WEBVTT - Friday Mornings with Jack Windsor

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<v Speaker 1>The talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>bookmark the ohio press network.com my guest jack windsor uh

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<v Speaker 2>posts things over there he closely follows a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>shenanigans as i like to call it going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the uh Well, in the state of Ohio, generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>and even issues on national attention, Jack Windsor, good to

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<v Speaker 2>see you this morning. I'm glad I got you on Zoom,

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<v Speaker 2>and thanks for joining the 55K to See Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian. Go ahead. Sorry. I just say good to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for choosing me. Good to see you. And Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize. My voice is a little worn out today.

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<v Speaker 1>I attended my first Cleveland Browns game in probably several

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<v Speaker 1>years last night. So late night and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>vocal cords strained. I bet.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just want to. Quickly interject some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>derogatory comment about $ 600 million of taxpayer money going into

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<v Speaker 2>the coffers of the Cleveland Browns' privately owned sports franchise,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll just let that one go. We have the

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<v Speaker 2>same problem here, as you well know, Jack. I just

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<v Speaker 2>am absolutely against that concept. I find it offensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Pay for your own damn stadiums. Anyway, Jack Windsor, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't call to talk about that. New developments. You're following

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<v Speaker 2>this Ismail Mohamed case. I know you have some new developments.

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<v Speaker 2>Reset and remind my listeners, in the thumbnail sketch, what

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<v Speaker 2>got us to this point?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there are so many moving pieces here. I

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<v Speaker 1>will go as far into the weeds on this as

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<v Speaker 1>you want because I promise you we're covering this at

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<v Speaker 1>a depth and breadth that no other outlet in the

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<v Speaker 1>country is. Columbus State Representative Ishmael Muhammad, he's an attorney,

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<v Speaker 1>and he told the elections board under oath that he

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<v Speaker 1>signed his mortgage. his tax break form, and his ethics

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<v Speaker 1>disclosure without reading any of them. And the next morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that unethical?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you would think as an attorney, right? If it's

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<v Speaker 1>not unethical, it certainly is a bad look.

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<v Speaker 2>Stupid?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very stupid. Monday at the Franklin County Board of Elections,

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<v Speaker 1>the hearing ran nearly 10 hours. And Muhammad is a

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat representing House District 3, Columbus's North Side. His opponent

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<v Speaker 1>is Bernadine Kennedy Kent. She challenged his residency. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>former Democrat state rep who beat him in 2018 in

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<v Speaker 1>the primary there. And she's now running on the Republican ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>Muhammad testified he spends weekdays in an apartment in his district,

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<v Speaker 1>weekends and holidays at his $ 587, 000 house on Heather Ridge

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<v Speaker 1>Drive in Delaware County. And he bought that house in

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<v Speaker 1>October 2025. Now, the board, interestingly... Brian voted three to

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<v Speaker 1>one on Monday to let him keep his registration and

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<v Speaker 1>how that all went down with the board of elections.

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<v Speaker 1>Chairman is an entirely separate can of worms that we

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<v Speaker 1>could spend a whole hour on. But just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things that Ishmael Muhammad has, he has

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<v Speaker 1>an issue because he said under oath that he made

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<v Speaker 1>false statements on a mortgage document. He said under oath

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<v Speaker 1>that he completed a tax form incorrectly. He said under oath,

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't list his investment property on his financial

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<v Speaker 1>disclosure form, which is required of state lawmakers. He admitted

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<v Speaker 1>all of that under oath. I would expect that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see some additional investigations. But in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>those things, he still has $ 93, 000 in cash missing from

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<v Speaker 1>his campaign coffers that he can't pin down anywhere. We

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<v Speaker 1>also have uncovered, he testified Monday under oath, that the

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<v Speaker 1>investment property, that the investment, I'm using air quotes, property

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<v Speaker 1>that he has in Delaware County that he intended to

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<v Speaker 1>rent out. So the question was followed up with, well,

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<v Speaker 1>have you rented it out? And he said, well, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have this plan and, you know, we could

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<v Speaker 1>use like Airbnb, VRBO was what I took from what

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<v Speaker 1>he said. Well, we did a little digging and unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>for Ishmael Muhammad, the homeowners association where that home is

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<v Speaker 1>located does not allow that type of transient renting. So

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<v Speaker 1>now he has that issue. Oh, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>he has another LLC that I think we've identified that

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<v Speaker 1>is also not listed on his financial disclosure form. So

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<v Speaker 1>this guy has a truckload of issues. And as it

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<v Speaker 1>stands right now, he's still a qualified elector in his district.

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<v Speaker 1>But I expect that we're going to see some more

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<v Speaker 1>on this case down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would expect. Going back to the missing $ 93, 000,

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<v Speaker 2>was he asked questions about that? You said that still

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't been accounted for.

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<v Speaker 1>So, no. Well, let me back up. This was like

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<v Speaker 1>10 hours, his hearing. And so I got through most

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<v Speaker 1>of it. And then I had to prepare for my

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<v Speaker 1>radio show. And then I had to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>read reports and notes. This weekend, I planned to, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm a partier. I'm such a crazy guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to actually listen to the last few hours

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<v Speaker 1>of that to make sure that I take it all in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a case that we've covered from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do not believe he was asked about the

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<v Speaker 1>$ 93, 000 as much, only because this hearing was more about

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<v Speaker 1>his residency. Where do you live? I do know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of State's office is still looking into many

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<v Speaker 1>of his financial disclosure forms, but I also have to

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<v Speaker 1>report that they fined him $ 1, 200 Tuesday. He testified on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>On Tuesday, it came out that he was fined $ 1, 200, one,

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<v Speaker 1>for not reporting a loan properly, and then two, for

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<v Speaker 1>not completing his financial disclosure forms appropriately. But we're still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pin down the $ 93, 000. That's another separate issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if the hammer to fully fall down on this

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<v Speaker 2>guy because of these obvious improprieties, what is the result

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<v Speaker 2>of that? What do you anticipate would happen to him?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I've got to be very careful here. But if

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Bureau of Investigations is not looking into this

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<v Speaker 1>guy and looking into everything that we just talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>then I think the 14th Amendment is a joke. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know where I'm going with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's a lawmaker. And, Brian, if you and I

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<v Speaker 1>did this, our asses would be in prison already. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make no joke about that. So I expect that

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a lot more scrutiny. At least

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<v Speaker 1>I hope there is.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he a flight risk? Don't go away. I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>No, when you, I want to, well, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>take a break, but there's something on that that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow. I opened a new can of worms. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>dive into it when we get back with Jack Windsor. Plus,

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk about what's going on at Garver Farms

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<v Speaker 2>in Butler County more with aislepressnetwork.com's Jack Windsor. Don't go away.

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<v Speaker 1>55KRC. com. The Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 2>840-55-KRTV Talk Station. Brian Thomas with Jack Windsor from TheOhioPressNetwork.com.

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<v Speaker 2>Check out his radio program. Check out his website and

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<v Speaker 2>listen to what he has to say and follow what

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<v Speaker 2>he is following, including I made that sort of joking,

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<v Speaker 2>at least I thought it was a joking comment about

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<v Speaker 2>Ismail Mohammed since you mentioned the feds and federal investigators

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<v Speaker 2>pursuing presumably federal crimes involved in these underlying shenanigans. I joked,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, is he a flight risk? And there

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<v Speaker 2>must have been something to that because you apparently had

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<v Speaker 2>some points to make on that. Jack Windsor, please do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to be careful when you talk under oath, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that gets recorded and it can be used against

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<v Speaker 1>you later. One interesting bit of information that we uncovered

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<v Speaker 1>before the hearing that he was asked about, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>he was served a subpoena at his investment property. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not at his investment property, in my opinion, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>where he was served a subpoena. And the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the next day, he changed his

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<v Speaker 1>address to another address in his district. So he was asked,

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<v Speaker 1>did you live in that first address the entirety up

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<v Speaker 1>until a few days ago? He said, well, yeah, I did. Okay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>subpoenaed records from American Electric Power show that at that

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<v Speaker 1>property he claims to live at, between January and March

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<v Speaker 1>of 2026, the power was out. And you go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a bad time, right? January. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you remember, Brian, it was nine degrees below zero in January.

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently he lived there at nine below zero. And

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<v Speaker 1>the interesting part was when he was confronted with that fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that set of facts at Monday's hearing, he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot. I was out of the country for a

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<v Speaker 1>while and then lived with my mom during that time.

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<v Speaker 1>So technically it was my address, but I wasn't there

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<v Speaker 1>And so you go, oh, you were out of the country?

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<v Speaker 1>So to your question, is he a flight risk, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ask that tongue-in-cheek, but I don't know. Is he?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, where'd he go? Back to Somalia? I would

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<v Speaker 1>say yes, he is a flight risk. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, honestly, under the circumstances, if he fled

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<v Speaker 2>to Somalia or anyplace else in the four corners of

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<v Speaker 2>the globe, it would relieve us of the obligation to

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<v Speaker 2>have to continue following up this and pursue criminal charges,

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<v Speaker 2>saving the taxpayers a tremendous amount of money for what

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be an open and shut case.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack? I am going to shake my head and say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stating my opinion, and I fully agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Go ahead, Ismael. Head on out. We'll just

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<v Speaker 2>call it. We'll stick a fork in it and call

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<v Speaker 2>it done. Pivoting over, what's going on at Garver Farms

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<v Speaker 2>in Butler County, Jack Windsor?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, we uncovered something else here, too. We didn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>was already percolating, right? The Garvers have farmed in Lemon

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<v Speaker 1>Township since 1926, and on March 17th, the county's Board

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<v Speaker 1>of Zoning Appeals voted four to one in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>the farm. There were some alleged infractions, right? And the

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<v Speaker 1>Zoning Appeals Board said, no, we side with the farm

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<v Speaker 1>four to one. The county under the prosecutor appealed that

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<v Speaker 1>Board of Zoning Appeals decision. And Judge Greg Stevens in

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<v Speaker 1>the Common Police Court threw it out and said, the

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<v Speaker 1>county doesn't have standing in this matter. You can't just

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<v Speaker 1>appeal when the county that you represent has what you

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<v Speaker 1>think is, you know, an adverse opinion. and uh well

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<v Speaker 1>you would think that would be over but on september

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<v Speaker 1>23rd prosecutor mike moser filed again this time with the

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<v Speaker 1>12th district court of appeals so uh i had elena

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<v Speaker 1>uh garver in my studio earlier this week for about

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<v Speaker 1>three segments and she unpacked a lot of information Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>with respect to how this situation with Garver Farms is

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<v Speaker 1>being handled.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, do you know what Moser's problem is with Garver Farms?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the underlying zoning issue or the four-to-one decision based on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he said that they built a supermarket, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they don't have the appropriate paperwork. He compared

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<v Speaker 1>the family's explanation to why they don't have that to

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<v Speaker 1>a kid telling the teacher that the dog ate his

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<v Speaker 1>homework And what I've gathered is that the family went

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<v Speaker 1>to the powers that be and asked if they needed

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<v Speaker 1>to file paperwork or something different. And they said, well, no.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I dug into that a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to a couple of legal experts there in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>And what they told me was there was really no

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<v Speaker 1>reason for them to file anything because they're considered agriculture.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of a open, closed, shut, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call it. But Mosier has said that the

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<v Speaker 1>public is misinformed, that he's going to file a brief,

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<v Speaker 1>that this is not personal, though I would question that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're starting to uncover some stuff there. And he also

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<v Speaker 1>said that it is a public safety matter. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>asked him twice now what that specific public safety issue is.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you name it? Can you give me the public

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<v Speaker 1>records that show that that exists? And he's not yet answered.

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<v Speaker 1>or turned over public records to prove to me that

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<v Speaker 1>that's an accurate statement.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so far, based upon what I know from you

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<v Speaker 2>just this morning on this topic, I'm with you, Jack Windsor.

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<v Speaker 2>I smell a rat, too. We'll see what happens, because

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<v Speaker 2>we'll wait to get the final analysis. We'll wait to

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<v Speaker 2>get the brief and see where he's coming from and

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<v Speaker 2>draw our conclusions after that. Jack Windsor from the Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>Press Network. Don't go away. It is 850 at 55K

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<v Speaker 2>or CD Talk Station. Happy Friday. Jack Windsor from the

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio Press Network. Well, let's close out Friday's show with

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<v Speaker 2>a few segments with Jack. Interesting stuff it is. As always,

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<v Speaker 2>get on, bookmark his page, OhioPressNetwork.com. You have polling information

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<v Speaker 2>we can talk about and actually believe Jack Windsor, or

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<v Speaker 2>is this the same kind of stuff that we've been

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<v Speaker 2>reading over and over again, trying to convince Republicans that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, don't even bother. You're going to be completely,

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<v Speaker 2>have your clock cleaned completely, so just stay home. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that really what these polls are all about, Jack? Or

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<v Speaker 2>have you found something that we can actually say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, that looks pretty right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me go right to the heart of it

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<v Speaker 1>instead of giving you the political answer. So a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things are true. We're seeing polling similar to what

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen in 2018, 2022, and 2024. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican, you remember in the fall, the sky's falling, right?

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<v Speaker 1>DeWine trailed Cordray in 2018. In 22, J.D. Vance trailed

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Ryan. In 24, Bernie Marino trailed Sherrod Brown. And

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<v Speaker 1>in all of those instances, Republicans won. And so these

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<v Speaker 1>polls that we see traditionally are somewhere between 6% and 9% wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning they lean toward the Democrat. Here's the one caveat

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always careful about, though. If the tide does turn,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what it would look like, right? So even

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<v Speaker 1>though history tells us in this case, it looks like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Brown is up 51 to 43 over Husted and acting

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<v Speaker 1>up over Ramaswamy 50 to 44. Uh, if the tide

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<v Speaker 1>was turning, that's how they would look. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you look back over history and you go, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of within that band where we we've seen this movie before. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think what we have to really be careful

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<v Speaker 1>of is look at each of those candidates in each

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<v Speaker 1>of those races. And I, I'll say it this way

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<v Speaker 1>and then ask any questions that you want. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Sherrod Brown, John Husted race is wholly different than

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<v Speaker 1>the Vivek Ramaswamy, Amy Acton race for a couple of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, Sherrod Brown has one of the most durable

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<v Speaker 1>brands in Ohio politics. True. Love him, hate him. He

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<v Speaker 1>gets people to turn out and he gets a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of votes. That puts John Husted in a pickle. There

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<v Speaker 1>are some Republicans that are still upset with John Husted

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<v Speaker 1>because he did not disconnect his wagon from Mike DeWine

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<v Speaker 1>during COVID. And then, of course, the Democrats down the

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<v Speaker 1>stretch here are going to talk a lot about House

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<v Speaker 1>Bill 6, so on and so forth. Now, I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>in my humble opinion, John Husted's in a tougher position

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<v Speaker 1>than Vivek Ramaswamy for a couple of reasons. Vivek has money.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to spend it. And he's going to do

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<v Speaker 1>everything that he can to make sure that he wins

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<v Speaker 1>that office. He also has a competitor who has a

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<v Speaker 1>slew of personal issues. And by the way, we have

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<v Speaker 1>experience with her, not as an elected official. but as

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<v Speaker 1>an incompetent doctor who partially led Ohio's COVID response. So

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<v Speaker 1>I look at Vivek's race, and I say he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>in a better position. But then I also have to

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<v Speaker 1>caveat that with he's not a Christian. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>funny last name. He has brown skin. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in some circles in the Republican Party, that tamps down turnout.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're the ones I'm pissed off at, Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time I hear that, I'm like, it's 2026. You

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<v Speaker 2>got a guy that if he was a white guy

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<v Speaker 2>and he had a name like– Jack Windsor, then you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be all over him. Oh, my God, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest thing. He's straight out of central casting. Okay, because

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<v Speaker 2>he's named Vivek Ramaswamy because he's Hindu, that makes him... Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>you hit a nerve with that one, man. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>hearing that from people, and I just want to punch

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<v Speaker 2>him in the face metaphorically.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm with you. I can't tell you how many

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<v Speaker 1>times I hear, this one really makes me mad. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an anchor baby, and all the Gripers love to

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<v Speaker 1>complain about his ethnicity. It's gross. It's racist. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like it. But then once you get out of the

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<v Speaker 1>woods there, then he gets clobbered over the head with, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a billionaire. I look at that. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say this explicitly. It's okay to like Vivek Ramaswamy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to like success. Because frankly, when I look

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<v Speaker 1>at my kids, I want them to succeed. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want them to be failures. I don't want them to

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<v Speaker 1>be addicted to pills and alcohol. I want them to

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<v Speaker 1>be good human beings who are productive. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at this and I go, it's a clear

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<v Speaker 1>winner in my book. This is my opinion. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure... Ohioans are seeing that at the scale that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I would like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you don't have to demonize the man because

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<v Speaker 2>he is so successful. Listen, first off, I know you

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<v Speaker 2>want your children to be as successful as Vivek Ramaswamy.

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<v Speaker 2>Get them a good education. Let them go into free society.

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<v Speaker 2>They may be able to accomplish that. But if they're

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<v Speaker 2>like me, you can measure success a different way and

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<v Speaker 2>be thankful that there's a guy like Ramaswamy employing people

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<v Speaker 2>like me in some capacity as a W-2 employee. Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm not an entrepreneurial-minded person. But you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to put in a hard day's work. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>willing to earn an income. without having started a business.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what makes the world go around. So embrace

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<v Speaker 2>Vivek Ramasamy and also be thankful that he's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to office to get rich. He's already done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. You know, I had a conversation with him

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<v Speaker 1>last week and I have an event where he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be featured tonight. And I said, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I want you to be prepared

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<v Speaker 1>to answer Vivek is why, why are you doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Because Brian, if I were his age and a billionaire,

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<v Speaker 1>I quit. Go get a yacht and chill for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's got to be something to this well beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to use the state and its people

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<v Speaker 1>to get wealthier. I don't think it's that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he loves he loves Ohio. He loves his upbringing.

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<v Speaker 2>He loves the city of Cincinnati. He's willing to give back.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people like him who are driven to work

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<v Speaker 2>and prosper and do well. And he's done so well

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<v Speaker 2>for himself. He's sharing the love with everybody else. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's awesome. Jack, I find no problem at all

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<v Speaker 2>with that man, and I just really scratch my head

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<v Speaker 2>and wonder how in God's name even a skewed pole

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<v Speaker 2>could have Amy acting ahead.