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Speaker 2: Speaking of giant ass, will this be the day that

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Speaker 2: Big Dumper wins the American League MVP. The announcement of

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Speaker 2: the American League of National League MVPs will be.

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Speaker 3: Announced within the hour.

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Speaker 2: We think we should know by five o'clock this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: so keep.

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Speaker 3: It right here.

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Speaker 2: As soon as we know, you'll know. On ninety three

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Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy my favorite quarterback of full participant in Vikings

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Speaker 5: practice today. He should get the start against the Bears,

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Speaker 5: and nick Eman Warri has been named NFL's Rookie of the.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know there was a Rookie of the

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Speaker 3: Week award until today? What else? College football? How about this?

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Speaker 2: Utah AD Mark Arlin is returning to the College Football

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Speaker 2: Playoffs Selection Committee. Arkansas AD Hunter Yaratchuk is the new

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Speaker 2: chairman after Baylor AD and selection chair Mac Rhodes decided

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Speaker 2: to take a leave of absence from both jobs for

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Speaker 5: Magic Star and former Odey standout Polo Bancaro joining the

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Speaker 5: ownership group for the Seattle Sea Wolves Major League Rugby.

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Speaker 3: France and the Kraken.

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Speaker 2: Tonight ninety three three KJRFM pregame six thirty face off

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock against the Winnipeg Jets. Did you mention the

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Speaker 2: Jet Patriot game tonight? By the way, Yeah, we got

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Speaker 2: the Jets on this station from New York, the Winnipeg Jets.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, No, we got the Jets from Winnipeg on

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Speaker 2: this station three to two to one. The Jets from

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Speaker 2: New York are on nine to fifty am the Jets.

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Speaker 2: See what happens when you're trying to get cute, Mike.

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Speaker 2: The Jets from Winnipeg are on ninety three to three

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Speaker 2: KJRFM against the Cracking All right, I'm gonna shut up

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Speaker 2: and get to Mike Honggran's open right now.

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Speaker 2: We gotta say we should get an extra pair of

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Speaker 2: headphones so Kathy can hear the radio show.

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Speaker 3: But you ever to care?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, he doesn't care. Wants to do her crossword puzzles

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Speaker 2: and be left alone. She she'd want to answer your question,

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Speaker 2: give some input. Absolutely, we can do that. She wants

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Speaker 2: two cents on any topics. She's more than welcome sports, entertainment, politics,

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Speaker 3: The medical world. She can do whatever she wants, but

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Speaker 3: it's great to see Kathy.

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Speaker 2: I just took a picture of you guys, by the way,

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Speaker 2: and I sent it to my wife, Gina, and her

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Speaker 4: By the way, What about.

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Speaker 3: Says you look okay? She looks phenomenal, is what she said.

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Speaker 2: Mike, Homgrin, Kathy home Grin with us here and again, Mike,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna know probably in the hour. We're we're hoping

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Speaker 2: by five o'clock if cal Rawley has won the American

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Speaker 2: League MVP. And I mean, you've been in situations like

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Speaker 2: this before with your players where they're waiting to get

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Speaker 2: honors when the season comes to an end. What is

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Speaker 4: Well, you're really pulling for him. First of all, you

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Speaker 4: Kick and I were telling you know is a catcher

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Speaker 4: first of all, bats both ways, and and just home

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Speaker 4: a couple of times Montana, you know, I have guys

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Speaker 5: And you have some control over whether guys win MVPs.

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Speaker 5: Baseball managers don't. They just throw guys out there and

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Speaker 5: they get their numbers. But you actually have control. You

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Speaker 5: helped Seawan Alexander right get the MVP award. How much

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Speaker 5: did that play into your thought process?

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Speaker 4: Well, during the season and during games, it doesn't play

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a special award, no question about it.

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Speaker 4: And think of it all the guys. Think of how

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Speaker 4: and so that's something special.

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Speaker 2: Well, some coaches have little bonus is in their contract

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Speaker 3: Did you ever forget a little bumped? Did you get

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Speaker 4: Huh? I should have?

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Speaker 4: I didn't. Absolutely I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you go back retroactively to the Hawks, go go

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Speaker 2: call Chuck Arnold.

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Speaker 3: Sidio's a million dollars.

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Speaker 4: The only the bonus, the bonus thing I got. The

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Speaker 4: if we won ten eleven games or something like that,

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Speaker 4: he kicked in with a good chunk of money. We're

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Speaker 4: playing the Steelers, okay and Green Bay, and they're down there,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna drive for the winning touchdown. They throw a corner,

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Speaker 4: Remember who it was? I forget who? But cow are

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Speaker 3: Wow? How about that happened?

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Speaker 4: So then, so then, but then I go up with

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Speaker 2: Well, Kathy may have been more excited about the bonus

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Speaker 3: God six that's why she knew the name of the players.

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Speaker 5: Good for you, it's incredible. We'll pull Kathy coach a

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Speaker 5: big one this week. You know, we've had coaches here

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Speaker 5: in the past. Pete Carroll says every game is a

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Speaker 5: Do you treat it at all differently when you're seven

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Speaker 4: You can say you don't, but you do?

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Speaker 5: You do?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the players know it. You might

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Speaker 4: talk to them a little bit. They know how important

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Speaker 4: it is. And I've told you guys before anytime when

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Speaker 4: I try not to be you try and say, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's an important game, but we have a lot of games.

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Speaker 4: But no, this is a big one and they know it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's a lot to talk about with this

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Speaker 2: game on Sunday. There's no doubt. But let me let

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Speaker 2: a second. Obviously, another slaughter by the Seahawks. Third time

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Speaker 2: this year they've really destroyed somebody. The second time in

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Speaker 2: a short week because the Commanders had that Monday night

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Speaker 2: Darnold's turnovers that he had. And I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: The first pick was at thirty eight to seven, fumble

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Speaker 4: It always bothers me when you turn It always bothered

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Speaker 4: kind of understand why it happened. But throwing interceptions, I

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Speaker 4: I don't think, Dave, get back to your score. I

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Speaker 2: You're not more apt to excuse it or not get

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Speaker 4: No, I would really no, okay, okay, And I tried

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Speaker 5: Well, a couple of his turnovers this year had been goofy.

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Speaker 5: I mean he had one off of Titans helmet. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's right, ripsack when Abe Lucas got brutalized by Nick

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Speaker 5: in the middle of the field. How much do you

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Speaker 5: like his kind of gun slinging mentality.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's working really well for them now. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but look at some of the some of the teams,

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Speaker 4: They're not very good and so, but give it to

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks credit. They established it, they went after him,

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Speaker 4: they destroyed them. But now this week mistakes like that. Sure,

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Speaker 4: you can't have it against I don't think against the team.

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Speaker 4: We're in a championship type game, you know. But it

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Speaker 4: doesn't worry me to honestly, I think he's having a

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Speaker 4: great year. Yeah, and he's he's doing you think the

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Speaker 4: other way. I used to, you know, brag on Gino

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Speaker 4: but we Donald's good and uh, he can fix a

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Speaker 4: Sure? On those four plays? Yeah for eighty r Right,

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Speaker 2: It just boggles my mind that he keeps doing this,

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Speaker 2: Let Tory Horton be the guy. Let's double team this guy.

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Speaker 2: Back of the five twenty, Bar and Grill and Mike

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Speaker 2: Homberan's here with us, and you were talking at least.

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Speaker 3: I think Kathy brought it up.

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Speaker 2: Reminded you that when Steve Young was in the finalist

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be something that would be unbelievable?

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Speaker 5: be well deserved.

436
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Speaker 3: Are you talking about the third Mariner ever that would

437
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Speaker 3: win the award? Each Row?

438
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 2: And oh one Griffy in nineteen ninety seven, So for

439
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: a generation of fans who are in their early thirties

440
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 2: or whatever it. They don't have any idea what a

441
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Speaker 2: guy like this winning the MVP is man. So I'm

442
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 2: excited for this. We're pulling for him big time. I

443
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 2: don't have any clue what's gonna happen. I kind of predicted,

444
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Speaker 2: I guess if that even means anything. In September, I

445
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 2: thought he was gonna win it, So I guess I'll

446
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Speaker 2: stick with that. Nothing can surprise anybody here. So we're

447
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: waiting on that. We're waiting on the MLB network. As

448
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 2: soon as we know, you will know who has won

449
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 2: the American League MVP. I will say this shocking developments

450
00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 2: stunner show. Hey TONI just won the MVP the American League,

451
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Speaker 2: his fourth MVP overall. He becomes I believe, the second

452
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Speaker 2: player ever to win an MVP in his first two

453
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Speaker 2: years with a new team after playing for somebody else.

454
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Speaker 2: Roger Marris came over from Kansas City to the Yankees

455
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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty and he won the MVP and again

456
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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty one.

457
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Speaker 3: So some rare air for show.

458
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Speaker 5: Hey O, Toddy, I did read though back in the

459
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Speaker 5: day that you could not win back to back MVPs

460
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Speaker 5: in your league. So Babe Ruth kind of got.

461
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Speaker 3: The correct Oh, that's exactly it.

462
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Speaker 5: So it's like some of these things that Showan is doing,

463
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Speaker 5: Babe Ruth didn't even have the opportunity today.

464
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Speaker 3: They only allowed him to win it one time back

465
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Speaker 3: in the day.

466
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Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, and then but then skip a year, then

467
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Speaker 4: he could win it the next year.

468
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Speaker 3: No, he just can only win it once once.

469
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Speaker 2: They actually changed that role, I think, like in the

470
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Speaker 2: late thirties when Babe was towards the end of his career.

471
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Speaker 2: But Dick's exactly right when they started the MVP process.

472
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Speaker 2: You can only win it one time, and so he

473
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Speaker 2: got robbed.

474
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Speaker 3: Let's state that role to make sure. Yeah, there you

475
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Speaker 3: go exactly exactly.

476
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Speaker 4: You guys, remember when when I was playing in college,

477
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 4: you play, don't think they could repeat if they won

478
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: the Big Ten Championship, went to the Road Bowl.

479
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Speaker 3: That's correct.

480
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 4: The next year, that's correct, they couldn't go again they won.

481
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Speaker 2: Remember that used to be a tiebreaker if you're a

482
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Speaker 2: tiebreaker in the last time ten, whoever went last was

483
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: the team that got screwed?

484
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what kind of nonsense is that?

485
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Speaker 2: Well, Mike Congrin's with us and uh, Mike, let's uh,

486
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Speaker 2: let's talk about this game again coming up on Sunday

487
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Speaker 2: as we wait for this official announcement from the MLB network.

488
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm like, uh, God, who's the guy I

489
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 2: just said his name the other day? The guy with

490
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Speaker 2: the eyes that was in the Monty Python movies way

491
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Speaker 2: back in the day. You know, the guy I'm talking

492
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: about with the big eyes. You know the actor. Somebody

493
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Speaker 2: knows who I'm talking about. I've said his name on

494
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Speaker 2: the show a million times, and I forgot who was

495
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Speaker 2: Marty Feldman.

496
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

497
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Speaker 2: I'm like Marty Feldman. I got one eye on Mike.

498
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Speaker 2: I got one eye on the TV over here. So

499
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Speaker 2: we're waiting to see you. Oh there he is, Yeah,

500
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: there he is right there. They're actually interviewing Judge and

501
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Speaker 2: Cal as we speak. But this game on Sunday, right,

502
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Speaker 2: you said it's gonna come down to who has a

503
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: better game at quarterback?

504
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 4: I think so.

505
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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean.

506
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Speaker 2: It sounds like kind of a cop ount to say

507
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: something like that, because it's the most important position in sports.

508
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 3: But there's a reason why you believe like that. For

509
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: this game. Why is that?

510
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, because so far those are the guys that

511
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: are carrying their team this to this point. Okay, and

512
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 4: you know Donold is just establishing himself here. Stafford has

513
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 4: already there. Uh Now, now that's not to say that

514
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 4: we don't have you know, Walker's good. They have a

515
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 4: good running back for the Rams. The defenses are good,

516
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 4: the teams are good. But I think you know, in

517
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 4: referencing your turnover stuff, right, that stat, that one stat

518
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 4: could be the determining factor in the game.

519
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Speaker 5: Well, coach, they're running this three tight end set. Now

520
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 5: that they ran only one snap of the first five

521
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 5: games of the season, the last three games of the season,

522
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 5: they've done it forty of all snaps. Right, Have you

523
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Speaker 5: ever shifted your offensive philosophy and your formations that drastically

524
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Speaker 5: over the in the middle of the season.

525
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Speaker 4: No, The only time, the only other time I can

526
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Speaker 4: remember doing that was in Seattle and we played the

527
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 4: Giants and I went most of the game with four

528
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 4: wide receivers and no one we had never done that,

529
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: and that and that that was good for us, that

530
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 4: that worked. But no, typically, no, you don't cheat change.

531
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Speaker 4: That's a draft, You're that's a drastic change. Yeah, what's

532
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 4: happened there, and.

533
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Speaker 5: It's working it. Stefford's got eight touchdown passes out of

534
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Speaker 5: that set in the last three games.

535
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Speaker 2: Well, he's also got seventeen touchdowns in one pick when

536
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Speaker 2: he's blitzed at a passer rating of one hundred and

537
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Speaker 2: twenty seven and the completion percentage of sixty seven percent.

538
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Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about great quarterbacks against

539
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Speaker 2: the blitz and why they're great against the blitz?

540
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Speaker 4: Well, because, okay, a couple of things. One, they know

541
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Speaker 4: their protections and they know where the problem is most

542
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Speaker 4: of the time. How many times have we seen in

543
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Speaker 4: the last few weeks that some guy come clean as

544
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Speaker 4: a whistle. It happened last week against Arizona linebackers come clean, right.

545
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 4: That doesn't Well, that won't happen too much with the

546
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: Rams because he'll he'll set up the protection and they'll

547
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 4: do that. It helps with the offensive line. Then he

548
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 4: knows that's the problem, that's my hot throw and I'm

549
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 4: not gonna take the sack right right, And that comes

550
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: with experience, it comes with trust, all that kind.

551
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Speaker 2: Of Yeah, guys, let's do this. I think we are

552
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: literally minutes away. I got a feeling that MLB network

553
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: is going to take a break here in just a second.

554
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Speaker 2: Andrews back in the studio. Let's got to break right now,

555
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Speaker 2: and if it happens during the break, we will break

556
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Speaker 2: in live. We'll cut off whatever client's paying millions of

557
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: dollars to advertise on the station, and we will give

558
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: you the MVP. Will it be Aaron Judge or will

559
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: it be Cal Rowley? Keep it right here, the announcement

560
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Speaker 2: coming in literal seconds right here on ninety three three

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Speaker 2: KJRFM from.

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Speaker 1: The R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back

563
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Speaker 1: to SOFTI and Dick on your home for the Huskies,

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Speaker 1: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three four three.

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Speaker 4: kJ r F.

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Speaker 3: Same plan we had before.

567
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Speaker 2: All right, I assume this is on the air, by

568
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Speaker 2: the way, when I hear from Anders out of there

569
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Speaker 2: you go. All right, Well, we are here at the

570
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: five forty Bar and Grill, Mike Homgrin with us and

571
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: a little bit distracted right now because we are awaiting

572
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Speaker 2: the announcement of the American League MVP show. Heyotani has

573
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: already won the National League MVP, fourth MVP overall for him,

574
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Speaker 2: so no surprise there. But I don't know, man, I mean,

575
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Speaker 2: this is the anticipations killing me.

576
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Speaker 4: I can tell you. I'm surprised. Yes, I cared that much.

577
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Speaker 2: Hey, No, it's not because I had a win ticket

578
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Speaker 2: place back in April and.

579
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Speaker 3: I'm winning the m v P on one hundred dollars.

580
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Speaker 3: I'm kidding. If that was the case, I'd be flipping out.

581
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Speaker 2: First of all, that was the case, I would have

582
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 2: had it, you'd be done already.

583
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Speaker 3: What were the original ots like plus ten.

584
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Speaker 5: Thousands now beginning to begin year?

585
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: Because Anders and I He'll tell you, right, Anders, we

586
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: jumped on Julio to win the NBAP.

587
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: We got the wrong guy to five.

588
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it must have been one hundred to one.

589
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: Easy beginning easy to win the MVP.

590
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Speaker 2: I mean this is gonna be one of the biggest

591
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: long shots at the start of the year.

592
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Speaker 3: Yes, don't you think to win the ever had.

593
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Speaker 5: More than thirty home runs in a season like cal

594
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Speaker 5: Rawly was thought of at the beginning of this year.

595
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 5: It's maybe not even the best hitter on his team,

596
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 5: let alone the best hitter in the league.

597
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Speaker 4: Right, well, it's buying a lottery ticket though, Yeah, you know,

598
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Speaker 4: I mean because the odds. Unbelievable. What what he did

599
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: this season, that's right, is unbelievable. Right, you know?

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Speaker 6: Right?

601
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Speaker 2: Did I ever tell you about my ticket I had

602
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: on your five Seahawks team, every telling you about that

603
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: start of the year. I put one hundred dollars on

604
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl at thirty to

605
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: one odds. Wow, if you would have beat the Steelers,

606
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Speaker 2: I would have taken home three thousand dollars, which back

607
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: in two thousand and five was a lot of money

608
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Speaker 2: for a little schmuck like me. It's there was a

609
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: lot of money. What I should have done is I

610
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: should have hedged it. I should have bet fifteen hundred

611
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: on Cower just in case he won, and that way

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Speaker 2: I would have turned one hundred bucks into at least

613
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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred.

614
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Speaker 3: But I didn't. I thought we were gonna win, and

615
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 3: I kept it and I rolled with you. So you

616
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: won me three thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you brought up that Super Bowl. It's yeah,

618
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Speaker 4: really nice of you to.

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Speaker 5: Change the subject a little bit on.

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Speaker 4: Roy. Can we there Goah?

621
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Speaker 5: I tell you I saw something that I've never seen

622
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Speaker 5: before in the NFL this week and I'll explain to

623
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 5: you if you if you didn't see it. So end

624
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 5: of the first half, it's Patriots and Bucks, and the

625
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 5: Patriots are at the two yard line. The Bucks don't

626
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Speaker 5: have any timeouts left, all right. Mike Vrabel on first

627
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: down purposely has his quarterback just go down and not

628
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 5: try to score, and wasts it down to get the

629
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Speaker 5: clock all the way down so he could run second, third,

630
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Speaker 5: and eventually fourth down, and got the touchdown on fourth

631
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Speaker 5: down with like five seconds left to go in the

632
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Speaker 5: first half. My question, you would you ever purposely in

633
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Speaker 5: a situation like that not try to score.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I think because they got it on fourth down.

635
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: They got it on fourth down. I went all the

636
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Speaker 4: way to fourth Oh yeah, no, you know, you get

637
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 4: down there. It's hard to get down there, you know,

638
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: get in, get in the end zone, and I'll deal

639
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 4: with the other twenty seconds somehow, some way, yeah, you know.

640
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

641
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: Oh, Or how much time was left.

642
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Speaker 5: When he started to do it. There was like a

643
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 5: minute fifteen, okay, and he just milked it down to forty,

644
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 5: and then he milked it down to twenty, and then

645
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 5: he milked it down to five, and then they scored

646
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Speaker 5: the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of the coaching matchup Sunday, because

648
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: I think that's the battle is McDonald versus Sean McVeigh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you get two young guys who are smart their

650
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Speaker 4: team there. I'm very impressed. I have been with Sean,

651
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 4: talked to him a little bit right and but Mike, uh,

652
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Speaker 4: you know, and talked to him before the season started

653
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Speaker 4: for a while. They've got their teams going. They they

654
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: in a different with a different emphasis. You know, one's

655
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 4: on offensive guy, one's a defensive guy. But as head coaches, yes,

656
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 4: they both call the defen they call the offense. So

657
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 4: they're still doing that right instead of kicking it to somebody.

658
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 5: And Softie mentioned this week about kind of the defense

659
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 5: maybe in a matchup like this having the advantage over

660
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 5: the offensive coaches that now that might be blasphemy to you,

661
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 5: the offensive coach.

662
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: Not for you though for others, but not for you.

663
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: But I mean, what would your would you rather have

664
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 5: the offensive guru to match up like this is the

665
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 5: defensive guru?

666
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: You know what? I think? I think I'm not sure

667
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: that will enter into it too much. Honestly, It's like

668
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: I have a plan, he has a plan. How your

669
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 4: players handle the blitz, how they handle out? The quarterbacks

670
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: handle pressure? Uh? Can you get to the quarterback? Does

671
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: the running game play a big part? And for either team,

672
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: like you said, three tight end offense, you know, and

673
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 4: their their back's pretty good. Yeah for the Rams.

674
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: Well, what is it about McVeigh because he's not even forty,

675
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: he's forty in January and he's in his ninth year

676
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: already in the NFL. He was thirty one, Yeah when

677
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: he got hired with the Rams. So I think you

678
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: knew his dad, right, Sew mcfay's dad, Yeah, correct know

679
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: his grandfather, grandfather.

680
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: Sorry, what is it about Sean McVeigh?

681
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: This is the guy that is Dick said your day

682
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: was maybe gonna quit a couple of years ago and

683
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: just retire. I thought when Stafford went, he'd go to

684
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: and I thought Stafford was done a couple of years ago,

685
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: when I was wrong. But what is it about this kid?

686
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: He's still a kid. He's thirteen younger than me. That

687
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: is so unbelievable.

688
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, he's you watch him on the sideline. Yeah,

689
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 4: and he and he you know, not just because he

690
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 4: has more hair than me, but he has spiked up

691
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: and run. He's running around and he is he's wired

692
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: that way. He is really intense. He wishes he could

693
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: be playing. And so you couple that with how smart

694
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: he is, and you know, he comes from a great,

695
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: great pedigree of football, and the players, his players love him.

696
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: They play for him, you know. And I don't think

697
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: you can understate that. I think that's really they listened

698
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: to him, you know, and and I you know, he's

699
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 4: an impressive guy and I've really fun to talk to.

700
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 4: I interviewed him at the Super Bowl. Oh yeah, yeah,

701
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: and kind of a humble guy, you know, for all

702
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: his accomplished My agent is his agent. Okay, you know,

703
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 4: so I should I should phone him and yeah, Borrows

704
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 4: and Andy too. Reed, he's got them all. I should

705
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: phone him and get a little money from him.

706
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 5: Well, and then coach, there's this third team in the

707
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 5: division that still thinks they're competing for the division championship

708
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 5: and the Niners, and it looks like they're going back

709
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 5: to brock Purty after mac Jones went five and three.

710
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 5: Very similar numbers. If you look at Max's numbers compared

711
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 5: to Dak Mayfield Mahomes, they're all about the same over

712
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 5: the last eight games. I mean, is it just a

713
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 5: no brainer to go back to who your starter was

714
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 5: because brock Perty wouldn't five and three in his last

715
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 5: eight games that he coch that he pitched.

716
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, they he signed that big contract

717
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: in the offseason, so they told him you're the guy,

718
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: and we hope you're the guy for a long time.

719
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: And now he's healthy again, surprisingly they put him back in. Now.

720
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: Jones did a really good job, I think, coupled with

721
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: what they do to Shanhan smart and he knows how

722
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 4: to coach quarterbacks. But they've been hurt. They're kind of hurt.

723
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: So I put them just a notch below the Hawks

724
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: right now and the Rams.

725
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: Well, Mike Home grins with us, and I will tell

726
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: you that the MLB network just went to a commercial break,

727
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: so we are awaiting the announcement of the American League MVP.

728
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm sitting over here, I'm sweating, my heart's palpitating.

729
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: My foot pressures through the roof.

730
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: Well, I just I'm more concerned about us actually being

731
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: on the air when it happens. I don't want to

732
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: blow it right. I want to make sure we're on

733
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: the air and get the announcements. So we're not gonna

734
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: go anywhere. We're gonna keep it right here. There'll be

735
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: no commercial breaks, not at my watch, not up in

736
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: here until we find out if the MVP is going

737
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: to col But we are literally seconds away, guys, from

738
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: finding out if Cayl Rowley has beaten thereon judge for

739
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: the American League MVP. But Mike, let me ask you this.

740
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 2: We mentioned Stafford against the Blitz. Darnold against the Blitz,

741
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: by the way, is not very good. He's got four touchdowns,

742
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: four picks, sixty one point three percent.

743
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: Uh ninety three passer rating, which is not terrible.

744
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: But if not one hundred and twenty six with no Blitz,

745
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: he's got a passer rating of one hundred and twenty eight.

746
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: So does McVeigh see that, talk to his defensive coordinators

747
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: and say the numbers say he's not good against the Blitz,

748
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: go after him.

749
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

750
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: Is it that easy?

751
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 6: Yeah?

752
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: Noell, it's that's gonna be a big part of their plan.

753
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: Then if because you know, you get to we have

754
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: talked about this before, you get the little analytics people

755
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 4: in the upper room with the glasses.

756
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: You know, wait, you got glasses.

757
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: See yeah, but minor not the dark rims around.

758
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

759
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 5: He does not beat little eyes.

760
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 4: So but they they give feed all the information and

761
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: that's part of your preparation. Yeah, and they know that

762
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 4: and so and then the Rams, I think they have

763
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 4: pretty good pass rush tendencies.

764
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 5: Coach, they're doing something this year that you used to

765
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 5: be really good at, scoring touchdowns on the first drive

766
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: of the game. They did it zero times under Ryan

767
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 5: Grubb last year, not once. They've done it four times

768
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 5: already this season. What are you seeing in their opening

769
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 5: drives that are impressing you?

770
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: Well, I think they which I hope they would do.

771
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: They come out passing the ball a little bit more

772
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 4: in the opening drive, play action, pass, getting first downs,

773
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: getting short you know, second and two, you know, and

774
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: allows them to sustain the drive and h no, I

775
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 4: think you know what, look at I learned. I did that.

776
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: I copied Bill Walsh my first fifteen and all that, right.

777
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: Mike Shanahan followed me in San Francisco. He did the

778
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 4: same thing. Okay, Gary Kubiak worked for Mike. He did

779
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 4: the same thing. Now his son is doing the same

780
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: thing right now. So it's just something that I think

781
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 4: is really good thing to do in your preparation. Yeah.

782
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 4: Billy always said takes the emotion out of it for you,

783
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: you know.

784
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, guys, I got some bad news.

785
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 4: Oh she was.

786
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge has won the American League MVP. Just came down,

787
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: just announced on the MLB network. I was really really

788
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: hoping to be able to go on the air and

789
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: scream out that cal Raley has won the American League MVP.

790
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: But Aaron Judge at home surrounded by family and friends,

791
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge getting seventeen first place votes, KYL Raley getting

792
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: thirteen first close votes, thirteen second for Aaron Judge, seventeen

793
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: second for cal Rally.

794
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 3: So they basically just flipped right.

795
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge beats out cal Rawley in a very very

796
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: close vote. Aaron Judge, guys, is your twenty twenty five

797
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: American League MVP.

798
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 5: Well two voters difference, And I thought we may have

799
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: an opportunity to have a tie MVP. They have had

800
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 5: that before, but it's been a long long time. You

801
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 5: could have had a tie. But you know, like I

802
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 5: said yesterday, I'm I'm not gonna change my take. If

803
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 5: you think Aaron Judge should have been the MVP. You're

804
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 5: right if you think if you think cal Rawley should

805
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 5: have been the MVP, you're also right. Unfortunately, there were

806
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: two deserving MVP candidates in the American League this season.

807
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 5: Unfortunately for Cal, it just happened to be.

808
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: That year for Well, here's the thing, and we said

809
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: this yesterday on the air that I wasn't gonna lose

810
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: my mind if cal Rawley did not win the MVP.

811
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: And I'm not going to. I'm just disappointed, right, you know.

812
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: I mean, you're a fan, you love these guys. I'm

813
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: disappointed for Cal. I think he deserved it. I think

814
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: he's earned it. I think he's a phenomenal leader.

815
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: My moment with Cal was two years ago when he

816
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: basically called out the ownership group for not making the

817
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: team good enough to make the playoffs. And that was

818
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: a guy that was still kind of green right in

819
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: this league, and Scott Servis actually called him out, told

820
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: him to control his emotions. And I know you're a

821
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: fan of Scott because of his packer ties and all that,

822
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: but that's the day that I kind of was a

823
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: little bit down on Scott. I could not believe that

824
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: his manager would come out and not have his back

825
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: for showing that kind of emotion, especially for a former catcher.

826
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: But I mean, look, guys, Aaron Judge had an OPS

827
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: two hundred points higher than cal Raley did. He had

828
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: a batting average eighty four points higher than cal Raley did,

829
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: and he had what is it, thirty five extra hits

830
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: in seven less games than cal Riley. He is a

831
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: much better all around hitter than Cal. I thought there'd

832
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: be a little bit of Yankee fatigue. I thought the

833
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: defense would maybe put him over the top, and it

834
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: didn't happen.

835
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: So I'm not I'm not angry about it. I'm not

836
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: shocked by this at all.

837
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm just bummed for cal because he's a great guy

838
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: and I hope he does have a chance to win

839
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: one down the road.

840
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: Well, to what Dick said, it's a two votes, right,

841
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: and when it's close, when it's close, it even hurts

842
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 4: a little more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he he almost

843
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 4: got it.

844
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, looks like the games that you lost, the big

845
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: games they get lost that were tight.

846
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: Would you rather just got your ass kipt yea honestly?

847
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 4: Sometimes, yeah, those are the ones you lose, the tight ones.

848
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's unfortunate though, is that Cal hit sixty home

849
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 5: runs and didn't win it. Right to a guy that's

850
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 5: probably going to do what he did this year again

851
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 5: next year, because that's how good Aaron judges. This, in

852
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 5: my opinion, was Cal shot.

853
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: This was his will it take? If this isn't enough,

854
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: what will it take?

855
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 5: It will take close to that, and then Judge and

856
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: the rest of the league comes down to earth. You

857
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 5: had an elite err in Judge this year. If you

858
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 5: just had a good errand Judge, Cal would have won it.

859
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: Hey, good stuff, Thanks for Baron with all right, no, no,

860
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: no direct I apologize for that. Yeah, can you bring

861
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: her buy more often?

862
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 6: By the way, I will she classes the place up,

863
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 6: you know, I'll ask her, Yeah, come buy more office.

864
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 4: She needs I need a chauffeur.

865
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: She needs to drive it absolutely and bring some food

866
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: home with you for God's sakes.

867
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: From the five twenty bar and grill.

868
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: All right, great stuff and we're talking a week right,

869
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: but all right, Mike Hongrin with us again, breaking news.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Judge has won the American League MVP Cal Riley

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Speaker 2: finishing seconds. We're gonna break a lot more to come,

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Speaker 2: including David Samson. Good night to have him on, he'll

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Speaker 2: tell us if the voter's made the right choice at

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Speaker 2: five point twenty tonight on ninety three three KJRFM,