1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Okay. Text line is burning up a lot of reaction 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: to Lisa's call, both pro and Kahn, both for and against. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: This is from seven to eight to one, Jeff your caller. 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: Lisa said Trump has to save the world. I disagree. 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: He is the leader of the United States of America 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: and he promised no more globalism. Trying to save other 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: countries is the platform of the neo cons and the globalists. 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Trump promised to be different. Also, Lisa said, we have 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: to trust Trump. No, in a republic, we don't trust anyone. 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: We trust the system of checks and balances. And if 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Trump gets squashed in the midterms, it's because the American 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: public will have rejected his policy. So people like Lisa 13 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: will inadvertently cause the renewed rise of the Democrats. Is 14 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: that what she wants? In other words, seven eighty one 15 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: is saying that it's Trump's policies, especially I guess this 16 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: war that may lead to a historic defeat in the midterms, 17 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: and that Trump will have no one to blame but himself. 18 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in seven eight one's mouth, 19 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: but I think that's the gist of this text message. Agree, disagree? 20 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Are you worried? About rising gas prices. Trump says it 21 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: is short term pain for long term peace. Do you 22 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: believe them? And are you willing to absorb or pay 23 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: the price in order to win the war in Iran? 24 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight 25 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: is the number Marlene in wallfam. Thanks for holding Marlene. 26 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: And welcome. 27 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, Jeff, Hi Marl. I just want a couple 28 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: of clarification. Gas prices going up because we're a war, 29 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: but we're gonna get our gas from over there. I 30 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: don't understand this. The other thing I don't understand is 31 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: what needs to happen in order for NATO to get involved. 32 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 3: That way, they could be the boots in the ground 33 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: and not us. And the last thing is we are 34 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: in it, so what can we do to give some opinion, guidance, 35 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: ideas to our precedent. I think you're doing that actually 36 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: now more than before, and I love that because he 37 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: needs all the help to get I think that's what 38 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: I think. Thank you, Jeff. 39 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: Well, Marlene. Look, the answer to your question is NATO 40 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: does not want to get involved. The Europeans never want 41 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: to help us as much as they can, so they 42 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: want us to do the heavy lifting now, you know, privately, 43 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: the German chancellor has said, yeah, we fear Iran, We 44 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: worry about them having a nuclear weapon, We worry about 45 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: them getting a ballistic missile system that could reach Europe. 46 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Really it's it's very hard for them to develop what's 47 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: called an ICBM, an intercontinental ballistic missile that could reach 48 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, remember Iran is what is it six eight 49 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: thousand miles away. I mean, it's very far from the 50 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: United States, So for them to be able to reach 51 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: US is very, very difficult. Even North Korea, which is 52 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: in the you know, Pacific, and they're a nuclear power. 53 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: You know, they're lucky if they can reach Hawaii or Guam. 54 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: So it's it's really Europe that's going to be obviously 55 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: the Middle East, but Europe that's in the crosshairs. And 56 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: yet the Germans won't even you know, forget troops. They 57 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: won't even throw you know, five years into the pot. 58 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: So the Europeans want to stay out of it because 59 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: they always stay out of it because they want us 60 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: to do the fighting and the dying. Now, as for 61 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: why we're seeing higher prices in the United States, remember 62 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: that the United States, Yeah, we're the now as we speak, 63 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: we are the biggest oil producer in the world. We 64 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: produce more oil even than Saudi Arabia. But we have contracts, 65 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: long term contracts with many countries to supply them with oil. 66 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're turning out, you know, oil at a 67 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: record pace, record output. But you know, we've got deals, 68 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, for the Europeans, for the Asians, for other 69 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: countries around the world. So we're we're at full capacity 70 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: in terms of what we can turn out. And yes, 71 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: some of it goes to us, but some of it 72 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: we ex so we're still at the mercy of world 73 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: oil markets. It's not as if, you know, if we 74 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: were having oil only for ourselves, then we could weather this. 75 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: But we're selling a lot of our oil to countries 76 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: around the world, and we've signed contracts with them, so 77 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: we can't just say, hey, you know what oil is 78 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: going up, I'm sorry. We want to, you know, resupply 79 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: it to our people so they don't pay higher prices. 80 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: We're locked into these contracts. So that's why if price, 81 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, the price of oil per barrel goes up, 82 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: it goes up here. And look, I think Trump knew 83 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: the price of oil is going to go up. I 84 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: think he's banking on a very quick, decisive victory, so 85 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: he thinks in about three more weeks the war is over, 86 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: and when the war is over, gas and oil prices 87 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: will come back down fingers crossed. That's all I can say. Okay, Kooner, Country, 88 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: I want all of you to know I have not 89 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: forgotten about the Save Act. I give you my word. 90 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: It now looks like the Republican leadership does not want 91 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: to pass it, so I'm gonna be discussing that tomorrow. 92 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to put maximum pressure now on John Thune, 93 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: on John Cornyn, his right hand man, and get them 94 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: to break the filibuster so we can pass the Save Act, 95 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: stop voter fraud and save the midterms, because without fraud, 96 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: I seriously doubt the Democrats can win. Six one seven, 97 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: But that's for tomorrow show. Six one seven two six 98 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: six sixty eight, sixty eight is the number. Okay, let's 99 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: go to John in Malden. Thanks for holding John, and welcome. 100 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: Oh mine, Jeff, Hi John Country. Thing. I'm with Trump 101 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: no matter what happens. I'm I'm in deep with him 102 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: no matter what. But no boots on the ground, I 103 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: would rethink things, don't Lindsey Graham or any other people 104 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: who wanted him to put boots on the ground, find 105 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: out where those deep bunkers are and try, you know, 106 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: try to penetrate to them with the planes in the air, 107 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: and also with uranium. No uranium, blow it up, get 108 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: rid of it. If we can't have it, no one 109 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: else can have it. Nothing Too is anothering Too is 110 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: the leader of iron right now. You gotta take him 111 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: out because to me, he's gonna end up being the 112 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: one that's gonna make no dramas uh predictable. His predictions 113 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: will come true because we'll be World War three and 114 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: he's not gonna take a light about his father being dead. 115 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: So we gotta take him out too. Anyhow, that's John. 116 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: Look, I gotta tell you, I think the israel I 117 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: mean we're either us or the Israelis are going to 118 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: do it. But I think Israel is going to take 119 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: him out, probably by the end of the week. If 120 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: I were him, I think he's a dead man. When 121 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: he came out and called for a holy war, not 122 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: only he said no surrender, a fight to death, a 123 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: fight to the end, saying no surrender under any circumstances. 124 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: That's a military a religious order. A Dick taught that. 125 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: He gave okay, almost like the Catholic version would be 126 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: like a papal bull. He came out and called for 127 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: a holy war against the United States. I said, he 128 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: just signed his own death warrant. And this is John, 129 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: this is why if i'm your sense well, you know, Cooner, 130 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: you seem nervous about this war whatever, it's only because 131 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: I know the Muslims and I know that part of 132 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: the world. You know, you tell him, this is what's 133 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: different when you fight a radical Islamist. You tell him, 134 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, as you say this, you're a dead man. 135 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: You know that. I mean, you're a dead man. 136 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: Look. 137 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: Your country's being bombed all around it. It's rubble all 138 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: around you. Look what you're facing. You're facing a military juggernaut. 139 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: And just to stand back for a second, John, do 140 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: you know how many what billions, tens and tens of 141 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: billions of dollars the Ayatolas have invested in Hasbellah, in Hamas, 142 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: in these ballistic missiles, in their nuclear program, in building 143 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: up their navy and buying all these fighter jets. They've 144 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: been you know, the Russians and the Chinese. They've been 145 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: paying them top dollar for all these air interceptors, air defenses. 146 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: This has been a thirty year project for them, and 147 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: it's being flushed down to toilet in eight days. I mean, 148 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: it's gone. It's all gone. Like imagine you or I 149 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: or this audience. Right, we're Western, Okay, we're not just American. 150 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: We're Western. We're rational, and we're like thirty years of work, 151 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: thirty years of sacrifice, blood, sweat and toil, it's gone. 152 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: It's all gone. And not only is it all gone, 153 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 1: it's all destroyed. And everything around you is being destroyed. 154 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: And you're what would your rational you say, Hey, look, 155 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know what to tell you. It's over. 156 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's over, Like I don't know what to say. 157 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: It was like a fighter in a ring, and it's 158 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: like you're getting beaten and beaten and beaten and beaten 159 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: and beaten. Eventually the manager says, no, you're going to 160 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: suffer permanent brain damage or you're gonna get killed, and 161 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't want you to die. I'm throwing into towel 162 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: and everybody says, yes, good decision. No, this guy says, 163 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: keep going and keep going and keep going. Why because 164 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: it's a death cult. Because for him, the greatest thing 165 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: that could happen to him now is if he got killed. 166 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: You say, well, you know you're a dead man. You 167 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: know that you're a dead man walking. Maybe you got 168 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: what five days six days before you're dead? Oh great, 169 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: I got my seventy two virgins. Bring it on. They're suicidal. 170 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: These people are nuts, They're irrational. They welcome death, they 171 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: welcome martyrdom. He's gonna die as a martyr for a llah. 172 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: For him, that's the I'm not kidding, that's the greatest 173 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: thing you can do with your life. A ya yai. 174 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: So you know you're right. I think they're gonna take 175 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: him out. They have no choice but to take him out. 176 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna leave this guy in power. This guy wants 177 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: to fight a war now for a thousand years. 178 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: Now. 179 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: As to your first point, look, I gotta say this, John, 180 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: and this is the question I wanted to ask you. 181 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: You say you're with Trump, you trust Trump, you believe 182 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: he's got a plan, He's a winner, he always finds 183 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: a way to win. I hear you. But you don't 184 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: like boots on the ground, just for the sake of argument, John, Okay, 185 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: humor me. Trump decides, for whatever reason, we've got to 186 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: send in boots on the ground to get the enriched 187 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: uranium out to eventually topple the regime whatever it is. 188 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: Will John in Malden still support Trump or will you 189 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: say that's a bridge too far? 190 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: Jeff, I will still support them no matter what. But 191 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: he's got to think very clearly that other people trying 192 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: to put in his head about putting boots on the 193 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: ground and the courage that they're right. They don't want 194 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: to get involved because they know the Iran soldiers are 195 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: ready for us, for anybody come and tack them, attacks them. 196 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: And the thing is, during these low these bunkers are 197 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: deep in ground. I'd say, try to penetrate to the 198 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: bunkers and get to them as as you can. That's 199 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: the only thing I can think of. But I will 200 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: on his decision, But he's going to have to rethink 201 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 2: it very clearly, because you know, no more bloodshed for 202 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: the Americans. You know, it's just a matter of. 203 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 5: The these soldiers, even tho they're putting their lives on 204 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 5: the line for us, but you know it's gonna be 205 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 5: like a like another Vietnam, you know, to get. 206 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: On the ground. Who knows what's going to happen. 207 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 3: Take them. 208 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: You know, these these soldiers you know from our from 209 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: our end, can pop out of anywhere and we don't 210 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: know the area is still that well. And that's why 211 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: I say, you know, the courage, Hopefully they have ears 212 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: and let us know what's going on without getting too 213 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: much involved. That's basically what I have to say. 214 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: I think it's wise words, very very wise words, John, 215 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: and thank you for that call. Yeah, this, I think 216 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: this is what the White House is starting to realize. 217 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: I know it's being discussed in the inner circle. They're saying, 218 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: there's no appetite for this. Well, you know, I'm mister president. 219 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: You know, I hear you. I hear you, everybody hears you. 220 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: But look, you got John and Maldon. You know, I'm 221 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: a diehard drump guy. I'm with him to the end 222 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: no matter what. And Cheryl support him. He sends in troops. 223 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: I'll back them. But I don't know, mister President, like 224 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, they could be with this could be a trap, 225 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: it could be an ambush, and nobody wants to see 226 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Americans coming home in body bags, And that's why I'm saying, 227 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: don't put the boots on the ground. You don't need 228 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: to put the boots on the ground. Don't put the 229 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: boots on the ground anyway, just my opinion. Paul in 230 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: South Boston. Thanks for holding Paul, and welcome. 231 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 6: Uh Jiff. I just wanted to say that with there's 232 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 6: any war in history, I'm gonna get kind of philosophical, 233 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 6: but there's any war that we've ever participated in, any war, 234 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 6: you can make a very strong argument, a good one 235 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 6: why not to go to war, make good arguments to 236 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 6: go to war. But my point is that ands they're 237 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 6: all valve the points you make, Jeff. 238 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: Paul, do me a favor. I'm up against the break. 239 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: Please don't think I'm censoring you. 240 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: I'm not. 241 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go right back to Paul in South Boston. Paul, 242 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: you are making the point you go through almost every 243 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: war in our history's past, in our country's history, that 244 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: you know it's you can be for it, you can 245 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: be against it. There can be arguments for or against. 246 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: Please pick up where you left off, Paul. 247 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: Wait that all those points are good and they're valid. 248 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: The ones you make are very rational, illogical. There's argument 249 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: on other side, but I think what I what I 250 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 4: want to say is that people want a nice ending 251 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: to something. They want to me you know, how do 252 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: we get out of this? That's what's what's the outcome. 253 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: And my point is this is not a fun one, 254 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: but it's it never ends, just it never ever ends. 255 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: Donald Trump's not gonna stop Islamic extremism. He's not gonna 256 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: stop for communism. He's not gonna stop. He's not gonna 257 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: put an end to communism. All we can do is 258 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: fight against it, maybe limit its spread, or maybe make 259 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: them start from scratch. If they're gonna do it, make 260 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 4: them do it, Make another president allow them to do it. 261 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: Let's let's let some other president drop a couple of 262 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: billion dollars on a tarmac. If they want to start 263 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 4: it all over, that's gonna be so. Donald Trump's not 264 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: gonna end. It's not the end of the end all 265 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: because it never ends. Just like you said, Jeff, uh 266 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: these islam experience they are defficult. If I remember correctly, 267 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: I believe nine to eleven and even October seventh, I 268 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 4: don't believe we were or in the Middle East when 269 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: those occurred. So if we think that somehow this is 270 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: gonna spawn more terrorist attacks, that's that's not gonna make 271 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: any difference. They're gonna do it. They're just gonna do it. 272 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: We can't stop it. There's nothing you can do. The 273 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: only thing you can do is maybe slow it down. 274 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: Maybe you can do it, maybe you can buy some time. 275 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 6: We're not gonna this piece of great. 276 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: I mean, it may seem like there's some piece, but 277 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 4: it has to be kept up by future presidents as 278 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: we go, as we move into society. President's come, I'm 279 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 4: gonna say, Okay, it's coming up to them to either 280 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: let them stop the whole nuclear prob back over again. 281 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 4: It's not like they had an ICBM on the launch pad, 282 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 4: we're gonna aim at us and we had to take 283 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: them out. It's it's everything that they have to get to. 284 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: That point is we have to we have to prevent it, 285 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: because I don't think it's not like they want to 286 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: launch they're gonna launch ICBM at us or using nuclear 287 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 4: warhead against this, but it's the other things, answering terrorism, 288 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: financing terrorism, everything that they do is to have it, 289 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 4: to have that in their arsenal. That makes it even easier. 290 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 4: They're going to be the loudest voice on the block. 291 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: They're going to have the. 292 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 4: Power, and it's that's what we have to understand. But 293 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 4: it's it's not like there's gonna be any peace treat 294 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 4: And I don't care if you sign something in a 295 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 4: big hall of mirrors and like some peace agreement. It's 296 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: never going to end. All you can do is combat 297 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: it and do the best thing you can slow it 298 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: down somehow, somehow prevent more death. You're not gonna stop it. 299 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: It's just not gonna happen, Jeff, what say you? 300 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Well, Paul, look, you make a lot of points. What 301 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: I can just say is this Trump's hope is that 302 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: and it's a look, I think it's a very noble hope. 303 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole world wants this to happen, which 304 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: is that the Ayatollas go, that their regime falls, that 305 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: the Islamic Republic as it's called, comes to an end, 306 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: and that you get sober leadership, in other words, something better. 307 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: It may be a dictatorship, or it may be a 308 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: monarchy or whatever, but it's a rational monarchy, you know. 309 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: In other words, it's not a regime that's going to 310 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: destabilize its neighbors, constantly chant death to America. Because what 311 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: people don't understand is say, well, we can't let Islam 312 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: have the bomb. Jeff, Islam already has the bomb. Pakistan 313 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: is a nuclear power. Thanks Bill Clinton. To me, that 314 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: was a huge mistake. We never should have allowed that 315 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: to happen. But forget it, it's happened. It's there. Now. 316 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: Why do we still tolerated Because the leadership of Pakistan, 317 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: although I don't like them, are semi rational, semi sane. 318 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: You know, they had chance. There was a big, you know, 319 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: a big border skirmish what was it last year, and 320 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: Trump had to intervene to mediate. But you know, India 321 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: and Pakistan ride each other's throats. India is a nuclear power. 322 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: Pakistan is a nuclear power. 323 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: You know. 324 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: Trump was right to say, hey, look guys, you know, 325 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: nobody realizes this, this could have been World War III, 326 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: like things could have escalated. 327 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: Now. 328 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: To be fair, the Pakistani government backed down a bit, 329 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: the Indian government backed down a little bit, and they 330 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: pulled back from the brink. So you know, I think 331 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: the hold for Iran is that you get at least 332 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: a government or a regime that is stable that is 333 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: not obsessed with getting nuclear weapons, will not threaten or 334 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: menace Europe and its neighbors, that wants to live in 335 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: peace and harmony. And look, Iran has so many natural resources, 336 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: and not just oil. They've got so much I mean 337 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: just I mean, look at the videos of Iran in 338 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies under the Shaw and he was 339 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: quite brutal. Let's be honest, but man, how that it 340 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: is like the French riviera on the on the Persian 341 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Gulf