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Speaker 3: Mentioned we're out early today six point fifteen. We'll take

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think we ever played the the NFC.

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Speaker 4: So and I'd still say no. I I looked at

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Speaker 4: of that is making quicker decisions, but I think some

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Speaker 4: of it is he's figured out better how to use

437
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Speaker 4: his legs effectively, and if he the last element is

438
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Speaker 4: obviously the one people talk about. If he can make

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Speaker 4: a greater percentage of what might be viewed as the

440
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Speaker 4: more routine pass completion, then he will be the best

441
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Speaker 4: quarterback in football at that point. That's the one thing

442
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Speaker 4: I think that he still has to get better at.

443
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Speaker 4: I think he threw is it five interceptions the last

444
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Speaker 4: two games. I think he did that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Now.

446
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Speaker 4: You know, if you win, people tend to forget that stuff.

447
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Speaker 4: If you lose it, it ends up being a bit

448
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Speaker 4: of an issue. But in the end, they did lose

449
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Speaker 4: the game, and you could say, in the end it

450
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Speaker 4: was the turnover different takeaway differential that had a lot

451
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Speaker 4: to do with that, and he was responsible for some

452
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Speaker 4: of that too. Bottom of the hour pause, let's talk

453
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Speaker 4: college football championship. There's no more rubelike Indiana University football

454
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Speaker 4: fan than our next guest, my former college roommate, Rick Bosch,

455
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Speaker 4: will catch up with him. See how he is preparing

456
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Speaker 4: himself for tonight's game.

457
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Speaker 2: How nervous is he? What will he be wearing tonight?

458
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Speaker 4: I've got my Hoosier Indiana football a hoodie on we'll

459
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Speaker 4: find out what he's gonna wear, and we'll find out

460
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Speaker 4: how confident he might be tonight. Who knows, we might

461
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Speaker 4: even talk a little bit of baseball too as well.

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Speaker 4: Mister Rick Bosey's his next Cloud fans, this is your season.

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Speaker 3: You can experience the energy, the goals, the unforgettable moments

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Speaker 3: at Gran Casino Arena. Here take us now, Wild dot

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Speaker 3: com slash tickets year on the Wild this season, Wild

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Speaker 3: dot Com slash tickets.

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing our next guest is very nervous right now

468
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Speaker 4: since he retired from the Printed Word, and I think

469
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Speaker 4: really the broadcasts were as well, not really that many

470
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Speaker 4: months ago. He has become fully and completely invested in

471
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Speaker 4: being a fan of the Indiana University football program. He

472
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Speaker 4: has been rewarded by a season that even after last year,

473
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Speaker 4: could not possibly, I think have been predicted, and an

474
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Speaker 4: opportunity tonight to celebrate a national college football championship. Rick

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Speaker 4: bose It's frequent guest on this show over the years,

476
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Speaker 4: my college roommate, going all the way back to the

477
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Speaker 4: time when we lived in I think they were called

478
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Speaker 4: stadium village apartments. He'll know he's got a better memory

479
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Speaker 4: than me. Literally right next door to a memorial stadium.

480
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Speaker 4: And Ricky I mentioned earlier in the show, I think

481
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Speaker 4: when we were living there, right next to the Memorial Stadium,

482
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Speaker 4: we thought of that stadium more as a big edifice

483
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Speaker 4: around which you could jog very efficiently, as opposed to

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Speaker 4: a place where football was played.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: I don't even think we thought of the football stadium

487
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Speaker 4: for the football.

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Speaker 5: Did we here? Exactly? Dunhill apartment, Dunhill, that's right, that's right.

489
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Speaker 5: And you jogged, I didn't show I rode my body. Okay, Yeah,

490
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Speaker 5: you were into jogging that summer, that's true. And you'd

491
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Speaker 5: go over to the stadium and run around the stadium

492
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Speaker 5: all the time. And it we had both been around

493
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Speaker 5: a little bit and gone to some games, and it

494
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Speaker 5: was like the least inspired football stadium in the Big

495
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Speaker 5: Ten because it was open on both ends and it

496
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Speaker 5: Coach Corso was early in his career there, and you know,

497
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Speaker 5: the thought of Indiana having a five hundred season was outrageous.

498
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Speaker 5: I was in Indianapolis last week, talked with Jimmy Cruz

499
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Speaker 5: who was on the seventy six Indiana championship team, and

500
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Speaker 5: Steve Downing was there a couple of other guys, and

501
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Speaker 5: I looked it up that the four years I was

502
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Speaker 5: at Indiana, they won a total of eleven football games.

503
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Speaker 5: This team's going for its sixteenth to win tonight. Eleven

504
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Speaker 5: games in four years. And I know, I you grads

505
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Speaker 5: from pretty much every era and other than the Mallory

506
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Speaker 5: years when we were you know, maybe winning eight or

507
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Speaker 5: nine games. Every Indiana grant can say that.

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Speaker 4: Well, what's you know, what's interesting about this is, Okay,

509
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Speaker 4: you're speaking in the Minnesota market, and you know football

510
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 4: post what the the nineteenth early nineteen sixties has been

511
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Speaker 4: pretty bad most of the time, with a couple of exceptions,

512
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Speaker 4: but it has been nowhere near as putrid and inept

513
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Speaker 4: as Indiana football has tended to be. People here don't

514
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Speaker 4: believe it, but that's because they don't pay as much

515
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Speaker 4: attention to it. But that's what we're That's why I

516
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Speaker 4: think for a lot of people there's still a dreamlike

517
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Speaker 4: quality to this whole thing that it doesn't it's hard

518
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Speaker 4: to make it feel real even as you watch these games.

519
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Speaker 4: Is even as you watch them, more people over because

520
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Speaker 4: it really felt very much like the fantasy that it's

521
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Speaker 4: just not gonna happen. It's just one of those places

522
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Speaker 4: where it's just never gonna happen, right, There's nothing's gonna

523
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Speaker 4: happen there.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have a football.

525
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Speaker 4: They gotta have football, and there's gonna be a football

526
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Speaker 4: stadium and there'll be a few people in the stands

527
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Speaker 4: on a nice day, but just sort of have to

528
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Speaker 4: accept that that they are what they are, right, That's

529
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Speaker 4: that was the mentality for forever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think you're a couple of reasons

531
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Speaker 5: for that and agree one hundred percent. There was never

532
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Speaker 5: any internal or external pressure to change during pretty much

533
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Speaker 5: accepted and you know, and when Night was in his heyday,

534
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Speaker 5: as long as he was rolling, I don't think anybody cared.

535
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Speaker 5: It'd be like once October fifteenth came and basketball practice started,

536
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Speaker 5: and back then they'd play preseason exhibitions like at some

537
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Speaker 5: high school gym and Seymour and get nine thousand people

538
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Speaker 5: for an IU basketball intersquad game, and people would already

539
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 5: turned the page and worried about football. And it's been

540
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Speaker 5: that way pretty much forever.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Two years ago, before the year before Signetty took over,

543
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Speaker 5: Tom Allen was to coach. I think it was the

544
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Speaker 5: second game of the year. They needed four overtimes to

545
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Speaker 5: beat Acron I mean, I mean that's two years ago.

546
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Speaker 5: I mean that's and that wasn't People were like, nobody

547
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Speaker 5: was surprised by your life and death to beat Western

548
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Speaker 5: Kentucky and like that. And in fact, they had a

549
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Speaker 5: three game series scheduled with Louisville. They played the first

550
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Speaker 5: game that year in Indianapolis and Louisville had more fans there,

551
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Speaker 5: and then they got out of the rest of the

552
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Speaker 5: series because they needed to schedule a game against somebody

553
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Speaker 5: that they were more likely to be.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Well, what I you mentioned Alan, this to me speaks

556
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Speaker 4: to the cruelty of this what would seemed to be

557
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: the cruelty of the situation that right because he had

558
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Speaker 4: this breakthrough season where by Indiana standards, they were on

559
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Speaker 4: the map right where people go, my god, that maybe

560
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Speaker 4: they figured something out here, and then what ultimately happened,

561
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Speaker 4: they came right back to being what they were with him,

562
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Speaker 4: And for me, what it cemented was the notion.

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Speaker 2: That they just are what they are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you might have this cute little eruption

565
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Speaker 4: for one season, but none of it's sustainable for whatever reason,

566
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Speaker 4: in Indiana, and that's further proof of it that for

567
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Speaker 4: a brief period he was one of the meteoric rise

568
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Speaker 4: stories in the country. Right, and then guess what they

569
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Speaker 4: went back to being what Indiana is supposed to be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they had a good year, and then

571
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Speaker 5: they had the COVID year when they played a reduced

572
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Speaker 5: schedule and they beat everybody except for Ohio State, and

573
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Speaker 5: then they lost the bowl game to All Miss and

574
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Speaker 5: then you know, a couple of his assistant coaches left

575
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 5: and other people took his strength and conditioning guy, and

576
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Speaker 5: it just fell apart quickly. I mean the next year,

577
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 5: they started the season ranked. I'm pretty sure they played

578
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Speaker 5: the first game at Iowa and Penix through an interception

579
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Speaker 5: like the first series, and that was it. The season

580
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 5: was over already. And then Penix left and finished his

581
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Speaker 5: career at Washington in the National championship game. It was

582
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Speaker 5: it was never sustainable. And I mean, people, of course,

583
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Speaker 5: I was a coach for ten years. What did he

584
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Speaker 5: have two winning seasons? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I the most.

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Speaker 4: You'll appreciate this story, and I'm hoping the audience will

587
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: too as another example of Indiana football futility. When I

588
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Speaker 4: was at the Indiana Daily Student. I don't know if

589
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Speaker 4: this particular year you were also there, and I think

590
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Speaker 4: this was the semester. I was the sports editor and

591
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Speaker 4: the guy the reporter covering the team most of the

592
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Speaker 4: time was a guy, really nice guy southern Indiana guys

593
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Speaker 4: I re called named Jerry Moore, and I would edit

594
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Speaker 4: like after one particularly undistinguished loss.

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Speaker 2: This was under I think this would have been course.

596
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Speaker 2: It had to be corese.

597
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought the game story was way too

598
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: easy on the team, and I'm the coach, and so

599
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 4: I edited something that I look back on and say, well,

600
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Speaker 4: I really shouldn't have done that, But I was so

601
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Speaker 4: annoyed by how soft the story was that I edited

602
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Speaker 4: in an ending some of the effect of something needs

603
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Speaker 4: to change, and change very quickly. Well, I get, of course,

604
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Speaker 4: a call from Jerry Moore saying what are you doing,

605
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Speaker 4: adding that I and I tried to defend it. It

606
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Speaker 4: was a poor case of editing. It's I shouldn't have

607
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Speaker 4: done it, but it kind of spoke to the desperation

608
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Speaker 4: of the situation where you just, you know, you wanted

609
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Speaker 4: somebody to cry out and say, my God, and we

610
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Speaker 4: always going to just accept this mediocrity or accept losing

611
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Speaker 4: as often as we do. It speaks to all that,

612
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Speaker 4: and all that seems like it's from a foreign country

613
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Speaker 4: or from a distant land on the basis of what

614
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Speaker 4: we're seeing now. So you know the ad, Well tell me,

615
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Speaker 4: And I don't know how many conversations you've had with

616
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Speaker 4: him about finding and zeroing in and drilling down on signetti.

617
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Speaker 4: But where does he how much credit does he get?

618
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Speaker 4: What do you think did you think he had any

619
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Speaker 4: idea what he had figured out here? Or how if

620
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Speaker 4: you go back to the beginning, what strikes you about

621
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Speaker 4: this whole marriage.

622
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Speaker 5: Well, I'll it a little bit. I think the whole

623
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Speaker 5: mindset changed briefly, I don't know twenty ten or twenty eleven,

624
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Speaker 5: when fred Glass hired Kevin Wilson. It was like they

625
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 5: brought in from Oklahoma over as the offensive coordinator and

626
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 5: they got a little bit more serious about football. And

627
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 5: then he had some decent teams, but he was just

628
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 5: an offensive coach and the defense stunk. And then Alan

629
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Speaker 5: took over and fred Glass was gone and Dolson, Scott Dolson,

630
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Speaker 5: who were talking about as the athletic director. He's a

631
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 5: former basketball student manager under Bob Nye considered a basketball guy.

632
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Speaker 5: And I think there was a new university president, Pam Whitten,

633
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Speaker 5: and she was on today actually with Pat McAfee talking

634
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Speaker 5: about it, and I think they really had a moment

635
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 5: where they sat down and talked about look at college

636
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Speaker 5: football right now, and that's what runs everything. It runs

637
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 5: conference re alignment, it runs revenue, it runs where you're

638
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: going to be at in the new world of college athletics.

639
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Speaker 5: And continued down the road that Indiana was on to

640
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 5: risk being irrelevant and get left behind, and so they

641
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 5: had to make a change and they I didn't think

642
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: they would pay the fifteen million or whatever it was

643
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 5: to buy out Tom Allen, but they did. And this

644
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: new president was like, this has to be a priority.

645
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: I mean, the football team needs quit being a joke.

646
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 5: And Dolson had the people in his staff do some

647
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 5: research on some qualities that were looking for and a coach,

648
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 5: somebody who'd been a head coach somewhere and somebody who

649
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 5: had shown a track record of building something at a

650
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Speaker 5: place that hadn't won, and they came up with Signetty.

651
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Speaker 5: But even he there's no way he could have imagined

652
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Speaker 5: nobody's imagined this I mean, Signetti might say that he

653
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 5: has right and some of the comments he made an

654
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: advanced suggest that he did. But I think if you

655
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 5: gave him, you know, studying pentophonal truth serum, he would

656
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 5: say he didn't expect sixteen in the second year.

657
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, so let me get to a comment.

658
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 4: Guard passes along, but he's off today. He's tracking goal

659
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 4: to go for women's basketball West. But he heard Mark

660
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 4: Cuban on serious today say this, A suite for Rose

661
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 4: Bowl is one hundred and fifty grand, Peach Bowl is ninety.

662
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 4: I don't even want to tell you what I paid

663
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: for my suite tonight. Cuban has gotten a lot of attention,

664
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: and I want to set the record straight on sequence

665
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: here because many schools that have become defensive again historically

666
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: losing schools that have gotten defensive about well, why can't

667
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: you find somebody like that? I mean, then that proved

668
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: that it can be done almost anywhere. The comeback is

669
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: what's money? You got to have a fat cat who

670
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: is basically willing to write any check at any time.

671
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: And some schools we have it Minnesota, for example, we

672
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: might not have it. And therefore we got to find

673
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: our own Mark Cuban. Now, what I need from you

674
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: is where Cuban fits in, because I thought a lot

675
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 4: of the success came before Cuban started what is obviously

676
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 4: now have to be a great help writing big checks

677
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 4: to EYEU football. So where in reality, if we're being accurate,

678
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: where does Mark Cuban fit into this whole equation.

679
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, my sense of it is that Cuban didn't really

680
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 5: get that involved until last year. He came to the

681
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: the Notre Dame game when they lost in South bemb

682
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 5: December of twenty twenty four in the playoffs, and met

683
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: Signetty and they're both from the Pittsburgh area and they

684
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 5: hit it off, and at that point he gave some money.

685
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 5: So the first year he really was not really a

686
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 5: factor at all. And then he was quoted recently as

687
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 5: saying he gave more this year than he gave last year.

688
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 5: But you know, I don't think it's like, you know,

689
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 5: fifty million or something. I don't even know what it is.

690
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 5: I mean, And if you from what I know of

691
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 5: talking to other writers who covered the game nationally, I mean,

692
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 5: there are a whole lot of school was Oregon, I

693
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 5: think Texas Tech, LSU, that spent a lot more money

694
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 5: on players than Indiana did with this year. You know,

695
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 5: Wall Street Journal reported that Mendoza was getting two million,

696
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: but there's a lot of players who are getting more

697
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 5: than that, And I don't I've seen that narrative written

698
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 5: that they've bought the way of the championship. But if

699
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 5: you look at the players they got, they nobody ranked

700
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 5: them last year, not being like the top ten portal class.

701
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 5: A lot of schools had better portal classes than Indiana.

702
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 5: This has been more of a triumph of identifying guys

703
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 5: that were overlooked or undervalued by other programs, and guys

704
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: that would fit their system, guys that were coachable, and

705
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 5: guys that they could find ways to maximize in the

706
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: weight room. And they got a lot of those guys.

707
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: They really do, they don't. I mean, Mendoza might be

708
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 5: the biggest get they got out of the portal but

709
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 5: you know, remember he was a two star recruit in

710
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 5: high school. He was going to go to Yale. Know

711
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 5: he went to Call. Wasn't like they went out. Carson

712
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 5: Beck was the big guy you wanted to get back

713
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: this year he's in Miami. Yeah.

714
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 4: Well, in fact, you know Glenn Mason, who's with us

715
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: every week. Part of his point was, Okay, the money's

716
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: the money. But he said, this quarterback came from cal

717
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: You know, it's not like he came from somebody. So

718
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 4: in other words, anybody could have had a shot at him,

719
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. And he wasn't necessarily still

720
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: viewed as this grand prize. And and so you have

721
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: to give the coaches some credit for either recognizing it

722
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 4: or developing something in him as well, or combination of both.

723
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 4: Did you I thought I also read Wall Street Journal

724
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: and I missed this completely. You probably already knew it,

725
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: or I'm sure you knew it. That Mellencamp has his

726
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: own shack at the top of Memorial Stadium on the

727
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: press box side, little little tiny shack where he can

728
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 4: watch his games from it also smoke, because I guess

729
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 4: he's still a smoker. And have you ever you ever

730
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 4: had a chance to get to have an audience with

731
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 4: Mellencamp and get up there.

732
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 5: I've had no audio instance with him. I've seen them

733
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 5: in the elevator, the same elevator that was there when

734
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 5: they were the seventies and rattles all the way up

735
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 5: and down. Yes, the the quarter of the press box there.

736
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 5: It's a horrible place. I mean, the press box says,

737
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 5: you know at IU is super high. Yeah, and this

738
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 5: is like the press box is the fifth floor. His

739
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 5: things on the seventh or eighth floor. So it's not

740
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 5: like it's some luxurious suite. It's just a private place

741
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 5: for him to watch the game.

742
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's that's very very true.

743
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 4: Can you get a sense or can you give us

744
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: a sense of how the campus has been transformed? I

745
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: know you've been there a few times. How can you

746
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 4: convey sort of the phenomenon and the way it's is

747
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 4: seemingly taken over the school.

748
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 5: A multiplicity of ways in terms of the students now

749
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 5: actually come for the longest time, you know, when my

750
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 5: daughter was there, and then like from two thousand and

751
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 5: two to two thousand and six, I think students would

752
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 5: they had a vigorous and lively and tailgate on seventeenth

753
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 5: Street just sort of south of the stadium in that

754
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 5: grassy area, but most of these students wouldn't go to

755
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 5: the game, and the ones that did go to the

756
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 5: game and leave it halftime. Now the students come and

757
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 5: they pretty much stay for the game because Signetty called

758
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 5: them out once on that, and now that they're into

759
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 5: it and they're very vigorous about it. Last week they

760
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: gave out rally towels. The towels they give out towels

761
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 5: now for every game and the line it was like

762
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 5: a two hour wait to get a towel. I saw

763
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 5: some stuff today. People were lining up at like four

764
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 5: in the morning to get a mixed so they could

765
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 5: be there today. The game and a couple of other bars.

766
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 5: Kirk would have shut down tonight. No vehicle traffic. It's

767
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 5: going to be shut down pedestrians only. So it's it's

768
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 5: I mean, it's going to be bananas up. Did they

769
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 5: I think they drained them Showalter Fountain and maybe took

770
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 5: the Is it like a porpoise or a fish? I

771
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 5: don't even know what they're there, but whatever it is,

772
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 5: they took it out.

773
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: Probably move. Why is this run meant so much to you?

774
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 5: To me?

775
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: Yes?

776
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 5: Uh, you know. I don't know if you remember, but

777
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 5: I YOUA football used to be on WWCA and Gary

778
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 5: when I was a little kid. Yeah, and I would

779
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 5: listen to games on the transistor radio. I can remember

780
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 5: Earl Faison, Marv Woodson Archie. I would listen to games

781
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: on the radio. I would sit and listen to the

782
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 5: game of the radio as a seven or eight year

783
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 5: old kid. And I was really sort of energized by

784
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: the sixty seventeen because that nobody expected them to do that.

785
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 5: And even then I listened to the games on the

786
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 5: radio because back then there would be one big ten

787
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 5: game on every weekend. It was rarely, if ever Indiana, uh.

788
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 5: And I remember my dad went to IU Northwest and

789
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: got me a button when they went to the Rose

790
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 5: Bowl and said were Rose Bowl bound. And I wore

791
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 5: that like to school and stuff, and it was a

792
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 5: big deal. And you know, and then once you get

793
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 5: to school there and they were terrible. It's like I've

794
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: covered so many games that I've been through, so many

795
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 5: false alarms where they would start the season three and

796
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 5: oh or four and oh, and then they would play

797
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 5: Ohio State or michigano lose like fifty three to seven,

798
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 5: you know, and when I lost thirty in a row

799
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 5: to Higo State until this year, and you know, the

800
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 5: idea of them beating Michigan or House State for most

801
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 5: of our lives has been what one out of every

802
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 5: thirty games I mean, so to see this happen, it's

803
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 5: it's the greatest. It's the greatest college football story of

804
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 5: all time, and to me, it's one of the greatest

805
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 5: sports stories of all time. I can't think in the

806
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 5: miracle Mets, and you know, there have been some unlikely

807
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 5: underdogs for this program to go from where it has been,

808
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: not just two years ago, forever, to do this and

809
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 5: beat o House State, smash Alabama, to dominate Oregon after

810
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 5: they already beat them once in Eugenie. It's like this

811
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 5: never happened, this ever happened. I mean, I can't. I

812
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 5: can't think of another example, can you?

813
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: No, No, I can't.

814
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: And like I said, Mace, Mace has been all over

815
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 4: this story. He he absolutely loves it and celebrates it

816
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 4: and basically says that this is once this is the

817
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 4: story of the last fifty years of college football, if

818
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: not even longer. There's no question about it. Even though

819
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: you say, well, are they are true Cinderella? But that

820
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: goes back to I think a lot of misinformation that

821
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: you look at them now and say, well, how can

822
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: they be Cinderella. They're killing people, they're spending money, and

823
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 4: it's like, well, no, you got to go back to,

824
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 4: as you said, what these players, these players weren't highly

825
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 4: thought of until they became highly thought of because they

826
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 4: dominated to the degree that they have. And and so

827
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: I still think there are Cinderella elements to the story,

828
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: even if it doesn't look at right now, because of

829
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: their their level, the level of dominance they've achieved going

830
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 4: into tonight.

831
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: I mean when those I remember when Signetty came and

832
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 5: he got most of the players winning the portal. If

833
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 5: you decided to stay, most of them left and he

834
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 5: brought I don't know, the first year, might have been

835
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 5: twelve or thirteen guys from jam U. Sir Rott was one,

836
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 5: and Caitlin Black and didn't play much was one that

837
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 5: halfed Aiden Fisher was probably the best one, the linebacker.

838
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 5: And I think if you ask and it was like, yeah,

839
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 5: those guys were good players at jam you they'll probably

840
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 5: be okay the Big Ten. But they're not right, they're

841
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 5: nothing special. I mean, they're not Ohio state level players,

842
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 5: they're not Michigan level players. They're not Penn State level players.

843
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 5: They're overachievers. And that doesn't that only goes so far

844
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 5: in the Big Ten. And you know, now it's that

845
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 5: they've taken it to the ultimate game.

846
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: How nervous are you tonight.

847
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 5: On a one to ten scale? Yeah, probably about fifteen fifteen.

848
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 4: And is it because that's just the nature of again

849
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 4: still not quite believing this story? Or is it that they've,

850
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: oddly enough, being as dominant as they've had, they've created

851
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: a burden by which I'll ask it this way, is

852
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: it going to be will you will it be a

853
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 4: celebration tonight?

854
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: Or will be it? Will it be a relief of

855
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: a burden?

856
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 4: Have they been so good that now it's like whether

857
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 4: obligated to finish the thing?

858
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: And I'll just breathe a cy Will you breathe a

859
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: sigh of relief?

860
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 4: Will you actually be able to celebrate it tonight if

861
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: they finish this thing?

862
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 5: No, it'll be a celebration. It'll be a celebration. It's

863
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 5: not like I don't. It won't be a cib of relief.

864
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 5: It'll be a disappointment if they lose. Sure to take

865
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 5: the story all the way to the last chapter and not.

866
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 5: You know, forty Pat forty did a good job of

867
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 5: explaining it today. I heard him on the corn Azer podcast.

868
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 5: It would remind him of like in thirdbred racing when

869
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 5: there was a bunch of horses that would win first

870
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: two legs of the Triple Crown and then then win

871
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 5: the bellmon those just short of the goal. So it'd

872
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 5: be a disappointment, but it'll be a celebration. It won't

873
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 5: be a relief a relief I don't know. It'd be

874
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 5: like if it was some team that was picked number

875
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 5: one before the season. Ye when the seventy six Indians

876
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 5: team was expected nothing less than a national championship was

877
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 5: going to satisfy people, and that was sort of a release.

878
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 5: This is going to be a celebration because it's going

879
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 5: to be historic. I mean, if it happens.

880
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 4: The most worrisome thing that you believe Miami represents this

881
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: particular Miami team based on what you know.

882
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 5: The defense can be intimidating. They've got two really good

883
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 5: defensive linemens. They might be able to stop. I used

884
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 5: run there first round NFL type players, and they're playing

885
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: in their home stadium. They're very I mean before the

886
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 5: season they were pretty much consensus top ten, maybe top

887
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 5: five team because of their talent level and Carson Beck's

888
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 5: playing in a lot of big games at Georgia and

889
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 5: at Miami, and I don't think he'll you know, fold

890
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 5: under the stage and you know, the Indiana can't play

891
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 5: the way it's played the last two games. I mean,

892
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 5: the last two games were stressed free. This this sect

893
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 5: will go down to the fourth quarter and you'll have

894
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 5: to make place penn stake.

895
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: Were you tempted to go.

896
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 5: A little bit, but I don't know. I'm not going

897
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 5: to spend four thousand dollars. Yes, And I sort of

898
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 5: have an attitude of like when I was in the media,

899
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 5: I don't like people who no longer were in the

900
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 5: media getting passes and just like cluttering the work area

901
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 5: weren't really working. So I wasn't going to try and

902
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 5: get a press pass or anything. And I'm fine watching

903
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 5: it on TV because I've already gotten a text from

904
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 5: somebody saying it. It's it's been really hard to get

905
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 5: inside that the lines are really long, and security and

906
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 5: stuff and a lot of grumbling about that kind of stuff.

907
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 5: So it's better.

908
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you probably you're probably right about that, And I'm nervous.

909
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 4: I'm not as nervous as you are because I think

910
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 4: you're more invested.

911
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: Part of it. I was mentioned this the other day

912
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: on the radio.

913
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 4: I think because you're you're in the environ or closer

914
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: to the environment more often, and I'm more removed from

915
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 4: it here. I think that by definition makes you more invested.

916
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 4: Although I've I've never enjoyed just watching games on TV

917
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 4: like I've enjoyed watching these games.

918
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no question about that part of it.

919
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: And you've laid out a lot of the history and

920
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: a lot of the baggage and why it ends up,

921
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: you know, feeling why we end up feeling the way

922
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: we do.

923
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: About this thing. There's no there's not any question about that.

924
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 4: I released the wrong word. It's just they've been I

925
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 4: guess I've been surprised by how dominant they've already been

926
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: through this.

927
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: I thought all along, I didn't I thought they could

928
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: keep winning.

929
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 4: I just thought these it's I've been amazed at how

930
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: dominant they've been to this point, haven't you too?

931
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: A certain degree, Yeah, the.

932
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 5: Last two games have been ridiculous. I mean, yeah, no

933
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 5: way I would expect them to beat Alabama like that

934
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 5: and to beat Oregon the way they did. Those are

935
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 5: two teams that Oregon, especially before the season, was a

936
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 5: payoff with some people in the National Championship, and you

937
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 5: know they humiliated him. I mean it was it was

938
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 5: over at halftime then. That we've never seen. I don't

939
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 5: think we've ever seen Indiana ever beat a good team

940
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 5: like that.

941
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: No ever, No, not steamroll, not not look at the

942
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: In fact.

943
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: Let me read you h.

944
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 4: Our friend Patrick Royce, he just texted me earlier today.

945
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: But let me get back to here was this was

946
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 4: during the Alabama game. Here's what he sent Dan. Watching

947
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 4: Indiana be stronger and faster than Alabama blows my mind

948
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 4: and smarter, that's all what, that's all.

949
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: This is what we're talking about, right it.

950
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 4: And he's been around a long time, obviously he's going, well,

951
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: this just doesn't even compute. So I will you be

952
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 4: wearing any like I have? I bought a year ago

953
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: and I jumped on the bandwagon, and I I think

954
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: I've sent you the photo on any university football It's

955
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: a black hoodie red lettering.

956
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: I have it on right now.

957
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 4: Will you be wearing any sort of a ball cap shirt,

958
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 4: anything Indiana related tonight?

959
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 5: Yeah. I've got my long sleeve shirt that I wear

960
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 5: and I got the I got one of those hats

961
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 5: with the it's a black hat, ye for a while,

962
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 5: so I'm in Yes, the state of Indiana outline.

963
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: That's a nice one. I've seen that.

964
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 5: Too, I mean not only an now you grant I'm

965
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 5: a Hoosier so I've lived.

966
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: Yep, you know that's true. There's no question.

967
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 5: This is this is history. So yeah, I'm gonna wear

968
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 5: my stuff and nobody will have seen it. Just my

969
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 5: wife and my dog. But that's it's okay.

970
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: That doesn't matter.

971
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 4: And as you well know, but maybe a lot of

972
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 4: people in our audience might not. We are fifty years

973
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: removed this, you know, this is for twenty twenty six,

974
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 4: fifty years removed from the IU men's football basketball team

975
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: becoming what remains the last undefeated men's basketball champion team.

976
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: I covered.

977
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 4: It was the year after you covered for the student paper.

978
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 4: I covered that team, the thirty two and OHO team.

979
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: So there would be something pretty majestic about having undefeated

980
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 4: national championship teams fifty years apart in basketball and football.

981
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, I think making a perfect symmetry story in Signetti,

982
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 5: I think was asked about Night yesterday and said that

983
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 5: he was a fan. He even liked his Shenanigans.

984
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 4: Is what he called shenanigans. That's a really polite way

985
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 4: to put it. Yeah, that's a that's a very nine

986
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 4: way to put it.

987
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 5: No, that's last.

988
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: That's true. That's a very very good point.

989
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 4: All Right, thanks, my friend. I appreciate you. Enjoy tonight

990
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 4: and we will. I'll probably text you tonight.

991
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 5: I'm going to go breathe into a paperback for.

992
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 2: There you go. Thanks Ricky.

993
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 4: Rick Bosey's longtime Louisville career journal columnist IDs or Indian

994
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 4: idealy student editor and writer like me, and a former

995
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: roommate of the host of this program, going all the

996
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 4: way back to college decades, well more like half a

997
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 4: century ago.

998
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: Back to wrap up the show next, it's the Bumper

999
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: to Bumper Show rack. It's brought to you by American Pressure.

1000
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 4: Good conversation today with John Athletic at three thirty, some

1001
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 4: wool stuff, some National Football League playoff material, and a

1002
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 4: very controversial question asked of him that he did ultimately

1003
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 4: answer towards the end of our segment with Johnny between

1004
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 4: three thirty and four o'clock.

1005
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: No Ben Lieber this week, but we did have Rick Bosch.

1006
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 4: Lots of football talk today, lots of left or playoff talk,

1007
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 4: really lots of believe it or not Vikings conversation, as

1008
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 4: it pertains to my ongoing belief that among the regrets

1009
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 4: this year is that in a season in which I

1010
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 4: don't believe any anybody AFC or NFC looks dominant.

1011
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: You didn't even make it to the party.

1012
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 4: And it's one of those years where I honestly believe

1013
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 4: you make it to the party, you can lie to

1014
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 4: yourself or convince yourself into believing you actually have a

1015
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: chance to win it. But we didn't even come close

1016
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 4: to that. And look what's left mean, Denver's got to

1017
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 4: play a backup quarterback, even though they got a very

1018
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 4: good defense.

1019
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 2: I know that they're at home.

1020
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 4: The Rams certainly didn't look like a dominant team against

1021
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 4: the Bears, although they got the thing done.

1022
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: Seattle might be the closest to dominant, but.

1023
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 4: I'm still not convinced that they're as that much better

1024
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: than than San Francisco. Yet that may be how it

1025
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 4: looks so a squandered opportunity. You could probably placate yourselves

1026
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 4: with the notion that the Vikings were not nearly good enough,

1027
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 4: even if they did better at the quarterback position. They

1028
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 4: had too many other the issues. But I'll say again,

1029
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: I believe eighty percent of the Vikings offensive dysfunction was

1030
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 4: related to the quarterback position.

1031
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: I think this was a year where.

1032
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 4: It made a vulnerable team offensively look worse than it

1033
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: was because of the quarterback. And I do believe as

1034
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 4: your quarterback can play well to very well, it can

1035
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: mitigate and lessen some of the issues facing that club

1036
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 4: as well. And we just didn't see it because we

1037
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 4: had such crappy quarterback play. And now what's on the

1038
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 4: table is what's next and who else are we bringing in?

1039
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 4: And that's going to be I know it's sad for people,

1040
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 4: but that's going to be the story this entire offseason.

1041
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 4: What else do they do at the quarterback position. There

1042
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 4: are other questions that obviously need to be answered, including

1043
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 4: whether Brian floores we back as defensive coordinator, which I

1044
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 4: think is now if he I'm even still concerned that

1045
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 4: even if he doesn't take a head coaching job, that

1046
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 4: he might end up someplace else as coordinator. We've got

1047
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 4: too many jackals who have not ruled who covered the

1048
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 4: team every day who have not ruled that out as

1049
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: uh as well my prediction tonight. I'm gonna say, man,

1050
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: this is a who's who on the field. By the way,

1051
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 4: for this game, I've seen Jimmy Johnson, I've seen Mark Cuban,

1052
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 4: I've seen now it's a shot at Tom Brady. I've

1053
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 4: got Indiana in a I think Indiana buy a touchdown.

1054
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: I'll be shocked if this is another blowout like the

1055
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 4: other two have been or the others have been.

1056
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 2: But I do like their chances.

1057
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 4: By the way, keep in mind, you know Miami's got

1058
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 4: some injury issues. They even have a suspense Xavier Lucas

1059
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 4: the dB suspended for the first half because of a

1060
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 4: targeting targeting targeting penalty. Indiana is healthier, although Indiana lost

1061
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 4: probably it's best defensive player if you're a call celebrating

1062
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago. So I overall, though, it

1063
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 4: appears that Miami's got more injury issues, and I just

1064
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 4: think Indiana has proven they're better than Miami, even though

1065
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: Miami started the season being very good. They're about as

1066
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 4: complete a team as I've seen. And as I said

1067
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 4: the other day with was it Mace somebody, they have

1068
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: among great teams I've watched or paid attention to the

1069
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: last twenty years.

1070
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: They might have the lowest.

1071
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 4: Doofest factor of a good team I've ever seen, because

1072
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 4: even good teams can have it, can exhibit stupidity. In fact,

1073
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 4: they even maybe feel like, well, we're so good, we

1074
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 4: can get away with it. That's one of the things

1075
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: I love about this Signetti coach team is that there's

1076
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 4: no nonsense, and even if they're dominant, they don't basically

1077
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 4: allow that to you know, give them the license to

1078
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 4: do stupid things.

1079
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: I don't just mean celebration.

1080
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 4: I mean stupid penalties, just dumb plays that don't make

1081
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: any sense, that aren't smart. Very low dofest factor, maybe

1082
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 4: the lowest I've seen him on great teams. So I'm

1083
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 4: looking forward to it, and I'm sure we will review

1084
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Speaker 4: it tomorrow. Now, I don't think we're gonna be able

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Speaker 4: to get Signetti on the show. It'd be nice, but

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's likely. I don't really have even

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Speaker 4: with Boss, I'm not sure that would be workable at

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Speaker 4: this point.

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Speaker 3: Is guards you back tomorrow as far as you know,

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Speaker 3: I think I'm here Tuesday and Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Well I didn't realize that. Yeah, easy. Another West Coast

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Speaker 2: game on Wednesday. He does.

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Speaker 4: Oh, so he's out early in the week, okay, and

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Speaker 4: he gave me the list we've got. We're moving some

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Speaker 4: people around middle of the week for sure. Now that

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Speaker 4: and now that we're in the sports abyss, we've got

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Speaker 4: a little bit more flicked to flexibility there tonight on

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Speaker 4: the fan, there's no fandom the man in the air correct,

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Speaker 4: We're going straight to Minnesota while the pregame show is falling.

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Speaker 2: Us involved tonight or not as far as I know, Well,

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Speaker 2: you never knows. With him.

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Speaker 4: It's a holiday, he may it's a holiday. I didn't

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Speaker 4: think Fallness worked on holidays. I am I wrong case.

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Speaker 4: I feel like he's taking some holidays off.

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Speaker 3: He took a weekend off for hockey tournament, the wild

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Speaker 3: trade for Quinn Hughes.

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Speaker 4: So that's still amazing to me. Does he regret that?

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Speaker 4: Does he feel any guilt? If they have to think so,

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Speaker 4: I think he probably would.

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Speaker 2: So it's you tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: I hope you can continue to survive whatever crowd that

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Speaker 4: you've been dealing with.

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Speaker 2: And I think Louis moved from Tuesday Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: But we'll give you all the details tomorrow right before

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Speaker 4: the program. Thanks for texting today, Thanks for watching, thank

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Speaker 4: you for listening, and we will talk to you tomorrow

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Speaker 4: beginning at three o'clock right here on the fan. The

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Speaker 4: following is an exclusive presentation of the Minnesota Wild, the

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Speaker 4: National Hockey League, and the This at a Wild Radio Network.

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Speaker 7: Coming off a terrible home stand and missing key players

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Speaker 7: from the lineup, the odds definitely weren't in the Wild

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Speaker 7: favor Saturday night in Buffalo. Despite that, Wow, well, we

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Speaker 7: went ray attack, a prey, soft cross, a super roll stars,

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Speaker 7: Matt suker Row wins in it over time, his second.

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Speaker 3: Overtime winner of the year, and the Wild stun.

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Speaker 2: The Sabers and Buffalo. It's a five four win from Minnesota.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely a great start to the road trip as the

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Speaker 7: Wild stop the three game slide.

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Speaker 6: Think the last three games, park level was summar So

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Speaker 6: you just gotta get energy.

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Speaker 5: You just try to do the things right all the time,

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Speaker 5: and you find yourself tied.

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Speaker 2: You want a third year on the road, and it

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Speaker 2: gave us a chance, but we miss those.

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Speaker 6: Guys obviously nearly was It's uh, we're not looking at excuses.

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Speaker 5: That's something that something way we think about here.

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Speaker 7: That's Marcus Felino. Tonight the road trip continues in Toronto.

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Speaker 7: No changes to the lineup. That means once again, it's

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Speaker 7: all hands.

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Speaker 2: I'm dead.

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Speaker 6: I think we've got a lot of competitive guys, really

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Speaker 6: good players, and guys that I've played a long time