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Speaker 2: Okay, this is how we're going to start. Let's do

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Speaker 2: it then, Bab.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to work, told Austin before the show today.

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Speaker 3: Let's just have some fun. There's a note in this office.

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Speaker 3: It says this is supposed to be fun. Have fun.

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Speaker 2: Now, it would be fun to just.

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Speaker 3: Go for three hours, but it's also fun to include others.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith will join us at one o'clock. Tom Gallardo

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Speaker 2: Tommy G.

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Speaker 3: Austin gets to do something tomorrow night that I think

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Speaker 3: many in the broadcast world would envy. He gets to

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Speaker 3: call a winner go home game match at TQL Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, home game season on the line against a

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Speaker 3: bitter ride hell Is Real Columbus Cincinnati tomorrow Winter Advance

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Speaker 3: as loser goes home. We'll talk to Tom Gletter about that.

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Speaker 3: In our number three. We also have our weekly pick

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Speaker 3: them segment with high school football in the playoffs. We've

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Speaker 3: got round two of the playoffs. We'll dive into that.

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Speaker 3: here in our number one. And it's got to be

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Speaker 3: and third hour. We'll take some phone calls five to one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. Let's get to the top sports stories happening

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Speaker 3: right now around the sports world. Let's start here in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Last night, Austin Xavier winners in a tight one. I

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Speaker 3: Richard Patino earlier in the week said something along the

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Speaker 3: lines of get comfortable in the uncomfortable. You're gonna be

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Speaker 3: playing a lot of close games this year. Xavier has

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Speaker 3: They will keep improving under Richard Patino. So get him

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Speaker 3: now if you can. But last night some good things

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Speaker 3: But what I saw as well last night, Austin is

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Speaker 3: a team that's going to continue to get better. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, we here in Cincinnati are extremely spoiled

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Speaker 2: That's right, both friends of the show.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how cool is that locally you want to

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Speaker 3: the game's going on. There's also this remember this name,

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Speaker 3: Austen Mark this down. October seventh, twenty twenty five. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna give you the name Nate Champion. Nate Champion is

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Speaker 3: the Lemoine Dolphins men's basketball head coach. He has been

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Speaker 3: Any guess how old Nate Champion is.

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Speaker 2: He's been there for six years. I'm gonna say forty

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Speaker 2: thirty three, thirty three Nate Champion. Ok Nate watching that

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Speaker 3: Offense scored seventy four points, he said, B minus. They

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Speaker 3: They have found ways to win two tight ones. The

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Speaker 3: In a Top twenty five matchup tonight. Blue bloods in

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Speaker 2: Let's stick on the college slate.

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Speaker 3: Surprised, I think is an understatement Austin to read this

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Speaker 3: Sticking to the college world, how about Kentucky quarterback Zach Calzada.

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Speaker 3: If you're not familiar with Zach, Zach is the Kentucky quarterback.

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Speaker 3: just ill advised, bad look all around. MLB qualifying offers

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Speaker 3: number one. Good news for Jaden Daniels of the Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 2: He will not require surgery.

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Speaker 3: some point. Antonio Brown was arrested on an attempted murder

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Speaker 2: Honest to god, I have not followed along with him

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Speaker 2: he's been doing. If you look up my muted words

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Speaker 2: and blocked accounts anything, Antonio Brown is one of them.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of that dude, and even more

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Speaker 2: reason not to be with this alleged this allegation now,

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Speaker 2: and I want to make note of it. Carly Hearsay.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you right now that if I showed

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Speaker 5: All my Jet fan friends, including Alan Han on the

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Speaker 2: They'll look for hope. Well, here's what I would say

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Speaker 2: Not anybody can be beautiful. Joe Burrow cannot. Joe, No,

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Speaker 8: I think it would be crazy for the Bengals to

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Speaker 2: They won't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: He's ended three seasons on ir If you're able to

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Speaker 9: Let me ask you a question to can how do

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Speaker 2: Coach chefs to go. We're just talking.

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Speaker 7: How do you think Joe Burrow feels about the Bengals

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Speaker 2: Len' ask you a question. If I were Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 12: Left Baseline into the corner goes to Robinson, right back

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Speaker 12: to Anderson. He gurl to the elbow, rises up for

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Speaker 12: fifteen foot of that's heavy off the back flan.

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Speaker 2: It's no good. Bar Vicar with the rebound thows.

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Speaker 12: It outside the messina more bluff to three. Didn't take it,

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Speaker 12: We'll give it up the Carol left side of the Ford.

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Speaker 12: Anderson he attacks and.

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Speaker 2: Goes for the dunk and the guard gets the duck.

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Speaker 12: Anderson at sixty three, rises in and a drive from

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Speaker 12: the left side.

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Speaker 2: That's a two hand slam. Xavier lead sixty three fifty five.

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Speaker 3: That's how it sounded from Joe Sunderman. Last night, Xavier

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Speaker 3: seventy four sixty nine winners over Lemoine the Dolphins. The

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Speaker 3: Lamoinne Dolphins came into the sid TOAs center put up

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Speaker 3: a good fight. Xavier moved to two and zero. Richard

447
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Speaker 3: Patino tweeted out grades. You can go find them, but

448
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Speaker 3: let's get back to the business at hand, Austin. It's

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Speaker 3: the audio we played from first take right before we

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Speaker 3: went to break Greeney, a Jets fan getting bombarded in

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Speaker 3: his group, chats about man Joe Burrow is the guy

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Speaker 3: that we want as Jets fans and right away. Dan

453
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Speaker 3: Orlofski says, nah, that's not happening. Andrew Hawkins points out

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Speaker 3: he's finished the season on IR a couple times if

455
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Speaker 3: you look back and what you can recoup from a

456
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Speaker 3: trade like that, not saying they'll do it. And then

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Speaker 3: there's the Joe Burrow factor of what Joe would want

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Speaker 3: at the root of all this, and out of Schefter

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Speaker 3: made some good points. It's an arms race in the

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Speaker 3: NFL where it feels like now more than ever, anyone

461
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Speaker 3: can be had. The Jets have five future first round picks,

462
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Speaker 3: the Rams have two, the Browns have a bike. There

463
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Speaker 3: are teams that are stockpiling picks for a reason. But

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Speaker 3: it's something that Schefter said that makes me think that

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Speaker 3: this would never ever be a possibility, even if you're

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Speaker 3: one of those out there that think, yes, the value

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Speaker 3: is too high to pass up for multiple first round

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Speaker 3: picks for a quarterback that has had injury problems. Schefty said,

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Speaker 3: it's a league where teams always need a quarterback and

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Speaker 3: if you are one of the few teams who has

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Speaker 3: their answer at quarterback. The Bills are a team like that,

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs are a team like that, The Bengals are

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Speaker 3: a team like that, you could probably go through a

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Speaker 3: handful of others. Drake May and the Patriots have that.

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Speaker 3: You you can't move on from one of the best

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Speaker 3: in the league in a league that's going to go

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Speaker 3: as the quarterback goes. But with that being said, Austin,

478
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Speaker 3: that's a very interesting conversation, and it's a bye week

479
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Speaker 3: conversation because there's just not as much out there. But

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Speaker 3: that's an interesting conversation, an interesting topic when it comes

481
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Speaker 3: to these teams that are stockpiling these picks that are

482
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Speaker 3: going to be quarterback needy and probably willing to give

483
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Speaker 3: up an arm and a leg for them.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think that anyone is gettable.

485
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen's not gettable. Patrick Mahomes is not gettable. Lamar

486
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Speaker 2: Jackson is not getting. The value that comes with those

487
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: guys to their franchises is immeasurable, and it doesn't matter

488
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Speaker 2: if you offer them five first round picks or not.

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Speaker 2: Those guys are not attainable.

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Speaker 3: Where Josh Allen was fed up with Buffalo and what

491
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Speaker 3: they were putting together and constantly falling short, and Josh

492
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Speaker 3: was like, I am done, I want out. I want

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Speaker 3: to go somewhere else. If you're Buffalo, would you oblige? No,

494
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Speaker 3: you're here, Yeah, you're the guy exactly.

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Speaker 2: We're building our franchise around you, and we'll try to

496
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Speaker 2: figure out a way to do this together. That should

497
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Speaker 2: be the mentality of the Bengals. They are not going

498
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Speaker 2: to trade Joe Burrow. They should not trade Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: The reason this conversation happens is because people in the

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Speaker 2: national media know the way the Bengals operate. So if

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Speaker 2: you look on social media right now, all you will

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Speaker 2: see is a constant berating of Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn,

503
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Speaker 2: Troy Blackburn, and the entire family. They are the recipients

504
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Speaker 2: of all the criticism from Bengals fans and fans across

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Speaker 2: the NFL because there is a fundamental disagreement with the

506
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Speaker 2: philosophy and the belief in the way that the Brown

507
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Speaker 2: family operates the organization. So they take a lot of arrows,

508
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Speaker 2: they take a lot of criticism. The national media never

509
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: criticizes the ownership group. But there's another way to do that.

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Speaker 2: It's by talking about stories like this. This is not

511
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Speaker 2: a story about, Oh, the Jets want a quarterback. This

512
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Speaker 2: is a conversation aimed at Hey, the Bengals don't do

513
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Speaker 2: things well enough to keep a quarterback like Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: And as you mentioned in the last segment, there is

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Speaker 2: history to go off of with Carson Palmer and with

516
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Speaker 2: Andy Dalton. And the thing that the Bengals have to understand,

517
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Speaker 2: Mike and Katie and Duke and Troy and Zach and

518
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: everybody at that organization is that if they screw up

519
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: the Joe Burrow thing, there will be fans that leave

520
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Speaker 2: and never come back because it will be the third

521
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Speaker 2: strike and people will be out. It could be the

522
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Speaker 2: fifth strike. If you consider Ken Anderson and boomerasiazin. Those

523
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Speaker 2: guys got to Super Bowls, those guys won MVPs. There

524
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Speaker 2: were some good teams on that those guys played for

525
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Speaker 2: as well. But if again, in today's modern era of

526
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Speaker 2: the NFL, you've had three franchise quarterbacks that once you've

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Speaker 2: given them the contracts they deserve, and contracts that, by

528
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Speaker 2: the way, are not hamstringing your ability to build a franchise. Sure,

529
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Speaker 2: because there is precedent across the National Football League for

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Speaker 2: once you pay your quarterback, here's how you can shift

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Speaker 2: and operate and don't build a competitive team. So these

532
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Speaker 2: stories to me, are not about Joe Burrow wants out,

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Speaker 2: or the Jets want Joe Burrow, or this, that and

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Speaker 2: the other. It's my opinion that this is a national

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Speaker 2: media way and a conversation specifically somebody like Adam Schefter

536
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Speaker 2: might bring up it is that they believe the Bengals

537
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Speaker 2: ownership group is so incompetent that this is actually a possibility,

538
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Speaker 2: and this is their way of criticizing them. Now, Bengals

539
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Speaker 2: fans will then get really mad at the national media

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Speaker 2: for bringing up this conversation when in reality you're both

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Speaker 2: doing the same thing. Fans are doing it directly, the

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Speaker 2: national media might be doing it indirectly. The point of

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Speaker 2: the matter is there is a disconnect that the Bengals

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Speaker 2: have when it comes to being able to build around

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Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback. And because of the history of that,

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Speaker 2: this is not an astronomically out of the out of

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Speaker 2: possibility conversation. We saw it happen with Carson Palmer, and

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Speaker 2: Carson did get to that point where after he was

549
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Speaker 2: in screaming matches, as he said, with Mike Brown about

550
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Speaker 2: trying to build the organization, they went their separate ways.

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Speaker 2: Carson walked away from football and had no problem with that,

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Speaker 2: and I have again it's been one of the many

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Speaker 2: I've said this a thousand times since I've had the

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Speaker 2: chance to be on the air. Here, Carson Palmer was right,

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Speaker 2: and Bengals fans should applaud Carson Palmer because what he

556
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Speaker 2: did was demand an aggressive pursuit of a championship, and

557
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Speaker 2: they didn't see things the same way. Mike's vision on

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Speaker 2: an aggressive pursuit of a championship is different than Carson's,

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Speaker 2: and Mike has changed over the years. Andy Dalton was

560
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Speaker 2: never really that guy, and their best season in twenty fifteen,

561
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Speaker 2: they could have won the Super Bowl, but Andy got

562
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: hurt and things fell apart in that playoff game and

563
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Speaker 2: they were never the same again. And so I think

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Speaker 2: it would be foolish for the Bengals to move on

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Speaker 2: from Joe Burrow. I don't think the Jets have any

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Speaker 2: any reason, or any possibility, or any likelihood whatsoever of

567
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Speaker 2: actually trying to acquire him, and I don't think the

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Speaker 2: Bengals would ever do it because those people, the Brown family,

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Speaker 2: the Blackgirn family, they are not stupid people. They understand

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and his impact here, which is why the

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Speaker 2: pressure should be on for them internally to figure this

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Speaker 2: out and not let it get to a point of

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Speaker 2: a Carson Palmer and a guy who is so angry

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Speaker 2: that he wants to walk away or throw this organization

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Speaker 2: under the bus. And if you're Joe Burrow, why wouldn't

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Speaker 2: you want to be here? They've drafted your best friend,

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Speaker 2: They've done everything you've asked them to do over the

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Speaker 2: last twelve months. You've done your part. Now it's up

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Speaker 2: to them. And how long of a lease did they

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Speaker 2: get in his mind? I don't know, but this offense,

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Speaker 2: I mean, where else would you want to play?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to go play? And in uh? One

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Speaker 2: of these teams with no weapons whatsoever, with no offensive line?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the only way it becomes more of a

586
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Speaker 3: talking point is if Burrow's anger with the organization becomes insurmountable.

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Speaker 3: If they don't fix what has hampered this team, the

588
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Speaker 3: offensive line and the defense. At some point, you have

589
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Speaker 3: to fix it and take steps to do so, or

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is gonna sit back there and say, well,

591
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Speaker 3: what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: And I don't think I don't think Joe's foolish. I

593
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Speaker 2: think Joe understands that there has been an effort to

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Speaker 2: do that. Like obviously, it hasn't worked. He is one

595
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Speaker 2: of the most competitive people you'll ever meet. Yes he is.

596
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Speaker 2: He just wants to win, no doubt. But he also

597
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: he understands and that in the last four drafts they've

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Speaker 2: used three first round picks, four second round picks, and

599
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Speaker 2: three third round picks on defensive players. He understands that.

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Speaker 2: He sees that they fired lou Ana Rumo, they fired

601
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Speaker 2: James Betcher, they fired Marion Hobby, they fired multiple offensive

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Speaker 2: line coaches since Joe has been here. I understand he's

603
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: got to understand that they are at least trying. They

604
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Speaker 2: have invested heavily in the offensive line. He has to.

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Speaker 3: Understand that trying in the product working, no doubt, And

606
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Speaker 3: that's the issue of frustration. That's where it has to

607
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: get to, Okay, where Joe is going to start questioning

608
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Speaker 3: the process. It's one thing to question the process. It's

609
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Speaker 3: another thing if the process isn't happening at all. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's where we get The lines are blurred

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Speaker 3: sometimes because you think the Bengals they're not even trying.

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Speaker 3: I believe they're trying.

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Speaker 2: I strongly feel like they're trying, but they're failing in

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Speaker 2: their execution, and that has to change my question.

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Speaker 3: Let's say it's three first round picks. How many quarterbacks

616
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Speaker 3: in the league are safe and untouchable? From that, Josh

617
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Speaker 3: Allen Drake may.

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Speaker 2: Too early to tell.

619
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Speaker 3: Like if New England right now got three first for Drake,

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Speaker 3: may you say no, yeah, right now? I think it's

621
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Speaker 3: too early to tell. Joe Burrows untouchable. Lamar Jackson is untouchable.

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is untouchable, like Trevor Lawrence is not untouchable

623
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Speaker 3: in Jacksonville. No, I don't know if bo Nix is untouchable.

624
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Speaker 3: Is Justin Herbert untouchable?

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Speaker 13: Uh?

626
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Speaker 3: Like you call up the Chargers and you say, here

627
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Speaker 3: are three first round picks we want Justin Herbert? I

628
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Speaker 3: think because I feel like he's right on the border. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's on the border. I think he is with Harball.

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Speaker 2: If something happens to Harball, or if you know that

631
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Speaker 2: that doesn't work out over the next year or so

632
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Speaker 2: for whatever reason, then maybe he is. Yeah, But I

633
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Speaker 2: think the Chargers are all in on the current plan

634
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Speaker 2: with Harball. Yeah.

635
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Speaker 3: The the records after paying Carson Palmer, Andy Dalton and

636
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow have been an issue. They have not been

637
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Speaker 3: able to put together a winning team since then. They

638
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: have to fix that or conversations, as Austin mentioned, like

639
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: these will continue to happen, not because it's plausible, but

640
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: because of the franchise and if it ever got to

641
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Speaker 3: a point where Joe Burrow said, hey, I need out

642
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Speaker 3: at the core of it, I appreciate the effort and

643
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Speaker 3: how I've been taken care of, but the most important

644
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Speaker 3: thing to me is winning Super Bowls. Joe Burrow has

645
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Speaker 3: said that if you're not putting together a team that

646
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Speaker 3: can win Super Bowls, then you are running the risk

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Speaker 3: of something like that becoming at least plausible.

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Speaker 2: The last two times this has happened, the Bengals have

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Speaker 2: been able to point the finger at somebody else. They somehow,

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Speaker 2: some way made Carson Palmer out to be the bad guy.

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Speaker 2: I fundamentally disagree with that. Carson was in the right,

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Speaker 2: but the Bengals got to pass because Carson got painted

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Speaker 2: as the bad guy. Andy. You can blame the injuries,

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Speaker 2: you can blame Marvin kind of as the scapegoat. I

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Speaker 2: think they did a wonderful job building around Andy Dalton,

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Speaker 2: especially leading up to twenty fifteen. He gets hurt. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't the same. Andy was never the best quarterback in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, but they were capable in that twenty fifteen season.

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Speaker 2: And then it fell apart again and you kind of

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Speaker 2: blame Marvin, you kind of blame the lunatics and that

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Speaker 2: night in Pittsburgh and Andy was hurt anyways against Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: so he doesn't get the blame. They don't get the blame.

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Speaker 2: Somebody else gets the blame. Well, now there is nobody

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Speaker 2: else left to blame. Yep. Now you might point it,

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Speaker 2: and this is I'll tell you how people are going

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Speaker 2: to try to spin it. Joe Burrow gets hurt all

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Speaker 2: the time, Joe Burrow's injury prone. That we already hear

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Speaker 2: that it was impossible to build around it because his

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Speaker 2: contract was too much. Those are the narratives that people

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Speaker 2: are going to try to spend when in reality it's

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Speaker 2: that what I just said, the Bengals invested a ton

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Speaker 2: of money in draft capital in a defense and screwed

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Speaker 2: it up. There will have nobody left to blame but themselves.

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Speaker 2: If we get to the end of the Borough era

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Speaker 2: three or four five years from now and there is

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Speaker 2: not at least some at least another Super Bowl appearance

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Speaker 2: or at least in some way, shape or form, repairing

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Speaker 2: this franchise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to take a break. Let's try to

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Speaker 3: get a phone call or too before the top of

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Speaker 3: the hour. That happens next. Your reactions leave us a

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Speaker 3: reaction on your talk back today as well what you

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Speaker 3: make about the conversation on first take around Joe Burrow

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Speaker 3: and more TESPN FI teen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. You

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Speaker 2: Chiley, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: It is the Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. We have a few minutes before we

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Speaker 3: get to Charlie Goldsmith's and we'll try to get a

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Speaker 3: call or two in.

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Speaker 2: John was the first to call. What's up? John?

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Speaker 14: The Noon Fellows on five weeks great good afternoons. They're

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Speaker 14: awesome to hear about. I just want to come in

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Speaker 14: from the periphery a little bit here. Obviously got two

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Speaker 14: thousand miles away. But this morning, Albert Breer, who is

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Speaker 14: the chief content creator for a Monday Morning Quarterback and

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Speaker 14: as an Ohio State Guy was on the local station

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Speaker 14: from seven to eight. He was talking about if the

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Speaker 14: Bengals getting in the playoffs at nine to eight is

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Speaker 14: the seventh seed and Bob's back, and it almost seems

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Speaker 14: like he knows something is if he's coming back sooner

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Speaker 14: and that there's still alive. I'm not sure I do

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Speaker 14: want to see him play again this season, because even

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Speaker 14: if they're out of it, if he doesn't play again

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Speaker 14: the season, he would have played five quarters in about

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Speaker 14: a twenty.

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Speaker 2: Month period, sure, which is never good for a quarter.

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Speaker 2: Tony you know that position a lot better.

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Speaker 14: I think we should, yeah, got to get him back

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Speaker 14: out there, you know, just to see how he's doing.

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Speaker 14: As far as the other thing, I think he is

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Speaker 14: so calculating as a player that if he is looking

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Speaker 14: to move on, he's probably looking at the landscape and

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Speaker 14: like the Jets would be like a no go, Like

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Speaker 14: I wouldn't want to play for the Jets no matter what.

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Speaker 14: But obviously the Rams will be a place where he

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Speaker 14: might look to go. Sean McVay better for his.

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Speaker 2: Brand, that type of thing.

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Speaker 14: But he does seem a little bit different than Cruston

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Speaker 14: Palmer in the sense that he really is committed to Cincinnati, wants.

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Speaker 10: To win there.

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Speaker 14: And I'm asking you guys this because you're from there.

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Speaker 14: He's the most popular player in the history of this franchise. Correct, No, none.

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Speaker 2: Every close.

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Speaker 3: He's the best quarterback in the history of the franchise,

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Speaker 3: and that's saying something because there's been some really, really

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Speaker 3: good ones.

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Speaker 2: I do think there is a difference in the type

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Speaker 2: of personality between him and Carson. I do think Mike

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Speaker 2: is maybe not the same guy he was, you know,

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Speaker 2: ten fifteen years ago when all this was happening as well.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, exactly, He's probably evolved a little bit. We've seen

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Speaker 14: they spend money, They've put capital into the offensive line,

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Speaker 14: having been right on it, and I still think it

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Speaker 14: goes back to coaching. That's where you can really pay

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Speaker 14: and get the most out of that. But you know,

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Speaker 14: hopefully he doesn't want to move because he just doesn't

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Speaker 14: seem like that kind of guy that wants to quit

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Speaker 14: jump ship. He's pretty out of mean bout wanting to

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Speaker 14: bring a Super Bowl to Cincinnati. As an Ohio guy,

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Speaker 14: I think that means a lot.

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Speaker 3: That's fair, john I appreciate you that. Have a great weekend,

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Speaker 3: Johnny you too. Uh, one more here before we got

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Speaker 3: to get to a break in. Charlie Goldsmith, Dave, what's up?

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Speaker 10: Hey? Gots sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Dave?

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Speaker 15: Thanks for taking my call. Hey, So I brought this

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Speaker 15: up to me the other day. So I've been a

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Speaker 15: Bengal fan for a long time. I've seen I saw

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Speaker 15: the eighty Super Bowl, I saw the eight eight Super

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Speaker 15: Bowl and since nineteen eighty eight. Okay, there's been one

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Speaker 15: common thread to this whole organization, right, and that's the

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Speaker 15: guy that owns the football team. So everybody can get

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Speaker 15: on the on the wagon of fire zat fire Duke.

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Speaker 15: You know, we've gone through that song and dance and coaches,

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Speaker 15: but the one common thread on this organization is the

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Speaker 15: owner and the ownership group. And until something changes there,

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Speaker 15: this is you're going to be a roller coaster organization.

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Speaker 15: Up for a few years, down for a few years.

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Speaker 15: You know, everybody wants to make a big deal about

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Speaker 15: you know, they didn't do anything at the trade deadline

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Speaker 15: and they didn't surrender the white flag. Well, in my opinion,

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Speaker 15: if they think that they still have a chance, they

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Speaker 15: should have made some deals to improve the defense. They didn't,

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Speaker 15: so that's the wave in the white flag.

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Speaker 10: In my opinion. Yeah, oh, you know they wanted to

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Speaker 10: trade everybody or not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they go in at the deadline, you said, okay,

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Speaker 3: they're trying to win, now standing pat, it does send

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Speaker 3: a message that we're just going to keep on with

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Speaker 3: the status quo. And the status quo is what's so

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Speaker 3: frustrating the.

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Speaker 15: Fans, right, I mean it's you know, and you know,

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Speaker 15: I just I go back to the fact, you know,

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Speaker 15: and everybody, you know, I get it. He spent money, yes,

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Speaker 15: but he didn't have a choice but to spend money.

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Speaker 15: He had no choice but to pay Joe Burrow. He

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Speaker 15: had no choice but to pay Jamar Chap because he

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Speaker 15: doesn't pay them. There's sixty five thousand empty seats down

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Speaker 15: there at the stadium that's got his dad's.

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Speaker 10: Name on it.

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Speaker 16: Dave.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate your phone call, man, Thank you, have a

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Speaker 3: great day.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing, Austin, and I get that it's going

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Speaker 3: to come back to that. I if this was ten

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Speaker 3: years ago, maybe, but I genuinely think at the top

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Speaker 3: of the organization changes have been made from a philosophical

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Speaker 3: standpoint that they are trying.

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Speaker 2: To do more. Yeah, that's undeniab.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about the Ring of Honor, whether you think

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Speaker 3: the Ring of Honor is too late, whatever, they're doing it.

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Speaker 3: They're upgrading the stadium, They've spent more in free agency.

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Speaker 3: They've committed more guaranteed money and contracts than they ever

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Speaker 3: have before. They're adding void years to contracts, like in

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Speaker 3: my opinion, they are trying.

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Speaker 2: They just they've expanded their personnel department. At the root

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Speaker 2: of it, they've expanded their football research and their analytics department.

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Speaker 3: Their identification of players and fits for this team and

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Speaker 3: development have just not have not matched correct. They've spent

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Speaker 3: the money, spent the draft picks, they've changed the contracts,

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Speaker 3: they've signed and re signed their big players. I just

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Speaker 3: don't think the decisions at times have been the right

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Speaker 3: ones based on the personnel side.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith will join us next on the Friday Football

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith joins us to kick this second hour off.

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Speaker 3: He's standing by right now as we go to Charlie. Hey, Charlie,

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Speaker 3: what's up.

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Speaker 10: I'm doing great? How are you?

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Speaker 2: Charlie? Here's what I need from you. Give me some positivity.

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Speaker 3: Give me the most positive story coming out from the

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Speaker 3: Bengals into the bye week that you have.

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Speaker 10: I was ready to go full you know Bearcats previews

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Speaker 10: for tonight. If you're looking for some positivity.

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Speaker 2: What do you know about Georgia State?

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Speaker 13: Uh?

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Speaker 10: Hunter was there back a million years ago. I remember

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Speaker 10: that I used to be good at knowing mid majors.

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Speaker 10: I'd say around twenty eighteen I lost that skill.

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Speaker 2: Do you know Georgia State's mascot Nah Panthers. Very good? Wow,

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Speaker 2: very good, Charlie. You're one and O. The game just

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Speaker 2: doesn't leave you. You know.

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Speaker 10: I was ready to say no, and then Panthers came

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Speaker 10: out of nowhere.

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Speaker 3: Man, you're one and O. Get yourself to two and

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Speaker 3: L give me something positive for the Bengals.

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Speaker 10: Uh, This Joe Flacco is playing at a top eight,

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Speaker 10: top ten quarterback level. It's the most married the run

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Speaker 10: in the past game I've ever been. They've unlocked different

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Speaker 10: ways to make the most out of Chase Brown, p

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Speaker 10: Ryan when he's been healthy. I'm still believer and andre

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Speaker 10: Josavaj and that paid off against the Jets. The tight

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Speaker 10: end room is not at all what they expected heading

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Speaker 10: into the year, and they're still getting production out of that.

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Speaker 10: The rookie guards are playing okay. But I'm not gonna

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Speaker 10: lie to you, man. I just watched a bunch of

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Speaker 10: Samar Stewart tape and that kind of sucked any positivity

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Speaker 10: I could muster for more.

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Speaker 3: Than a minute, Charlie, in all honesty, if they find

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Speaker 3: a way with how bad the defense is to just

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Speaker 3: win the last two weeks. Is Joe Flacco the talk

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Speaker 3: of the NFL right now?

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Speaker 10: I just keep going back to the fact that the

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Speaker 10: Colts benched him for Anthony Richardson last year. You know,

864
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Speaker 10: they benched Richardson for Flacco and then bench Flaco again

865
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 10: for Richardson. That's how low things were for Flacco. I mean,

866
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 10: this guy can just play, he would be the talk

867
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 10: of the NFL. He's making or he's completing real passes.

868
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 10: It's not just you know, dinks and dunks like no offense.

869
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 10: A lot of what Aaron Rodgers has been doing in Pittsburgh.

870
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 10: He's playing real high level quarterbacks for a guy who,

871
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 10: I believe, outside of that run in Cleveland, had won

872
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 10: like two games since twenty nineteen, outside of like the

873
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 10: four he won in Cleveland. And he's proven that he's

874
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 10: a guy who probably should have been getting more of

875
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 10: an opportunity all along.

876
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: You mentioned Shamar Stewart and how difficult maybe it's been.

877
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 2: Watch that tape. Why hasn't it worked? What have we learned,

878
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: if anything, about why it hasn't worked for Schmar.

879
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 10: Awareness play recognition, he ends up on the ground a lot.

880
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 10: Rush lanes wore a big thing as I went through

881
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 10: that tape, like trying too much to make a play

882
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 10: and having poor technique doing so, and letting Caleb Williams

883
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 10: or even Aaron Rodgers sneak out the back door on

884
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 10: a scramble. Aside from the Bears game, he's kind of

885
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 10: quietly been getting benched down the stretch recently, which has

886
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 10: been very concerning. The mistackles have been a problem that

887
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 10: goes back to technique. It's all of the worst case

888
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 10: scenario stuff for when you draft a project who then

889
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 10: misses a ton of practice and then misses more time

890
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 10: during the regular season due to an injury, if you

891
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 10: could dream up a worst case scenario of what that

892
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 10: would translate into. That's what I saw going through Schamar's

893
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 10: tape this morning.

894
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: A week for a bye is a week to self

895
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: scout and really assess where you are as a team.

896
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 3: The defensive side of the ball, we know it's been terrible.

897
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: Same question that Austin Poe's around Tamar Stewart. Have you

898
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: been able to watch much Demetrius Knight and Barrett Carter

899
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: and similar question, what's went wrong there?

900
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 10: I just keep going back to misstackles. I use the

901
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 10: word hyper a lot when I look at them and

902
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 10: their production and their performance as well. Like the Jets

903
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 10: kind of seemed to be egging the Bengals on with

904
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 10: all the pre snap motions that they were using. They

905
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 10: seemed to create a lot of pre snap confusion. And

906
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 10: then also they found some productivity out of the same

907
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 10: side tosses and outside runs where they forced the linebackers

908
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 10: to kind of get into that edge area, and of

909
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 10: course that works. And the most concerning part is how

910
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 10: the Bears then just took the game plans that really

911
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 10: the Jets in the Steelers did. They really just took

912
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 10: those concepts and quadrupled down on them, and the Bengals,

913
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 10: you know, failed to adjust over the course of the week.

914
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 10: The league makes you pay and you show you're susceptible

915
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 10: to something. And then Ben Jonson also added all these

916
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 10: trick plays knowing that the linebackers were so susceptible to

917
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 10: the eye candy, and they just kept taking the bait.

918
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 10: They keep taking the bait, and there's a lot of

919
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 10: work that needs to be done.

920
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: There is there any paths that they can improve on

921
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: any of that in the second half of the season.

922
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: Is there anything you've seen that leads you to believe

923
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: that it could get better?

924
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: Defensively, I went.

925
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 10: Through Barrett Carter's so I like the optimism idea in

926
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 10: the tone and so I haven't done this for Night yet.

927
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 10: I did go through Barret carter his tape looking for

928
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 10: positive plays, like, all right, what's their doing well right now?

929
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 10: And there are a couple of times where he is

930
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 10: right shooting through the gap. He's been a good delayed blitzer.

931
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 10: He's not finishing enough plays, but his ability to just

932
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 10: get from point A to point B and his range

933
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 10: is something to build on. And then Night we really

934
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 10: more saw it during the first half of the year

935
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 10: or the first quarter of the season, just his plays

936
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 10: and his instincts when he kind of gets targeted and

937
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 10: coverage and his ability to make plays on the ball

938
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 10: for an outside linebacker, that's something. But both have just

939
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 10: been bad for the last couple weeks, and there's so

940
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 10: much coaching and development that needs to be done during

941
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 10: the second half of the season.

942
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: What does the offense need to watch out for Charlie.

943
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: It's hard in the NFL to put up forty points

944
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: a game and you think at some point they're going

945
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: to slow down a little bit. What could aid in

946
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: the offense hitting a roadblock along the way outside of

947
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: just playing some really good competition coming up? Is there

948
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 3: anything you're watching for on offense that would allow them

949
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: to continue this success?

950
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 10: Well, the rookie guards have really more. Fairchild has shown

951
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 10: together some solid games. Rivers has done enough. But those

952
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 10: two guys are still going to be in the spotlight,

953
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 10: and those two guys have each had their share of

954
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 10: negative moments. I think the best case scenario for the

955
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 10: Bengals offense is you end the season righting those guys

956
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 10: as your starters for twenty twenty six. But that's far

957
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 10: from a sure thing with either of them right now.

958
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 10: Despite the positivity more from Fairchild that you've seen. I

959
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 10: caught up with him the other day. He kind of

960
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 10: echoed what we had heard from Dan Pitcher around week

961
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 10: four that he was playing a little hesitant, a little passive,

962
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 10: thinking too much and not just being physical early in

963
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 10: the season. He said, after he came back from that injury,

964
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 10: coming off of the Steelers game, that's when he really

965
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 10: felt a flip switch for him and started playing more

966
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 10: aggressively because of some things he was able to clean up.

967
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 10: But he has to continue to do that when the

968
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 10: massups get tougher and when teams continue to throw more

969
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 10: at him and throw at him things they haven't seen.

970
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,479
Speaker 10: And then Jalen Rivers has just had consistently some self

971
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 10: inflicted mistakes. Even though on the whole it's been positive,

972
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 10: he's been a part of some negative plays. So I'm

973
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 10: looking at those two guys. How the offense can get derailed,

974
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 10: especially with an immobile quarterback. Is that interior pressure? So

975
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 10: they've got to continue to develop.

976
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: What do you feel like the plan becomes now with

977
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson. They choose not to move him at the deadline,

978
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: they hold tre they hold with Trey Hendrickson. What do

979
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 3: you envision the future with Trey Hendrickson here in Cincinnati?

980
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: How does this play out?

981
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 10: I mean it would be bad business. I stand up

982
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 10: with him on a franchise tag next season, or they

983
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 10: kind of overpay for him in the offseason heading into

984
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 10: twenty twenty six because they feel like Dan up been

985
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 10: a spot where they just have no one else to pay.

986
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 10: That would be bad business because they could have just

987
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 10: saved themselves some money by you know, getting the deal

988
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 10: done earlier. But we you know, that's the tale as

989
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 10: old as time. With the Bengals. The value of Hendrickson

990
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 10: now is like, at least I would have traded him,

991
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 10: actually probably would have traded him and then kind of

992
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 10: flip those assets right away and tried to have gotten

993
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 10: a longer term contributor and kind of buy and sell.

994
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 10: But at least with Trey and now ideally you know,

995
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 10: I expect them to come back after the buy. You

996
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 10: do have a more fair chance to evaluate the coaches,

997
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 10: the linebackers, a Shamar Stewart who doesn't have to be

998
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 10: your number one, he can be your number two when

999
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 10: he's on the field on the edge like he does,

1000
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 10: give you a fair chance to evaluate everybody, and I

1001
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 10: guess that's worth something. What's the plan with Trey Henderson?

1002
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 10: I mean, we've been asking that for three years now

1003
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 10: and there's never been any clarity.

1004
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: What I'd thing.

1005
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 3: On offense We've talked about a little bit this week.

1006
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: Is there a scenario in which you can see Joe

1007
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 3: Flacco coming back to this team for next year, whether

1008
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: it be obviously a backup role, behind Joe Burrow, But

1009
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: I think there's such a value there and what he

1010
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 3: brings to the table and maybe how he can even

1011
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 3: help Joe and his continued development. Is there an avenue

1012
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 3: where you make that a priority?

1013
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 10: I wrote this the day that Burrow got hurt. And

1014
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 10: it's a very dark question, you know. So it's already

1015
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 10: a Bengals team that hasn't historically invested a ton in guard.

1016
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 10: Do you invest five million dollars into a guard who

1017
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 10: could be a starter or a backup quarterback? And it

1018
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 10: will show a lot about yourself, You the listener, you

1019
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 10: the decider. How you answer that question. Are you just

1020
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 10: resigned to the fact that Burrow will get hurt and

1021
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 10: you need a backup and you're that pessimistic about the

1022
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 10: outlook of Burrough's health that you are just almost expecting

1023
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 10: the worst to happen. That's fair, I understand if you're

1024
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 10: thinking that way having watched six years of Joe Burrow.

1025
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 10: Or do you say, you know what, cross your fingers

1026
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 10: and hope for the best with Burrow and get the

1027
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 10: best twenty twenty, get the best twenty two guys? Fear

1028
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 10: starting lineup the best eleven on offense, like I could

1029
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 10: understand if you were thinking either way, but that is

1030
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 10: a very existential question. Pay a guard or pay a

1031
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 10: backup quarterback.

1032
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 3: The bye week gives us an opportunity to talk a

1033
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 3: little Cincinnati Reads as well, You and I and Austin.

1034
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 3: We get to talk every Friday. Charlie, next time we

1035
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: talk a week from today, do you think there'll be

1036
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 3: a parade set for Kyle Schwarber being a Cincinnati Read.

1037
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 10: I wonder if kylee warbwill gets spotted at the Penwood Mall,

1038
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 10: but like just because he's from Cincinnati and that's a

1039
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 10: realistic place that he could be if he stops back home.

1040
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 10: I expect to RD have about twenty to twenty five

1041
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 10: million dollars total of payroll flexibility that ownership is given

1042
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 10: this front office this season, and I expect Sharb to

1043
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 10: get around thirty. So unless they are turning a paper

1044
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 10: clip into a into a boat this offseason by wheeling

1045
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 10: and dealing and maneuvering to open up all this sort

1046
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 10: of cap space while also filling like seven needs on

1047
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 10: the roster, I just don't see how that's possible.

1048
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: Now Schwarber is supposed to be here in a week

1049
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: or two for an event that he's doing. Do you

1050
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: think the Reds just like say, hey, do you want

1051
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: to talk? Just yeah, we're both here at the same time,

1052
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: or does Schwarber's agent just say all right, well, where

1053
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: are we going to start? And then that determines whether

1054
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: or not they even have a conversation.

1055
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 10: So how this works really is a lot of it's

1056
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 10: driven through the agents, especially at the initial part of

1057
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 10: the process. That's kind of the value of the GM meetings,

1058
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 10: which our next week in Las Vegas. You hear it

1059
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 10: every year. Man, you know, we started talking at the

1060
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 10: GM meetings. You meet with all the agents, you meet

1061
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 10: with all the teams, and you kind of you know,

1062
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 10: I don't know who Shorebird's agent is specifically that I

1063
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 10: would assume that he represents a couple other free agents

1064
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 10: that maybe the Reds would be interested in. So I

1065
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 10: can see a conversation having there about a bunch of

1066
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 10: guys and Shoreber's name comes up and something like that.

1067
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 10: But no, I don't expect Kyle to be read in

1068
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 10: twenty twenty six, but maybe some conversations around the league

1069
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 10: with the Reds open up next week.

1070
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 3: Charlie dive in just for a moment, if you will,

1071
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: the roster and where it is now. You mentioned the

1072
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: roster spots available, you mentioned the money to spend. How

1073
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: do you view strengths weaknesses of where this roster is

1074
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: right now and where it needs to go.

1075
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 10: Well, we're like five years into looking for a way

1076
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 10: to get the red the better back, and that's something

1077
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 10: that's something they need. But you look at or like

1078
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 10: the real needs, like the things they need to field

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Speaker 10: a tomb are a fewer leavers, especially a left hander,

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Speaker 10: someone who can kind of cover the backup infield spots.

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00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 10: They need someone also who can at least be a

1082
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 10: platoon piece in the lineup against right or excuse me,

1083
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 10: against left handed pitching. Like, yes, they need another bat,

1084
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 10: but to feel the team, they need all of those things.

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00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 10: And they only have twenty to twenty five million dollars

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00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 10: to work with, you know, And with that they've got

1087
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 10: to replace their closer, their Swiss Army Knights and Nick Martinez.

1088
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 10: They're losing Austin Hayes and Miguel on Duhar who were

1089
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 10: presences in the middle of their lineup at a nice

1090
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 10: value last year, and then Barlow and Suitor are are

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 10: are free agents. So there's just so much work that

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00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 10: have to get done that to just feel the team,

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00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 10: you can't go out and get the best bat available.

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00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 10: You have to be created. You have to find value.

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00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 10: So could that value be at first base with like

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00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 10: an o'hear with the Hoskins. Could that value be kind

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00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 10: of a platoon outfield piece like a mike Y Shtremsky

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00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 10: or Elaine Thomas like that might be the best the

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00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 10: Reds can do with how much work they have to do.

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Speaker 2: I saw it. It was interesting as well that Francona,

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Speaker 2: when he was on the hot stove, really kept hammering

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Speaker 2: home the point about depth and guys getting hurt and

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Speaker 2: guys having maybe to play a little bit too much.

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Speaker 2: Do you expect there to be a decent chunk of

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Speaker 2: that money going towards the depth and just having guys

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Speaker 2: that they can turn to comfortably, because we've mentioned in

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Speaker 2: the past and maybe the minor league system's a little

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Speaker 2: bit thin at least for now, do you expect depth

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Speaker 2: signings to be a big part of the offseason.

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Speaker 10: So I have I'm looking at the roster now nine

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Speaker 10: guys he were regulars in the lineup to end last season.

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Speaker 10: Freedo Marte Luxteer, Ellie Stevenson, Stuart mclaan Hayes. Now, Stuart,

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Speaker 10: wi's technically be competing for a spot, but we all

1114
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Speaker 10: like sal And then you have Will Benson, who his

1115
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Speaker 10: role is a conversation that will have another day and

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Speaker 10: what his role was in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: You do a podcast on that.

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Speaker 10: Benson. Is he a guy competing for a spot? Benson?

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Speaker 10: Is he a guy who's a regular in this lineup? Well,

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Speaker 10: and then throw a Stewart in there as well. Well,

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Speaker 10: that depends on how many guys you add. Do you

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Speaker 10: add one guy for fifteen million dollars or if you're

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Speaker 10: prioritizing depth, well, that looks more like prioritizing getting two, three,

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Speaker 10: four guys to build that depth. You're probably not getting

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Speaker 10: that from the minor league now. Hector Rodriguez, I keep

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Speaker 10: saying his name. We need to know he'll be a

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Speaker 10: big part of next year's Red, But the rest of

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Speaker 10: their depths right now looks like cees. You know, I'm

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Speaker 10: not expecting him to be a factor next season. Tyler

1130
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 10: Callahan coming off major injuries. Blake Done. He shout out

1131
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 10: to Blake Done for the way he finished last year,

1132
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 10: but he still got a ton to prove, rEFInd a

1133
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 10: huge mystery box. It's not like there's this wave coming

1134
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 10: outside effector so if depth is the plan, that would

1135
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 10: look like two to three kind of bench platoon, fill

1136
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 10: in the gaps pieces being their plan on the position

1137
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 10: player side.

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01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: Off the wall question here, but the Colorado Rockies hired

1139
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: Paul D. Podesta away from the Cleveland Browns. What did

1140
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: you make of And not that you are fully versed

1141
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 2: in this, but what did you make of Paul D.

1142
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: Podesta with the Browns and what could he be doing

1143
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: with the Rockies.

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Speaker 10: There's a general theme here that I really think is

1145
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 10: fascinating and we can talk again about like, yeah, Terry Francona,

1146
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 10: congratulations manager year finalists. Of course, we also talk about

1147
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 10: decisions that we like and don't like with Franktona and

1148
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 10: all that stuff. But Francona is a good, solid manager

1149
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 10: who's accomplished a lot in the league. Look at the

1150
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 10: hires that were made this year. You know you're toning

1151
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 10: the teller on the manager side. It's coming from Tennessee.

1152
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 10: Craig Stammon or a lever with no managing our coach

1153
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 10: of experience, Kurt Suzuki.

1154
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: In La Like Boy.

1155
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Speaker 10: The red must be glad that they were shopping on

1156
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 10: the manager market last year as opposed to this year,

1157
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 10: because last year was just the Reds, the Marlin, the

1158
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 10: White Sox, the Threads were by far the most enticing,

1159
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 10: attractive job and they got the best guy available in

1160
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 10: Terry Francona. This year, both on the on the front

1161
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 10: office and on the manager side, due to some you know,

1162
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 10: some some changing factors in baseball and so many openings

1163
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 10: going on, you saw a lot of off the wall

1164
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 10: hires where there's a ton of risk, and those will

1165
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 10: be fascinating stories in baseball. But the Reds really did

1166
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 10: kind of get lucky with their timing in Francona that

1167
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 10: they didn't have to be shopping for, you know, lead

1168
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 10: decision makers when the market was so poor and so diluted.

1169
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 10: You know, the Reds weren't a good spot to be

1170
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 10: able to do that last year. Because this year you're

1171
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 10: seeing some guys get hired and you're like, what the

1172
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 10: heck happened here?

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Speaker 2: Last question, with the potential lockout looming in twenty twenty seven,

1174
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: do you think that affects decisions in this offseason, especially

1175
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: from a financial standpoint.

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Speaker 10: I think it should. I think you go all in.

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 10: And this is just me speculated, like I'm Nick call

1178
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 10: what I do. And Nick has never indicated that his

1179
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 10: plan is to go all in. He uses the word

1180
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 10: sustainability long you build them within all that. What I

1181
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 10: do is I push real chips in for twenty twenty six,

1182
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 10: see what happens in twenty twenty seven, and see how

1183
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 10: your roster looks, and as soon as the wheels fall out,

1184
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 10: trade from the top of your roster and restock the

1185
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 10: roster that way. But at least in that case you

1186
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 10: get a real chance to make a run, and you

1187
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 10: do have some valuable pieces who can catch you some

1188
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 10: stuff in return in twenty seven and twenty eight to

1189
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 10: kind of rebuild for twenty twenty nine or twenty or

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01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 10: twenty thirty. But that's me, that's not them. Yes, the

1191
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 10: lockout is the looming thing that creates some fear from

1192
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 10: a payroll perspective, what you'll have to work with, and

1193
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 10: that will probably that's kind of a talk of baseball

1194
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 10: right now, is how that impacts planning going forward.

1195
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Speaker 3: Charlie, before we let you go, we mentioned positivity, make

1196
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 3: me feel better that last week for the Bearcats was

1197
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 3: just a bad game against Utah and that this team

1198
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 3: can win out and play for a big twelve championship.

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Speaker 10: I feel very confident about the growth and development development

1200
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 10: of Brendan Towresby. Last year, what you saw was a

1201
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 10: very negative arrow. Once teams figured them out, once teams

1202
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 10: kind of took away the underneath game, he wasn't able

1203
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 10: to be too deep. I feel much more confident about

1204
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 10: his ability to make adjustments and about his ability to

1205
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 10: be constant when things aren't going his way. I'll feel

1206
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 10: very positive about the difference in just who he is

1207
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 10: as a quarterback compared to last season. So you know,

1208
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 10: he played poorly against you saw that was a big

1209
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 10: part of that game. Special teams played poorly as well.

1210
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 10: But I like this quarterback and I like the star

1211
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 10: power on this team. As soon as they can just

1212
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 10: become more consistent against the run, they'll be on a

1213
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 10: better path.

1214
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 3: Charlie, you're never on a bye week, So for those listening,

1215
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 3: what's the easiest way they can follow along with all

1216
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 3: your work?

1217
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 10: Charlie Shockboard on Fox nineteen, We've got a We're not

1218
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 10: on a buy week. You know it's very convenient. In

1219
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 10: fifty MLP off season opened up right, But the Bengals

1220
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 10: are off and we've got some fun baseball stories and

1221
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 10: the works, and then we'll be back at tacoor next week.

1222
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Speaker 3: You're the best Charlie heads during weekend. We'll talk to

1223
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 3: you again next week. Hey, guys, that's Charlie Goldsmith. That

1224
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 3: is a time that I value a great deal. Every

1225
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 3: Friday my favorite twenty five minutes of the week. I

1226
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 3: just enjoy talking to Charlie and picking his brain so much.

1227
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 3: We'll get to pick Tom Gallairder's brain at two o'clock.

1228
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 3: Austin and I will peel back what we're thinking in

1229
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 3: our brains with our pick him segment. But for now,

1230
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: your talkbacks are next on the Home of the Bengals

1231
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1232
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Speaker 9: Now your chance to win a thousand don for tuckbacks.

1233
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 18: Go and grab your phone and record a message.

1234
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: Just hit that microphone. Please keep it clean and don't

1235
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: be mean.

1236
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 10: And those cool sprinkle.

1237
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 4: Drip drip drips.

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Speaker 2: It's a time for tuk backs.

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Speaker 16: It's suck favorite party since e three sixty. So Austin

1240
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 16: Buddy played those Talkbacks on your screen, and please dright

1241
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 16: now to sabotage it.

1242
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: Man, it's just something. It call it the holiday season.

1243
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 3: Just the upbeat nature of that lead in from former

1244
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 3: President Ronald Reagan is fantastic. Thanks to Cincy Shirts our

1245
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Speaker 3: number two. These are your Friday edition of.

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Speaker 19: Talkbacks Dangles forty two, Bye Week forty five. Oh, just

1247
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 19: giving my prognostication, it's the Lord.

1248
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 2: Thanks now, energy, How are we here? How now?

1249
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 20: The Dolphins sure pub a fight last night against our Muskies,

1250
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 20: but we sliced them and diced them and turned them

1251
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 20: into tuna fish. I also heard through my sources that's

1252
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 20: Tony Pike's nickname tuna breath.

1253
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: Oh ah crazy.

1254
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 20: And now the Cats face a daunting powerhouse and the

1255
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 20: Georgia State Panthers.

1256
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 2: I can't wait. Tony can't have bad breath because all

1257
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: he eats his chicken tenders and mac and cheese and

1258
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: now chewing gum. Hello is this home?

1259
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 20: Hello, mister conen Ham. It's great to talk to you.

1260
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 20: You are a great American, unlike those guys down the hallway.

1261
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 20: They're not great Americans. Austin Gilmour and Tony pick I

1262
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 20: don't don't care. For those two to the first time

1263
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 20: last time.

1264
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 21: So you know, I hear you doing these ads for

1265
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 21: a wind Shoolers, and you.

1266
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: Know, I mean, maybe you.

1267
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 21: Gotta you know, maybe you think outa instead of just

1268
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 21: doing those, maybe do some recipes or something. And I mean,

1269
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 21: you got you got your bacon, your cheddy, your your

1270
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 21: pepper you know, maybe maybe maybe put put it into lasagna.

1271
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: You know, you could do a collab.

1272
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 21: Does a kid say with the Holtmans where you you

1273
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 21: suck out the Boston cream and you spit in some

1274
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 21: pepper jack?

1275
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 2: What about that? Thank you? Stop the fight, just stop

1276
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: building it. Oh my god, oh first time, last time?

1277
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: He said, Oh my god, hell hello, this is a

1278
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 2: le Roy.

1279
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 20: I accidentally talked back to the wrong place I was

1280
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 20: trying to reach mister Canham.

1281
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get it. Thanks Bingles.

1282
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 15: Bye week, give me the bye week thirty five Bengals

1283
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 15: twenty eight.

1284
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: That's right, I got the Bengals seven point home dogs

1285
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: during a bye wine.

1286
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 10: Good week.

1287
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,879
Speaker 2: Everybody talk to you later, pimps. Whoa whoa dude, whoa

1288
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: whoa take it easy man? Gets slow? Bye week.

1289
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 22: I guess they should start saying my name at the

1290
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 22: beginning of times I've noticed even a long timer say

1291
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 22: their name at the beginning, and even though they.

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Speaker 2: Know we all know who they are.

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Speaker 22: Hey, Jim and Milford, have you noticed Evan McPherson has

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 22: been quiet this year, just quietly.

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01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: Doing his thing.

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Speaker 22: I think it's because he and had a game winning

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 22: field goals or something.

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Speaker 2: I had one three weeks ago.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, Hi, guys, Happy Friday. Join the show. Hey, I'm

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01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 23: not a soccer fan, mainly because I don't know enough

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01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 23: about the game, but it sure does look like fun.

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 23: I except I would never play it. I can't stand

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 23: to be hitting the shins or the knee. Oh my gosh,

1304
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 23: it just makes me want to barf. Anyway, I wish

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 23: all this FC soccer fans out there good luck this weekend.

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01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 23: Hell is real, and I hope FC Cincinnati comes out

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01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 23: on top. Alright, guys, have a good.

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Speaker 3: Tommy g coming up at two o'clock. By the way,

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01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 3: Evan McPherson, it's only three misses on the ear all

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 3: from fifty out. He's yet to make a field goal

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01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 3: over fifty Oh so he hasn't made a single one

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 3: over No, he's over three on over fifty attempts in

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01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 3: tristy yard attempts Lynn.

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Speaker 2: You should go to the game. You will have a

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01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: new appreciation for soccer.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 6: So Moe does a ad for share Fax Bank where

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01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 6: they're giving keys to treasure chests for kids. Tony, did

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 6: you ever go to johnny.

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01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 24: When you're a kid?

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 6: And I did have a key for the old Castle?

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 2: That is the best man.

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01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 10: I know.

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 6: Austin probably didn't because he's not from this area, but

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01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 6: that was always awesome to do.

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Speaker 2: Love Love Love Johnny's Toys flameless to me. You get

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01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 2: a key and then you get your toy store your birthday.

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01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: At Johnny's Toys, there's like an extra room, like a

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01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 3: little castle, and on your birthday they'll give you a

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 3: key and you get to use the key, open the

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01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 3: door and go in there and you essentially get to

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01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 3: pick out something for your birthday. Oh, they just give

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01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 3: it to you. That's pretty really really cool man.

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Speaker 2: It is uh.

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Speaker 3: I did it when I was a kid, and I

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01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: believe was it last year of the year before my

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01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 3: aunt took Wilder on his birthday as well.

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01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: It's really cool. Yeah, I need to share it. Tony's

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01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 2: good friend brother.

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Speaker 25: I thought that bestally yesterday, but I guess I didn't,

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01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 25: but the Bangles right now need to part ways with

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01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 25: Battle Britt and Brown. If it can't tackle and block

1343
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 25: at this level of competition nowadays, you need to go,

1344
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,959
Speaker 25: just my opinion, go where.

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Speaker 2: It's good to hear from your brother.

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Speaker 26: Hey, guys, Jeff and New Richmond, Happy Friday. I hope

1347
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 26: you guys have a great weekend coming up. As far

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01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 26: as Wisconsin and Luke Fickle, who's to say that the

1349
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 26: athletic directors not on the hot seat and if they

1350
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 26: fire him, maybe they'll just get rid of Fickle. Anyway,

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01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 26: as far as FC Cincinnati goes, I would say Pat

1352
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 26: Noonan's on the hot seat if he doesn't advance these

1353
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 26: guys this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts well based off the history of FC Cincinnati.

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01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 2: I mean, they've had a bunch of coaches really in

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01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: ten years. I don't think that's crazy to say. I

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01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: personally would not feel that way.

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Speaker 18: Man.

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Speaker 2: If it was a loss though at Columbus, Man, that

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01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: would be it would be tough. Yeah, I think there would.

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01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 2: I'm sure there would be thoughts and conversations at Guys.

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01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 27: Were talking earlier about the Indianapolis Colts owner and how

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 27: much respect you have for her and I know it's

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01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 27: pretty hard to predict in the future, but what's your

1365
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 27: opinion on what do you think Katie Blackburn's going to

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 27: do when she takes charge of the team. Do you

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01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 27: think that she's going to be like her old man

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01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 27: or do you think you're hoping that she is like

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01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 27: the owner of the Colts and just fixing everything.

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Speaker 2: It says you want this, you got it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know Katie, but what I've seen and heard

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Speaker 3: around her, I think she'll crush it.

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01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would share that opinion. I

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01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: want to know how involved she would be in football,

1375
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: because Mike is still involved in football. He is involved

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: in the roster, in who goes where, and blah blah blah,

1377
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: blah blah. He signs off on everything. Katie, I don't

1378
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 2: know if she would do that. That's my biggest thing

1379
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: is like how involved is she in football? And maybe

1380
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: most notably, what then does Elizabeth and Caroline take in

1381
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: that situation? How do their roles expands? It's one of

1382
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 2: the most fascinating questions about this franchise.

1383
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 17: I think this three first round picks for Burrough nonsense

1384
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 17: is the biggest load of crap that I've ever heard

1385
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 17: in news surrounding Joe Burrow in the national media.

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01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: The Browns and.

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Speaker 17: Blackburn's would never consider trading Joe Burrow, at least not

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01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 17: at this point in his career. He has been their

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 17: meal ticket to any success that they've had in the

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01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 17: last thirty to thirty five years. No chance in hell.

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Speaker 17: Plus they would blow all three of those picks.

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Speaker 2: We all know it.

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 15: I don't think it's crazy from a Bengals perspective to

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01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 15: trade Burrow on the old man.

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Speaker 27: Low key when the last time we played a full.

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Speaker 12: Healthy season last year.

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Speaker 26: I think the Jets would be the dumb ones in

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Speaker 26: this situation.

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Speaker 2: Those five first round picks, that's five.

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01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,480
Speaker 20: People trying to plug in and play in three or five.

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01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: And they're really good.

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: That's pretty successful people that.

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01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 13: You don't got to pay.

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01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 26: But if the Bengals can use those five first rounders,

1405
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 26: and I'm sure some other stuff.

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01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 13: They would get, I think that would successfully.

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01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 12: Set them up, especially we got the drafting on quarterback.

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01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 3: Was that Garrett from Lexington? No Oh, I thought I

1409
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: was a guy that was calling out close enough pretty similar. Uh,

1410
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: just two years ago, Woody Johnson's grandsons were making football

1411
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 3: decisions based off of Madden ratings for the Jets. If

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01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 3: you want to talk about an organization that is so

1413
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 3: screwed up, the Jets are one of the worst run

1414
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 3: organizations in sports. This is the taj Mahall compared to

1415
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 3: the Jets, and Joe Burrow knows that.

1416
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Speaker 17: And with FC Cincinnati obviously a must win situation tomorrow

1417
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 17: night West, then hot take. I think Pat Noonan might

1418
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 17: just be playing for his job. Wow, you know, he's

1419
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 17: had all this regular season success, so what does he

1420
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 17: have to show in the postseason aside from that one

1421
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 17: run to the Eastern Conference Finals a few years ago.

1422
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 2: Not a whole lot.

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01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 17: And he's wasting hell of a lot of talent, especially

1424
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 17: on the offensive end. Kind of like a Tom Win

1425
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 17: situation in Pittsburgh, but without any championships to show for.

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01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe this is as maybe I'm behind on this.

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01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 28: All right, This Joe Burrow conversation is so silly. I

1428
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 28: had to go back and look it up a little bit.

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01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,520
Speaker 28: In recent years, the Browns, remember that three first rounders,

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01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 28: a third and a fourth to the Texans for Deshaun Watson.

1431
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 28: How'd that work out? The Broncos sent two first rounders,

1432
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 28: no offense, Shelby Harris Andrew Locke to the Seahawks for

1433
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 28: Russell Wilson.

1434
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that didn't work.

1435
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 28: Now one that did, rams two first rounders and Jared

1436
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 28: Goff to the Lions. Uh for Stafford that on?

1437
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: That one worked worked for both? Yeah?

1438
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 18: Hello, this is former president Ronald Reagan and oh yell,

1439
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 18: I wouldn't trust the Bengals with five first round draft

1440
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 18: picks for Burrow. Heck, I wouldn't trust the Bengals with

1441
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 18: five first round draft picks for Cam Taylor Britt Oh

1442
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 18: my gosh, I wouldn't trust the Bengals with five first

1443
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 18: round draft picks in one year.

1444
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Great point.

1445
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 29: Yeah, the Joe Burrow conversation is very interesting, but in

1446
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 29: reality it would never happen. The Bengans would probably just

1447
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 29: help holding hostage if it came down to it. But

1448
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,839
Speaker 29: if you put yourself in Burrow's shoes and you're a smart,

1449
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 29: confident personal common sense, there is no way that you

1450
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 29: can say with a straight face that's staying with the

1451
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 29: Bengals is the best decision for your career if you

1452
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 29: truly want to win. There's a reason the rest of

1453
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 29: the league looks at the Bengals is a loser in

1454
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 29: competent franchise. They've only won a playoff game in five

1455
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 29: seasons out of their fifty eight.

1456
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 30: Eight fellasm and you know, I want to talk to

1457
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 30: you about patterns, particularly with the Bengals. It's be good

1458
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 30: for two three years and then stink for twenty years.

1459
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 10: Like clockwork.

1460
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 30: They missed their window with Burrow.

1461
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 25: It's done.

1462
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm too old for this crap.

1463
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 2: I'm done with the Bengals. I am done.

1464
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 10: If I'm gonna.

1465
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 30: Watch an NFL game, it's gonna be up the road

1466
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 30: in Indianapolis.

1467
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 3: Go Colts.

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01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy, see you.

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01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 31: Man, Tody Austin George from v Town. Hey, that last

1470
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 31: fourteen minutes of my life was completely wasted a bout

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01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 31: you guys talking about trading Joe Burrow. That's the dumbest

1472
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 31: ring any of us have ever heard. That's never happening.

1473
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 31: And you know it, I know it, and it's I

1474
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 31: know you know it's why are you talking about it?

1475
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: I mean, talk about everybody?

1476
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:38,799
Speaker 13: How about them boys?

1477
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 31: We're about the We're about to win Saturday.

1478
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be at the bailey.

1479
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 31: Uh. Also the Bengals need to get rid of Duke Toobin.

1480
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 13: That's out of mind.

1481
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how they even keep that ar out anymore.

1482
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 3: It's got one. That was something that was brought up

1483
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 3: that we brought to light.

1484
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: Two.

1485
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to Tom Glender in just a few

1486
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 3: minutes to talk f C Cincinnati and hell is real.

1487
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 3: It's a bye week, it's a Friday, let's go. It's raisy.

1488
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: Comprehension has never been a strong suit of Georgia's credit.

1489
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 24: It sucks to say out loud, it sucks to hear it,

1490
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 24: it sucks to come to grips with it, especially if

1491
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 24: you're at Bengals finn But this historically is a bottom

1492
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,759
Speaker 24: five organization franchise in the NFL.

1493
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 2: And there's one reason for that.

1494
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 24: And this is an overused statement, but it's true.

1495
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 2: I mean it just it is what it is. It's

1496
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 2: the ownership.

1497
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 24: This team will never truly reach its potential under this

1498
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 24: current ownership. Kind of like the Cowboys with Jerry Jones,

1499
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 24: but at least he's got flair and you know, and

1500
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 24: they're worth a lot of money.

1501
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 2: With the Bengals, what do you.

1502
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 13: Got, hey, guys?

1503
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 2: Markers from the Grove, he got a question for you guys.

1504
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 32: So in the NFL, people like to bring up the

1505
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 32: division record. Why is that so important in the NFL

1506
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 32: to be two and oh or five and oh, five

1507
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 32: and one in the division, when, in all honesty, the

1508
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 32: vision record has nothing to do with what we do

1509
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 32: in the division, unlike college with the SEC or the

1510
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 32: Big twelve.

1511
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 2: It's just kind of curious, Awstin, do you want to

1512
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 2: handle that one? The way I view it is, if

1513
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: you can go four and two, five and one, six

1514
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 2: and zero in your division, you're probably going to win

1515
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 2: that division, and that guarantees a home playoff game. Now,

1516
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: it's not all, it's not right, it's not always the case,

1517
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: but typically it's the start. If you do that, start

1518
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 2: with your division. Marvin Lewis always used to say, we

1519
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 2: want to win the AFC North, we want to be

1520
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 2: undefeated at home, and we want to be world champions.

1521
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: So if you start with the AFC North, that's three

1522
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 2: home wins right there, three road wins, that's six. Let's

1523
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 2: just put you in a spot to Yeah, to make

1524
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 2: it attainable and being able to battle through those teams

1525
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: I think is just really important. Now THEFC North. This

1526
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 2: year is maybe not what we thought it would be,

1527
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: but that's always been my mentality. I don't know that

1528
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: there's a specific, you know thing.

1529
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 33: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is beabus. Yeah, I heard earlier

1530
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 33: that the Bengals would lose the rest of the year.

1531
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 33: Does that include the bye week, Tony, I'm a big

1532
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 33: TP fan.

1533
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sounds like Bill Cunningham.

1534
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 34: Hey, guys, I was pondering a thought about the.

1535
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: Bengals and there, oh right, that was your thought. Hey, guys,

1536
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 2: call from Cleaves here. I was pondering a thought.

1537
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 34: You know, the one thing that I think about all

1538
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 34: the time if you look back through you know, the

1539
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 34: last thirty years of the Bengals. Okay, they've always had

1540
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 34: two really good receivers, a good quarterback and everything else.

1541
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 34: Because offense sells tickets. The only thing really people look

1542
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 34: at it on the defensive side of the ball with sacks,

1543
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 34: and that's the reason why we're at one.

1544
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: I had some really great defensive ends here over the years,

1545
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 2: Justin Smith and Carlos Dunlap. Do you know Atkins had

1546
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: a bunch of sacks man, Carlos Dunlap, I mean, what

1547
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: a time and a lot of great ones over the years.

1548
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 2: What a time, Happy bye week everybody. This just in

1549
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 2: Chicago scores again? Who day?

1550
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,799
Speaker 35: The Bengals don't want all those first round draft picks.

1551
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 35: The old man would have a heart attack for sure

1552
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 35: when they all when all the contracts come to do

1553
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 35: at the same time. No, they much rather have a

1554
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 35: bunch of fifth, sixth, and seventh round picks. That way

1555
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 35: they can keep them on the cheap.

1556
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1557
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a thing like if I were

1558
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 2: the Bengals listening to this, if I were Mike and

1559
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: Katie and Dukentroy, it would infuriate me to no end

1560
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 2: that this is what people think about me, the perception,

1561
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that I always come back to

1562
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 2: is like it would drive me nuts. What me it?

1563
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 2: I would not be able to sleep. I would do

1564
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 2: everything I could to change that narrative.

1565
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 14: Jordan battle for new recycled bins at pay Corps in

1566
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 14: the offseason.

1567
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: Who says, No, are.

1568
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 3: The recycling bins a problem? Can they tackle? I guess

1569
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 3: they both have the same time.

1570
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 2: What do you want to worry about?

1571
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 3: The bye week has some of the best players in

1572
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 3: space that you'll see on a team. If you thought

1573
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 3: the tackling was an issue. Wait till Sunday. Oh boy, Yeah,

1574
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 3: let's see what the bye week's got. Yeah, all right,

1575
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 3: we're done. All right, let's take a break. What we

1576
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 3: got one or two segments coming back? You tell me

1577
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 3: we're gonna have two.

1578
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, We're gonna have one segment, one segment,

1579
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 2: and then.

1580
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 3: We'll get the Tom Gallander all coming up next to

1581
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 3: the ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to Cincy Shirts.

1582
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 4: In the NATTI. Unt you and part by Bud Light

1583
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 4: and by Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen point thirty, the

1584
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 4: official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1585
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back football in the NATI. Finishing up

1586
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,919
Speaker 3: hour number two, Tom Gallaider, we'll talk f C Cincinnati.

1587
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: He's the voice of f C Cincinnati. He'll join us

1588
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 3: to kick off our number three. Austin and I also

1589
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 3: going to make our picks. We have quick hits all

1590
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 3: coming up in the next hour. But before we get there,

1591
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 3: we kind of alluded to this with Charlie Paul de Podesta.

1592
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 2: Austin, Yeah, has been.

1593
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 3: Hired by the Colorado Rockies to run their baseball ops

1594
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 3: and he's moving on from the Browns two, Part one,

1595
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the transition of going sport to sport?

1596
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 3: How different going from football to baseball is this?

1597
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 2: And two? Paul was made famous because of Moneyball? Correct?

1598
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 2: Where does moneyball ring?

1599
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 12: You know?

1600
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 2: He worked with Nick Crawl back in those days where

1601
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: Oakland Athletics. Where does Moneyball rank for you? In sports movies?

1602
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: One of the all time best? Oh, like, it's top

1603
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: it's probably top five. Wow? Yeah, I mean that is

1604
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: an elite movie. Okay, you can watch anytime. It's got

1605
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 2: that soundtracked, the Mighty River Grand or whatever that song's called.

1606
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: It just takes you back to a moment and can

1607
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: transform any moment to something more meaningful. Brad Pitt's awesome

1608
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 2: in that movie is Billy Bean by the way, You

1609
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 2: know it's he's at least going back to a sport

1610
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 2: where he has some pelts on the wall. He did

1611
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 2: have some success in baseball, now not a lot. He

1612
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 2: was the GM of the Dodgers for like twenty months

1613
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: before he got fired. He did have the whole moneyball

1614
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: thing in that run. But he's now forever known as

1615
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 2: the guy who brought in Andrew Berry to run the Browns,

1616
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: who brought in Kevin Stefanski and who signed off on

1617
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 2: it and helped facilitate the Deshaun Watson trade. And so

1618
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 2: I think a lot of Browns fans are thinking to themselves, Okay, well,

1619
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 2: maybe we're better off without Paul de Podesta, who still,

1620
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 2: by the way, lived in California and would either work

1621
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 2: remotely or sometimes travel to Cleveland. But he wasn't around

1622
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: a ton and there was still a lot of like

1623
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 2: ambiguity around what exactly he did and what his role

1624
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: was and on the day to day. But I think

1625
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 2: a lot of Browns fans wonder now two things. Number One,

1626
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: are we better off without him being around and having

1627
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 2: the ear of the haslms? And number two, what does

1628
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 2: this now mean for Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski. If

1629
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 2: you remember a couple of weeks ago Andrew Berry was

1630
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 2: supposed to have it might have been last week, he

1631
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: was supposed to have his press conference around the trade deadline.

1632
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 2: And to Andrew Berry's credit, he actually gets up and

1633
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 2: speaks to the media and answers for the decisions that

1634
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 2: he makes. That's noteworthy. But this time he didn't. That

1635
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: press conference was mysteriously canceled. I wonder why now we

1636
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on in Andrew Berry's life. Could

1637
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 2: have been something personal, could have been something professional. But

1638
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. Kevin Stefanski has also given up

1639
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 2: play calling for the second time in count them two years. Wow,

1640
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: So two years, two times, Kevin Stefanski has given up

1641
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: play calling. I just wonder what the future of the

1642
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 2: Browns is with Paul de Podesta out of the equation. Yep.

1643
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 2: And when it comes to the Colorado Rockies, if you

1644
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 2: want to talk about a dumpster fire, people still show

1645
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: up out there, man, they do. And that's to the

1646
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: credit of Dick Montfort, the owner of the Rockies. He's

1647
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: done a marvelous job of making that a destination place,

1648
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: building up the area around the ballpark like all of it.

1649
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 2: And you know it's I always like to go and

1650
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,799
Speaker 2: look at what Woody Page, the former Denver Post columnist,

1651
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: has to say about the Rocky He calls them the

1652
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: rocks Bottoms. He says, the rocks Bottoms dumpster fire of

1653
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: a franchise. Won't have a GM at GM meetings, they

1654
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 2: don't have a President of Baseball Operations, GM manager, coaching staff.

1655
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 2: Close you're on Chris Bryant, any kind of plan moving

1656
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 2: forward and no for sale sign. The worst team in

1657
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: baseball has nothing but the Monforts. Oh now, so like

1658
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 2: forty five minutes later they hired Paul de Podesta. But

1659
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: I mean that is just a train wreck of an organization.

1660
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 3: I do have to ask you mentioned top five sport

1661
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 3: movie of all time? Yeah, now, I know you're not

1662
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 3: privy to movies, so you probably haven't seen a ton

1663
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 3: of sports movies.

1664
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 2: But Rocky, it's fine. I had News Bears, Caddy Shack.

1665
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 2: Remember the Titans is up there, Raging Bull, Remember the Titans? Yeah, okay, Field.

1666
01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 3: Of Dreams, Friday Night Lights, Field of Dreams. White men

1667
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 3: can't jump Hoosiers? Where where do you put Happy Gilmour

1668
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 3: on there? Right up there?

1669
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: Okay? I mean, have you named five movies better than Moneyball?

1670
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 3: I think Moneyballs maybe like number ten any given Sunday, phenomenal,

1671
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 3: Rudy's probably number eleven. Rudy is a documentary, miracle is awesome,

1672
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 3: ten Cup and ten Cup. I can't put Moneyball on

1673
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 3: my top five.

1674
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you can't.

1675
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 3: I can get him in the top ten. That's what

1676
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 3: about Bull Durham, That's right, Bull's up there. I mean,

1677
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 3: that's just these are all good movies. None of them

1678
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:46,440
Speaker 3: are Moneyball. Oh no, oh no, Friday Night Lights. Oh

1679
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 3: you've seen all these No, that's what I was gonna

1680
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 3: say this, stop right now, Stop right now.

1681
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 2: There's no saying. So here's my I think you can

1682
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: even say. I think you'd even say Moneyball transcends the

1683
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 2: sports genre. It's beyond just sports. Here's the thing.

1684
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 3: You've seen five sports movies ever, so yes, out of

1685
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 3: the five movies you've seen, Moneyball is probably in the

1686
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 3: top five.

1687
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 2: So I just put in top sports movies of all

1688
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 2: time on the Google machine. Okay, where's Moneyball Land? And

1689
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: if you if you click on so, Moneyball's on there.

1690
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 2: Remember the Titans is on there. I've seen that Rockies

1691
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 2: on there. I've seen that Dodgeball's on there. Does that count?

1692
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 2: Dodgeball's a sports A great movie. Okay, great movie. I've

1693
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 2: seen that Coach Carter. Awesome movie. I've seen that. No,

1694
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. You've got to be kidding me. What

1695
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 2: about air Bud? Is he in the conversation? I've seen

1696
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 2: multiple air buds? Did you? I didn't know?

1697
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,839
Speaker 3: What about the Mighty Ducks. Absolutely. I like, what about Miracle?

1698
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

1699
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know until I started having kids that it's

1700
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 3: just not air bud. There's a baseball bud, soccer bude everything.

1701
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 2: What about Space Jam, the original space I only watched

1702
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 2: the original Space Jam probably seven hundred times. I had

1703
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 2: This is no joke. I had the soundtrack, the CD

1704
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 2: of the soundtrack in my car growing up. I thought

1705
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 2: you were going to say right now, but I still

1706
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 2: have it somewhere. Let's go, I mean, do do is

1707
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 2: back before we all hated R Kelly, Terrence still loves

1708
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 2: r Kelly really yeah, you know, he come in He's

1709
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 2: always talking about r Kelly this, r Kelly that, and like,

1710
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 2: I get it, that's your guy. But like, at some

1711
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 2: point don't you want to like publicly distance yourself from

1712
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 2: R Kelly. I mean, Diddy might have a bop out there,

1713
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 2: but I'm not talking about how much I love Diddy's music.

1714
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 2: That Trapped in the Closet series was just insanity. You know,

1715
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 2: when they did the Quarterback series on Netflix with Joe Burrow,

1716
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 2: they didn't show like half of the songs he actually played.

1717
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 2: Do you know why on his piano? You know why? No,

1718
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 2: because they were Kanye West songs. Oh. Netflix is like, nah, man,

1719
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 2: we don't want anything to do with Kanye School Kanye

1720
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 2: was so good. Oh yeah, I mean, no doubt about it.

1721
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 2: But people aren't over there saying gosh, Kanye love Kanye. Yeah,

1722
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You know, it's just just

1723
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 2: concerning behavior from terran. Some would say loyal to a

1724
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 2: fault perhaps, Yeah, some would say that these movies can

1725
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 2: transcend time.

1726
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,839
Speaker 3: I think you can make an argument that this segment

1727
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 3: may have transcended time now you've started to see it.

1728
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 3: So I actually have seen some movies. They're all just

1729
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 3: sports movies, and many of them I have seen over

1730
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 3: and over again. But you you're I just don't think

1731
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 3: you're the most capable to dive into naming a sports

1732
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 3: movie that's top five when you've probably only seen six

1733
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 3: sports movies.

1734
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 2: Undeniable that I am not the voice.

1735
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 3: I'm thirty, yes, thirty years have won, and not one

1736
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 3: time have you been like, you know what, let me

1737
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 3: see what this this buzz around Caddie Shocks all about.

1738
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 2: No, dude, I don't care about like what about Air

1739
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 2: Michael the Michael Jordan movie? What about hoois huh have

1740
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 2: you seen Hoosiers. I've seen like the scene of the

1741
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 2: free throw line. I haven't seen the whole thing. I

1742
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 2: don't I don't know how much. Why is the one

1743
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 2: guy smiling at the end though, the coach of the

1744
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 2: team that's losing, he's like smiling. Sometimes you can only

1745
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 2: laugh through the pain. Yeah, these are the questions that

1746
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: nobody seems to have the answers to. Sometimes I'm trying

1747
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 2: to think, like, whoa, what I was doing other stuff?

1748
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 10: Uh?

1749
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 3: Huh, Okay, well you heard how many seasons you're You're

1750
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:46,719
Speaker 3: thirteen seasons into.

1751
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 2: Your Madden League.

1752
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 3: Cut back on nine games a week. Let's keep it

1753
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 3: to one season a week, and let's watch them. Gay,

1754
01:33:55,040 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 3: let's watch some movies. Man, my second had a second monitor.

1755
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 3: Have a movie on in the background. Well, then I

1756
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 3: can't watch it. That's part of the problem too, is

1757
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 3: I have to like be all in, I have to

1758
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 3: like goodness, pay attention to everything, and then I'll like

1759
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 3: rewind it so it becomes a chore.

1760
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:14,719
Speaker 2: I'm like that with everything.

1761
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 3: I feel bad for Tommy G who's got to follow

1762
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 3: this conversation. Yeah, we'll attempt to do that. Next we'll

1763
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 3: talk about Hell is Real on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati,

1764
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 3: Hell was that segment?

1765
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 4: Next, you've been listening to Football in the Nattie on

1766
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:37,480
Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty, The Official Home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1767
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 1: If your is Tony Bike's Friday Football Frenzy show broke

1768
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:47,799
Speaker 1: to you in part five, Hello, Windows and Door Making Life,

1769
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1770
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1774
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:21,959
Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the Official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1775
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 2: Welcome back our three Friday Football.

1776
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 3: Frenzy thanks to Penn Station. Here on ESBN fifteen thirty,

1777
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

1778
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 2: All right, here we are.

1779
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 3: We don't want this to be the last opportunity to

1780
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 3: talk to with our guy, Tommy g of FC Cincinnati,

1781
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 3: the voice of the Orangine Blue. And for that not

1782
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 3: to be the case, well then FC Cincinnati is gonna

1783
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 3: have to take care of business Tomorrow night at TQL

1784
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 3: Stadium against that rival, the Columbus Crew. It's hell is real.

1785
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:58,640
Speaker 3: It's win or go home in the MLS playoffs. I

1786
01:35:58,680 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 3: don't know what else you could ask for.

1787
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 2: This is it.

1788
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 3: The whole season culminates tomorrow night. So for now, what

1789
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 3: we're guaranteed is one more chance to talk to Tom Gallater.

1790
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 3: He joins us right now. Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, what's.

1791
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 13: Up, Tony, Tony, Tony, Happy Friday, Happy to be here

1792
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 13: with you.

1793
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 36: And listen, boys, you're guaranteed chances to talk with me,

1794
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 36: no matter what happens tomorrow. Let's be crystal clear. But

1795
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 36: let's also plan to have some more match previews. Yes

1796
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 36: after actually.

1797
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 13: Zany get this win tomorrow at TQL Stadium.

1798
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 36: But I'm doing great. A little bit of rain today,

1799
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 36: but that's fine. Tomorrow is supposed to beautiful.

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01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 13: I think the boys will be ready and I am.

1801
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm fired up. What is this?

1802
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 36: The third matchup Cincinnati and Columbus. Hell is real in

1803
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 36: thirteen days?

1804
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 2: I think count so.

1805
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 36: Man, the energy I thought the energy obviously was amazing

1806
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 36: in game one. In Game two there was a ton

1807
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 36: of energy for the enemy, and rightfully so. And then

1808
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 36: I think the TQO Stadium is just going to be

1809
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:57,959
Speaker 36: on fire as that match.

1810
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,799
Speaker 13: Gets going at six o'clock tomorrow.

1811
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 3: Well, in order sometimes to go forward, you must at

1812
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 3: times go back and finish with what happened. Let's talk

1813
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 3: about last weekend and the win for Columbus, a four

1814
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 3: nail victory. It obviously didn't help playing shorthanded with Uyakubo

1815
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 3: getting the red card in the thirty eighth minute. Outside

1816
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 3: of just playing shorthanded, Tommy, what went wrong in that

1817
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 3: match for FC Cincinnati as it seemed to kind of

1818
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 3: snowball a little bit.

1819
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 13: Yeah, it'd be fair Tony, it felt like to me.

1820
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 36: And I thought that f C Sinatti r on the

1821
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 36: back foot from the opening touch, and obviously the red

1822
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 36: card and the ensuing free kick that made it to

1823
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 36: nail made it that much worse.

1824
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 13: But I thought, since I just.

1825
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 36: They weren't ready in the moment as Columbus came out

1826
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 36: and blitzed them and went after him and controlled the

1827
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 36: whole match from the opening whistle to the final whistle,

1828
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 36: and so to that you give the crew, you know,

1829
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,679
Speaker 36: you tip the cap and they were the worthy winners.

1830
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 36: The good news is it's not a two game series

1831
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 36: and an aggregate score otherwise to be over.

1832
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 13: You know, just as he was good news.

1833
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 36: For the crew that it wasn't the old one and

1834
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 36: done format and and actually Cincinnati were advanced after game one,

1835
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 36: so look they get to come back and have this

1836
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 36: amazing Darby matchup that'll you know, have every emotion you

1837
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 36: could dream of and plenty of heartburn.

1838
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 13: I am sure get your.

1839
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 36: Tombs ready or whatever your an asset of choice is,

1840
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 36: because this is going to be a you know, buckle up.

1841
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 36: I think mccroney used to call it a rock fight, right,

1842
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 36: It's going to be an old slugged out rock fight

1843
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,560
Speaker 36: between these two rivals who have seen a lot of

1844
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 36: each other over the last two weeks. So I think

1845
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 36: that you know, it's just a disappointing performance and disappointing start.

1846
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 36: And you know, such a contrast from game one when

1847
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 36: the team it seemingly followed the game plan so so

1848
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 36: well to the other side of it, where the game

1849
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 36: plan was you know, a bit of a disaster and

1850
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 36: you know, not not a shot at anybody, but it

1851
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 36: just wasn't executed right, and you know, maybe too many

1852
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 36: individual efforts in the game. So now you're passing the disappointment,

1853
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 36: but you haven't forgotten about it. And I think that's

1854
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 36: going to give you, know, since a little bit of

1855
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 36: extra edge, or it should, because if that doesn't tick

1856
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 36: you off coming home after getting your teeth kicked in

1857
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 36: four nailed.

1858
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 2: Then I don't know what will.

1859
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 3: The margin for air, we know is minuscule, especially when

1860
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 3: you get into the MLS playoffs and you get into

1861
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 3: a winner, go home situation. But how much at the

1862
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 3: root of this, Tommy, do you think this team takes

1863
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 3: pride in saying, yeah, we got beat, but that's not

1864
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 3: how our season is going to be defined, because you

1865
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 3: get one more opportunity to get back up off the

1866
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 3: mat and respond. How much is this team savoring in

1867
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 3: that chance that they have tomorrow night.

1868
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1869
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 2: I think they have to be.

1870
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,759
Speaker 36: And I think if you listen to the press conference

1871
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 36: or the players, or you read any of the quotes

1872
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 36: from them from yesterday, that the confidence is certainly there

1873
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 36: and that they know they have to do. I mean,

1874
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 36: I think the quote that stood out for me more

1875
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 36: than anybody else's was Lucas Engel and talking about for

1876
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 36: ninety minutes, if you're die in these boots, you know

1877
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 36: about a guy who's on loan to season, thinking about

1878
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 36: dying in his boots for this club tomorrow. If that doesn't,

1879
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 36: you know, pump your bood a little bit. I don't

1880
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 36: know what's going through. So yeah, I think they obviously

1881
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 36: recognize it. They're licking their wounds a little bit. It's

1882
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 36: interesting as I've gone through this, you know, prepared for

1883
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 36: the match, Pat Nowon in four years now is the

1884
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 36: head coach.

1885
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 13: In those four years.

1886
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 36: He's only lost by more than two goals, so three

1887
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 36: or more goals now six times, wow, which to me

1888
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 36: is pretty impressive. You know, I got to do the

1889
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 36: Count's King one of the Year tomorrow. How many games

1890
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 36: that is? But four years of regular season games? That's uh,

1891
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:39,799
Speaker 36: you know what one hundred and twenty carry the forwards,

1892
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 36: you know, one hundred and thirty six games right there,

1893
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 36: you know what I mean of regular season games plus

1894
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 36: a handful you know of playoff games for f C Cincinnati,

1895
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 36: So what this will be their twelfth playoff game, so

1896
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 36: eleven more so, that's one hundred and fifty seven games

1897
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 36: and they've only lost by you know, called that's a blowout, right,

1898
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 36: he's losing by three or more goals, that's only happened

1899
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:05,560
Speaker 36: six times now, so I think that that's really impressive

1900
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 36: that you know that that's only happened that few times.

1901
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 36: But the teams generally always responded all but once they've

1902
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:16,679
Speaker 36: gotten result in the next match, and the one time

1903
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 36: they didn't was patting in the second game as head coach,

1904
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 36: remember they got blown out in his debut at Austin

1905
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 36: and then that second game against DC United, there was

1906
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 36: a handball against Jeff Cameron and stopped the time of

1907
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 36: the second half. That resulted in a penalty kick and

1908
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 36: they lost one nail. So otherwise it'd be a result

1909
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 36: every time. So I expect this team to absolutely be

1910
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 36: ready to you know, have a little bit of an

1911
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 36: extra edge. They're coming home, they got the twenty five

1912
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 36: thousand fans behind them screaming and yelling, wearing orange blue. Yeah,

1913
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 36: I expect them to to have that killer instinct as

1914
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 36: they take the pitch.

1915
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 3: How much how much role do the fans play in

1916
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 3: a in a match like this. I know we've talked

1917
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 3: about the atmosphere at TQL Stadium many times and in

1918
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 3: our conversations on Fridays, but when you do get a

1919
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 3: chance in a winner, go home setting. How important does

1920
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 3: the crowd become because you've worked If you're oft C Cincinnati,

1921
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 3: this is why you worked all season to make sure

1922
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 3: you at least had that home field advantage if it

1923
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 3: got to a Game three in the first round where

1924
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 3: you had to come up with a win. This is

1925
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 3: why you put in work throughout the whole season. How

1926
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 3: much of an impact do the fans have.

1927
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 13: I think it's massive.

1928
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 36: I mean, I think we've seen it in both games

1929
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 36: of this series, the impact that the crowds have had,

1930
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 36: and it just provides that that extra energy kind of

1931
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 36: puts you over the edge. Right, It's like playing nip

1932
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 36: at night Tony. When you look in that uniform, right,

1933
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 36: it give you a little extra juice as you as

1934
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 36: you marched out there. Absolutely, I remember sitting in the

1935
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 36: locker room with you guys and Brian Kelly, and we

1936
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 36: could hear the crowd in that in that temporary locker

1937
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 36: room underneath you know the scoreboard end and and you

1938
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 36: could hear that.

1939
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 2: I remember one.

1940
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 36: I remember that pick game, right, the pick game at

1941
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 36: home when Brian's like you hear all this, You could

1942
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 36: hear the place like everybody shut up and listen for

1943
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 36: a minute, you know, yep, And and you could hear

1944
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 36: the crowd outside and I'm sure it's the same way

1945
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 36: as those guys line up in the tunnel and come out.

1946
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 2: And you know, I love.

1947
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 36: When there's a big moment in the home game and

1948
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 36: Kevin has his he takes his head side just off

1949
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 36: to listen to the crowd, and you know, like that's

1950
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 36: that's kind of the goosebump moment. And I'm sure it's

1951
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 36: for the guys given extra motivation, just as it was

1952
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 36: for Columbus, you know, is that game unraveled for sh

1953
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:17,600
Speaker 36: C Cincinnati, that crowd was building an energy because they

1954
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 36: realized their team was not going to be eliminated. They

1955
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 36: brought a little nervous coming in, but as as that

1956
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 36: game built and the energy built in the building, absolutely

1957
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 36: they started to feel it. So I think that, you know,

1958
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 36: that's a that's a great thing, you know for f

1959
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 36: C Cincinnati. That's what you worked for. That's why you

1960
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 36: got to two seed, to make sure that this game

1961
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 36: is here and not up there. So no, I think

1962
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 36: it's us. It's really big, and you know, hopefully it's

1963
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 36: you know, part of the reason that that pushes f

1964
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 36: C Cincinnati crossed the finish line.

1965
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 3: Tomorrow night, winner of this series we're going to face

1966
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 3: the winner of Inner Miami and Nashville. But that's where

1967
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 3: you can get to that at another time. In a

1968
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 3: game like this, you want to have all hands on deck.

1969
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 3: You want to have everyone available. From just a health

1970
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 3: standpoint going into tomorrow night. Where does where does f

1971
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:04,480
Speaker 3: C sins and I stand.

1972
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 36: Pretty good, which was great when Patt ni to Express

1973
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 36: conference yesterday, we got great news.

1974
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 2: Really.

1975
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 36: The only guys that he does not have available for

1976
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 36: selection is Matt Miaska, who's close. He's getting there. He

1977
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 36: worked in with the group a little bit this week,

1978
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 36: but he's not quite available for this match.

1979
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 13: He's been out for a while.

1980
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 2: And then Yu.

1981
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 36: Yakubo who's suspended after getting that red card. So no,

1982
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 36: i'ld say in a really good place. Nick Haaglan's back

1983
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 36: into the mix. I want to be shocked to see

1984
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 36: him back in at the starting lineup. Lucas Engel, who

1985
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 36: spoke with the media, is back into the mix. Luca

1986
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 36: Orshano is in the mix and and was on you know,

1987
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 36: came in off the bench last game. So I think

1988
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 36: he has some good options of guys, you know, if

1989
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 36: he decides he needs to make a few changes, and

1990
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 36: his starting eleven some very reliable bodies and people who

1991
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 36: have played really important minutes this year, you know, namely

1992
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 36: Nick Haglin. And you saw what you missed with him

1993
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 36: not being a bit available for game up in Columbus.

1994
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 36: So no, I think health wise, the team is in

1995
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 36: a really good spot.

1996
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 3: It is also adding to the excitement. It's to stand

1997
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:12,560
Speaker 3: alone here in the city of Cincinnati. There's obviously no Bengals,

1998
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 3: there's no Bearcat football. U see, basketball gets underway tonight,

1999
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 3: So it is the FC Cincinnati window tomorrow night at

2000
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 3: TQL Stadium.

2001
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 2: I can't wait just to watch.

2002
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 3: I can't wait to feel what that atmosphere is to

2003
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 3: hear you guys on the call very simply put Tommy

2004
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 3: to advance in the MLS playoffs to end the Columbus

2005
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:34,799
Speaker 3: Crew season.

2006
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 2: What are the biggest keys for tomorrow night?

2007
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 13: I mean, I think, listen, we kind of started the conversation.

2008
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 36: Here, but Game one, the team followed the game plan

2009
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 36: so well, and it felt like they got away from

2010
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 36: that in Game two. And we've had this conversation on

2011
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,680
Speaker 36: these fridays here in the same time, it's a lot

2012
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 36: a lot this year that you know, where there's been

2013
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 36: problems that the team has not been able to execute

2014
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 36: the game plan. And and look the credit Columbus, they

2015
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 36: took them out of the game plan.

2016
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 13: I'm sure in many ways. But I think they're gonna

2017
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 13: be ready.

2018
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 36: You know, I think that there's change on the back line,

2019
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 36: probably coming with Nick Haglan back into the lineup.

2020
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 13: Would be my guest, you know, So I think you

2021
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 13: get some stability back.

2022
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 36: There, and with everything, it starts with defense, because you know,

2023
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 36: I talked about how since and he hasn't really been

2024
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 36: blown out much, you know, across the pat inonion there.

2025
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 36: They also you know, don't blow teams out very often,

2026
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 36: and so I'd imagine this is gonna be a tight one.

2027
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 36: That's why I told you got to have your hand

2028
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 36: acids ready because lit heartburn as it goes along. But

2029
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 36: if they're strong defensively and he get some production from

2030
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 36: that front three, who's been very quiet through two games.

2031
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 36: You have one goal between Denke, the Vander and Brenner

2032
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 36: through two playoff games, and that was kind of a

2033
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 36: tap in there for Kevin, right, So I think we'll

2034
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 36: do a big offensive moment from a couple of those guys,

2035
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 36: and if that happens and the defense is strong, then yeah,

2036
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 36: we're talking about a victory and getting ready for Nashville

2037
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 36: or Miami, which is pretty darn exciting.

2038
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 3: Tom Gletter, the voice of FC Cincinnati, can't wait to

2039
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 3: hear you on the call tomorrow night, and we'll be

2040
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 3: talking next week. Ideally we're talking about the next round

2041
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:08,719
Speaker 3: of the MLS playoffs. Appreciate your time as always, enjoy

2042
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,679
Speaker 3: not only have a great call, but as you mentioned

2043
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 3: with Kevin, just enjoy the moment tomorrow night as well.

2044
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, you already know, happy to happy to do

2045
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 13: all that.

2046
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 36: We're going to have a great time and hopefully there's

2047
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 36: a couple of double high fives up there in the

2048
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 36: booth and let's go.

2049
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 2: We'll be rocking.

2050
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 3: Tom Gallader, the Voice of FC Cincinnati, Tommy, thank you

2051
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 3: so much.

2052
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 13: We'll talk so all with Tony. My pleasure.

2053
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 3: There he is, that's Tom Gallader. This is the Friday

2054
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 3: Football Frenzy. Our weekly picks are next on ESPN fifteen

2055
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to Penn Station.

2056
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 4: Now this is Football in the NATI, brought to you

2057
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 4: in part by host Men Law and vice Skyline Chilly

2058
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,600
Speaker 4: on ESPN fifteen thirty to the official home of the

2059
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals.

2060
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 2: That's it sound.

2061
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:02,919
Speaker 3: You know what time it is. It's a Friday afternoon.

2062
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 3: It's our three. It's time to make some picks. I've

2063
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 3: done away Austin with the overall records. All I know

2064
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 3: is that since I've been back after a brief hiatus,

2065
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 3: I'm one game better than you ours. We've got high

2066
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:18,839
Speaker 3: school playoffs.

2067
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 2: This is another you know, some some way to get

2068
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 2: the Tony Pikes record thing, or I mean throwing the

2069
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 2: overall record out the window is crazy. Yeah.

2070
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 3: I just when I when I took a brief hiatus,

2071
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 3: the paperwork was, You're like Wiscona. You're like Wisconsin. Really

2072
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 3: no longer count wins and losses.

2073
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 2: Oh man, let's.

2074
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,759
Speaker 3: Get to let's get to playoff football. Let's start Austin

2075
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:46,719
Speaker 3: with mcnick the Rockets. Do you know that Kevin Huber

2076
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 3: went to mcnick. Did they take on the Red Raiders

2077
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 3: of London. I'm talking about the names of Glenn c

2078
01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 3: will William Carter, Richard Hunter, Kent Hurley, Darian Huff, Sarah Taylor,

2079
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 3: and so many other notable alums wife, including my former

2080
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 3: collegiate roommate Nick d Filippo. I'll take London. Really, I

2081
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 3: don't know much of the Red Raiders. I don't, but

2082
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to trust that London is the one Seed

2083
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 3: lives to see one more week.

2084
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 2: Well, my one, my good friend and longtime listener to

2085
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 2: this show. Oh, Brian Combs. Brian, he's a mcknick guy

2086
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 2: and I'm riding with him. Uh, gimme mcknick over London.

2087
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 2: Shout out to London first. I don't know them, so

2088
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 2: I don't They don't get.

2089
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 3: To Aora, Purple Frip, Elder Elder. They host Fairfield coming

2090
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 3: off of bye Give me the Elder Panthers.

2091
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 2: Same all right?

2092
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 3: Now, this I think the toughest game to pick over

2093
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 3: the weekend because Princeton Austin for much of the season

2094
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 3: I thought they were a machine. I thought Princeton had

2095
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 3: it all rolling. They had Molar on the ropes for

2096
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 3: a half as well, and then it fell apart. But

2097
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 3: they picked up their winning ways. But what I don't

2098
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 3: like about Princeton Austin is the last game of the

2099
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 3: regular season, they lost to Middletown. One would say they're

2100
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 3: limping into the playoffs. But Winton Woods, they took Anderson

2101
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 3: to the limit. I think wint Woods is playing at

2102
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 3: the right time, even though they got to go.

2103
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,839
Speaker 2: On the road. I like Winton Woods to upset Princeton.

2104
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you, if nothing else for the

2105
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 2: power of the Strong family, Jason and Jeff and others

2106
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:36,759
Speaker 2: at Winton Woods. Gimme Winton Woods.

2107
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 3: What about the Men of Molar. They take on Lakota West.

2108
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 3: Now Lakota West. They added a running back to the

2109
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 3: team late in the season that I believe is a

2110
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 3: difference maker for Tom Bolden, this Lakota West team.

2111
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 2: What do you mean they added it? Just he just

2112
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 2: showed up.

2113
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 3: He decided to play football at the end of the year,

2114
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 3: got it at the regular season, and now he's.

2115
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 2: Eligible for the playoffs. I don't think it makes much

2116
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:57,719
Speaker 2: of a difference.

2117
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 3: If the management for the first so weather we're gonna

2118
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 3: stick around and be a little rainy tonight, I would

2119
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 3: have thought maybe there's a chance Lakota West can muddy

2120
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 3: it up. I don't think that's the case. I think

2121
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 3: Molar and Matt Ponatowski advance.

2122
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 2: I hope Matt Ponatowski behaves better at Kentucky than that

2123
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 2: other quarterback there. Yeah, but for that reason, I think

2124
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 2: he uh. I think he makes it rain on Lakota

2125
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 2: West to gimme Mohler.

2126
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 3: Similar storyline with Lakota East and John Kittna traveling to

2127
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 3: st X. Lakota East Austin almost like the Bengals. They

2128
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 3: can score with anyone. Their defense might be in par

2129
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 3: with the Bengals. I think st X is too much,

2130
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 3: but I think this game is closer than what people

2131
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 3: imagine it will be.

2132
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 2: Give me, saytex in a close one. I'm right there

2133
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 2: with you. I'm taking the Bombers. I don't pretend to

2134
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 2: know anything about these teams. I'm a big John Kittna guy.

2135
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 2: Though I love John Kittna. Yeah, but I just I

2136
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 2: believe more in the bombers Alter and Baden.

2137
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 3: I thought about making this our wind Shulers cheesy spread

2138
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 3: of the week, but then I remember we don't have

2139
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 3: spreads in high school. It depends where he looks. And

2140
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:09,680
Speaker 3: then I remember our guy Chad Shaeffer, And I thought

2141
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:11,680
Speaker 3: that I was going to pick Alter Austin, but the

2142
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 3: little Bertie told me that Alter may have already had

2143
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 3: their banquet. They might have already celebrated the season. Oh really,

2144
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true, but I know to

2145
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 3: make stuff up. But I'm just making that up. But

2146
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 3: it wouldn't surprise me because I think Alter knows that

2147
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 3: this season is coming to a close tonight. Again a

2148
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 3: team that would benefit the weather. It's not going to

2149
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 3: be raining. Give me Baden to win convincingly over Alter.

2150
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 2: And I was walking through the hallways this morning and

2151
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 2: I saw Chad Schaeffer and he said, hey, Austin, and

2152
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 2: he came up to me and shook my hand. Wow.

2153
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 2: I said, how you doing? Wow? And you know, most

2154
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 2: of the time I'm ignored by those people. Sure, and

2155
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,800
Speaker 2: so for that, the people that are supposed to be

2156
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 2: selling us endorsements. So for Chad to do that to me, wow,

2157
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 2: to to single me out, to to raise me up

2158
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 2: and lift my spirits on a beautiful Friday, well necessarily

2159
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 2: a beautiful Friday, that meant a lot to me.

2160
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 3: Gim me, Alter, I see what you're doing. I'm gonna

2161
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,560
Speaker 3: come in Monday. This's gonna be Austin Elmore since he

2162
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 3: three sixty. Hopefully you're pushing Chad Schaefer's buttons now, This

2163
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:20,040
Speaker 3: is unbelievable college football. Number one, number two, number three,

2164
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 3: all on the road, and they are all favored. Let's

2165
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 3: start with the Hoosiers. Number two, Indiana at Penn State.

2166
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 3: I am appalled. I am shocked. It's disrespectful that this

2167
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:34,440
Speaker 3: line is only fourteen and a half. Penn State stinks.

2168
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 3: Give me Indiana to role comfortably. Are you sure this

2169
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 3: is only fourteen and a half?

2170
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 2: I think so. Are you one hundred percent certain? Let

2171
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 2: me pull it up right now as we speak. Now

2172
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 2: I see it on ESPN BED as fourteen and a half,

2173
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:49,639
Speaker 2: But do they count that? Is that app still even functional?

2174
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was shocked this was fourteen and a half.

2175
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 2: I really was.

2176
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 3: That's insulting. Makes me wonder if something's going on. But

2177
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm not buying it.

2178
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 2: Indiana, Indiana in a route, I would take it the

2179
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:00,599
Speaker 2: forty four and a half.

2180
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about this? The number one team in the

2181
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 3: country goes to what is it West Lafayette. Yeah, that's

2182
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 3: where Purdue's at. Yeah, Purdue oh and six and the

2183
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 3: Big ten. Julian saying I think is the Heisman Trophy

2184
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 3: winner right now?

2185
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,799
Speaker 2: And he does nothing, says a lot. You have a vote?

2186
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 3: He does nothing tomorrow Austin to take that thought away.

2187
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 3: I think Saying has a huge day, And even though

2188
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 3: it's thirty and a half, give me the Buckeyes.

2189
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:31,559
Speaker 2: I don't I want to pick Purdue to cover oh

2190
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 2: because it's a weird start time oh one o'clock that

2191
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 2: never happens in college. It's a road game, and it's

2192
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 2: a road game in West Lafayette and Ohio State never

2193
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 2: seems to play well there. But this defense is much

2194
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 2: like a Boa constrictor. Wow. Julian Saying has proved me

2195
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 2: wrong every step of the way so far this year.

2196
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 2: I'll take the Buckeyes to cover thirty and a half.

2197
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 3: Number three team in the country, that's Texas A and M.

2198
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 3: They're on the road at number twenty two Missouri. Missouri

2199
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 3: at home is going to get sick and a half

2200
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 3: in this game at Memorial Stadium in Columbia, Missouri. I

2201
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 3: don't know why I'm still not sold on Texas A

2202
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 3: and M. Hand up, I haven't watched as much of

2203
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 3: Texas A and M as I have other teams. I

2204
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 3: think Missouri keeps this close enough to cover six.

2205
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 2: And a half.

2206
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 10: Oh.

2207
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 2: We seem to be on the same wavelength. I don't

2208
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 2: know why, but I have a soft spot for Missouri

2209
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 2: and being at home against a number three team in

2210
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 2: the country weather it looks like it's gonna be beautiful.

2211
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 2: I got Missouri. I got Missouri to cover that six

2212
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 2: and a half, and I wouldn't be surprised if they

2213
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 2: won out right.

2214
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 3: Ninth ranked team in the country, Oregon at the twentieth

2215
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 3: ranked Iowa hawkeys. This is Kinnick Stadium. I love that

2216
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 3: they waved to the children's hospital. I love everything about

2217
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 3: what Iowa has been. But Iowa is defense and special teams,

2218
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 3: and Oregon is about putting points on the board. I

2219
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 3: think six and a half is too small of a number.

2220
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 3: I'll take the Ducks simply because I don't think Iowa

2221
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 3: can score in there.

2222
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 2: If this was ten or twelve and a half, maybe

2223
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 2: I'd consider Iowa. Yeah, but they might be waving to

2224
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 2: the kid. They're also gonna be waving goodbye to their

2225
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 2: college football playoff ranking. Oregon comfortable in a victory at Iowa.

2226
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 2: The Tigers.

2227
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 3: The Bayou Tigers coach O not coaching this team yet,

2228
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 3: but LSU coachless.

2229
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:13,520
Speaker 2: What do you what do you know?

2230
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 3: LSU coachless going into number four Alabama Alabama minus nine

2231
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 3: and a half.

2232
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 2: Is that too many points Austin, No, not enough.

2233
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 3: I disagree. I think LSU circles the wagons. They circle

2234
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 3: the wagons and they cover the number against Alabama.

2235
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 2: I think Alabama smokes them, and then the heat really

2236
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 2: turns up on the governor and whoever the hell is

2237
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 2: making a decision on the family. Yeah, the family. All

2238
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 2: those folks at LSU, they're gonna be calling Joe Burrow

2239
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 2: asking for money, trying to get this figured out. I

2240
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 2: got Alabama at Bryant Denny in a beautiful day in Tuscaloosa.

2241
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 2: How about this.

2242
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 3: They're gonna be jumping around in Madison, Wisconsin. Why because

2243
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 3: coach Lick Coach Luke Fickle's gonna return to coach the

2244
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 3: Badgers of twenty six. They're aligned on significantly elevating investment

2245
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 3: in the program to compete at the highest level. They're

2246
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 3: willing to make an investment in infrastructure and staff. You

2247
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 3: want to talk about circle on the wagons. I don't

2248
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 3: think many people in Madison are happy about that from

2249
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 3: the chancellor. So I'm gonna take Washington in a route

2250
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 3: at Wisconsin.

2251
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 2: Tickets available at Camp Randall Stadium as low as seven dollars.

2252
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh for Wisconsin, which is ridiculous. They are

2253
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 2: winless in the Big Ten, but winless no more. I'm

2254
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:39,880
Speaker 2: not impressed by Washington. I am not impressed by Washington. Yeah,

2255
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 2: they got a decent quarterback, but I think the vote

2256
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 2: of confidence in Luke Fickle and his staff is enough

2257
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 2: to push them over the top. Everybody takes a collective

2258
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 2: sigh of relief, a deep breath. They get a ranked

2259
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 2: win in the Fickle era restarts at Wisconsin, even though

2260
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 2: they're ad said they're not counting wins and losses anymore.

2261
01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 3: Zach Calzada, who well, he was a Kentucky quarterback that

2262
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 3: got paid a bunch of money. Now he's been benched.

2263
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 3: But he went on social media and he told someone

2264
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 3: to get their money up. Get your money up. It's

2265
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 3: all that's your money up. It's all that's wrong with

2266
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 3: college football. What are we doing throwing that many hundred

2267
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 3: dollars bills on video? You want people to know you

2268
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 3: got all that money on you. You want to open

2269
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 3: yourself up. Not smart, not smart, not smart. But as

2270
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 3: Matt Jones from Kentucky Sports Radio said, but to be fair,

2271
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 3: Garrett should get his money up too. Austin gets your

2272
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 3: money up. I'm taking Florida to route Kentucky and Mark

2273
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 3: Stoops has completely lost control of this team.

2274
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 2: I was about to say, final nail in the coffin

2275
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 2: of one Mark Stoops is a loss at the hands

2276
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 2: of Florida, which is a dumpster fire at home in Lexington.

2277
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't want it to be

2278
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 2: this way, but I feel like that's the case. That

2279
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Major issues going on to the Kentucky

2280
01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 2: football program. And Matt pan Rodowski's still handling business up

2281
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 2: there at Moler, So until he gets there, it's gonna

2282
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 2: be a long road to hoe for the Kentucky Wildcats.

2283
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 3: Give me Florida. You smell that something doesn't smell right here?

2284
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 3: Number seven BYU. That's right, Number seven BYU. Number seven BYU.

2285
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 3: Hit it again. Number seven BYU. Yeah, at number eight

2286
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:31,200
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2292
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Speaker 3: upcoming get togethers ten and a half austin Lubbock, Texas.

2293
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 3: What's Texas Tech mascot the Red Raiders? Do they get

2294
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 3: the Raiders treatment? No, not yet, not yet, b YU.

2295
02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 3: They live off this, they thrive off. They don't have boys,

2296
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 3: they got men on that BYU team rolling into Lubbock,

2297
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 3: Texas and the numbers ten and a half. It's disrespectful

2298
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:15,520
Speaker 3: as all get out. It stinks to high heavens. I

2299
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 3: don't understand why, but I'm rolling with BYU and this

2300
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 3: one to beat, not to beat, to cover the number

2301
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 3: against Texas Tech. Go ahead of myself.

2302
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand why you're all hot and bothered about this.

2303
02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is one of the best teams in the country.

2304
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 2: They're at home, whether they have they're not, whether they

2305
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 2: have the tortillas or not, it doesn't matter. Give me

2306
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:40,400
Speaker 2: the Red Raiders comfortably by two touchdowns maybe more wow

2307
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:46,720
Speaker 2: over BYU in uh where they at lubb CLUBBIC Yeah.

2308
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 3: Tot Mahome is going to be a game day. By

2309
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:53,320
Speaker 3: the way, the NFL Falcons, Colts, they're overseas Berlin. Six

2310
02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 3: and a half is the number you ever been to Germany?

2311
02:00:56,280 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 3: No oh as as Carly Ursa Gordon said to Chris Ballard,

2312
02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 3: do you want the band aid or do you want

2313
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 3: to fix it long term with this defense? They said

2314
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:08,360
Speaker 3: long term. They got Sauce Gardner and they're gonna win

2315
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:11,160
Speaker 3: and they're gonna reap the benefits. But it ain't gonna

2316
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:13,600
Speaker 3: be easy. Colts win, Falcons cover six and a half.

2317
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think the Colts rebounded a big way.

2318
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 2: I just like their current structure. The Falcons can't make

2319
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 2: up their mind who they are. I got the Colts

2320
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 2: to cover six and a half.

2321
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 3: The Toilet Bowl Cleveland and the Jets. The Jets have

2322
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:29,040
Speaker 3: seemingly moved on from most of their team, and the

2323
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 3: players that still remain I don't think want to be

2324
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 3: a part of the roster. They don't want to be there.

2325
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett wants to be on the field. He wants

2326
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:37,880
Speaker 3: to be an MVP in the National Football League. He

2327
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:39,720
Speaker 3: wants to be a defensive Player of the Year. He

2328
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:42,440
Speaker 3: may sack justin fields nine times in this game, I

2329
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 3: think the Browns. I think Quinn Shawn Jenkins do enough.

2330
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 3: Browns win on the road at New York.

2331
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 2: Browns are just a much better football team than the

2332
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,120
Speaker 2: Jets and Cleveland. Crazy.

2333
02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 3: We're saying that to a team that just beat the Bengals.

2334
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:55,960
Speaker 3: Ravens at Vikings. A lot of people have Ravens as

2335
02:01:55,960 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 3: the favorite in the AFC North. Still Vikings big win

2336
02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 3: over Detroit last week. JJ McCarthy acting like Tom Brady

2337
02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 3: on the field and in the locker room. He drives

2338
02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:06,120
Speaker 3: me nuts. I'm less and less of a fan of

2339
02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 3: McCarthy every week. Give me the Ravens in this one

2340
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:08,960
Speaker 3: to cover four and a half.

2341
02:02:09,160 --> 02:02:12,160
Speaker 2: Think you summed up my thought press perfectly. I mean,

2342
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 2: that's exactly what I was gonna say. Baltimore, what do

2343
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 2: you got with the Patriots and the Buccaneers. I know

2344
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:20,080
Speaker 2: you're high on both of these teams. Bucks laying two

2345
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 2: and a half at home. I picked the Bucks to

2346
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 2: go to the super Bowl not that long ago. I'm

2347
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:28,480
Speaker 2: a huge fan of New England. I love the progress

2348
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:30,640
Speaker 2: that they're making on offense. I still think they have

2349
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:33,080
Speaker 2: a ways to go with their run game, especially with

2350
02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 2: Raman J. Stevenson hurt, but I'm a fan. I think

2351
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 2: New England goes in, gets a road killed, and the

2352
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 2: AFC gets really interesting. I got the Patriots beating Tampa

2353
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:45,640
Speaker 2: in Tampa and certainly covering that two and a half.

2354
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with much that you said about the Patriots.

2355
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 3: I just think Tampa is balanced. I think Tampa can

2356
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 3: beach in a multitude of ways. I think they're getting healthier.

2357
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:57,520
Speaker 3: I Thinkguka has a huge game. Give me the Buccaneers

2358
02:02:57,640 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 3: to cover at home? Rams Niners, McVeigh, Shanahan. I think

2359
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:05,520
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford could be the MVP of the NFL right now.

2360
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 3: I think he continues to have a huge handprint on

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02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 3: this Rams team. I think they avenge what has been

2362
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:17,320
Speaker 3: McVeigh or Shanahan. It's been slightly one sided with Shanahan.

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02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:19,040
Speaker 3: I think McVeigh gets it done on the road. Give

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02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 3: me the Rams. I'm right there with you. I'll never

2365
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:24,640
Speaker 3: pick against Sean McVay. How about the Chargers hosting the

2366
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:27,879
Speaker 3: Steelers Austin? What do you make of this one? Chargers

2367
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:29,000
Speaker 3: minus three and a half at home.

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02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 2: You know there is a theory out there somewhere about

2369
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:36,880
Speaker 2: how bad Mike Tomlin teams perform on the road at

2370
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:40,320
Speaker 2: night games. Is it a road night games? And there's

2371
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:43,120
Speaker 2: something with the sleep schedule there and all that going on.

2372
02:03:43,160 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 2: If somebody did a deep dive into this a couple

2373
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:47,480
Speaker 2: of months ago or a couple of weeks ago when

2374
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 2: they lost the Thursday night game. So for that reason,

2375
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 2: cross Country Sunday night football in Los Angeles, I'm taking

2376
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 2: the Chargers, even though they don't have Joe Walt Delly.

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02:03:57,440 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's just something about this Deelers team.

2378
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 3: They get momentum off defensively what they were able to

2379
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 3: do against Indy. I think Aaron Rodgers is getting more

2380
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:07,960
Speaker 3: and more comfortable in this offense. I'll take the Steelers

2381
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 3: against the short handed Chargers. What do you think of

2382
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:11,640
Speaker 3: Eagles at Packers?

2383
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:15,720
Speaker 2: I I don't know why. I've just lost the Steelers.

2384
02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:18,800
Speaker 3: Yes, I've lost so much faith in the Packers need too.

2385
02:04:19,720 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 3: I think the Eagles go in and make a statement.

2386
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 3: I think the Eagles start to play like we viewed

2387
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:26,280
Speaker 3: the Eagles going into the year. I think the Packers

2388
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:29,400
Speaker 3: are are stumbling, and I think the Eagles take advantage

2389
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 3: and and they win on the road.

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02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. I agree. I just don't

2391
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 2: believe in the Packers right now. I'm surprised that to

2392
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:37,040
Speaker 2: me could be the cheesy spread of the week with

2393
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:39,240
Speaker 2: green Bay being favored, but I got Philly.

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02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:40,880
Speaker 3: A lot of people say our last game is the

2395
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:44,760
Speaker 3: cheesy spread as well Austin because the Cincinnati Bengals there

2396
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 3: it is thanks to win shirtless again. The Cincinnati Bengals

2397
02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 3: Austin are only a four and a half point dog

2398
02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 3: this week to.

2399
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 2: The bye week really.

2400
02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 3: Be something some fishies going on because the Bengals are

2401
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 3: at home, and maybe it's the home crowd, maybe it's

2402
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 3: the atmosphere.

2403
02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think Jake Browning is starting this game because

2404
02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor sent Flacco back to New Jersey to hang

2405
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:13,720
Speaker 2: out with his family. Okay for this bye week game,

2406
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 2: So I'm going to take bye Man to cover four

2407
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 2: and a half.

2408
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:18,440
Speaker 3: You and I are on the same page. I think

2409
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:21,560
Speaker 3: it was disrespectful to the bye week to put this only.

2410
02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 2: At four and a half.

2411
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:24,000
Speaker 3: I think this week has a better offensive. People think

2412
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:25,320
Speaker 3: I think this is a six and a half or

2413
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:27,240
Speaker 3: seven and a half number. I think that's too much.

2414
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:29,960
Speaker 3: I think the Bengals maybe can win off the leg

2415
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:34,200
Speaker 3: of Evan McPherson late, but I don't think they I

2416
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 3: think they could open the back door, I really do,

2417
02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 3: but I don't think they can win. Give me the

2418
02:05:39,320 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 3: bye week to finish off the Bengals. We're done with Pickham, Pickham,

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Speaker 3: We'll be back. Seventy three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: fiercest debates in sports. Moegger Today at three pm on

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Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty uc k Y, Cincinnati. Make us the

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Speaker 3: Sid All right, welcome back. It's the Friday Football Frenzy.

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02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:31,720
Speaker 3: We are winding things down here on a Friday afternoon

2430
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:34,600
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks again to

2431
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 3: our friends here at Penn Station. What a unique weekend,

2432
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 3: the rare double bye. We've talked about it all week.

2433
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 3: Bengals off, Bearcats off, all eyes on hell being real

2434
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:51,600
Speaker 3: on Saturday night, that's tomorrow night. We talked to Tom

2435
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,080
Speaker 3: Gallaider in this hour. We appreciate Tommy joining us today.

2436
02:06:54,080 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 3: We appreciate Charlie Goldsmith joining us today. But Man, Austin,

2437
02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:01,040
Speaker 3: howel disappointing. I didn't get to ask this to Tommy,

2438
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 3: and I was thinking about this after we got off

2439
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:06,760
Speaker 3: the phone. How disappointing does this season feel if they

2440
02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:09,720
Speaker 3: fall short against Columbus because you get the two seed,

2441
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 3: but with what Columbus did to them last year and

2442
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 3: with with how this season would end, I feel like

2443
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:18,440
Speaker 3: that would be devastating. I feel like they need this

2444
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:19,200
Speaker 3: win tomorrow night.

2445
02:07:19,160 --> 02:07:21,160
Speaker 2: In a big way. Yeah. I mean, there's there's no

2446
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 2: other way around it. And especially it would start to

2447
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:28,080
Speaker 2: have like the feeling of like the Bengals and the Steelers, Yeah,

2448
02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:30,120
Speaker 2: from like ten years ago, where it's like you just

2449
02:07:30,160 --> 02:07:33,840
Speaker 2: can't seem to avoid these guys and they always seem

2450
02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 2: to be in the way. And I know that that's

2451
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:38,280
Speaker 2: on the mind of FC. Cincinnati is trying to get

2452
02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:39,840
Speaker 2: their revenge from a couple of years ago in the

2453
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:44,120
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals. And the other thing, too, is with

2454
02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:47,040
Speaker 2: Miami waiting in the wings in the second round, that's

2455
02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:49,160
Speaker 2: a team you go into with a lot of confidence

2456
02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 2: against it doesn't matter if Messi's on the field or not.

2457
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 2: Cincinnati has been good against Miami and at times dominant

2458
02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 2: against Miami. So as far as I'm concerned, you know,

2459
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 2: you feel really confident going into that game if you're

2460
02:08:04,160 --> 02:08:08,520
Speaker 2: able to get past Columbus, and I think that's got

2461
02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:09,360
Speaker 2: to be on their minds.

2462
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bearcats, as we mentioned earlier, they take on

2463
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 3: Georgia State tonight. But the news is we didn't get

2464
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 3: touch on it really today Austin. It feels like Sincere

2465
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:22,040
Speaker 3: Harris is going to get to play tonight, or at

2466
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:24,840
Speaker 3: least be available to play. How much he does I

2467
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 3: think is up in the air. But based on what

2468
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:30,280
Speaker 3: we saw the other night, Sincere Harris I think is

2469
02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 3: going to be massive for this team going forward. And

2470
02:08:35,120 --> 02:08:37,680
Speaker 3: to hear Wes Miller talk about him being available and

2471
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:40,480
Speaker 3: the test on the risk coming back positive, I think

2472
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 3: that's a big boost for the Bearcats. Yeah, Kentucky val

2473
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:47,360
Speaker 3: Pereiso also tonight Miami of Ohio. Let's not forget the RedHawks.

2474
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 3: They take on the Trinity Christian Trolls. The Trolls of

2475
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:54,120
Speaker 3: Trinity Christian and a good one tonight Top twenty five

2476
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:58,400
Speaker 3: matchup against some blue bloods in college basketball, Kansas and

2477
02:08:58,480 --> 02:09:03,720
Speaker 3: North Carolina, also happening tonight on the college basketball world. Yes,

2478
02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 3: how will you go about Austin spending your double?

2479
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:12,680
Speaker 2: By My current plan is to watch the Ohio State

2480
02:09:12,720 --> 02:09:17,040
Speaker 2: Buckeyes on Saturday, and then it's really going to be

2481
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:20,680
Speaker 2: asked to couch Wow, NFL Red Zone on Sunday. So

2482
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:24,400
Speaker 2: it's really no different than any other man. This is

2483
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:26,240
Speaker 2: this is how I operate. This is the life that

2484
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:29,120
Speaker 2: I live. Asked to couch? Yes, I like that. I

2485
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:32,440
Speaker 2: like that term high school college. By the way, I

2486
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:35,280
Speaker 2: should say this before we get off the air tonight

2487
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 2: six o'clock until six thirty, leading in to Moe Egger

2488
02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:44,800
Speaker 2: and Dan Hord and Bearcat basketball. Wow, is yours truly?

2489
02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:48,360
Speaker 2: On seven hundred six to six thirty? What are you

2490
02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:50,480
Speaker 2: going to talk about for a half hour? Give me

2491
02:09:50,520 --> 02:09:55,040
Speaker 2: something We're going tony to dispel a narrative? Uh oh,

2492
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:59,040
Speaker 2: there is a narrative out there about Joseph lee Borough

2493
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:03,800
Speaker 2: and old man Joe Flacco where the numbers simply do

2494
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:07,200
Speaker 2: not reflect the narrative. We'll talk about it, and of

2495
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:10,800
Speaker 2: course the sports headlines, and there's also something that could

2496
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:13,160
Speaker 2: be looming for the Bengals that could be detrimental to

2497
02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:14,880
Speaker 2: the future of the franchise. We'll talk about all of

2498
02:10:14,920 --> 02:10:21,080
Speaker 2: it in that thirty minute time frame. Now be prepared mentally, physically, emotionally,

2499
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 2: and spiritually.

2500
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 3: You've had a lot of change. I believe you've settled

2501
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:29,000
Speaker 3: into a new place of residency. In settling into that

2502
02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:32,280
Speaker 3: new place, Austin, I know you're late to the game

2503
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:35,320
Speaker 3: when it comes to tuning into college basketball and some

2504
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:37,400
Speaker 3: other things because you get caught up in football. As

2505
02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:39,640
Speaker 3: you said, asked to couch on Sundays.

2506
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 2: I tried to watch Davier last night and I couldn't.

2507
02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:46,520
Speaker 3: When when does any Christmas decor go up in the

2508
02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:47,480
Speaker 3: Elmore residents?

2509
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:49,280
Speaker 2: You know, that's a good question. I was on the

2510
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:52,200
Speaker 2: phone to my mom just the other day and she

2511
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:57,280
Speaker 2: was asking me the same thing. My history and tradition

2512
02:10:58,040 --> 02:11:01,440
Speaker 2: over the course of my life has been Black Friday

2513
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:05,080
Speaker 2: is when all the Christmas stuff goes up, and it

2514
02:11:05,120 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 2: normally comes down on New Year's Day. Okay, So that's

2515
02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 2: that's the that's the plan typically and if if you

2516
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:16,320
Speaker 2: follow along, you know I have to work Black Friday

2517
02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:18,760
Speaker 2: morning one am to three am for the Bengals post

2518
02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:22,760
Speaker 2: game show. So my guess is Black Friday will be

2519
02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:26,200
Speaker 2: spent with me sleeping in and then taking down and

2520
02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:27,960
Speaker 2: then putting up the Christmas store. And I got to

2521
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:31,280
Speaker 2: figure out it's a fake tree. I gotta figure out

2522
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:33,560
Speaker 2: what the hell where it's gonna go. Now the decor

2523
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:36,959
Speaker 2: one thing. You're a big candle guy. I love candles.

2524
02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:40,680
Speaker 2: Will you light a Christmas candle before Black Friday? I

2525
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:43,680
Speaker 2: got a candle warmer recently.

2526
02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 3: That's smart, which saves the life of the candle till

2527
02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:49,560
Speaker 3: saves the life of the candle. And if you where

2528
02:11:49,880 --> 02:11:51,920
Speaker 3: the way my apartment is set up, I have an

2529
02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:55,560
Speaker 3: air conditioning unit and that thing will blow out any

2530
02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 3: candles in.

2531
02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:59,080
Speaker 2: The living room, promps it. It just blows it out.

2532
02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:02,520
Speaker 2: And so I have like gotten this candle warmer that

2533
02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:08,520
Speaker 2: is more helpful, but candlewarmuse now in the box of

2534
02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:11,960
Speaker 2: Christmas stuff? Is the Christmas candles are in there? Nice? Yeah,

2535
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:14,320
Speaker 2: you go get those out a little earlier. I'm a

2536
02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:20,680
Speaker 2: big proponent that that since have a huge impact on

2537
02:12:20,720 --> 02:12:21,280
Speaker 2: the environment.

2538
02:12:21,440 --> 02:12:27,520
Speaker 3: SS yes, since Yeah, we're big into that in the

2539
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:32,440
Speaker 3: pie Castle as well. Good luck to all the high

2540
02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:35,320
Speaker 3: school football teams in action. Tonight looking to advance in

2541
02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:38,200
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Good Luck to the Bearcats, the Kentucky Wildcats,

2542
02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 3: the Miami RedHawks, and good luck to f C Cincinnati.

2543
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:44,320
Speaker 3: We appreciate our guy, Charlie Goldsmith. We appreciate Tom Gallaider.

2544
02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:48,200
Speaker 3: We appreciate everyone that makes this show possible. Appreciate all

2545
02:12:48,200 --> 02:12:51,120
Speaker 3: our guests throughout the week. Austin, appreciate you.

2546
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:54,440
Speaker 2: Thanks Man, appreciate you. Have a great weekend, you too.

2547
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:57,520
Speaker 2: What have we got coming up next? It's ken Brew?

2548
02:12:57,600 --> 02:13:03,240
Speaker 3: Right, Uh yeah, I think ken Brew? Wow, I love

2549
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:07,280
Speaker 3: ken Brew. He's next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

2550
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:09,560
Speaker 3: Have a great rest of your Friday, have a great weekend.