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Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Thank you well, it is Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm

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Speaker 2: Brada Jay And for Dan, I want to thank Rob

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Speaker 2: to remember to thank executive producer of Nightside, Marita. She

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Speaker 2: It's all part of what makes Nightside so great. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Dan Ray is the man also when it comes to Nightside,

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Speaker 2: Hi Dan, if you're out there, I hope you're well.

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Speaker 1: All the best of you. Now we're revisiting the Halloween thing.

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Speaker 1: One thing I noticed it's interesting is.

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Speaker 2: Even though the stuff you buy for each holiday seems

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Speaker 2: to come really early, now it's kind of coming all

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Speaker 2: at once. In the stores you can see Hello stuff,

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Speaker 2: and in some stories you can even see Christmas decorations.

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Speaker 1: And at some point maybe you'll just get.

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Speaker 2: Decorations that are combo for all three so you don't

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Speaker 1: Right, And what would that.

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Speaker 2: Be like like a turkey a turkey skeleton tree? I

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Speaker 2: don't know, a turkey skeleton you put on the top

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, right.

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Speaker 2: Halloween, we have Jane and Shrewsbury talking about maybe a

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Speaker 2: favorite Halloween movie. And by the way, ISAs is Jaws

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Speaker 2: a horror movie or not? We haven't really that's kind

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Speaker 2: other experiences you might have had Halloween wise, including something

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Speaker 2: you know, any weird experiences when you go up to

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Speaker 2: somebody's house. And by the way, what is the age

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Speaker 2: for the cut off age for tricker trading?

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Speaker 1: When is it just creepy when you do?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: How old you have to be before it's creepy to

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Speaker 2: go trick or treating?

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Speaker 1: I guess is the way to phrase that question. Ten?

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Speaker 1: Eighth grade's too old?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Sixth grade? Maybe let's talk to Jane. Thanks, thanks for

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Speaker 2: being coming back Jane. And by the way, Wayne, you

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Speaker 1: Hi Jane.

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Speaker 4: Hello, You've talked on a bunch of topics tonight that

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Speaker 4: are interesting. And you just mentioned what I was going

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Speaker 4: to say about Halloween about what age?

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Speaker 1: Oh good? So what do you think?

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Speaker 4: Okay? I was kind of tall kid and I went

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Speaker 4: one of those houses someone said to me, aren't you

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Speaker 4: my friend was probably like a foot shorterer than me

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Speaker 4: or something. And that was the last year we went

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Speaker 4: trigg or treating, But we used to think of twelve

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Speaker 4: as kind of the last year. And now I understand

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Speaker 4: like high school kids go. And I've heard of older

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Speaker 1: Okay, so when you're what grade are you went at

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Speaker 2: Why did you go to the rich neighborhood You figured

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean just like guessing, like kind of

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Speaker 4: thinking there might be better. Yeah, and we were kind

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Speaker 1: Now, did you go with your parents? Are alone?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: No, just with a friend, just another twelve year old

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Speaker 2: Now, no parents would ever let their kids go alone anymore, right,

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Speaker 4: I think teenagers still go by themselves.

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Speaker 4: I told you before in reading. But when you asked,

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Speaker 4: was a David Bowie song. No, no, okay, I remember

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Speaker 2: So the first song ever played on WBC, and I

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Speaker 2: shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Fluid because it

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Speaker 2: That song was valid and fresh and as good as

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Speaker 2: intense after forty years, I think of twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: People cried. It was a big deal anyway, Jane, anything else.

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Speaker 4: So as far as David Boi goes, sorry, I thought

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Speaker 4: I think you. I do remember you saying about the

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Speaker 4: Pink Floyd song a long time ago. What albums of

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Speaker 4: David Bowie are the best ones for someone who's not

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Speaker 2: You know, I would go with a compilation called Changes

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Speaker 2: One Bowie. It's a good mix of accessible stuff. There's

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Speaker 4: You've been to the Netherlands, right, Yes. I once was

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Speaker 4: was a million bicycles way before you bikes and everything.

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Speaker 4: And he said, the bikes are number one, then the buses,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that you're hokeming back to the first

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Speaker 4: Sorry, that's all right. It was the travel thing.

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Speaker 1: It was travel, so yeah, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 4: And and did you see the traffic lights. They had

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, in my town of Brookline, they

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Speaker 2: for them, unless they were federally available, but no one

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Speaker 2: No one pays attention to them. There's a little red

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Speaker 1: Jane, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 3: Bradley, of course.

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Speaker 2: I we'll go to Gary in New Jersey, Hello, New

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Speaker 2: Jersey right after THISBS It's.

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Speaker 1: Night Side with the Dan, Boston's news Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right, It's Boston's news Radio. We have I don't know,

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Speaker 2: five minutes. It's sort of loose Lucy goosey. You're talking

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Speaker 1: Let's quickly go to Gary in New Jersey. Hello Gary.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Bradley, I still miss your show on midnight. It

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Speaker 5: was a great show, but you were talking about Halloween,

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Speaker 5: and I was never a trick or treader. I didn't

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Speaker 5: think the work was worth the reward.

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Speaker 1: But that's a good point.

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Speaker 5: I just didn't. But what we used to do is

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Speaker 5: I grew up in New York and there was a

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Speaker 5: guy on TV called Zachary and kind of like ghoulish, okay,

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Speaker 5: d And during the Halloween time he always played this

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Speaker 5: movie Hold That Ghost with Abbot and Costello, and it

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Speaker 5: it really was entertaining Hold that Ghost.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure the Three Stooges must have a Halloween

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Speaker 5: Right, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I have to talk to are expert on that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm definitely not. But I remember that he used

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Speaker 5: to have the show on. He had someone that was

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Speaker 5: like dead in a laundry basket, amper, that he talked

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Speaker 5: to and then shut it, and it was just a

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Speaker 5: great time. It was just a great time.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a ghost?

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Speaker 5: Never? Okay never?

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Speaker 1: By the way, what about an alien?

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Speaker 5: Never? The only way I believe in aliens if I

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Speaker 5: see one in the Walmart parking lot land.

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Speaker 2: Other than that, one final question, what is your state slogan?

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Speaker 1: You have a state slogan. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the garden.

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Speaker 1: Someday I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 5: That, right, There ain't many gardens left though. Well, where

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for checking in.

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Speaker 2: I gotta talk to John before the top, So thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. Like good to hear you too. Someday

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Speaker 2: I do the topic the dumbest state slogan garden State's fine,

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Speaker 2: got a quick, you know, a minute, John, what's going on.

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Speaker 2: I just want to get to you, Hey, hey, Ron, I.

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Speaker 3: Just want to give a shout out to your BCN

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Speaker 3: a happy birthday? And a couple of years they would

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Speaker 3: it was a great station.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, John, I appreciate it, so j brother. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I went to a ballgame and some very irritated happened.

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Speaker 1: They do things. They do this thing now with the

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Speaker 2: What are things that happen at certain events that ruin

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Speaker 2: et cetera. I'll tell you what bothered me about what

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Speaker 2: they do at ballgames, and that's after the sun Beaty