1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go right back to the phone lines. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: But first, ha Wednesday seven twenty. You know what that means, 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Truth or troll. Take it away, Mike. 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: And now America's favorite game show where you get to 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: decide on the Kooner report. 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: This is truth or Tall. 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: Today's entry for truth control comes from President Trump, who 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: was speaking with reporters outside of Air Force One the 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: other day when he was asked who will control the 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: straight of hor Mooz once the Iran conflict is over? 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: The second Moore moves, who's gonna be in? 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: Controller would be opened very soon? 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 4: If this works, and. 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: To be able to control the ball. 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: Be jointly control? 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 5: Maybe me? Maybe me? 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: I mean take me and the Ayahtola whoever the I 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: tell that is whoever the next dietell. 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: So there it is Trump and the Iyatola is now 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: working together to run the Strait of Hormuz. 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: So is he telling the truth? 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 4: There? 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: Is that what actually is gonna happen? Or is he 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: just poking fun at Iran? 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: Well, it's very funny the way he says it, Me 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: and the Ayatola. But I mean according to the to 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: the fifteen point plan, and what the Administration is telling everybody, 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: and the Iranians they're actually, I mean, it's not going 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: to be technically Trump and the Ayatola, but it's going 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: to be joint control US Iranian joint control of the 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz. So it's funny, and you know, you 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: may on the one end it kind of looks like 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: he's trolling, but I'm just going by what the Administration 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: is saying. They're like, yeah, you patrol one side, we 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: patrolled the other side. And so it's truth, Mike, if 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: you can believe it, it's truth. It'll be the United 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: States and Iran, not technically him in the Ayatola, but 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: they'll be working together to keep the Strait of Hormuz 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: free and open mic. So if I was voting, I'd 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: say truth. But I want to ask you, the great audience, 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: is this a troll or b truth? When Trump says 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: he and the Ayatola, I e. The United States and 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: Iran will jointly control the Strait of Hormuz. You can 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: vote on our web page wrko dot com slash cooner 45 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: wrko dot com slash cooner kuh and is in national Er. 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: You can also vote via x my handle there all 47 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: one word at the Kooner report. At the Kooner Report, kuh. 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: N e r. 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Now, I gotta say this from the Mulla's point of view, 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: had no say in the Strait of Hormoz before the war. Now, 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: according to all these press reports, they are now demanding 52 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: that all ships handover lists of their crew, of their cargo, 53 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: of their license that do they have the right to 54 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: even go, you know, have a ship, and they're now 55 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: inspecting everything. They're already acting like they're basically, you know, 56 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: in control or semi in control of the Strait of Hormose. 57 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: So ironically, one of the consequences of the war is 58 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: it's given the Mullahs Tehran more power, more control, more 59 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: influence over the Strait of Hormose, which is the most 60 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: vital oil natural gas shipping lane in the world. Now, 61 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: Trump says we're going to counterbalance that We're going to 62 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: be there as well, and the two of us will 63 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: be controlling it jointly. But that's that's another reason why frankly, 64 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm not happy with this deal. But anyway, that's me 65 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Jim in New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Jim, and welcome 66 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Hello Jeff. 67 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: Hi Jim Hight. So I just want to focus on 68 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: two things here. Where are we now and where does 69 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: this go? So with the deal, listen, I would love. 70 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 6: Any deal that that kind of shuts us down now. 71 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: And move on to bigger and better things for our country. 72 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: But I realistically we're dealing with two things. We're dealing 73 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 4: with what we want for deal and what I Ran 74 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: wants for deal. Now, I've heard what we want and 75 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: you've listened. 76 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 6: You know in detail. 77 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 4: The problem is what I Ran wants for deal. So 78 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: they want reparations. They want they want all the bases, 79 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: r US bases out of the Gulf. They want to 80 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 4: control horror moves with attacks, and they're not. 81 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 6: Gonna get much. 82 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: They're gonna give some nuclea contessions or whatever. So there's 83 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: a real big divide there what they want we want 84 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 4: and the reason that is and if you look at 85 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: the at what is involved in both sides, because they. 86 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 6: Feel like they are they have the cards. Now, obviously 87 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 6: we've been we've taken out the Navy, a big. 88 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 4: Chuck of the military, but they still have the things 89 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: that matter most to them. 90 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 6: They have their. 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: Support and more than that, they have these missiles and 92 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: everything else still headed. They have thousands of drones. They 93 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 4: still can affect hermus. They still are affecting Hermus. They 94 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: can open it up and closer to us, they can 95 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: open it up closer to China, and they're letting other 96 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 4: people through. It's not completely closed. They are letting you know, 97 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: people that they want through, and they're making money off 98 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 4: of that, so they're not broke. 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 6: So that's where are now. 100 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: So I think, unfortunately we're dealing with that and I 101 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 4: don't think, you know, the deally even that we're proposing, 102 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: they would accept. And where do we go from here? 103 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 6: Now? 104 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: I think what this is gonna lead to is ground troops. 105 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 4: There is a reason we see all these troops in 106 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: the region. There's a reason we saw. 107 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 6: All the ships leave are part of the country. 108 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Venezuela and go to Middle East. We saw it, we 109 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: felt it, and I feel like that's where we're going. 110 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 6: That's a real unfortunate thing because again, what that leads 111 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 6: to is not good things. 112 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: I don't see ground who's really making. 113 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 6: A giant effect except American lives being lots. 114 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 4: And then comes the real leverage we have in Israel 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 4: have has, which is nuclear. 116 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 6: And that's that's what. 117 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I feel like this could really go So what 118 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 4: do we do? So the question is what do we 119 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 4: do when we look at what they're apt Jim. 120 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: Do me a favor. I'm up against the break. Please 121 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: hang on. I'm gonna come right back to you. Jim 122 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: is worried that this thing could escalate and spiral even 123 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: more out of control. Okay, we're gonna go back to 124 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: Jim in New Hampshire. But first, listen up, my friends. 125 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: If you want the best way to hear the Kooner 126 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: Report every day, it is simple, the iHeartRadio app. It's free, 127 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: it's easy, and it lets you take the show with 128 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: you wherever you go. 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The regime has survived, 146 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: They're still in a strong position, and oil prices are 147 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: going up and up and up, putting pressure on the 148 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: global economy, putting pressure on our economy, politically, putting pressure 149 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: on Trump. You believe now Trump is sending in a 150 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: lot of ground troops into the area. He may actually 151 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: go and try to take carg Island and other strategic islands, 152 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: which will just escalate the war. But you believe not 153 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: fundamentally resolve the war, and you fear this may end 154 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: up with a tactical nuclear strike by either the United 155 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: States or Israel. Please pick up where you left off, Yeah, Jeff. 156 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 4: This is definitely a pivotal moment. I think if there's 157 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 4: ever a chance for a deal, and it probably would 158 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: be a bad deal for US, unfortunately, and I don't 159 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: want that. But I think the alternative would be ground troops, 160 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 4: which I don't think would pan out too well. 161 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 6: And I do you know, I think we have enough 162 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 6: dukes out there, and I don't. 163 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: I mean, possibly one good you get shut off is 164 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: not far from that possibility, and I don't think we 165 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 4: do it. I think Israel would be more likely. They 166 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 4: feel more of an existential threat. 167 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 6: I think, you know. 168 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: But so the thing is this, so we don't have 169 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 4: a deal. 170 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 6: We're miles of parport two of what they want. 171 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: And what we want. So we got to look at 172 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: what they want, want to try to do something and 173 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: try to work on something now and again they want reparations. 174 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 6: It was me, I was, this is what I do. 175 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 6: Then Trump doesn't have to look bad on this. I mean, 176 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 6: if you ask me, it wasn't. 177 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he's a comander in chief, of course 178 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: he'll take claim. But there's a lot of forces behind him. 179 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: Number one being military industrial complex, number two being people 180 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: like Lindsay Graham, the Warhawks, and number three being an 181 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: Israel lobby, which I think has been wanting this for 182 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: a long time. 183 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 6: Now. 184 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: I'm not saying, you know, well, Lil Linda Grin, I 185 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 4: would run to the bus. I don't think he's good. 186 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 6: For this government. 187 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 4: I think he's bad for Mega. I think military and 188 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 4: jostue competency to be taken down a notch. I think 189 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: pretty much everyone's agreed on that for a long time 190 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 4: in Israel. Yeah, we just either maybe look at our 191 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: relationship a little differently, still support them if we want, 192 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: we can support them in this. 193 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 6: We just need to set. 194 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 4: Out ground troops there or even behind anything that could 195 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 4: remotely look like a nucleus strike. So I think that 196 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: would be one step to maybe de escalate this and 197 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: maybe it's a win for US and maybe Iran would 198 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 4: it would give them a concession which would tone this down, 199 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: because again we get three players in this, wee of US. 200 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: I ran in Israel. I think Trump does want out. 201 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 4: I think he thought this would have gone this way. 202 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: I think Israel still wants this. I think it works 203 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: in their behavior, in their favor. 204 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 6: And I think I ran field thing. 205 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: They're holding a lot of cards, and you know, but 206 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: we're still the United States of America. We still have 207 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 4: a lot of power, but let's use it and maybe 208 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: try to change the narrative. What if we said, oh, 209 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: you know what, that first day we blew up a school. 210 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: You know, we care about the area of people, and 211 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 4: we rebuild that. Let's build a couple of schools. 212 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 6: All right, if we did that, just admit one fault. 213 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: I'm not saying, you know, yeah, we took on the military. 214 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 6: That's great. 215 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: We did the navy, that's great. But let's say we 216 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: did that, and you know what the people of our 217 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: ran would think, like, oh wow, look at this the narrative. 218 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: It might change. We care about that. Little things might 219 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: go a long way, and that's not gonna hurt us. 220 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 4: I mean, who doesn't want a school blown up? I mean, 221 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 4: I don't care who those kids were, but. 222 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 6: I mean the kids. 223 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: So if we it just little things we can do, 224 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 4: that would might work. But to go in hard or 225 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 4: demanding things that aren't going to I mean this deal 226 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: that we put, they're not accept it. 227 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, what they want again, and we're. 228 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: Not gonna said what they want. So I'm like, I'm saying, 229 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 4: let's try to work between those lines. 230 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: Well, Jim, Jim, I hear you know you've made your point. 231 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: I think very clear. If Iran doesn't take this deal, 232 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: I think it guarantees more war. I think there's no question. 233 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: And I think you're spot on when you say that's 234 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: why the eighty second Airborne is being deployed as we speak. 235 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: They're going to be there in two to three days. 236 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: The Marines that thirty it's actually it's two units now, 237 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: the thirty first Expeditionary Unit and the eleventh Expeditionary Unit. 238 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: They will be arriving Friday, which is the deadline that 239 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: Trump gave them. Unless you know, either you give me 240 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: a deal or I'm going to start bombing power plants 241 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: and the electric grid. So I don't think that's an accident. 242 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: So who knows. Then I think Trump may make a 243 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: move on carg Island. He may even land on some 244 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: of these coastal areas in the Strait of Horn Moose, 245 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: and he may then order the US Navy. It's going 246 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: to take a couple of weeks. It's high risk, but 247 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: he's going to say, forget it. We're going to clear 248 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: the Strait of Horn Moose once and for all. So 249 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: we'll see. So This thing could end this weekend, or 250 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: we're looking at another two three weeks of the war. 251 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: We shall see. But look, you're right, the Mullas may say, no, 252 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: your price is too high, and we think we're in 253 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: a stronger position and we want more concessions. Trump will 254 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: never agree to reparations. I know what you're saying. Build 255 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: a couple schools, show some goodwill, but Trump's not going 256 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: to give them reparations. The American people will not stand 257 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: for it, and his base and frankly Republicans won't stand 258 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: for it. So I think you're right. I think Trump 259 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: wants to get out. I think he wants to get out. 260 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: That's why he's declared victory. And we'll see if there 261 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: are some Mayatolas or some Mullahs who say, you know, 262 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to see my entire 263 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: country bombed to the stone age. So that's the incentive 264 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: for the Iranians, is that the bombing stops, the destruction stops, 265 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: the constant, you know, the degradation of their military and 266 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: their regime stops. So we shall see. I agree with you. 267 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: This is the pivotal week. There's no question. This is it. 268 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: The next couple days will define the war and the 269 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: direction of the region and in some ways the world. Jim, 270 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: thank you very very much for that call. Okay, very 271 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: very quickly, Dave, our Western PA constitutionalist correspondent in Pittsburgh, 272 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: messaged me saying he agrees with russ not the previous 273 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: caller before Jim, that ultimately he wants regime change. He 274 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: wants to see US arm an internal opposition within Iran. However, 275 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: he believes it's not Trump's fault. The Iranian people are 276 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: ultimately to blame. They had their chance to rise up 277 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: and they didn't. And so now Trump is making the 278 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: best of the situation because ultimately the Iranian people let 279 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: him and let us down. You have others now that 280 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: are texting the Kooner man. This is from six one seven. Jeff, 281 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: I voted for Trump three times. I trusted him on 282 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: this war. I expected a quick victory. What is now 283 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: obvious is that the war has not gone the way 284 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: he and Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio said it would. 285 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: This has not been a quick victory. This is now 286 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: turning into a quagmire. Trump is looking to get out 287 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: and I support him. So there you go. Agree disagree 288 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: six one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight. 289 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: Jeff in Quincy. Thanks for holding, Jeff, and welcome. 290 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: How are we doing today. I'm kind of confused. At 291 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: the beginning of the week, you were saying you didn't 292 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: want well, three weeks ago, you were saying you didn't 293 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: want the war, no regime change. Now you're on the 294 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: side of regime change. You told us specifically that the 295 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: Mullas had more support in the western districts and the 296 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: more rural areas. Do you want to fight an insurgency war? 297 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if we Jeff, can you hang on. I'm 298 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: going to come right back to you. I'm up against 299 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: a break. Okay. President Trump now said the war has 300 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: now been won. He has declared victory, and now he 301 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: has sent Iran a fifteen point plan which if they 302 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: accept or at least the framework that he will, then 303 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: the war is over. They will sit have a peace summit. 304 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: He will probably negotiate with Iran's leader of the parliament 305 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: in Iran, and the regime will remained in pact. This 306 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: is essentially the deal, and economic sanctions will be lifted. 307 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Iran will have joint control with the United States of 308 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormouse. But Iran will have to give 309 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: up its nuclear ambitions completely. It will have no nukes, 310 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: no weapons, no nuclear weapons, no enrichment. They will no 311 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: longer be able to be a state sponsor of terrorism 312 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: or fun proxies anywhere around the region, and so essentially 313 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: Iran will be neutralized and defanged. My question to you, 314 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: are you happy with this outcome? Is this the outcome 315 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: you wanted? Is it a good deal or a bad deal. 316 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: Let's go back to Jeff and Quinsy, who seems to 317 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: be mad at me. I don't know what I did 318 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: to Jeff, but anyway, Okay, Jeff, please pick up where 319 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: you left off. You said I've been all over the 320 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: map and that I want an insurgency or to fight 321 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: an insurgency in Iran. So please Jeff pick up where 322 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: you left off. 323 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, No, you misunderstood me. I said, what do 324 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: you want an insurgency? I didn't say you want it. 325 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: I don't think any wants anyone wants another insurgency war. 326 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: The problem is these people blend off into the sunset 327 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: with no uniforms on, and we don't know who they're killing, 328 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden people wind up dead 329 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: and they say, oh, these were mothers and fathers of whatever. 330 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 3: But it's okay for Biden to bomb a family attend 331 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: getting water. But that's beside the point. So the bottom 332 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: line is is you are totally not in favor of 333 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: any of this, and now you want to continue this war, 334 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: which granted, don't get me wrong, the mullets can't be trusted, 335 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: but we don't even know who's in charge. 336 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 4: Over there anymore. 337 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: The president of the United States, who gets the best 338 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: information in the world, has no idea who he's talking to. 339 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 3: Do you think the Sun's still alive? My answer to 340 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 3: that is hell, no, he's never been seen and he 341 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: was in the same house that he got bombed in. 342 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 3: The only way I see out of this is to 343 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: cut a deal at this point and then hope again. 344 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: Trump's playing these people to get them off their butts 345 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: in Iran, to get them to take that country back. 346 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: And it's funny that the peace talks are being held 347 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: in Pakistan, which is where you would have to smuggle 348 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 3: weapons into these people to get them armed. 349 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: Well, Jeff, I mean, if I'm giving the impression that 350 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: I want regime like I want Trump to continue fighting 351 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: the war for regime change. Then I misspoke. I was 352 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: against the war because I knew it was going to 353 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: lead to a mess. I just I had a feeling. 354 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: I said, No, I've been down this road before. It's 355 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: not going to end the way we think it's going 356 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: to end. And it looks like it. We shall see. 357 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: The war's not over. The Ranians are stupid. They may 358 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: reject this deal and it could end up much worse 359 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: for them, So we'll see. But no, my point is 360 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 1: just this, not that I'm for regime change. I mean, 361 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: of course I'd like to see the Mullas go, but 362 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not for a war for regime change. 363 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: What my point was just this is that Trump was 364 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: the one who laid down the benchmark. I mean, you 365 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: would agree, Jeff. He came out and said, our goal 366 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: is unconditional surrender. Our goal is regime change and the 367 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: overthrow of the Mullas well. Now by setting expectations so high, 368 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: and that was one of the things I said. I said, 369 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't think you should do that now. Anything less 370 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: than that seems like a defeat. And I think this 371 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: is how even many of the people who supported the 372 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: war are starting to look at this furthermore by calling 373 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: to lift the sanctions on Iran, They're going to be 374 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: flush with cash. You see. My position was keep the 375 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: boot on the neck of Iran, maximum economic pressure, maximum 376 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: diplomatic pressure. I supported the bombing last year. I said, 377 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: take out their nuclear program, wipe it out, which apparently 378 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: we did. According to Ratcliffe and Tulsa Gabbert, they testified 379 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: under oath and they said that the nuclear program was 380 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: obliterated and they couldn't reconstitute their enrichment program for at 381 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: least the next couple of years. So my point was 382 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: contain the mola's, keep maximum pressure and eventually give time 383 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: for the internal opposition to rise against the Ayatolahs with 384 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: our help. Now that we went to war, okay, we're 385 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: at war, and my question is are you happy with 386 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: this deal? Now you may disagree, Jeff, You may say 387 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: this is the best that we can get. But I 388 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: want to ask you, in all honesty, does this deal 389 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: strike you as the kind of deal that you get 390 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: after you've won a war. I'm just going by the 391 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: President's words. He said, we've won. This is victory. It's 392 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: over now. The Mayatolas are still in power. I'm just 393 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: stating the facts. The sanctions now if they accept, will 394 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: be lifted, and they're going to have joint control of 395 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormouse. Now, maybe Trump as a long 396 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: term plan, I hope he does to support the internal opposition, 397 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: maybe arm them clandestine. We'll see. But if you just 398 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: go buy what's on paper, the Mullas survive the sanctions 399 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: are lifted, which means they're going to be you know, 400 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean swimming in oil money so they can rebuild 401 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: and rearm, and they've got more influence over the Strait 402 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: of Horror moves, which is so important than they did before. 403 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a great deal, and Jeff 404 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: am I wrong. 405 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: Well, you're assuming the Malas is still in charge. We 406 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: don't know who we're talking to over there. And if 407 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: the Mullas were still in Shoge, they were talking tough 408 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: until about three days ago, two three days ago when 409 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: they told us that they weren't having a conversation with 410 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, which turns out they actually weren't having a 411 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: conversation with Donald Trump, as the media smash Donald Trump 412 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: for it as a matter of fact. So I'm thinking 413 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 3: that if the Mullas was still in shodge. There's no 414 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: way they would make this deal. And I think Donald 415 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: Trump knows that, and he wants the people to rise 416 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: up and they better head best get off their butts, 417 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: because I'll tell you right now, the American people aren't 418 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: gonna stand for thirteen more dead soldiers. And if this 419 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: is the best deal he can get right now and 420 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: get back to domestic affairs and get gas back down, 421 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: the American people are gonna be happy. And we're not 422 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 3: sending the UN in to monitor this nuclear situation like 423 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: we did before, because we know how useful sayah, we're 424 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: sending the Americans in. We're gonna go in and we 425 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: can be trusted unless Democrats get back in power. And 426 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 3: if they do, I'm sure Donald Trump will have the 427 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: framework to not allowed to not to allow this to happen, 428 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: and by then the Democrats will just turned their tune 429 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: and say they hate a Ran anyway again, or try 430 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: to fund them so that they get a bomb. So 431 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 3: in the end, I think it's the best deal you're 432 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 3: probably gonna get in order to get people over in 433 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 3: Iran to take their country back, And I think that's 434 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 3: what it's all about. He's buying time, and I wouldn't 435 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: be a bit surprised if weapons were already moving in 436 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: through Pakistan to on these people. 437 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: We'll see, Jeff, I mean, hopefully he does have a 438 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: long term plan. We'll see. Jeff. Let me ask you, 439 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: because this is going to be the Cooner country pole 440 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: question of the day. So as someone who supported the war, Jeff, 441 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, I mean, as in you 442 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: supporting the war now that we see maybe the endgame, 443 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: we'll see and the fifteen point plan? Was the Iran 444 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: conflict worth it? In your view? After everything is said 445 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: and done, was the war worth it? Yes? Or no? 446 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: The answer would be yes. We just saw an intercontinental 447 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: ballistic missile reach. 448 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: The reach eup, So. 449 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: In essence, if they had a nuclear bomb and put 450 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 3: it on the top of that, Europe would be in. 451 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 5: A mushroom cloud. 452 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: So I guess in the end, yes, it was worth 453 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: it one hundred percent. And if we can get in 454 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: there and make sure that these people don't abuse their people, 455 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: and I'm sure that's gonna happen. Donald Trump is not 456 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: one to watch people be tortured, and that's why we're 457 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: in there in the first place, because they killed thirty 458 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 3: five thousand protesters. Everyone doubts Donald Trump. They don't give 459 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: him the benefit of the doubt. Name me one thing 460 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: he's been wrong about. 461 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: You're asking me, is it rhetorical or are you asking me? 462 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm asking you. 463 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: Oh, the Epstein files one hundred. 464 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: Percent wrong about that. You're right, but again that's you know, 465 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: the Apartment of Justice. 466 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: Jean, Jeff, I mean, but it's his Department of Justice. 467 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he appointed Pam BONDI you know, I mean, Jeff, 468 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, look, he's a great president, there's 469 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: no question. But I mean he is human, Jeff, the 470 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: man is you know, yeah, like everybody, they're you know, 471 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: people are flawed. They make mistakes. Great men make great decisions, 472 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: but they also can have, you know, make great mistakes. 473 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: Lincoln was a great president. He made some great mistakes. Reagan, 474 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: who I adore, he signed amnesty. I mean, I'm sorry, 475 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: I love guy, but I thought that was a big 476 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: mistake of his presidency. So, Jeff, all I'm saying is 477 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: it's not that I don't trust Trump. I just think 478 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: on this one, I would not have gone into war. 479 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: You are my honest opinion, if I'm to answer the 480 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: pole question, I'd say no, I don't think it's worth it. 481 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: But look, that's that's what I love about this show, Jeff. 482 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: We can agree to disagree, and look, in the end, 483 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: you and I are on the same side because we 484 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: both want Trump to win and we know in the 485 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: midterms he has to win. So on that we agree. 486 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: My friend, Jeff, thank you so much for that call. Okay, 487 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: so let me since I teased it, let me ask 488 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: all of you. It is the Kooner Country Pole Question 489 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: of the Day sponsored by Marios Marios Quality Roofing, siding 490 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: and Windows. Now that we see the potential end game again, 491 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: the Iranians have not accepted. Look, I'll be honest, has 492 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: had half a brain. I take this deal, all right. 493 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: Your country's being bombed to rubble. You're losing and losing 494 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: and losing and losing. I mean to take the deal. 495 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you stay in power, the sanctions are lifted, 496 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: and you get joint control of the Strait of Hormouse 497 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: and you get to rebuild potentially you know, down the road. 498 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: So I mean, I know there's going to be strict 499 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: restrictions and limits, and we're gonna have strong monitoring of Iran, 500 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: so it's going to take a while for them to 501 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: break out of the box. You know, basically they have 502 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: to wait for the Democrats to come back. But you're 503 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: an idiot if you don't take this deal, because I 504 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: don't see it getting better for Iran if this war continues. 505 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: I think the reason why Trump wants to end it 506 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: now is because he's looking at gas energy, oil prices, 507 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: and you know, he's under political pressure because of the midterms, 508 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: and because the way the Iranians fired those bliss stick 509 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: missiles damaging the oil infrastructure of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait 510 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: and Qatar. It's going to take a while to fix 511 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: that and get production up. So you know, his people 512 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: are telling him, look, even if the war ends now, 513 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: prices are still going to stay high for at least 514 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: a couple months. So you know, that's Susie Wiles's argument. 515 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: You know, she's yelling and screaming gas prices, gas prices, 516 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: gas prices. So Trump is like, hey, look, a couple 517 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: of months takes us into the summer into the fall. 518 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: That's too close for my liking. So that's why I 519 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: forget it. He wants to end it now politically and 520 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: I think Jeff does have a clear point. He's looking 521 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: at it and saying, if the Iranian people don't rise up, 522 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: my options are limited, and you know, let me let 523 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: me end this now, and ultimately we'll try to help 524 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: them clandestine and see if they can rise up. If 525 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: they don't rise up, the Mulla stay in power. But anyway, look, 526 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to digress. Is the Iran conflict or 527 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: the Iran war worth it now that we see the 528 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: potential endgame? A? Yes, B no. You can vote on 529 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: our web page WRKO dot com slash cooner WRKO dot 530 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: com slash cooner. Kuh And is a national er. 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Thanks for holding, Paul and welcome. 536 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: Hey, thank you, Jeff, longtime listener called you a few times. 537 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 5: I have to echo your last caller Jeff said, and 538 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 5: you know, the one thing that I heard a couple 539 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 5: of times this morning, and I think maybe even you 540 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 5: said it was you know, it's it's the people it's 541 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 5: the people's fault because they haven't risen up yet. You know, 542 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 5: this all depends the real victory, all depends on the people, 543 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 5: the Iranian people rising up and toppling the regime coming out. 544 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 5: But nobody's talked about how they don't have any arms. 545 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: They can't do it. I mean, forty thousand of them 546 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 5: were murdered in a because there's thugs out there, the 547 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 5: Iranian egene, thugs with machine guns that shoot them when 548 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 5: they go out in the street. And you know, it's 549 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 5: a real conundrum. I mean, I support the war because 550 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 5: I truly believe that they were on the road to 551 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 5: nuclear having a nuclear weapon, and I just can't, you know, 552 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 5: I feel I have a really good friend from Iran. 553 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 5: He came here ten years ago. He just got his 554 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 5: PhD in engineering at the University of Texas. He's still 555 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 5: got family there, and he was before the war started. 556 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 5: He said, you know, Trump drew a red line, he 557 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 5: drew a line in the sand and told you know, 558 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 5: they said he was going to help the Iranian people. 559 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 5: And he's been saying this since the nineteen eighties. He's 560 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 5: been against the Iranian regime since since the told Iatolas 561 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 5: took over, and you know, I love President Trump, and 562 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 5: I'm really I don't I don't know what. I don't 563 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 5: know where I am on this right now, because I 564 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 5: am very disappointed that that they're you know, that it 565 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 5: looks like we're going to abandon the Iranians who are 566 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 5: basically locked inside their homes and apartments because they can't 567 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 5: they don't have they don't have any weapons, they can't 568 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 5: get out. I mean, they have nothing. I mean, think 569 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 5: about if we if it was us, if you know, 570 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 5: if we were trying to overthrow a tyrannical regime, which 571 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 5: very well may come to pass, if if if the 572 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 5: Democrats get back in control. But we're armed, right and 573 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 5: we have a Second Amendment here To. 574 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: Take the words out of my mouth, Paul, God blessed 575 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. I mean, this is a classic example 576 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: of why I'm such a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment. 577 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: You know, I understand, it's handguns and AR fifteen's and rifles, 578 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter. It's it's you can wage guerrilla 579 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: war if need be. You can wage guerrilla war with that. 580 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: You can pick them off, you can kill them, you 581 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: can fight back. The Iranian people are completely unarmed and 582 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: Paul look, reports are coming out over the last three 583 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: weeks the savages the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, by the way, 584 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: and it looks like it's the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps 585 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: that are running. That's running Iran now. So it's becoming 586 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: how do I say this, You know, even if the 587 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: Iatolis son survived, we don't know if he's alive or not. 588 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: It's the IRGC. They control the Sun no matter what. 589 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: But so he's just a puppet. But it's now a 590 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: military police state. That's what Iran has now become. And 591 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: the hardliners in the IRGC have now consolidated power within 592 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: the regime and they're sending their thugs out onto the streets, 593 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: not just in Tehran but in other cities and anybody 594 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: they suspect to be a dissenter, a supporter of the 595 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: United States, a critic of the regime. They're killing them. 596 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: They're not even arresting them, they're just shooting them. So 597 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: there's a bloodbath going on now. We just don't know 598 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: how many thousands have been killed. So this thing is going, 599 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's getting worse and worse, I think, frankly, 600 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: that's another reason why Trump wants to end the war 601 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: because he's getting intelligence reports that are saying these savages 602 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: are murder their own people in the midst of this fighting. 603 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: And my fear is the repercussions after the war. That's 604 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: the other thing. That's why leaving the regime intact. Look, 605 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: I was against the war. I want to be clear, 606 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: but you know, you know the expression if you you know, 607 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: you go for the head of the king, you kill 608 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: the king, you don't wound the king, because once the 609 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: king is wounded, the more desperate the king is, the 610 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: more violent the king becomes. So my fear is now 611 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: that they're going to lash out at everybody who they 612 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: suspect supported the bombing of Iran, and I think it 613 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: could be a bloodbath. And what are we going to 614 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: do at that point, Because we've signed essentially a treaty 615 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: with them, that's you know, they're going to hold up 616 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: their end. I mean, they're going to have to under pressure. So, Okay, 617 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: they give up their nukes, which is great, Their ballistic 618 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: missiles will be limited, great, they don't find terrorists in 619 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: the region, great, so no one rich. Great, that's all 620 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: very good. But they hang on, they stay in power, 621 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: and the sanctions are now lifted, and you know, the 622 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: joint control of the Strait of Hormuse. So it's you know, 623 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: it's That's what I mean when I said, look, I 624 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: think we can get a better deal. That's all I'm saying. 625 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: I think we can get a better deal. But that's me. 626 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe Trump knows better. I don't know. 627 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: We'll see, but I'm thinking you're giving the Iranians a 628 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: lot the sanctions alone. That's a lot lifting the sanctions. See, 629 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: even if you want to keep them in power, okay, 630 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: but you put the sanctions, They're going to get hundreds 631 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: of billions of dollars in oil revenue over the next 632 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: couple of years. They're going to sell all that freaking 633 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: oil on the world market. I'm just it's a fact. 634 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even an opinion. And all that 635 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: money pouring in now, a lot of it going to 636 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: go to rebuilding Iran because we smashed so much of it. 637 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: But still they can rebuild and eventually they can rearm. 638 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: And Trump is not going to be in power forever. 639 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: You know. 640 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we have to look down the road. 641 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: We saw what Obama did in Iraq. He snatched defeat 642 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: from the jaws of victory. Iran was passive, sorry, Iraq 643 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: was pacified. These the terrorists that were bombing us were defeated. 644 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: And then Obama comes to power and he pulls all 645 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: our troops out and Iran gets you know, Iraq gets 646 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: destroyed into a thousand pieces. So what I'm saying is, yeah, 647 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: Trump will keep him in a box that I'm confident of. 648 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: I'm not confident what comes after him, and we have 649 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: to look, you know, we have to look at that. 650 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: That's why I'd like the sanctions not to be lifted. 651 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: Keep the boot on their throat. Paul, thank you very 652 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: very much for that call. I really appreciate it. Agree disagree. 653 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 1: Six one seven two six, six, sixty eight sixty eight 654 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: is the number. Okay. This is from Marianne in Florida, 655 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: and it sums up the feeling of many, many listeners 656 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: of Kooner Country, not all, but many. Jeff, this deal 657 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: is not about trusting or not trusting President Trump. It 658 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: has to do with negotiating with terrorists. You can't negotiate 659 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: with terrorists because they lie. We could put together the 660 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: best deal in the entire world and at some point 661 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: they're going to go against it, even if they sign 662 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: it one hundred times. We have allies we have to 663 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: worry about and take care of. And do you really 664 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: think they're going to rebuild meaning Iran using their own money. 665 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: I'm skeptical because I believe we're going to end up 666 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: having to rebuild Iran because we were the ones that 667 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: bomb them. I just see that coming down the pike, 668 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: especially if we lose in twenty twenty eight and the 669 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: Democrat bleeding hearts get in, and that's more and more 670 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: of our money going where it doesn't need to go, 671 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: just like so much of our money went to Ukraine. 672 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just can't get behind this deal.