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Speaker 1: Once again, may everyone have a good Friday. And secondly,

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Speaker 1: I would note that we can continue to follow the

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Speaker 1: events in southwestern Iran. They're shooting down seemingly of an

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Speaker 1: So we'll anticipate more coming on that later this afternoon,

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Speaker 1: but until then, Dean Regus, welcome again to the Bill

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Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. And that some of the NASA released some

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Speaker 1: of the first images by the astronauts aboard the Artemis

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Speaker 2: They're unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: So as we speak this Friday afternoon, where is Artemis

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Speaker 3: Well, the latest is that the four crew members are

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Speaker 3: on their way to the Moon. This is a about

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Speaker 1: Well you holding your breath a little bit when it

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Speaker 2: And so when that took off, that was it was

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Speaker 3: It was pretty pretty emotional for me too, because you know,

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Speaker 3: I've not seen one of these. I was born after

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Speaker 2: Was all new to me.

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Speaker 1: It became in nineteen seventy two seventy three, became almost

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Speaker 1: next one. All of a sudden, all hell broke loose

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter Ronald Reagan, can you tell me why it

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Speaker 1: took another fifty three years to plan the mission supposedly

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Speaker 3: Well, you bring up a good point, and this is

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Speaker 1: I can recall it John F. Kennedy in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 3: I would say that the mission is to test out

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Speaker 2: I think that would be the ultimate goal.

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Speaker 1: So right now, explain the whiplash. It went up and

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Speaker 1: I went around the Earth one time, then it like whipped.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so this is some serious rocket science stuff.

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Speaker 3: This is some nerdy stuff that's beyond even me that

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Speaker 2: To the moon.

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Speaker 1: How many miles above the surface of the Moon will

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Speaker 3: What I was reading is the latest estimates it's going

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Speaker 2: But that was the thing.

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Speaker 1: Now, when they return to Earth, are they going to

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Speaker 2: Be April tenth, is what I'm here in.

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Speaker 1: And at this point, this good Friday afternoon, How fast

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Speaker 1: And so you're about one quarter the way that By

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe saw me on TV and they can

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Speaker 3: analyze them and say they were They are almost identical

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Speaker 1: A few years ago, a few billion years ago, as

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Speaker 2: It circled the Earth.

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Speaker 3: Is that correct, Yeah, it's It's one of the most

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Speaker 1: We're here briefly, because we have a moon, we have

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Speaker 2: Is that is that fair?

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Speaker 3: If I could say that with a lot of certainty,

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Speaker 3: you know, it messes with me, Bill, like when I

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Speaker 2: But could their life have formed without that? It's certainly possible.

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Speaker 1: Now, when I read the Communist right Chinese, they want

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Speaker 3: And for me, this is an exciting moment, and I

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Speaker 3: I think that's real exciting. How's the toilets? Are the

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Speaker 3: I don't know if people read about that that there

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Speaker 2: Lunar rendezvous.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's see it happens down the road. Dean,

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Speaker 1: you've forgotten more about space than most people know. You're

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Speaker 1: on next week as the aircraft lands.

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Speaker 2: And when's it going to land?

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Speaker 3: Today's right now, splash down there saying April tenth. That,

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Speaker 2: Not much changing from now on.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Dean, regus, happy and good Friday to

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Speaker 1: this Friday afternoon on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Dean,

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Speaker 1: my pleasure and keep looking up and keep your feet

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Let's continue with the more we

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