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Speaker 1: Hey, Lisa Fox here. This is our iHeart so Cal Show,

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Speaker 1: or show that puts a.

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Speaker 2: Spotlight on charitable organizations, nonprofits and people giving back, and

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Speaker 2: Boyd and folks pulled together to give back big time.

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Speaker 2: We are fresh off another big concert at iHeartRadio and

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Speaker 2: one of four three MIFM hosted at Marongo Casino Resort

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Speaker 2: and SPA last weekend. And honestly, every intimate concert that

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Speaker 2: we host there we raise money.

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Speaker 1: For the charity for a charity of the artist's choice.

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Speaker 2: So this time we raise our fourteen thousand dollars for

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Speaker 2: Chris Dawtrey, the band Dawtrees Chosen charity. The American Foundation

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Speaker 2: for Suicide Prevention and organization founded back in the eighties

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Speaker 2: with a mission to save lives and bring hope to

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Speaker 2: those affected by a suicide like Chris and his family.

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Speaker 2: So it's also the largest private funder of suicide prevention research.

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Speaker 1: So we want to dive into all of it.

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Speaker 2: Their website, by the way, AFSP dot org. But let's

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Speaker 2: chat with their executive director. She's the executive director of

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Speaker 2: the LA and Central Coast chapter. Jocelyn Skelton. Hi, Jocelyn,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? Thank you so much for having us and again,

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Speaker 3: thank you for this incredible opportunity. And I mean, we

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Speaker 3: are just so excited about raising a fourteen thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: for our mission.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that can do a lot in the ways.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we're going to talk about how your organization

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Speaker 2: helps people deal with this. I mean, it's a terrible topic,

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Speaker 2: but we have to talk about it because.

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Speaker 1: People who are having feelings need.

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Speaker 2: To know that there is help available and there's so

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Speaker 2: many ways to get this help and how you may

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Speaker 2: be feeling and what your brain is telling you this

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Speaker 2: all we can talk about this and we can.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully help make it better. A there's so many ways

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Speaker 1: to make it better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, and I think that that's something

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Speaker 3: you know, suicide is so scary to talk about, or

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Speaker 3: want to plant seeds in somebody's heads. Sure, Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: that's one of the things that our research and our

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Speaker 3: programs you know, really start trying to do is getting

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Speaker 3: out into the community just to teach people how to

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Speaker 3: talk about it, how to recognize it, you know. And

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Speaker 3: those are the things that we're doing in order to

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Speaker 3: really try to prevent, you know, suicides within our communities.

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Speaker 2: Now, the numbers are the stats are still pretty shocking

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Speaker 2: the number of people who attempt to take their lives

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Speaker 2: each year just in America alone, and then and then

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Speaker 2: then the people that actually do it.

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Speaker 1: It's just so off, Like it's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Make me emotional because I just feel so bad that

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Speaker 4: people feel like that's the only answer, you know, So like,

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Speaker 4: how do we how do we where do we start

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Speaker 4: how they feel, we can help them feel better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's the goal. Let us try,

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Speaker 1: Let us try. You're not alone in these feelings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. I think one of the things that

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Speaker 3: American Foundation does so well is our programming, and so

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Speaker 3: that's through Talk Saves Lives, which we have several different

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Speaker 3: Talk Safe Lives that focus on different areas or that's

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Speaker 3: middle schoolers, high school, college age veterans. We even have

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Speaker 3: Hard Hats for Courage program that's focused on construction workers

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Speaker 3: because they have a very high suicide rate. So being

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Speaker 3: men die by suicide three point eight times more often

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Speaker 3: to start thinking about well, then how do we change

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Speaker 3: Women tend to talk about a lot of stuff, but

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Speaker 3: we're really noticing in men, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We are chatty, that's true.

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Speaker 3: And then the same with what's happening right now in

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Speaker 3: It's very so much, but I do think that we

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Speaker 3: more just about not being afraid to open up that

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Speaker 3: You know, That's something that I learned in our healing

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Speaker 3: Conversations program that we have is not to be afraid

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Speaker 3: have you sought out a plan? And if they say yes,

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Speaker 3: you know, our nine eight eight crisis line you can

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Speaker 2: But why did I feel like government cuts affected this number?

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Speaker 2: But no, so nine eight eight still works. If you're

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Speaker 2: it still works.

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Speaker 3: It is something that we work very hard to advocate for.

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Speaker 3: That is part of our public policy that we advocate for.

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Speaker 3: And again, you can call for yourself or a friend

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Speaker 3: and that is not you know, linked with any kind

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Speaker 3: of you know, serious I think some people think, oh,

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Speaker 2: Got it, So, like you know, four one one and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's powerful because sometimes people maybe in a place

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Speaker 2: You're hear you people that love you, You matter, and

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Speaker 2: a few years ago at the age of twenty five.

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Speaker 2: So he pours his heart and all his justugh, just

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Speaker 2: trying to grasp it and understand it and then deal

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Speaker 2: with the grief after losing someone that you love so much,

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Speaker 2: that you're so close to to this terrible thing called suicide.

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Speaker 2: But so grateful Chris connected with with you guys, and

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Speaker 2: so many fans onlies who are going through this know

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Speaker 2: that they can connect with the American Foundation for SUS

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Speaker 2: that prevention and get help getting through this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we have many people reach out to

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Speaker 3: us because we do have an incredible loss and healing

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Speaker 3: program as well. You know, one of the things that

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Speaker 3: I've always found so beautiful about that program is when

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Speaker 3: you do reach out, they try to find somebody who

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Speaker 3: has gone through something similar. So if you lost a mother,

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Speaker 3: if you lost a stepdaughter, a daughter, they actually try

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Speaker 3: to connect you with somebody who has gone through something

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Speaker 3: exactly the same or very similar in losing a parent

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Speaker 3: or a child. Sure, because I think sometimes just having

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Speaker 3: somebody else there that gets it. You know, it's losing

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Speaker 3: a child versus losing a sibling versus losing a parent.

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Speaker 3: They're all very different levels of grief. Not that one

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Speaker 3: is worse than their other, they are all.

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Speaker 1: Terrible different type.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a different type. And so when you're

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Speaker 3: there and you can talk to somebody who has gone

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Speaker 3: through the same loss. Again, like I said, there is

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Speaker 3: power in community. And I think that that's one thing

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Speaker 3: that AFSP has done such a great job of is

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Speaker 3: really trying to bring those communities together to where you

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Speaker 3: can start to figure out how to heal. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: and and healing doesn't mean that it's you don't feel it,

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Speaker 3: because it's I don't think that ever goes away.

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Speaker 2: That's how you start the process of maybe even just

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Speaker 2: processing what happened and how to handle.

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Speaker 3: It, processing of honoring even you know sometimes you know,

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Speaker 3: AFSP gives people that opportunity to honor their loved ones

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Speaker 3: and highlight them in beautiful ways. Man are out of

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Speaker 3: the darkness. Walk the men and the women who have

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Speaker 3: come out and have shared their stories of their loved ones.

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Speaker 3: It is just an absolutely beautiful day of just healing

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Speaker 3: and again that power of community is just so impactful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just being there for each other. Being there

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Speaker 2: for each other is everything. And you know, the last

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Speaker 2: time I did a show about this, it was after

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Speaker 2: Chester Bennington took his life and that was such a

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Speaker 2: Some of people loved his music and we're fans for

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Speaker 2: so so long, and for him to do that was like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Wait, why why?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just whether it's someone you know or you

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Speaker 2: don't know, but knowing this community is here for you

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Speaker 2: and that people other people are going through this very

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Speaker 2: real loss and we just want to do what we

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Speaker 2: can to open up the door, open up the conversation.

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Speaker 2: And that's what organization is all about.

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Speaker 1: Again. You can reach out to.

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Speaker 2: That if you want to work with them and have

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Speaker 2: them come out and help do a talk at your

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Speaker 2: school or your church, whatever group you feel.

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Speaker 1: This conversation is necessary.

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Speaker 2: It's also just about not being afraid, right like you said,

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Speaker 2: Johnson said, not to be afraid to broach it, not

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Speaker 2: to be afraid to share with people that there are tools,

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Speaker 2: there are ways that we can help you, help you

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Speaker 2: feel better and give you an outlet people to talk

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Speaker 2: to you. They're waiting for you at the ninety eight

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Speaker 2: the phone number nine to eight you can call or text.

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Speaker 1: You can text talk to.

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Speaker 2: Seven four one seven four one, that's talk t alk

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Speaker 2: to seven four one seven for one. Or go to

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Speaker 2: their website, the American Foundation of Suicide Prevention and see

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Speaker 2: about all their programs, like John's been saying, all the

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Speaker 2: ways that they can help. I love the area where

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Speaker 2: you have people sharing their stories right that the Real

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Speaker 2: Stories Blog so.

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Speaker 1: Compelling what people have to share. You are not alone.

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Speaker 2: And if you feel like you have a friend or

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Speaker 2: know someone or a coworker who's going through something that

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Speaker 2: seems you know, a little dark, a little heavy, they're retreating,

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Speaker 2: they're regressing, maybe give it you know what, and reach

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Speaker 2: out and say, hey.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, what's going on? Can I help it? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: All this help line is out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we you know, we have those prevention programs again,

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Speaker 3: like I said that Talk Safe Lives that you know,

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Speaker 3: Highlight Veterans, Highlight Teams, our LATINX Community, LGBTQ plus we

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Speaker 3: have all those different programs in order to kind of

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Speaker 3: just get out in front of people, you know, before

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Speaker 3: it becomes a crisis. And that's really where what we

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Speaker 3: are focused on all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Jon Joson Skelton, thank you so much for for

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Speaker 2: all that you and your team there does again all

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Speaker 2: the information the American Foundation for Suiticide Prevention right through

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Speaker 2: on their.

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Speaker 1: Website a f SP dot org.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you and thank you for caring so much

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Speaker 2: about people and wanting to make a difference in this

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Speaker 2: and making sure people know that help and hope is

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Speaker 2: just a text phone call away, right yeah, j Aucen,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much, so much for having us