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Speaker 1: of football today. Oregon and Texas Tech meeting in the

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Speaker 1: Orange Bowl as we speak. Starting at four o'clock here

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Speaker 1: on the Big One, we will have number nine Alabama

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Speaker 1: and then immediately after that we'll be carrying the Sugar

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Speaker 1: Bowl between Old Miss and Georgia. Of course, one team

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Speaker 1: has already punched their ticket to the college football semi Final,

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Speaker 1: the Miami Hurricanes, with an absolutely dominating performance against the

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Speaker 1: Ohio State Buckeyes last night. That game was not as

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Speaker 1: We will get your college football fix after the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the hour news when Keegan nickoson a Bearcat journal

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Speaker 1: dot Com joins me here, we'll get you ready for

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Speaker 1: the games tonight and for the monumental showdown between UC

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Speaker 1: bring in Jeff Carr from the Lockdown Reds podcast and

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds on SI, because I I honestly, I just

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Speaker 1: don't know how many chances I'll get to speak to

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Speaker 2: And you may be thinking, well, wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: Rick, there's not a whole lot going on with the

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Speaker 1: That's my concern, Jeff, welcome back into the big one.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year. Hopefully you're feeling good. You didn't overdo it.

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Speaker 3: Last night, Rick, Happy New Year. Yeah. No, I was

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Speaker 3: kind of like keeping one eye on the buck Eys

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I have no bet that uh that game.

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't want to spend a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: time talking about what could have been with this team,

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Speaker 1: But for a brief, shining moment, this club had the

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Speaker 1: sweepstakes with a strong offer, but ultimately they came up

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Speaker 1: this just seemed like the right time to make a major,

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Speaker 3: Right? And that's where everybody's so frustrated with I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's not from Cincinnati. But he did

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Speaker 2: Instead of you.

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Speaker 1: Know, trading for someone who could be an everyday starter

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Speaker 3: You know, for one Sprick, I'm going to give Nick

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Speaker 3: Had he said that, I think we'd be printing t

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, Okay, good, they're not done. And reportedly

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Speaker 1: The name that keeps getting thrown out there for the

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Speaker 1: So, Jeff, well, hopefully we'll have time to talk again

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Speaker 1: excellent work? As always, sir, hey, you.

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Speaker 3: Can always follow the Lockdown Reds podcast everywhere you get

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Speaker 3: your podcast, including the iHeartRadio app. You can also follow

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Speaker 3: me on social media at Jeff Carr with three fs

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Speaker 3: on Twitter and TikTok. Can you flipped that username around

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Jeff, I have a good one, man, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Rick, appreciate you too, man. Happy New Year. You can

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Speaker 1: Kegan nickoson Bearcat Journal dot com. Getting ready for the

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Speaker 1: Liberty Bowl tomorrow plus the games tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ricky Chino. What's I have? One hundred w WELWLD.

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Speaker 1: How we will take you out to Pasadena. We're number

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Speaker 4: by people, like they can't afford the best quarterbacks on

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Speaker 4: the market. One thing that I've kind of realized is

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Speaker 4: it's kind of a two year process for Cincinnati to

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Speaker 4: build a really competitive football team. You have to put

436
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Speaker 4: together the pieces in one year and then you have

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Speaker 4: to convince them to come back and take that kind

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Speaker 4: of hometown.

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Speaker 3: Hey, come back.

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Speaker 4: To the team discount like they did after the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four season, Like Joe Royer could have made more

442
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Speaker 4: money somewhere else, Brinton Towardsby, Dante Corleon, Jake Golde, some

443
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Speaker 4: offensive linemen, they all could have made more money somewhere else,

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Speaker 4: but they were bought into what.

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Speaker 3: You See was doing.

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Speaker 4: They were bought into their assistant coaches and the Scott

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Speaker 4: dadderfield and the culture that was being built, and they

448
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Speaker 4: came back and tried to build something. And that's why

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Speaker 4: the end of the season in twenty twenty five is

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Speaker 4: so disappointing because the odds that you're going to do

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Speaker 4: that and feld a more competitive team in twenty twenty

452
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Speaker 4: six is very low, just giving the landscape of everything,

453
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Speaker 4: so they can do it, but the pressure on talent

454
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Speaker 4: evaluation and hitting on the portal guys is so much

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Speaker 4: higher than it is at other schools where they have

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Speaker 4: that Martina bear because they can pay their roster twenty

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Speaker 4: five thirty million dollars. U See just doesn't have that.

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Speaker 4: So you have to convince people to come back and

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Speaker 4: really develop them within your program. It's not going to

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Speaker 4: be you build a Day ten or a Big twelve

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Speaker 4: championship level team in one year of the portal. It's

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Speaker 4: going to be a multi year process.

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Speaker 1: Well, the transfer portal window does open tomorrow. What are

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Speaker 1: you expecting the plan to be for UC here? Where

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Speaker 1: should they be looking to add to bolster the roster quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you know, being the obvious need first and foremost.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when they.

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Speaker 4: Got Brendan Sorosby, they got them quickly after the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three season. So I would expect them to be

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Speaker 4: very aggressive after a quarterback and try to get that

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Speaker 4: one out of the way early and then you can

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Speaker 4: knock out everything else because no other position really matters

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Speaker 4: on the team if you don't have a good quarterback

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Speaker 4: and if you miss on quarterbacks. So look for them

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Speaker 4: to be really aggressive at quarterback. And then you've got

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Speaker 4: to look at the defensive backfield, safety and corners specifically,

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Speaker 4: which is the entire defensive backfield no present. Yeah, they've

478
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Speaker 4: missed on corners multiple times on safetyes, so they've got

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Speaker 4: to fill a lot of holes of guys who left

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Speaker 4: and they haven't really had success in the guys that

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Speaker 4: have been here a ton. And then you've got to

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Speaker 4: look at the defensive line as well. You're not gonna

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Speaker 4: get You're not gonna have a defensive line who's gonna

484
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Speaker 4: get like a ton of sacks and lead the Big

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Speaker 4: Twelve in that statistical category. Just because of the nature

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Speaker 4: of the scheme with the three down lineman but again,

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Speaker 4: you lost doctor Troleon and Jalen Hunt and Micah Coleman,

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Speaker 4: So you're gonna have to replace a lot of veteran guys.

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Speaker 4: Mark west Parker's guy who's gonna come back and he's

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Speaker 4: gonna have success, But you've got to backfill some of

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Speaker 4: the other deaths, and that's in that room too.

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Speaker 1: Ricky Chino in for Eddie and Rocky here on seven

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Speaker 1: which gets underway at four o'clock. Kegan Nikos and Bearcat

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Speaker 1: Journal dot Com joins me here for a few more minutes.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about what we saw last night,

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Speaker 1: Julian saying did not look comfortable for much of that

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Speaker 1: game for the buck guys, especially after Ohio State went

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Speaker 1: down by two scores against Miami. Then I'm watching that

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Speaker 1: final drive for the Hurricanes when OSU had to get

501
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Speaker 1: a stop, Miami bullied them in the run game capped

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Speaker 1: off that drive with a game winning touchdown. Were you

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Speaker 1: surprised how badly Ohio State got bullied in the trenches

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to say yeah, because it's Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's one of the most talented rosters in

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Speaker 4: the entire country. But if I'm going to look at

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Speaker 4: another program that's going to have justice Gonna athletes, it's

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Speaker 4: a blue blood program out of Florida like Miami. So

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Speaker 4: I in a way, I'm not just because I don't

511
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Speaker 4: think the talent level and athleticism level is that different.

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Speaker 4: But I just think the twenty five days off is

513
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Speaker 4: really inhibiting these teams a lot, and it's making me

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Speaker 4: nervous to watch my Hoosiers here in a little bit

515
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Speaker 4: and how they're going to play against Alabama. Miami just

516
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Speaker 4: looked more season and more ready and more comfortable, and

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Speaker 4: then they kind of much o higher state in the face.

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Speaker 4: He has a big pick six pick six with Julians Saan,

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Speaker 4: But like you said, they controlled the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 4: especially on offense, and then you've got one of the

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Speaker 4: best pass rushers in the country and Ruben Bain also,

522
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Speaker 4: I think he pulled down a couple of sacks. So

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Speaker 4: in big spots, Miami really delivered. And it's a shame

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Speaker 4: to see Ohio State loose. I still don't think a

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Speaker 4: team that's gotten up bye has won a CFP game.

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Speaker 1: What are your Hoosiers need to do against Alabama today

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Speaker 1: to win?

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Speaker 4: Holy Craft controlled the line of scrimmage and run the

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Speaker 4: football because it's raining for the first time in like

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Speaker 4: ten decades in Pasadena, So like whoever was playing on

531
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Speaker 4: coming into this game and airing it out, it doesn't

532
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Speaker 4: look like it's gonna work. But I mean, fortunately for

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Speaker 4: both teams, it looks like the forecast has been out

534
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Speaker 4: there for a week or a week and a half,

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Speaker 4: so it's kind of known, so they can prepare. But

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Speaker 4: if Indiana can run over Ohio State, then I'm pretty

537
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Speaker 4: confident be able to do that against Alabama. So look

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Speaker 4: for room in Indy, a couple couple touchdowns, then Frenanda

539
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Speaker 4: Mendoza makes it just one or two big throws to

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Speaker 4: extend drives and for explosive plays, and I'm gonna say

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Speaker 4: Indiana wins seventeen.

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Speaker 1: To ten with the Buckeyes now out, you know, trying

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Speaker 1: to put bias aside, Do you think Indiana is the

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Speaker 1: favorite right now to win the national Championship?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think that they're the team that's shown that

547
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: they can win every game in different types of games.

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Speaker 4: They've gone up against good defenses, They've gone up against

549
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Speaker 4: good defensive on the road, They've had comeback drives. I

550
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Speaker 4: think that they're definitely the favorite. Some of some of

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Speaker 4: the other teams just have too many flaws and too

552
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Speaker 4: many kind of exposedble aspects of their team. And you

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Speaker 4: look at this Indiana team and I don't really see

554
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Speaker 4: a lot of flalls all over the place. Like the

555
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Speaker 4: defense is really good. They got the first round d

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Speaker 4: d Indiangelo Mons, and then you got a Heisman and

557
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Speaker 4: potential first overall pick and random Mendoza. You've got three

558
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Speaker 4: really really good wide receivers. So I think Indiana is

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Speaker 4: definitely the favorite. And I think they're gonna showtaint Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully.

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Speaker 4: I'm not eating my hat after this radio interview.

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Speaker 1: Real quick, how competitive are we anticipating the UC Bearcat

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Speaker 1: basketball team to be against Houston on Saturday?

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I have I thought I was going

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Speaker 4: to escape this phone call without talking about this. I've

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Speaker 4: learned because Wes Miller's O and nine against Houston in

567
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Speaker 4: his career at you see, and this is the he's

568
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Speaker 4: been due for us five years. This is the worst

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Speaker 4: his team has looked. I just don't I don't see

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Speaker 4: a path. I think that they're gonna be more physical

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Speaker 4: down low. I think that Houston's gonna out rebound them.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna outshoot them. They've got a manual sharp and

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Speaker 4: Kingston flaming like they have really good players on both

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Speaker 4: offense and defense. I just really really don't see a

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Speaker 4: path unless like current Creasa makes eight threes and giggle

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Speaker 4: games that doesn't miss the shot. Other than that, like

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Speaker 4: Houston is just going to control this game like they

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Speaker 4: have in large part for most of the games where

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Speaker 4: they played against Snati.

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Speaker 1: It does seem like U see does play up to

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Speaker 1: the level of competition this year and down to it.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. I'll try to stay optimistic for you.

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Speaker 1: Of course, people can read all about it Bearcat Journal.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure absolutely take you over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see.

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