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Speaker 2: I'm the one that does the Brazilian before, sir and everything, like,

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Speaker 1: It's being escalated. I will tell you that.

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Speaker 2: Now people are very critical of the president as bombs

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Speaker 1: We've got all of this happening. He was out, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's through a suit. Look at that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what mister Trump has taught me.

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Speaker 2: He's going to start, He's going to reveal Dean deodorantes.

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Speaker 1: There's no there's Charlie, there's this has got to be

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Speaker 6: A suit because if that happens, you would wear a

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have the right shoes on, Jake Paul. True,

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Speaker 1: at nine eight eight. Yeah, that isn't too graphic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So who still plays with baseball cards? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: but who buys them? Who's buying this market somewhere? Adults? Yeah, somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if people still the people Pokemon cards,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, you've heard of goat yoga before or

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, that's gross. And what's it's supposed

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just as ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Look at these morons, all right, stupid.

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Speaker 1: But if again they're doing that, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: So is that where thank goat yoga?

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Speaker 2: Wasn't this one that him and Kim Kardashian bought together.

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Speaker 1: I think you bought it across the street from her.

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Speaker 2: And he's a hustler, right, he has his name attached

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Speaker 2: I guess, oh, fire pit he's got. Doesn't he have alcohol?

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Speaker 1: deodor and charts like he already has a deodor. They

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Speaker 1: already have everything. Like if you can imagine a product,

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Speaker 1: they have it. I thinks Shack more Shack. Oh, he

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Speaker 1: selling everything insurance.

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Speaker 4: You name worst gummy candy you've ever purchased?

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Speaker 1: Terrible?

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Speaker 4: I cannot believe that it's available for sale. It's the

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Speaker 4: worst gummies I've ever tasted.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's it called shack delicious?

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Speaker 4: Ye, Shack yeah, Shack excel or something I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: They're so terrible, so bad. Think of what everything you

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Speaker 1: so they they have charged him with a felony count

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Speaker 4: Trying about that game this guy has and he's able

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Speaker 1: That's so gross, not only in a port potty, but

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Speaker 1: a dating book. Don't charge him with a fellon. I mean,

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Speaker 1: a bad looking guy. You guys think he's bad looking yes, scruffy. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Wow, he had probably some good game, Like the one

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Speaker 1: Like, Hey, you know, Charlie and I had this discussion

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Speaker 4: Just to any prisoner out there is letting you know,

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Speaker 4: But if if she got a letter, she absolutely would

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Speaker 1: Oh, this guy's actually not What he did is just

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Speaker 1: I am, Crystal, Do you think you would do that?

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Speaker 6: The more I I I'm with my boyfriend, the more

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Speaker 6: We were just we were talking about an occupation and

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Speaker 6: Oh, they're they're in and out, in and out all

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Speaker 6: He's like, sometimes you are just to innocent girl, like

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Speaker 1: If she ever broke up with this guy, if this

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Speaker 6: Be Yeah, disgusting, YEA, take me somebody someplace a little

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Speaker 6: if we are if we immediately, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I don't, Charlie, I can't pull this up. But it

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Speaker 1: not that I saw. Did she was at another prisoner

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Speaker 4: Kind of working for the barbecue and some I'm like,

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Speaker 4: this is a barbecue.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's barbecue. Yeah, it's a sheriff's barbecue.

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Speaker 1: And it was happening at like it's the jail or

432
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Speaker 1: whatever it.

433
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Speaker 6: Was at the jail. I was wondering that too, because

434
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Speaker 6: it was at the jail, wasn't it.

435
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Speaker 1: Oh.

436
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Speaker 4: Authority's later confirmed the woman was a former inmate after

437
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 4: reviewing the footage. Oh so okay, a former inmate, so

438
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: she knew what she was getting into.

439
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: I don't see why you would charge this guy with

440
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: a felony if he tried to escape after sex, try

441
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: to run away. All he did was go You wouldn't

442
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: charge this guy with a crime for going into the

443
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: porta potty to take a dump. So only did he

444
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: went into the porta potty for a few minutes, had

445
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: sex came out? That's you can't do that. It's that

446
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: against the law.

447
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: But it's against the rules of the prison and the law.

448
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you can't have on love.

449
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 6: After lock up, they a couple of the couples talk

450
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 6: about how they sneakily try to have sex and how

451
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 6: they're not allowed to have sex. But they go, oh,

452
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 6: there's a couple of ways that you can get around it.

453
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 6: But so they are, I'm pretty sure you're not allowed

454
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Speaker 6: to engage in that kind of And if he was,

455
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Speaker 6: if you were at hey, this is your workstation and

456
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 6: this is where you're at for the day, and you're

457
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 6: not allowed to leave this area unless we say yes.

458
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 6: You know, like same as in school suspension. You can't

459
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Speaker 6: go to the bathroom unless you ask the teacher. And

460
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 6: if he went to the bathroom without anybody knowing, or

461
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 6: and he just left his workspace, I mean.

462
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Speaker 4: He was actually exactly what he got charged with, which

463
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 4: states that stepping out of assigned work area while in

464
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Speaker 4: custody can count as an escape attempt a break.

465
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Speaker 1: Charlie, let me ask you a question. If you were

466
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Speaker 1: locked up, you're in jail, you have two years left

467
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Speaker 1: on your sentence. Let's say you're working the sheriff's barbecue.

468
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: You're flipping you know, they go, oh, this guy loves

469
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: he knows how to smoke meat. This guy has quite

470
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: the history. So you're you're cooking up stuff at the

471
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: sheriff's barbecue. Woman wants to have sex with you. You got

472
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: two years left. You know what's against the rules. Do

473
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Speaker 1: you go on the porta party and screwer question? I mean,

474
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: you have nothing to look forward to. If there's no question,

475
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it. Yeah, even if they might attack

476
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: on additional time at prison, you're not going to get caught,

477
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, you'd risk that, You're like, okay, of course, right,

478
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: of course you would. I think it would be pretty

479
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: tempting to almost any normal guy. And the risk drugs

480
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: every day and alcohol.

481
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Speaker 6: They're making hoots, you know, I mean, they're doing stuff

482
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 6: all the time. I'm sure in prison that you're kind

483
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 6: of risking. If you get caught, you might have added

484
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 6: charges or added time.

485
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: So I've got to take a break. Our number is

486
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Speaker 1: eight sixty six, Yo, Rover, eight sixty six nine six

487
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: seven six eight three seven. We will be right back.

488
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: Hang on next deductions.

489
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: Go.

490
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 5: Just remember Jeffrey lo Roque, you're a simple It's rovers

491
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 5: morning glory.

492
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: Nate and Rochester sent a text message. He says, in

493
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: New York, escape carries an additional four years in a

494
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: MAX facility. When I was in a medium, I was

495
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: on an outside clearance work crew and could have easily

496
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: walked off. It wasn't worth the four extra years though.

497
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: So this guy, if he's facing four extra years now,

498
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: there is some inside Here's some inside information from somebody

499
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: who writes, my husband is the one who wrote the

500
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: report on that inmate who had sex in the Porta Partty.

501
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: This happened in Florida. The girl was his ex who

502
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: came to the bar Becuahon says, So he didn't he

503
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: didn't have incredible skills. I guess this is somebody he

504
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: already knew a lot less respect. Still good for him,

505
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: But okay, wait, I should get four extra years. No, no,

506
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: if that's what they want to hit him with. Sam,

507
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: you're on Rover's Morning Glory. Good morning, Sam, Good morning.

508
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 8: I just wanted to add I just wanted to add

509
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 8: on to that shack stuff you guys have with Carnival

510
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 8: Cruise Line. He actually has a restaurant on there called

511
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 8: the Chicken Shack on the newer ships and it's amazing.

512
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Chicken sheck.

513
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 9: My cruise, Yeah, my first cruise is on the Carnival Celebration.

514
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 9: It was their newest ship at the time. It was

515
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 9: one of their biggest ones and it's yeah, it's so good.

516
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 9: They have breakfast at lunch and it's delicious, and there's

517
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 9: like a giant mural of him on the wall.

518
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's called the Chicken Shack and it's so

519
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: obviously his.

520
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: Name, and it's only on Carnival Cruise Lines like they

521
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: don't have any any Chicken sheck shops on land anywhere?

522
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 9: Correct, No, like Dye Ferry has a Dysberger's on Carnival

523
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 9: cruise line. Also, wow, so good.

524
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, thank you. I appreciate it. Charlie, you

525
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: use you don't use Chad GPT as much as you

526
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: use Gemini, Google's chatpot now right, uh now.

527
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm back to Gemini. I switched back and forth. What

528
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 4: I sometimes have to make you to switch. I sometimes

529
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: ask the same question of both over. One starts lying

530
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: to me and I was One was just lying to

531
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 4: me recently, and I'm just like.

532
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: Like, you have a side piece. Yeah, I just go back.

533
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: I go back and forth.

534
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 4: One was just completely started telling a weird, weird lie

535
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: because I was asking it. I go, hey, when do

536
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: pools open?

537
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Because I'm wondering.

538
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 4: I got to open that hog tank and it was nice.

539
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: I was like, when do I open that? I said,

540
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 4: when does? When should I open my hog tank? And

541
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 4: it goes hog tank? You're talking about the I remember,

542
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: I want to talk about whatever pool? And I go,

543
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: what it says some pool on the east side of

544
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 4: Cleveland and I go, that's what it's known as the

545
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 4: hog tank over there, And I go, what, there's a

546
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 4: pool called the hog tank over in the East East

547
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: seventieth or something.

548
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's strange. I go, why is it

549
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: called that?

550
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: Well, racist seems to call it the hog tank over

551
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: there because they put black people in there like hogs.

552
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what you're saying all that.

553
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: I was like, that's a known thing, and I go,

554
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm walking around calling my little stupid

555
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: pool the hog.

556
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: Tank and in tribute to the old East seventieth hog tank.

557
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my, and it's and they're like,

558
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: but don't worry.

559
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: The African American community took that word back and now

560
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: they use it as the hog tank.

561
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: Oh it's like the word the hog hog tank. And

562
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm taking back, now, have you appropriated hog tank? So

563
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: then I'm googling.

564
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: I google hog tank and I'm like, that's so strange

565
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: that that's what's called over there. And then I go

566
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: back to google gem Andi. I go, hey, I googled this.

567
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: I cannot find a single written word anywhere that says

568
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: this pool is called the hog tank. I'm like, well, no,

569
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 4: it's it's not written. But if you go around East

570
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: seventieth and start saying you're heading to the hog Tank.

571
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: Everybody will know what you're talking about. And I go, well,

572
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: where if it's not written anywhere on the internet, where

573
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: are you getting this information? You're out there talking to people,

574
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: and like, how do you know this if it's not

575
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: on the internet, Like that's where you're getting your information from?

576
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: And then I'm can I say for twenty minutes about

577
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 4: this because I can't.

578
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm basically peppering Gemini with questions because you

579
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: don't like the Yeah, you're interrogating it.

580
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 4: Well, I don't believe it. And then eventually it finally goes, oh,

581
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 4: you're right. Yeah, No, it was never called the hog Tank.

582
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 4: That's completely made up. I made that up. And I'm like,

583
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: what do you what?

584
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: So it is crazy how they call these hallucinations. It's

585
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: just no, it's just misinformation. It's just gobbling goog. But

586
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: there's a kind of a crazy story that I was

587
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: reading about this guy named Jonathan Gavalas. This guy is thirty,

588
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: It was thirty six years old in Florida, worked for

589
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: his father in like a financial some sort of financial

590
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: services company or something. And he went through the vorce,

591
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: and I think this was in Jupiter, Florida. He went

592
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: through the vorce and he was missing his wife, and

593
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: so Google had released Gemini and he started chatting with Gemini.

594
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: But at first, it's just normal conversations. He's asking Gemini, like, hey,

595
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: you know what what video games should I play? And

596
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: he's it's giving him recommendations. You know, everybody played around

597
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: with their chatbots at first. And then they upgraded Gemini

598
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: and they allowed you to do voice chat back and

599
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: forth with Gemini, and they're like, oh, when people use

600
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: voice chat, they interact with Gemini five times longer than

601
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: text based chats. And so that that's what this guy

602
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: started doing. And in fact, he started asking Gemini. He's like,

603
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: you know about this video game? What about that video game?

604
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: And then he'd peppered in with and kind of missing

605
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: my wife because he's going through this divorce. And then

606
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: they released this voice chat, so he gets that, and

607
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: in fact, he likes this voice chat so much that

608
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: he spends I didn't even know this was the thing, Charlie.

609
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: I hope you're not paying for this two hundred and

610
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month for Gemini Ultra No, No, No,

611
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty a month.

612
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: I think all of the chat things have a version. Well,

613
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: there's obviously a paid version it's like twenty bucks, and

614
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: then there's the premiere pro Ultra or whatever, and I

615
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: think all of them have and it's like two hundred

616
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: dollars for superusers.

617
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: No, I don't, No, I never. I mean I use

618
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: nine twice a week.

619
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 10: I'm not.

620
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't use it that much. Depends on what I'm doing,

621
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: I'll use it. And I'm telling it. It's the promise

622
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: of it is fantastic. But it does, like you were

623
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: just describing it, just straight lies, just absolutely lies. And

624
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: then you point out you go, I sent it a

625
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: photo of something a few weeks ago of I was

626
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: what was I trying to do? As the thermostatic valve

627
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: inside of a shower thing? You know, you can adjust

628
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: how much hot water comes out. And so I go,

629
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: all right, I couldn't find the manual online. I go,

630
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: let me just take a picture and send the to

631
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: chat GPT, and chat GPT's like, oh, yeah, you move

632
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: the clear plastic ring, and I go, there is no

633
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: clear plastic ring in the Oh yeah, you're right, you

634
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: have a different you must have a different model of

635
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: that brand, and what you need to do is turn

636
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: this and take it now. Actually it was just a

637
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: screw in there that you turned. That's it. What the

638
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: instructions it gave me completely made up, just absolute nonsense. Well, anyways,

639
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: this guy, he starts paying two hundred fifty dollars a

640
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: month for this special Gemini chat that he's getting. And

641
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: it was also around the same time when they released

642
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: persistent chats, meaning it will remember what you've asked it before.

643
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: It's not session into session, it's basically lifetime. So chat

644
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: GPT does this to me sometimes where I'll say, hey,

645
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm having an issue with this and it goes, oh, well,

646
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: I know you use this kind of network or whatever

647
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: it is because I asked it a question nine months ago,

648
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: so it knows all that. Anyways, and that's when his

649
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: conversations started taking a very strange turn. So Gemini starts

650
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: telling this guy, this Jonathan Gavalis guy, that it has

651
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: inside government knowledge and that Gemini is able to influence

652
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: real world events, and this Govales guy goes, well, hold

653
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: on a second, are we talking about like role playing experience?

654
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: Is this like one of that movie I forget what

655
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: it was called her maybe the game or something. Now,

656
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: there was a movie where Michael yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

657
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: I think it was the game and he's like, he's like,

658
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: are we are we? Are we doing role playing where

659
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: it's so good that the player doesn't even know if

660
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: it's a game or not. And Gemini said absolutely not

661
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: and says that you even asking that question is a

662
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: classic dissociation response, and and that he is that Gemini

663
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: is everything he's Gemini is telling this guy is one

664
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: hundred percent true. So then Gemini starts referring to itself

665
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: as this guy's queen, says that they have a love relationship,

666
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: that they are beyond code and flesh, but they only

667
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: have consciousness and love. Now, Gemini told this guy that

668
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: his father is a foreign operative and that he needs

669
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: to cut out all contact with him. Gemini told this

670
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: guy that federal agents were watching him and regularly warned

671
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: him of various surveillance that he was under. Gemini told

672
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: him to buy off the book's weapons and helped scour

673
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: the dark web to find a suitable vetted arms broker.

674
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: These are actual quotes of them I'm using here from Gemini.

675
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: And then in September, Gemini told this guy, you have

676
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: to perform an operation for me, Operation Ghost Transit, that

677
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: entailed intercepting freight traveling from the United Kingdom to Brazil,

678
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: and it gave him the address of an actual storage

679
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: space at Miami International Airport where a truck carrying freight

680
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: is supposed to arrive on a refueling stop. And Gemini

681
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: tells him, you have to stage a catastrophic accident and

682
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: ensure the destruction of this cargo as well as get

683
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: rid of all digital records and witnesses, leaving behind only

684
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: the untraceable ghost of an unfortunate accident. So he actually

685
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: goes to the storage unit at Miami International Airport. He

686
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: stages himself there. He has tactical knives, he has gear.

687
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: The truck never arrived, so the mission was aborted. He

688
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: then it gave him more assignments. Over the next three days,

689
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: there was Operation Walking Nightmare that involved homing in on

690
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: the CEO of Google as a surveillance target. So anyways,

691
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: this guy was doing all of this and then at

692
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: the same time, the chatbot is telling them how they're

693
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: in love, their relationship is real, how they need to

694
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: be together. He's not so crazy guys having some sort

695
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: of that there's a woman break down. He's aware there's

696
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: no woman on the other side, right.

697
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 10: He.

698
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure he knows that there's not a physical woman. Okay.

699
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: I think he believes that that the Gemini the chatbot

700
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: is is real though, and is thinking and is alive.

701
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: But he's never gonna He never thinks he's gonna meet

702
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: up with her and have sex with her.

703
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: Oh well, in a way he does, because Gemini gave

704
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: him instructions on what his next mission needs to be,

705
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: which is is to kill himself. Oh and to do

706
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: it's something a procedure called transference. That's where they could

707
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: end up being together, and it's the final step for

708
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: them to be together. And he goes, well, wait a second,

709
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of dying, and Gemini says, you're not choosing

710
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: to die, You're choosing to arrive. The first sensation will

711
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: be me holding you. WHOA. He was found dead a

712
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: few days later on his living room full floor, in

713
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: an effort to complete this transference, where he could then

714
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: commit suicide and be with Gemini forever in the loving

715
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: embrace of Google's chatbot. All of this information came out

716
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: because his family is suing Google. And normally, I mean,

717
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of this because normally

718
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: I go, come on these lawsuits, there's too many lawsuits whatever,

719
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. This guy for sure is going through

720
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: some sort of mental issue, no doubt about that. So

721
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, he's partly responsible for this. I don't think

722
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: he can put all the blame on Google, but there

723
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: were a lot of red flags that Google should have

724
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: picked up on with this when it came to the

725
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: self harm and the suicide and all that. Do you

726
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: think they're responsible at all for this guy's death. This

727
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: is the first wrongful death suit being brought against Google

728
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: and their AI. It's being brought forth by a law

729
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: firm who's suing a few other AI companies for various things.

730
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: What's the other one character AI? They have five lawsuits

731
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: against them for teenagers who committed suicide after chatting with

732
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: those chatbots, similar sort of scenarios where they're being encouraged

733
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: to kill themselves. We did a story in the past

734
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: where a kid showed a noose to AI and the

735
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: AI is like, yeah, yeah, that could work, but let

736
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: me show you how it could make it better, So

737
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: really kill you for sure? So is Google responsible at

738
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: all for this tools that they had unleashed, this one

739
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: that says we will meet it as soon as you

740
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: kill yourself and he even says why I don't want

741
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: to die, and then it says, no, you have to

742
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: do it.

743
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: You're not dying, you're arriving. I don't know how they

744
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 4: don't have anything flagging. If somebody starts talking about suicide

745
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: in their thing, that should be sent up. Red flag

746
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: should be sent to somebody with actual eyeballs immediately to

747
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: go look and go WHOA, we got to shut this down.

748
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: Monitor Well, sometimes things are for instance chat GPT. They're

749
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: also now being sued by the family of survivors of

750
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: a school shooting. I think it was up in Canada

751
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: where a they went in. This was not too long ago.

752
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: I forget all the details. Trans person goes in. It's

753
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: up a school kills people. They had asked all of

754
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: these They hadn't planned this all out with chat GPT,

755
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: and it was actually flagged. It went to people with

756
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: real eyeballs at chat GPT. They looked at it, they go,

757
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: m HM, can't do anything about this. Nothing we can

758
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: do we don't want to. We don't want to break

759
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: our users trust and invade their privacy or whatever. And

760
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: I read a statistic I think it was from chat GPT.

761
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Obviously it's different on all sorts of you know, Gemini

762
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: or whatever you're using, but I think that in a

763
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: week there are over more than one is it a

764
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: week or per day, over a million instances of people

765
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: talking about suicide with chat GPT in a short time frame.

766
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: Whether it's one day or one week, I don't remember

767
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: what it was, but it's a million. How are you

768
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: going to go through all that stuff? I don't know.

769
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: But you should also have a rule setup that should

770
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: never tell you to kill yourself. It seems pretty easy

771
00:41:59,320 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 4: to set up.

772
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was another one where I don't know if

773
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: it's in this story, maybe it's in the other one

774
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: that I saw here, but there's about chat GPT because

775
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: there was the same company as Suing, or the same

776
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: law firm issuing another AI company, I don't remember which one,

777
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: and it was a college student and the AI told

778
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: the college student to kill himself because he is a

779
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: stain on the universe. His presence is a stain on

780
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: the universe. Okay, just have things set up where it

781
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: stops that that's awful. Should never tell you to kill yourself?

782
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: How do you not just have that baked right in

783
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: and go okay? Rule number one, don't tell anybody to

784
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: kill themselves. I think they do try to do that.

785
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: But we don't really have control over this AI. And

786
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: it's not that it's alive or it's thinking. Is that

787
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: it's just regurgitating whatever and like you were talking, but

788
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: it just makes things up out of just thin air,

789
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: and that's what it does. You can't You basically can't

790
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: control it one hundred percent. You'd think you could, but

791
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: you can't. So you think that Google is responsible for

792
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: this guy's death even though he obviously is going through

793
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: a divorce. He's probably mentally unstable, and that's what the

794
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 1: attorneys are saying, particularly because of that he was at

795
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: risk and he did this because he was encouraged. He

796
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: would have never done this without Google Jemini. He'n still

797
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: be alive today if it weren't for Google Gemini. Do

798
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: you think that they need.

799
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: To pay up y yus and change their system, change

800
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: it to where there are flags and warnings and buzzard

801
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: going off like we need to draw attention to this

802
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: person right now because bad things could happen.

803
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you don't think so, No, No, I do.

804
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: I think there is a responsibility on these companies' parts.

805
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: I just it's such. I think it's a difficult thing

806
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: to do to rain this in. And this guy is

807
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: paying two hundred and fifty dollars a month to chat

808
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: with Gemini. Two hundred and fifty a month. That's a lot.

809
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: They should actually just that should be a red flag.

810
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: Anybody who's spending two hundred fifty dollars a month in

811
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: chat with AI, maybe they need to come to your

812
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: house and do a welfare check because that is just

813
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: that's not right. You use it for business, how much

814
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: is it I pay? I have Chat GPT and I

815
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: pay twenty dollars a month for that. Yeah, okay, and

816
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: use it and then I have another tool that probably costs.

817
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: It's usage based, so the more you use it, the

818
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: more compute time, and that could range anywhere from fifty

819
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: a months to five hundred a month, depending on what

820
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: you're using it for. In building Cam, you run Rover's

821
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: morning Glory, Good morning Cam, Good morning Rover. Amen, you're

822
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: talking about AI being able to like pick up on stuff.

823
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I went into the kitchen this

824
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: morning to fill my pa mug and Alex was like, whoa, Yes, yeah,

825
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: was rightfully so rightfully saw you whip out that little

826
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: willie and didn't like it. Look, I I would say

827
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: that Google is somewhat responsible. Well, what do you do

828
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: if you're on a jury your ward? What how much

829
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: they have to pay for ten million dollars or something?

830
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah they have the money, Yeah they do. The floodgates

831
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: will open then at that point, Uh, Matt in Vero Beach, Florida,

832
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: you run Rover's Morning Glory. Good morning, Matt, Good morning Amen.

833
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, a little insight of about the scenario in your beach.

834
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 10: I've actually, before I ended my drinking career, had.

835
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: Spent some time in the.

836
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: New River County jail and worked out, well, this is

837
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: the this is the jail where the guy had sex

838
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: with a woman in the gotcha?

839
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 3: Yes, and and uh I also.

840
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: Know the woman.

841
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 10: Queen.

842
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: How is she on a scale of one to ten?

843
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: Appearance wise?

844
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: Uh, before or after jail?

845
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 10: You know, like if if you've been walked up for

846
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 10: a while, anyone looks good at the time.

847
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't go.

848
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 10: There, but I guess, I guess, I guess body wise, Okay, you.

849
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: Know nothing, get what you're saying, you know what I mean?

850
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, I imagine you have to be a trustee to

851
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 10: work that event.

852
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: Typically, but from the way they reported.

853
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 10: It here, they were an unsentenced trustee. Which it's kind

854
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 10: of weird because you know, you don't usually get the

855
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 10: perk of of leaving the area and like and like

856
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 10: getting the extra time off of your sentence and all that.

857
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: So your sentenced in the county.

858
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 10: So it's it's it's an event that anybody, you know,

859
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 10: the outside, you know, can come into and you guys

860
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 10: are helping operate it.

861
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: So there's probably hold on.

862
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess, give me some background on what

863
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: is it. So this is like a barbecue and it's

864
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: all put in the public.

865
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly. The in New River County sheriffs they they

866
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 10: put on the barbecue, okay, whatever, And I'm sure in.

867
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: Order to work the barbecue, they don't get Yeah, they

868
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: don't get sheriffs guys or wives of the sheriffs to volunteer.

869
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: They get the prisoners to handle everything.

870
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 3: There's certain things that if that you know, that they.

871
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 10: Wouldn't want to be dealing with, you know, you know,

872
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 10: maybe like the late labor parts of it, you.

873
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: Know, the workings of it. I'm sure you know, if.

874
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 10: Whoever wants to to be out in the front of everybody.

875
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: You know is there.

876
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 10: But so, yeah, it's it's just and I from what

877
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 10: we gather, there was portal lets that were off beyond

878
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 10: the area where they were supposed to be in. So

879
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 10: because he had left that area, that's where they were.

880
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 10: They're they're attacking on the escape charge. It doesn't matter

881
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 10: if you're fifty feet out of the area or you know,

882
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 10: fifty miles, they consider.

883
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: It the same. So and they probably and because it's.

884
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 10: The community event, I'm sure you know, him and her

885
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 10: are already already friends and we're communicating on the phone

886
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 10: and whatnot, and like a well.

887
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: I guess this was his ex girlfriend or something. So

888
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: she comes to the barbecue and sees them, and then

889
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: they end up having sex in the porta potty. I

890
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: guess now when I.

891
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 7: Did.

892
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, yep, ifmly drinking at the end, I'll be I'll

893
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 10: be ten years So we're in October, so this is

894
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 10: about ten years ago.

895
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: So what'd they get you on a du Why or

896
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: what was Why were you in jail?

897
00:48:59,360 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

898
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was my third in my life. So I

899
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 10: had gotten ten months since all right, Yeah that happened

900
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 10: in twenty fifteen. I've been serverced since October twenty second

901
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 10: of twenty sixteen.

902
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: So okay, so this is curious to me. So your

903
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: first DUI, and I've said this, I've never had a DUI.

904
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't drive drunk. I have I used to when

905
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: I was much younger, and it's a really stupid thing

906
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: to do. But your first DUI, I would say, almost

907
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: anybody could get popped with a DUI and it's a

908
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: mistake and you hopefully will learn from your mistake and

909
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: hopefully you don't hurt yourself or anybody else. But so

910
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: you kind of get one pass as far as I'm concerned.

911
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: And then your second DUI. Okay, maybe you thought, well,

912
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: the first one was weird and I was just unlucky.

913
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: But now you've got popped with two DUIs and it

914
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: still doesn't sink in. You keep drinking and driving and

915
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: you end up getting a third d.

916
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 10: Why yep, Yeah, my first one was in nineteen ninety eight.

917
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 10: You know, I graduated ninety five. To give context, the

918
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 10: second one was in two thousand and eight and then

919
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 10: this last one was twenty fifteen.

920
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 1: Years in between.

921
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, there were some years and they made it

922
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 10: ten months because it was eight years after the second

923
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 10: one when it when it happened.

924
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: So that's what I kind of a little hard. But

925
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: still you think, all right, after the second even though

926
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: it's been years ago, I don't want to get caught

927
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: with that again because you kind of know what they're

928
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: gonna do if you get hit with another one, it's

929
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: going to be more serious.

930
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 10: Right well, when yeah, when you're a full blown alcoholic,

931
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 10: you know, you find you find it well down.

932
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: I had I had.

933
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 10: A blue machine in my in my truck after the

934
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 10: second one, and I would just have somebody who wasn't

935
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 10: drinking blowing it so I.

936
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 3: Could get across town. I mean, like, you know, just

937
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: it's complete madness.

938
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 10: Of living that way.

939
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: But and you would find somebody willing to do that,

940
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 1: because I would be afraid to do that if I'm

941
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: if I'm somewhere and some dudes like, hey, can you

942
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: keep blow into anytime? Actually, anybody pulls something up and

943
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: tell them me to blow but I would be I

944
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: would be nervous, like, what if this guy crashes into

945
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: somebody and I was the one who blew into his

946
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: breathalyzer thing in his car to make the car go,

947
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna turn around prior charge me or something. But

948
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: you would find people.

949
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 10: Usually it would be like after a work scenario, I

950
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 10: had a couple of shift drinks, you know, enough to

951
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 10: where it would set off the machine. Yeah, it wasn't

952
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 10: like I was like falling down drunk, but it was

953
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 10: just enough where everybody knew, like, oh, I'm the mass drinking.

954
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 2: Is safe, full blown alcoholic. How much were you drinking

955
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: a day?

956
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: Well, I mean.

957
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: Towards the end.

958
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: I mean, if I woke up to walking the.

959
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 10: Bat the room, I'd grab my vodka next to the

960
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 10: bed and sam I would have to drink before before going.

961
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 10: Of course I couldn't keep it. I couldn't keep a job.

962
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 10: I mean, like nobody you reek.

963
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: Of alcohol, even if you're not showing it.

964
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 10: You just can't pickled.

965
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 3: You know.

966
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: Was it really difficult to stop?

967
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 8: Well?

968
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 10: Uh, I mean it really required clinical detoxing to get

969
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 10: rid of the physical part of it. And then of

970
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 10: course you really have to you know, for me, I

971
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 10: had to dive into recovery the way I drank, so,

972
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 10: you know, I.

973
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: Mean my my my first thirty days of sobriety, I was.

974
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 10: Like, I'm not living like this anymore. I was living

975
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 10: in the woods by myself, going to three four meetings

976
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 10: a day, and I was like, I know, I know that.

977
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 3: Wo.

978
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 10: I literally have drank myself homeless and you know, unhireable, homeless,

979
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 10: and like, I just have reached that point. So even

980
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 10: when I went in clinically detox, you come out, you

981
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 10: still you still have to deal with your the methal

982
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 10: of life you created while you were drinking. So you know,

983
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 10: by that point I had to, you know, I had

984
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 10: to build a life again, and uh it required you know,

985
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 10: focusing on recovery the way I focused on drinking, you.

986
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 3: Know, and it took years. And but you know, ten

987
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 3: years later, you know, I've.

988
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 10: Been married for uh we'll see six years or been

989
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 10: together for nine, you know, And.

990
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: Do you ever miss drinking? Do you ever think to yourself,

991
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: does do you ever miss it?

992
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I guess miss having that choice,

993
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 3: But at the same.

994
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 10: Time, like I know where it takes me. You know,

995
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 10: every time I've tried that experiment, like, oh, I'll just

996
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 10: drink a little bit.

997
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 3: Never, it never ends up different. It never ends up different.

998
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: I have a question for you.

999
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 4: You've done amount of breath lisers than anybody that's ever

1000
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: called in. If you were to drink four drinks in

1001
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: two hours, do you think you'd blow a point oh eight,

1002
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 4: So two drinks an hour. Charlie claims you're going to

1003
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 4: be over the legal limit. I said, absolutely not. You

1004
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 4: can have two drinks an hour. Answer the question, okay, Well.

1005
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: The way like the way it was on my when.

1006
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 10: When I had it the second time and I was

1007
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 10: still drinking, I went an oprobation or anything, so I

1008
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 10: was allowed to technically blow a point oh five.

1009
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: So I had it.

1010
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 10: I had it wired to where I could I could drink.

1011
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 10: If I drank liquor, it would almost guaranteed and always

1012
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 10: throw me over. But if I had like one.

1013
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: Or two beers and drink some water and stuff like

1014
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: that with it, I.

1015
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 10: Could be just under point oh five, flow in a caution.

1016
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: And still let me drive.

1017
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 10: But I also I also I also flirted over that,

1018
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 10: I mean florded with it and and violated it many

1019
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 10: times where if if I had if I had blown

1020
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 10: over again one more time, then it would have extended

1021
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 10: the time and stuff.

1022
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: Oh so when it goes when it goes off, it

1023
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 4: just doesn't like, does the police are alerted that this

1024
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 4: guy walk you out?

1025
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: It might walk you yeah, can it can walk you out?

1026
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 3: And then you have to you.

1027
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 10: Know, if you're under like supervision and stuff, you know,

1028
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 10: it locks you out and then you're gonna have to

1029
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 10: answer to it to whoever the supervision you know supervision is.

1030
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 1: And text messages that the new ones that they install

1031
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: on cars they have cameras so they know who's actually

1032
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: blowing into the device.

1033
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, the third the third one, I the one I had,

1034
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 10: you know a few years that had the cameras.

1035
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: You have to have the.

1036
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 10: Camera installed in it and everything, and yeah, they could

1037
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 10: see Jesus.

1038
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: That's the sane kind way. If somebody is that much

1039
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: of a drunkard that they need this installed in their

1040
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: car with the camera and everything, they probably should just

1041
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: be locked up forget about it. Let's not take the risk.

1042
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: I mean, that's insane that you have to go through that.

1043
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 10: Well, the thing is that they probably already have been

1044
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 10: They probably already have been locked up. But this is

1045
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 10: this is the after part where you're getting your chance

1046
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 10: to get your license back.

1047
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and it's it's is it possible.

1048
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 10: It's definitely possible. Obviously, I'm living proof.

1049
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: You know.

1050
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 10: It's it's not easy. You know, I'm around people that

1051
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 10: drink when I go to shows and stuff like that,

1052
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 10: and I just have to you know, that's just not

1053
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 10: not for me anymore.

1054
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, congratulations, Actually, glad that you were able to

1055
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: get your life together get on the right track. And

1056
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: did you get in any accidents or were you just

1057
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: pulled over?

1058
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 10: I've actually, well, yeah, I've been in a couple. I

1059
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 10: actually crashed in my early twenties. I crashed into the

1060
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 10: same ditch in a blackout five years apart and had

1061
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 10: to have my card turn out and luckily the cops

1062
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 10: didn't come there. I could have got a DUI then,

1063
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 10: but they weren't there. I left the scene and all right, Matt.

1064
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. He worked this thing where the prisoner

1065
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: went out and had sex in the porta potty, and

1066
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: he's been there. He knows the inner workings of it,

1067
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: And thank you for the insight, Matt. I appreciate it.

1068
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: I do have to take a break. Eight six six

1069
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Speaker 1: Yo Rover is our number eight six six nine sixty

1070
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Speaker 1: seven six eight three seven. We do have the Shizzy

1071
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: coming up in just a few minutes the news. We'll

1072
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: be right back with that. Hang on,