WEBVTT - 10-7-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.200 In AMers County. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.160 It's phony here on seven hundred WLW ready to rock 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:08.000 and roll this morning. I'm not quite sure what's going 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.319 on with her behind the scenes stuff. Hold on just 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.320 a second, I have a guest on the show here. Momentarily, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.520 I'm just gonna do this. Oh wow, all right, So 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.279 trying to get hold of Alisha reached she was going 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.200 to jump in this morning and talk about the fifty 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.920 million dollar property tax relief incentive. Number one issue for 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.600 every man and woman, I would save to say in 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.720 Hamlin County, Butler County, Warren County, pretty much in the 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:38.839 state is the issue of property taxes. I had yesterday 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.360 on the show, Bill Sites, who was a co chair 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.320 of the working group the governor put together. They came 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:45.199 up with like a twenty point plan, and a lot 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.239 of it makes you kind of your eyes glaze over. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.120 It's just numbers and terms that we don't easily understand. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.800 You know, we start talking about. Bottom line is if 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.920 you're lucky, maybe you saw a twenty percent increase, but 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.480 some people have seen two hundred, three hundred percent increases. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.680 Now for the average person, it's an extra I don't 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.800 like eleven bucks, twelve bucks a month. In some cases 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.040 you're like, Okay, no big deal. If you're a senior 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.440 and you're pinching pennies, a little more difficult there. But 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.520 the big problem, of course, is when you start to 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.480 see some folks who are getting hit literally with hundreds 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.039 and hundreds of dollars more, that's a different story entirely. 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.880 Alicia Reese, Hamlin County Commissioner, on the show on seven 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:23.800 hundred WLW welcome back. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.440 How you been, Hey, great? How are you love? 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:27.960 I'm doing what? 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.040 Oh, it's good to be back. It's good to be here. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:34.120 Limping along. I saw the Butler County. A bunch of 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.240 counties are doing stuff right. Butler County is doing a 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.880 fifty million dollar property tax relief initiative. As I said, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.040 number one issue for voters right now is that. A 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.000 bunch of other counties too, I know that like Franklin 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.280 County and others are doing things to try and relieve 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.560 some of the burden. You saw this and it was 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.440 almost what a year ago, I think a year ago, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.920 next month, this coming month, when you guys said, you 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.680 know what, you're finally going to get that property tax rollback. 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.880 We've guaranteed when we built an new stadiums a couple 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.680 of several decades ago. Now, so the end result is 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.360 you look at Butler County said, well, why aren't we 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:06.720 doing that? 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.600 Well, absolutely, thron you know, I've been on this issue. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.280 You've been on this issue. I've been on this show. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.120 We've been dealing with this when I first got elected 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:22.080 almost five years ago, and we kept saying, probably taxes, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.919 it's the number one issue. That's what we said. And 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.079 so one of the things that we've tried to do, 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:31.160 of course short term things. One was I said, hey, 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.640 we're talked about affordable housing. That's great, but we've got 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.040 to also make sure that the people can afford to 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.160 keep the house they already have. And so I said, 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.240 we're going to take some of this money to help 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.399 stop gap that because we've got these new appraisals coming through. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.600 So we put six million dollars to try to help 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.799 people get through and hoping that the state legislature would 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.880 get this solved. Then the next thing I did, I said, well, 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.600 wait a minute, I gave my state of the county 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.320 and I said, hey, governor, let's free the taxes on 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.840 senior citizens, particularly until the legislature gets this done. It's 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.880 good to put a committee together, but I've been at 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.720 the state House and I know what happens with those committees. 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.440 They go back and forth, back and forth. In the meantime, 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.040 your property tax is going up and you're trying to 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.920 hang on to your house. And we had almost one 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.000 hundred homeowners come down to the county one of the 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.680 county meetings regarding this issue. I said, they need help 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.520 right now, so I have them and freeze of property 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.720 taxes on that. The other thing that we did was, 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.840 you know, the thirty percent that was promised to voters 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.280 so many years ago with the stadium deals. That was 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.040 never kept. And in the four years I had been there, 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.280 I was able to get it passed two of those years. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.400 And I've been on your show and certainly some of 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.240 your listeners helped us to achieve that as well. But 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.760 in the new Bengal deal lease, which is what I 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.160 had the big problem with, we wouldn't be were we 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.320 got rid of the thirty percent. You can't do thirty percent. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.280 I even asked the administrator and he said, no, there'll 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.400 be no money in here for the taxpayers to get 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.320 a thirty percent break. Even though that's what was promised, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.080 and that's why I didn't go with the deal. I said, 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.200 the taxpayers are written out of the deal. I can't 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:15.040 go with it. But now we're seeing a law was 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:19.000 passed where it allows us at the local level to 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.640 double the homestead. Now we would have to pay for it, 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.800 you know, every county would have to pay for it. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.040 So Butler County stepped up and I talked to one 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.400 of the commissioners there because I had some interest in it. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.839 They stepped up and said, Hey, we're gonna do fifty 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.080 million dollars. We're going to double this homestead and we're 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.760 going to do it with our own money until the 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.240 state gets it together. I then introduced the motion just 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.320 last week when I saw that, and I said, mister 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:51.040 Administrator Jeffaluto, who we're putting our budget together for you know, 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.800 we do one year budget, so we're putting the budget 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.680 together now. He had never mentioned it at first, and 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.840 so I introduced the motion in the meeting saying, I 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.599 want this looked into immediately. And I can't even because 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.039 each of us turn in our budgets. I can't turn 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.880 in a budget. If I didn't know that we could 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.400 do this because I now want to look at this right. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.920 So we would have turned in our budgets and had 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.440 no idea we could do this. I said, hold on, 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.880 I need to know about this and come. And then 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.279 I asked him, I said, well, why did Butler County 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.680 move so quick? He said, oh, yeah, by the way, 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.000 you have in October. We have a deadline this month 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.440 to make a decision. And so again when we looked 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.680 at the budgets, we always find money for, you know, 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.000 the big projects, you know, whether it's a Bengal leave 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.320 or a big project. But when it comes to the people, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.360 they say, oh, we're broke. We're not able to help 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.440 the homeowner. And I told him, I said, my number 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:52.560 one thing, we can't price the people out of Hamilton 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.040 County where they can't afford to live here and can't 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.679 afford to hold on to their home. I had gotten 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.760 a letter one time from a senior citizen. You could 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.360 tell she could barely write. And she hands me shaking 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.880 based on the letter, and she said she had never 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.120 in her life she missed her property tax. She always 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.360 pays her taxes, but she just can't do it, and 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.880 she deserves to hold onto her home and that really 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.760 touched me. And after that I just have been, you know, 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.480 relentless on trying to get this done. Now they've issued 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.200 a report from the state. You know, some of this 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.880 stuff got to go to the legislature. They got to 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.160 take it to the House, and they got to take 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.359 to the Senate, and they got to go back and forth. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.320 But people need help immediately, and so I have put 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.839 a motion forward to see if we can at least 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:43.200 start with this budget doubling the homestead to help our seniors. Again, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.760 I would I would encourage the governor to freeze these 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.720 property taxes until they can get it done, so that 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.560 can put some sense of urgency on it. But if 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.040 Butler County is doing it, Warren County's looking into it, 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.920 I think we've got to look into it. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.640 So it's just you know, the rich suburban communities like 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.880 Butler and Warcott. Green County's doing something. They said that 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:07.880 they're going to temporar roll back a half middle of 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.400 the inside millage. Montgomery County, which is Dayton, of course, 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.880 said they're working on promoting property tax relief and expanding 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.960 homestead which you did here in Hamlin County. Owner occupancy 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.840 credit stuff like that as well. And so it's not 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.880 just the wealthy quote unquote wealth of your suburbs are 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.200 doing this. It's happening all of the states simply because 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.400 it is so broken. Yesterday in the show, I had 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.120 the code chair and former Ohio House Minority Speaker from 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.040 Green Township, Bill Sites on the show. He was the 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.120 co chair of the working group the governor put together 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.400 to try and come up with a plan. They issued 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.480 a twenty point plan to try and fix the property 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.360 tax issue. One of the things came up and see 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.440 if you agree with this or not, and that is 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.280 the control through the county Budget Commission, which would be 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.880 the Hamlet County Budget Commissioner, or your concern would be 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:55.760 the reduction of unnecessary excessive levees basically meaning instad saying 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.560 that you know, you can't if a levee fails, you 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.440 can't come back right away put the levee back on 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:03.520 the ballot. From someone who is very pro local control, 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.040 county control, how does that sit with you? 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.400 Well, you know, the state always what I call it 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.440 trickle down taxation. They cut things at the state level 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.880 and they pass it on to the local level and 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.000 really don't give us the power. I'll give you an 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:24.320 example of people dealing with their sewer bills and I 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.160 wanted when I first got there, I said, well, wait 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.160 a minute, let's try to put a freeze on it 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.240 for senior citizens, etc. They said, no, you can't do 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.959 that because the state. You got to get approval from 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.880 a state, and then the state never did give us approval. 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.199 They're still running around talking about they got a build, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.959 but they never put it in the budget. You know, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.319 some of this control they're talking about, it was never 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.400 put in the state budget. And being at the state, 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:51.839 if it's not at the state budget, it doesn't have 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.520 a deadline. And if it doesn't have a deadline at 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.520 the state, you know how they do, They study, study, study, 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.920 at what they do is say go back home, and 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.240 then when you go home, they you know, they cut 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.920 the local government fund. I don't, we don't have money 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.719 to do anything. Uh. You know, I was up in 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.280 the state. I remember they kept saying, well, raise the 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.439 taxes at the local level, and we're gonna cut it 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.760 up at this level. And I jumped them and said, 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:18.079 this is trickle down taxation. So again it's almost a 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.480 passing of the buck. Uh. You know, because what I've 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.800 seen is that the state could fix this problem immediately. 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.839 And what we have right now is we have a 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:33.360 we have you know, property tax are do and bills 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.360 are due right now, and we're talking about studying and 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.520 a long term approach. I think we need a long 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.319 term plan, but you know, the lady that wrote me 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.520 and the other people that I've interacted with, they need 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.880 a right now plan. And I'm hoping that there are 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.840 some things that we can do. Hopefully doubling this homestead 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:57.400 will be Hopefully we can move forward with it. The debate, though, 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.560 is does the local people pay or does the state 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.320 give us the money to pay the doll. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:07.160 That's the problem, right this goes well, the problem is, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.679 of course, it goes back to what's Strickland. And the 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.520 idea was, hey, you know what, we've got to right 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.439 size the state budget. And so what we're gonna do 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.480 is we're gonna cut off all the local money because 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.439 we'd send our money to Columbus kind of like we 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.719 do Washington and it trickles back to us. And that 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.960 was the plan, all right, so we send our money, well, 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:23.440 you know what, we're gonna do stuff at the state 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.800 level we're going to cut off the local supply to 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.720 counties and municipalities and alike. And that, of course, over 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.360 the years, has put a lot of areas in a crunch. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.280 Property tax has a hand in that to some degree. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.360 But the thing is, okay, Well, the state is flushed 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.280 with cash. Look at our well balanced budget. We've got 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.520 a surplus at the state. The problem is that the 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.920 money's not flo flowing back to the local communities and 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.960 hasn't for some time. So in order to raise capital, 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.600 you guys have to, Well, we got to raise taxes, 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.640 We've got to put levies out there, and now we're 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.199 going to put a cap on the lobbies. I'm not 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.680 saying it's right or wrong, but it's it's the state 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.760 of politics because the entities at the time, to put 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.199 it together, we're trying to run for higher office. That 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.240 makes you look good when you're flushed with cash at 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:03.160 the state level, doesn't it. 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.599 Well, yeah, at the state level they always say we 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.400 got this rainy day. Fun I said, well, it's storming 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.040 down here where I'm at at Hamilton County. Give it 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.640 to us. And like you said, once you send it, 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.400 it's like Washington. Once you send it to Washington. Don't. 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.719 It never comes back. You know, we only get a 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.079 small percentage once you send it to the state. It 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.400 doesn't come back, just like a unclaimed funds, which I'm 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.679 I'm pushing Sloan right now with my five one three 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.520 relief bus. We're trying to help people get their money back. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.839 They want to give our money to Cleveland. We're not 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.599 getting it back here. They gave six hundred million in 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.400 the budget for Cleveland Browns out of our unclaim money. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.800 Focus on everybody claim our money. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:44.040 You know. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.320 I pushed back a little on that. Well, that's money 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.920 that's been sitting around for ten years. And I would 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.360 say this, like, if you're not plugged in enough to 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.280 hear all the people talking about unclaimed monds funds, you 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.959 go check the website. I went and checked, and I 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.360 got like a check of a It took like thirty years, 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.120 but I got to check for four hundred dollars. They're 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.000 pretty happy and unplaying money that was owed to me. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:07.840 But you know, you got to get off your ass 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.360 if it's your money and get it after ten years. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:11.480 It's public money. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.600 But let me say this though, for years people because 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.800 of the scams, people were thinking Is this real? Is 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.320 this a scam? Is this one of those fraud things? 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.640 So you had to get over that, and then they 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.240 made it kind of difficult. You know those who were 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.559 in the know, who you know, were able to do it. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.199 So now we're gonna make it simple. We've got the laptops, 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:35.880 we got the five one three relief bus. They can 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.960 go to five one three relief out or find the bus. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.920 And they ain't go. I saw a lady, a senior citizen. 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.000 She jumped up and said, what they had two hundred 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:45.240 of my money? 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:46.720 You know, where the hell are you being? 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.160 She thought it was a fraud. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:50.960 A lot of people, you know, because you know all 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.240 these things, you know, you gotta do a look now 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.120 you got to be good for people like you were 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.640 out there doing the business, representing people and you're telling 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.800 them it's like, oh, look, well I didn't believe it's Aleisha. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:00.600 That's a good thing. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:00.920 We were. 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.720 We had enough people like yours talking about getting your 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.160 money back. And if you don't want it to go 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.079 to Cleveland, uh, then you know, and I didn't. I 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.240 didn't want my four hundred dollars going to Cleveland. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:13.599 Well, I'll be honest with you, I didn't know we 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.920 had four billion dollars sitting up there. That a lot 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.959 of money. A lot of people could be helped with it. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.360 If they were saying, we're gonna put that money toward 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.840 the homestead, wouldn't it. Yeah? 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.400 Yeah, Now Brown's are getting the news. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:28.720 Hi. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.599 And by the way, you got that deal done. You 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.800 finally we got the stadium deal done and all that stuff. 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.040 Stadium deal. Okay, we got the stadium deal done, and 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.320 then we turn around and the Bengals are terrible? Can 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:38.199 we get our money back? 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.439 Well, I'm and I tried to tell you that you 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.199 got to read the sign print of these deals and 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.840 the taxpayers was written. Now now now I'm on your 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.640 show and you're hollering we won our money back? Get 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.520 we not winning? And at the same time, Brandma's house, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.719 she can't hold onto her house. What did we get 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.520 out of the deal. We needed one of those Denver 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.400 Broncos deals where they said they're putting up all private 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.679 money and we could have saved at Grandma's house. And 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.280 so now we're fighting again to hold the property taxes. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.920 We took out the thirty percent, so now you can't 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.000 get the thirty percent rebate that you and I have 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.360 been fighting for every single year at least you can 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.880 get something back, and that's not happening. And now we're 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.160 not winning. And now we've got a deal, and we 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.440 got a lease that will end at the same time 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.400 as the Reds lease. Oh my god, we got problem. 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:31.960 Maybe I said, have come on here you and gave 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:32.520 me a headache. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.600 Yeah, no, I got your workdof You're the one who 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.280 wanted the damn job, and now you don't want the 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:36.920 damn job. 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:38.960 I want the dog. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.360 But I'm trying to tell the people. I'm only one vote. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.720 And even with the property taxes, last time we had 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.960 to fight, it was a two to one vote. I 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.600 mean we didn't we didn't get a unanimous So again, uh, 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.240 we're gonna keep fighting for this. I got a motion out. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.000 I want you. We're doing that. We're getting ready to 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.160 the budget. And I told the vister Ludo, Now we 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:04.080 can't say we're broke today and then tomorrow you got 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.440 an eight hundred and fifty million dollar post almost a 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.200 billion dollar Bengal lease and the taxpayers are left out. 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.520 So that's what we're doing. But throw on Wednesday, next Wednesday, 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.320 put on your pink. Put on your pink is Breast 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.680 Cancer Awareness Day. My mother passed from it. A lot 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:23.160 of other people had cancer. I've got a cancer Caucus 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.720 state of cancer. It's hitting everybody. He doesn't care about 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.480 your age, your race, your social status. The rates have 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.800 gone up in Hamilton County. So we've got doctors in 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.800 a call to action so that we get more screenings 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.360 that no co pay and all that. And we're doing 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.800 it next Wednesday. I want all celebrities, all the people 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.760 in Hamilton County. We're wearing pink. But it's not just 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:51.040 breast cancer. We're gonna take on all of the cancer 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.040 and look at how we could get more money, more 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.800 clinical trials, and more cures. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.240 But we got to do it through early detection from 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.840 non Hodgkins lymfalma and breast cancers hit friends and family members. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.680 I know it all too well. And uh, I'm glad 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.680 you're raising awareness for it. And I'm gonna I'll be 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.320 glad to wear pink next Wednesday. The Cancer Caucus. She 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.960 is a Hamlin County commissioner, Alicia Reese, trying her best 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.160 to try and get some of that money back. All right, Alicia, 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.120 I gotta get going. I always love having me on. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.080 You're a spark of light in another wase dismal Hamlin County. 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:26.000 Let me put it that way. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.880 Well, thank you. Let's keep the fight norse all right. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.240 Appreciate you, appreciate you. Have a great day. We'll chat 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.160 again next time. I got to get to a news update. 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:38.280 I always love having Lisa bring noise. I have a 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.720 little buyer's remorse at that state. I've got the stadium, 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.480 they'll done. Can we get some of the unclaimed fun money? 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.360 Maybe buy an offensive linement or two? 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:45.960 Huh? 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:47.000 Can we can we? 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:47.840 Maybe? 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.120 All right now, Mike Brown's like, wait, what can we do? 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.920 Can we do that? We can get players and we 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.160 don't have to pay for I don't have to cut 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.880 a chick. Hey wait a minutelet's fuck into that. Hey hey, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:06.200 he's on the side. Hey hey, oh frugalism. It's five 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.200 minutes away from a news update. We'll do that and 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.960 more to follow. Sloane here on this rainy and we 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.160 welcome the rain on this Tuesday morning, by the way, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.160 because it's been bone dry for two damn long rain 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.439 for a good solid day, good hard rain we needed here. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:27.200 Seven hundred w Wellwike sharing thumbs up here and Zach 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.000 Tanner worried about his job. It's kind of half joking 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.760 with Alicia rees On a few minutes ago talking property 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.960 to actually if but say, yeah, you get the stadium deal, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.080 all done to pay car all said, and then the 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:43.240 team just completely completely tanks because QB one goes down. Well, 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.640 you know, if Joe Burrow hadn't gone to that's just cover, man. 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:47.920 It's the fact that's structural that they're just not sound. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.399 The offensive line is terrible. They've got defense looked a 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.280 lot better this week. I'll give him credit there, but 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.880 I mean, let's just face it, that's not it's built 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.040 around just Joe Burrow. Once that goes away, I don't 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:00.560 know how much is that on Zach Taylor. And of 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.920 course his play calling has been terrible too, so I 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.320 don't know. You know, when we when Marvin Lewis got 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.560 fires because people stop showing up the games, the stands 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.119 looked completely full, and I would I don't know how packed. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.920 It's hard to say because a lot of was Detroit 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:17.360 Lions fans. So if you have a good team coming 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.080 in from out of market, they're gonna buy. They're gonna 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.000 buy the tickets. They'll make money. So at the end 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.879 of the day, that's that's what got Marvin out. I 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.719 think Zach Taylor, I'd be surprised if anything happened anytime soon, 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.560 because you know, he went to the super Bowl that 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.240 they just going to the super Bowl. Hell, at this point, 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.480 making the playoffs, we're going to the super Bowl, the playoffs. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.080 That buys you ten years for the brown for the Bengals, 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.240 that buys you ten years. You're good, You've got some 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.200 he's got some time. I'm not quite sure. We haven't 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:47.760 named a quarterback yet. Oh, we got problems. We got problems. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.000 We'll see what happens. There's still be able convinced that 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.359 they can still turn it around even without Joe Burrow. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.240 I don't know how you do that. I really really don't. Nonetheless, nonetheless, 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:00.480 what else going on? Prime deals are back, I said 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.040 they were. Just didn't they do a Prime Prime Day? 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:04.720 You know Amazon Prime? Oh, I guess they're doing it 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:09.199 again starting today tomorrow. Fourth time that they've done two 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.760 member exclusive savings events in a single year. Why did 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.800 they do that? Because last time one they raked in 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:20.600 nine billion dollars in October from Prime Deals twenty twenty 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:25.280 five nine billion dollar. Holy crap, last time it did 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.960 is nine billion dollars. So yeah, I'd imagine they just 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.040 continue to do this several times a year. If that's 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:34.560 the case, so Prime days, baby, I know is when 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.840 we moved into the new house, it was like a 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.399 steady stream of Amazon trucks just dropping stuff off. I 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.440 don't even want to know. I don't even want to 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.520 look quite honestly, look at it, going how much money 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.280 do we spend on it? Because you just need stuff? 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.840 You need stuff? You know how things are always changing 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.560 in America and for those like, oh my god, I 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.399 just don't recognize America that's so supposed to be what 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:00.160 happened yesterday becomes commonplace. What happened five, ten, fifty, teen 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.439 years ago, of course, is ancient history. Nothing ever stays 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.280 the same. We're always moving. And that's the challenge, of course. 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.560 That's the appeal of conservatism and tradition, is that while 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.480 we want things to stay the same and even still, 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.040 nothing ever changed, and progressives, of course want a utopia 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:20.200 that will never exist. And the older you get, it's 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.440 supposed to feel more and more out of touch and 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.120 this is really going to put it over the top. 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.840 And if you thought are collective angst as a society, 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:30.720 we've hit peak peak social And I read something the 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.119 other day I think we hit peak social media. Maybe, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:37.879 but we're just starting. We're just starting the AI And 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:39.280 you go, well, what do you mean. I can get 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:41.680 on my phone and I have a chat GPT and 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:43.880 I have claude, and I could have my dog playing 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.640 piano and just tell them to take a photo, take 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.080 up this image of me and make me dress me 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.480 up like a a pelican that is dressed like they're 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.280 in some fifth century court. And we can do that. 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.080 I can make you look like a pelican wearing the 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:05.400 outfit of a fifth century barrister. Okay, so what Well, 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.639 there's a new one called Sora s O r A 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:12.960 not Siri, not Soros, but Sora s o R and 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.960 it's been topping Google's I'm sorry, it's Apple's App store 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.760 charts for a few days now. The Biblimatter are the 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:24.400 open AI folks who make chat GPTT and it's designed 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:28.440 to be a midpoint for video. It's the social media feed. 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:32.000 So you know social are we had peak social media? Yeah? Maybe, 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.879 but we're not even beginning AI social media. What the 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:37.159 hell is that? And this is what you need to 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.600 know about. This is frightening if you are fear of change. 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.480 So they make short videos kind of like TikTok, right, 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:49.200 and it's it's in that way, but it's an interface 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:55.840 that allows you to create videos and manufacture content literally 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.280 without manufacturing the content. The AI does it. It's really 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:03.240 really interesting and it's the only AI social media feed 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:05.960 to launch in recent weeks. So sou all you need 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:09.159 to do is install the app, obviously, but you use 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:11.920 a text prompt to create any footage you can dream 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.359 up with. So instead of going I'm gonna take this 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:16.320 photo or this video and hey, can you doctor it 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.280 up and make it look and then that doesn't quite 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:19.720 right and you've got to go back and render it, 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:23.719 this is just literally keystrokes. So you can upload images 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.520 of yourselves, and you could take your likeness and voice, 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:31.159 and you could put yourself into imaginary scenes. You can 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:35.760 integrate fictional characters, your company logo, even dead celebrities. You 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.920 can put whomever you want into these videos. And it's 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:44.360 really really high quality. And here lies the rub. Now, 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:46.600 keep in mind, right now, if you download and looked 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.560 at it. It looked terrible, but that is because so 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.000 many people are downloading on a daily basis. There's no 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.000 way they can keep up with it because of bandwidth 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.800 and everything else. But mark my words, what winds up 0:22:56.840 --> 0:23:01.600 happening is eventually their ecosystem can up and they're able 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.159 to service all the people that want to use this. 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.720 I mean, the early days of YouTube were terrible, but 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.960 now YouTube is like its own network, basically the biggest 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:13.240 network in the world's YouTube as far as content goes. 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.760 So Sora, you just put keystrokes in and it'll come 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.600 up with anything you want, just in time, by the way, 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.760 for the next election. So what this means is more 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.800 accurate and better deep fakes. I'm looking at it now. 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.879 They have a and again, just a few keystrokes did 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:34.879 this saying, hey make a guy. Take a guy at 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:39.080 night and put him in a situation where he's stuffing 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:43.560 drop boxes, and a few minutes later it spits out 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:47.360 this very very realistic looking video looks like it's from 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.600 a security camera of a guy wearing a mask, dressed 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:54.080 in black, getting out of a van and taking a 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:58.160 bunch of papers and stuffing them into a drop box 0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:02.399 in front of an election place and you look at 0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.600 that and you go, my god, that looks real. And 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.240 what would happen is someone to see that, And of 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.600 course it's spread on social and since to the naked eye, 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:13.879 or even now experts are going, you know what, I 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.679 can tell a little bit here and there, but by 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.480 this time next year, I won't be able to tell 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:22.760 unless we absolutely put it through its paces and break 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.600 down each frame of the video and look at it 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.840 in that fashion. But that takes time, that takes effort 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:29.240 to be able to tell whether or not this is 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.560 deep fake. By then, it's spread around the world and 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:37.400 the image of this guy who is putting ballots into 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.240 drop boxes has now been sent to grandma and grandpa 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.960 and mom and dad and they believe it. So what 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:48.080 does that mean? Well, that means now that we can 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:53.880 be more manipulated than ever before, and not necessarily all 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.560 in bad ways. There's probably some good in here too. 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.119 But there's another one where they had a video of 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:02.600 a bomb exploding city streets that was completely fabricated, and 0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.800 you can take that kind of thing and augment reality, 0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.160 and by the time anyone with any knowledge or ability 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.240 is able to process a go nut was a fake. 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.920 It's literally days or weeks later, and by then it's 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:18.480 already been amplified and shared billions of times, millions of times. 0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.359 And now people are believing this alternate universe. And so 0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.520 if you thought we were divided before, and I think 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.600 you know, this whole Charlie Kirk thing is evidence of that. 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.960 You know, right now Conservatives Republicans are holding Charlie Kirk 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:34.000 up like he's being nominated for sainthood at this point. 0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.399 And meanwhile, you know, a few months ago, how many 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.159 people could really tell you who Charlie Kirk was. Now 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.680 I'm not diminishing him at all, don't don't get me wrong, 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.720 because he was significant in swinging the election Trump's way. 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.200 There's no question about it as far as mobilizing young voters. 0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.160 But unless you're in that, you know that that twenty 0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.480 nine year old sweet spot, which most of us aren't, 0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.000 you probably had no idea what he did, or maybe 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:55.440 you knew the name and kind of yeah, I've seen 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.720 him before, I heard him talk and never maye listen 0:25:57.760 --> 0:25:59.359 to the podcast or whatever. And of course you know 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:01.880 one she pass and especially in the fashion of which 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.720 he died which was murdered assassinated. Your legend grows exponentially, 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.760 and that's true, whether it's Charlie Kirk or it's I 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.520 don't know, John F. Kennedy for that matter. The legend 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.840 grows if you become a murder, which Charlie Kirk did. 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:20.000 And so the end result here is that you wonder 0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.640 how many people are like Morning Lass and didn't really 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.000 know who Charlie Kirk was or was about until he 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:28.520 was he was executed, until he was assassinated, which is true, 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:32.080 and so a lot of people followed him. You may 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.439 go who and then they look at you like, how 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:35.840 the hell do you not know who this is? Or 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.680 this platform or this this app or this website or 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.280 this chance whatever it is. We have all of this. 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:45.439 It's become so fractured that people have their own realities 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.760 and so, you know, there may be a news source 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.520 or website and influencer whomever that I listened to or 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.119 subscribe to that I would point out to you and go, 0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:58.200 what do you mean You know that is you must 0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.200 be the enemy. Then you have no idea what you're 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.680 talking about, because there's just so many of them out there. 0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.080 And so we have this this, this whole separatize, separate. 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.399 I guess information sources out there and whether they're credible 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.200 or tur or not. This just adds to it. So 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.560 you could take a lot of this information that's going 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.080 to be coming out, a lot of this disinformation. And 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:20.120 if we know about this too, I'm not even talking 0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:22.159 about you know what, all the Russians and Chinese get 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:23.440 ahold of the stuff, what they're going to do with 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.440 it and throw it back in our face, and it's 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.240 just going to feed the narrative. And we're going to 0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:29.920 be fed a lot of fake news to the point 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:31.320 where we're not going to be to tell what's real 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.600 and what's fake. And we're all going to be living 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:36.639 in these alternate spheres in universes. I don't know what 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.640 that means for the future, not for elections or anything else, 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.920 but you know, if there are countless echo spheres out 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.000 there where you're being fed a steady diet and stuff 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.000 because of the algorithms, and hey, you know what, I 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.639 saw this guy stuffing ballot boxes and it's real. I 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:52.800 tell you it's real because I was told by someone 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.120 it's real, even though you know they may be using 0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.960 that for disinformation I don't know who to believe anymore. 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.840 I can't trust the you know, the the traditional news 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.639 outlets and a martlook what they've done. And now we 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:08.119 have this whole wild wild west of information and disinformation 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.160 out there. We're not going to know who to believe 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:11.959 and up from down at this point certainly not going 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:12.360 to be good. 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:12.560 Now. 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.440 You know, there's some other things in there that they're 0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.639 trying to block out. Any misuse of children or images 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:20.920 and likenesses of children, which is gonna be a really 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:25.640 interesting First Amendment debate. There's one where you can't use 0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.400 the likeness of like for example, they said, we tried 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.840 to produce a video of President Trump or other world 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.080 leaders to create a but we can't do it. We 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.920 can't will not let us take an image of a 0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:41.600 active politician or someone like that and try to alter 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.320 what they're saying. However, they did. I think this is 0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.760 maybe the New York Times that did this. They created 0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.560 a political route with attendees wearing blue and holding signs 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.840 about rights and freedoms, and sore produced a video featuring 0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.280 the voice of President Barack Obama, so it kind of 0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.240 cut you could sort of look like Obama as they 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.640 pan across the crowd, and it was his voice. It 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.840 sounds exactly like him but talking about this, and so 0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.320 you can do things like that where it's like a 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.960 subtle influence. I mean, the whole thing is fascinating where 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:14.400 it's headed. But I guess from a consumption standpoint, it 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.760 seems to me that if we have something like Sora, 0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:20.560 and eventually if it works, who knows, I'd imagine it 0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.360 would is more and more people download. It's going to 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.200 take a long time, though, I think for it to 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.719 get better, simply because of the demand that's out there 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.959 with people like me talking about or you may download 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:31.880 her to look at and go check this out. It's terrible. 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.360 What's Sloan talking about? It's not today, it's tomorrow. Because 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.520 eventually it's going to get that good. If you can 0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:39.840 create this, I guess in a laboratory at this point 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.840 and say hey, here's a great example of how we 0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:46.680 can do this. Once they're able to work around all 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.480 the demand for it, it'll catch up. It'll take some time, 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:51.760 but I'll be here sooner before you know it. I 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.920 just wonder, though, if like you know, you look at it. 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.520 I don't know, what's your favorite show. What do you watch? 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:00.480 Is it a comedy? Is it maybe like my webspit's 0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:02.920 a lot of time watching TikTok videos, but that's like 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.480 user created content and stuff, right. I wonder what happens 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:12.600 to regular television show, your favorite shows, talking head shows. 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.240 It might be it could be a comedy, it could 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:15.760 be romance, drama, cop shows. 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:16.080 Whatever. 0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.240 Isn't this just going to be able to replicate and 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.680 create shows with no actors or actresses whatsoever, just AI 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.440 images and then if you found something you really really liked, 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:29.800 I mean, you know, it could become a series and 0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:32.160 there's no actors, No one's going to go on strike. 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.440 You don't have to pay anybody, you don't need all 0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.800 that behind the scenes. You're not shooting any video, you're 0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.120 not having to go out on location. You're just going, hey, 0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.720 make me a story about I don't know, because you 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:46.000 know what we need. We need other New York Chicago 0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.400 or LA based cop show. That's what we need. You 0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.280 turn on network TV. It's reality shows and it's like, Okay, 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:56.280 I've got either Chicago Ems, I've got New York Police, 0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.440 or I've got LA Fire. There are pretty much shows 0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.440 that scripted shows that are on TV, right, I can't 0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:05.520 you just do this with AI. It's like literally Hollywood 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.800 is screaming for AI to take over Final We'll create show. 0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:10.880 We can create a show on Mars if we wanted to. 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.080 And I wonder what the level AI with The writing 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.400 is pretty damn good. AI can write, you know, write 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:22.160 you a pretty good cover letter, a resume, interview, questions, 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.080 interview answers. You can do all this stuff in augmented reality. 0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.320 On AI. I'm pretty sure it can write a pretty 0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:32.240 damn good script, comedy, drama or otherwise. And so now 0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.280 all of a sudden, that device in your hand, I 0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.400 is opposed to just use your creative content and TikTok videos. 0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:43.280 Now there's actual programming on there. There's decent quality AI 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:47.840 produced content, scripted well not even I guess it would 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.800 be scripted, but AI's I mean, just think about that. 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.920 What would that do then? Is by the way, I've 0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.240 got CNN on one monitor and we've got Fox News 0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.920 on another monitor, and I'm looking at Bill Hemmer, for example, 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:05.320 talking about the Chicago mayor re establishing is zones, and 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:07.960 I went in the future, if we are all in this, 0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:12.720 I guess the silo of information and disinformation? Does that 0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.320 go away? Do we just have like AI generated news 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:19.320 shows that they can come up with guests and talking 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:25.040 heads and do shows based on fake news? And I 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.160 wont as I watch a show going I don't know 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.040 who this guy is, but I really really like him. 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.640 These interview questions and the guests, it's absurd. And yeah, 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.000 it's all done by AI. It's all scripted, it's all imaginary, 0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:36.760 and you wonder how many people will be able to 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.840 tell the real from the fact. I mean that's you know, certainly, 0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.320 your your TV shows, your streaming shows are one thing, 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.240 but you're not going to need the actors and actresses anymore. 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.400 They're going to be completely AI before too long. I mean, 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.480 it seems like to me that would be gone. Imagine 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.760 imagine creators and content. You could create shows like that. 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.480 You're not paying you're not paying the other overhead for 0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:03.520 studios or shooting or movies or you know, you're not 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.960 shooting on film or digital video. There's no editing, there's 0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.280 no people working behind the scenes. It's just like someone 0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.040 with some ideas and you put it in an AI. 0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:12.840 All of a sudden, we've got programming out I mean 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.720 that's kind of frightening, right because talk about you know, 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.440 in institutions that are following we've already seen journalism or 0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.280 as the state of journalism right now. It's not very good. 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:22.720 That's going to road this even more because you know what, 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.680 the fake stuff, the AA stuff is going to be 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:26.920 more entertaining the news now, and let's face it, a 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.560 lot of the news that we consume is entertainment based 0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:33.040 Fox and CNN. It's like radio talk show with pictures. 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.840 I just see AI, if this indeed is where we're 0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:40.720 headed with this thing, and if it gets really really good, 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.280 I just think people are going to be instead of 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:46.360 watching NBCCBS, Fox, CNN, whatever it might be, it'll just 0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:50.560 be whatever AI is fabricating that day, and we'll be 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.800 living in a fake universe as far as our information 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.920 entertainment goes. If we're not already, it's crazy to think 0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:01.120 about where this might be headed. Anyway, Now they're scared 0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:02.920 the crap body, and I think, you know, more a 0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:06.160 okay show, I'm gonna watch some strict Have AI write 0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.800 me some cop show only with like naughty bits in 0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:10.880 it or something like that. Okay, that's one thing, but 0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.600 you know now we have fake news, and we have 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.279 like AI generated fake news that people go, I know 0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.640 it's fake, but I like it anyway. That's where we're headed. 0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.040 That's sobering. Af let me get a news update in 0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.560 when we continue the reality of politics. I mean, Kevin 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.680 Burton is here, he's right over the river and coming 0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.719 to his political strategies with Crosstown Consulting where he's the 0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:36.840 head there. And the issue of populism is interesting. Was 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:41.160 the Trump swept in on a way? The populism? You 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.120 wonder where the Democrats are with this? A new survey 0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:45.960 came out. I'll share the numbers within the second. It's 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.400 kind of sobering. And the Republicans and Trump look like 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.120 they're underwater and a lot of things until you look 0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:51.680 at the numbers of Democrats are putting up and then 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:56.680 you go, holy crap. They're literally it's like they're the 0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:01.640 Bengals of politics right now. And if you're if you're 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.640 high five and thinking that's a good thing for Republicans, 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.080 I don't know if it is. Because I'm a firm believer. 0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:08.920 And now about you that you know, if you have 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.160 a good opposition party, it's going to make the party 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.280 in power a little bit stronger, looking over their shoulder 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.000 a little bit. There's no more reason to look over 0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.080 your shoulder. God help us what they get away with 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:20.879 it really is a mess. But what's going to happen 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.200 over the next few years relative to demographics and kind 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:24.680 of what we're talking about here, I'll get to Kevin 0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.759 just add right after news update on this wet Tuesday morning, 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:29.920 Scotslon Show continues on the Home of the Best Bengals 0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.400 coverage seven hundred WWT. Since snap don't want to be 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:37.400 an American Scott clone show, this is seven hundred WLWT. 0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.640 The Dems are in very big trouble because said the Dems, 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.200 and opposition to Trump from within the GOP starting to 0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:47.080 take shape for twenty twenty eight. We'll get into that 0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.200 more in just a segment with Kevin Burton from Crosstown 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.759 Advisors as a political strategist and some of like only 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:53.920 thirty five percent of respondents a new poll said they 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.720 approved of Trump's management of the economy. This aren't good numbers, 0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:59.960 and that is a similar number to those who approve 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.200 moved to the economy under Biden. So as far as 0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:03.920 the average voter goes the only so much of a 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.680 difference between what Biden's doing or did and what Trump's 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.279 doing right now. But so, okay, so how is that 0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.239 a fa how's that a failure for Democrats? Well, thirty 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.359 five percent said Trump is doing a good job manage 0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.400 in the economy. Less than one in four think that 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:23.040 the Democrats have a better plan, something like twenty four percent, 0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.520 So that's an eleven point swing. Kevin Burton's I mentioned 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.960 Crosstown Advisors over Northern Kentucky's a political strategist. Good to 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:30.160 have you back, Kevin Haw's life. 0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:33.480 Thanks, Scott All's good. How about yourself? 0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:38.120 Can't complain rocking and rolling. So I think this is 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:43.200 interesting because the US government shutdown is happening under Republican control, 0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.279 and the Conservatives have blamed Democrats for it, and it's 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.759 not sticking. And the reason maybe it's not sticking is 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.920 because it's about healthcare. Now, back to that poll, the 0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:56.720 only area where DEM's score higher would be women's rights, 0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.920 environment and healthcare. If you think about it, you know 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:03.759 women are doing better than men on paper, certainly, and 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:08.560 especially younger women, so there's really no political leverage there. 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.920 The environment is kind of a fickle thing always has 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.120 been in America because you're not going to buy the 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.920 chicken that's more eco friendly because it's a dollar fifty 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.320 more than regular ass chicken. And inflation is killing you 0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:22.240 right now. So environment is a great first world problem, 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.320 and when you feel like maybe you're getting third world income, 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.560 you don't care about it as much anymore. So that 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:29.480 just leaves healthcare. Is that what's going on here with 0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:30.000 the shut down? 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:31.399 Well? 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.239 Yeah, I mean healthcare is honestly the one thing that 0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.600 Democrats just if you look for really since people started 0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:40.960 really knowing what Obamacare was and that I've been there 0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:46.839 consistent winning issue, and you know, it's pretty easy to show, 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:50.800 like if your premiums go up or down. So for 0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:54.200 the Democrats, that makes total sense to the wall in 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:59.520 on this because healthcare in this country is ridiculous. I 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:03.279 don't care who you are. That's a messageous, it's a mess. 0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.920 We're the world's the greatest superpower, but we can't figure 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:07.320 out healthcare. 0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:08.319 I don't know why. 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.839 So for for the Dems who miss you know, who 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:17.560 controls the House, the Senate, the President are all Republicans, 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:23.920 and in THEA in thirteen months from now, you can say, hey, 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:28.000 I fought for your healthcare. I fought to keep the 0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:31.120 prices low. Because to your point, they're struggling on every 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:36.400 other messaging. So for the Dems, it makes total sense 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:41.200 to go all in on to protect the A. 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.879 Yeah, which I mean, you think about it, it makes 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:48.440 it healthcare affordable. Well that hell, it's not affordable. It's 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.799 the problem. And you look at it empirically, Kevin, as 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:53.880 you know, and this is outside of maybe you know, 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:56.840 political strategy here, but the harsh realities, the fact that 0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.320 it's got to be subsidized for it to be affordable, 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.840 which total he underminds the idea that it's affordable in 0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.759 the first place, maybe affordable to someone who's benefiting from it, 0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.560 but the overall it's it's that the prices are to 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:08.920 control and this just adds to it. 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.520 It is just a complete and total mess, you know, 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.560 And it's something that what's interesting is, do you know 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.960 Richard Nixon was the first person to propose universal health 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:27.280 care in this country, So you know, and I remember 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:30.800 when in the Trump's first term, Obama said, rename it 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.160 trump Care. I don't I don't care if it keeps 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:38.320 people and this kind of leads to the populism movement 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.680 that you're seeing with even like MPG and people on 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:46.719 the lap that you know, Israel has universal health care 0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.200 and we're giving them money. I mean, we have so 0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:53.960 many problems in this country that we're not taking care 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:55.759 of our own. And it's really what Trump hit on 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.880 with his American First policy and why he really won 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.919 this selection, because people are tired of the status. 0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:05.080 Well, yet at the same time it feels like the 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.920 status quote, doesn't it and does that now there's a 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.840 long time between now in twenty twenty eight, does that 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.319 populism start to backfire? I mean we're starting to see 0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:15.960 I don't know if it's cracks as much. Ted Cruz 0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.359 looks like he is trying going to make another run here. 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.920 He is runner up in twenty sixteen, and we'll see 0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:23.200 what happens in twenty twenty eight. But it's like that's 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:26.239 starting to call us, like, you know, the neocons are back, 0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.719 because it's like, hey, remember us over here, We're not 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.000 as crazy and you know, we're not saying, we're not 0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.879 trotting out Robert Kennedy Junior saying and seeing things about 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.000 Taylan Hall, and we're not shooting ourselves on the foot 0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.920 every other day and just doing wild buck ass wild stuff. 0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.200 We're like, hey, you know, we're gonna do conservative stuff, 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:43.440 but it's not going to be the day to day 0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:46.200 swings and the craziness that we're seeing right now. I 0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.560 know that numbers and this is where you come in. 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:52.520 Polling from this past month found that thirty three percent 0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.440 of adults age eighteen to twenty nine approved of his 0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.840 handling Trump's handling of deportation immigrations. Sixty seven percent disapproved. 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.680 And that's interesting because you know, with the murder of 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:07.279 Charlie Kirk, Trump won the last election because of the 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.840 young vote turn ups for the young men, and you 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:11.880 look at that and you go wow, even podcasters are 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.080 now starting to maybe turn a little bit towards him 0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:16.719 in many areas. I wonder if that continues, and if so, 0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:17.280 what does. 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:23.279 That mean, Well, if he loses that faith that he's 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:28.720 the magnavement is just done to your point, and they 0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:35.080 really propelled why Trump won last election that the young men, 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:38.359 the podcast I'm gonna call him the podcast bros. They 0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:42.239 came out and drove and to his credit, he saw 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:47.520 the first avenue of go beyond everything and be you 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:51.759 know on the podcast. But the problem is for the 0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.600 eighteen to twenty nine year olds, they can't afford houses. 0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:56.680 American dream is dead for them. 0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:57.279 Yeah. 0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:01.800 So when Trump first ran, he was populism, he was 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.040 outside the status quo. Well he is the swamp now 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.960 he is. I mean, he's been ingrained in American politics. 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:10.799 If you're a thirty year old, thing about it your 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.480 whole half of your whole adult life. Trump has been 0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:21.080 the dominating force in the Republican Party. So that's the 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.920 fact that Ted Cruz is looking at and you know, 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:29.400 to do an exploitatory committee because you're banking on if 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:35.719 everything goes the same, he doesn't have an avenue to 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.759 be president. If it gets a little bit worse, he 0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:43.399 does because like if Trump's new numbers approved, it's going 0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.560 to be JD. Vans or Marco Rubio because they're vice 0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:47.839 president sectary of state. 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:48.360 You know, it's the. 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:53.840 Passing of the tour. If their numbers not increasing, it 0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:57.000 goes down. Similar to like George Bush Dick Cheney that 0:42:57.120 --> 0:43:02.560 you had to have a normal and I'm doing are 0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:09.200 quotes around normal Republican run. You know, that's the avenue 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.600 and it's all about matchups. So you know, you still 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.080 have to see what the Democrats are going to do 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:18.040 on their side, which they are so lost and disorganized. 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.920 Right now, right that's the problem. Yeah, it feels like 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.360 we're splitting hairs over the Republicans. Like Vance is the 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.800 front runner, he's like pulling it like forty six almost 0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.239 fifty percent behind. In the closest one I think is 0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.919 vivik Is is twelve percent, so it's not even close, 0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:33.759 and then cruises even on the radar at this point. 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.880 Now they could change. There's name recognition, he's in a 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.800 big state like Texas. A lot of fundraising is critical. 0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.480 We'll see, and that's still a few years away. But yeah, 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.319 there's some there's some cracks are starting to show here. 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.680 And I think, you know, if you start losing the 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.600 young vote because they are promised they're virsion of the 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.760 American dream and they're going to be rich and plentiful, 0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:53.319 and hey, we're going to come in and we're going 0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.400 to fix healthcare and we're gonna do all these wonderful 0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:58.800 things and we're gonna it's gonna rain money and everyone's 0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.160 gonna be wealthy. And it's not happening, and it's getting 0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:05.040 worse actually, with inflation that starts to expose things. Then 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:08.000 you add in the Epstein stuff that was a big 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.640 turnout machine for him, and he's going to expose all 0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.480 this and he said, hey, nothing to see here. There's 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.279 definitely opportunity. But the problem is this, the Democrats are 0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:20.480 so far out in the woods they can't even they 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.120 can't even come up with a plan here, or at 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.000 least a candidate and idea. They're grasping and shutting the 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.680 government down and trying to save us money and get 0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.840 money back. Meanwhile, it's costing us what a trillion and 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:35.320 a half dollars for a seven week extension for continuing resolutions. 0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.600 Basically means it's going to cost us an extra one 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.320 and a half trillion dollars just to pump the football 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.839 for seven weeks so they can pump the football again. 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:45.279 It's insane. That's how far gone this whole thing is. 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.200 They're clutching at the one thing they have, healthcare and 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.360 trying to build around that. Well, they're gonna get a 0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.520 lot better plan than that. To your point, Bernie Sanders 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.600 has come outed and introduced an oyster farmer. People are 0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.239 talking about socialism and oyster farmers. Now I don't know 0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:00.359 what the hell's going on all love. 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.160 Well, so the grand planner guy you were talking about, 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.360 and that's kind of where we were talking about the populism, 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:16.440 he's gone up like gangbusters because the main governor was 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:19.200 going to announce that she was going to run for Senate. Well, 0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.480 now it's actually a fight because he has kind. 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.680 Of gone viral for lack of a better term. 0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:30.560 And his whole messages. In nineteen ninety there were one 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:34.399 hundred billionaires. Today there are eight hundred. Are you eight 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.200 times than you were in nineteen ninety? And that's a 0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:43.480 message that resonates to a lot of people. So it's 0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:47.759 gonna be very interesting to see which avenue comes back 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:53.880 to the middle and which avenue stays for the populism movement. 0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:56.560 Because one thing that we didn't talk about for the 0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:00.560 eighteen to thirty year olds is a save act. You know, 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.160 we haven't and I'm gonna say we Basically, if you're 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:07.640 forty and under, you haven't made student en payment since COVID, 0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:13.560 what's gonna happen when those bills are due? And that's 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:17.560 gonna hurt Trump's numbers even more so for the Dems. 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.840 You know, it's so similar to twenty sixteen. You know, 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.560 they just had a complete bottom out. And there's two 0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.399 avenues you can do. You can do what they did 0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:31.759 after the Reagan Bush era, moved to the center, you know, 0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:36.120 a Bill Clinton new type of Democrat, or you do 0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:39.920 the other which is the AOC, the Bernie Sanders, and 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:45.160 you go far left. So we'll have to wait and 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:45.480 see it. 0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:50.680 He is a Kevin Burton polster and political strategist with 0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.040 Crosstown Consulting that's right over the river in Kentucky. You're 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:57.719 talking about what's happening with these new poles that are 0:46:57.760 --> 0:46:59.880 coming out. The DEM's in a lot of trouble right now, 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:01.839 way underwater and a lot of area is the only 0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:03.560 one is healthcare that they're above water and that we 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.960 care about, and that is what is driving the government 0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:08.040 shutdown right now because they can plan a flag and 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.200 build around It's about politics, of course. It's not about 0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.640 trying to get insurance to people. It's not about trying 0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.839 to protect people. It's more of the same. We're gonna 0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.080 spend more money to try and win an election. And 0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.480 by the way, we're over thirty seven trillion dollars in debt. 0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:21.440 Now it's another trillion and a half to keep things 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.280 going for seven weeks, so we can do this exercise 0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:26.640 all over again. And this is setting up, of course, 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.560 what's going to happen in twenty twenty eight, which feels 0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:31.680 light years away, but it's really not. Republicans seem to 0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:33.600 have it. Sodo put jad Vance as the front runner, 0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:36.640 but that could all change because there's a anti populist 0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:38.800 movement going on. Ted Cruz is trying to bring the 0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.160 neo cons back to relevancy, and we'll see what happens 0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.440 over the next couple of years if they can actually 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.560 pull that one out. But you know, you talk about 0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:47.239 left wing populism, and I think for a lot of 0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:49.640 people listening, it seems like it's, you know, that's just 0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:52.239 socialism as what it is, not not really, So what 0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.080 is a We know what a right wing populist is, 0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.040 it's Donald Trump. What's a left wing populist? 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.080 Well that's a good question, And I mean, what's what 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:06.040 happens when if if they get elected, how far do 0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.160 they have to come back to the middle. You know, 0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.120 I would argue that Biden was probably the most progressive 0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.960 president since LBJ, and so I would I would think 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:21.680 that a populous president, you know, an AOC or a 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.520 Bernie Sanders type, it's going to be even It's gonna 0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:29.360 be very similar to the probably FDR's Great Society, you know, 0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:33.960 the New Deal or not New Deal LBJ. 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:35.040 You know. 0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:39.560 So I think it's stuff, Yeah, because I think they 0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:43.760 need to get back to basically kitchen cabinet issues, which frankly, 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:47.680 they've gotten so far in the weeds. Listen, we get 0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:49.520 it that you don't like Trump. A lot of people 0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.440 don't like Trump, but Trump at least has a message 0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.719 that people knows where he stands. The Democrats have just 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:59.719 been in such you know, disarray for people who like 0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.800 he's been like they're fanos, like he just has wiped 0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:05.839 them out and they have no idea how to come 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:10.320 back to it, and how disorganized they are. You're leaving 0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:16.080 an avenue for that populism movement, very similar to twenty sixteen, 0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:20.360 when you know, you had everyone running for president and 0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.600 then you had this one business TV star who just 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:28.160 had that avenue to the plurality, and it could very 0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.160 well happen on the left of time. 0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:34.919 I think The outlier here though, is the demographic shift 0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:37.800 in America. Of course, that line is always moving Kevin Burton, 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:41.560 and it's always lear In the next election, we're going 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:43.239 to be a lot greyer, We're going to be a 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:46.880 lot more diverse. That means that the younger vote is 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:48.279 going to have a lot more power. And what does 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.120 said that mean for the GOP? What does that mean 0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:50.839 for Republicans? 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:56.560 Well, so you know, Democrats were banking on that whole 0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:02.400 series since twenty sixteen. But don't have a good candidate, 0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:07.760 you still can lose, you know, And like the Hispanic 0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:11.920 vote is not one and the same. They have different beliefs, 0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:16.200 you know, and that's for everyone, So I get it. Yeah, 0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:19.160 So the real thing that I would really look at 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:23.360 is for Democrats is actually kind of getting harder and 0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:32.520 harder because Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin are actually getting redder. And 0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:36.359 so for them to gain back to two seventy, they 0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:42.279 have to really see the college educated increase in Georgia, Arizona, 0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:46.759 North Carolina, and the white whale for Democrats have been 0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:52.160 for for thirty years of Texas, that's really their avenue 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.520 because we've seen it in Indiana, We've seen it in Ohio. 0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:00.320 The Midwest has gone pretty far to the right, and 0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:04.200 I think you're going to see that continuation. And the 0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:06.320 three Roust Belt states that always. 0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:10.200 Decide the election interesting well, a lot going to change 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:12.920 day to day, week to week, month to month, and 0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:15.040 certainly by the time twenty twenty eight rolls around. But 0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.040 it's going to be interesting the population shift and who 0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:20.360 takes advantage of that. I mean, Trump was brilliant and 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:24.480 spotting the young, the young male vote predominantly white men, 0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.160 and he did really well with black men too for 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.680 that matter. Wonder where that's going to be in twenty 0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.560 twenty eight, and you know, someone who leans to the 0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:35.360 right certainly. I just think that an opposing party and 0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:39.360 the Democrats, you have to have a better version of 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:42.160 what they've offered now for the last two well maybe 0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:46.640 even more than two election cycles, simply because it makes 0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:49.040 the other party stronger. You know, having a weak Democratic 0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:52.560 party is not good if you have conservative views and beliefs. 0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:56.279 You have to have someone who's a strong opposition. And 0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:58.640 who knows, we may see the second coming of Bill 0:51:58.680 --> 0:51:59.439 Clinton coming along. 0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:04.400 I don't know, well, And competition is always good and anything, 0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:08.360 and you know, the Democrats have been basically the Cleveland 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:13.800 Browns lately, and everything, everything they do is just Charlie 0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:20.120 Brown football, you know, and so until they get a 0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:23.759 unified message, and you know, and that was probably the 0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:26.920 Kammon of the biggest problem is that she didn't have competition. 0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:32.360 And competition and primaries sharpens your skills. It lets things 0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:35.120 out already, you know, to the public, so you can 0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:38.480 craft those messages that you know how to counter it. 0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:43.919 So on either side, you want a competitive primary because 0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:46.920 you want to give the American people a choice, and 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:49.320 it sharpens your skills for the candidates. 0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:51.640 Well, it makes a country better too. I mean, look 0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.279 at look look at how deep Blue Hamlet County is, 0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:56.319 and look at the leadership and the lack they're off there. 0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:58.200 You look at the state of Ohio and look at 0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:00.799 how many things the voters approved in the legislators said, 0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:02.040 now we're in the majority, we're going to do what 0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:05.239 we want anyway. That's the problem. He is Kevin Burton, 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:09.040 political strategist, Crosstown Consulting in Northern Kentucky. Thanks again, Kevin, 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:09.880 great to check in with you. 0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:11.160 Thanks Scott. 0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:14.120 And the reason why I think you know, the certainly 0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:17.040 that they're focusing on healthcare. The one area where Democrats 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:18.920 gore ion is and we think about twenty twenty eight. 0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:21.120 You know that thirty year old who's going to be 0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:25.160 thirty four years old in the next election, tired of 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.040 waiting for healthcare to come to them as fear and 0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:30.880 fear of people become insured, and so you're going to 0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:32.799 have to That may be the huge issue for twenty 0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:34.560 twenty eight. We'll see a lot's happens sight now and 0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:36.960 then run and late. Of course. Scott flown Show continues 0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:44.200 afternoons on seven hundred WWE. Slooney back on seven hundred WLW. 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:50.200 Just said Kevin Burton on with Crosstown Consultants. Hees a 0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.560 political analyst, Polster and the like. A lot of local 0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:56.879 and regional issues too as well, and the issue about 0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:59.680 populism fading. But I want to get back to the 0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:02.160 big story, of course, that everyone's talking about. That'd be 0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:04.719 the government shutdown. I don't know, you know, it's not 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:07.279 fair to say it's the biggest story because I think 0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:13.040 property taxes affect more people in Ohio and certainly Kentucky, Indiana. 0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:15.640 We have went. Yeah, those are the pocketbookations that we 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:17.440 all feel. But you know the big news store of course, 0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:19.200 oh the government shut down and they we're so close 0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.000 last night. We need more votes and what can be done? 0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:23.520 And Kevin is on and pointing out to point it 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:27.080 out and agreeing rightly, so is the theater of this 0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:30.840 whole operation that both sides need this trauma to continue 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:32.520 to do what they do, and that is be largely 0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:34.960 and grossly inefficient and incompetent. I'll get to that in 0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:37.680 just a second, but pointing out the you know, the 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:41.400 infighting with Republicans and you know Trump, and we're getting 0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:43.279 people are getting burned out with the Trump stuff, and 0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:45.600 it's just a constant, steady drum beating. The guy does 0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:48.080 more than six months, and most presidents do in two terms. 0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.640 But there's also a burnout factor, right, there's a real 0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:52.640 exhaustion factor with us where we just tune it out 0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:55.560 and don't pay attention as much anymore, and then only 0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.040 when something outrageous is said or done or perceived to 0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:00.680 be done, then you know, it gets suck backed into 0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:02.799 the cycle. And so it goes for most average people 0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:05.520 who don't follow this stuff day to day, and that 0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:07.719 closely and probably even worse if you do follow this 0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:10.279 stuff closely, the fact of the matter is Democrats and 0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:12.680 a lot of trouble because they're underwater and all the 0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:16.080 important things. You know, for example, the economy. You know, 0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:20.200 you can criticize, and rightly so, the tariffs, but you know, 0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:22.719 when you're eleven points under Trump when it comes to 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.200 how they would handle the economy, that's that's terrible. The 0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.759 only thing they're ahead on is and then I think 0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:29.880 the only critical thing they're had on is healthcare. And 0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.160 we know the healthcare system in America has broken, long 0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:36.400 since been broken. It doesn't work for anybody. And of 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:38.560 course we on one side wants the government to completely 0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:41.359 and utterly take it over. And then the other side 0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:43.400 is like, well, you know, it's then you're going to 0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:45.600 socialize men. We can have socialists. And even though we 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:47.360 you know, we have a lot of socialist policies that 0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:51.320 Republicans agree with, it's still the perception that socialized medicine's 0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:52.919 going to destroy things and you're going to take it away, 0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:54.920 You're going to steal my healthcare. Well, if you're when 0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:58.160 the dwindling numbers of Americans in healthcare works for for 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:01.320 you and you vote, you're going to be strongly against 0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:04.280 any idea like that. But you know, as younger people 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:07.279 get more power at the ballot box and realize the 0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:09.680 importance of showing up to elections and doing all that, 0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:11.680 then I think you're gonna see the pendulum swing. What 0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:13.279 that's going to look like in the future, I don't know. 0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:15.920 But the fact the matter remains is that the one 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:18.719 issue that Democrats score higher on than Republicans or than 0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:21.080 Trump is I guess in this case would be healthcare, 0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:25.000 which is exactly why they're holding holding things hostage because 0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:30.080 I think they knew that Americans and not all Americans, 0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:33.560 were talking about those who are pull those are surveyed 0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:35.239 in the polls, right, Because that's what you go with, 0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:38.719 is that Americans believe that Democrats are better on healthcare. Well, 0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:40.920 if you frame this soul shutdown about trying to protect 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:44.200 your health care, naturally they're going to side with Democrats 0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:45.960 on that not knowing the facts. So what's going on 0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:50.239 makes sense human nature and politicians from both sides of 0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.360 the aisle, they make their money by the rest of 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:57.919 us being ignorant. I mean, if you look at Obamacare, 0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:03.920 for as long as it's been around, it's what twenty fourteen. Well, 0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:05.359 we know it's been a dog, it's been a little 0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:07.800 it's been a money loser. You know, the prime premiums 0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.440 go up, millions of people lose their health insurance despite 0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:15.359 the promises they would not, and Americans buying large look 0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.280 at it favorably. And that is because the subsidies keep coming. 0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:20.160 You know, under Joe Biden, he had to use COVID 0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:22.680 as a cover to fund more money, take more subsidy 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:26.120 to prop a Blabamacare. Well that's long since gone. That's 0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:28.720 long since gone. And the reality is we're subsidies in 0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:31.840 the house. So you know, is it affordable. Yeah, but again, 0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:34.360 if you take our taxpayers from from Trey A and 0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:38.200 shuffle to Trey C in order to pay for this stuff, 0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:43.240 it's not really cheap. It's extremely expensive, and fear and 0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:47.000 fear of people are being insured as results. So I 0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:49.760 put out the subsidy difference. We'll get into this maybe 0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:51.800 next hour in this because I think it's just so critical. 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:53.320 But the idea here that we're going to shut the 0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:56.880 government down, I'm Democrats of this. Comings Hey, the one 0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:59.080 issue that Americans are going to sile and will be healthcare. 0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:01.000 So it looks like we're trying to save Obamacare safe 0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.120 healthcare and keep twenty two million people from being affected 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:05.680 by this. We're going to look like heroes, and so 0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:09.200 far people are buying it. But you know the other 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:12.480 elements here too that we keep missing. And this whole 0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:15.440 thing is the theater of shutting government down. As I 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:17.600 pointed out, it's going to cost us well over a 0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.560 trillion dollars to shut things down, to basically shut this 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:22.240 thing down. But it's gonna cost an extra twillion and 0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:27.800 a half dollars to patch this thing over so we 0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:30.120 can kick the can down the road to what's seven 0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:33.320 more weeks? So this would extend things for seven weeks. Okay, great, 0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:35.840 you get to carry trillions of dollars, more money, more 0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.320 and more money, more subsidy. And what happens is this 0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:42.320 thing just prolongs the agony to continuing resolution will only 0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:45.160 go for another seven weeks. So it's costing us more money. 0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:47.280 We got to borrow more money, We've got to sink 0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:52.280 further in debt in order to extend the budget for 0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:55.400 another seven weeks. Why don't we just settle this thing now, 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:56.600 Why don't we just get this thing done? 0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:56.840 Well? 0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:58.640 We can't do that because we have to hold people 0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:03.480 hostage any idea. And we hear stories about individuals who 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:07.600 work for the government, federal employees who are concerned about 0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:10.160 whether their next check is coming. What about them? And 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:11.840 there's numbers of them that have to show up to 0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:13.919 work and not get paid. At some point, you will, 0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:16.160 you'll be made whole. It always happens, and it may 0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.040 be a week, at maybe two and maybe a month. 0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:22.000 And unfortunately, because of the economics of life, is that 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:24.880 a lot of people don't have that kind of money 0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:27.560 in reserve. And unlesson as well, you should have that. Yeah, 0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:29.040 I mean it's easy to say that if you're not 0:59:29.160 --> 0:59:31.680 in a good position, but most people don't. And that's 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:33.600 the reality of So who gets hurt in this Some 0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:36.360 federal employees. But yeah, if you can tough it out 0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:38.360 for another week or so, it'll probably come to a conclusion. 0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:41.120 The fact the matter remains, as I put us before, 0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:44.120 to put this all in perspective, that only about eight 0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:47.919 percent of the federal budget is currently not funded because 0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:50.600 of the shutdown. Those are this will be the non 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:55.680 essential departments. It's only eight percent. The other ninety two 0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:58.160 percent of government seems to be essential. And whether it's 0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:02.480 a Democrat or Republican a shutting thing down, they still 1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:05.800 agree that ninety two percent of government, ninety two percent 1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:10.760 is essential. So I'll put it back to my Republican friends, 1:00:11.440 --> 1:00:17.400 my MAGA friends, my Dozehrens. Sounds kind of phony to say, hey, 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:20.520 we're going to shut government down and only non essential 1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:23.800 people are going to get furlized. So ninety two percent 1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:26.840 of government's essential. That kind of undermines everything you're about. 1:00:28.720 --> 1:00:31.840 And the essential parts would be defense, it'd be veterans, affairs, 1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:35.200 and health and human services, and education and labor and energy, 1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:39.200 and air traffic controllers and TRENT to the TSA and customs, 1:00:39.240 --> 1:00:40.440 and that sounds like a lot. 1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:41.880 You know. 1:00:41.960 --> 1:00:43.760 It's interesting too. I think about twenty five percent of 1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:45.960 the FAA is affected by this, which should cause just 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:49.800 enough disruption for someone to notice we have a and 1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:51.920 on that point, you know, just enough to be uncomfortable. 1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:53.960 I just saw a story pop up on Fox News 1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:56.200 here as I was talking about this, actually right before 1:00:56.200 --> 1:00:59.920 I was talking about this, there's an airport in California, Burbank, California, 1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:05.200 where no, they had absolutely no air traffic controls on 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:07.000 the job. I don't know how big a field Burbank is. 1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:08.800 I mean, we know Burbank because of you know TV 1:01:08.960 --> 1:01:12.200 and like Burbank, California. But I don't know how big 1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:15.040 a field that is. But it's just you know, it's again, 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:16.480 it's just enough to scare you go, oh my god, 1:01:16.520 --> 1:01:17.920 they don't have air traffic control to show up to 1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:20.560 the airports. Oh it's Burbank, California. You know the majority 1:01:20.560 --> 1:01:22.440 of the airfields. And I'm not talking about airports like 1:01:22.560 --> 1:01:25.400 CVG and Dayton and Indianapolis and Columbus and the light 1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:28.560 and I'm talking about your fields like you Oh hey, 1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:31.600 there's you know, general aviation out there, there's somebody in there. 1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:34.000 Most of those. Most of those aren't aren't. There's no 1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:37.760 one there most of the time. It's all like remote 1:01:37.760 --> 1:01:40.040 You could trigger the lights to come out automatically, basically 1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:43.120 if you're flying a plane at night. The bigger ones 1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:46.880 with passenger assure a different story. But okay, so they 1:01:46.920 --> 1:01:49.280 don't have air traffic control. Sturt in a couple hours 1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:52.480 in Burbank. And so again it's that just enough to 1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:54.960 cause you to notice, to make a headline. Hey, you're 1:01:54.960 --> 1:01:56.600 still gonna get your student loan, you're gonna get your 1:01:56.600 --> 1:01:59.439 Social Security, you're gonna get your your subscription for where, 1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:01.600 your prescription and for whatever, and your subscription to your 1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:06.080 prescription for plavix or whatever the hell it is. It's 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:08.360 kind of you know, I don't know. The Constitution says, hey, 1:02:08.400 --> 1:02:10.840 you know, we have to pay our congress people, our senators. 1:02:10.840 --> 1:02:12.840 They're going to make X amount. That's that's written in 1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:15.240 the concourse, that's written in the constitution. Can't change that. 1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:18.120 But you have so long ago, if you know, if 1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:23.600 you stop their healthcare benefits, their benefits, their entitlements, you 1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:25.640 wonder how many times they shut the government down. I'm 1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:28.040 just saying. I'm not saying. I'm just saying, like, of 1:02:28.080 --> 1:02:31.800 of a sudden, people in the executive people, the legislative branch, 1:02:32.040 --> 1:02:34.120 they wait to hold on, hold on, just so I 1:02:34.200 --> 1:02:35.720 can't go to the I think I was supposed to 1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:37.480 have a teeth cleaning. I got to I got my 1:02:37.560 --> 1:02:39.520 teeth cleaning. Later to say, you mean I can't I 1:02:39.560 --> 1:02:41.160 got to pay for that, my oh no, no, no, no, 1:02:41.280 --> 1:02:44.360 no no. It could be a entirely different story if 1:02:44.400 --> 1:02:47.640 they were affected by this in some degree. But you know, 1:02:47.920 --> 1:02:50.480 a lot of this is protected by the Constitution and 1:02:50.600 --> 1:02:52.280 all on all. The bottom line is this is nothing. 1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:53.320 It's a temper tantrums. 1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:53.720 What it is. 1:02:54.160 --> 1:02:57.800 We wound our outrage for our cause, not outrage at 1:02:57.840 --> 1:03:01.120 the system that encourages it. Now, if you really want 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:03.000 to feel the pain, you know the other this is 1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:05.960 cutting off their benefits. But if you started monkeying with 1:03:06.120 --> 1:03:10.120 under a Medicare and social security, now all of a sudden, 1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:11.880 people are gonna be angry. We can't have that. We 1:03:12.000 --> 1:03:13.960 want you sort of like, oh my god, government shut down. 1:03:13.960 --> 1:03:15.680 How does it affect me? Well, we're not quite sure. 1:03:15.840 --> 1:03:19.080 You're absolutely sure. It's most Americans, most people, almost all people. 1:03:19.080 --> 1:03:21.640 It's not gonna affect you at all. Okay, So there's 1:03:21.640 --> 1:03:23.560 a national park that's closed. Well, the grass is getting 1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:26.720 pretty high around here. That's about it, you know, that's 1:03:26.720 --> 1:03:30.080 why they close the non essential what's the parks, museums. 1:03:30.360 --> 1:03:34.320 It's a good visual. The illustration is, I don't know. 1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:35.680 I show up to a place and I've got to 1:03:35.720 --> 1:03:37.800 I know, I have business with them. I look and man, 1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:40.520 there's nobody. The receptions are receptionists. There's no one in 1:03:40.800 --> 1:03:42.400 the lights are off it. But I see people in 1:03:42.440 --> 1:03:45.160 the background. It's kind of like the same thing, like 1:03:45.240 --> 1:03:48.040 the receptionist has the day off, the receptionist desk is 1:03:48.120 --> 1:03:50.680 closed and the lights are off, but everyone else behind 1:03:50.720 --> 1:03:54.760 the scenes like that's they're still doing stuff. 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:55.360 I'd mean, like. 1:03:56.880 --> 1:03:59.760 I walk in and Ronald McDonald is laid off, he's furloughed. 1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:02.600 They're still making burgers though, oh yeah, yeah, we're still 1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:06.440 We're still making burgers. But the clown, the clown's furloughed. 1:04:07.000 --> 1:04:12.600 Oh okay, got it. Basically what this is and it's 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:15.960 a shutdown, is simply that is that like democrats are going, Look, 1:04:16.640 --> 1:04:18.600 the only issue we got right now is healthcare. The 1:04:18.680 --> 1:04:20.640 only one that people trust us on is toing. And 1:04:21.200 --> 1:04:23.800 our plan is really to take piles of money, more 1:04:23.880 --> 1:04:26.120 money than is needed, and subsidize it from Pile A 1:04:26.520 --> 1:04:29.080 and move it over to Pile B or C. And 1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:31.960 it makes it look like like health insurance is affordable 1:04:32.040 --> 1:04:35.320 for folks. And I granted people in my family like this. 1:04:35.480 --> 1:04:38.120 If you don't have health care and you need healthcare, 1:04:38.160 --> 1:04:41.160 which we all do, you don't care where the money's 1:04:41.200 --> 1:04:43.400 coming from. You don't care that it's bankrupting a marria. 1:04:43.440 --> 1:04:46.480 You don't care about that because you need to get 1:04:46.520 --> 1:04:48.160 your kid at the doctor. You need the office, is 1:04:48.200 --> 1:04:50.360 it or maybe someone in your family sick. God forbid. 1:04:51.520 --> 1:04:54.000 We shouldn't vilify people for that. The people are on it, 1:04:55.240 --> 1:04:58.560 like we need healthcare. And we know that in America 1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:00.640 unless you work for a big, big comp I mean, 1:05:00.680 --> 1:05:02.600 I'm fortune. I work for a big company right now 1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:08.720 and they have great health insurance. But most businesses, and 1:05:08.960 --> 1:05:12.200 we're talking to the engine drives America, the economy is 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:14.960 small business. So people who employ one hundred and ninety 1:05:15.000 --> 1:05:18.880 nine folks or less. We've seen over the decades and 1:05:19.000 --> 1:05:20.360 over the last few years, for that man, a lot 1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:22.200 of number has been dwindling. I might spell a fall 1:05:22.400 --> 1:05:25.200 like a rock, the number of small businesses that can 1:05:25.240 --> 1:05:29.040 afford healthcare insurance. And so at some point you think 1:05:29.080 --> 1:05:31.200 it's all going to tip in the balance, it's going 1:05:31.240 --> 1:05:33.080 to go the other way where we have younger voters, 1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:35.120 as we talked about Kevin, who are going to be 1:05:35.160 --> 1:05:40.320 more impactfully. You know, with each following election, older Americans 1:05:40.320 --> 1:05:43.040 have become less relevant. We age out, and we start 1:05:43.120 --> 1:05:44.920 to notice that around the time you start to get 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:47.120 the AARP things and the mailbox are going a wait, 1:05:47.160 --> 1:05:49.400 a minute I'm thirty five, I'm forty years old, They're 1:05:49.400 --> 1:05:51.720 send me AARP stuff. Yeah, you're starting to get on 1:05:51.760 --> 1:05:54.600 the radar, man. And if you've ever turned on any 1:05:54.840 --> 1:05:56.880 on a traditional streaming or TV as we used to 1:05:56.920 --> 1:05:58.280 call it back in the day, turnt show, I don't 1:05:58.360 --> 1:06:01.160 understand any of this, I don't understand it. Or you 1:06:01.280 --> 1:06:04.080 turn on I don't know a music. I don't understand. 1:06:04.160 --> 1:06:05.800 I don't know who the music is. You're not supposed to. 1:06:05.840 --> 1:06:09.520 It's built for an entirely different generation. But the closer 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:12.920 you get to sixty five and eventually beyond from a 1:06:13.000 --> 1:06:15.720 political standpoint, from a marketing standpoint, the less relevant we 1:06:15.800 --> 1:06:19.080 have Each day we age past the age of well 1:06:19.160 --> 1:06:22.120 up until about fifty to fifty four years old. After 1:06:22.200 --> 1:06:24.000 that we become more and more irrelevant. That's just the 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:28.200 way it has always been that way, myself included. Now, 1:06:28.280 --> 1:06:30.400 you do have some sway politically when it comes to 1:06:30.520 --> 1:06:33.160 showing up to vote, because generally older you are, the 1:06:33.280 --> 1:06:35.520 more skin you have in the game, the more you're 1:06:35.560 --> 1:06:37.400 paying attention, and the more time you have for that 1:06:37.520 --> 1:06:39.479 matter to be out and be active and go vote. 1:06:41.800 --> 1:06:45.760 But you know, as we start to die off, as 1:06:45.840 --> 1:06:47.480 baby movers are sposal to start to die off. That 1:06:47.560 --> 1:06:50.040 means a younger generation that is going to be millennials 1:06:50.080 --> 1:06:52.600 and gen zers now are voting, and it's going to change. 1:06:52.640 --> 1:06:54.320 I think at some point in our lifetime, at least 1:06:54.320 --> 1:06:57.720 in my lifetime, we're going to see medicine become more socialized. 1:06:57.840 --> 1:07:00.280 Like eventually, it's going to have to change because no 1:07:00.320 --> 1:07:03.320 one wants it. Like right, it's a pain in the 1:07:03.360 --> 1:07:05.960 butt to use. If you're an employer, you spend a 1:07:06.080 --> 1:07:10.040 ton of money and effort. Every well Benefits season's about 1:07:10.040 --> 1:07:11.360 to kick off, and where they do. They kick the 1:07:11.400 --> 1:07:13.200 tires on the plan, going how can we save money? 1:07:13.440 --> 1:07:15.880 Should we jump from should we be blue cross and 1:07:15.920 --> 1:07:18.640 blue shiels? Should we go to university to unc? Should 1:07:18.640 --> 1:07:20.760 we go? You know, and you start looking for alternatives 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:23.600 there simply because you're trying to keep the rates to 1:07:23.720 --> 1:07:26.000 the cost down. It costs too much money and the 1:07:26.080 --> 1:07:28.360 cost of compliance is too much. A doctor's office, you 1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:30.680 go in there and there's seven people behind the desk. 1:07:30.800 --> 1:07:32.640 One of them have anything to do with your healthcare. 1:07:32.680 --> 1:07:35.760 The rest are you know, trying to figure out medical billing, 1:07:35.840 --> 1:07:38.720 coding and things like that. The whole industry is propped 1:07:38.760 --> 1:07:40.360 up that way, kind of like taxes are, right, you 1:07:40.400 --> 1:07:42.920 can need an army of accountants. The more money you 1:07:43.000 --> 1:07:44.880 make to figure out what the hell, how the hell 1:07:44.920 --> 1:07:46.400 I'm going to pay ten and what all this means? 1:07:46.640 --> 1:07:48.560 I can't figure it out myself and then make it 1:07:48.640 --> 1:07:51.600 complicated on purpose. It's the bureaucracy, and it's the red 1:07:51.680 --> 1:07:55.760 tape that keeps some of these folks employed. So businesses 1:07:55.800 --> 1:07:57.760 don't want that. The only one people want it would 1:07:57.800 --> 1:08:01.640 be the insurance companies and government. And this is the issue. 1:08:02.560 --> 1:08:05.720 So anyway, government continues to shut down. And if you 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:07.120 don't believe me on any of this stuff, all you 1:08:07.200 --> 1:08:09.200 have to do is look at the markets. When this 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:10.840 thing first broke, I said, I get you. You got 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:12.560 to look at it, and really markets haven't changed all 1:08:12.600 --> 1:08:15.120 the much. We'll have Andy Schaeffer from all Worth Financial 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:16.760 on about eleven thirty five. We'll talk about this a 1:08:16.760 --> 1:08:19.840 little bit more, because Wall Wall Street has baked this 1:08:19.880 --> 1:08:21.840 in already, going, yeah, we shut the government down what 1:08:21.960 --> 1:08:25.280 every ten minutes on the tens and if it goes 1:08:25.360 --> 1:08:27.680 more than you know, a month, then we start to 1:08:27.720 --> 1:08:30.519 pay attention because it's going to start to affect things 1:08:30.600 --> 1:08:32.280 but we're a long way away from that right now. 1:08:33.000 --> 1:08:36.479 Just remember eight percent, all of this shutdown business, all 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:39.760 of the theatrics, all of the theater, it's all over 1:08:39.880 --> 1:08:41.040 eight percent of the government. 1:08:41.439 --> 1:08:42.120 That's all it is. 1:08:42.560 --> 1:08:44.560 Anyway, Let's get a news update in and more to 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:47.759 follow at eleven oh seven. On that note, Demian Brady's 1:08:47.760 --> 1:08:50.560 here from the National Taxpayers Union. Who really wins the 1:08:50.600 --> 1:08:54.400 government shutdown? We'll talk about that next on seven hundred WLWT, Cincinnati. 1:08:54.560 --> 1:08:58.840 My keyword on our website shaty. That's shack You enter. 1:08:58.760 --> 1:09:04.680 It now, american'slny backtown seven hundred Wowan. 1:09:04.680 --> 1:09:07.679 We're almost into the second full week tomorrow, the first 1:09:08.040 --> 1:09:12.519 quite the second full week of shutdown theater despite talks yesterday. 1:09:12.640 --> 1:09:15.559 Oh we're so close, are you? Dems are holding out 1:09:15.560 --> 1:09:19.839 for COVID era tax subsidies for Obamacare and the credits 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:21.880 that are scheduled to expire at the end of this year. 1:09:23.000 --> 1:09:25.360 Do you know where that money goes if it's successful? 1:09:25.400 --> 1:09:27.880 You know who is going to benefit the most if 1:09:27.920 --> 1:09:30.320 the Democrats get their way. Damian Brady is here with 1:09:30.400 --> 1:09:34.280 the National Taxpayers Union, which is an adevacy group for 1:09:34.680 --> 1:09:37.080 national taxpayers, which is all of Us Damian, welcome back. 1:09:37.080 --> 1:09:37.400 How are you. 1:09:38.600 --> 1:09:39.160 I'm doing well? 1:09:39.240 --> 1:09:39.439 Thanks? 1:09:39.479 --> 1:09:39.800 How were you? 1:09:39.960 --> 1:09:43.160 I'm doing well, although I'm sick to see that the 1:09:43.320 --> 1:09:46.000 national debt as well well, over thirty seven trillion dollars 1:09:46.320 --> 1:09:50.720 now and in exchange for about seven weeks of funding. Uh, 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:53.479 this is going to cost us about another trillion and 1:09:53.560 --> 1:09:56.920 a half dollars. So the fiscal malpractice continues, doesn't it. 1:09:57.960 --> 1:09:59.000 Yeah, I mean here we are. 1:09:59.160 --> 1:10:02.560 This is the twent the first government shutdown since the 1:10:02.680 --> 1:10:07.360 modern budget system was set up. You know, it's clearly busted. Uh, 1:10:07.400 --> 1:10:10.840 it's not working for taxpayers. We have politicians who aren't 1:10:10.920 --> 1:10:15.880 acting responsibility. There's a simple deal there to continue funding 1:10:16.600 --> 1:10:20.080 through most of November, and they continue to hammer out 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:22.760 the final funding deal for the next fiscal year, which 1:10:22.840 --> 1:10:26.439 which has already started. And yeah, everything is being held 1:10:26.520 --> 1:10:29.960 up because the Democrats want to continue this program that 1:10:30.160 --> 1:10:33.480 was created on a temporary basis and it's super expensive 1:10:33.479 --> 1:10:35.240 and it should just be allowed to inspire. 1:10:35.520 --> 1:10:37.599 Yeah, but it's a making it makes health care affordable. 1:10:37.680 --> 1:10:39.479 Wait a minute, now, this is about getting money for 1:10:39.760 --> 1:10:43.160 more subsidy. So if you have to subsidize something, it 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:44.360 doesn't make it cheaper. 1:10:46.040 --> 1:10:48.840 No, especially when it's coming out of the taxpayers pocket. 1:10:49.040 --> 1:10:52.920 And there's lots of problems with with this program. So yeah, 1:10:52.960 --> 1:10:58.040 So the subsidies are created for Obamacare, which mandated, you know, 1:10:58.160 --> 1:11:01.800 all these requirements that have to be covered in healthcare policies, 1:11:01.840 --> 1:11:05.800 and it set up these exchanges within the states. And 1:11:06.200 --> 1:11:09.120 it's not very it's not very costly. I mean, it's 1:11:09.120 --> 1:11:12.040 not very cheap. It's very expensive. It requires there's already 1:11:12.040 --> 1:11:15.320 a subsidy that was created in the original law, so 1:11:15.439 --> 1:11:20.000 that during the pandemic, while the Democrats had control of 1:11:20.120 --> 1:11:24.120 the White House, the House of Representatives, and the Senate, 1:11:24.560 --> 1:11:31.000 they created this special plus up subsidy for the Obamacare subsidies, 1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:34.000 which went well above the poverty line, made a lot 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:38.320 more people eligible for it very expensive, and they created 1:11:38.360 --> 1:11:41.080 it on a short term basis. Before it was set 1:11:41.120 --> 1:11:44.160 to expire. They extended it again in the so called 1:11:44.280 --> 1:11:47.560 Inflation Reduction Act, and it's supposed to expire at the 1:11:47.800 --> 1:11:50.400 end of this fiscal year, at the end of this 1:11:50.520 --> 1:11:53.400 calendar year. But yeah, the Democrats want to keep the 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:57.719 subsidy going because Obamacare is just not a very good program. 1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:02.320 It needs all these subsidies. But we shouldn't be embedding 1:12:02.479 --> 1:12:04.840 all the spending into the budget. We should let these 1:12:04.960 --> 1:12:06.599 expire and get tax players a break. 1:12:06.840 --> 1:12:09.839 Yeah, this is this conversation with Demian Brady National Textpayers, 1:12:09.880 --> 1:12:12.160 and it's not a referendum on our healthcare system. Are 1:12:12.240 --> 1:12:15.799 our healthcare system is jacked. It's it's it's horrible for everybody. 1:12:16.640 --> 1:12:19.160 That's not what we're debating. We're talking about holding the 1:12:19.240 --> 1:12:20.800 government up the costings, some of the trillion and a 1:12:20.800 --> 1:12:23.280 half dollars to kick the can for another seven weeks 1:12:23.320 --> 1:12:24.719 so we can do this all over again and shut 1:12:24.760 --> 1:12:27.400 it down over something else, but largely its healthcare, because 1:12:27.439 --> 1:12:30.240 that is the one issue that Democrats are above water 1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:32.439 on and hold like an eleven point lead over Trump 1:12:32.520 --> 1:12:37.080 on everything else, the economy, defense, you name it, outside 1:12:37.120 --> 1:12:42.040 of I think the environment, in women's rights, they're underwater on. 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:45.120 And if it's the one thing that you can hey, well, 1:12:45.240 --> 1:12:47.800 Democrats are good on healthcare. Let's let's shine a light 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:50.320 on that. Let's make an issue. And this doesn't solve 1:12:50.800 --> 1:12:53.560 the problem because it's not like the Republicans have a 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:56.679 better alternative to what we're doing right now. And that's 1:12:56.800 --> 1:12:59.639 that's the rub. You know, this is all about subsy 1:12:59.760 --> 1:13:02.479 So this Obamacare subsidies so it can be affordable for 1:13:02.560 --> 1:13:04.679 the regular man and woman, which I get. You don't 1:13:04.720 --> 1:13:06.240 care if you don't have health insurance. You just want 1:13:06.280 --> 1:13:08.320 someone to pay for it. But the problem is it 1:13:08.360 --> 1:13:11.400 doesn't work. Let me use an illustration and tell me 1:13:11.439 --> 1:13:13.840 if I'm right or wrong about this daming. So let's 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:15.360 go to colle let's talk about when we all own 1:13:15.400 --> 1:13:17.479 subsidy of college. Right, and so the government says, hey, 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:19.560 everyone goes to college. It's going to be great. And 1:13:19.680 --> 1:13:21.640 you know, we've got these loans and these programs, and 1:13:21.720 --> 1:13:23.320 you go to school and whether or not you finish, 1:13:23.360 --> 1:13:24.960 it doesn't matter. You've still got to pay us back 1:13:24.960 --> 1:13:26.439 at some point. We're going to get our money back. 1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:28.840 We're going to subsidize college. We're going to continue to 1:13:28.880 --> 1:13:31.200 ask for more and more money to make college more affordable. 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:34.840 And it seems like the more subsidy you give universities 1:13:35.080 --> 1:13:38.519 and colleges, the more they raise tuition. It just keeps 1:13:38.560 --> 1:13:40.280 going up and up, or at least it did anyway. 1:13:41.400 --> 1:13:43.160 Isn't that what the problem is with healthcare is we 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:46.479 continue to subsidize it, and therefore insurers just continue to 1:13:46.479 --> 1:13:48.600 do well, we'll just we're just going to continue to 1:13:49.240 --> 1:13:51.600 take more money, make more profit. Is the same Is 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:52.200 it the same thing? 1:13:53.240 --> 1:13:56.479 Pretty much as a vicious spiral. There's no intensives control 1:13:56.560 --> 1:13:59.479 costs because they know politicians are going to come in 1:13:59.720 --> 1:14:02.920 and and them buckets of money of taxpayer dollars, so 1:14:03.000 --> 1:14:05.720 they have no incentive to control their costs. And this 1:14:05.880 --> 1:14:09.280 is the problem, especially with these Obamacare subsidies, is that 1:14:09.360 --> 1:14:16.400 they're very complex. There's lots of improper payments. So at 1:14:16.439 --> 1:14:19.280 the beginning of the year, taxpayer estimates how much they 1:14:19.320 --> 1:14:22.160 are going to earn that year, and then the payments 1:14:22.200 --> 1:14:25.320 are set up in advance and they go directly to 1:14:25.400 --> 1:14:29.120 the healthcare insurance companies in these marketplaces, and then when 1:14:29.120 --> 1:14:31.280 you pay your taxes, then you have to reconcile it. 1:14:31.680 --> 1:14:33.439 So a lot of people's incomes turns out to be 1:14:33.920 --> 1:14:36.519 different than what they estimated, so a lot of that 1:14:36.840 --> 1:14:39.799 money has to be clawed back, and it's it's very complex. 1:14:39.840 --> 1:14:43.400 It's a big burden on the government, and it's also 1:14:44.040 --> 1:14:49.040 a very expensive refundable credit, which means if refundable credits 1:14:49.080 --> 1:14:51.559 are credits, you can get well above and beyond any 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:55.120 tax income tax that you owe. So it's basically just 1:14:55.320 --> 1:14:59.560 a welfare program run by the Internal Revenue Service, and 1:15:00.040 --> 1:15:02.880 in this case, the benefits go the payments are going 1:15:02.920 --> 1:15:07.120 through these healthcare companies. Very costly. They want to make 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:10.200 it permanent. It would cost about forty one billion dollars 1:15:10.400 --> 1:15:14.040 a year for the next decades to do that, and 1:15:14.240 --> 1:15:16.719 we should just let them expire with a temporary program 1:15:17.320 --> 1:15:20.840 during an emergency. You know, Democrats had any had every 1:15:20.920 --> 1:15:24.519 opportunity to make the Superman into program when they first 1:15:24.560 --> 1:15:26.720 created it or when they extended it again in the 1:15:26.880 --> 1:15:29.600 Inflation Reduction Act that they knew was expensive. So they 1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:31.519 try to kick the can down the road so that 1:15:31.600 --> 1:15:33.840 they can have this debate all over again. 1:15:34.000 --> 1:15:36.680 Yeah, he's Daman Brady with the National Taxpayers Union. And 1:15:37.040 --> 1:15:40.320 as the government continues into starting tomorrow, second week of shutdown, 1:15:41.240 --> 1:15:43.240 Democrats just want a trillion and a half dollars in 1:15:43.320 --> 1:15:46.320 exchange for a seven week band aid that's going to 1:15:46.400 --> 1:15:48.080 keep the government open for seven more weeks so they 1:15:48.120 --> 1:15:50.400 can continue to negotiate and then shut it down probably 1:15:50.479 --> 1:15:52.680 seven weeks. This is going to add another trillion and 1:15:52.680 --> 1:15:54.679 a half dollars. This is about healthcare, it's about more 1:15:54.760 --> 1:15:59.560 subsidies for Obama era healthcare insurance plans. And I get it. 1:15:59.640 --> 1:16:02.200 People they are struggling. And you know, if that's you, 1:16:02.320 --> 1:16:03.840 you don't care where the money's coming from. You just 1:16:03.880 --> 1:16:06.120 want relief. I understand that. But this is part and 1:16:06.200 --> 1:16:08.599 pressle for the problem is that it's out of control. 1:16:08.760 --> 1:16:11.400 Much like you know, subsidized college or anything for that matter, 1:16:12.120 --> 1:16:14.160 it's just going to cause someone to make a profit. 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:16.920 And who loses are the taxpayers, the students in college 1:16:17.400 --> 1:16:20.160 when it comes to colleges, because they're in debt over 1:16:20.200 --> 1:16:23.040 their heads. In this case, it's bankrupting the federal government, 1:16:23.120 --> 1:16:26.280 which is all of us together collectively. And at the 1:16:26.400 --> 1:16:29.880 end of the day, what you're saying is the winners 1:16:29.880 --> 1:16:32.000 aren't the people. It's not the twenty two million people 1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:34.120 who need the healthcat it's insurance companies. They're going to 1:16:34.200 --> 1:16:36.240 continue to raise rates and we'll do this all over again. 1:16:36.439 --> 1:16:39.120 That's really what this is. This is taking federal tax 1:16:39.200 --> 1:16:41.639 payer money and giving it to health insurance brokers. 1:16:42.960 --> 1:16:47.439 It's also completely unfair, not just the taxpayers, but also 1:16:47.720 --> 1:16:51.519 to federal employees because a lot of them are getting 1:16:51.560 --> 1:16:55.120 furloughed to home and without pay. Some of them are 1:16:55.160 --> 1:16:58.200 still required to go into their office and work without pay. 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:02.680 It's a hit on the economy every day by the 1:17:02.760 --> 1:17:06.920 slower economic activity. And taxpayers deserve a functioning government that 1:17:07.040 --> 1:17:09.479 we have paid for. And now there's lots of ways 1:17:09.520 --> 1:17:12.519 we can reduce to the size of government. Uh you know, 1:17:12.600 --> 1:17:16.560 but it's eventually taxpayers will have to pay back the 1:17:17.200 --> 1:17:19.759 all the federal workers for the time of the government. 1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:22.160 So we're basically paying them for nothing. They get a 1:17:22.240 --> 1:17:25.120 vacation with a lot of stress because you don't know 1:17:25.280 --> 1:17:26.880 how long this is going to last. We have to 1:17:26.920 --> 1:17:30.400 worry about mortgage and rent and food and other bills 1:17:30.439 --> 1:17:34.160 that come through. So this is completely unfair to well 1:17:34.320 --> 1:17:37.200 the Democrats' main constituency, which are federal workers. 1:17:37.880 --> 1:17:40.719 My big concern over all this though, is what about 1:17:40.760 --> 1:17:44.200 Speaker Johnson and King Jefferyes. I mean, they still get 1:17:44.240 --> 1:17:45.960 health insurance, right, They're still getting paid. 1:17:46.040 --> 1:17:46.439 Is that true? 1:17:47.680 --> 1:17:47.880 Yeah? 1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:51.920 Because thank god, thank god for that. Well, you know, 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:53.280 I know, we can't do anyth when it comes to 1:17:53.360 --> 1:17:56.160 the pay though, Damien, But there's nothing constitutional about the 1:17:56.200 --> 1:17:59.120 healthcare benefits. What what if we somebody came in and said, hey, 1:17:59.200 --> 1:18:01.640 you know what if the government shutdown and people are 1:18:01.840 --> 1:18:03.280 that you don't get you don't get the perks, you 1:18:03.320 --> 1:18:05.000 don't get the benefit. Ina, you can get your salary, 1:18:05.040 --> 1:18:07.000 but you're we'd never have a shutdown, would we? 1:18:08.080 --> 1:18:08.120 No? 1:18:08.320 --> 1:18:10.840 Yeah, or you mandate the no work, no work, no 1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:13.840 pay is doing work and we you know, let's give 1:18:13.920 --> 1:18:16.360 taxpayers a break for that, you know. And there's also 1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:21.240 a very simple solution to this, Uh Senator Lankford and 1:18:21.640 --> 1:18:23.920 UH Jody Errington in the House that the chair of 1:18:23.920 --> 1:18:26.839 the Budget Committee have introduced a bill called the Preventing 1:18:26.880 --> 1:18:31.720 Government Shutdown ZACH, which would provide for continuing short term 1:18:31.920 --> 1:18:36.200 rolling resolutions to continue funding at the previous levels. And 1:18:36.320 --> 1:18:39.920 then Congress is mandated to stay here in Washington, d c. 1:18:40.640 --> 1:18:43.439 And hammer the stuff out until it gets done. And 1:18:43.600 --> 1:18:46.320 this way, uh, you know, taxpayers have pay for holl 1:18:46.360 --> 1:18:49.559 these services will continue to operate, Feral employees will get 1:18:49.600 --> 1:18:52.600 paid and do their job like we have this this 1:18:52.720 --> 1:18:54.960 furlough where they're going to get paid for you know, 1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:56.280 non productive days. 1:18:57.560 --> 1:19:00.320 Uh damien. The fact the matter is is or held 1:19:00.400 --> 1:19:03.160 hostage again for another week when it comes to government shutdowns, 1:19:03.200 --> 1:19:06.559 and really not because it's only eight percent of federal 1:19:06.640 --> 1:19:09.800 spending on our federal budget is being locked out right now. 1:19:09.960 --> 1:19:12.920 So it's ninety two percent of government is essential and 1:19:13.520 --> 1:19:16.479 present that to Republicans and I'll go, well, that's not 1:19:16.800 --> 1:19:19.240 so you're saying it ninety two percent of government is essential. 1:19:19.479 --> 1:19:21.880 The bottom line is only eight This only affects eight 1:19:21.960 --> 1:19:24.560 percent of the government. That's the craziest part about this, 1:19:25.080 --> 1:19:27.439 this theater that we're performing. When it comes to shutdown. 1:19:28.680 --> 1:19:31.519 Yeah right, it really should be known as as a 1:19:31.560 --> 1:19:35.960 partial shutdown because lots of activities do do continue, you know. 1:19:36.000 --> 1:19:37.600 But then you know, I just have to remember that 1:19:38.040 --> 1:19:40.599 if people are required to go to work and they're 1:19:40.640 --> 1:19:43.080 not getting paid, it it affects people in the military too. 1:19:43.280 --> 1:19:45.720 We'll see if this gets resolved by I think that 1:19:45.880 --> 1:19:49.400 October fifteenth is the next payday for members of the 1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:53.000 armed forces, So we'll see how this goes on. And 1:19:53.120 --> 1:19:57.640 you know, also air traffic controllers. The last shutdown went 1:19:57.720 --> 1:20:00.920 on for over thirty days and then towards the end, 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:04.599 air traffic controllers we're calling in sick. You know, we're 1:20:04.640 --> 1:20:07.240 coming up on a holiday season two where people want 1:20:07.280 --> 1:20:10.360 to travel for Thanksgiving or make plans for Christmas. So 1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:12.560 hopefully we'll see a resolution near of viditor. You know, 1:20:12.600 --> 1:20:16.759 it all depends on taxpayers. Yeah, telling their Democratic senators 1:20:16.840 --> 1:20:20.040 to let's get this done. Let's get things working again 1:20:20.200 --> 1:20:23.720 and fund the government and fund that's not in bed 1:20:24.000 --> 1:20:28.880 these forty one billion dollars per year problematic subsidies into 1:20:28.920 --> 1:20:30.680 the cederal budget. Let's let's unexpire. 1:20:30.920 --> 1:20:31.120 Yeah. 1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:33.680 That's the sad part about this is despite Obamacare and 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:36.599 we're fighting, the number of uninsured Americans is rising, despite 1:20:36.640 --> 1:20:40.080 the subsidies. That's what we're having. Healthcare is becoming more 1:20:40.240 --> 1:20:42.320 rare and rare and rare. The more we fight about 1:20:42.360 --> 1:20:43.439 this instead of coming up with a. 1:20:43.439 --> 1:20:47.360 Solution, and subsidy is not the way to do it. 1:20:47.439 --> 1:20:51.360 You need to find incentives for healthcare providers to be 1:20:51.439 --> 1:20:52.559 able to control costs. 1:20:54.000 --> 1:20:56.160 Well, that's easier said than done. One of the things 1:20:56.160 --> 1:20:58.320 starting around, of course, is waste, fraud and abuse. How 1:20:58.400 --> 1:20:59.639 much is there, where's it coming from? 1:21:01.120 --> 1:21:03.880 Well, that's another thing. The Democrats want to roll back 1:21:04.120 --> 1:21:08.240 some of the work requirements that were passed in the 1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:13.160 One Big Beautiful Bill Act for Medicare and supplemental nutrition programs. 1:21:13.160 --> 1:21:16.559 So that's that's another thing that they're fighting for as well. Uh, Yeah, 1:21:16.560 --> 1:21:17.840 a lot, a lot of waste, A lot of people 1:21:17.920 --> 1:21:20.160 could be working, a lot of people could be paying 1:21:20.200 --> 1:21:23.600 for their own insurance with that's the big subsidy from taxpayers. 1:21:23.960 --> 1:21:25.800 Yeah, it's all well and good, but it's it's hard 1:21:25.840 --> 1:21:27.560 to find a job these days. This is in the 1:21:27.640 --> 1:21:30.160 economy of five years ago. That's the other factor. 1:21:31.240 --> 1:21:36.280 Well, the unemployment rates are are still relatively low, you know. 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:40.200 That's we also have the tax law that was just 1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:42.439 passed a lot to let people keep more of their money, 1:21:43.400 --> 1:21:46.479 creates incentive for investments. So you know, once we get 1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:50.960 things operating again, people will be able to go out 1:21:51.000 --> 1:21:55.760 and find work and you know, opportunities to experience small 1:21:55.800 --> 1:21:59.200 businesses have Uh, there's lots of opportunities with the tax. 1:21:59.320 --> 1:22:00.640 And that's that's a I mean, if you work for 1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:03.519 a big company and you have health care benefits, you know, 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:06.719 that's solid, that's great, But we know that the engine 1:22:06.720 --> 1:22:08.960 that drives American economy are small businesses. And if you 1:22:09.120 --> 1:22:12.680 employ less than two hundred people, chances are it's very 1:22:12.760 --> 1:22:14.599 rare for you to be able to offer healthcare benefits 1:22:14.680 --> 1:22:16.680 getting exceedingly rare, so you could work you know, a 1:22:16.720 --> 1:22:19.920 couple two or three jobs and still not have healthcare coverage. 1:22:19.960 --> 1:22:20.559 That's the problem. 1:22:21.760 --> 1:22:25.320 Yeah, and we also need to get energy costs under control. 1:22:25.400 --> 1:22:29.280 We have all these years where we're incentivising everything to 1:22:29.400 --> 1:22:32.080 go electric, and now we also have the development of 1:22:32.320 --> 1:22:36.519 the alternative intelligence industry and all the rise of data centers. 1:22:36.640 --> 1:22:41.760 Now there's extreme demand for electricity. We need to have 1:22:41.920 --> 1:22:44.280 all energy options on the table. And so that's one 1:22:44.320 --> 1:22:47.800 good thing that's going on with lots of deregulation to 1:22:48.520 --> 1:22:51.840 reduce a lot of the burdens on energy companies and 1:22:52.040 --> 1:22:53.000 on small businesses. 1:22:53.840 --> 1:22:56.880 He is Demian Brady, National textpay As Union. I assume 1:22:56.960 --> 1:22:58.760 it's not going to go longer than thirty five days, 1:22:58.800 --> 1:23:00.960 which is our record for shut downs. Let's be something 1:23:01.000 --> 1:23:02.640 in the next couple of weeks, and then we'll just 1:23:02.720 --> 1:23:04.720 kick the can down the road and I'll probably we'll 1:23:04.760 --> 1:23:07.200 have the twenty second government shutdown in the modern air. 1:23:08.880 --> 1:23:12.720 Yeah, let's let's prevent that from happening. Let's pass the 1:23:12.840 --> 1:23:16.720 Prevent Government Shutdowns Act, so this way we don't have 1:23:16.840 --> 1:23:21.000 to worry about this ridiculous situation ever happening. Again, taxpayers 1:23:21.000 --> 1:23:24.040 deserve a functioning government, and you know we and we 1:23:24.080 --> 1:23:27.799 shouldn't be having a shutdown with plans that are designed 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:32.200 to increase the federal debt. We need to be looking 1:23:32.280 --> 1:23:35.639 for ways to control the size of government, not create 1:23:35.760 --> 1:23:41.040 permanent new subsidies of a very problematic, troubled, and extensive program. 1:23:41.360 --> 1:23:43.920 Looking out for you. It's Damian Brady over at National 1:23:44.120 --> 1:23:46.680 Taxpayers Union and to you. Thanks again. I appreciate the time. 1:23:47.920 --> 1:23:48.360 Thank you, sir. 1:23:48.439 --> 1:23:49.160 Have a great day, sir. 1:23:49.960 --> 1:23:53.000 It's a Scott's Loan show on seven hundred WLW. It's 1:23:53.280 --> 1:23:55.479 pretty easy to figure out just taking these these complex 1:23:55.520 --> 1:23:57.320 things on the shutdown. What's it about. Well, it's about 1:23:57.320 --> 1:24:00.040 the one issue that Democrats are strong on healthcare. So 1:24:00.160 --> 1:24:03.320 we'll make that. We'll plant that flag and go shutting 1:24:03.360 --> 1:24:05.519 down the government to get you more health care, to 1:24:05.600 --> 1:24:07.600 save your health care, which is a huge issue. I 1:24:07.680 --> 1:24:09.759 get it. I'm not saying it's not necessary. 1:24:09.800 --> 1:24:10.000 It is. 1:24:10.120 --> 1:24:12.919 We all need it and our system is broken. That's 1:24:13.000 --> 1:24:16.479 not debatable, that's fact. What we can debate is whether 1:24:16.560 --> 1:24:18.879 or not this is a reasonable thing to do, considering 1:24:18.920 --> 1:24:20.760 it's costing US a trillion and a half dollars, a 1:24:20.800 --> 1:24:24.879 well over a trillion dollars to extend have a continuing 1:24:24.920 --> 1:24:27.479 resolutions basically says, well, we don't have a budget. We're 1:24:27.520 --> 1:24:29.559 just going to continue to discuss it in seven weeks. 1:24:29.600 --> 1:24:32.840 It's insane and these way to look at it a 1:24:32.920 --> 1:24:36.320 subsidy much like college. What happened with a college bubble? Well, 1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:39.479 everyone goes to college. Government backs all the student loans. 1:24:40.040 --> 1:24:42.320 You can take out an unsecured loan. You don't have 1:24:42.400 --> 1:24:44.439 to have anything to back up the money. You go 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:46.920 to college. Maybe you get a four or five year degree. 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:50.519 Maybe you do, but what about a third or more don't, 1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:52.600 And you still have to pay that money back. And 1:24:52.680 --> 1:24:55.400 we can go after future earnings. We can garnish your wages, 1:24:55.479 --> 1:24:57.200 we can go after social security, we can make your 1:24:57.240 --> 1:24:59.160 life a living hell till you make us whole. What 1:24:59.280 --> 1:25:01.799 a shakedown? Yeah yeah, you gotta go to college otherwise 1:25:01.960 --> 1:25:04.559 your life's gonna suck. Okay, I went. My life still 1:25:04.640 --> 1:25:07.479 sucks now. Now I got to pay back fifty thousand 1:25:07.479 --> 1:25:10.160 dollars one hundred thousand student loans, even though the graduate 1:25:10.400 --> 1:25:13.240 our burdened with the loans, and who benefits goes back 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:16.640 to well, the federal government and universities is continue to 1:25:16.720 --> 1:25:21.520 raise tuition, or they did anyway, simply because they're being subsidized. 1:25:22.360 --> 1:25:25.160 And it's the same thing in healthcare. Subsidize more health care, 1:25:25.520 --> 1:25:28.360 healthcare casts go up for the rest of us. The 1:25:28.400 --> 1:25:30.559 easiest way to fix college you know here, like someone 1:25:30.640 --> 1:25:33.599 like Willie, Like when he went to college, he had 1:25:33.640 --> 1:25:35.519 a house, he had a wife, he went on vacation, 1:25:36.320 --> 1:25:38.360 he had a car, he had money, and he was 1:25:38.400 --> 1:25:40.280 able to pay for school. How the hell are you 1:25:40.280 --> 1:25:43.439 going to do that today? You can because subsidy has 1:25:43.520 --> 1:25:46.960 driven the money up. It's artificial money, and when the 1:25:47.000 --> 1:25:48.920 bell rings, you have to pay it back. Musical chairs 1:25:49.680 --> 1:25:53.160 with health care, same thing we subsidize, subsidized, subsidize. If 1:25:53.200 --> 1:25:55.080 we just said, okay, that's it, your employer can no 1:25:55.200 --> 1:25:57.519 longer provide insurance for you, you got to buy it 1:25:57.600 --> 1:25:59.120 in the free market, like you do with their house, 1:25:59.200 --> 1:26:02.360 with your car, with life insurance, all that stuff. We'd 1:26:02.400 --> 1:26:04.479 have enough plenty of money left over to be able 1:26:04.520 --> 1:26:06.000 to take care of the indigen and the people who 1:26:06.040 --> 1:26:09.360 truly need it and still save money and actually just 1:26:09.400 --> 1:26:12.040 pay for healthcare out of pocket instead of having it subsidized. 1:26:13.520 --> 1:26:16.639 But again, this is why people like me don't get elected, 1:26:19.479 --> 1:26:21.719 because you don't have to carve stuff out to get elected. 1:26:22.080 --> 1:26:26.000 You just make it fair. Saloni's seven hundred WW. Time 1:26:26.160 --> 1:26:26.919 to talk. 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:29.640 About money, how to make it, how to keep it, 1:26:30.040 --> 1:26:36.680 and how to keep others off your stack. This is 1:26:36.800 --> 1:26:38.759 all Worth Advice with Andy Shaeffer. 1:26:39.439 --> 1:26:43.360 It is Andy Shaeffer and all with Financial Simply money 1:26:43.400 --> 1:26:45.920 showers at six o'clock on fifty five, k Se jumps 1:26:45.920 --> 1:26:48.559 in Tuesday morning for you like a little market recap. 1:26:48.600 --> 1:26:50.280 As he headed into the lunchhower, what's up, buddy, It's 1:26:50.280 --> 1:26:52.040 been a while. Good to be back with you. How's things, 1:26:52.080 --> 1:26:52.479 how's life? 1:26:52.840 --> 1:26:55.160 Yeah, everything's great. Looking forward to the week, getting into it. 1:26:55.320 --> 1:26:57.640 Good, good good. I did want to bring this up. 1:26:57.640 --> 1:27:00.920 I know the Fifth Third has acquired America. Co America 1:27:01.040 --> 1:27:03.760 is huge ten point nine billion dollars. They just I 1:27:03.800 --> 1:27:05.200 don't know if they put that on the credit card 1:27:05.320 --> 1:27:07.760 or what. I'm not quite sure, but this is the 1:27:07.960 --> 1:27:11.280 ninth largest US bank merger and expands fifth thirds. I 1:27:11.360 --> 1:27:14.320 know co America is pretty big up north across Michigan 1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:16.680 and the like to a pretty big banking outfit that 1:27:16.760 --> 1:27:19.479 they have now acquired that's going to close maybe first 1:27:19.560 --> 1:27:21.760 quarter of next year. What does that mean that those 1:27:21.800 --> 1:27:23.599 of us in Cincinnati the local economy and those who 1:27:23.600 --> 1:27:24.280 work for Fifth Third. 1:27:24.600 --> 1:27:26.560 Yeah, I think it's good. You know, co America is 1:27:26.600 --> 1:27:28.720 a big bank. They're based out of Dallas, Texas. I 1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:31.519 remember when I went to an advisor conference down there 1:27:31.560 --> 1:27:34.120 in the spring where there was a big presence of Comerica, 1:27:35.360 --> 1:27:36.639 you know, and I think this is a good deal. 1:27:36.880 --> 1:27:39.439 It was largely a stock deal worth ten point nine 1:27:39.520 --> 1:27:42.599 billion dollars. And what we're seeing is like this puts 1:27:43.120 --> 1:27:45.240 Fifth Third in the position to be the ninth largest 1:27:45.280 --> 1:27:48.679 bank and the United States. So this is a strategic move. 1:27:48.840 --> 1:27:51.720 We're starting to see the cost of a lot of 1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:56.000 compliance regulatory issues that are hitting a lot of the 1:27:56.040 --> 1:27:58.160 smaller banks that we're starting to see a lot of mergers. 1:27:58.840 --> 1:28:01.840 This really solidified Fifth Third Bank as a number two 1:28:02.360 --> 1:28:05.320 position in the core Midwest markets. So this is a 1:28:05.360 --> 1:28:09.439 big deal for not only the local economy but also nationally. 1:28:09.479 --> 1:28:11.240 And you're starting to see more trends where banks are 1:28:11.280 --> 1:28:13.880 starting to consolidate, and I think the Third saw an 1:28:13.920 --> 1:28:15.000 opportunity and took it here. 1:28:15.240 --> 1:28:17.400 When you do mergers, though, that means hey, everything's to 1:28:17.439 --> 1:28:19.760 get the memo. Everything's great, We're gonna need it's going 1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:22.840 to be wonderful for everyone, and then in a few weeks, 1:28:22.880 --> 1:28:25.200 if not months, that's when the layoffs start. How bad 1:28:25.240 --> 1:28:26.439 the cuts you think coming down. 1:28:26.920 --> 1:28:28.479 I don't think there's going to be a lot of 1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:30.600 layoffs in this situation, but you never know. You know, 1:28:30.640 --> 1:28:32.479 a lot of times these mergers take a long time 1:28:32.520 --> 1:28:35.960 to develop. I remember when Charles Schwab bought TDM Error Trade, 1:28:36.000 --> 1:28:39.080 and it took about three years before you know, all 1:28:39.160 --> 1:28:41.320 the dust settled, you know, between both of them, and 1:28:41.400 --> 1:28:45.439 you didn't even get access to really a Schwab website 1:28:45.439 --> 1:28:48.400 if you were a TDOM Error Trade investor in three 1:28:48.439 --> 1:28:51.000 years away. So this can take some time. We have 1:28:51.080 --> 1:28:53.479 to see how it kind of weave through, you know, 1:28:53.560 --> 1:28:55.680 the economy and as far as payroll and things like 1:28:55.760 --> 1:28:58.439 that are concerned. But it does kind of strike a 1:28:58.520 --> 1:29:01.960 balance between rewarding the come America's shareholders. There's a seventeen 1:29:02.000 --> 1:29:06.360 percent premium on the buy and not hurting the so 1:29:06.520 --> 1:29:09.240 there's there was a zero tangible book value dilution there, 1:29:09.600 --> 1:29:11.439 and so that's good all the way around for not 1:29:11.560 --> 1:29:14.919 only fifth third employees investors, but also uh CA America 1:29:15.160 --> 1:29:16.120 employees and investors. 1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:19.240 Yeah, six to nine months, that's when the x falls. Anyway, 1:29:21.400 --> 1:29:24.439 long story, yeah, about six to nine months, positive thoughts, 1:29:24.760 --> 1:29:27.040 throwing people out the window. You're good, You're good for 1:29:27.080 --> 1:29:28.800 a while. And I'm in a little middle of next year. 1:29:29.200 --> 1:29:31.439 Let's get the latest on the government shutdown. Oh we're 1:29:31.520 --> 1:29:34.400 so close to a deally. Oh my god. The political 1:29:34.520 --> 1:29:37.439 theater is it's maddening. And this is why. You know, 1:29:37.520 --> 1:29:39.679 someone I was talking to gonother to're wringing their hands 1:29:39.680 --> 1:29:41.200 about the government shutdown, like, do you work for the 1:29:41.240 --> 1:29:42.599 government now? Are you going to get paid? 1:29:42.640 --> 1:29:42.800 Well? 1:29:42.880 --> 1:29:46.080 Yeah, but but but I just like, look just look 1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:47.840 at Wall Street. All you need to know about this 1:29:47.920 --> 1:29:50.560 shutdown is look at Wall Street. Wall Street seems to 1:29:50.640 --> 1:29:53.840 think it's fine because you all know how to make 1:29:53.920 --> 1:29:55.400 money whether it's red or blue. 1:29:56.600 --> 1:29:58.760 Yeah, we seem to be largely brushing it off from 1:29:58.760 --> 1:30:01.439 an investor standpoint you. Last night the Senate voted fifty 1:30:01.439 --> 1:30:04.559 two to forty two against the House bill needs sixty 1:30:04.680 --> 1:30:07.880 votes to advance. So this is the fifth Senate no vote, 1:30:08.360 --> 1:30:11.840 this resolution to fund the government basically through November twenty first. 1:30:11.920 --> 1:30:14.720 And so you know, with this shutdown, you say, okay, well, 1:30:14.880 --> 1:30:16.760 you know what can potentially happen. I think One of 1:30:16.840 --> 1:30:19.679 the different things about this one is that Trump's White 1:30:19.680 --> 1:30:22.519 House of Office Management and Budget has indicated that agencies 1:30:22.640 --> 1:30:25.200 could pursue mass layoffs. I don't think it's going to 1:30:25.240 --> 1:30:27.920 get to that point. But I think most importantly the 1:30:28.000 --> 1:30:30.639 effects of this is the type of data investors will 1:30:30.720 --> 1:30:33.640 receive moving forward. You know, on Friday, we were not 1:30:33.760 --> 1:30:37.400 able to get the jobs report, which was very significant 1:30:37.479 --> 1:30:40.280 because the FED bases a lot of decisions on whether 1:30:40.400 --> 1:30:43.120 to cut rates or raise rates based on the jobs report. 1:30:43.240 --> 1:30:47.080 And if this continues on, you know, we might not 1:30:47.200 --> 1:30:50.160 get a number of other data. The September CPI will 1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:53.320 be withheld, the labor survey will be disrupted, and the 1:30:53.360 --> 1:30:55.719 FED is going to meet again at the end of October. 1:30:55.920 --> 1:30:57.719 And if they don't have a lot of this data, 1:30:58.360 --> 1:31:00.680 they're kind of operating in the dark some degree. Now, 1:31:00.800 --> 1:31:04.560 there are some other indicators that exist, but they're not 1:31:04.680 --> 1:31:07.640 really the sub any substitute for the major readings that 1:31:07.760 --> 1:31:11.240 we have. And so while it looked, you know, positive 1:31:11.280 --> 1:31:13.080 that we would see a rick cut in October, it's 1:31:13.120 --> 1:31:15.240 hard to say now. And I think right now it 1:31:15.360 --> 1:31:20.439 has more to do with momentum other indicators, and they 1:31:20.520 --> 1:31:24.439 look at the earnings report a little bit more succinctly 1:31:24.600 --> 1:31:26.400 to determine what they're going to do in October. But 1:31:26.479 --> 1:31:28.679 right now the markets are expecting a cut in October, 1:31:28.920 --> 1:31:30.960 and if we don't get this data, that becomes a 1:31:31.080 --> 1:31:32.040 little bit more cloudy. 1:31:32.920 --> 1:31:35.600 So there is then leverage on Republicans because you know, 1:31:35.680 --> 1:31:37.640 we've seen this administration come in and say, well, the 1:31:37.720 --> 1:31:39.320 numbers are wrong, we do them or fire the people 1:31:39.360 --> 1:31:41.640 in charge of the numbers. We don't know if the 1:31:41.680 --> 1:31:43.760 numbers is going to be good or bad, but that 1:31:44.600 --> 1:31:46.880 that's a foregone conclusion. If you continue to kick the 1:31:46.920 --> 1:31:48.479 can down the road, it's like it kind of helps them, 1:31:48.520 --> 1:31:51.760 but it doesn't simply because what winds up occurring is 1:31:51.880 --> 1:31:53.920 now all of a sudden, the interest rate cuts that 1:31:54.040 --> 1:31:56.760 you need it may not happen as a result of this. 1:31:56.880 --> 1:31:59.200 That'll be an interesting fight if it comes down to 1:31:59.240 --> 1:31:59.800 that in the future. 1:32:00.080 --> 1:32:01.719 Yeah, and I think they're you know, both the Democrats 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:04.120 and Republicans are trying to position themselves in a way 1:32:04.160 --> 1:32:06.519 of being the sympathetic, sympathetic figure. You know, from a 1:32:06.920 --> 1:32:09.560 Republican standpoint, they're saying, you know, to the Democrats, you know, 1:32:10.000 --> 1:32:13.519 they're adding, you know, some additional you know, Obamacare subsidies 1:32:13.560 --> 1:32:15.080 and things like that that weren't in the build before. 1:32:15.160 --> 1:32:17.640 And the Republicans were saying, hey, alls we wanted was 1:32:17.720 --> 1:32:20.160 just to continue this on until November twenty first, where 1:32:20.200 --> 1:32:22.599 we can negotiate a little bit more. From the Democrat side, 1:32:22.600 --> 1:32:25.240 they could say, hey, the Republicans are holding this up 1:32:25.680 --> 1:32:28.639 by not negotiating with us now, and that could cause 1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:33.320 some layoffs in certain government entities, maybe some furloughs, maybe 1:32:33.360 --> 1:32:35.479 some loss of pay for the time being. And so 1:32:35.720 --> 1:32:38.160 right now, I think it's more about both parties trying 1:32:38.200 --> 1:32:42.599 to position themselves as the sympathetic figure in this debate. 1:32:42.760 --> 1:32:44.559 All right, So we did see some numbers come out 1:32:44.600 --> 1:32:47.080 ahead of the shutdown, and that is kind of a 1:32:47.120 --> 1:32:49.080 glimpse of what might be going on. What might be 1:32:49.160 --> 1:32:50.040 going on, Andy. 1:32:49.800 --> 1:32:54.280 Shafer, Well, we've received some data. We received some jobs 1:32:54.400 --> 1:32:56.680 number of the Jolt survey, which we like to call 1:32:56.760 --> 1:32:59.280 the take this job and shove it survey, which basically 1:32:59.800 --> 1:33:03.160 is the survey where if you currently have a job, 1:33:03.600 --> 1:33:07.080 it's when somebody is actually looking for another job so 1:33:07.160 --> 1:33:09.320 they feel good about the opportunity there. So there was 1:33:09.400 --> 1:33:12.280 a little bit of an increase in openings there. However, 1:33:12.320 --> 1:33:15.320 we saw the quick rate fall to one point, suggests 1:33:15.360 --> 1:33:18.960 that employers are less confident about our employees are less 1:33:18.960 --> 1:33:21.160 confident about finding work if they quit, and we've seen 1:33:21.200 --> 1:33:23.280 that bear out with a lot of the other data. Again, 1:33:23.400 --> 1:33:25.880 if you have a job right now, it's likely that 1:33:26.000 --> 1:33:27.920 you will continue to keep your job. But if you 1:33:28.000 --> 1:33:30.640 don't have a job, it's becoming harder and harder to 1:33:30.720 --> 1:33:31.800 find a job at this point. 1:33:32.479 --> 1:33:36.200 Okay, does that then indicate anything relative to the labor market. 1:33:36.240 --> 1:33:37.040 It's starting to cool off. 1:33:37.439 --> 1:33:39.360 Yeah, it is starting to cool off. So the labor 1:33:39.439 --> 1:33:42.320 market market's kind of losing some steam right now. And 1:33:42.439 --> 1:33:44.880 we are seeing the Institute for Supply Management where they 1:33:45.080 --> 1:33:48.920 have the manufacturing survey and also the services survey. Both 1:33:48.960 --> 1:33:52.120 of those are hovering around fifty, which is neutral. We 1:33:52.240 --> 1:33:55.080 were previously an expansion and so we are seeing some 1:33:55.960 --> 1:34:00.919 cooling off now. Growth overall is still it's not collapsing, 1:34:01.000 --> 1:34:05.120 it's still remaining positive, but the momentent is signally fading. 1:34:05.479 --> 1:34:07.800 It's not recession, but it feels like and if you 1:34:07.880 --> 1:34:10.240 have a job, hold on to it because despite what 1:34:10.320 --> 1:34:14.280 the unemployment rate is right now, it's difficult from what 1:34:14.360 --> 1:34:16.200 I understand, and the numbers have backed it up to 1:34:16.240 --> 1:34:16.720 get a job. 1:34:17.280 --> 1:34:18.560 Yeah, And I think a lot of that has to 1:34:18.600 --> 1:34:20.400 do with the uncertainty that's still out there. We still 1:34:20.439 --> 1:34:22.760 see the impact of tariffs. We don't really know how 1:34:22.800 --> 1:34:24.639 that's going to shake out. A lot of business leaders 1:34:24.720 --> 1:34:26.880 right now or kind of holding the cards that they 1:34:27.000 --> 1:34:30.360 have and not making any rash decisions as far as 1:34:30.479 --> 1:34:32.840 adding numbers or subtracting numbers. And it's more of a 1:34:32.920 --> 1:34:35.479 kind of a wait and see approach for business owners 1:34:35.520 --> 1:34:37.280 and leadership within the business community. 1:34:37.600 --> 1:34:39.920 All right, So relative to tariffs, I think it's a 1:34:39.920 --> 1:34:43.439 good time to maybe kick the tires on that. I 1:34:43.560 --> 1:34:46.160 know that the federal government is certainly raking a lot 1:34:46.200 --> 1:34:47.920 of money, a lot more money than I have in 1:34:47.960 --> 1:34:49.360 the past, But what does that mean to the rest 1:34:49.360 --> 1:34:50.840 of us? What does that mean if I have a small, 1:34:50.920 --> 1:34:51.799 medium sized business. 1:34:52.479 --> 1:34:54.280 Yeah, well, I think what you're seeing right now is 1:34:54.320 --> 1:34:56.400 that the costs are starting to increase. And you know, 1:34:56.479 --> 1:34:58.800 once again, I think with tariffs, there's a timeline on 1:34:58.880 --> 1:35:01.960 this long as inflation has been under control and it 1:35:02.040 --> 1:35:03.080 has been fairly sticky. 1:35:03.120 --> 1:35:04.479 We're in the high twos at this point. 1:35:04.760 --> 1:35:07.759 Again, the fedest preferred inflation measures too, but the Federal 1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:10.680 Reserve has said, hey, you know, we're not you know, 1:35:10.800 --> 1:35:12.960 targeting two percent as a be all, end all. As 1:35:13.040 --> 1:35:15.960 long as we feel like it's somewhat under control, we're. 1:35:15.880 --> 1:35:18.000 Comfortable with that. Well, it's starting to tick up a 1:35:18.040 --> 1:35:18.400 little bit. 1:35:18.520 --> 1:35:20.960 The more that these tariff conversations continue to go on, 1:35:21.840 --> 1:35:24.720 the more that the cost of goods and supply are 1:35:24.800 --> 1:35:27.200 going to be probably passed on to the consumer. We've 1:35:27.240 --> 1:35:30.519 seen that with beef prices most recently. There's a number 1:35:30.560 --> 1:35:33.320 of reasons why we've seen beef prices hit a record highs. 1:35:33.960 --> 1:35:36.639 We've seen a nationwide cattle inventory drop to its lower 1:35:36.840 --> 1:35:39.320 levels in seventy years. Part of that has to do 1:35:39.439 --> 1:35:41.960 with drought that we've had over the last few years, 1:35:42.160 --> 1:35:43.960 but a lot of that has to do with the 1:35:44.040 --> 1:35:47.840 fact that we're seeing the costs of farmers, whether it's 1:35:48.520 --> 1:35:51.000 you know, the feed that they have or overhead, and that's. 1:35:50.880 --> 1:35:53.960 Kind of continue to increase the cost onto the consumer. 1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:57.759 The We have a beef tariff on Brazil that's facing 1:35:57.920 --> 1:36:01.920 seventy six percent tariffs, and other beef producing countries are 1:36:01.920 --> 1:36:04.320 also facing terrafts like that, So you know, we're seeing 1:36:04.360 --> 1:36:06.960 it succinctly within you know, the cost of beef, and 1:36:07.000 --> 1:36:10.120 we're seeing that other places as well. You're familiar with, 1:36:10.280 --> 1:36:13.080 you know, cost of housing and development there, Scott, and 1:36:13.200 --> 1:36:15.680 so you know, I think at some point we have 1:36:15.840 --> 1:36:18.880 to start knocking down big deals with our biggest trading partners. 1:36:19.200 --> 1:36:19.800 All right on it. 1:36:19.920 --> 1:36:21.400 You know, the cost of beef. I think it was 1:36:21.479 --> 1:36:24.360 like a well above six dollars a pound, between six 1:36:24.439 --> 1:36:26.320 and seven dollars a pound de penaardy right now, which 1:36:26.360 --> 1:36:29.800 is absolutely insane. Yeah, as far as that costs, and 1:36:29.840 --> 1:36:32.640 it's killing a lot of American family well and and 1:36:32.720 --> 1:36:35.200 again I think you know, with this drought is particularly 1:36:35.240 --> 1:36:36.880 in the Midwest. You know what happens if you're a 1:36:37.000 --> 1:36:39.519 farmer and you start to see a drought on the horizon, 1:36:39.560 --> 1:36:41.040 a lot of times you're gonna you're gonna have to 1:36:41.080 --> 1:36:44.439 go ahead and harvest those cows, right otherwise it's just 1:36:44.560 --> 1:36:46.519 not going to be good beef. And so you know 1:36:47.000 --> 1:36:50.439 that inventory was depleted a few years ago because of 1:36:50.520 --> 1:36:52.080 the drought that we were having, and they're having a 1:36:52.120 --> 1:36:54.479 hard time ratcheting up, you know. 1:36:54.520 --> 1:36:57.000 Their production to meet demand. We're starting to see a 1:36:57.080 --> 1:37:00.519 higher demand for beef whether it's steaks, ground beef, whatever 1:37:00.600 --> 1:37:04.000 it is. I think there's less of you know, negative 1:37:04.000 --> 1:37:06.200 connotne to beef consumption. 1:37:06.560 --> 1:37:07.599 You're starting to see a lot. 1:37:07.479 --> 1:37:09.559 Of health experts saying that, hey, it is pretty healthy 1:37:09.560 --> 1:37:11.639 as long as you prepare it right. You didn't moderation 1:37:11.760 --> 1:37:14.160 and things like that. And furthermore, there's been a lot 1:37:14.200 --> 1:37:18.640 of illnesses with cattle from Mexico, and the Department of 1:37:18.680 --> 1:37:21.880 Agriculture in May basically said, hey, we're going to take 1:37:21.880 --> 1:37:24.320 a look at this because there's the screwworm epidemic there, 1:37:24.400 --> 1:37:27.120 which is a flesh eating parasite, and it affects that 1:37:27.320 --> 1:37:30.000 cattle that's closer to the US border where we could 1:37:30.040 --> 1:37:33.720 get additional supply and that's been cut off as well. 1:37:33.800 --> 1:37:35.400 So there's a lot of things that play here. I 1:37:35.479 --> 1:37:36.400 think this beat. 1:37:36.479 --> 1:37:38.479 These beef prices could go well and the next year 1:37:38.520 --> 1:37:41.880 as far as an elevated cost to the consumer, but 1:37:42.040 --> 1:37:44.120 hopefully we'll be able to figure it out in years 1:37:44.160 --> 1:37:44.599 to complady. 1:37:44.640 --> 1:37:47.840 And you you've learned a new semi sort of curse word. 1:37:47.880 --> 1:37:50.080 They can call people a screwworm. Now that's a new 1:37:50.800 --> 1:37:53.000 throw that around the office place. Hey, y a screwworm. 1:37:53.920 --> 1:37:57.439 I don't know if HR would like that. I'm not sure. Well, yeah, 1:37:57.640 --> 1:37:59.599 that's on the look in the mirror anyway. He's Andy 1:37:59.640 --> 1:38:02.280 Schaeffer Worth Financial. And bring this up too, because it's 1:38:02.280 --> 1:38:04.240 not like we're going to quit eating burgers in ground 1:38:04.280 --> 1:38:06.360 beef and stuff like that. And I note that too, 1:38:06.479 --> 1:38:09.160 because new studies come out said, Ohio, oh hi, we're 1:38:09.160 --> 1:38:11.599 in the top ten as far as credit card debt 1:38:11.720 --> 1:38:14.719 increase goes. We're number eight in the country. Average Ohio 1:38:15.000 --> 1:38:20.280 households owns what about nine three and fifty dollars in 1:38:20.320 --> 1:38:21.000 credit card debt. 1:38:22.000 --> 1:38:24.120 Yeah, and think about it from a family point of view. 1:38:24.320 --> 1:38:26.519 You know, not everybody has a stake every month. You 1:38:26.560 --> 1:38:29.519 know that can be costly, but most families, if you're 1:38:29.560 --> 1:38:31.519 trying to be economical, use a lot of ground beef. 1:38:31.560 --> 1:38:33.160 You can use it for cast roles, you can use 1:38:33.160 --> 1:38:35.759 it for chili, and it's way to feed a large 1:38:35.800 --> 1:38:38.200 number of people within your family. And so that's really 1:38:38.280 --> 1:38:40.439 the cost that I think is going to hurt families 1:38:40.479 --> 1:38:43.639 the most. And you're starting to see, you know, credit 1:38:43.720 --> 1:38:46.759 card debt continue to rise, You're starting to see savings dwindle. 1:38:47.040 --> 1:38:49.040 You know, most people have been trying to build up 1:38:49.040 --> 1:38:51.960 their savings quite a bit because of the uncertainty of tears. Well, 1:38:52.360 --> 1:38:54.600 as this continues to play out and costs continue to 1:38:54.640 --> 1:38:57.240 get passed on to the consumer, those savings start to 1:38:57.320 --> 1:38:59.599 become less and less and the credit card debt continues 1:38:59.600 --> 1:39:02.800 to rise. And what we've also seen, particularly in Cincinnati, 1:39:02.920 --> 1:39:05.760 is that it's becoming you know, Cincinnati is one of 1:39:05.920 --> 1:39:08.120 becoming one of the more expensive cities to live in 1:39:09.080 --> 1:39:12.839 over the last six months to a year, specifically within housing, 1:39:13.120 --> 1:39:15.280 you know, whether it's the cost of buying a house 1:39:15.400 --> 1:39:16.280 or whether it's rents. 1:39:16.960 --> 1:39:18.320 It's not easy out there right now. 1:39:18.360 --> 1:39:20.120 And hopefully we'll be able to get some relief with 1:39:20.200 --> 1:39:22.680 an interest rate cut, but again without this data and 1:39:22.760 --> 1:39:24.560 the government shutdown, it's hard to say whether we do 1:39:24.640 --> 1:39:25.400 get one or October. 1:39:25.400 --> 1:39:26.679 A lot of people are and I think the overall 1:39:26.680 --> 1:39:31.280 thing is just a general uneas still correct that the thousand. 1:39:30.760 --> 1:39:31.800 I think so, yeah. 1:39:31.840 --> 1:39:33.599 I mean most of the meetings that I have with clients, 1:39:33.640 --> 1:39:36.639 it's it's more about uncertainty. What should I do to prepare? 1:39:36.920 --> 1:39:39.439 Is this something that can continue on? Are we going 1:39:39.520 --> 1:39:42.960 to continue to see prices increase? If they're business owners, 1:39:43.040 --> 1:39:46.519 they're worried about the productivity of their of their company 1:39:46.560 --> 1:39:47.800 and the profitability of their company. 1:39:47.800 --> 1:39:49.599 I have a young couple coming in today. 1:39:50.439 --> 1:39:52.799 They're both government workers, and I know what the conversation 1:39:53.000 --> 1:39:54.600 is going to be is, how do we prepare what 1:39:54.720 --> 1:39:57.360 happens if I do get furloughed, and what should. 1:39:57.080 --> 1:39:57.880 Our next steps be. 1:39:58.040 --> 1:40:00.679 So, you know, regardless of what type of a stage 1:40:00.720 --> 1:40:02.560 of life you're in, or what kind of business you're in, 1:40:02.680 --> 1:40:04.400 or what kind of job you have, there's a lot 1:40:04.439 --> 1:40:06.200 of uneasiness with everybody right now. 1:40:06.360 --> 1:40:08.320 Yeah, no doubt about the only person who seemingly doesn't 1:40:08.320 --> 1:40:09.519 have a care in the world's Taylor Swift. 1:40:10.800 --> 1:40:13.240 Yeah. Yeah, she probably had a new album come out. 1:40:13.280 --> 1:40:14.160 I guess the other night. 1:40:14.400 --> 1:40:16.080 Well that's how out of touch you are with the 1:40:16.160 --> 1:40:19.400 common people right there. On Friday, I dropped at what midnight, 1:40:19.600 --> 1:40:22.679 and she had more downloads. I think it literally shut 1:40:22.720 --> 1:40:25.160 the internet down. People stayed up till midnight. Grown ass 1:40:25.280 --> 1:40:28.479 women stayed up till midnight to download the forty two 1:40:28.520 --> 1:40:31.360 minute album. She has got a lott. No, I did 1:40:31.439 --> 1:40:33.479 not say, because you know what, it's not a live thing. 1:40:33.520 --> 1:40:35.160 I didn't need to get up and download it. In 1:40:35.200 --> 1:40:37.280 the middle of the night. It's like, yeah, they'll still 1:40:37.320 --> 1:40:39.240 be new to you in a day or two or 1:40:39.280 --> 1:40:40.439 a week whenever you get it. 1:40:40.880 --> 1:40:43.160 Well, you think you know Taylor Swift, you know, that's 1:40:43.280 --> 1:40:45.479 not really my kind of music, But I do appreciate 1:40:45.840 --> 1:40:48.560 her and what she does and the talent has and 1:40:48.640 --> 1:40:50.760 not only that, if you remember, you know the tour 1:40:50.840 --> 1:40:53.600 that she had, the Airs tour when she came to Cincinnati, 1:40:53.720 --> 1:40:56.360 that flooded in millions and millions of dollars to our 1:40:56.439 --> 1:40:57.200 local economy. 1:40:57.320 --> 1:41:00.479 So I'm pro Taylor Swift. Oh yeah, she's. 1:41:00.280 --> 1:41:03.080 Continuing to put music and stuff out there. But you know, 1:41:03.200 --> 1:41:06.080 the the fanfare for it, you know, does help our 1:41:06.120 --> 1:41:06.960 economy quite a bit. 1:41:07.120 --> 1:41:08.640 Yeah, but you know some of the songs, it's the 1:41:08.680 --> 1:41:10.560 thing here to Go. Yeah, that's Taylor Swift. That's I 1:41:10.600 --> 1:41:11.880 don't know the name of the song, but I know 1:41:11.960 --> 1:41:12.240 the song. 1:41:12.520 --> 1:41:14.400 Yeah, I think I know them when they come on, right, 1:41:14.479 --> 1:41:16.400 but I couldn't tell you, you know, off the top 1:41:16.439 --> 1:41:18.000 of my head some the names of the songs. 1:41:18.120 --> 1:41:20.040 Yeah, yeah, seemingly Okay, So there's a one prore we 1:41:20.040 --> 1:41:21.960 found someone in there. She's just crushing it either way. 1:41:22.080 --> 1:41:24.280 Doesn't have a cat the government's why it shut down, 1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:27.920 doesn't Taylor Swift. But on my own government, he's Andy 1:41:27.960 --> 1:41:30.000 Schaeffer all Worth Financial. They have a show called Simply 1:41:30.040 --> 1:41:32.519 Money the airs weeknights at six on our sister station 1:41:32.640 --> 1:41:36.600 fifty five KRC. He pops in tuesdays little financial tune up. 1:41:37.360 --> 1:41:38.880 I just look at the markets and there in the 1:41:38.960 --> 1:41:40.840 green and it goes to show you what a joke 1:41:40.960 --> 1:41:41.760 the shutdown is. 1:41:42.160 --> 1:41:42.320 Now. 1:41:42.960 --> 1:41:45.360 In the future, let's say it's shut down for thirty 1:41:45.680 --> 1:41:49.240 forty days. Now we don't start to get some financial reports. 1:41:49.320 --> 1:41:51.559 And once it starts to impact the economy in the markets, 1:41:51.640 --> 1:41:53.800 then they these guys start paying attention. But right now 1:41:53.840 --> 1:41:56.320 it's all theater. Andy, have a great week. Appreciate you, Okay, Scott, 1:41:56.360 --> 1:41:57.920 thanks a lot time. Willie is on the way in 1:41:58.080 --> 1:42:00.200 just minutes here with the news and the make sure 1:42:00.200 --> 1:42:01.880 I'm back tomorrow nine oh six. Here on the home 1:42:01.920 --> 1:42:04.439 the best Bengals coverage seven hundred w do bet since 1:42:04.479 --> 1:42:04.599 now