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Speaker 1: and we got Ron Ron Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome, Thank you. Gary. Yes, you've been a help to.

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Speaker 3: Me for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Very good.

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Speaker 3: Not directly, just in directly. So well, I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: what I have inside my house where a brick fireplace

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Speaker 3: I've looked up whether it's effervescence, it work florescence, ye know, efluorescence. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Well I scraped it all, wire, scrubber, did all that.

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Speaker 3: It's just in certain spots, not the whole fireplace, but

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Speaker 3: mostly it's right where you would have the flud going

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Speaker 3: been used for five years. Uh So I cleaned it

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Speaker 3: all off, did some tsp different things, soap and water,

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Speaker 3: what's the best.

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Speaker 1: Well one, So efflorescence is moisture that's reacting with the

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Speaker 1: anything along those lines are subjects. So what that's telling

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Speaker 1: though this is showing up on the inside. There's what

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Speaker 1: it starts this whole efflorescence, you know process. Now, that's

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Speaker 1: one way moisture gets in there. The other way is

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Speaker 1: the brick and the mortar outside maybe is uncealed and

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Speaker 1: it's absorbing water and it's getting in there, and the

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Speaker 1: same process occurs. The third way would be the flashing

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Speaker 1: moisture to find its way to that same area, creating

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Speaker 1: So you're going to have to get some out there

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Speaker 1: to inspect that chimney, I think is what I would do, okay,

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Speaker 3: Okay, So maybe I think that's something. I'd had a

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean the moisture isn't soaking in.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank You're quite welcome. Thank you. Take care all right

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Speaker 4: Thank you for taking a call. Sir, you be appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: What the problem is, I have a driveway's older driveway,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, you can certainly clean it up

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Speaker 1: if it's fresh oil. There's a couple of things that

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Speaker 1: sprinkling that on air, graining it down into the spot.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we'll remove it, let's see. Another thing might be

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Speaker 1: down liquid soap, putting that on their scrubbing it may

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Speaker 1: remove it. Once oil penetrates down into the capillary's Elmer,

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Speaker 1: it's there. You know, it's going to require stronger stuff

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Speaker 1: that actually eats the oil and dissolves the oil. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you two products. One of them

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Speaker 1: It's called crud cutter and it's k R U D

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Speaker 1: k U T T e R and it's oil spot remover.

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Speaker 1: It is a liquid. You pour it on and it

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Speaker 1: absorbs the moisture, eats the in turns white and then

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty effective.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I have a comment if it's okay, And and

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Speaker 4: what it is is I do rentals in in Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, on the sighting, Uh, you know, I had

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Speaker 4: Well anyway, you know, I'm a patient person. By a

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Speaker 2: Wait a few more.

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Speaker 4: Weeks and it's looked great.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, it's a goofy product.

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Speaker 4: Didn't but it's very but it's very effective though with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And then another comment on the uh on the chimney

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Speaker 4: used a product called Thorst and brush brush said on

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Speaker 4: But anyway, I appreciate your time and thank you for

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Speaker 1: Thank you quite welcome. Thank you. Take care going back,

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Speaker 1: and I've just been just a second here putting that

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Speaker 1: thrusty on it, which is just it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: dry lock only it was a powder you mixed with water. Excellent, excellent,

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Speaker 1: excellent product. However, it gets a lot of weather up

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Speaker 1: there top of the chimney, right. I mentioned a website

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Speaker 1: it was for the paint and peel product removing soot.

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Speaker 1: They also make a crown wash protected and it's a gosh,

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Speaker 1: what's it like. It's like a real heavy it's almost

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Speaker 1: like a driveway coating, but it's gray. It's even a

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Speaker 1: little thicker in that. It's it's an elastic less a

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Speaker 1: Meerrit coating, waterproof Patrick crack. If there's a crack and

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Speaker 1: you put that on there, and I think the life

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Speaker 1: getting up there and putting that on every couple of years,

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Speaker 1: which is fine. Uh, But if you're looking for something

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Speaker 1: longer and more substantial and gonna do it yourself, chimneyrx

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Speaker 1: dot com and the elastimeric coating for a crownwash is excellent.

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon, Gary. Yes, sir, I have a thirty x

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Speaker 5: forty two story wooden pole barn, all right, and the

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Speaker 5: And wonder if there's something I could put on there

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Speaker 5: to kind of like seal it.

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Speaker 1: Well, there certainly is. I mean, you can use a spar,

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Speaker 1: tell you what's happened is exactly what you suspect. You know,

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Speaker 1: rain got on it. It probably puddled or the osb's

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Speaker 1: it's just breaking that down to a point. When it

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. You know, you're going to protect

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Speaker 5: Okay. My second question is when they build it, they

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Speaker 5: to have catch basins put around it. But my humidity

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Speaker 5: and of course everything in there RUSS. So I'm kind

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Speaker 5: of considering looking for a commercial grade dehumidifier.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's going to be a big one though, isn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a big one. So where do

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Speaker 1: you know, moisture can come from all kinds of places.

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Speaker 1: It can be quite honestly. It could be compensation during

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Speaker 1: temperature changes from inside outside depending on insulation. Or it

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Speaker 1: could be just a high water table like you spoke

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Speaker 1: of before, where it's just rising up and you know

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Speaker 1: it doesn't come in the building, but there's a tremendous

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Speaker 1: amount of water vapor that's coming through the floors. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of place where that moisture could be

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Speaker 1: coming from. Where do you suspect it to be?

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Speaker 5: Well, when they put the slab in, I found out

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Speaker 5: they didn't put a vapor barrier out there.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 2: I had help there.

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Speaker 1: I can help there a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So I had a company come out and they used

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Speaker 5: could they could tell there's water under the slab.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or even in the slab, you know. So So

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Speaker 1: there's a product I'm sure you've heard of it. I've

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Speaker 1: talked about it often called dry lock. Dry lock never

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Speaker 1: had It was mainly used for basement walls, cross spaces

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Speaker 1: out with dry lock for floors. It is a coating.

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Speaker 1: It can actually function as a vapor barrier. Last week

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Speaker 6: But how do I clean it? How do I clean

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Speaker 6: It just you know, I don't know when they've ever

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, window.

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Speaker 1: So their website is Jaws Jaws Cleans dot com and

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Speaker 1: glass cleaners, hardwood floor cleaners. They got all this. That

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Speaker 1: It a world. I'll wait for the full report.

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Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. Thank you. Take care all right. Well

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Speaker 1: We spoke of Korea so several times today and I

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Speaker 1: guess you know, quite honestly a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: and usually kreosode build up in the chimney comes into

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Speaker 1: slow and it's going to create more chriss. So you

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Speaker 1: want hot fires. You want good airflow because if it

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Speaker 1: cleans the liner of the chimney, cleans the glass. Window

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Speaker 1: brushing removes some of it, but not all of it

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Speaker 1: Don't try and burn it off because again you're going

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Speaker 1: all right, Debbie, welcome.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Yes are you Gary?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing fine, Thanks, I have a.

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Speaker 6: Ninety My house is built nineteen sixty one, and I

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Speaker 5: You've seen them a million times, right, and they're sticky

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Speaker 5: and I want to clean them really really good.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the Millsick that we talk about. It'll

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Speaker 6: How do you sell about Garrett?

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Speaker 1: It's m I L s e K. I saw some

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Speaker 1: have it. The beautiful thing with that, Debbie, is it

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Speaker 1: cleans it And in our kitchen we have oils, of course,

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Speaker 1: We've got all kinds of things. So it's one of

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Speaker 1: the few products that actually removes any wax build up

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Speaker 1: It's awesome stuff, all right, very good.

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Speaker 2: It contains no silicones.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. Contains no silicones or wax, so it won't

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Speaker 5: That is great. Thank you, Gary. I appreciate your program,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Debbie, appreciate it all right. So

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ten years old, invented by a Hungarian

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Speaker 1: of gunk off cabnetry. It does an excellent, excellent job.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break in Ron. You'll be

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Speaker 1: to Ron. Ron.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Oh Gary, good to speak with you again.

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Speaker 7: You have a couple of questions on putting in a

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Speaker 7: concrete driveway. I know that the only thing that you

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Speaker 7: can actually guarantee about concrete is that it's going to

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Speaker 7: crack and break.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I.

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Speaker 2: Question, or my question is if you use mesh, well

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Speaker 2: placed greebar and expansion joints the way they should be used,

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Speaker 2: can you minimize that cracking or possibly do away with it?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Well, the reason you can never do away with

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Speaker 1: it as you're out of control after your four inches

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Speaker 1: below that concrete. Because you know it's mother nature and

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Speaker 1: we see in the news about sinkholes and you know

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Speaker 1: all kinds of things. The Earth's always changing to a degree.

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Speaker 1: But your point is valid, you know, it's it's like

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Speaker 1: everything else that we talk about on this show, and

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Speaker 1: that is preparation is the key. So building that driveway

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Speaker 1: is the key to minimizing cracking and damage to the driveway.

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Speaker 1: So you know, in very basic terms, having you know,

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Speaker 1: the salt compacted, having four inches of gravel in there,

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Speaker 1: having you said rebar in some places that's fine, wire

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Speaker 1: mesh excellent, wouldn't go without it. H And now they'll

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Speaker 1: do the salt cuts or the expansion joints in there

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Speaker 1: to give it a little bit of flexibility because we

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Speaker 1: know there's going to be some settling that's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: and if we cut those joints in there, that slab

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Speaker 1: can kind of move a little bit it can tilt,

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Speaker 1: and it can raise, and it can kind of float

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Speaker 1: to some degree, and if it doesn't crack all the

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Speaker 1: way across your driveway, which it would do if you

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Speaker 1: didn't have those joints. By having those joints, we can

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Speaker 1: you know, if we ran into some problem and it

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Speaker 1: started settling on one corner, we could actually get somebody

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Speaker 1: out there and do some concrete leveling or slab jacking,

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Speaker 1: Nick call where you level it up and you got

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Speaker 1: some wiggle room there too. So we're making the centers

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Speaker 1: as solid and knitted together the best we can. We've

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Speaker 1: got a little expansion joints around it, so we allow

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Speaker 1: it to move and that's the key. And then you

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Speaker 1: know the right amount of thickness would be the key.

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Speaker 1: So you know, four inch driveway at four thousand PSI

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Speaker 1: be wonderful. If you got an apron right by the street,

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Speaker 1: maybe make that six thousand psi. We don't know who's

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Speaker 1: going to turn in there, and then get that thing

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Speaker 1: sealed and you're on your way.

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Speaker 2: Right good good on duck work. Have duck work in

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Speaker 2: this house that's probably thirty years old. Okay, Metal in

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Speaker 2: the cross space up in the attic for the return

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Speaker 2: there to me looks like a large wire wrap dryer

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Speaker 2: that if we would clean the metal duckwork, can that

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Speaker 2: classic and the attic also be cleaned? Does it need

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Speaker 2: to be replaced periodically?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably cannot be cleaned, right, so you know

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Speaker 1: it if it needs to be replaced, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They might be able to run a camera in there

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Speaker 1: just to see how dirty it is for you to

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Speaker 1: see if that's you know, a need or a possibility

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Speaker 1: that it, you know, should be replaced. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a good question. But I do know that most companies

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Speaker 1: are not going to clean that. It can't be cleaned,

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Speaker 1: it's not rigid enough.

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Speaker 2: And as far as the metal duck work, I believe

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Speaker 2: I've heard you talk about after you clean and applying

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Speaker 2: some kind of a seal or to it to cut

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Speaker 2: down on the leak.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know what, that's something that really everybody

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Speaker 1: should do. So there's ways. Well, I'll give you my

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Speaker 1: house as an exact ample number number number of years ago.

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Speaker 1: There's a carrier corporation and came out with a duck

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Speaker 1: work sealant and they wanted to show it to me,

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Speaker 1: and they wanted to use it on my home, and

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Speaker 1: I was curious and I said, okay, let's let's do that.

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Speaker 1: And they came to the home and I had I

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Speaker 1: was losing by their measurements. They hooked up a computer

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Speaker 1: and a fan and all kinds of stuff. I was

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Speaker 1: losing about twenty five percent of the heated air that

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Speaker 1: I was paying for through leakage in the duck work.

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Speaker 1: That's significant, that a lot. Yeah. So then they had

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Speaker 1: this product that they had created where it was like

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Speaker 1: an aerosol, So they blocked all the registers and they

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Speaker 1: would blow this aerosol through the duck work and it

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Speaker 1: would seal the seams of the metal duckwork. They were

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Speaker 1: there all day and when they did a test at

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Speaker 1: the end, I was losing I think a sixteenth of

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Speaker 1: a ton of air, which was so great the rejection.

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Speaker 1: I forget what the percentage was, but it was like

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Speaker 1: four or five percent max. And so that that was

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Speaker 1: one thing, and the carriers sold it that particular product.

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Speaker 1: There's people that do apply a product like that, but

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Speaker 1: there's also things you can do wherever there's duck work

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Speaker 1: that is exposed, and quite honestly, a lot of the

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Speaker 1: duckwork that was exposed was terribly done. Wherever there's a joint,

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Speaker 1: if you get some aluminum tape, not duct tape, but

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Speaker 1: aluminum tape, and you wrap those seams or right above

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Speaker 1: the plundum on the furnace where the big duck comes up.

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Speaker 1: I could actually stick my finger into a hole where

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Speaker 1: they cut that metal sheet metal, and they just didn't

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Speaker 1: fit it real tight. So duckwork, you can see, can

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Speaker 1: be sealed with aluminum tape and silicon calking, right, And

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Speaker 1: I would do that. I would certainly do that. And

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Speaker 1: if you want to check out the other stuff, there's

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Speaker 1: certainly heating and cooling companies that do that still. And

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Speaker 1: you know, they, like I said, they tested to see

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Speaker 1: how much you're losing, and then you can decide whether

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Speaker 1: you want to do it or not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, I appreciate your health.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ron, thank you, thanks for the call.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate thank you.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye. So yeah, and then it's that's amazing numbers,

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Speaker 1: how much you know you can lose. And of course

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Speaker 1: where is it. It's behind the walls, maybe up in

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: the attic floor, and you can't get I mean you

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00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: can get to you can't get it behind the walls.

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Speaker 1: That's why they created this system, this aerosol I think

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Speaker 1: it's called aero seal now, and it's probably going to

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Speaker 1: cost a couple thousand bucks. But when you think about it,

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Speaker 1: I mean, so it has you know, it has a

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Speaker 1: return on investment eventually. I don't really know what it

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Speaker 1: is anymore. But if you're losing a quarter of your

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Speaker 1: heat and your air conditioning, that's sizable, and if you

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Speaker 1: can reduce it that dramatically, that's a nice site. That's

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Speaker 1: a nice savings. So in other ways, while we're just

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Speaker 1: talking about you know, pain for the energy that we're

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Speaker 1: using and wasting it because a ductwork isn't connected properly,

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Speaker 1: and some of it you can actually see and do

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that maintenance yourself, no skill involved,

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00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: other things that can make a big difference in People

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Speaker 1: joke about this all the time, but that filter is

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Speaker 1: vitally important to be changed in a timely manner. And

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Speaker 1: I had somebody and I don't really agree with this,

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Speaker 1: and they said, well, I just use the flat cheap filter.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether they less than a buck, and

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Speaker 1: I change that thing every month, and good, good good,

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Speaker 1: but I don't really want to change it once a month.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you probably always would remember, right, it'd be

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Speaker 1: a lot easier to remember than every ninety days or

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Speaker 1: every six months. There is a filter now that you

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Speaker 1: just change every six months. It's a four inch pleted filter.

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Speaker 1: But I always say, just use the one inch pleated filter.

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Speaker 1: Change it every ninety days, and if you want to

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Speaker 1: be really smart, change it between the first of November.

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Speaker 1: Let's say right now. Now, change it right now, and

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Speaker 1: then change it in sixty days the middle of January,

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Speaker 1: because our house is going to have more interior activity

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00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: and hustle and bustle than we have any other time

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Speaker 1: of the year, so it's gonna pick up more dusts,

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Speaker 1: gonna pick up more dirt. Good idea, and there you go.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of times your furnace will even have

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Speaker 1: a code read out when that filter needs to be changed.

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00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a blinking yellow light or something along those lines.

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00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it shows up on your thermostat, But just put

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Speaker 1: it on your on your calendar to change it. Pleated

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Speaker 1: filters every ninety days during the holidays, sixty days, and

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Speaker 1: then if it gets really really really really really cold,

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Speaker 1: light below zero. Another little trick there is just take

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00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: out those thicker pleated filters and then put your little

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00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: single pan cheap filter in there, just because you're going

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Speaker 1: to increase the airflow. So if that back bedroom starts

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00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: getting a little chillier than you like it, just that

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00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: flat type filter is going to allow more air to

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00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: pass through it dirty or clean than depleted filter. So

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Speaker 1: you know, just something to keep in mind. But keeping

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Speaker 1: those filters clean, keeping the ducworks seems nice and taped

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Speaker 1: and siliconized. Just no leaks in pipes period. There is

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00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: always a good idea, whether it's air or water. And

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Speaker 1: certainly you can take take that to the bank and

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00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: bank and if you can program that thermostat do so.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a little bit of a pain and

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Speaker 1: some of them are oting your phone now, no problem

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Speaker 1: at all. For every degree you minus, okay, every degree

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Speaker 1: in minus is one percent of savings. Figure it that way,

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Speaker 1: all right, Danny boy, A busy day. It was in

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Speaker 1: a fun day. Thank you for all your help. I

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Speaker 1: certainly appreciate it. Yes, sir, and good Lord willing. Danny

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Speaker 1: and I'll both be back tomorrow for more At Home

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Speaker 1: with Gary Sullivan