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Speaker 2: Dana Man, things are taking rather wicked termed wicked turns,

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Speaker 3: Top five.

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Speaker 4: Quick congratulations to a friend of ours, a fan radio

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Speaker 4: Sportscasters and Sports Writers Hall of Fame. Congratulations at Jack

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Speaker 4: I'm actually surprised he's not already in it, but congratulations

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Speaker 4: congratulations Jack on a wonderful and I would say overdue honor.

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Speaker 2: It's not illegal for other players to have great games

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Speaker 2: I got a really, I think, enlightening letter from a

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Speaker 5: And then they went out and they had they.

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Speaker 7: Had the round of the century in the first round.

443
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Speaker 7: That's the one event that I would say that that

444
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Speaker 7: not only lived up to.

445
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 5: The hype, but blew the hype away.

446
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 7: And in yesterday's game, yeah, we were all excited about

447
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 7: that and the rest of it, and that you know

448
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 7: that certainly lived up to all of our expectations going

449
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 7: into overtime. The only thing I would say that I

450
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 7: don't like Dan is I don't like the three one

451
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 7: in the Olympic. I wanted to see that game go.

452
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 5: Un till you know, two thirty in the morning. That

453
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 5: needed to be five on five and play play it

454
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Speaker 5: like you do in the Stanley Cut playoffs.

455
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Speaker 2: There's no question is some of the most you know,

456
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 2: mythical games here are games that became very mythical were

457
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: high school state tournament title games that went several overtimes,

458
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Speaker 2: and that just adds to the mystiques.

459
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Speaker 3: I'm with you on that.

460
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Speaker 2: I don't want to get too far into boxing, but

461
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Speaker 2: you you you raised an interesting question because I used

462
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Speaker 2: to be a newspaper guy, and I have told people

463
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Speaker 2: for sheer anticipation and buzz some of the best fights

464
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Speaker 2: that I attended, the presentation, the anticipation shortly before the

465
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Speaker 2: bell before or the opening announcement, when you know everybody's

466
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 2: around the ring. I don't think anything touches that doesn't

467
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: always mean the fight itself is gonna match it. But

468
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Speaker 2: for you, in terms of anticipating, in terms of buzz,

469
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Speaker 2: is that it? For you? Would it be some of

470
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Speaker 2: the great boxing matches we're talking about here, because I

471
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: just don't think anything quite compares to that that's setting

472
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Speaker 2: in the ring or around the ring.

473
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Speaker 7: You're on top of it, man, I'm telling you because

474
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Speaker 7: it's it's You've got two guys. It's not a team

475
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Speaker 7: coming out on the ice or on a football field

476
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Speaker 7: or on a basketball court.

477
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 5: It's two guys, two.

478
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 7: Guys coming out right in rogues, right with entouragers, and

479
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 7: they come down the aisles and the crowd is going crazy,

480
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 7: and that Hagler Hearn's fight, of course, I remember exactly,

481
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Speaker 7: and I'm thinking to myself, oh my god, these two guys,

482
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 7: I mean, they're alone. They are alone, you got everybody

483
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 7: is going to be washing and then it's hey, you know,

484
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 7: I don't know how they they were able to to,

485
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 7: you know, lift their arms once they get into the ring.

486
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 7: But you're right, the anticipation before a great fight, and

487
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 7: especially a heavyweight championship fight, you have to go back

488
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 7: obviously to the you know, the Muhammad A Lead days

489
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 7: and the rest there is very there's nothing really to

490
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 7: compare to that because the rest of the you know,

491
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 7: the rest of the events all have you know, the

492
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Speaker 7: teams are coming out and there these days of course

493
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 7: national anthems and the whole thing, and God Bless America

494
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 7: on top of it, and the flyovers blah blah blah

495
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 7: blah blah. But boil boy, when those two guys are

496
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Speaker 7: getting into a ring and they're walking down the aisle, wow,

497
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Speaker 7: I mean the hair is standing up on your arms

498
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 7: and your back and everywhere on your body, because it's

499
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Speaker 7: just it's almost surreal, and I think, I think that

500
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Speaker 7: would be I'm with you, that's the number one thing

501
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 7: I would think of in terms of, you know, the

502
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Speaker 7: anticipation before before a bell rings.

503
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Speaker 2: We are chatting with the legendary Al Michaels here on

504
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Speaker 2: the fan. Does it feel like forty six years ago

505
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Speaker 2: to you the miracle?

506
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Speaker 5: You know, it doesn't, It doesn't.

507
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 7: It comes and it goes, and you know, there are

508
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 7: times when you know nobody's really talking about it, and

509
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 7: then it seems like a long time. And then you've

510
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 7: got a situation like you've had it in the past

511
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 7: couple of weeks, and it seems very clear in my mind,

512
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, the synapsis of your brain

513
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 7: open up wide and I can feel almost everything I

514
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 7: felt in Lake Placids.

515
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 5: You're just walking to.

516
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 7: The arena with Ken Dryden before that game, being out

517
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 7: on the on the street after we beat Finland and

518
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 7: running into Micah Ruzione who told me about the great.

519
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 5: Herb Brooks speech before the.

520
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 7: Third period of the Finland game when they're down two

521
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 7: to one, and yeah, all of a sudden, it comes

522
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 7: it comes back, it comes back in space, and then

523
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 7: of course you know, you see you know, I've seen

524
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 7: the tape eighteen million times, of course. But the odd

525
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 7: thing for me, Dan is when I see the tape,

526
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Speaker 7: I mean, I know what's going to happen, I know

527
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 7: what I'm going to say, but I'm really watching it

528
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 7: in the third person. I'm kind of on I love

529
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 7: being on the outside looking in and exulting like.

530
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 5: Everybody else does. It's amazing.

531
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Speaker 3: I believe it.

532
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 2: I think we talked about this last time, because you're

533
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: asked all the time about the line and to me,

534
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: and you made it clear it's not something you put

535
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: down on paper. You had no idea exactly what was

536
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: going to happen. And I always felt that was the

537
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: beauty of it. That's what made it what it was.

538
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: If you had planned it, or tried to plan it,

539
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: or try to choreograph it or script it, that's how

540
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: it comes off. And the reason it stays with people,

541
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: al is you didn't script it. You simply reacted to the.

542
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 5: Moment you got it.

543
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 7: And I had to be is at that point number one,

544
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 7: number one, I thought there was zero chance the US

545
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 7: could win the game, and all I was hoping for

546
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 7: is that it was it would stay within two goals,

547
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 7: like in the middle of the second period. Otherwise, in

548
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 7: those years, you know, the iconic.

549
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 5: Ruin Oarlige, who was running ABC.

550
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Speaker 7: Sports at the time and helped to create Wide World

551
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Speaker 7: and Monday.

552
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 5: Night Football and all of the rest. Ruin wasn't a

553
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 5: big hockey fan.

554
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 7: And if the score had become something like four to one,

555
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 7: knowing what was going on in the truck, they might

556
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 7: have gone to ski jumping or biathlon or women's ordinals

557
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 7: or whatever. They would have come away from the game

558
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 7: and just you know, checked in periodically. So all I

559
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 7: wanted was for the game to stay close, stay close

560
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 7: as long as it could, so when all of a sudden,

561
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 7: you know, look we trailed. We trailed three times in

562
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 7: that game one nothing, two, one three two.

563
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Speaker 5: So even though.

564
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Speaker 7: We're down, at least, you know, the game, the game

565
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 7: is sort of within reach at the end of the

566
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 7: second period, even though I still thought, you know, the

567
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 7: Soviets would dominate the third run away with it. Now

568
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 7: we get the time goal, Now we get the Eruzione

569
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Speaker 7: goal with ten minutes to go, and now this is

570
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Speaker 7: a whole different animal. The building is shaking. I mean

571
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Speaker 7: I did the earthquake in nineteen eighty nine in the

572
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Speaker 7: World Series in San Francisco. That building was shaking like

573
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Speaker 7: San Francisco was shaking that moment in time in eighty nine.

574
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 7: So the place is going crazy, the truck is going crazy.

575
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 7: They're screaming all kinds of stuff at me, and I'm

576
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 7: just trying to concentrate, like crazy, on the game.

577
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Speaker 5: He said.

578
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 7: Soviets are putting a lot of pressure on I mean

579
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 7: that game could have ended with a Soviet goal, a

580
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 7: crazy making, a great save, any number of ways. So

581
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 7: all I'm thinking about is just call the game. Call

582
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 7: the game, stay in the game to the very end.

583
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 7: And then when the puck came out to center ice

584
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 7: with about the six seconds left and there was no

585
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 7: time for the Soviets to mount another attack, the word

586
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 7: that came into my head was miraculous. It got morphed

587
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 7: into a question and an answer. I couldn't have gotten luckier,

588
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 7: because I guess it'd be to this day. It's still

589
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 7: plays and the word miracle is now attached to all

590
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Speaker 7: of it.

591
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: But that was serendipitous.

592
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 7: Then that was just blind luck, blind luck that the

593
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 7: puck came out to center ice and miraculous came into

594
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 7: my head and out came a question and an answer

595
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 7: simple as that. And you're right, because if you think

596
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 7: of something to say, it sounds scripted and phony, and

597
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 7: you might as well.

598
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 5: Be doing a movie a live broadcast.

599
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: And frankly, we've heard that. We do.

600
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: Hear it from time to time where he's like, oh man,

601
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: you're trying too hard. But I guess that's just the

602
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: way it works occasionally.

603
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Speaker 3: Real quick.

604
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: You know, you work with Kenny Dryden, who you know,

605
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: we have the great lu Nanny on every week during

606
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: the hockey season, and Louis helped us get Kenny on

607
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: a couple of three years ago. He, of course, as

608
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Speaker 2: you know, has passed on and I was absolutely fascinated

609
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Speaker 2: by him, how his mind worked. He was a terrific interview.

610
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: What do you remember about him? What was he like

611
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: to work with and how did he strike you?

612
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 7: Everything you remember is correct. I loved working with him.

613
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 7: Number one, he was a brilliant man. He retired at

614
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Speaker 7: the apex of his career. He won what five or

615
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 7: six visid is and the same number or clothes of

616
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Speaker 7: the Stanley cuffs. He retired at age thirty. He just

617
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 7: wanted to experience a lot of other things life and

618
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 7: the first thing that he experienced in life outside of

619
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 7: hockey was broadcasting. So he and I got together and

620
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 7: we were paired for for Lake classes. Obviously, we met

621
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Speaker 7: in Moscow. There was a tournament going on in December

622
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 7: of seventy nine featuring all of the Olympic teams except

623
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 7: the US team, so we were able to scout the Soviets, Czechoslovakia,

624
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 7: and Finland, Sweden, you name it, the Romania. Kenny had

625
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 7: played against them as well in the Canada Cup, so

626
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 7: he knew them inside out. He knew the sport inside out.

627
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 7: He was a brilliant man. We sat down to dinner

628
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 7: the first night we met in Moscow before the tournament started,

629
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 7: and Kenny explained to me asking him to explain to

630
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Speaker 7: me the differences between the National Hockey League brand of

631
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 7: hockey and international hockey in the wider rink, and Kenny

632
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 7: delivered a dissertation.

633
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 5: Which was phenomenal.

634
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 7: I mean that taught me everything I ever needed to

635
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 7: know about the difference between international hockey and the NHL brand.

636
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 7: So Kenny went on for about five six seven minutes

637
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 7: and then he said to me, and.

638
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 5: You can picture you know.

639
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 7: First of all, Kenny looked like a college professor.

640
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 5: He did imposing. I mean Kenny had everything but.

641
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 7: A dog at his feet and a robe and the

642
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 7: whole thing, and slippers. So he was that kind of

643
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 7: a guy, but an imposing man.

644
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: Yes.

645
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 7: And then and Ken said to me, do you think

646
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 7: this is the type of thing the American audience will

647
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 7: be interested in? I said, Ken, yes, but let me

648
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 7: introduce you to the world of television. Can you say

649
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 7: that in eight seconds about all the time you're gonna have?

650
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 7: And he was phenomenal And we got to work three Olympics.

651
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 7: We worked the Sarajevo in eighty four, the Calgary in

652
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 7: eighty eight when our teams weren't very good, but to

653
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 7: share that moment in time with him was great. And

654
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 7: when Kenny passed and I had no idea who was

655
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 7: sick and I heard it, I mean, Dan, that was

656
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 7: like a dagger to me.

657
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 5: That was a dagger.

658
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 7: You share a moment like that with somebody like Kenny

659
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 7: driving he was.

660
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 5: He was tremendous.

661
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 7: I mean we overused the word term renaissance man.

662
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 5: He was a renaissance man.

663
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Speaker 3: Such a fine mind. You mentioned Rone. I want to again.

664
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: I didn't intend originally go down this road, but you

665
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: mentioned him, and I don't think we've talked about him before.

666
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: And I am old enough to remember those days Wide

667
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: world of Sports. In fact, I was in Sarajevo. In fact,

668
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: I went on one of those junkets in December that

669
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: you were on. And you guys are all very generous

670
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: with your time in those situations and great background for

671
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: newspaper people as well. Give me to the kids who

672
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: don't know who Rune is. What did he successfully tap

673
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: into that no one else seemed able to.

674
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 5: A couple of things.

675
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 7: Number One, he created wide world of sports, which enabled

676
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 7: you to see things you thought you couldn't see. And

677
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 7: that's during the advent of satellite television, So all of

678
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 7: a sudden you could now show people Jim McKay hitting

679
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 7: a gopwall of the Great Wall of China. You could

680
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 7: get behind the Iron Curtain and get to see gymnastics

681
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 7: from Moscow. You could get to Cuba. Cuba opened up

682
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 7: for wide world of sports because they were so proud

683
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 7: of their amateur boxing program with Aflo Stevenson, so Run

684
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 7: was able to take you with Jim McKay hosting around

685
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 7: the World to see places you couldn't have seen on

686
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 7: television before Wide World started.

687
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: He had that.

688
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 7: He of course had the idea for Monday Night Football

689
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 7: in nineteen seventy, which turned out to be a gigantic

690
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 7: success and still is obviously. But I think one of

691
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 7: Rune's principles was the games have a similarity to them.

692
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 5: You know games.

693
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 7: Games can be great, fabulous or not so, but it's

694
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 7: a game. What run wanted to do is make you

695
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 7: invest in the viewer, in the people, the personalities, and

696
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 7: that's why he was to create legendary performers like Holga

697
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 7: Corbett and Nadia Kominisch. I mean, nobody was really watching gymnastics, but.

698
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 5: He made them. He made them.

699
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 7: Super super superstars by telling you about their background and

700
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 7: how they were able to do this.

701
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 5: It was called up close and personal.

702
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 7: And now, of course it's a part and parcel of

703
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 7: like almost every telecass you see, Drune said, the people

704
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 7: are the most important thing you want to get. You

705
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 7: want to get the viewers invested in people.

706
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, now, as you say, we take it for granted,

707
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: but that wasn't the case back then.

708
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: He really got that started correct.

709
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: I also felt like the broadcasts were very literate, and

710
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: you know, not just with Jim McKay, but certainly starting

711
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: in my view with Jim McKay, I felt like there

712
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: was less screaming. There was, as I said, literate. It

713
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: felt like there was better preparation in the writing. Everything

714
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: just seemed so effective in that sense and very very

715
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: polished in a good way.

716
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 5: I agree. And you know, nowadays it's almost like.

717
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 7: People are trying to, you know, get hits on YouTube

718
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 7: or TikTok or whatever the hell. It is not everybody,

719
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 7: but I mean, yeah, I mean, I mean, to me,

720
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 7: calm down, you don't. You don't have to scream your

721
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 7: way through a telecast.

722
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 5: But some people, I guess, like it. Dan, What can

723
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 5: I tell you? You know? But to me, to me, you don't.

724
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 7: My theory has always been, don't overwhelm drama, build it,

725
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 7: build it, and let it happen organically.

726
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 5: So I don't know, I have a dinosaur in this regard.

727
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 5: Who the hell.

728
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: You're holding up pretty nicely. Less is more, I think,

729
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: is the is the statement that people go And it

730
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: can be in literature, it can be in broadcasting, whatever

731
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: the case may be, don't be afraid to occasionally, you know,

732
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: not over state. I've kept you way too long here,

733
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: I guess I feel obligated though, to ask, so you

734
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: are you year to year now?

735
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: In terms of broadcast? Are you ten years?

736
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you go about deciding when al

737
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: Michaels has had enough.

738
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 6: In the booth?

739
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 7: Well, this will be this will be year five for

740
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 7: me going into Amazon. This forem I still love what

741
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 7: I do, Dan, I still get a kick out of it.

742
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 7: I still enjoy it. I think if I feel like

743
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 7: I can't be who I've been, at least get really

744
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 7: close to it, and you know, and and not may

745
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 7: not make people grown and go, you know, remember what

746
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 7: he used to be? You know, some people I'm sure

747
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 7: think I'm there right now.

748
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 5: I don't.

749
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 7: Uh. And the Amazon people I work with have been fantastic,

750
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 7: And they've basically said to me, oh, no, we want

751
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 7: you whatever, what what you what do you want to do?

752
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 7: I said, well, I'll do another year. They say, great,

753
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 7: you tell us. They've been phenomenal in that regard. So

754
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 7: we're often running this will be what you're forty two

755
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 7: for me in the National Football League coming up, it's

756
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 7: crazy man, it's crazy.

757
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: That is unbelievable. And and you, to me, you sound

758
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: as good as you've ever been. You know, it's the

759
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: old deal.

760
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: There's four or five times in every broadcast where I go, Yeah,

761
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: he still got it.

762
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: I don't see it now again.

763
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: As you know, there's always going to be critics out there,

764
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: there's already always people looking for stuff. But nevertheless, I

765
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: can tell that it seems to be the passion is

766
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: every bit as much there as it's ever been.

767
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't think it doesn't appear to me you've lost

768
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: any of that.

769
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 5: Thank you. I agree, Thank you, Thank you.

770
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: So much for the time. I appreciate it and hope

771
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 2: we can do this again. But you've been, like I said,

772
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 2: great to us over the years.

773
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: Thanks so much, Okay, Dan, always a pleasure to take.

774
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: You in al Michaels kind enough to join us right

775
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: before the start of the program today. Very good to

776
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: catch up with him. Great idea by Guardsy to reach

777
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: out to him again.

778
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: And you never know.

779
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes he's available, sometimes he's not, but it is.

780
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: I'm glad we were able to get into some other

781
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: areas beyond the miracle game, which we've talked to him

782
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: about before the broadcast it's always worth revisiting, it's always

783
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: going to be in this country, and then his own

784
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: updated about the influence of this game this time around.

785
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: But I like getting into him about some of the

786
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: other stuff, including, uh, you know, run Arlich, the architect

787
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 2: of the wide world of sports, his time with Kenny Dryden,

788
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: who became a terrific guest on this show thanks to

789
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: lout Annie et cetera. So always good, and I you know,

790
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: one of the texts we got was I wish he

791
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: had al has been great, wish he had this energy

792
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: on Thursday Night football. I will tell you again everybody

793
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: has a right to their opinion, but I think the

794
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: energy thing on him has been way overrated.

795
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: I just don't sense it.

796
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: He he has never been an over the top broadcaster,

797
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: and I don't mind some who are.

798
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: Kevin Harlan is an over the top broadcaster.

799
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 5: I love him.

800
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: It's it shows again that greatness can come in a

801
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: lot of different packages. I think there was a couple

802
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: of years ago where there are a couple of really

803
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: good games where it's it kind of sounded like, okay,

804
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: is he this is pretty exciting? But that went away

805
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: I don't sense it any change of any magnitude in

806
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: that regard for me, And he can come on this

807
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: show anytime.

808
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 3: He was absolutely outstanding.

809
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 4: Well, what I would say to that criticism if that's true,

810
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: and I don't I'm not super locked in on Amazon

811
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: Prime first, and I'm with you.

812
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: That's if.

813
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 4: If that's true, I could not care less because if

814
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 4: al Michaels wants to work until he's ninety eight years old,

815
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: now Michaels should work till he's ninety eight years old.

816
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: And I and he said it, I don't think it's

817
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 2: the it's the sort of thing where he even said, look,

818
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: you know, they're always gonna have people who are gonna

819
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: go after you. But I have to feel like I'm

820
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: still close to what I'm able to do. If at

821
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: some point in your own mind you go, no, I'm

822
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: not as quick, I'm missing too much stuff, whatever the

823
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: case may be, then that's another issue. But I don't

824
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: see it. And the voice is just so good. I

825
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: feel so good here in his book. Yeah it is.

826
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: It's it's we use this term maybe too much, but efforts.

827
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: He's another one of those effortless people at his job.

828
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: And that's part of the reason I think he does

829
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: it so well and great history, even talking to him

830
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 2: about the boxing stuff that he did as well a long,

831
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: long time ago. Top of the hour break, I want

832
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: to try to pay off the Tea's regarding I thought

833
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: a very disarming letter from a Canadian regarding what took

834
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: place yesterday, and also get to a little bit about

835
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: what's going on south of the border in Mexico. It

836
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: sounds fairly violent and grim, and it is a stranding

837
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: a number of us individual some by the way, who

838
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: lived there part of the year and others who were

839
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: just vacationing there as well.

840
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: So it's a combo platter of both.

841
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: We'll get to some of the details on that and

842
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: remind you what you might have missed from the rest

843
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: of the program and set up I think what's going

844
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: to be a very good week. We had a lot

845
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: of good stuff all week long right here in the fans.

846
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: All right, might as well play the Olympics music at

847
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: least one more time. I'm guessing we might even have

848
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: a guest tomorrow that'll help us extend this thing out.

849
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: But let's play it today. I didn't watch any of

850
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: the closing ceremonies. Were they anything to write home about?

851
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: Were they aesthetically pleasing to comment on them?

852
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: Watch?

853
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: Anybody who did let us know via the retch on

854
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: Brian kfan text line six four six eight six dateline veil.

855
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: Colorado American skier Lindsay Vaughn says she nearly lost her

856
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: left leg following a frightening crash in the women's downhill

857
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: at the Milan Courtina Olympics. She shared in an Instagram

858
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: post today that her injuries went far beyond the complex

859
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: tibia fracture in the leg she initially initially revealed after

860
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: clipping a gate and sailing off course just thirteen seconds

861
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: into her run on Feb eight. The forty one year

862
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: old Vaughn said the trauma from the crash led to

863
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: compartment syndrome in the leg. Compartment syndrome involves excessive pressure

864
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: building up inside a muscle, either from bleeding or swelling.

865
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: High pressure restricts blood flow and can lead to permanent

866
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: injury if not treated quickly. When you have so much

867
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: trauma to one air of your body, she said that

868
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: there's too much so that there's too much blood and

869
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: it gets stuck and it basically crushes everything. She credited

870
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: doctor Tom Hackett, an orthopedic surgeon who works for Vaughn

871
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: and TMSA, for conducting.

872
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: A fasciotomy FA.

873
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: There's a faciotomy fascio tmy to salvage her leg. He

874
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: filaid it open and let it breathe, and he saved.

875
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: He saved me.

876
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: Isn't that what Teddy Bridgewater had? Compartment syndrome? Wasn't it

877
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: something very similar? I don't know he had his cataclysmic injury.

878
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: What back in ten years ago, twenty sixteen.

879
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 4: I'll check Teddy practice, but I know that our old

880
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 4: victim of the bumper to bumper curse, Jordan Hicks, the

881
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 4: old linebacker when we had all.

882
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 3: Oh, that's what he had.

883
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 4: That's true his injury, because I remember like a month

884
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: later when he came back on he talked about it.

885
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: Maybe in Teddy's case, it was he was headed that

886
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: way if not for the quick work they did reacting

887
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: to the leg. I thought, I'm looking at a quote

888
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: a surgeon describing is a horribly grotesque injury.

889
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: It's almost like a war wound.

890
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: Everything is blown and it reads here one of the

891
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: stories he Bridgewater was at risk of losing his leg.

892
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 3: So I think it was something very similar.

893
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: The injury itself might have been different, but I think

894
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: a compartment syndrome had something to do with that. But

895
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Jordan Hicks talked to us about that

896
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: that very issue.

897
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 4: And even though I knew it was coming because I've

898
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 4: read the same story and I read that what she

899
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: had to say about it. When you say when you

900
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 4: say filayed the leg, I mean it like shivers, Like

901
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: it's one of those where I'm just like, oh my

902
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: god when you think about it, what they had to do,

903
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 4: And that's what Hicks talked about. I remember it just

904
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: it gets me every time. Yeah, one hundred percent cray I.

905
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: Uh so, again that takes the story in Vaughn's case

906
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: because we are all doing the debate right.

907
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: Well, she had a right to do. It's her life.

908
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: She can do what she wants. I'm not going to

909
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: lie to you and deny that.

910
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: If you say to me, well, there's a chance you

911
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: might lose your leg doing this, I again would respect

912
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: her right to do it, but I'd say, now it's

913
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: a little less I think slam dunkish and automatic. Now,

914
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: how you could probably possibly predict that nobody can. But

915
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: you have to wonder if the vulnerability of the leg

916
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: contributed to the to the to the end result here,

917
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: which was make which made the injury from the crash,

918
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: or you know, more cataclysmic.

919
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: I guess one could say, who knows?

920
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: In any case, an interesting note from Vaughn giving us

921
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: more detail at this point.

922
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: All right, what do you make of this? Letter?

923
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 2: Got this into my at KFEM dot com to me

924
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 2: to my own email. This came in at one fifty

925
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: five this afternoon from Christopher Dan. I'm writing to you

926
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: as a native Canadian and a resident of Minnesota for

927
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: the past twenty plus years. Immediately after the United States

928
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: beat Canada and the men's gold medal game, I received

929
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: a text message from my father that read, you know,

930
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: all these American players are just the children of great

931
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: Canadian NHL ers born in the US.

932
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 6: Now.

933
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 2: I didn't look up the validity of the statement from

934
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: my dad, because it doesn't matter. They would still be American.

935
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: The point is that a lot of Canadians are bitter

936
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: with the loss. Yesterday we heard that from west Walls

937
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: talking about his parents.

938
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: He won't even call us fly until today. Gave him

939
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: an extra day to deal with it.

940
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: To them, he writes, America is the land of Cowboys,

941
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: Disney World, and Taylor Swift. Yes, even to Canadians. Minnesota

942
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: is generally considered flyover country. To Canadians. Half that team

943
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: was quote wrangling cattle then decided to pick up a

944
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 2: hockey stick. Live me here for twenty plus years gives

945
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: me a different perspective. I've seen kids as young as

946
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: three learn to skate. I've watched the talent in Minnesota State,

947
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: in the Minnesota State High School Tournament, where there will

948
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: be a handful of future NHLT elers that, sorry, Dad,

949
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: were born in America. I saw the clips of Minnesota

950
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: bars erupting in joy as the US scored the golden goal.

951
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: I know what this win means to this Minnesota hockey community.

952
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: As a Canadian, the loss is disappointing, but it does

953
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: make me happy that a place that is so entrenched

954
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: in hockey culture can help a nation win the gold

955
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: even if these players are wrangling cattle in between line

956
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: shifts joking. May we all be that entertained and upset

957
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: about the parental heritage of the players four years from now. Signed, Sincerely,

958
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: a misplaced Canadian. I thought that was good stuff, pretty

959
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: well crafted, very well put together, and kind of articulates

960
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: a lot of this story. And it's I think it

961
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: is helpful when it's somebody from up there right who

962
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 2: now has spent enough time here, I think, to get

963
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: past the stereotypes and to say, well, no, they're invested

964
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: in and here, whether they whether it originated here, whatever

965
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: you want to say, it's not a passing fancy frankly

966
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: in many parts of the country anymore, certainly not in

967
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: the great state of Minnesota.

968
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: That's one of the cool things because Wes mentioned, you know,

969
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 4: my son and his buddies basically took a break from

970
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 4: their practice yesterday to watch the overtime, and there's great

971
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 4: videos of that. And we've seen all kinds of great

972
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 4: videos from Minnesota and how they had a white bear lake.

973
00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: One yep.

974
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: One of them that is circulated is a couple of

975
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 4: teams in Raleigh, North Carolina that were on the ice

976
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 4: that stopped, And that I think is what is cool

977
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 4: about it. Al Michael's talked about you know Scott Scott Arizonsona. Yeah, obviously,

978
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: you know Jason Zucker around here is from Vegas. He

979
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 4: grew up there, like the game. I mean, Louis spent

980
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 4: the last thirty years growing the game in Florida. You know,

981
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 4: he'll talk about that tomorrow. Louis done such a great

982
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 4: job growing the game down there, yea diligently for six

983
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 4: months out of the year. But because here, I mean

984
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 4: we think of our six months in one day, six months.

985
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 5: In one day.

986
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 4: That's probably about right, Like obviously in Minnesota. Because the

987
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: other thing that's going on right now is people are

988
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: talking about the percentages of gold medal winners on these

989
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 4: three teams, you know, fifty or four teams whatever, fifty six,

990
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 4: sixty eighty and now obviously twenty twenty six, and it's

991
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 4: like sixty two percent of them are from Minnesota or

992
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 4: some crazy number, and twenty percent of them played for

993
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 4: the U. And mostly if you didn't grow up in

994
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: war Road, if you weren't affiliated with the Christian Family,

995
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 4: you weren't anywhere near, right. Yeah, it's like the third generation.

996
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 4: Now I think of Christian with brock Nelson. That's pretty good,

997
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 4: that is cool. But that's why we're always number one

998
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: in the ratings and Fort Myers is number two.

999
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: Although I guess I don't know what the final ratings are.

1000
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: But going into the weekend, well, no, we were in

1001
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: a tie, a first place tie with Milwaukee. Interesting, Milwaukee

1002
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: had made a big jump, but we were there still

1003
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 2: very much in prime position. So I'm sure I'm guessing

1004
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 2: tomorrow maybe we'll get the final ratings on all of that.

1005
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: I am curious to know what the ratings were Sunday morning. Oh, massive,

1006
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: had to be massive. Abbott sent me just the online

1007
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: numbers for us on sermons. It was terrific, so, which

1008
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 2: was kind of nice because again, the assumption is always well,

1009
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: especially after the game ended, they went way up. But

1010
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: even then, even before then, there were a lot of

1011
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: people who had the sound turned down and were trying

1012
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: to pay attention to whatever blathering we were attempting to do.

1013
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: So all that's good, and it will be you know,

1014
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: memorable for a long time. I don't know if it'll stick,

1015
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: like you know, Lake Placid, because again, that's an entity

1016
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: all its own. As al Michael said, that's a one

1017
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: off literally, but it will last a long time. The

1018
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: way it happened, how it happened, the drama with which

1019
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: it finished, there's no question that that game is also

1020
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: going to be remembered for quite some time. All right,

1021
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: let's do this. I want to get to the Mexico

1022
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 2: story via a Texter who's got some connections there. Might

1023
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: even be able to help us with a guest. More

1024
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: on that in a minute. It does not seem very

1025
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: inviting right now in parts of Mexico after a drug

1026
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: lord was taken down, So we'll give you some details

1027
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: on that as we wrap up the show, Show.

1028
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 4: Rap presented by American Pressure commercial grade pressure Washers since

1029
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy five.

1030
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: It's the bumper to Bumper Show Rap.

1031
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 2: I want to thank an outstanding array of guests today

1032
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 2: that included Johnny Athletic at three point thirty Monday, regular

1033
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: great stuff from West Walls. I like the way so

1034
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: called casual hockey guy put it said. It's a great

1035
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: listen for the beauty of Walls is. If you're a

1036
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: hardcore hockey guy. He's a great analyst if you're a

1037
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: more casual hockey guy. I won't say he dumbs it down,

1038
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: but I think he simplifies it in a way that

1039
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: makes it compelling and interesting and easy to follow. Very

1040
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: much looking forward to more Wallsey as we get closer

1041
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: and closer to the postseason and who knows what beyond

1042
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 2: and special thanks to guardzi's guy Al Michaels, who joined

1043
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: us right before the show. We played back that interview

1044
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: at five thirty. If you missed it, you can podcast

1045
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: it a little later in the In the broadcast, I

1046
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: mentioned Mexico.

1047
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: It's ugly down there. Right now, here's the well I

1048
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 3: tell you.

1049
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: Let me read the text from Burrow Oaks chef Guy

1050
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 2: be concerning the TERMO on Mexico. I've been in contact

1051
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: with my friend of over forty years. It was one

1052
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: of the hundreds of US born citizens who've been in

1053
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: lockdown in the community of Lake chap Pala, Mexico, which

1054
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 2: is well known for its ex patriots and artsy folk.

1055
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: The bank there has been burned down, et cetera. But

1056
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: my understanding is is that it is better today. She

1057
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: is a theater director and connected well to the community.

1058
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: She could be available if this continues to percolate. I

1059
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: did suggest that she that he emailed that Burrow Oaks

1060
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: chef guy email you to see if perhaps we could

1061
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: get that done. I wouldn't mind having a conversation with

1062
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: somebody on the ground. I think Porto Viarda was the

1063
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: worst area, right, So basically what happens here is there's

1064
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: the Mexican military's killing of the Jalisco New Generation cartel's chief,

1065
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: Nimesio mencho Ousi Getta, and that cartel is considered the

1066
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: country's most powerful organized crime group. And let's just say

1067
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: they've responded in con with all kinds of violence, a

1068
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 2: shattering the piece is the way the Wall Street Journal

1069
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: puts it in Mexico's premiere Pacific Beach destination among the

1070
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: wealthiest places in Jullisco State. I think it has kind

1071
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: of spread from there.

1072
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: I know, I believe.

1073
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: US citizens who are either vacationing there or even you know,

1074
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: living there, have been told to shelter in place. The

1075
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: airport is kind of a messy situation. It's a very

1076
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: fluid situation as well, and maybe we'll be stabilized pretty quick.

1077
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: The video is pretty alarming. What you see burning buses,

1078
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: you see some buildings on fire as well.

1079
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 3: And of course where this goes from here, we don't know.

1080
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: Part of varta Is has a population of about six

1081
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand. Plumes of black smoke billowed into the

1082
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: sky looks something in places like a war zone with

1083
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: police and firefighters racing to emergencies, the burning hulks of

1084
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: cars littered streets as well. Perhaps we can get somebody

1085
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: on from there and follow up with a little bit

1086
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: more information. Hopefully that's a situation will be stabilized. I'm

1087
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: guessing there's people in our audience. They have relatives or

1088
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: down there. Right, It's a very popular destination for sure,

1089
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: especially this time of year. We can finish with this.

1090
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 2: It's called this is from Jory who writes poem kind

1091
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: of this Long Winter's icicles Quinn Hughes Shooting Miracles Bumper

1092
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: to Bumper with al Michaels, Wolves and five.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 2: It's not as rhyming, but then again, maybe it doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to. Maybe this is the next step in this

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Speaker 2: bit the evolution. Yeah, that it doesn't that it can

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Speaker 2: be a poem kind of. It doesn't have to necessarily

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Speaker 2: be in perfect rhyme, perfect sync A patient.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I got I don't think we

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Speaker 3: got this.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: Bleacher Report Open Eyes tweeted this out. Puck Luck, Kat Chuck,

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Speaker 4: Hella Buck Usa and five.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's good.

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Speaker 2: I like that, not bad at all for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean the goalie is the story, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: we'll all agree. Although I loved I think one of

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Speaker 2: the more interesting things from Wes Walls was, you know,

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Speaker 2: when you factor in who played who and all that.

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Speaker 2: For him, it wasn't just the goaltending part of the way.

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Speaker 2: He evaluated it very honestly as a guy now has

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Speaker 2: a foot in both countries.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yes, is that the.

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Speaker 2: US played smarter, especially he thought in the overtime. He

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Speaker 2: was very critical with the Dufas factor involving some of

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Speaker 2: the best obviously hockey players in the world, including Connor McDavid.

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Speaker 3: We thought was too impatient.

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Speaker 2: Ye didn't sort of settle things back, you know, stabilized.

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Speaker 3: Things got too much in a hurry.

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Speaker 2: And so that's another really good point when it comes

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Speaker 2: to the outplayed thing that a certain intelligence in your game, smart,

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Speaker 2: you know, the smart factor in your game is also allowed.

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Speaker 3: You're allowed to evaluate that.

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Speaker 2: And he said, to be honest, I mean about the

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Speaker 2: town all you want, but the US, especially in ot

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Speaker 2: played a lot smarter.

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Speaker 3: And he is a big believer in the way the.

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Speaker 2: Roster was constructed, particularly as it pertains to the power play.

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Speaker 2: We brought, the penalty kill, we brought up to him

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Speaker 2: and he didn't even realize this US was eighteen for eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Probably that's as good as you're going to get. And

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Speaker 2: some of that he's talking about left shot, right shot,

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Speaker 2: being able to get the face offs when you need

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Speaker 2: them as well, all of those things factoring into it.

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Speaker 2: It was a very good, wide ranging discussion with Wallsey,

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Speaker 2: who eventually got to the wild itself and his belief.

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Speaker 3: That a sneaky need in his mind.

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Speaker 2: Is for a fifth or sixth defenseman that he thinks

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Speaker 2: should be a part of the equation. He acknowledged it's

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Speaker 2: not as sexy as getting the big time center right,

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Speaker 2: but he thinks this should be part of the discussion

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 4: Interesting to hear speaking to McDavid, you know who killed

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Speaker 4: us in the Four Nations. We somehow left him wide

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Speaker 4: open in front of the net in overtime a year ago.

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Speaker 4: As we all recall, my hockey sources, including Brandon Maleski,

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Speaker 4: very uninspired by his effort back checking on the game. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and you watch it and it's like, because there's some

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Speaker 4: theory too, It's like, well, he thought the other guy

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Speaker 4: had and then he was going to get the pocket up. Yes,

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Speaker 4: but I'm watching him going, man that that was not

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Speaker 4: great effort by by at least one and maybe two

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Speaker 4: of the Canadians there, and a critical critical. It didn't

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Speaker 4: get any more critical. And again, here's what's the irony

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 2: You know, hockey people love to rip basketball effort, right,

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Speaker 2: that's effort, that's is that not effort at the and

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Speaker 2: you're talking about effort, not in a regular season game,

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Speaker 2: the second period over time of the gold medal game,

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Speaker 2: and that did not look like blue collar.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Whatever we have to do to win the game in

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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. I've got a buddy, writes

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Speaker 2: Mike from Stacy with his wife who's in Mexico, hopefully

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Speaker 2: getting out tomorrow. So as I said, I'm sure there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of people who are in that boat,

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Speaker 2: and maybe some things are moving pretty quickly here headed

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Speaker 2: in the better directions as well. All Right, thanks again

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Speaker 2: for listening today. Don't forget louis part of the show.

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Speaker 2: We will revisit with Kevin Siever get caught up on

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff, including tragedy hitting the Vikings program

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Speaker 2: as well, and he is in Indianapolis tomorrow. Combine week

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Speaker 2: for all our guys, so there'll be a bunch of

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Speaker 2: stuff to discuss with him, some serious, some more.

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Speaker 3: Toy department related.

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Speaker 2: Again, thanks for watching, Thank you for listening, Fan and

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Speaker 2: de Man tonight and then it's the Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow. Three