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Speaker 1: They say, the hardest thing in sports isn't winning a title.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to repeat seasons.

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Speaker 1: It's winning it again.

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Speaker 3: This year is not trying to win a championship, They're

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Speaker 3: trying to repeat.

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Speaker 1: It's October baseball for your world champion in La Dodger.

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Speaker 4: The twenty twenty five Dodgers are the National Leagues Western

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Speaker 4: Division champions and you know what that means.

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Speaker 5: Saxon Kates and AM is back.

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Speaker 1: This is Saxon Kates in the Morning with Tim Kates

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Speaker 1: and former World champion Dodger Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 5: Reacting taking your phone calls talking Dodgers playoff baseball.

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Speaker 1: Saxon Kates in the Morning is presented by Daniels Jewler's

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Speaker 1: official sponsor of every trip around the Diamond own.

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Speaker 5: The Dream all postseason long.

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Speaker 1: Now Here they are on AM five to seventy LA

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Speaker 1: Sports and the iHeartRadio ass.

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Speaker 5: Steve Sacks, Tim Kates.

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Speaker 1: Tim Kates and World Champion Dodger Steve Sacks. Ah.

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Speaker 5: Here we go Saxon Kate to the AM on a

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Speaker 5: Monday morning, October six, twenty twenty five, as your Dodgers

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Speaker 5: are up one game to nothing and the best of

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Speaker 5: five nlds Yes, the Dodgers take Game one in Philadelphia

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Speaker 5: on Saturday. They come back and beat the Phils by

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Speaker 5: a final of five to three. I am Tim Kates,

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Speaker 5: joined by two times World Series Champ, former Rookie of

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Speaker 5: the Year, and one hell of a.

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Speaker 6: Guy, the one and only Steve Sack. Saxon.

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Good morning Tim. How's it going, Bud.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing a lot better now than I was.

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Speaker 5: The first few winnings of Saturday's game in Philadelphia would

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Speaker 5: turned out to be a pitching matchup that lived up

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Speaker 5: to the hype show. Heyo Tani had a rough second inning,

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Speaker 5: was able to work around that.

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Speaker 6: It was fantastic. The rest of the way.

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Speaker 5: The Dodgers offense struggled against Christopher Sanchez. But here, Sack,

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Speaker 5: see here it was in the seventh inning, one mighty

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Speaker 5: swing of the bat from tay Oscar Hernandez change everything and.

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Speaker 8: Part of the misplaying right field and the Philly scored

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Speaker 8: three runs in the second inning. He can make up

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Speaker 8: for it with one swing. The pitch get high in

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Speaker 8: the air right center field, bait her on the run

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Speaker 8: on the warning track.

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Speaker 6: He's at the wall.

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Speaker 7: It's gone Tayo time.

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Speaker 8: In Game one, he flips the scoreboard with a three

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Speaker 8: run bomb, and.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, Citizens Bank Park resembles a library,

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Speaker 4: nice and quiet. Damn bo just continued to travel and travel.

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Speaker 5: Tay Oscar Hernandez the three run home run as the

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Speaker 5: Dodgers complete the comeback and they're up one nothing in

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Speaker 5: this best of five series.

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Speaker 6: Steve Sacks, what a win on Saturday.

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Speaker 7: It was that was unbelievable. And you know, the good

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Speaker 7: news we're here Monday. It means the Dodgers are winning.

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Speaker 7: So uh, you know, I see on the screen Tim

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Speaker 7: there prep prepping and getting all ready and is all

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Speaker 7: studious with your glasses on. The unshaven look means that

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Speaker 7: you've been delving deep in thought and haven't had time

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Speaker 7: to shave. Get it sax, He plays, Oh is that

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Speaker 7: what it is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Okay, oh really that's.

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Speaker 6: Sort of a beard. But yeah, the best I can do.

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Speaker 7: All right, anyway, it's good news. Hey. The great thing

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Speaker 7: is a couple of things I like, you know, it's

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Speaker 7: kind of sticking it to the Phillies because you know,

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Speaker 7: they're they're the team that's been you know that's been

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Speaker 7: kind of like the unbeatable ones and the you know,

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Speaker 7: the pitching staff is so great, and you know, give it,

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Speaker 7: give it to Sanchez. He pitched really well. That change

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Speaker 7: up was amazing. It comes out of that same windows,

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Speaker 7: same armor speed, really tough to pick up. So what

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Speaker 7: you find out later in the game is guys start

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Speaker 7: guessing more. And that's why you saw show hey get

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Speaker 7: locked up a couple of times, the fastballs right down

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Speaker 7: the middle, and you think, why is he taking that

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Speaker 7: you get you give it to Sanchiaz. But but look,

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Speaker 7: here's a great thing that happens when a guy's cruising.

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Speaker 7: And then you say, well, you know his arm and everything,

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Speaker 7: even though it's a close game and he's cruising again

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Speaker 7: the blake, the Blake Snell saga that happened a few

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Speaker 7: to the bullpen. No matter how strong it is, what

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Speaker 7: you've done is you've changed the perspective of the bench

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Speaker 7: in which you are facing that the opposition now says, hey,

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Speaker 7: this guy's gone. This is a new look. And what happens, pow,

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Speaker 7: the ball is out of here and this script is flipped.

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Speaker 7: It's five to three Dodgers. Now, that's what happens when

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Speaker 7: you get so smart and you're gonna take the guy

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Speaker 7: Even though it's the playoffs, boom, you lose. That happens

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Speaker 7: all the I don't know when these guys are gonna

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Speaker 7: learn to push the guy a little bit. Okay, go

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Speaker 7: in there one hundred and twenty or thirty pitches. If

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 7: This is what happens. Yeah, you know, we're glad it did.

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Speaker 5: He was at ninety four pitches when they played him

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Speaker 5: in the sixth inning, and which interesting is he came

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Speaker 5: out with a three to nzhing lead. He got a

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Speaker 5: ground ball out for Mookie Betts. T Oscar Hernandez struck

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Speaker 5: out ugly looking. He walked Freddy Freeman with two outs,

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Speaker 5: and then Tommy Edmund slaps the ball the right field

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Speaker 5: on a great job because the shortstops shading up the

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Speaker 5: middle for some reason because they think if Freddy's gonna steal,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but Edmund singles to write, so the

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Speaker 5: rally kind of gets going there when Taoskar Hernandez, excuse me,

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Speaker 5: keiky Hernandez. Keiky Hernandez then doubles down the left field line,

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Speaker 5: all of it with two outs, just like they did

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Speaker 5: in the seventh inning. And after Keik's two run double

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Speaker 5: they decided to go to the bullpen for Robertson. They

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Speaker 5: didn't even leave him out there to try to figure

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Speaker 5: year it out in this sixth inning. And that's exactly

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Speaker 5: what you're talking about, a little bit of adversity. And

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Speaker 5: they took Sanchez out and for the Dodgers, they were

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Speaker 5: all probably looking at each other on that bench and thinking, yes,

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Speaker 7: Tim the guy gave up four hits and two runs

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Speaker 7: and five and two thirds. Not bad, you know, one

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Speaker 7: more out and it's a call it. They call it

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Speaker 7: a quality start, right, I mean three three runs and

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Speaker 7: he was he was right there and you yank him, okay,

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Speaker 7: and and this this is what happens, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: it is what it is. But the Dodgers took full

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Speaker 7: advantage of it. By the way, the fact that the

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't understand seventy five percent of the

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Speaker 7: shifting that people do today. You know, even even with

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Speaker 7: the guy on second base and no outs, the deal

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Speaker 7: is to get the runner over, they still shift on

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Speaker 7: the right handed hitter. You know, you could push the

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Speaker 7: ball and probably get a double if you get it,

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Speaker 7: you know, trickle into the outfield, and they still they

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Speaker 7: still shift him up the middle. I don't get it.

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Speaker 7: They don't. They must not think the guy's gonna hit

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Speaker 7: the other way, right, But the shifting, you know, you know,

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Speaker 7: balls that are just regularly hit, you know, just forget

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Speaker 7: about the matchups, forget about the red left of your righty.

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Speaker 7: Lots of times you know they are right the ball.

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Speaker 7: The ball will go up the middle or just slightly

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Speaker 7: to the left or the right of second base. More

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Speaker 7: balls go there than probably trying to slice it through

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Speaker 7: the right side or the left side. But what I'm saying,

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Speaker 7: if you can do that, and a lot of major

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Speaker 7: to do that more because you know it's easy base hit,

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Speaker 7: the run scores and your team takes advantage of it.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what the difference is between doing that

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Speaker 7: and pulling the ball last.

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Speaker 5: On Saturday Night, the Dodgers got to Christopher Sanchez in

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Speaker 5: the sixth, they chase him and they get to that

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Speaker 5: Phillies bullpen in that seventh inning with the three run

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Speaker 5: home run from tay Oscar Hernandez. Quite frankly, he had

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Speaker 5: a lot of making up to do to ta Oscar Hernandez.

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Speaker 5: He had that ball that he had a curious route

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Speaker 5: to in right center field in the second inding in

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Speaker 5: which JT. Real Muto had a two run triple there,

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Speaker 5: and that was an interesting defensive play. But we shouldn't

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Speaker 5: be shot because ta Oscar Hernandez hasn't been the greatest

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Speaker 5: of defensive right fielders this season.

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Speaker 6: There's been a lot of questionable plays.

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Speaker 7: He dropped the one on the line, yeah, coming to.

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Speaker 5: The absolutely that ball in Game two against the Cincinnati Reds.

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Speaker 5: Seeing a lot of that this year. But he makes

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Speaker 5: up for it with that three run home run, uh

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Speaker 5: in that ninth or the seventh Inny. And here he

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Speaker 5: is postgame Saxie with our own David Vasse celebrating what

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Speaker 5: was a huge home run.

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Speaker 2: Can you just talk about how emotional you were around

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Speaker 2: in the bases and coming back to the dugout, you

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Speaker 2: quiteted this very loud place.

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Speaker 7: You know, Uh it was loud.

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Speaker 9: It was Sanchez was was dealing un built for him.

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Speaker 9: That situation is just trying to get something up in

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Speaker 9: the in the strike zone. I wasn't trying to hit

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Speaker 9: a homer. I was trying to put a good swing

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Speaker 7: What as it? How good?

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Speaker 8: A bad?

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Speaker 9: And just you know what, the big big swing comes

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Speaker 2: When you hit it, did you believe that it was

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Speaker 2: going over the wall.

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Speaker 9: It was a good swing. I feel I feel like

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Speaker 9: like like I hit it really good. It was gonna

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Speaker 9: be maybe a home or a double off the wall,

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Speaker 9: So thank god it was a home.

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Speaker 2: Tay Oscar, What is it about the playoffs that brings

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Speaker 2: out the best in you and Keik? How did you

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Speaker 2: guys keep your poise tonight in such a hostile environment.

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Speaker 9: You know, I like this, I like the pressure. I

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Speaker 9: like when when this moment is it's it's just going on.

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Speaker 9: So I don't know, I get ready the same thing.

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Speaker 9: I prepare him the same way. It doesn't matter how

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Speaker 9: the game is or how important it is. But you

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Speaker 9: know it just it just happened.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go. You were standing next to

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Speaker 2: Otani when Roki Sasaki was closing out the game. What

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Speaker 2: were you guys saying to each other? And how big

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Speaker 2: is Rokie? Now?

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Speaker 6: For you?

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Speaker 9: You know, we were trying to call all the pitches

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Speaker 9: that he was gonna throw in last Todays, so you know,

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Speaker 9: strengs will help him like mental uh and you know,

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Speaker 9: I'm starting to give this a poil that he needs

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Speaker 9: to get the three outs.

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Speaker 2: Ta Oscar, I'm not very smart, but I know this.

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Speaker 2: You can't spell October without tail.

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Speaker 10: I thank you?

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Speaker 6: Was it all right?

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Speaker 5: You can't spell October with aut t e O, ta

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Speaker 5: Oscar Hernandez. I mean, at one point I tweeted during

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Speaker 7: He did. And you know, you talk about all the

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Speaker 7: Start this narrative, Tim. The big plus in Game one

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Speaker 5: I love how Dave Roberts was piecing it together and

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Speaker 7: Of course, I mean, of course you have. And this

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Speaker 7: This is amazing. Remember this is what Oral did. Oral

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Speaker 7: did the same thing when he came out of the

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Speaker 7: bullpen to beat the Mets. Mets beat us eleven or

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Speaker 7: twelve game, ten of eleven games in that season, and

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Speaker 7: we had to do anything that we could to beat

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Speaker 7: them in postseason, which we did in seven games, and

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Speaker 7: part of that was oral coming out of the bullpen

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Speaker 7: and shutting it down. What a huge compliment for these

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Speaker 7: guys to do it. And you know they have no

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Speaker 7: no qualms about coming out there and loading it up

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Speaker 7: and doing that. And I'll tell you about Glass Now,

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Speaker 7: stuff was wicked. I mean, his his his arsenal is tremendous.

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Speaker 7: I mean just the two pitches in and of themselves,

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Speaker 7: the fastball and the curveball are are plus plus. Both

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Speaker 7: of them are. And you know that's that's tough for

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Speaker 7: hitters to deal with.

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Speaker 5: Eight six six nine, eight seven two five seventy. He

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Speaker 5: is Steve Sacks. I am Tim Kase. Want you to

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Speaker 5: be a part on the show this morning. Is the

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Speaker 5: Dodgers a one nothing series lead in this NLDS Game

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Speaker 5: two coming up later this afternoon from Philadelphia. It is

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Speaker 5: a great pitching matchup with hayesus Lozardo, the veteran leftander

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Speaker 5: going up against snell Zilla. Blake Snell making his postseason

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Speaker 5: well NLDS debut here in Game two, and the Dodgers

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Speaker 5: need him big to be snell Zilla tonight against his

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Speaker 5: Philadel for you offense. We'll hear from Blake Snell coming

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Speaker 5: up at the eight o'clock Cowery, want to hear from

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Speaker 5: you next eight sixty six nine eighty seven two five seventy.

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Speaker 5: How you feeling after Game one and going into Game two?

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Speaker 5: Eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. He

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Speaker 5: is Steve Sacks, I am Tim Kates. Thanks for being

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Speaker 5: with us on this Monday morning here in Los Angeles

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Speaker 5: on Anti seventy LA Sports Sax and Kate to the am.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for being with us on this Monday morning as

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Speaker 5: a Dodgers say one oh series lead in the best

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Speaker 5: of five n LTS. They're in Philadelphia later on today

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Speaker 5: for Game two at Citizens Bank Park. Blake Snell and

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Speaker 5: Jes sus Lozardo the pitching matchup and the Dodgers a

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Speaker 5: one oh series lead after the three run home run

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Speaker 5: from Taoscar Hernandez helped the comeback win for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: Six really good innings from show. Hey O Tony, We'll

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Speaker 5: get to your phone calls in just a second. Eight

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Speaker 5: six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. Got one line,

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Speaker 5: hope if you want to jump on board, Saxy I'm

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Speaker 5: going back and looking at sho Heotani's game log for

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Speaker 5: this year, and it's just a reminder because I wanted

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Speaker 5: to go back and see when did he actually make

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Speaker 5: that first start and where was the build up, because

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Speaker 5: that's what it was, a build up to October. And

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Speaker 5: back when the season started, everybody was kind of penciling

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Speaker 5: in shoe Heotani as one of the five starters in

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Speaker 5: the rotation, and when he wasn't in the rotation to

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Speaker 5: start the season, and he was that designated hitter for

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Speaker 5: the first two and a half almost three months, there

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Speaker 5: was everybody wondering where's Otani? Why isn't he pitching? And

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Speaker 5: the process was a build up to get to October,

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Speaker 5: and why start the build up in April? Why started

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Speaker 5: in May when you could have it start in June?

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Speaker 5: And when he did it in June. Back on June

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Speaker 5: sixteenth against the Padres at Dodger Stadium, we were out

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Speaker 5: there for that game on that Monday night. He went

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Speaker 5: one inning, he went won inning, that was it. And

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Speaker 5: then the second start against the Nationals, he went one inning.

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Speaker 5: And then the third start against the Kansas City were Oils,

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Speaker 5: he went two innings and there was that slow progression

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Speaker 5: and build up over his fourteen starts in the regular

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Speaker 5: season August September five innings, and finally that last start

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Speaker 5: against Arizona the last week of the season, he went

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Speaker 5: six shutout innings to build up for October. Now that

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Speaker 5: we look back at this plan that Otani and the Dodgers'

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Speaker 5: front office came up with, it worked out perfectly the

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Speaker 5: way they lined up his build up to this moment

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Speaker 5: in October to be at his peak ready to go.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it worked, it worked out great. But so far

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Speaker 7: has I mean, you know, he looks, he looks tremendous,

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Speaker 7: and uh, you know, the Dodgers are one of these teams,

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Speaker 7: one of the few teams that have that much dough

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Speaker 7: where they can they can pay somebody like Otani and

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Speaker 7: just bring them along slowly. And by the way, we

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Speaker 7: got plenty of other guys to, you know, to get

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Speaker 7: us to where we need to go to postseason until

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Speaker 7: we get to the point where we're really at full strength.

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Speaker 7: And that's when Otani's got the ball in the mound

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Speaker 7: and he looks amazing. His stuff. This is the best

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Speaker 7: I've seen Otani. Look, his stuff is sharp. All of

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Speaker 7: his stuff is sharp. He goes out there with an

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Speaker 7: arsenal of at least three pitches that can wipe you

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Speaker 7: out at any time, and I wouldn't be up there

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Speaker 7: taking pitches. One thing I see about Philadelphia is they're

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Speaker 7: up there taking strike one all the time. I mean

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Speaker 7: they take strike one more than probably more than any

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Speaker 7: team I've ever seen. The Yankees do it quite a

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Speaker 7: bit too. But taking strike one, why why do you

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Speaker 7: take strike one on a fastball? They're giving you a

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Speaker 7: cookie right down the middle of the plate and you

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Speaker 7: take it. I see Schwarver do it all the time,

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Speaker 7: taking that first strike. Why, I'll never know. Maybe the

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Speaker 7: first time up to really get locked in and take

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Speaker 7: that first one. As a leadoff hitter, I used to

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Speaker 7: take strike one a lot to start a game. Not

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Speaker 7: all the time, but you know most of the time.

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Speaker 7: Would But after that, I'm not taking anything, Especially a

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Speaker 7: guy that's got some shove in his game. I'm not

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Speaker 7: giving him anything. Guys like Noan Ryan, the guys could

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Speaker 7: wipe you out. Guys like this, I mean, Christopher Sanchez

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Speaker 7: got great stuff. Shohei Otani and you know, coming from

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Speaker 7: the Phillies outlook, got amazing stuff. Why are you taking

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Speaker 7: a cookie right down the middle of the plate. I

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Speaker 7: don't get it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, especially in the postseason, where every at bad is

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Speaker 5: really dissected, and you know, every out for twenty seven

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Speaker 5: outs is under a microscope.

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Speaker 6: I don't get it.

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Speaker 5: You're not playing a game in July and Cincinnati, you know,

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Speaker 5: on a Tuesday night and taking strike one against Hunter Green.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's the playoffs. You want to get ahead,

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Speaker 5: you want the advantage against the picture. You don't The

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Speaker 5: last thing you want when all these great starting pitchers

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Speaker 5: out there is to fall behind the count.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to give Blake Snell. You don't want

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Speaker 5: to give Christopher Sanchez, you don't want to give Shoe

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Speaker 5: Aotani an oh one count to let him go to work.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 7: The deal is, there's a theory, there's a method to

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Speaker 7: why they do this. Why. I'll tell you exactly why.

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Speaker 7: Because they don't mind striking out. They striking out to

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Speaker 7: them is no problem because one in five every time

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Speaker 7: I strike out, every five times I strike out, I

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Speaker 7: might click one. I might click a home run and

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Speaker 7: that's worth it. And I just I just don't get it.

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Speaker 7: I don't get it. At all. Yeah, you know, to me,

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Speaker 7: it's it's completely antithetical to the way that I would

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Speaker 7: approach it. The way I know a lot of guys

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Speaker 7: that I played with, and some guys now, some not

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Speaker 7: all teams are like this. Some guys now that they

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Speaker 7: won't take that first pitch. There's a lot of teams

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Speaker 7: that are built to slug and then they don't care

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Speaker 7: about striking out.

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Speaker 5: Well, you can make a case that the Dodgers are

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Speaker 5: one of those teams and less reliant on the slug

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Speaker 5: more so than they have over the last five to

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Speaker 5: six years, because they were really reliant on that slug

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Speaker 5: in the home run ball, but they relied on it

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Speaker 5: Saturday night, I mean three strikeouts. Sk Hernandez did not

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Speaker 5: look comfortable in the box against Christopher Sanchez, and then

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Speaker 5: a pitching Jaine Strom comes out and he crushes a

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Speaker 5: ball to right center field, and just like that, those

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Speaker 5: three strikeouts, those at bats that you know, people are going, gosh,

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Speaker 5: we're happening to tay Oscar. It's like a mess of

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Speaker 5: the plate and all is forgiven. With that three run

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Speaker 5: home run in the seventh, Andy and eight six, six, nine,

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Speaker 5: eighty seven, two five, sevens go out to the phones,

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Speaker 5: Edgar and Lamaran and start things off on this Monday morning.

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Speaker 6: How you doing, Edgar?

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Speaker 10: Hey? Good, good, Good to be with you guys against Scam.

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Speaker 10: What a great Game one? Looking good for Game two.

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Speaker 10: I really feel like the Dodgers have a great chance

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Speaker 10: to go up to zero. And I just got a

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Speaker 10: question for you guys. Can you guys just elaborate a

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Speaker 10: little bit more on how good the Dodgers pitching has

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Speaker 10: set up us rotation and Bulten for the rest of

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Speaker 10: the series after the efficient Game one. Thanks guys, all right.

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Speaker 5: Edgar, appreciate it. It's set up perfectly for the starting

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Speaker 5: rotation and for the bullpen. For the rotation. You got

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Speaker 5: Blake Snell tonight, and then you've got Yamamoto going on

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Speaker 5: Wednesday in game three. Sign me up anytime anywhere to

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Speaker 5: have Yoshinobu Yamamoto as your Game three starter.

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Speaker 6: Yes, please, I'll sign up for that.

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Speaker 5: Because if this series tied at one, perfect guy on

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Speaker 5: the mound, if the Dodgers are up two to oh,

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Speaker 5: perfect guy on the mound, just like tonight with Blake

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Speaker 5: Snell on the mound up one, oh, you need somebody

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Speaker 5: to go out there and be dominant and put Zero's

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Speaker 5: big fat Donuts up on the scoreboard. Blake Snell is

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Speaker 5: your guy with the bullpen, Steve Dave Roberts said yesterday,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna hear from him come up later, but later

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Speaker 5: on that the bullpen has been reset. You didn't use

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Speaker 5: a lot of arms down there. You used Sasaki to

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Speaker 5: close out the ninth. You had Vesia pitch to one batter,

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Speaker 5: and you had Tyler glassnew in Essen's throwing his side

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Speaker 5: session throwing inning in two thirds. You didn't touch the

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Speaker 5: rest of the bullpen. You didn't go to Blake Trinon,

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Speaker 5: you didn't use any other high leverage levers. It is

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Speaker 5: set up perfectly, Yeah, for this Dodgers team.

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Speaker 7: It is set up just right. And you know, you

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Speaker 7: don't have to look real deep down. You got enough

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Speaker 7: right now for guys that are confident, confident wise, that

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Speaker 7: are that are going good. You know, trying it is

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Speaker 7: u Vessia is uh. You know you still you still

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Speaker 7: got uh. You still got all those parts of your

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Speaker 7: bullpen that are are rested now. And I think arrest

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Speaker 7: and the fact that they're up is going to give

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Speaker 7: them more confidence. And so I look at the situation

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Speaker 7: is now. Yeah, you got Snell in game two, Yama

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Speaker 7: Mota three and glassnow and four. Ah, that's pretty darn good.

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Speaker 7: You may not be using your bullpen much.

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Speaker 5: I like the fact that you get through game one.

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Speaker 5: You didn't use a ton of arms. But the arms

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Speaker 5: that you didn't use, I look at them as an

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Speaker 5: opportunity to sit back, observe game one. Soak in the atmosphere,

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Speaker 5: fill the crowd yelling at you. Yeah, feel the negativity

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Speaker 5: beaten down on you from forty thousand Philadelphia fans. See

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Speaker 5: what your teammates did to get through it and power

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Speaker 5: through all that crowd noise there in Philadelphia. How did

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Speaker 5: Blake try and do it? How did how did Vessia

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Speaker 5: do it? How did glass Now do it? How did

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Speaker 5: Sasaki do it? That's huge to me. His guys can

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Speaker 5: sit back, absorb it all and not have the nerves

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Speaker 5: and not have that energy going and have that to

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Speaker 5: adrenaline pumping too much when they go out in the mound.

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Speaker 5: I think that was huge for them to kind of

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Speaker 5: sit back and watch this series from that bullpen perch.

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Speaker 7: Tim, here's another thing that's a little inside thing that

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Speaker 7: maybe a lot of our listeners don't know. But if

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Speaker 7: you listened to Taoscar's interview and he was talking about

651
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Speaker 7: the crowd noise and all that, remember how he said

652
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Speaker 7: he liked that he was thriving on that. There are

653
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Speaker 7: players that when when the opposition, when you're in the

654
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Speaker 7: other ballpark and they're screaming, they're screaming at you and

655
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 7: booing you and all that actually helps them play better.

656
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Speaker 7: They actually thrive on that negative response that they get

657
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 7: from the opposition, from the from the ballpark that in

658
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 7: which they're in. It's it's actually can be a really

659
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 7: good thing. The fans don't know it, but they're actually

660
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 7: helping the opposition. They're actually helping guys like Taoscar Hernandez.

661
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 7: I used to really like being in an opposing ballpark

662
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 7: and getting going to San Francisco, for instance, and getting

663
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 7: absolutely booed by every single person in there. They hated

664
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Speaker 7: me there, and mostly because I grew up in Sacramento,

665
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 7: which is pretty close to San fran and you know,

666
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 7: they look at me as a trader or something. And

667
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Speaker 7: I loved it. I love thriving on the fact that

668
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 7: they hated me. And that's that's where some of these

669
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 7: guys can actually play better. So go ahead and boom,

670
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 7: go ahead and boom. Don't don't throw, you know, the

671
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 7: stone hard cold snowballs like they did at Sandy Claus

672
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 7: on Christmas Day a long time ago. But but you

673
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 7: can anything short of that. Go ahead because it actually

674
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 7: helps a lot of guys, and this.

675
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Speaker 5: Dodgers team thriving on that. On Saturday night with a

676
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Speaker 5: five to three win in Game one, Bob and Grover Beach,

677
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Speaker 5: California joins us now here on Saxon Kate to the

678
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Speaker 5: am St Sacks team, Kates on.

679
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Speaker 6: This Monday morning, How you doing, Bob, Good morning.

680
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Speaker 11: Good morning guys. Hey, A big fan of both years

681
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 11: and just WNDY like you know, Saxy grew up in

682
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 11: the late seventies eighties watching the Daughters and you were

683
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 11: my mom's favorite player.

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Speaker 7: Gods, thanks, thank you so much.

685
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Speaker 11: Hey, question, there's some talk old weekend right before that

686
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Speaker 11: pitch tale hit Pai has sort of stuck his arm

687
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Speaker 11: out a little bit, and even Ben Verlanders sort of

688
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 11: called out Strom and trom kind of respondency. No, I didn't,

689
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Speaker 11: I don't know what do you think he was maybe

690
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Speaker 11: doing something?

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Speaker 1: All right?

692
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Speaker 5: Appreciate it, Bob, There was a video of the home

693
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Speaker 5: run from tae Oscar Hernandez off of Strom and Strom

694
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Speaker 5: is on the mound, the glove is open and exposed

695
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Speaker 5: to Andy pie Has at second base, and pie Has

696
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Speaker 5: right before the pitch extends his right end right arm

697
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Speaker 5: out vertically. And there are some that are, you know,

698
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Speaker 5: the super sluice on on social media, are thinking he

699
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 5: tipped the pitch. Paz saw it related quickly to Tayo,

700
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 5: and Tayo was sitting fastball on that pitch that he

701
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Speaker 5: hit out for the three run home run. Yeah, Strom

702
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 5: said he wasn't tipping the pitches, but his glove was open.

703
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 5: Pa Haz was at second base leading off. Maybe he

704
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 5: could see it through there. That's pretty good if he's

705
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 5: able to see it, relay it to Tayo and get

706
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Speaker 5: the home run. I don't think that's the case. I

707
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 5: think we're kind of looking at this and maybe dissecting

708
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 5: away too much. Of course, you break down every video

709
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Speaker 5: on social media and everybody thinks they're a baseball expert

710
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 5: at that point, Saxy, But I don't know if you

711
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 5: happen to see the replay see the video, but there

712
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 5: are some upset phillies fans and baseball fans thinking that

713
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Speaker 5: the Dodgers are getting away with something by trying to

714
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Speaker 5: steal signs.

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Speaker 7: First of all, they're not getting away with anything. It's

716
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 7: perfectly legal to still a sign that way, as long

717
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 7: as you don't use your Apple phone to do it,

718
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 7: or bang on a garbage can you know you still

719
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Speaker 7: a sign or related It's fine. I mean, there's nothing

720
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 7: wrong with that. That's part of the game. U leading

721
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 7: off for first base. Sometimes I would peek into the

722
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 7: catcher and if I saw him give location, I wouldn't

723
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Speaker 7: even have to see a sign, just location in or out.

724
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 7: I knew that it was a fastball. If I didn't

725
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 7: see him tap location, I knew that it was probably

726
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 7: an off speed pitch, and there's one to run on.

727
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 7: So it's perfectly normal and it's fair to do that.

728
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 7: It's not anything against the rules to do that. I

729
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 7: think in this instance right now, you know saying he

730
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 7: put his arm out, he could see it. You know,

731
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Speaker 7: I think it's really a stretch. I mean a big stretch.

732
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Speaker 7: A lot of guys don't want the signs. I was

733
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Speaker 7: one of those guys too. I don't if you can

734
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Speaker 7: steal a sign for me, don't tell me. I don't

735
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 7: want to know, because I want to go by the

736
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Speaker 7: way I was trained, in the way that I always hit.

737
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 7: I don't want signs because what if you're wrong. What

738
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 7: if you're wrong, you know, and I'm looking for a

739
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 7: curve ball and you're throwing fastball tohead, You're dead. You know.

740
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 7: I don't like signs, like stealing signs like that. I

741
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 7: just go by the you know, the competition between the

742
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Speaker 7: pitcher and myself and leave it at that.

743
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Speaker 5: This gained a little bit of momentum Saturday night and

744
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 5: yesterday Saxy this whole PA has tipped the pitch to

745
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: Tayo who hit the three run home run. It kind

746
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 5: of got squashed and lost momentum as far as social

747
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 5: media buzz and people trying to think that this was something.

748
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: When Strom came out on Twitter yesterday and responded to

749
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Speaker 5: Ben Verlander, who works for Fox And as a podcaster

750
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 5: and Justin Verlander's brother, he says, quote Ben I gets

751
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 5: during the pot is how you make a living? Since

752
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 5: baseball didn't pan out, Oh but go watch the game

753
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 5: he meaning Pie has did the same thing on different pitches.

754
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 5: Oh and if you know ball, you know I've had

755
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 5: my hands up the better part of a decade and

756
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 5: have fingers together for all pitches end quote, so strom

757
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 5: quick to put the bread any kind of pitching, tipping

758
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 5: allegations or stealing of signs from A and PAE has

759
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: so again that kind of lost some steam yesterday. It

760
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 5: was something I was actually ready to get into this morning,

761
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 5: but saw it kind of die out and fills all

762
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 5: out the whole conspiracy theory, which again I think we're

763
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 5: looking into everything now, and I guess that's part of

764
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 5: the social media age of twenty twenty five saxonies. We

765
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 5: want to look at everything and why did this go wrong? Hey,

766
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 5: couldn't have just been the guy was better than the

767
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 5: picture for.

768
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Speaker 7: One pick, I got it. Maybe the guy hit a

769
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Speaker 7: home run.

770
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 5: No, no, something wrong, No no, no, he tipped the pitch,

771
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 5: he did something.

772
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 7: Okay.

773
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 6: That's that's what we're looking for every single time.

774
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 7: And that's that's why that's why I just absolutely hate

775
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 7: social media. I absolutely hate it. I don't even do

776
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 7: social I don't know how to do it. I have

777
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 7: a I have a Twitter, my daughter does it. I

778
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 7: don't do it. I don't even know what goes on there.

779
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's so it's so ridiculous, you know,

780
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 7: It's it's like, you know, going into a bar somewhere

781
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 7: you're gonna you know, if you keep going, you're eventually

782
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 7: going to run into every idiot in the world. Right,

783
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 7: it's kind of like that. You don't know who you're

784
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 7: dealing with on social media. You know, these these can

785
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 7: be nutsos. You know, why do you put any put

786
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 7: any stock in that. I don't get it. It's just

787
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 7: it's weird. No, I mean it's weird.

788
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, social media did give us the whole trash can

789
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 5: banging John Boy. Media got this uh to us after

790
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 5: the whole astros cheating scandal. So that is something positive

791
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 5: that did come out of this dissection of everything in

792
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 5: baseball via social media.

793
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 6: But there's nothing here.

794
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 5: There's a little sniffing around and trying to figure out

795
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 5: if there was some tipping from Andy Pajs, but that

796
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 5: has been put to rest by Matt Strom himself saying

797
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 5: not the case. He is Steve Sacks, I'm Tim Kates.

798
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Speaker 5: More of your phone calls coming up. Also, should Will

799
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 5: Smith start Game two tonight? Ben Roordvat's been really good

800
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 5: behind the play, but Will Smith's offense gives you something

801
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 5: that Fordy doesn't have. We'll get into it with Steve Sacks.

802
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 5: Your phone calls as well. Eight sixty six, nine eighty

803
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 5: seven to two, five seventy. David Vats joins us in

804
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Speaker 5: the seven o'clock out our Rick Monday in the eight

805
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Speaker 5: o'clock hour, Thanks for being with us on this Monday

806
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 5: morning leading up to Game two of the NLDS Live

807
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Speaker 5: at local on m FI seventy, LA Sports, Sax and

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Speaker 5: Kate toon AM on this Monday morning. Thanks for being

809
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 5: with us. We're here till nine o'clock this morning. We're

810
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 5: gonna be live and local most of the day, starting

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Speaker 5: at eleven o'clock Rogan and Rodney Petros some money takeover

812
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 5: at noon. Remember an early start two o'clock in the afternoon.

813
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 5: We got Marongo Casino Dodgers on deck. First pitch from

814
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Speaker 5: the bank in Philadelphia is at threeh eight, so in

815
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 5: early start time for Game two on the NLDS. Blake

816
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 5: Snell and Heyesus Lezardo the pitching matchup. After the Dodgers

817
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 5: took Game one five to three, be Shine Show, Hey

818
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 5: Otani's six innings of work and the three run home

819
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 5: run from Teoscar Hernandez. In that game on Saturday Night Saxony,

820
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 5: we did see Will Smith come in for the first

821
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 5: time this postseason, and he came in off the bench

822
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 5: as a pin hitter for Ben Rhardvatt and then stayed

823
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 5: in the game afterwards as the catcher behind the plate,

824
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 5: and the TV broadcast with Jeff Francore and Brian Anderson

825
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 5: on TBS, we're kind of alluding to, well, we'll see

826
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Speaker 5: how this goes, changing catcher mid stream for show Heyotany,

827
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Speaker 5: is this gonna be okay or not? Well, it turned

828
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Speaker 5: out to be a non factor because Will Smith has

829
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: caught Show Hey Otani before and you know, wasn't really

830
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 5: an issue. But they bring in Will Smith for his

831
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 5: offense off the bench, and he didn't provide any offense

832
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 5: off the bench. He was zero for two with a

833
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 5: run scored, struck out twice in this game. Now they're

834
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 5: thinking Will Smith Game two, and Dave Roberts was asked

835
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 5: about what is he gonna do with this catching situation?

836
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 5: Will it be Ben Rortvett or will it be Will Smith?

837
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Speaker 6: For Game two?

838
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 5: I ask you this, do you change the momentum and

839
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 5: the flow of what you've got going with Ben Rhdvatt defensively,

840
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 5: what he's done for this pitching staff just to have

841
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 5: the bat of Will Smith. But on the counterside, is

842
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 5: that is Will Smith one hundred percent? Is he gonna

843
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 5: give be that same Will Smith that you saw the

844
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: first half of the season where he was having an

845
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 5: all star year?

846
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 7: Yeah? Great, great question. I'm huge on momentum. I love that,

847
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 7: And if Will Smith is one hundred percent, I think

848
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 7: that supersedes what we've got with with Rod Vett, because

849
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 7: you know, Will Smith's a much better hitter, no question

850
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 7: about it. But again the momentum thing. If Will's not

851
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 7: one hundred percent, and even if he's not feeling it

852
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 7: right now, I think Rodvett's a safe bet. You know

853
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 7: it's worked, you know they're here, they won Game one,

854
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 7: and you know that momentum means something. So if if

855
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 7: he is one hundred percent, I got I'm gonna go

856
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 7: with Will Smith because look, he's He's had a lot

857
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 7: of momentum builders too, He's trended a lot of momentum

858
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 7: in his time. He had an absolutely magnificent year this year,

859
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 7: And I say, if he's one hundred percent, you go

860
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 7: with Will.

861
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 5: He was hitting two ninety six with a nine hundred

862
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: ops yeah, before he got hit in the hand on

863
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 5: the foul tip in Pittsburgh and basically missed the last

864
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Speaker 5: three weeks of the season. Did not play in the

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Speaker 5: first two games of the wild Card Round against the

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati Reds. Ben Roardvett has come in. There's no arguing

867
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Speaker 5: what he has done. Defensively, He's been fantastic. With him

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Speaker 5: behind the plate, the Dodgers starters have a combined one

869
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Speaker 5: to sixty four ERA in twenty four starts, including three

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Speaker 5: postseason games. The bullpen a little bit different, you know,

871
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 5: The combined relievers in ERA near five, which is a

872
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Speaker 5: little high. But I don't put that on Ben Roardvett

873
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Speaker 5: at all. The pro of having Will Smith back is

874
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Speaker 5: certainly the offense and what he can do to the lineup.

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Speaker 5: You know, inserting him in that lineup again is another

876
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Speaker 5: cog that is a threat for this Dodgers team offensively.

877
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Speaker 5: Ben Roardvett necessarily is not a threat offensively. If you're

878
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Speaker 5: gonna bat him nine now, he can be productive. He

879
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 5: can bun a guy over, he can hit and run,

880
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Speaker 5: and he could do something and do whatever he is

881
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: asked of him. Is offense weighed more than defense at

882
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 5: this point with blake'snell on the mound, really, in my mind,

883
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 5: it must win Game two to really put your foot

884
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Speaker 5: on the Philadelphia Afillies in this best of five series.

885
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 5: Is defense outweighing offense? Or does offense outweigh defense in

886
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Speaker 5: tonight's game, not overall, not in the series or the

887
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Speaker 5: whole postseason. In this game tonight, Steve sacks, what do

888
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 5: you think defense or offense?

889
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Speaker 7: Well? Will Smith's a good defensive player too, you know,

890
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 7: so I don't think you're losing. You know that what

891
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 7: you're gaining with Ben road Vett is that you know

892
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Speaker 7: he's he's winning. The team is winning with him, right,

893
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 7: and momentum matters, and that's huge. That is huge, especially

894
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 7: in a short series like all these are short. I mean,

895
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Speaker 7: you know the match we're going to get his seven

896
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Speaker 7: game series, they're all short, and so that matters a

897
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Speaker 7: lot to me. And if Smith, if listen, if he's

898
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Speaker 7: if he's not completely healthy, and it's questionable, there's no

899
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Speaker 7: doubt I put Ben in there. If even if Smith

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Speaker 7: is healthy and he's just the ball looks like an

901
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Speaker 7: aspirin tablet to him. You know, you could still go

902
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Speaker 7: with Roardvett until he's starting to feel it a little

903
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 7: bit more. Maybe he's having good practice sessions and he's

904
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Speaker 7: barreling it up more consistent. You know, I don't think

905
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Speaker 7: you're going to lose a lot by sticking with the

906
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Speaker 7: momentum builder that Ben Rodvetz put in there right now.

907
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 7: So I think it's you know, the manager's got to

908
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 7: have his finger to the pulse, and Dave Roberts knows

909
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Speaker 7: it better than anybody.

910
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 5: I wonder what the left hand or too, And hey,

911
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Speaker 5: sus Lezardo, if it tips in favor of Will Smith

912
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 5: catching tonight because he's the right handed bat as opposed

913
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Speaker 5: to Ben Roardvatt, the left handed bat. On the flip

914
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Speaker 5: side of that, you know, I mean, it's not like

915
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Speaker 5: you're going to say Ben Rodvatt's bat for a pin

916
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Speaker 5: shitting ability late in the game when you know, right

917
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Speaker 5: Hendry comes in because he's such a thread offensively, he's

918
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Speaker 5: not that kind of weapon. But Will Smith, on the

919
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Speaker 5: other hand, to have that bat ready to go again fifth, sixth,

920
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Speaker 5: seventh in a pinch it situation could be exactly what

921
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Speaker 5: the Dodgers need let's we'se in a phone call real quick,

922
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Speaker 5: Art in Montclair, Thanks for being patient. Welcome to Saxon

923
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Speaker 5: Katesonay am I doing art.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good running guys. Oh way, I just want

925
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: to call and talk about an observation. I saw Alfred

926
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: Tayl's home run and it was great to see. It

927
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Speaker 3: was the pass on and the excitement that all the

928
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Speaker 3: Dodgers were showing, including Dave Roberts. I mean, they were

929
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Speaker 3: all up in the dog out or it's on their

930
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Speaker 3: arms in the air. Tyl was out with his arms

931
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Speaker 3: up in the air, and then when he came to

932
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Speaker 3: the degout Thursday, Roberts with his arm in the air.

933
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Speaker 3: That was totally awesome to see that in the playoffs

934
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Speaker 3: from the Dodgers. I mean, my goodness, I was so

935
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Speaker 3: happy to see that. All the teams showed the pest

936
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Speaker 3: and the excitement, but the Dodgers is shout up like that.

937
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Speaker 3: That was great to see and I just hope they

938
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Speaker 3: continue with that push, no doubt.

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Speaker 6: Oh god, guys, all right, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: It kind of felt like the momentum swung back in

941
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Speaker 5: their favor certainly, but they kind of popped the top

942
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Speaker 5: off of what was a slow offense through six inning Saxy,

943
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Speaker 5: So that breakthrough moment was probably more excitement of we

944
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Speaker 5: did it. We got through Sanchez, we took the lead.

945
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Speaker 5: Let's finish this thing off.

946
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's it. Get get through that starter and put

947
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Speaker 7: a whipping on that bullpen. That's that's what the Dodgers'

948
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Speaker 7: goal is going to be again in this next game.

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Speaker 6: He and Steve Sacks.

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Speaker 5: I am Tim Kats one hour down, two to go

951
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Speaker 5: on this Monday morning, Thanks for being with us bright

952
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Speaker 5: and early. As the Dodgers get ready for a game

953
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Speaker 5: two tonight against the Phillies. Blake Snell, Hey, sus Lozardo.

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Speaker 5: The pitching matchup Morongo Casino, Dodgers on deck at two,

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Speaker 5: first pitch at three to oh eight, coming up. David

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Speaker 5: Vasse joins us in about thirty minutes. Rick Monday will

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Speaker 5: join us in the eight o'clock hour. We'll hear from

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Speaker 5: Dave rob we'll hear from Blake Snell, and I want

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Speaker 5: to hear from you. Eight sixty six nine eight seven

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Speaker 5: two five seventy. How big does this start? For Blake Snell?

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Speaker 5: They got him for a reason, and that was October baseball.

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Speaker 5: They need Blake Snell to be snell Zilla. Tonight on

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Speaker 5: the Mound eight sixty six, nine eighty seven two five seventy.

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Speaker 5: He is Steve Sacks. I'm Tim Kates. It's Sax and

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Speaker 5: Kate's at am on m FI seventy l A Sports