1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Good morning, 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: my friend, Dean Sharp, The House Whisper Here. It's just 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: about six well, actually, what is it now? It's just 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: after six o'clock. Six's oh seven ish? Yep, looks that way. 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm Dean Sharp, the House Whisper, Custom home Builder, Custom 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: home Designer, and every week, right here, right now, your 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: guide to better understand that place where you live. Whether 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: home for you is a castle or a cottage, doesn't matter, 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: matters not to me, you know why, because luxury does 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: not a great homemake. It is design that matters most. 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Good design makes all the difference. Every house deserves it, 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: every house should enjoy it, because once it's at work 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: in your home, that is when your home has a 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: path forward towards becoming a great home. And of course 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: you got to take care of your home as well. 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: And I'm here to talk to you about all of it, 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: from great architecture and design for your home, all the 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: way down to the nuts and the bolts and the 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: leaks and the squeaks that our homes, that happened in 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: our homes all the time. I'm going to help you 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: out with them all. And how do we do it 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: on a Saturday morning. We do it by just taking 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: your calls. You get to set the agenda today. The 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: number to reach me is eight three three two. Ask 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Dean eight three three the numeral two ask Dean eight 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: three three to ask Dean, it's just that simple. Whatever 28 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: has you scratching your head about your home design, construction, 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: DIY inside stuff, outside stuff, landscape decor. I got you. 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna put our heads together. We're gonna get it 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: figured out. Eight three three two ask Dean. As soon 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: as we've got calls on the board, we'll be going 33 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: to the phones. And this is the time when I 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: normally say, sitting across the table from me, my design partner, 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: my better half, my best friend in all the world, 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Tina is here, but she's not now. She was feeling 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: under the weather. We're letting Tina sleep in today, and 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: so you know what, I'm just gonna have to turn 39 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: to my studio buddies, Sam and Heather. Sam, how's it going, Bud? 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: Good morning, Dean, how you doing. 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. 42 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: I would turn on the microphone for who is sitting 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: across the table from me. But it wouldn't it wouldn't 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: help too much because it is a sleeping beagle. Oh 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: with Tina normally sits. I have Sam the beagle, so 46 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: do everybody. Just imagine Sam. He does not have his 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: headphones on. He's all curled up up. He just opened 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: one eye to look at me, like, what are you 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: talking about? 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: Buddy? 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: Uh, just go back to sleep. But it's all well. 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: So Sam's keeping me company in the studio this morning. 53 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: We're gonna see Tina later today, but not right now. 54 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: She needs a little shut eye for her. Hey, Heather, 55 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: how's it going? 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: Good? 57 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning to you. What's up. 58 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 5: I'm a I'm you know, just doing the news over here. Yeah, 59 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 5: a little multitasking today where we don't have a writer 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 5: this morning to help me out. So it's all me today. 61 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 5: You and I are both flying solo today. 62 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 2: No, what's with that? What's going on? 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 5: Doing a little bit of everything today? But that's okay. 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 5: We make it work. 65 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: So apparently half the country is frozen today, No. 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: It's not wild. I'm looking at this map and you know, 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 5: I'm originally from Oklahoma and I've been like checking on 68 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 5: my friends and family who are still there, and they're 69 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 5: just like hunkered down, you know, they're all expecting to 70 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 5: lose electricity. And it's a yeah, pretty nasty storm it is. 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: It is just just just one of the one of 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: the worst we've seen in a long time. 73 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 5: Makes you really grateful to be in Socow. 74 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: You know. 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, are there any pretty how long it's going to last. 76 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: I've heard all about it, but I haven't heard. 77 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: At least through the weekend, is what I initially heard. 78 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 5: But it could, you know, slow down, it could move 79 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 5: into middle of next week. It's hard to tell because 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 5: it's taking up such a large part of the country, 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 5: like from New Mexico to Maine, you know. I mean 82 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 5: that's just a massive swath of the country. So at 83 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 5: least through the weekend for sure. 84 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: That was the thing that surprised me, that there was 85 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: this diagonal swipe from Maine to yeah, down to the southwest, 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: like what the heck from from high deserts all the 87 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: way up to you know, the Canadian coast. 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, they've got a state of emergency in sixteen states. 89 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: That's how bad it is. 90 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well, if you are listening to us 91 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: from one of those states. Please stay warm, make sure 92 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: those pipes aren't freezing. And uh, you know, it's a 93 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: good weekend for football. 94 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 5: I guess yeah, have you got if you've still got 95 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: electricity and can watch the games. 96 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: We'll tell them that. Don't say that, don't remind them 97 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 2: of that. 98 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 5: Maybe they can listen on the radio like that, oh 99 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 5: in the old timey days. 100 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: Old timey football days. Right, all right, Well, I am 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: glad you guys are here. Thanks for being with us 102 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: and working so hard as you guys always do. And 103 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: guess what it's time to get some news from our 104 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: friend here. And what am I gonna say? I'm gonna say, Oh, 105 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: we got a couple of calls on the board. So 106 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're going to the phones your 107 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper Whisperer, Dean Sharp, 108 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: the house Whisper. That is some funky music man here 109 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: to help you take your home to the next level. 110 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the program today. Are you 111 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: awake yet? You're waking up? 112 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're awake. 113 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: If you're in the eastern part of the US, you're 114 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: awake because it's cold, cold, cold outside. If you're here 115 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: in southern California. It is not cold, and maybe you 116 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: are still asleep, but there are those of us who 117 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: are up and adam and you know what, I love you, guys. 118 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: I love you guys. We've got some calls on the board. 119 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: It is an all call Saturday morning, and I just 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: love early morning question askers, because man, it means you're 121 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: up and getting it done today. Without any further Ado, 122 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: let's go to the phones. Oh, let me give out 123 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: the number, by the way, because there's always room for you. 124 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: Eight three three two, ask Dean eight three three the 125 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: eight three three. I gotta get my mouth working today? 126 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: How about that? 127 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: Eight three three two Ask Dean eight three three the 128 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: numeral two? Ask Dean. Anything you want to talk about 129 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: regarding your home today. Let's talk to Freddy. Hey, Freddie, 130 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: welcome home. 131 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: Good morning. Yes, there is a trying to replace a 132 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: deck down to the Joys. And there is a membrane 133 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: I think you refer to it or a barrier seal 134 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: that replaces roof paper. And I'd like to know the 135 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: name and where I can buy that. 136 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're talking about a deck. Yeah, So roofing 137 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: paper really is a very very archaic product. There are 138 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: still roofers and people who use it uh and technically 139 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: the code still allows you to use it. 140 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: Uh. 141 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, it has been a thing for a long 142 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: time now. There are various brands of this freddy and 143 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: it's a a roofing membrane is what we're talking about, 144 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: a modern roofing membrane. Uh to Pot makes it. Tivek 145 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: makes a roofing membrane. Owen's Corning makes a roofing membrane. 146 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: W R. 147 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Grace makes a roofing membrane. So the key gaf every 148 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: major roofing company makes a roofing membrane. The key is 149 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: that that you find one that is helf ceiling. That 150 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: means that when you roll it out, it will it 151 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: will seal to the deck and it also seals onto 152 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: itself the next course of it. So as you roll 153 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: it out, you're overlapping at four to six inches and 154 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: it's ceiling onto itself. And that's where that means by 155 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: the time you're done, you have one membrane, one continuous membrane, 156 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: not just a bunch of courses of paper, especially on 157 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: a deck, especially on a deck situation. And so these 158 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: membranes can actually be found, you know, right here in 159 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: town at a roofing supply company or at the big 160 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: box stores like Home Depot or Lows. You just go 161 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: back into the roofing department, you'll find them sitting on 162 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: the shelf, and you may want to talk to somebody 163 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: about which one works best for you. The thing that 164 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: I love about them, the thing that's so great about 165 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: them is that they remain pliable. That's the biggest problem 166 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: with courses of building paper. It's fine in the waterproofing 167 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: department as long as it's sloped properly, but as it ages, 168 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: it gets brittle, it cracks, and that's a problem and 169 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: has no expansion in contraction in hot and cold weather 170 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: that really works against it. But these membranes, they stretch, 171 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: they shrink, and they stay water tight. So you'll find 172 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: them in the roofing section at the lower. 173 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm trying to help my friend who 174 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: has an upper level. It's on the second level. It's 175 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: I think it was added to the house in the forties, 176 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: and it has a very thin cement top and then 177 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: a plywood underneath, and it looks like crazy, and he's 178 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: been trying to plug it, and I total him he 179 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: needs to just gut it down to the joist, replace 180 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: it with like a with the plywood, and then just 181 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: use a membrane rather than roofing paper. And then he 182 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: can use I think like a luxury vinyl planking or 183 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: something exterior for the look on that upper level deck. 184 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: Am I telling him the right late approach? Yeah? 185 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially essentially, yes, yes, And that's that's a decent 186 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: DIY way to do it. Now, a professional roofing membrane 187 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: or a professional deck contractor might actually decide to use 188 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: like a fiberglass combination or PVC mem brain up there. 189 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: That's another option for you as well for flat roofs. 190 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: But the key is this, and this is really important. 191 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: He needs to make sure if he's going to take 192 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: it all down to the joist, need to make sure 193 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: that when that when the plywood goes back on that 194 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: we've got slope. 195 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: We need slope on this thing. 196 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Okay, it's got to be sloped so that water is 197 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: going to move off of it because the layers of 198 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: concrete and whatever else is going on there, those are 199 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: those are layers that absorb water. That water moves right 200 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: through them. And so they are not going to you know, 201 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: convey the water. Now, yes, the membrane is waterproof in theory, 202 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: you could make a little bathtub or a pool with it, 203 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: but we never want to tempt fate. Okay, we want 204 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: everything working towards the same end. And so not only 205 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: do we want a really good membrane that's going to 206 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: last and stretch and stay sealed, but we want to 207 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: give it the best chance of doing its job at 208 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: all times and not have water sitting on it. So 209 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: they've got to have some slope on that deck. So 210 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: if we go all the way down to the joist, 211 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: we we might want to make some furring strips that 212 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: make sure that the plywood is actually sloped so that 213 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: the membrane will work. You could do it on top 214 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: of the plywood if you want, or you could do 215 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: it under the plywood. But the point is slope. And 216 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: a great membrane flashed into the house properly the wall 217 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: and the edge, and yeah, you're on the right track, 218 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: my friend. 219 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think we're on the right track. 220 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: And I just when I call it a couple of 221 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: roofing supplies, they did not really have a clue what 222 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: I was talking about, and so I thought, maybe I'm 223 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: not using the right language. But the big box stores 224 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: I should be able to find that, and that doesn't 225 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: sound too challenging. Yeah, so there is some slope and 226 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: he knows he's got slope, he's got good drainage. But 227 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: they use that old style cement, I think, with a 228 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: little bit of exposed aggregate. And then the roofer came 229 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: in and he tried to use some kind of fiberglass 230 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 3: to patch. I told him I didn't think it was 231 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: going to work last rainstorm. It didn't, and so now 232 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 3: he wants to follow my lead. So I hope I'm 233 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: giving him good advice. 234 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, and I would agree with you. 235 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean, fiberglass is a great way of applying an 236 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: overall membrane, but using it as a patch when you've 237 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: got an insufficient material around you, it's not a good idea. 238 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: And I could have protected it wasn't gonna work either. 239 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: So Freddy, good job, my friend. All right, buddy, you 240 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: have a good one. Thanks for the call. All right, 241 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: good start. It's a good start to the show. We've 242 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: got more calls on the board. We got room for 243 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: you now. Eight three three two ask Dean eight three 244 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: three the numeral to ask Dean. It's an all calls 245 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: Saturday morning. More right after this your Home with Dean Sharp, 246 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: the House Whisper. 247 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 248 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty. 249 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: Sam is really working me with the music, the bumper 250 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: music today, Dean Sharp, the House Whisper here to help 251 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: you transform your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. You 252 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: know that's something that you just never hear anybody say, Sam. 253 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: You never hear somebody say these days, Hey, guys, guess 254 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: what I've been taking xylophone lessons. I was wondering if 255 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: I could just play you tune. 256 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: Hey, that was a mean marimba in that one. 257 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 5: Okay, I was violent fans right, yep, gone, daddy gone. 258 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: All right. 259 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, who do you know? 260 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: Who do you know that plays the marina? 261 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: Okay? 262 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 5: I did when I was I was? Is that so nerdy? 263 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 264 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: It is? Yeah it is? How dare you it is? 265 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I did. 266 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 5: I went to competitions in middle school and high school 267 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,239 Speaker 5: where I played the xylophone, and I was mostly xylophone, 268 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 5: but a little bit of marimba. 269 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do you have a xylophone? 270 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: Now? No, I don't break it out for the fan. 271 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 5: I should. No, I stopped playing after a high school. Unfortunately, 272 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 5: I went to college, didn't didn't continue, much to my 273 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,239 Speaker 5: mom's frustration. 274 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: You should, you should, because you know what, Yeah, come 275 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: over to Heather's house. She's like, you know, after dinner, 276 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: She's like, guys, I'm gonna pour you a coffee. I 277 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: have a little after dinner beverage. And while you're enjoying that, uh, 278 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: let me play you you know a little something you 279 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: might reckon this a little Welcome to the Jungle on 280 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: the xylophone. 281 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: There is something that's sort of like classic about that sound, 282 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: Like you get a little like, you know, cocktail, a 283 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 5: little you know what is it? Like Herbie Hancock vibes, 284 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 5: and you know where you're all sitting around, someone's got 285 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 5: like a little cocktail, and I don't know, it's a 286 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 5: time gone by, you know. 287 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: You know here I thought I was safe to make 288 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: that comment. Little did you know? 289 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: I thought I would have the whole room agreeing with me. 290 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, that's right, xylophone. Heather's like, excuse me, 291 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: excuse me, excuse me. 292 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 5: Uh, I used to carry my mallets around with me 293 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 5: in my. 294 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: Back I don't say that. 295 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Don't say that, yes, don't tell okay, all right, all right, my. 296 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: Video on YouTube. 297 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: I'm just scaring. Do you play any instrument? Sne you 298 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 5: don't play any instruments. 299 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: No, I'm instrument illiterate. Oh well you know what? Well okay. Yeah. 300 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: When we were in Santa Fe, I so love the 301 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: sound of native flute. I bought I bought a native flute. 302 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Oh and guess what. I can play the scale on 303 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: the native flute and it sounds really good. But that's 304 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: as far as I've got. 305 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: See that's cool. There you go, just a little bit, 306 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 5: a little bit of music in your life. 307 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. But here's the thing. I don't carry it around 308 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: in my backpack. 309 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 5: I don't anymore. When I was in high school, I did. 310 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm carrying the mallets around with me. Like what just 311 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: in case you find a xylophone on the side of 312 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: the road. You're like, wait, I got it. It's like, geez, 313 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: there's a xylophone here. I wish somebody had mallets. 314 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm ready, Heather. 315 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 5: Always be prepared. 316 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: Hey, oh that was awesome. That just made my morning. 317 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: I'm so glad in my morning. I'm done. I'm done 318 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: with the show. That's it. 319 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 5: I'm such a nerd. When you said that, I was 320 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 5: like one, I was like, actually, I played the xophone. 321 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: Is there a doctor in the house? Well the doctor? 322 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: Why got you covered? 323 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 5: Dina? We're good over here? Where got you? 324 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: All? 325 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: Right? Sam? 326 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: I need some you find Heather's yes, sylophone YouTube videos 327 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: and let's let's bump the next segment with that. All right, 328 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: I have to get back to work now. I'm so sorry. 329 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: I kind of regret even mentioning it, but that's really amazing. 330 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the phone, shall we. Let's 331 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: talk to DDI. Heydd welcome home. 332 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: Hi. 333 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 4: So I have a gas fireplace, beautiful wooden mantle. But 334 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 4: the mantle gets so hot it melts like candles. Oh no, 335 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: it melted. I have to put you on it melted, 336 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: my Santa Claus. I can't touch it. I can't put 337 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: flowers on it because it evaporates the water. It gets 338 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: hot to the touch, so hot. 339 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: Okay, how this is really important? How high above the 340 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: opening of the firebox is the mantle? 341 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 4: Let me not care ya, fallo. 342 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: Foot and a half really a foot and a half, 343 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean really the top of the firebox, and it's 344 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: it's a full eighteen inches above. 345 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: How far does the mantle project out from the wall? 346 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 4: Maybe foot? Okay, maybe a foot let's see, gosh I 347 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 4: could have happened. It's about a foot out of the wall. 348 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 4: From the wall, okay, it's coming out of foot six yeah, 349 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: about eight inches past the fireplace. 350 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so it's eight inches above the fire place. 351 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: The bottom of. 352 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 4: The mantle, the bottom of the mantle. 353 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: From the top of the firebox. Two yes, two inches 354 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: above the firebox. 355 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, that's half an inch. It's a gorgeous mantle. Okay. 356 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 4: So here's the black little vent things above the gas 357 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: the glass. Right then I out sticks out an inch, 358 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: it goes up five inches, goats out two up to 359 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 4: an ouch four to the top. 360 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: Okaya, all right, my friend, here's the thing. You got 361 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: a gorgeous mantle. You need to call somebody and talk 362 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: about moving it. Because here's the thing. The code, National 363 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: fire Code and the International Building Code when it comes 364 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: to fireplaces, right a bottom of the mantle. Okay, technically 365 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to bury everybody in 366 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: all the formula for figuring this out, So I'm I'm 367 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: gonna tell you what it is, but i will tell 368 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: you how it ends up working out in the real world. 369 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: The bottom of any mantle made from noncombustible material, So 370 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: unless that mantle is stone or you know, concrete, if 371 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: it's wood, whatever else it may be made out of. 372 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: Most or wood, the. 373 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: Bottom of the mantle has to be at least six 374 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: inches above the heat dispersing top of the firebox. Okay, 375 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: at least six that's the bottom of the mantle six inches, 376 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: all right, But that's that's if the mantle only sticks 377 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: out an inch and a half from the wall. Okay, 378 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: every every eighth of an inch further that that sticks 379 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: out is another inch up. So the point is this 380 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: is here. Here's how it works out when and when 381 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: somebody just off the street, when I'm just walking down 382 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: the street looking for Heather's you know, xylophone mallets. 383 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: When I'm just walking. 384 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: Down the street randomly, and someone walks up to me 385 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: and says, Dean, how high should a mantle be above 386 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: the firebox opening? I'm like, code is twelve inches. The 387 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: bottom of the mantle. Bottom of the mantle, the lower 388 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: edge needs to be twelve inches minimum above the firebox. Okay, 389 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: that that gives that gives room for the heat that's 390 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: coming out of the firebox to to to break apart 391 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: and to you know, dissipate away from the wall. And 392 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: the reason everything's melting on your mantle is that it's 393 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: way too close. It's not code and it's technically, you know, 394 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: a safety violation as well. Just it's not safe to 395 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: have the mantle that Now the mantle itself may not 396 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, may may withstand the heat of what's coming 397 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: out of the firebox, but that's why everything you're setting 398 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: on it, including candles and Santa are melting away. And 399 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: so that mantle, gorgeous as it may be, needs to 400 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: be higher about that opening. I'm sorry to tell you, 401 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: but that's just that's the way it is. 402 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: Dedie. 403 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: Would it be easier to get a smaller. 404 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: Box, a smaller firebox, Yeah, I don't know. I mean, 405 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: it really has a lot to do with how much 406 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: you paid for the mantle and all of that, But 407 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: most people wouldn't do it that way. Most people wouldn't 408 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: just you know, switch out the fireplace if you're going 409 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: to switch out the fireplace at that point, you know 410 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: you can't just take that fireplace and choke the box 411 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: down either, Okay, it has to have its own clearances, 412 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: so it would be a new gas fireplace. And if 413 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: you're doing that, you're moving the mantle anyway, you're removing 414 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: it and putting it back. So I would just stick 415 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: with the fireplace that you've got and raise the mantle. 416 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Raise the mantle. Now you might have fancy legs coming 417 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: down the side and you're thinking, oh, they touched the floor. 418 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: They've already cut. But we could put like a plinth 419 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: block underneath them and get them up another few inches 420 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: and get the whole thing up and it could all 421 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: be blended in decoratively. But I'm just telling you, my friend, 422 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: that mantle has got to go up minimum twelve inches 423 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: up from the firebox, okay, for anything that projects more 424 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: than six inches out from the wall. Just that's the 425 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: way it is, and the code takes it very very seriously. Datie, 426 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: thanks for your call, Thanks for calling in. Appreciate that. 427 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: I wish I had better news for you. All Right, y'all, 428 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: when we come back, more of your calls your home 429 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: with Dean Sharp, the house whisper, no. 430 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: Tan shirt, the house Whisper. There to remind you every 431 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: home deserves great design. It's an all call Saturday morning. 432 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: Here. 433 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: It's an all xylophone Saturday morning. You boy, are you lucky? Wow? Wow? 434 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: Of all the Saturdays to tune in and listen to 435 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: the show, it's an all xylophone morning. 436 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: Hea there. 437 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: What is the difference between a xylophone and a marimba? 438 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 5: I think one is bigger. Yeah, that's my That would 439 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: be my guess. 440 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: The marimba is bigger. 441 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, the marimba is much larger. But I think essentially 442 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 5: they're the they're the same, but the marimba is is 443 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 5: much larger. 444 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, And apparently you play it with felt and the 445 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: the mallets have felt tips, so it's like a softer 446 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: sound on the end, and the the xylophone mallets are 447 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: like hard rubber. 448 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 449 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 5: When I played the xylophone, it was yeah, it was 450 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 5: a harder mallet. Okay, It's just a different different vibes. 451 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: People are like, should I put a xylophone in my home? 452 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 5: Should we build a little music area? 453 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: Oh? Listen to that? Love it all right? 454 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: I've d kind of turned a corner. Now, xylophone might 455 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: be my thing. It's so soothing though. It is kind 456 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: of soothing. 457 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: I think every time I go see the Nutcracker at 458 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 5: Christmas time, they have that classic. 459 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course there's a context for it. Yeah, of 460 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: course there's a context. I just can't get that image 461 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: of you carrying your mallets around and your backpack. 462 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 5: I will look for I will look for a picture 463 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 5: of me playing. I don't know if I have one 464 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 5: on my backpack, but I'll look for a picture of 465 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 5: me playing. 466 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 6: I'm picturing her wearing holster with like like having the 467 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 6: matelets in the gun like gun holster. Yeah, I mean, 468 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 6: because granted, a xylophone is not really the most portable 469 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 6: of instrument. 470 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 5: No, that always stayed in the band room, and I 471 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 5: didn't have one at home. I only played it at school. 472 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 5: But then when we went to competitions, we would load 473 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 5: it up in the in the van and take it 474 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 5: with us. 475 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 2: But so did your did your music teacher require you 476 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: to supply your own mouth? I brought. 477 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 5: I bought and brought my own mallets. See I was 478 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 5: there's a larger picture here. I was a first chair 479 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 5: in percussion, so I also played the drums, and I 480 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: did also carry my drumsticks around. But I'm really loved 481 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: in middle school, especially the xylophone. Yeah, so I had both. 482 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 5: I had my mallets and my drumsticks. 483 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: Look at you hidden depths right first chair and percussion. Yeah, 484 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: now o, drummers take their take their drumsticks everywhere. 485 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 5: Yes, you have to, you know, to become one with 486 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 5: the drumsticks. 487 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: Because you can break those out and just yet, you know, 488 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: right on the countertop. 489 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 5: At any moment, wherever somebody needs a beat, you're ready. 490 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: You're like, wait, I've got something, and you pull out 491 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: the xylophone. 492 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 5: Mallek, Yeah, you can't. It doesn't have the same effect 493 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 5: with the xylophone, Malek. I think I won like a 494 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 5: state competition with my with my rendition of the nutcrackers 495 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 5: bump bump boom boom bum bum boom bum. 496 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: See that's exactly perfect for a xylophone, right, it's perfect perfect, 497 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: all right, all right there, you forgive me, forgive me. 498 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just getting my I'm getting my head 499 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: wrapped around. 500 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 5: I know it's wild. It's a very niche instrument, but 501 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 5: I love it. Yeah, I get it. 502 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, get it, you know, in the xylophone community, 503 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: that's how we cheer each other. 504 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, get it, get it, nut cracker, that's it. All right, 505 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm dying. I'm like crying, all right. 506 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: Okay. Hey, by the way, uh hello, good morning, Dean. 507 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: Sharp the house whisperer here, not the xylophone whisper. 508 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: You can't you could? Well? All right, maybe, all right, 509 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 2: I've got to go back to the phones. 510 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: I do. I just need to do that. We're gonna 511 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: get started with a call. I'm so sorry. I'm just 512 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: just taken by the xylophone. 513 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 2: You know. 514 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: That's that's its power. It's power. It'll seduce you, it will. 515 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: It just just draw you in. All right, Let's go 516 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: to the phones and then uh, we'll start a call 517 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: and then we'll go to break and finish it up. Pam, Hey, Pam, 518 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: welcome home and sorry for the xylophone stuff. 519 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 7: Hey, good morning, Dean. I have a weird thing going on. 520 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 7: I have grass growing out of my shingles on my roof. 521 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: Mmm mmm mmm uh where ye at? Where where's the house? 522 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 7: I'm in northern California, Yuba City area, Marysville. 523 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: Okay, one side or all over the place, and these 524 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: are wishings. 525 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: On one side. 526 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 7: No, they're your real you know what are those shingles? 527 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 2: Asphalt light? 528 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 529 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, how long? 530 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 7: It's only on the front side of the roof. I 531 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 7: barely bought the house, been there six months and I 532 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 7: noticed them when I was taking down my Christmas lights. 533 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 7: The backside has panels, solar panels all the way across, 534 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 7: and we did check and there's no grass growing on 535 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 7: the backside. 536 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: Okay, now we're talking grass, not not not algae or moss. 537 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: It's grass. 538 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 4: No, it's grass like it's tall. 539 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: Even just didn't notice it. 540 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: How long has it been happening. 541 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 542 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 7: I was procrastinating and barely took my Christmas lights down 543 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 7: and that's when I noticed it. And it's right above 544 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 7: the garage area, so not so much over the main house, 545 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 7: but right above the garage is where it's really I 546 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 7: mean ends a fake patch of grass. 547 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: Wow. That's impressive. That is impressive. Okay, well it's not. 548 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a huge problem. You gotta kill it. 549 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: You got to get up there, okay, and you know, 550 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: use some weed killer or if you want to go 551 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: natural and organic, you know, vinegar and water or bleach. 552 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: But but you just kill it, kill it, don't and 553 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,239 Speaker 1: it's believing as a using as it is. Now there 554 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: are people listening saying, hey, grass gets grown on roofs 555 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, not by accident, that's the thing. Okay, 556 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: there is such a thing as a live roof. 557 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 558 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: Live roofs are amazing, by the way, they're absolutely amazing. 559 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: But you have to design the roof for soil and 560 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: in order to grow you know, stuff on the roof intentionally. 561 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: But a regular shingled roof like that at asphalt composite roof. 562 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: The problem is, you know, roots, roots, just like it's 563 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: the roots. It's not the grass coming out the top. 564 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: Nobody cares about that. It's the roots. And the roots 565 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: have obviously found some form of nutrient. There's enough moisture 566 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: there and maybe enough dirt and door, you know, just 567 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: deposits there that they're taken hold, and the roots will 568 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: get under the shingles and disrupt shingles and mess with 569 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: the membrane and the next thing you know, we've got 570 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: a leak and we don't want that. 571 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So you just got to get. 572 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: Up there. 573 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: Again, because it wouldn't be a bad idea. 574 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: It would not be. So this has literally popped up 575 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: since you bought the house. 576 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 7: Yes, because I put the Christmas lights up in late October, 577 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 7: right November first, did not see it, So it literally 578 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 7: just happened. 579 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I I think, that's I think that's 580 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: what you should do. You should get it inspected to end. 581 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: But you got to get up there. I mean, it's 582 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: not going to be like, oh, you know, you're not 583 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: gonna call me back three years from now saying hey Dean, 584 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: it's Pam. 585 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: You remember I'd grasped on my roof. I guess what. 586 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: I tried to deal with it and just keeps coming back. No, 587 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: it won't, it won't you But you gotta gotta take 588 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: it out and then then you know, maybe have somebody 589 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: come out and take it and just make sure that 590 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: the that it hasn't done any damage already. I doubt 591 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: it because it's just been a recent thing. But yeah, 592 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: don't don't let it stay up there because it doesn't 593 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: belong there. And again the roots are the thing that 594 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: could cause a problem. All right, Well that was simple enough, Pam. 595 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. It's just this is the way 596 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: the morning is going right, I'm mentioned xylophone. And then 597 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, we got grass growing 598 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: on the roof, We've got you know, fish flying through 599 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: the backyard. Who knows what happens next, but don't miss it. 600 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. You're Home with Dean Sharp. The house whisper 601 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: will be right back right after this. 602 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 603 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty