WEBVTT - 2-16-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.760 Do you want to be an American at the fog 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:08.280 dead slash President's Dad? Good Marti Scott's loan back on 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:10.760 seven hundred WWD to driving. Yeah, that FOG's no joke 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.680 this morning. There's there's still a fog out there. Obviously, 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:15.760 I don't think it's gonna burn off till like ten eleven, 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.759 twelve o'clock today. For sure makes sense with the warm 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:20.880 weather moving and all that snow and ice and rain, 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.160 O the grap you know what the moisture is what's 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.160 causing this? Obviously definitely two hands on the wheel and 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.400 turn the fog lights on if you have them. So, 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:31.920 if you are in the under the age of fifty, 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:36.120 in that cohort sub fifty, you are seeing an eighty 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.720 percent increase over the last thirty years of cancers, in 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.440 particular digestive cancers. You're twice as likely to have colon cancer, 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.960 four times more cases of rectal cancer than people born 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.920 in nineteen fifty. That's unreal. What's driving this is the question? 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.720 He is Randy Drusik, He's the president of eh C 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:55.320 and Kenwood. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:56.120 Good morning. How are you? 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.320 Those are all seeing rapid increases as well as a 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.280 matter of fact, today, in twenty twenty five, young adults 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.120 are twice as likely to be diagnosed with colon cancer 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.960 and four times more likely to be diagnosed with rectal 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:14.160 cancer as those born in nineteen fifty. What the hell 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.160 is driving this trend? And how do we fix it? 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.880 Randy Drosick is the president of HC here in Kenwood. 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:23.080 Doctor DROSSI, good morning. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:23.399 How are you? 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.120 I'm fine, Thank you and thanks for having me. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:26.440 Yeah, I appreciate it. 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.520 Weird paradox here, we're getting better at finding and treating 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.720 cancer as much earlier than ever before. But why then 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.399 are people developing cancers younger than ever before? Or is 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.720 it because that we are discovering them at an early 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:39.679 age because of that treatment? It's kind of like a 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:40.959 self fulfilling prophecy here. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.119 That's good. We don't really know why people are being 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.360 diagnosed younger, but that we definitely have a trend in colon, breath, 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.000 cervical and a few other cancers that we are seeing 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.760 this it's being studied. We're concentrating. We've been concentrating for 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.720 detection so long. This isn't something that we've we've been 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:01.680 working at very long. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:03.240 Yeah, Or are we just catching it earlier. 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:04.840 I guess it's the point, you know, the cancers that 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.920 we wouldn't see develop and maybe slow moving cancers that 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.799 would develop over the course of a few years, we're 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.000 catching so much sooner now, and therefore it seems like, Okay, 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.400 we are getting maybe we always had it, but is 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:16.560 there evidence that that's the case. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.440 That may be part of the case. The other thing 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.680 is we are better at genetics, so we do scream, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.320 like you said. But the interesting thing the cancers that 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.720 we see in these people who are under fifty tend 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.200 to be much more aggressive than the cancers that we 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:31.800 see and people who are over fifty. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.720 Oh wow, oh paradox is that it is a paradox. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.600 But as I looked at these numbers, what jumps off 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.840 the page to me is there's like fourteen cancer types 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.120 that were screened in the study that did. Eight of 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:50.800 them are digestive based, right, So it's it's upper lower, GI, stomach, throat, esophagel, 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.920 all that stuff. And does that tell you maybe it's nutrition, diet, 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:55.560 that kind of thing. 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.960 I think you're absolutely correct. I think it's our seventh 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.400 a lifestyle and you know, we have a lot of 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.280 obesity in this country, smoking, heavy alcohol, use a lot 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:10.120 of processed foods. I think all those contribute to GI cancers. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:11.960 How much do you attribute this to the to the 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.440 diet because smoking numbers have declined for a long time. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.720 But I look at that and go although I should say, 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:19.680 before the diet thing, let's talk about smoking. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.840 Vaping is a thing. Now do you think there's a 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:22.760 tie there? And now there's no. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.720 I don't know if there's any scientific data to back 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.679 that up, but smoking vaping is there something there? 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.320 I think vaping is definitely not good for you, and 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.640 I think you're you. Also, it's the nail on the 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.120 head again that diet. Our diet in the US is 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.360 just not very good. We're a fast food country. 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.880 Yeah, we still are, right despite an effort to try 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.480 and need better. I know in my advanced stage that 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.400 I am trying to do the best I can. Doesn't 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.880 mean that I don't enjoy pizza or you know, burger 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.320 and fries or something like that, but not not every day. 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:57.040 And people hear that moderation, moderation, But physicians like yourself 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.840 have been preaching that for a long time. Why do 0:03:58.920 --> 0:03:59.640 we tune that out? 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.160 I think Americans tend to work longer hours than other countries. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.280 When you look at the number of hours the American 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.240 worker works compared to other countries, I think our free 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.560 time is left and I think we try to cram 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:13.960 as much into a day as we can. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.680 I think that's an interesting analysis. I mean, if you've 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.560 ever been overseas, for example, you go to Europe Italy, 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.040 I've been to a few times, and it's just a 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.160 whole different thing over the UK. Maybe pretty similar to 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.600 us here, but you know, you go there, things shut 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:28.920 down for a couple hours in the afternoon. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:29.880 You want a cup of coffee. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:31.520 If there's no drive through there, you got to sit 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.320 down and enjoy your coffee, and you come back in 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.120 a super chill and I think there's something to be 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:36.719 said about that. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.400 I definitely think we're working ourselves into bad health. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:43.520 But we have for a long time. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.560 Maybe the generations figured out because you hear about, wow, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.160 the work ethic of these young people. They just want 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.719 to go on vacation, and maybe there's maybe they're going 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.440 to live longer as a result of that as opposed 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:52.120 to what we were doing. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:57.560 Well, they may that's that's for sure. We tend not 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:01.039 to exercise as much as other countries. I think that 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.159 plays a huge role in it also. 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.120 And I think the older you get, the more sedentary 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.320 you are too. But you know, we're talking about cancer 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.360 and young people. What is it specifically about our diet 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.560 Western diet? Is it the saturated fad? Is the processed 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.400 nature of foods? As a physician, doctor do I said, 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.599 can you finger? Can you point the finger at any 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.320 one thing? Or is it all those things? 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.280 I think it's I think it's everything. I think high 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:29.200 fat diet definitely plays into it. Processed foods play into it, 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:34.440 high sugar content. You know, with we see processed foods 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.440 and snacks, you're you're probably better off eating a carrot 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.200 for a snack than the back of chips. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.840 Yeah, but between me and you, the chips are so 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:42.640 much better. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.240 You know, particularly if you have French onion dip. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.280 It's hard to argue with with. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.120 Fresh onion dip and chips, I agree. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:50.800 Yeah, But it can't be every day. 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.839 It has to be you know, I know people my 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.159 age that are you're probably having a bag of chips 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:57.800 a day, or a six pack of beer or twelve 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.840 pack as the case may be. And I mean that's 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:01.599 all well and good if you've don't plan on living long, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.040 But that's the unfortunate part of this thing. How much 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.560 is alcohol use playing into this? Especially for people under 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.480 the age of fifty are developing cancer. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.719 Heavy alcohol use, particularly as the sophageal cancer and the 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:17.560 savageal cancer. Alcohol and smoking together is a very lethal combination. 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.440 So we definitely see that not only that. You know, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.719 you get cerasus delivery, you get centripletal obesity. All those 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.520 things contribute to poor health. But the key is what 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.640 you said earlier, moderation moderation. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.360 Do you think that sleep deprivation, poor sleep quality factors 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.160 into this too? And that you mentioned we're going and 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.440 going and going all the time. Most of us are 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.599 not getting as many hours as we need. Most I 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.880 think the average American has lessened seven hours of sleep. 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.160 Now is that a factor? Hear that your body doesn't 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:46.680 have time to repair those hells? 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.400 Well, again, you're corrected. I don't know if it has 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.599 as much effect with cancer, but it certainly does with 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.680 our overall health, not just that, but our mental health 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.719 and risk of Alzheimer's. You know, when our brain just 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.400 needs to decompress, just like an athlete's body needs to decompressed. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:03.840 It's like, because you know you work out, Let's say 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.080 you lift weight, so we got to take a day 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.640 off before you do anything else because you're sore and 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.840 your muscles have to in order to grow your muscles, 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.120 you have to rest. That's part of it. Another paradox 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.800 here sounds like you're saying the same thing with this. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.160 Absolutely yeah, your brain needs to be worked, your brain 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:24.200 needs to be relaxed, and finding that balance is very difficult. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.520 And we don't like that right the whole olm yoga right, 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.320 take a calm time relaxation technique. I got an iPhone 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.200 that nags me like a like a second wife about 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.480 you know, stand up, sit down, do this, do that. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:39.720 It's like we just turned that stuff off and we 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.800 just want to plow through it. And especially men, we 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:43.720 just want to plow through that wall. We'll just keep 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:44.600 going on we fall over. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.760 Oh, I agree. I have a bad habit of that. Also, 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.360 I did hot yoga for a year or two prior 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.960 of the pandemic, and I can tell you you want 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.440 to talk about something that will let your brain decompress. 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.520 It's unbelievable and I'm sorry they haven't gone back to it. 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.840 Yeah, and I tried it actually before I back surgery 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.600 years ago, and I just I can't do the yoga thing. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.360 It's too much of me. I can't spend that much 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:08.040 time with myself. 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:08.320 Doctor. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.280 Well, I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan of me. 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.080 I'll be honest with you. I got, like, you know what, 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.320 enough of this stuff I got me and with my 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.600 voices in my head by myself, it's a it's not 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:20.480 a good combination. 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.040 I just I got to get away from me sometimes. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.280 But you know, you have to stay active. I always 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.800 tell people, once you sit, you stay seated. And I'm 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.800 sixty four and I ran the pig this past year. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.000 Good and you just have to keep doing that. If 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.160 you're I should say age properly about that. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.840 Yeah, yeah, I uh, well you're a you're a freak then, 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.600 because I'm thinking man running it that uh. And I'm 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.080 younger than you are. Although I still box, I might 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:46.880 have to give that up because I got you know, 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.439 ostri arthritis, and everything hurts now. But I'll find something 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.839 else to do, uh, in order to keep active. And 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:53.920 it's good for your brain, it's good for your body. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.040 We're talking to doctor Randy Drusick this morning. He's an ecologist. 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.600 He's also a president of OHC cancer specialists all all over. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.960 The one here in Kenwood is fantastic, by the way, 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:07.160 firsthand experience there. They are the cancer specialists in Cincinnati 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.640 talking about a weird paradox here. We're getting better at 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.280 finding and treating cancers, but we are seeing cancer developed 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.360 earlier than ever before. Kate Middleton, Princess of Wales, Hamlin 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:21.640 County Auditor, Bridget Kelly. There's Chadwick Boseman, of course, James 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.760 Vanderbeek from Dawson's Creek who just died days ago. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:25.439 How much of this? 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:25.720 You know? 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.880 I mentioned the diet element of this thing too, and 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.960 then I started thinking about you know, I just mentioned 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:31.920 when I had surgery and I had seed iff and 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:32.560 it's a gut back. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:32.760 You know. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.480 We don't think about our back here and our gut 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.720 until things go really, really south. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.320 Is that also part of this too? 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.920 We're eating the processed foods and alcohol and smoking and 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:46.400 lack of exercise, probably over prescribed antibiotics and stuff like 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:47.880 that have a factor in your gut health. 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:49.160 How important is that? With cancer? 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.280 Sure, your gut has natural bacteria in it, and if 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.720 we disrupt that mail you you can have all kinds 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.440 of problems. You can have an infection called clustered and different. Still, 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.480 there are certain types of astro intestinal cancers that we 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:05.480 know are related to Helico factor, So yes, there are, 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.600 and you can actually treat those cancers by treating the 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.680 Helico factors. So bacteria certainly can play a role, and 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:12.920 so conviruses. 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.440 Yeah, and so you're yeah, does HPV for women fit 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:17.000 in this too? 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.480 Yes, yeah, it definitely does. They plays a very big 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.280 role in cervical cancer and now we're seeing it in 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:25.760 some aill cancers also. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.679 Right right right, I think, and it all fits together 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.680 that the the the bacteria in the gut, and it 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.200 sounds kind of like new agy, but uh, you know, 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.079 stuff like yogurt and kafir and anything like that that's 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.760 a probiotic that you can consume is definitely gonna help 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.960 help move the needle for you, especially if you maybe 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.160 you are cutting corners when it comes to diet exercise. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.840 I agree, and I think we don't know exactly why, 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.600 but it may have to do with what we call 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.800 transit time. If you have a bowel movement every day, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.440 all the bad stuff gets out of your gut. If 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.640 there's someone that has an every five or six day 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.720 or what we would a lot of people would consider constipation, 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.280 you're more exposed to those toxins in your gut, and 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.480 there's a question whether that may increase your risk of 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:07.640 these GI cancers. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.000 Is that metabolism though? Can you change that? But the 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.720 way your body metabolizes. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.640 I think you can with with high fiber diets. I 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.080 think there's a lot of things you can do to 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.280 increase increase your time. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.560 More veggie and more exercise. And it makes stuff, uh, 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:23.680 it makes stuff move three If that makes sense, I 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.400 mean if it hangs around, it takes a chance to 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.920 you know, essentially just sit there. And there's a reason 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.280 why your body's getting rid of it. I guess that 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.120 makes sense. You can take the garbage outlet's put that way. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:36.040 Why not be too too messy here? Yeah, And we're 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.200 seeing this alarming trend. Now, how concerned are you as 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.520 a as a oncologist doctor drawsick that we're seeing these 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.880 numbers and people getting cancer earlier and earlier than ever before. 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:45.719 How bad is it really? 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.439 From your perspective, it's devastating because the cancers are much worse. 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.360 If you take a colon cancer and a forty year 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.200 old for colon cancer and a seventy year old, the 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:57.120 prognosis is much worse. The stage tends to be picked 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:58.840 up a little bit later, you know, because we don't 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.959 really screen for colon cancer unless you have a non 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.240 genetic risk until you're forty five. So you take a 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.520 thirty five year old, it's not expected. You're not screening. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.880 It tends to be later, tends to be more aggressive, 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.200 they don't respond as well as treatment, and some of 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:17.080 the markers of this tend to be the genetic markers, 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.160 both from the family genetics and the genetics. The tumor 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.319 tend to be different and. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.160 It's just some more aggressive therefore harder to treat. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:25.760 Absolutely. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.600 Yeah, when it comes to cancers that you see, which 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:32.199 is the I guess you know, we talk about lymphatic cancer, 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.800 which my mom had, but there's you know, there's a 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.840 host of ones that are like that. We just have 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.320 the treatment for that. The ones that you're seeing that 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.600 are just not survivable or we're not there yet as 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:43.480 first treatment goes. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.520 Or what I think the young, well, I think We've 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.640 made headway in every cancer and I'm an optimist because 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.079 I'm an oncologist, but I think if the ones that 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.280 I see that I find to be devastating is our 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.760 younger patients with colon cancer and one that's it's on 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.400 the rise one to two percent per year, they don't 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:06.080 respond quite as well, and to me, that is a 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:07.720 very heartbreaking when you see it. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.640 Yeah, we're seeing a rise in colorectal cancer, which is 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.840 normally something you would see in middle age or beyond, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:14.720 and now we're seeing in patients, as you said, as 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.240 young as forty and certainly under fifty. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:18.800 Now that's yeah, that's exactly correct. 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:19.360 That's horrible. 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.920 I saw something else too recently, and it's called the 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.880 birth cohort effect, in that each group of people born 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.400 at a later time, let's say ten years apart, had 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.280 a higher risk of delphing cancer and life. We're seeing 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.319 that trend now that it should be going the other way, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:33.720 but it's the exact opposite. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.800 Yeah, that's alarming. In our survival rates for some of 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.440 these cancers, particularly like breast cancer, have gotten better, and 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.760 I think some of that's due to early detection, but 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.600 you do wonder whether this curve is going to slide 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.920 back the other way now that we're seeing it in 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:49.640 younger people. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.439 Well, I mean prostate cancer for example. Right now we're 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.120 not doing the you know, post COVID, not doing the 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:59.000 exam anymore, thank god. And it's blood works, it's a 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.840 fecal study, stuff like that. So I mean that technology 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:02.280 is amazing. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.960 Yes it is. And one thing is when you're brought 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.000 about COVID. We have a thing here at OAC and 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.560 we tried to preach this to the hospital. Cancer is 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.239 not going to stop because there's a virus and a pandemic. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.960 Don't stop your screening, don't stop your mammograms, don't stop 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.400 your colonostrophies, don't stop your your yearly cascans of the 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.480 chest for smokers because there's a pandemic. Because this is 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.880 going to catch up to us later when they're diagnosed. 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.160 These patients are diagnosed at a later stage. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.000 Yeah, No one likes to go and have that prostrate 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.080 screening if you're a guy, or have your colonoscopy done 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.920 to check. But you know, I've known people before that 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:39.880 have said, man, I wish I would have because they're 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.360 they're now gone and they died way too young because 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.000 they never did that that work, and it's uncomfortable. 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.520 Who likes to go and. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.320 And I'm sure it's not pleasant for the physician either, 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.160 but it's something you have to go and do and 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.200 it's it's not it's uncomfortable and no one likes to 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.880 do it, but the end result is catastrophic because you're living, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.720 your family and a lot of life left. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.560 Again, it's doctor Andy Drossick. He is the president. 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.880 He's an oncologist at o HC Cancer Specialists and Columbus 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.720 and ken Wooden across the state as well. Doctor Drusik, 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.480 thanks so much for taking time out and you're really busy, 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.680 but appreciate the information this morning. 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:13.120 And thank you for having me. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.080 Yeah, certainly the best awareness campaign we have for this 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.760 are young people getting cancer and dying. And I don't 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.560 think you'll mentally we put it together because James Vanderbeek 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:26.000 I mentioned, just died at what forty eight, And there's 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.240 a pretty consistent pattern of people under the age of 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.240 fifty getting and dying from cancers because you don't expect. 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.200 There was a nineteen year old, nineteen year old Miranda McKeon, 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.160 I think her name was and with a ny she's 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.720 an actress, had stage three breast cancer and that's that's 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.360 extremely young, right twenty two. Lea died at twenty two 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.920 Dustin Diamond members saved by the bell. I think he 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.880 was in his early forties from carsonoma. And it just 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.760 it's a steady drug me to this. We just wanted 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.560 to go, wow, there's there's a trend going on here. 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.000 When you do that, though, you're you're surprised, I think, 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:58.640 and if you're younger, you also think that we all 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.000 were at some point infallible that we can eat and 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.160 drink and do whatever we want. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:03.680 We're good. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.680 Well apparently not because whatever it is and somewhere in 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.880 our environment and maybe also in our DNA, we don't 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.960 know these things are coming together with catstrok results. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:13.800 You know, when you see. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:18.680 The cancer rates go up eighty percent over the last 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.000 forty years, there's certainly something in the water and in 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.760 the food and maybe within us as well. So you know, 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.720 the best thing you can do is go get those screenings. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.280 At a time as we debate healthcare and I'm gonna 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.080 look at Congress shutting down again and certainly not for 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.760 health care, but you know, the one before this was 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.000 that people are pinching pennies and going lo I really 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:40.680 can't afford this. And if you don't have health care, 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.080 you're not going to go get the screenings, and you 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.640 may wind up becoming a casualty, becoming a statistic I 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.560 think the healthcare system is somewhat negligent in this as 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.320 well too. Yeah, we got to engage in care. And 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.040 if you're fortunate to have the care, you still have 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.400 to go. I know people who have insurance don't go 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.320 to the doctor and all the less they're sick. That's 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.280 a mistake. Especially used to be like over the age 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.040 of forty you got to go once a year at least. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.280 Hell now it seems like at twenty you should be 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.000 going once or twice a year, if indeed you have 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:08.919 the insurance, which is another big part of the problem. 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.679 Let me do a news update here. We still have 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.600 pretty heavy pockets of a fog. We'll find out when 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.040 that burns off. And no more Scott'sland on this President's 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:22.840 Day twenty twenty six, seven hundred ww sure fog yee 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.040 had them fog lights on today? 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:29.080 They pay dividends. May I got the snow meltain. 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.040 You got the ground saturation, you get the warmer temperatures, 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.120 and uh, you know when you get up to it's 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.160 thirty six already, we're going up to what fifty five 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.520 today roughly, and it's a nice day, and certainly it 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.760 looks like we're not going to see freezing temperatures. I 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.879 may save at night, obviously, but during the day for 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.480 a long long time, hopefully not till next year or 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.080 at least the fall. Anyway, Scott flowing here seven hundred 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:53.439 ww on this President's Day, twenty twenty six, I don't know. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.440 I had a lot of people had the day off. 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.240 I you know, people here have the day off. I 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.320 decided it works himply because I maybe it's a internal 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:07.760 protests against our government, right, they've shut government down. But now, okay, 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.320 now we've got to go out a little vacation. We 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.600 need a break. We've been we've been so busy not 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.679 doing anything we need. Do you know how exhausting getting 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.159 paid not to do your job is. It's so tiring. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:22.880 We need a sabbatical. We need a reset, all right. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:24.919 You can't really make you can't make this stuff your 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.679 early laugh or cry you laugh or cry One of 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.239 the fascinatings coming out and maybe there is hope at 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:35.560 this point with Savannah Gus Guthrie's mom Nancy, now in 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.760 its second week, is they found a black glove on 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.440 I think Friday. So if you watch it, and I'm 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.879 sure you've seen the camera video, which we'll get to 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.080 in a second, but you saw someone who's clearly wearing 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:52.439 a a latex or a vinyl glove on their hand, 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.359 and about a mile and a half away. And here's 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.879 how exhaustive the search is. About on a road a 0:18:57.920 --> 0:18:59.639 mile and a half away from the house, they found 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.240 on thee to her road, hanging off of looked like 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:11.880 a little tiny kectus a black vinyl glove and they 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:16.359 recovered that and found d n A evidence and it 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.960 appears to match the gloves of the subject and the 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:24.920 surveillance video and so we don't know if it's actually 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:26.879 that it's you know, could have been in the trash. 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:27.399 We don't know. 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.400 I mean that mile and a half away is pretty good, 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.439 and it feels like, Wow, they're leaving no stone unturned. 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.720 But now we're in our second week and Savannah Guthrie 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:39.040 has released he had another video and that poor woman 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.879 is just absolutely I feel so bad for her in 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:44.679 the family obviously, I think we all do. But you 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.439 just see the anguish on her face, like she seems 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.800 like a real good person and that's everyone who's around 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:54.120 her says that. But she's not contemplating maybe never returning 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.320 to work to the day show because she feels responsible 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:02.840 to some degree for her mom's dis appearance, because, as 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.119 typical when it comes to morning shows, and in this 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.720 case Network morning shows, she used her mom for material. 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.960 You know, her mom became featured several times on the show. 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.200 At one point they actually had a meal inside her house. 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.439 They saw the inside of her home in Tucson. And 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.280 now she's gone. And this poor woman is just beside herself, 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:26.159 beating herself up that she essentially caused the disappearance of 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.040 her mom and maybe the death or I mean, can 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.639 you imagine. It's just it's so heartbreaking. You kind of 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:32.359 want to tell her, Look, it's not your fault. You 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:33.800 did the best you think you could do. You know, 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.600 you just don't you don't think there's sick and twisted 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.320 people in the world, and clearly they are. And so 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.879 now FBI continues their search. The scary part about this 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:45.040 for me is you think about this. Okay, we're not 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.520 in our second week. Something is going to happen this 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:51.040 week that has nothing to do with the Nancy Guthrie case. 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.800 And as Savannah Guthrie knows, and that's why maybe she's 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.600 releasing more videos, it will start to fade from the 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.240 public conscience. This is the this is the week where 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:03.399 something in the news will happen. Something will happen in 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.840 the next couple of weeks, and this will become second 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:11.200 page news because we only as consumers, as meeting consumers, 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:12.760 only have the conscience. We only have the ability to 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:16.600 really balance one big story at a time. And that's 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:18.959 pretty common. It's always been that way. And Savannah Guthrie 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:22.560 knows this that something's going to occur to overthrow this 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.840 in the news cycle, to take over, and this will 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:30.399 become a bottom line story. And if that's the case, 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.920 then what happens is you don't have as many people 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.320 engage in the story, and therefore the chances of finding 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:40.080 the person responsible, person's responsible diminishes because no one's paying 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.639 attention to anymore. It'll become one of those she's still missing. 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:44.840 It'll just kind of fade away, which is it's horrible, 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.160 it's sad, and I feel badly for them, but it's 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.200 just the way it's always worked. And I think Samana 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:52.600 Guthrie is smart. She knows this, and so as soon 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:54.520 as a big story comes out in the news, that's it. 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.480 And even you know, I'm sure NBC will continue to 0:21:56.480 --> 0:22:00.600 follow this the Today Show because it's on to their own, 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.560 but you know, other news agencies and I think just 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.360 when it comes to social media and like we'll move 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.320 on sadly. It's just kind of how we are. I 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.160 think it's all sime. We have somebody on maybe tomorrow Wednesday. 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:16.720 Regarding the cameras themselves. So in America we all have 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:18.600 you know, we have more cameras who know what to 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.680 do with you may be I'm not using that stuff 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.119 at all. I mean that may be you, but you 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:26.800 still have stuff with cameras on them. And in that relationship, 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:31.520 are you concerned more about security or the surveillance date? 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:34.760 And because I don't think you can really balance them both, 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:38.480 I think you got to make a decision. So something 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.520 like one in five homes in America now have a 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:45.240 video door belt, there's nests, there's ring, and they made 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.840 big newsies past weeks Nancy Guthrie case and that Kesh 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.760 Pattel came out and said, well, yeah, she didn't pay 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:53.960 for the count and they let the subscription laps because 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.600 it goes to the cloud. You pay that there's residual 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:58.840 data located in back end systems. I have no idea 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:00.800 what that statement meant other than the fact that we'll 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.919 hold on just a second. Even though you're not subscribing, 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:05.840 it's still recording and uploading to the cloud. Is that 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:07.879 what you're saying. And then to unlock that material you 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.320 need you need to pay the subscription, which a lot 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.480 of people go, what am I paying this for? Well, 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.320 if you think about it, there's what twenty million households 0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.000 that have these things. That's a lot of disk space 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:19.919 and you got to pay for your storage. 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:20.479 That's what it is. 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.320 And the people to monitor this stuff and they got 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.840 to make a profit. That's where these subscription fees goes. 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:28.520 It's out there in the ether. I'm a cloud somewhere 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:31.480 and when you hear this, you go, wow, that may 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.560 help catch the killer or you go, whoa on just 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:38.600 a second, am I always under surveillance and the question 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.879 is yes. So the super Bowl ad came out and 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.119 you may recall her, maybe not the one that Ring did, 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:48.400 and initially in your drunken super Bowl state and maybe 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.280 drunk from alcohol, but probably from food, your food drunk. 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.160 You watch that ad and want, oh, that's pretty cool. 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:57.040 My dog is missing. And the Ring cameras create this network. 0:23:57.080 --> 0:24:00.960 So everyone who has the Ring branded camera uses some 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.760 of your band with them and your WiFi to share 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:06.440 the data and information. And so now we have facial 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.960 recognition technology. The same company that developed license plates or 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:16.480 readers for police departments and facial recognition technology for airports 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.720 and public places. You can now get that as predicted. 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:21.480 Now get that in your home product and your Ring 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:25.920 door belt, and so we can see your Hey, there's 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:26.240 your dog. 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:26.920 Your dog's missing. 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:30.480 You upload a couple of photos your dog, and the 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:35.080 flock system, the proprietary software, is able to create a 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.360 facial recognition thumbprint of the dog and go, hey, there's 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:40.760 a okay, is it an Irish setter? Is it the Dashian? 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.120 What do you got? A mutt with a curly tail, 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.320 no tail, whatever it might be, And they are able 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.240 to go, oh, it's a few blocks over we got 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.040 to hit on this house up the street. That's where 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:51.040 your dog might be. Go check that neighbor, Go check 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:55.160 that street, which is watch anyone? Oh, that's really cool. 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.000 I have a dog. I've dog, maybe McCAT I might 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.680 have a And then enough people want hold on just 0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.760 a second. If you can do that with a dog, 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.639 you certainly can do that with someone's face. And we 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.280 actually have had that technology for some time. I know 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.520 there's like my cue, which I think is a Chamberlain product. 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.439 Garage door openers has that feature on it that you 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.240 can activate it and if someone comes to your camera 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.040 in front of your camera near your garage door maybe 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.800 I don't knowin the Amazon guy whatever it is, they 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.800 will recognize that person's face going oh hey, or maybe 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.080 you're you know, maybe a relative came over. You know, 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.320 cousin Bob was dropping by, and you got his face 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.440 in there, you would tag You'd look at the video 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.480 and go, okay, that's cousin Bob, and then you'd put 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.520 that in there and the software would go, okay, every 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.280 time we see this face, the attachment is cousin Bob. 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.199 It lets you know cousin Bob was stopping by your 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:45.600 house or grandm or grandpa, mom, dad, kids, whomever, which 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.159 I think is pretty cool. And the same way now, 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.280 I mean even ring an extension of that is it 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.600 recognizes if there's a package at your front door. Now, 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.840 so it doesn't say hey, motion at the front door goes, oh, 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:57.680 a package has been dropped to your front door, because 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.320 it sees a person carrying a box or a package 0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:02.600 and then they set it down and now there's something 0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:04.840 in that view that wasn't there before and they just go, oh, 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:08.120 it's package. So we still have that technology out there, 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.280 just they've backed off the advertising from saying that it 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.080 is a something that's going to recognize a human face 0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.720 and that's that's what this is. And so as someone 0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:18.919 who's invested this to myself in these systems, and I 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:22.159 had to make a conscious effort on going okay, am 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:26.080 I worried about surveillance or am I worried about security? 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.719 And I think you come a point in time, and 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.800 this may be a paradox here because the older you get, 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.439 the more distrustful and paranoid you become. I don't want 0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.120 to say that, you know, you get older, you're paranoid. 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:40.880 That's probably a bad choice of words. You know, I'm 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:42.560 saying you tend to be a little more guarded, like 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:44.879 things are changing around you so much, like I'm not 0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.800 sure about all this stuff, you know, and you consume 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.359 news and the world's a dangerous place, YadA, YadA. Even 0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:54.560 though it's a much much safer world today than it 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.919 was yesterday, it doesn't seem that way. But you know, 0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.000 you go back to the wild wild West, you go 0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.480 back to the nineteen hundred, nineteen fifties, it was much 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.520 more dangerous society then. Now you hear more about the 0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:08.880 instances of disappearances, and you know, people killing each other 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.040 and certainly some the homicide rates, and like, yeah, I 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.680 get that, but yeah, as far as overall safety goes, 0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.800 and that's a whole bunch of different things besides someone 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:19.000 who's a predator factoring, and so the world's pretty safe place 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.720 from food and water supplies and national security and everything else. 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.760 But you know, we're in a data relas messages all 0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.879 the time, so we have a sense of paranoid. And 0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.840 the older you get because things change and you yearn 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:32.520 for the long the good old days, and the good 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:36.800 days really weren't all that good. History tends to kind 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:38.760 of wash out the bad things, you remember the good things. 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.919 That's just how we're wired as human beings. But at 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:43.240 my age now I look at it and go, you 0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.960 know what, I Oh, Okay, if I were younger, going 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.879 I don't what's going to something could happen in my life, 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.639 and I like, I don't. I'm I know I'm not 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:56.280 going to become a criminal. At this age, I look 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:57.760 at that and going, yeah, I'm I're going to be 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.159 a those are a high profile criminal. I would have 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.320 probably done that in my twenties, thirties, maybe forties, but 0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.399 by then you're like, I'm tired, I'm older. I just 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.840 said it's gonna go through the motions of life. So 0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:11.800 now with the boy in my life going, yeah, I'm 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.720 more worried about security than I am about big Brother 0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.000 coming to get me, because up to this point, I've 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:21.480 done nothing in my life remarkably remarkable enough to warrant 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:25.560 the attention of federal or local or state authorities. At 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:28.439 this point in my life like yeah, security for me, 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.240 So put the camera's up. But then the cloud, I 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:32.960 got this that you you know, and I like to 0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.840 see what's going on. Plus my wife, God bless her. 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.400 I love her to death, but she is a nosy cuss. 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.040 She Now she's she needs to know what's happening in 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.880 the neighborhood. So if she needs to see something, she 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.520 can pull up with a camera. Oh okay, I see 0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.560 what's going on. They're getting a pizza over there. That's 0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.560 a third night this week. All right, all right, get 0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.680 a hobby. You need to monitor with the neighbors at 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:57.240 door dashing down the street. But it's interesting too that 0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.840 we allow this stuff, and it's just it's mission creep 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.920 that you know, it wasn't long ago within our lifetimes, 0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:09.360 Like a camera was a big deal. You know, who 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:13.800 had cameras. The TV stations had cameras, and the police, 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.920 like they didn't have cameras, they didn't have body cameras, 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.040 they'd have dashboard cameras, they have all this stuff. Like 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.680 a camera was like, well, that's high technology right there. 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.480 I'd imagine. I went around, But like in sixty nine 0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:25.640 when Armstrong they've got a camera that they've got tied 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.040 in so you get live shots of the moon. I 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:27.840 was like, what what. 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:29.720 Can you imagine? 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:30.000 What that was? 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:30.160 Was? 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.400 Was th in nineteen sixty nine, were like the astronauts 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:33.760 are on the moon and they've got a camera and 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.480 they're showing you live shots of the moon. 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:40.080 That's crazy, and it used to be film. 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:42.080 Now. 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.960 The legendary Chick Poppy just passed away from Channel nine 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.200 by the way, who uh literally one of the best 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.440 photo journalists probably in the country, but happened to be 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.480 here in Cincinnati, just passed away, I think at eighty two. 0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.160 And the stuff that he shot was remarkable. But that 0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.240 you know, he worked at a time too, even before videotape, 0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.640 where you you'd shoot the news and then you'd have 0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.160 to rush back to the station and have the film 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.680 developed and you cross your fingers you got what you needed. 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.640 And then in the late sixties early seventies, like the 0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.000 advent of videotape and live shots came along with these 0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.840 big giant things. If you watched I have some historical 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.720 stuff from like a political conventions, Dan rathers on the 0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.360 floor of the sixty eight convention. 0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:21.640 There's a guy behind him as. 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:25.760 His giant backpack on and that was the battery in 0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.640 the consolea They could, you know, have a live shot 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.200 without a warrior, which was remarkable back then and it 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.600 lasted for like four minutes because the battery technology wasn't good. 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.560 You fast forward to today and we just take it 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.800 for granted with cameras. You know, our TVs have cameras 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.600 on them, or to what we're watching. Has a TV 0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:44.960 has a camera on it? Your computer monitor has a 0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:48.040 camera on it, your phone, you take that everywhere. You 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.040 forget there's a camera on there, and we just, oh, 0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:51.880 I'm getting a cell phone, I'm getting in a sealphane. 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:54.040 You know, I don't look that, suck your chinks on it. 0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.840 I'm gonna put a filter on this. We're doing stuff 0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.239 that you know, thirty forty years ago unheard of. Ten 0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.240 years ago is unheard of. And now it's just the 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.640 cameras are so ingrained in our life, in our society 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.640 that we just forget they're there and what they can do. 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:12.920 And you know, when you do that, when they become 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.120 omnipresent and they're just they're part of our lives, we 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.320 just don't think about them because they're all over the place. 0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.520 We have devices that are connected to the Internet. 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.880 I did that. You have a refrigerator that took to 0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:24.440 the internet. 0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.960 A dishwak we have a dishwasher, can hook it up 0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:28.680 to the wife, why do I need my dishwasher and 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:33.000 a Wi Fi for I will say that the washer 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:34.880 dry with a Wi Fi. That's pretty cool because it 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.640 tells you when your draws are done. Little thing will 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:41.440 pop up, go, hey, your draws clean, and that reminds you, Oh, yeah, 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.600 don't forget it because I'll turn stinky. You got to 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.960 put them in the dry or dryer draws off. So yeah, 0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.360 your draw is done. There you go. That's pretty cool. 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:52.240 Oh you left the garage door open. Oh, it's a 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:53.960 garage op. I'm going to look at this camera right here. 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.680 I think it's pretty cool. But I'm also cautious and 0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:03.160 measured and making sure that things are secure as secure 0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.960 as as possible. I would contend if you really really 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.680 want to, and maybe this is the case of Nancy 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.800 Guthrie too, is that if you all want to target 0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:13.479 someone and get so you know, a particular individual, household 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.320 or business, whatever, you know, you can you can monitor 0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.520 them and get on their their Wi Fi. 0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:19.880 You can see what they have in there. 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:21.800 If you're really really good at this or no, someone is, 0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.160 if you wanted to infiltrate them, you can do that. 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.000 You know, it tends to be the weakest passwords of 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.800 the people who wind up being compromised, and especially in 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.000 urban centers where there's a lot of I don't know, 0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.680 apartments or condos around and you could just pull it 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:39.360 up and take a look at it as opposed to 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.080 driving house to house. So but if you wanted to 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.520 target one person, you certainly could do that. That may 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:47.480 have very well been the case with Nancy Guthrie, but 0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.640 we have just it's become so ingrained like anything society. 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.520 We just now it's boiling the frog. That analogy. If 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.200 you want to put a frog in a pot of 0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:58.959 boiling water, the frogle jump out, but if you try 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:00.880 to heat up slowly, but the frog and there doesn't 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:02.840 know any better that we're all frogs in that regard, 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.040 are we? And you wonder where this is all going 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.160 in the future. And I think that's the fascinating part 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.120 about it. That's today And they way, oh, okay, well 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.440 it's too much with the facial recognition. But you know 0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.040 what it'll happen is at some point there'll be a 0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.160 high profan and maybe I don't think it's gonna be 0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.720 Nancy Guthrie, but now people go, you know what, that's 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.560 a feature that I really want. I want to be 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.080 able to find my dog. I want to be able 0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.000 to identify that person in front of my house. And 0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.320 I think enough people will throw as I did, they 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:33.000 wait and go security versus big Brother surveillance. You know, 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.080 you're always gonna have those two parties. And there's plenty 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:38.560 of people who absolutely want no part of it. You know, 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.080 won't even have people out there, won't have a cell 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:45.240 phone because they're worried about surveillance. But the minute you 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.360 walk out of your house, the minute you will go 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:51.040 outside those doors of your home, you're being recorded. Which 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.840 even makes this Nancy Guthrie disappearance even more confounding, is 0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.040 that there's so many cameras up all over the place 0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:00.400 at all times, in the ease and way which law 0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:05.080 enforcement can seamlessly put all those things together to find 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:09.399 out who done it. You feel like at some point, 0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:11.799 any day, now, any minute, they're going to announce an 0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:15.000 act arrests because they have enough information to go with. 0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:17.919 And yet here it is two weeks and now we're 0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.799 in danger of the story falling off the face of 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:23.000 the news, and you wonder what that means. At some 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.040 point somebody's gonna get captured. It's almost too damn hard 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.400 for them not to at this point, I guess. So anyway, 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.560 either you're on the prosecurity side or the big brother side, 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:34.080 just so I don't think you can go well, yeah, 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.440 it's a kind of blend to both worlds. It seems 0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.600 like an issue that's in an era of in a 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.080 day of everything's gray with a big gray. 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.160 Area out there. It seems like a black and white thing. 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.319 Like once you dip your toe, you're pretty much once 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.879 you go, yeah, I want a camera monitoring my front door, 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:50.480 and then you go, well, what about the back door? 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.239 What about the side? Or what about my garage? What 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:56.480 about It's just it's just a you know, modern society 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:57.759 we all got. We're all going to have to make 0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:59.919 that choice at some point, I suppose, so if either 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.520 word about security or surveillance, but you can't have both anyway. 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.240 We've got to get a news update in. I've rambled 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.680 long enough on this President's Day. Coming up next, actually 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:12.120 coming up tomorrow, it is Marty gro twenty twenty six 0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.080 at the Northern Kentucky Convention Center. Once again, I will 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.759 be King of Marty Grau with my Queen Sheila Gray 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.480 from Local twelve, who will join us next on the 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.319 show to talk about that event. I'm going to ask 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.280 her about the Nancy Guthrie thing. She's in the public 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.359 eye and how does she look at that as someone 0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.600 on TV and you know, all about her life. I 0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.280 wonder if that's something that most people in her profession, 0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.000 or even my profession for the Matta look at and go, wow, 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.200 that's pretty scary. Could that happen to me anyway? Sheila 0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.800 jump Shishi, my girl, Sheisha, I've known Chieshi for years. 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.279 My good friend Sheila Grell joined the show next afternows 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:44.000 on seven hundred W. 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:45.920 Well Dowdy Cincinnati, don't want. 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:51.480 To be an American idio Scott fluon show here. 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.160 This is seven hundred WLW. 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:57.360 Welcome to it. On this Monday morning, President's Day, twenty 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.120 twenty six. I am not the only person in media 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.840 that's working today. I just saw my dear friend Sheila 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.000 Gray from Local twelve wrap up the morning show over 0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:10.640 there with her Zog and everyone else. Good morning, she 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:11.439 she how are you dear? 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:13.920 Good morning, my king? How are you? 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.399 I'm well? My queen Tomorrow a martographer, homeless kids, twenty 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.080 twenty six, Northern Kentucky Convention Center. Five point thirty, the 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:24.200 VIP action begins, and then six thirty all the dominions 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.200 file in and there's food, and there's drink, and there's 0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.160 revel where we have a good time. People throw bread. 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.480 Sheila's up there with her infectious smile atop the giant 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:37.120 rolling painters truck aka the float she got the painter's right, 0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.200 it's fantastic. It's a beautiful time. 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.319 They were in here last week and I said, who 0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.520 came up with that idea of this crazy float traveling 0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:47.560 around the inside of a convention center. 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:49.240 I think it was Gordy Snyder. 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.279 But it's the thirty five year that they've been doing this, 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.200 more than three million dollars raised. 0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.600 It's incredible. Yeah, you get a lot of laughs and 0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:58.399 then you do something good all at the same time. 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.640 Yeah, one of these days, you know, you thirty five 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:04.359 years old. That's how old that that that the thing 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.680 is they move us around on. Yeah, take a paint 0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:10.880 Every year. There's a couple more screws loose, kind of 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:12.439 like the rest of us here, And I just wonder 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.280 one of these that we just fall into the buffet 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.640 table of we're just covered in ham and cheese and uh, 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:22.040 I have ways. Yeah, they're probably why we drowned, drowned 0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:23.040 in the vat at cheese. 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:23.480 Uh. 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.839 Of course, the Joe Burrow Foundation in uh in Fort 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.080 I'm sorry, Mercedes Ben's of Fort Mitchell, along with Jeff 0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.720 Ruby Foundation are our sponsor. We have three big sponsors 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.600 this year, which means more money for the kids, which 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:34.160 is wonderful. 0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:35.080 I know, it's incredible. 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:36.799 And don't forget our friends at Jeff Wyler they are 0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.719 always really incredible too. But I'm so glad that we 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:43.440 have these so many more backers behind us because we 0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.920 can do so many more things. We can provide so 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:49.440 many more meals for Welcome House, Brighton Center and Bethany 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.520 House Services because you know, the need is greater than 0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.360 it's been in a long time, with inflation and rising 0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.120 costs and things like that. Uh, people need a lot 0:37:58.120 --> 0:37:59.759 of help and we're able to provide it with this. 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:01.920 It's really gratifying. 0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:02.480 Yeah. 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.279 So this raises enough money to provide well over one 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.080 hundred and fifty thousand meals a year to those three organizations. 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.239 You mention your children to need and so they get 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.360 a they get a solid meal once a day for 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.239 an entire year, and and it always seems kind of 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.239 like it seems weird that we're going to go eat 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.279 and stuff ourselves for kids who don't enough to eat 0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.719 and drink, and but you know what, it works out, 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.239 and the kids are the benefactors in the agencies there 0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.240 as well. So I always loved one of my favorite 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:28.000 events of the year. 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:32.440 Mine too, And I feel like I always see tons 0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:34.360 of my friends and neighbors there. You're always going to 0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.320 run into people you know and have a really good time. 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.480 And DV eight is playing music this this year. The 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.560 Silent Auction is already live if you wanted to go 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.719 check that out and Marty grot nky dot org and 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:48.480 check out some of the really cool stuff. 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:49.520 There's of course some. 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.040 Joe Burrow stuff in there, of course, begles and red 0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.959 gear and lots of really good bourbon baskets and things 0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:55.319 like that. 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.000 So that's the fun part of it too. 0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.680 One of the big auctions from the Joe Burrow Foundation 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.480 is the dinner, so they're gonna auction out dinner with 0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.479 Joe Burrow's parents that they are. 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.799 The nicest people. I didn't really like that no. 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:13.360 They I'm so glad that they're gonna be gonna be 0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:15.920 there and be part of this because they they are 0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:19.880 so nice. I feel like they're the the the people 0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:23.800 who keep Joe grounded, keep him like a normal guy. 0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:27.200 You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's sweet people and 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.560 I I just heard that. I didn't know that was 0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.319 gonna be the big auction thing was dinner with them. 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:33.200 I'm not sure if it's their house are going to 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:34.760 take out the restaurant could be Skyline. 0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:35.160 I don't know. 0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:39.120 But the guy that I tell you there's one person 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:40.960 in this town that you're gonna have a tough person 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.840 out bidding because he's got serious, serious national broadcast money. 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.040 That would be the afore mentioned Tom Brunneman. Tom Brenneman said, 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.240 I'm gonna bid fast soon and often. I will outbid 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.800 anyone in that room. And a chance to have dinner 0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:55.439 with the with the Boroughs, he will. 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:57.560 Don't you think they would just go out to dinner 0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:58.080 with Tommy. 0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.040 No one really wants to hang out with tom. You 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:10.200 gotta gotta pay, he said, I'm going to be He said, 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.439 he's going to start the bidding. He's starting the bidding 0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.600 himself at ten thousand dollars. 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:15.480 How about that. 0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:16.200 That's awesome. 0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:17.560 Good for Tom. 0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.719 You're really going to make You're really going to be there, 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.439 and you're not going to stand me up this year 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:21.759 like he did. 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:23.680 I got sick as a dog last year. I don't 0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:25.560 know what hit me, Sheila. You did not want to 0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:29.239 be around me. Believe me. I think it was but 0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.879 I get the flu shot. I don't know. As I recall, 0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.680 I was sick as a dog, and I was very 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.640 sad to have to call and go, oh my god, I. 0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:36.080 Can't make it. 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:38.759 I will be here this year. I know it's very sack. 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.200 It's very sad, but I will be unless maybe it's 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.320 brewing inside me again right now. I don't know, Sheila, 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.080 but I will come. Yeah. I don't care how sick 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.759 I am. You know what if I projectile vomit on you, 0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:55.279 I'm sorry. I'll apologize. I had. Yeah, yeah, that's not 0:40:55.680 --> 0:41:00.040 that's not beads. He's thrown at the crowd. You you 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:01.800 got to bring this down your outfit. 0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:03.160 Do you have a special outfit? 0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.120 No, because we have to wear the what is it 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.120 the cape and the crown? 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:07.640 Yes? 0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:09.080 Yeah, so you don't really. 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.719 Need it, but part of the time you're not wearing it. 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:11.800 Have something? 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:13.720 What are you wearing? Did you go get an outfit? 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:14.640 You go to Nordstrom? 0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.280 I did not, but I found a cute purple top. 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.359 Cute your purple Marty you off? 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:21.880 You know. 0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:24.759 Yeah, I'm not going to be like Sarah Leice. She'll 0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:25.480 have a ball down the. 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:26.800 Oh my god, it's ridiculous. 0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.280 That will always I always. 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.960 I just like have so she has like fashion goals, 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.240 like that is the goal that women want. 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.239 To She Actually she has took today off just so 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.200 she could. She started doing makeup this morning. 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:43.120 That's pretty funny. 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:46.960 It's pretty true that. It's very true, very very very 0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.040 very true. Actually, I'm wearing a wear it. 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:53.440 I'm wearing a T shirt with your face on it. 0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.520 How's that? Oh that'd be cool. 0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:58.320 I would love that. Sign it for you? 0:41:58.760 --> 0:41:59.600 Will you a? 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.279 Sheila Grays here from Local twelve. She is my queen 0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.640 Marty Grat tomorrow for It's Homeless Kids northn Kentucky Convention Center, 0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.040 which is always a wonderful thing. I do believe we 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.359 do have some tickets left. Marty Grot twenty twenty six 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.000 dot org. If you happen to be in your Bethany 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:16.200 House or Brighton Center or Welcome House or Mercedes Benz 0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.360 a Fort Mitchell. You can buy a ticket, a actual 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:22.000 ticket there and come. It's like one hundred bucks VIPs 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.080 a little bit more, but it starts at five thirty. 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:26.680 An extra hour of eating and drinking, so you can 0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.600 have the big piece of chicken if that's what you 0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:30.040 want to do. But it all goes to get one 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.040 hundred fifty thousand meals a year to kids in need 0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.000 here in the Cincinnati area. You mentioned DV eight. Have 0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:36.480 you ever seen DV eight before? 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:38.120 I don't think so. 0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:40.560 Well, you don't. You don't stay past five, so that's 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:42.480 a problem because you get up into a godly hour. 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:43.239 It's ridiculous. 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:44.280 It's a huge issue. 0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:47.200 I miss a lot of entertaining things, going to bed 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:47.880 as earliest. 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:52.759 I really somedays is free with your tickets. Oh yeah, 0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:56.600 parking is free. I mentioned DV one of my most 0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.240 besties on Melissa Reed, who's just a lovely person, lead singer, 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:01.840 one of the most talented, gifted vocalists. 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.319 I think it's Cincinnati. I have seen them over the years 0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:08.000 many many times. That is that's a blast. They're absolutely great, 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:09.880 what a great show that's going to be. You mentioned 0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.120 the free parking across the street as well. You can 0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.479 get the valet, the bougie valet with the VIP that's 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:17.879 really really nice. And the nice part about it hill 0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:20.040 is by ten o'clock it's it's over and you go 0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:22.960 back and now you can take the next the day 0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.120 off and there's the Embassy Streets right across the street 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.520 if you want to. Maybe you messed up Valentine's Day 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:29.360 or forgot, this is a good Valentine's Day present. 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.799 It's an absolutely it's a great present, or you know, 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:36.319 just an ash Wednesday present now I'm just kidding. Wow. 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.359 But the other great thing about it is if you 0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.960 don't have like Marty Gras beads and things like that, 0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.839 tell them there. Yeah, so you're all taken care of. 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:48.560 You just and you can even buy your ticket at 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.040 the door. If you don't have time to get over 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.919 to one of the spots that we're helping to buy 0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:57.080 your tickets, you can take them up here. 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.200 Yeah, which is nice. So there's also a million auction 0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.080 items there too, and you lose your mind with all 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.880 the cool stuff that they have mentioned. The Robin Joe Burrow, 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.319 the the Dinner with the Burrows. But also I think 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:09.560 aren't they are they doing it again this year where 0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:13.239 they auction off and you will rub someone's feet? Is 0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:17.000 that what? Well, that's where like a foot massage, Shila 0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:18.520 Graham foot massage. 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:21.560 That is not I have not signed off on. 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.600 Why don't you put yourself out there a little bit? 0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:25.279 Huh? 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:26.960 You should do something for the kids. 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:30.759 That would be the kind of thing that would be 0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:32.800 on that would be on the internet forever. 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:34.359 You'd never get rid of it. 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.760 She'll why would you say that? That's dumb? Sheillot doesn't 0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.440 their feet are gross? You? Yeah, she comes to your 0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:42.920 house and gives you a foot massage. 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:43.279 How's that? 0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:47.360 No? Not, No, I'll do anything for the kids, but 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:52.319 I'm not doing that. 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.600 All right. We will be in the uh so right 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:55.239 next to the door. 0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:56.920 You and I will be there. We do pictures in 0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.160 the in the King and Queen Garb too as well. 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.920 And I think John John is our gesture, perfect gesture, 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:03.840 because that guy love to get dressed up like a 0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:06.719 He dresses up like those He really does, doesn't he? 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:08.680 Yes, it's like a little. 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.440 Kid with that stuff. He's got spider man, he's aid 0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:13.280 the of course Elf. He starts dressing the Elf costume 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:15.640 right after Thanksgiving. It doesn't He's still wearing it as 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.200 a matter of fact. That's pretty tired. Now he's got 0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:19.920 a Gester outfit for tomorrow night. 0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:20.720 What should be funny. 0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.759 Yep, it will be funny. I hope it has tights. 0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:32.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he needs Steen's investors and maybe some 0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:32.960 new tights there. 0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:36.919 Talk about the food really quick, the food and dress. 0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:39.880 We had people in here from Governor's house the other 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.320 day and they're making this short rib with mushroom of 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.120 zoto that will just set you free. 0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.920 You also have Kingcakes there, you have. 0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:52.640 Oriental Walk will be there with Chinese food, and tomorrow's 0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:56.719 Lunar New Year, you'll have New Orleans style food. Just 0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:59.560 so many restaurants from both sides of the river come 0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.120 over there. And don't forget all the different bourbons and 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:07.520 beers and wines, all kinds of spirits. It's really really fun. 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.399 Yeah, there's more than you can drink and eat there. 0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.160 So you know, they have little samples and you try 0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:12.319 it and you're like, well, I lot some more of 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.799 that and don't fill up on the first station there's 0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:15.880 the there's the advice for you. 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.160 That's right, pace yourself, Pace. 0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.040 Yourself, go around the room at least twice, and then 0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:23.360 it's kind of like going to taste the Cincinnati. You 0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.560 go around and you strategic go oh yeah that that 0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:27.080 that that, and then you go back and you hit them. 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.400 You got to you absolutely have to scout. There's some 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:30.560 advanced scouting going on. 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:37.040 I think there's fifty different restaurants and distilleries and things 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:38.520 this year, or fifty five. 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.239 You mentioned it lunar. Yeah, I mean right. It's all 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:44.120 the food and all the drink for one ticket. So 0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:46.359 I would say this is like the best Valentine's Day 0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.799 gift you can get because you're helping, you know, it's 0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:50.600 a good cause and that makes your heart happy. But 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:52.839 also the food and drink, it's it's fantastic. And it's 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:54.920 a Tuesday night and you can't get too crazy on 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:58.160 a Tuesday night. It's perfect, right, yeah, absolutely perfect. 0:46:58.239 --> 0:46:58.680 That's good. 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:00.920 You mentioned it's a lunar New Year. Is that is 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:01.839 that Chinese New Year? 0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:05.520 Yeah, it's Chinese New Year, and uh it's going to 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.399 be the Year of the Horse, the Year of the Horse. 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.640 Tomorrow night, I don't know how often Lunar New Year 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:11.800 and Fat Tuesday. 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.799 Co inside like that. I think that's kind of cool neither. 0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.080 But yeah, okay, so I gotta you gotta remember now 0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:19.720 it's still you're the horse, because Sheila, don't keep writing 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.320 the year of the Cat on your checks. You got it. 0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:24.400 That's the worst part about the Lunar New Year's I 0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.160 keep writing, I keep putting here the snake on my check. 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:30.760 I got to cross it out. It's terrible, It's absolutely terrible. 0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:38.200 I thought you on your chest, on my chest. You're 0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:41.759 still thinking about foot rubs. She she's foot rubs. She's 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.480 gonna put a booth though I've got them. I got 0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:48.160 Shila flustered lust Her face face now mashes the cutar. 0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.480 Her hair, it's all red. She's all red, looks like 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:55.440 a big sunburn. And I apologize in advance because I 0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.040 know you're gonna you're like, you're the nicest person in 0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.200 the world that you're gonna get pelted with stale bread. 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:02.240 I'm sorry in advance. 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:05.520 It happened last year, and you weren't even there to 0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:06.440 take it and protect me. 0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.840 A drill. Sheila got her nose broken. She she was 0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:11.239 off our for three weeks. 0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.560 I know hopefully they'll have like a plastic surgery basket 0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:16.880 just the case. 0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:18.000 Yeah right, exactly. 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:18.799 Yeah. 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:20.719 And the thing is I have nothing to do with 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:24.000 So McConnell started this years ago where his his drunk 0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:26.480 buddies would show up at Marty Grot. Uh and and 0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.920 there's a there's a Clossman bread stand there and all 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.240 they all they give you out is bread, just rolls, 0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:33.879 and I don't know if they have butter. 0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:35.200 I think it's just dry bread. 0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:40.359 And uh yeah, yeah, it's last year's and they tag 0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.040 it and go, here's some bread. And his buddies were 0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:45.640 like just started tossing bread at him, and then it 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:48.040 became hurling bread. And now that I've been doing this 0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:49.680 where well we've been doing this for like style last 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:53.120 ten years, it's the trend is continue where Mike will 0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.680 show up and throw bread at us. And we had 0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.799 Austin Almore and Tony Pike and we were getting absolutely 0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:02.160 raked over the a couple of years ago. Uh and 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.200 maybe subconscoence. That's why I got sick last year. I 0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:06.520 can't I can't handle the bread, the bread attacks anymore. 0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:10.160 It's unprecedented. Yeah, chick and I don't want to get 0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.120 in that and tholes, you got thirty five roles. 0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:13.879 Coming at you at one time. 0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.279 You didn't show up before school for the fight. 0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.840 Uh yeah, I got a test today. Mom, I'm sick, 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:27.840 but I'm sick going to school, so watch out for 0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:33.960 flying watch out for flying flying bread. So yeah, it'll 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:37.080 be It's a fantastic time. And of course this benefits, 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.840 this benefits of the homeless agencies in town, Brighton Center, 0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:43.359 Welcome House, Bething House for Kids. I want to can 0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.200 I take it serious for a second here and totally 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:47.360 Martin grad late because I was thinking about this before 0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.400 you came home today. I was just talking about the 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:52.240 Nancy Guthrie case, which of course is it's just horrible 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:56.560 watching Savannah Guthrie. Uh and just how how mostly broken 0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:58.000 to the point where I don't know if you saw this, 0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:01.680 but she's not considering maybe never turning to the Today 0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:05.160 Show because I've heard that because she feels that she's 0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.600 responsible for putting her mom on camera. And I thought, 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.680 you know, I'm talking to my girl, Sheila. Not that 0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:14.560 you've done that before, but you know you Today's Today's 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.040 TV Mornings. Basically, if you go back in the day 0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:19.600 to the you know, radio morning shows kind of like 0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:21.239 best friend waking up to you. 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:22.560 Guys, and TV have taken that over. 0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.000 It's been that way for a long time, and so 0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.719 you guys open up your you know, you you come 0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:29.600 across as friendly and open, and people feel they know 0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:33.200 you. You see what happened with her? Does that concern you? 0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:36.280 Does that like something you now thought about after this happened? 0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:40.480 You know what I thought about it before this happened, 0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:45.200 because I get concerned about people putting like every stage 0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:48.600 of their kids faces and lives online, you know. 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:51.080 And I'm not judging. 0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:52.759 I mean, everybody can do what they want to do, 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.600 but I'm kind of careful with like just what I 0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:59.480 post about my family and I you know, what Savannah got. 0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:01.600 I would hate for her to think that she's somehow 0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:02.640 responsible for this. 0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:04.040 She's not bad. 0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:06.160 People do bad things and she is in no way 0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:09.640 responsible for that. But I can totally understand why she 0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:13.600 would maybe want to take a step back from from this, 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.919 you know, being in the spotlight, after after what she's 0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:20.480 been through, you know. And I'm hoping, against hope that 0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:22.520 they find her mom and she'll be all right and 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:24.839 she can go and spend time with her mom and 0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:27.719 take a step back that way. But I think I 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:31.279 think the way with just the way the world is 0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:34.920 right now, I think everybody should be concerned with how 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.759 much we put out there in public, even whether you're 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:38.719 on TV or you're not. 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:41.920 I mean, you're talking about influencers and people. 0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:47.000 You don't know what's gonna make somebody decide that they 0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:50.040 like the way you look or somebody in your family looks, 0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:53.239 and you can because anybody can be a target. Unfortunately, 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.640 that's one of the dangers of social media and just 0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:58.160 how public everything is now. 0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.200 I kind of get where she's coming from. She's like, well, 0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:01.759 I put my mom on. I kind of made her, 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:04.000 you know, a mini celebrity. We had that they shot 0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.360 a something at her house, I guess in Tucson, and 0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.000 so some people can see the inside of her house 0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:10.400 and thinking that, well, you know, it's good for ratings, 0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:11.880 and it's also you know, it's that side of me 0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:15.560 and the personal interesting. And and now she's second guessing 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.200 that whole thing, like she had something to do with this. 0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:17.759 Oh my god. 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:19.640 It's just it's so heartbreaking because I wasn't. It's just 0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:21.120 like it could have happened to anyone. 0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:25.120 It could have happened to anybody, and I every time 0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:28.000 I see her, my heart just goes out to her. 0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:30.319 You know, you can just tell that she's she's just 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:33.960 tortured by this what no matter whoever had anything to 0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:36.400 do with it. Her mom is missing, and she's you know, 0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.600 I'm sure she's not sleeping, and I just can't. It 0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:40.480 just breaks my. 0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:41.680 Heart, that's the whole thing. 0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:44.680 But you can't, you can't look at her and not 0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:45.080 just be. 0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:47.440 Heartbreaking hundred percent. 0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:47.880 Anyway. 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:50.400 It's again, you know, you're not have no idea how 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:52.680 people react to things, that's sure. Whether you're you know, 0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:55.840 you or Savannah Guthrie or me or someone on social 0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:57.879 media and influence whoever it might be, you just don't 0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:00.160 know anyway. So what time you get in there, Tom 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.320 are like at what five thirty five twenty nine? 0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:06.879 I'll be there in place, ready to go, with every 0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:09.240 hair in its place by five thirty. 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:12.919 Five thirty if anything, She's prompt well, And that also 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:15.480 takes twenty minutes to figure. So we wear these capes 0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:17.800 with the with the helmets and everything, and it's always 0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:20.839 like a it's always this process puzzle. It really is. 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:24.480 Every year. Every year she does like I just forum 0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:26.799 she puts her stuff on. I've got this cape I 0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:28.360 got to put on, and it's like there's these weird 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.680 snaps on it. They haven't heard of Bell Crow. I'm 0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:32.640 the damn king. I should I should be able to 0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:33.720 be had someone beheaded? 0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:36.560 Yeah, you should have like your own staff of people. 0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.279 And it's just that always falls off I just because 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:40.279 people step on it. 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:41.920 It's like it's a whole thing, really is. It's a 0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:43.920 whole fun. It's a whole The things we have to 0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:45.080 do with to help the children. 0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:46.520 We wouldn't have it any other way. 0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:47.080 We wouldn't. 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:48.879 It's always a it's a great event and I love 0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.040 the I love the cause too. 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It's a virtual tickets, So go ahead. 0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:07.520 It's it's gonna help feed kids, and you have I 0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:09.600 guarantee you're gonna have a blast, bring some friends with you. 0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:11.919 She she I see tomorrow. 0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.279 All right, Scott, You'll see you Tomorrow'll. 0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:16.160 Take care as you goo My friend Shila Gray on 0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.759 the Scott Sloan Show This morning with news happening in 0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:21.040 about three minutes here, and then Mental Health Monday with 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.280 Julie h that's next seven hundred WLW. 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.560 Everyone needs help every now and then, and she's here 0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:30.080 to help us get our heads right. 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:34.360 This is Mental Health Monday with mental health expert Julie Hattershire. 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.640 It is pretty persistent when it comes to us as Americans, 0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:42.000 and that is the issue of rest in recovery because 0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.600 we were taught at an early age it's about productivity. 0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:47.560 It's about uh burn baby burn and burn the candle 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.839 at both ends and it becomes addictive. Right, It's part 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:55.040 of your DNA and that that productivity and that always 0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:58.360 on the go attitude really riaks havoc on our bodies 0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:00.280 and especially our mental health. So on that this morning 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:03.719 is our licensed mental health therapist from Beconnected dot Care 0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:08.279 in Clifton. That's Julie Hanisher. Julie, welcome, how are you? 0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:10.439 Uh oh wait a minute, we're losing your signal here, 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:12.600 we've got a bad sell. Hold on, I'm gonna put 0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:14.200 you on hold. I'm gonna pick it back up. See 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:16.719 you there we go, We got you. You're back now. Mean, yeah, 0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:22.799 I think that was our Our end is terrible because 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.200 that was gonna be a lot. I'll be burned out 0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:27.200 if I had to fill the next fifteen minutes myself. 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:29.959 Talking about just chit chat exactly. 0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:32.760 Idle, stupid chit chat. And people are tired of me babbling. 0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:37.440 So the core issue is higher achievers, right, and I 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:39.760 think a lot of people see themselves as higher achievers, 0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:42.160 and that means you never get to rest. That means 0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:44.000 you never get to turn it off, and even when 0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:46.160 you allegedly turn it off, you don't turn it off. 0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:49.600 So from a clinical perspective, here, being a licensed mental 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:54.000 health therapist, what are the underlying psychological mechanisms that make 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:59.640 us feel so uncomfortable or threatening to turn off our productivity? 0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:01.200 A lot going on. 0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:04.320 There, And you know, last week or the week before, 0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:09.839 we talked about cognitive reserve as being important for managing 0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:11.320 the effects of dementia. 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:14.640 And one of the things that I think we don't realize. 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.880 Is that mental energy is a finite resource that we 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:21.239 have a limited amount of it in any given day, 0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:25.359 and we need to replenish and rejuvenate not just our 0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:28.400 physical energy, but our mental and our cognitive energy so 0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:31.800 that we don't burn ourselves out. And there are a lot. 0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:32.759 Of reasons why this is. 0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.279 Hard to do, and one of the biggest ones is 0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:39.760 that information and stimulation comes at us twenty four to seven. 0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:44.080 It's really hard to shut ourselves down and unplug from 0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:46.640 all of the stimulation and all the information that's coming 0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:51.040 at us. And when we think of ourselves as high achievers, 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:55.480 are highly productive, and society rewards that, resting can feel 0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:58.920 self indulgent, it can feel like a waste of time. 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:02.319 It can feel like we're being lazy if we are 0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:05.000 resting and other people are still kicking it. 0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:06.960 And so one of. 0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:09.080 The things that we need to do is understand there. 0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:11.719 Are different types of rest that we need. There are 0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:15.120 seven actually that we've determined, and figure out what works 0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:16.960 for us in terms of how to get them, because 0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:18.880 what looks like rest to us might not look like 0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:20.680 rest to somebody else and vice versa. 0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:24.240 Okay, so is there a difference between there's mental rest 0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:26.120 and physical rust? Are they one and the same. 0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.400 No, they're different, Okay, and there and there are five 0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:35.280 other types as well. So physical rest is either it 0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:38.120 can either be passive or active. So it can be 0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:42.720 literally sleep, it can be lying around on the couch 0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:45.439 or sitting still and doing something. But it can also 0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:47.800 be active rest if you tend to be physically active, 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.880 doing yoga or stretching, or taking a walk that's not 0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:52.320 a speed walk, that's more. 0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:52.920 Of a stroll. 0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:57.760 So active recovery down days can be really important, or 0:57:57.800 --> 0:57:59.040 downtimes during. 0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.960 Your day can be really import No professional or. 0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:06.360 Elite athlete goes one hundred percent every day. They have 0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:08.880 days where they hit it harder and they have days 0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:11.240 where they do restorative practices. 0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:11.919 And they cross train. 0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:19.440 So football players do yoga, dancers do strength training, people 0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:22.920 who run do strength training, and people who lift do 0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:27.840 active cardio, so they cross train to keep their bodies moving, 0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:34.680 but to activate different muscles and different nervous systems attributes. 0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:37.920 So that is one way of getting physical rest. It 0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:40.520 still feels productive, but you're not hitting at one hundred 0:58:40.560 --> 0:58:41.280 percent every day. 0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:44.120 Mental rest, on the other hand. 0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:44.720 Is different. 0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:48.360 That's allowing your brain to do different things or nothing 0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:51.040 at all. So meditation is a form of mental rest. 0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:54.640 But if you are a numbers person, doing something creative 0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:57.440 or doing something that's more verbal, like reading a novel 0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:00.920 or painting, can be a form of mental rest because 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:04.440 you're shifting from one type of task or activity or 0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:08.080 thought process to a different type of task or activity 0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:10.680 or thought process, which gives the part of your brain 0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:13.520 that was doing what you primarily do a break and 0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:16.800 allows you to stretch and grow, but also gives those 0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:18.040 parts of your brain a break. 0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:22.360 What about folks who, certainly not me, can never turn 0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:24.720 their brains off. It's like a million things are coming 0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:25.720 at you all the time. 0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:26.480 What is that? 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:31.760 Well, first of all, shutting down from the things coming 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.120 at you can help. So another type of rest that 0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:36.600 we need, Remember I said there are seven. Another one 0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:41.360 is sensory rest, and that's disconnecting from your screens. That's 0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:47.160 disconnecting from external stimuli coming in. That's turning the TV off, 0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:50.000 turning your phone off, in your computer off, maybe lighting 0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:53.600 a candle or two, and just sitting with maybe a book, 0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:57.520 or sitting with a musical instrument that you play, or 0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:01.640 sitting with some music in the background. Disconnecting from the 1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:05.480 inputs gives your brain a chance to stop processing the inputs, 1:00:05.480 --> 1:00:08.520 because everything that comes in your brain has to process. 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:08.880 Yeah. 1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:12.920 Yeah, and making a conscious effort to disconnect from that, 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:16.960 to disconnect from the sensory inputs, can help your brain 1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:21.160 learn to shut down on its own without having to 1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:24.120 do that, so you prime it to be able to quiet. 1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:28.280 Doesn't have to be as significant as meditation, but it 1:00:28.320 --> 1:00:32.200 can be taking a walk in a park without your headphones, 1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:35.800 without a phone, just enjoying nature around you and shutting 1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:37.960 out all of the other stimulation. 1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:38.160 That's coming at you. 1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:40.280 Yeah, I would just think about all the stuff I 1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:42.240 gotta do when I'm done with my walk. What about 1:00:42.280 --> 1:00:44.920 just a good old nap? What about just I pass 1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:47.520 out for twenty minutes? Is that fine? Is that good? 1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:49.200 Is that the same thing as meditation. 1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:52.880 It's not the same thing as meditation, But naps are great. 1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:55.400 Twenty to thirty minutes is ideal. More than that, you 1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:57.480 start to get into a full sleep cycle, and that 1:00:57.520 --> 1:01:00.360 can be a problem. But twenty to thirty minute apps 1:01:00.400 --> 1:01:02.880 are ideal. I have a couch in my office and 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:05.920 I regularly take twenty or thirty minute naps in between clients. 1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:06.880 It's fabulous. 1:01:07.520 --> 1:01:09.800 It's really good for your brain. It's a quick shutdown 1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:13.320 and a quick power up again. And if you keep. 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:15.720 It in that twenty to thirty minute range, you can typically. 1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:17.840 Wake right back up and not be groggy. Anymore than that, 1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:20.120 you run the risk of being groggy because you're part 1:01:20.120 --> 1:01:21.640 way through a sleep cycle at that point. 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:23.560 At some point in my life, I'm going to treat 1:01:23.560 --> 1:01:25.040 it like ice, Like if you have an injury, you 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.360 put ice on, you know, whatever the sore part is. 1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:29.400 Twenty minutes of every hour. I'm going to nap twenty 1:01:29.400 --> 1:01:32.479 minutes of every hour. See how that works out good 1:01:32.480 --> 1:01:32.720 for you? 1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:34.840 And I want I want to see how I want 1:01:34.880 --> 1:01:35.760 to see how that works. 1:01:38.120 --> 1:01:40.160 I can't imagine that every hour. 1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:43.240 I'm digging twenty minutes resetting and I'll be really productive 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:44.360 for the next forty minutes. 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:45.960 But maybe there's something there. 1:01:46.240 --> 1:01:48.200 Julie Hatters Share, a licensed metal health therapist, on the 1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:50.680 show on seven hundred Wow Mental Health Monday, of course, 1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:54.280 and we're talking about resting is an important component here. 1:01:54.280 --> 1:01:55.680 We don't do enough of it. And I'm not talking 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:57.720 about sleep, that's a different thing, but we're talking about 1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:01.840 just mental rest because we're at higher burnout, your ability, anxiety, 1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:02.960 all those things you mentioned. 1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:06.760 There are two well seven core issues here mental rest 1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:07.760 versus physical rest. 1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:10.680 What else is there, Well, there was sensory which we 1:02:10.800 --> 1:02:16.320 talked about reducing the inputs. There's social rest stepping away 1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:20.120 if you are a social butterfly, stepping away from social commitments, 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:23.240 spending more time alone or one on one with someone 1:02:23.240 --> 1:02:26.360 that you really connect with, versus all of the social 1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:29.760 engagement which requires a lot of output of energy. We 1:02:29.800 --> 1:02:34.920 all need time when we are more isolated and more cocooned. 1:02:35.120 --> 1:02:36.560 Some of us need more than others. 1:02:36.600 --> 1:02:39.240 Introverts tend to need more than extroverts, but we all 1:02:39.280 --> 1:02:44.880 need some sort of social rest creativity, so taking a 1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:49.760 break from being productive and focusing on the output and 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:53.160 spending time focusing on the process. So the purpose of 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:55.520 creative rest is to focus on the process of. 1:02:55.480 --> 1:02:57.520 What you're doing, not the product or the output. 1:02:57.760 --> 1:03:00.560 So it doesn't matter whether you can play a song 1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:04.240 on the piano, but learning to play the piano is 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:07.800 a kind of rest, because rest basically is an intentional 1:03:07.880 --> 1:03:12.479 disengagement from effort. So you are disengaging from one type 1:03:12.480 --> 1:03:16.160 of effort and engaging in a different type of effort intentionally, 1:03:16.520 --> 1:03:20.760 so creative rest is important for many people's. Spiritual rest 1:03:21.080 --> 1:03:23.440 is important if you have a spiritual practice, whether it's 1:03:23.440 --> 1:03:27.760 a religion, or you spend time in nature or you meditate. 1:03:28.280 --> 1:03:31.360 Shifting from the world that we're in now to something 1:03:31.400 --> 1:03:35.360 with higher meaning for you, that shift intentionally is a 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:39.360 form of rest, and the last one is emotional rest. 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:42.760 So a lot of us you and some degree as 1:03:42.760 --> 1:03:46.920 a therapists, I present a not completely authentic face to 1:03:46.960 --> 1:03:50.760 the world. So being able to step away from that 1:03:50.840 --> 1:03:54.800 and be truly genuinely, fully authentic with some people in 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:58.480 your life, not having to present your corporate fath or 1:03:58.520 --> 1:04:00.760 your professional face or your tea your face, or in 1:04:00.800 --> 1:04:03.480 my case is a therapist face. But being able to 1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:07.320 just genuinely be truly who you are is a form 1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:10.160 of rest as well. But the idea is not that 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:12.880 you do nothing when you rest, it's that you do 1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:16.920 something different than what you had been doing since your 1:04:16.960 --> 1:04:19.640 attention intentionally to something else. 1:04:20.960 --> 1:04:22.080 Take me through what that looks like. 1:04:23.800 --> 1:04:28.040 Okay, so, if you are a numbers person or and 1:04:28.080 --> 1:04:30.040 you sit at your desk all day, let's say, or 1:04:30.040 --> 1:04:31.800 you're an account or in actuary and you sit at 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:34.400 your desk all day doing numbers work. A form of 1:04:34.440 --> 1:04:36.520 rest for you might be taking a long walk with 1:04:36.560 --> 1:04:40.200 your dog. A form of rest for you might be 1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:43.280 cooking a delicious meal. A form of rest for you 1:04:43.360 --> 1:04:45.800 might be reading a book instead of staring at numbers 1:04:45.800 --> 1:04:49.280 all day, reading a novel something for fun. It might 1:04:49.320 --> 1:04:51.920 be spending time with people that you like rather than 1:04:51.960 --> 1:04:53.480 spending time in front of a screen. 1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:56.280 Conversely, if you are a people person. 1:04:56.000 --> 1:04:58.880 And you are out in the world a lot engaging 1:04:58.920 --> 1:05:01.240 with people, of form of for us might be something 1:05:01.280 --> 1:05:04.520 more solitary. It might be having a conversation one on 1:05:04.520 --> 1:05:07.280 one with one person, a deep conversation, not a whole 1:05:07.360 --> 1:05:12.360 lot of less deep conversations. It might be shutting down 1:05:12.360 --> 1:05:14.400 and reading a book. It might be taking a nap. 1:05:14.440 --> 1:05:17.840 That might be going for a walk. It's intentionally shifting 1:05:18.720 --> 1:05:21.800 so that you're cross training your brain. Like you cross 1:05:21.800 --> 1:05:24.360 train your body as an athlete, you're cross training your brain. 1:05:25.560 --> 1:05:28.960 Okay, now that makes sense. You're just doing something like 1:05:29.000 --> 1:05:31.000 you mentioned music a couple times. I think that's I 1:05:31.000 --> 1:05:34.040 was reading something about Alzheimer's, Like if you learn to 1:05:34.040 --> 1:05:35.760 play an instrument, that's why we're just talking about this 1:05:36.000 --> 1:05:38.480 playing an instrument is wonderful for you because you're exercising 1:05:38.560 --> 1:05:40.440 part of your brain you probably haven't in years. If 1:05:40.480 --> 1:05:42.240 you're you know, something you pick up or just doing 1:05:42.240 --> 1:05:45.680 the act of doing that is generally most people their 1:05:45.760 --> 1:05:48.200 job doesn't involve learning and playing a musical instrument. If 1:05:48.200 --> 1:05:50.040 you are, if that's a hobby, ors that's great, but 1:05:50.400 --> 1:05:54.440 that is something that continues to pay dividends later in life. 1:05:55.280 --> 1:05:56.200 It absolutely does. 1:05:56.360 --> 1:05:59.360 Music is a language, and so if you learn to 1:05:59.400 --> 1:06:01.520 play an instry that you're learning a different language, or 1:06:01.520 --> 1:06:03.640 if you learn to produce music in some way, you're 1:06:03.720 --> 1:06:07.760 learning a different language. It very often requires physical dexterity. 1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:11.360 All almost all instruments require physical dexterity. If you're a singer, 1:06:11.400 --> 1:06:14.560 that's not the case, but everything else does. And it 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:18.400 can put you in community with other musicians, So it 1:06:18.400 --> 1:06:20.440 can give you a different kind of community than you 1:06:20.520 --> 1:06:23.560 might have with your golf league or your tennis club 1:06:23.640 --> 1:06:25.320 or your ma gen club. It can put you in 1:06:25.320 --> 1:06:29.000 community with other types of people who also are engaged 1:06:29.080 --> 1:06:32.960 in this activity. In this language, and music lights up 1:06:33.000 --> 1:06:36.040 a primal part of the brain that language does but 1:06:36.080 --> 1:06:38.960 that other things in our world don't, So it helps 1:06:39.000 --> 1:06:44.320 strengthen the brain language connection as well, because music is 1:06:44.440 --> 1:06:47.160 very often the first language we hear as babies, our 1:06:47.200 --> 1:06:51.200 mothers sing to us, so it's very often the first 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:51.880 language here. 1:06:51.960 --> 1:06:56.520 Yeah, yeah, all right, makes sense. What does perfectionism play 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:58.120 a role in this? I would imagine, just by what 1:06:58.160 --> 1:07:00.200 you're saying, if you tend to be a type are 1:07:00.240 --> 1:07:04.920 perfectionist by nature, that these burnout and challenges when it 1:07:04.960 --> 1:07:08.400 comes to mental health is really challenging. 1:07:07.960 --> 1:07:10.080 For you because you feel like you always. 1:07:09.720 --> 1:07:12.480 Have to be on, You always have to be on, 1:07:12.600 --> 1:07:15.040 you always have to be producing, and your product always 1:07:15.040 --> 1:07:19.080 has to be excellent to perfect, and so perfectionism often 1:07:19.120 --> 1:07:23.120 prevents people from trying new things and from taking breaks 1:07:23.200 --> 1:07:26.920 from what they're doing, and from growing and stretching and 1:07:27.000 --> 1:07:31.280 challenging themselves, because the goal is the product, not the process. 1:07:31.560 --> 1:07:33.680 The goal is the product has to be perfect, not 1:07:33.720 --> 1:07:37.440 the process needs to be fun or engaging or a 1:07:37.520 --> 1:07:42.440 learning opportunity or growth and enrichment. It's about the end result, 1:07:42.600 --> 1:07:45.480 and the end result has to be perfect, so they tend. 1:07:45.520 --> 1:07:47.520 People who are perfectionists. 1:07:46.800 --> 1:07:52.040 Tend not to take rest intentionally because that feels like 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:54.160 quitting or giving up or being lazy. 1:07:54.280 --> 1:07:56.000 Or unproductive, and. 1:07:56.160 --> 1:07:58.560 They tend not to like to do new things when 1:07:58.600 --> 1:08:02.480 they're challenging themselves because they don't want to make mistakes. 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:04.840 They don't want to be seen as being less than 1:08:04.840 --> 1:08:07.920 perfect by themselves or other people. And it's the product, 1:08:07.960 --> 1:08:12.280 not the process, that matters. So part of intentionally shifting 1:08:12.320 --> 1:08:17.280 your focus and taking arrest is focusing more on the process. 1:08:17.640 --> 1:08:19.639 What am I learning, what am I growing? 1:08:19.760 --> 1:08:21.800 What is stretching in me? 1:08:22.520 --> 1:08:24.559 Versus did I do that right? 1:08:25.840 --> 1:08:29.559 Okay? But but for people and I maybe high pressure 1:08:29.560 --> 1:08:32.519 professional or a doctor or first responders things like that. 1:08:32.600 --> 1:08:34.400 Yeah, what does? 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:38.519 The stakes are generally high and work and truly be urgent, 1:08:38.560 --> 1:08:42.519 But how do you help them navigate tension between legitimate 1:08:42.600 --> 1:08:44.519 work demands and need for rest because there's a balance there. 1:08:44.560 --> 1:08:46.400 I mean, if you're a Doeer doctor, for example, you 1:08:46.439 --> 1:08:49.320 can't How do you turn that off? Yeah? 1:08:49.360 --> 1:08:52.800 It's really hard though. People in high. 1:08:52.600 --> 1:08:56.120 Trendaline professions like that have a very difficult time turning 1:08:56.160 --> 1:08:58.679 it off. And one of the things when I'm working 1:08:58.680 --> 1:09:00.519 with them in my practice that I will tell them 1:09:00.560 --> 1:09:04.080 is that rest and self care are good ethics because 1:09:04.120 --> 1:09:07.400 you cannot make good decisions for your patients or the 1:09:07.439 --> 1:09:11.120 people you are rescuing, and you cannot operate at full 1:09:11.160 --> 1:09:14.040 capacity if you are tapped out, if you are burned out, 1:09:14.080 --> 1:09:17.000 if you're hungry, if you're tired, if you're angry, it's 1:09:17.080 --> 1:09:18.640 really hard to operate. 1:09:18.200 --> 1:09:19.200 At full capacity. 1:09:19.520 --> 1:09:24.280 So taking care of yourself is ethical and actually benefits 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:27.280 the people that you are serving more than pushing yourself 1:09:27.320 --> 1:09:31.240 past your limit. I don't want an er doc working 1:09:31.280 --> 1:09:33.599 on me if I'm brought in with a heart attack, 1:09:33.920 --> 1:09:37.920 who has not eaten, not slept, not had a chance 1:09:37.960 --> 1:09:39.960 to go to the bathroom, not had a good solid 1:09:40.000 --> 1:09:41.679 drink of water, and who's been. 1:09:41.600 --> 1:09:42.960 On shift for twelve hours. 1:09:43.000 --> 1:09:45.400 I mean, if that's the only person available, fine, but 1:09:45.479 --> 1:09:49.680 I'd really rather have one who's been fed and hydrated 1:09:49.960 --> 1:09:54.559 and had some downtime and has is really fully on 1:09:54.640 --> 1:09:58.280 board and fully present, rather than someone who's running on fumes. 1:09:58.680 --> 1:10:03.280 So rest and so self care are ethics issues for 1:10:03.439 --> 1:10:05.840 people who are taking care of other people in high 1:10:05.920 --> 1:10:06.920 risk situations. 1:10:08.040 --> 1:10:10.760 For me, like, if I schedule a workout or something 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:13.200 that's non negotiable, that's like my time, and I've learned 1:10:13.200 --> 1:10:15.040 to do that over the years ago. No, I need 1:10:15.080 --> 1:10:17.000 some me time. Or whatever it might be doing. And 1:10:17.040 --> 1:10:20.920 I've been more forceful about that, and there's some people like, well, Okay, 1:10:21.000 --> 1:10:23.160 I guess I can give that up. But it sounds 1:10:23.200 --> 1:10:25.439 to me like you should be scheduling rest, like it 1:10:25.479 --> 1:10:26.599 should be on your schedule. 1:10:27.760 --> 1:10:31.200 I think you should, and I think that some people 1:10:31.240 --> 1:10:33.200 are better at doing that than other people. So I 1:10:33.240 --> 1:10:35.960 will tell you I'm not great at it, but I 1:10:36.000 --> 1:10:38.600 will tell you that my sessions are fifty minutes, not 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:41.599 a full hour, And in that ten minutes in between clients, 1:10:41.960 --> 1:10:44.559 I let my brain disengage from what I was thinking 1:10:44.600 --> 1:10:47.240 about what was going on in my room and start 1:10:47.280 --> 1:10:49.760 to think a little bit about what's coming next for me. 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:52.320 But I take that ten minutes to just kind of 1:10:52.920 --> 1:10:55.360 take a pause, take a reset, get a drink of water, 1:10:55.479 --> 1:10:57.240 walk up and down the hall a couple of times, 1:10:57.240 --> 1:10:59.400 and then I'm ready for my next client. When I 1:10:59.479 --> 1:11:02.200 was first out, I would do sixty minute sessions and 1:11:02.200 --> 1:11:04.200 I would roll from one client to the next time 1:11:04.280 --> 1:11:06.160 to the next, and I found that I was not 1:11:06.320 --> 1:11:09.120 nearly as effective in doing that. So I literally had 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:11.800 ten minutes of rest built into my workday every hour 1:11:11.880 --> 1:11:12.599 on the. 1:11:12.560 --> 1:11:14.200 Fifty minutes just to take a break. 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:16.839 Some people don't. Yeah, some people don't have the ability 1:11:16.840 --> 1:11:18.960 to do that, which makes perfect sense. But if you're 1:11:18.960 --> 1:11:21.559 at work and you get a lunch break of any kind, 1:11:21.920 --> 1:11:24.679 take ten or fifteen minutes of that and do something different. 1:11:24.720 --> 1:11:26.880 Don't eat lunch at your desk, scrolling your email the 1:11:26.880 --> 1:11:29.280 whole time. Take ten or fifteen minutes of that and 1:11:29.320 --> 1:11:32.559 take a walk or close your eyes for a few minutes. 1:11:32.560 --> 1:11:33.680 If you're in a place where you. 1:11:33.640 --> 1:11:37.600 Can do that, or get outside, or have a conversation 1:11:37.760 --> 1:11:40.000 with a friend or a coworker, call your mom or dad, 1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:44.400 do something different, take a break from what you are doing. 1:11:44.520 --> 1:11:46.639 You can't hit at one hundred percent all the time. 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:49.640 It's not healthy and it's not sustainable. 1:11:51.080 --> 1:11:54.240 Julie hattersh here our license mental health therapist on the 1:11:54.280 --> 1:11:56.520 Scott's Loan show Every Monthing Mental Health Monday. 1:11:56.200 --> 1:11:57.040 With Julie H. 1:11:57.040 --> 1:11:58.960 So you can get a hold of her her handles 1:11:59.000 --> 1:12:01.960 heye Julie au l I e at B the letter 1:12:01.960 --> 1:12:04.400 B connected dot care, Hey Juliet B connected dot care 1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:06.080 as an email if you want to shoot her something 1:12:06.080 --> 1:12:07.960 and say hey, good job, or are calling you out 1:12:08.000 --> 1:12:09.400 on something, or maybe you've got an idea for a 1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:12.120 future topics. She's there for it and we talk every 1:12:12.120 --> 1:12:14.880 Monday morning and next Monday, no exception. Julie, have a 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:15.240 great day. 1:12:15.280 --> 1:12:16.599 Thanks again. I appreciate you so much. 1:12:17.400 --> 1:12:18.759 Thank you. Talk to you later BYFYE. 1:12:18.920 --> 1:12:20.920 News is on the way in just about five minutes. 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:23.400 Your full update as a fog burns off looking at 1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:27.400 the decent day and warm too warm, Warm Warm, Scott's 1:12:27.439 --> 1:12:30.559 slown down seven hundred WW reminder, iHeartMedia and the Big One. 1:12:30.640 --> 1:12:33.040 Salute Cincinnati's own Procter and gamble. If you've got someone 1:12:33.080 --> 1:12:35.400 there you'd like for us to recognize on the air, 1:12:35.800 --> 1:12:37.920 just text us their name to five to one, eight 1:12:38.000 --> 1:12:40.599 eight one and be listening. Do you want to be 1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:42.160 an American idiot? 1:12:42.880 --> 1:12:45.400 Pull me back on seven hundred wl W on this 1:12:45.720 --> 1:12:50.519 President's Day and coming off of the vapor trail of love, 1:12:52.160 --> 1:12:53.160 vapor trail of love? 1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:54.600 What the hell are you talking about? What are you? 1:12:54.640 --> 1:12:57.640 I still my love at bit Valentine's Day? 1:12:57.680 --> 1:12:57.800 Boy? 1:12:57.880 --> 1:13:00.920 If you cock this one up, be coming at your 1:13:01.000 --> 1:13:04.240 heart today. Today is the day where post Valentine's Day 1:13:04.280 --> 1:13:09.639 see breakups and of course the divorce train. A lot 1:13:09.640 --> 1:13:12.479 of divorces happening in the next couple of weeks because 1:13:12.479 --> 1:13:18.720 you cocked ub Valentine's Day. I do that kind of it. 1:13:18.800 --> 1:13:21.040 I often don't do just straight up book authors, but 1:13:21.080 --> 1:13:24.599 this one caught my attention. Is a he's a divorce 1:13:24.640 --> 1:13:27.640 attorney's don like thousands of divorce cases and says, you 1:13:27.640 --> 1:13:30.160 know what, maybe I'll use this power of evil for 1:13:30.200 --> 1:13:32.240 good and switch to the bright side rather than the 1:13:32.320 --> 1:13:36.160 dark side. And uh, you call it the ten Commands 1:13:36.160 --> 1:13:38.000 of Marriage Secrets of a Divorce Lawyer, which I think 1:13:38.080 --> 1:13:40.120 is a great idea of who knows better about staying 1:13:40.120 --> 1:13:42.799 together than the divorce lawyer. Congratulations, David Erdaman. 1:13:42.640 --> 1:13:43.280 This is brilliant. 1:13:43.960 --> 1:13:46.200 Well, thank you, Scott. It's a pleasure to be on 1:13:46.280 --> 1:13:48.800 the big One this morning. Cincinnati is one of my 1:13:48.840 --> 1:13:51.120 favorite cities. Pleasure to speak with you. 1:13:51.240 --> 1:13:52.800 Thank you appreciate it. Where are you from now? Where 1:13:52.800 --> 1:13:53.240 you live now? 1:13:53.800 --> 1:13:56.519 Well, I live in the other Queen city, Charlotte, North Carolina. 1:13:56.520 --> 1:13:58.800 Oh okay, beautiful area of the country. We hopefully will 1:13:58.800 --> 1:14:03.439 be able to travel again soon and exchange. But so 1:14:03.720 --> 1:14:05.759 in this area, this is interesting. So you're like slitting 1:14:05.760 --> 1:14:10.559 your own throat, aren't you, Scott. 1:14:10.680 --> 1:14:13.200 The truth of the matter is, lawyers are sworn to 1:14:13.320 --> 1:14:16.360 help their clients' best interests, and we really are. I 1:14:17.120 --> 1:14:20.000 give credit to even my imposing lawyers for that. But 1:14:20.680 --> 1:14:23.719 the best interest of many of these clients, in fact, 1:14:23.920 --> 1:14:27.640 is to work on saving their marriage. And I'm not 1:14:28.240 --> 1:14:31.800 I don't try to lead them, I try to follow them. 1:14:32.120 --> 1:14:35.280 But when you think about it, in a divorce, there's 1:14:35.320 --> 1:14:38.280 a possibility that only one of the people wants to divorce, 1:14:38.640 --> 1:14:40.280 and the other one might be the one coming to 1:14:40.280 --> 1:14:44.960 see me. So that person wants to save her marriage 1:14:45.080 --> 1:14:48.719 or his marriage. And I've sworn myself throughout my career 1:14:48.720 --> 1:14:51.120 to try to help people who want to save their 1:14:51.160 --> 1:14:52.000 marriage to do so. 1:14:52.600 --> 1:14:54.840 All right, So what do you typically see number one 1:14:55.040 --> 1:14:58.360 cause for divorce? Is it infidelity or money? 1:14:59.640 --> 1:15:05.720 Money is the biggest problem for young couples, but infidelity 1:15:06.400 --> 1:15:10.599 and addiction are the two big problems that I see 1:15:11.400 --> 1:15:14.599 lightelong in marriages, and addiction gets to be a larger 1:15:14.640 --> 1:15:15.960 problem as people get older. 1:15:17.400 --> 1:15:19.479 And probably that are right, So money when you're younger, 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:23.160 infidelity probably in your middle aged years, and then addiction 1:15:23.560 --> 1:15:25.080 in the later stages of the marriage, Am I right? 1:15:25.640 --> 1:15:26.000 Yes? 1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:28.200 Yes? In generalities, yeah. 1:15:28.080 --> 1:15:29.960 Okay, you can almost break it up in age groups. 1:15:29.960 --> 1:15:34.680 Then in that case, well, it's shocking to me. What 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:38.280 a I'm not against people having a drink of alcohol, 1:15:38.400 --> 1:15:41.680 but the scourge of alcoholism is more widespread than the 1:15:42.120 --> 1:15:44.640 average person might imagine unless they're living it and. 1:15:44.600 --> 1:15:48.759 They're yeah, I have friends that fall into that category 1:15:48.800 --> 1:15:51.559 of the divorce because a spouse got into that or 1:15:51.640 --> 1:15:52.200 other things. 1:15:52.240 --> 1:15:54.240 And yeah, I totally could see that. 1:15:54.320 --> 1:15:56.280 We tend to older, We get, we get, I mean 1:15:56.280 --> 1:15:58.080 to guess, Well, let's start at the beginning here. Let's 1:15:58.120 --> 1:15:59.760 let's rewind, David, we got so, you got some time, 1:15:59.760 --> 1:16:01.640 I got some time here. You don't charge by the 1:16:01.840 --> 1:16:03.559 you don't charge by the minute. Do you You know one 1:16:03.600 --> 1:16:03.880 of those. 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:08.040 Attorneys of the first call is always. 1:16:10.040 --> 1:16:11.040 All right, it's contingency. 1:16:11.040 --> 1:16:15.320 I like that, So so counselor we'll start with you. 1:16:15.320 --> 1:16:17.599 You know, okay, So you're married, in your twenties, your thirties, 1:16:17.600 --> 1:16:20.000 you're just starting out. You've got college loans maybe or 1:16:20.040 --> 1:16:22.920 maybe just you know, you're working jobs, multiple jobs, you 1:16:22.960 --> 1:16:25.320 never see each other. Money's tight, You're going to break 1:16:25.360 --> 1:16:27.639 up over money? Why why would you split up over money? 1:16:27.640 --> 1:16:29.080 Why would you go in separate directions? 1:16:29.160 --> 1:16:29.400 Is it? 1:16:29.520 --> 1:16:32.320 Or is it because one spouse has different spending habits 1:16:32.320 --> 1:16:32.920 in the other. 1:16:33.640 --> 1:16:36.280 Well, by the way, I don't know that you ask 1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:38.960 what the biggest problem is. Money is the biggest challenge, 1:16:39.000 --> 1:16:43.240 and ideally they overcome that challenge. But yes, indeed, when 1:16:43.280 --> 1:16:46.639 people are single, when I was single, when you were single, 1:16:46.680 --> 1:16:49.360 when any of your listeners are single, they can live 1:16:49.400 --> 1:16:51.679 their life and spend their money the way they want. 1:16:52.000 --> 1:16:54.879 But when they get into a partnership called the marriage, 1:16:55.280 --> 1:17:00.559 then how they spend their money affects both people, and 1:17:00.640 --> 1:17:06.920 so it's a relearning process to think together about planning 1:17:06.920 --> 1:17:08.720 a life and planning the finances. 1:17:09.560 --> 1:17:11.759 And I think that's an important thing is you typically 1:17:12.160 --> 1:17:15.120 would see a couple come together and maybe let's say 1:17:15.600 --> 1:17:19.800 she has her sense about her financially in getting a 1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:22.759 relationship with a guy who maybe has some past debt, 1:17:23.360 --> 1:17:25.639 bad credit, that sort of thing. What do you recommend 1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:28.040 when you're first getting together, you get engaged if it's 1:17:28.280 --> 1:17:31.040 and that's probably typical. Right, one is a good saver 1:17:31.360 --> 1:17:34.840 and maybe has a good monetary fiscal policy, and another 1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:35.599 one not so much. 1:17:35.600 --> 1:17:36.920 What do you recommend a couple like that? 1:17:37.439 --> 1:17:39.920 Well, number one, you're exactly right. You'd be surprised how 1:17:40.000 --> 1:17:46.559 much of undisclosed debt comes into early marriages. But the answer, 1:17:46.560 --> 1:17:50.200 of course is communication, and the answer is truthfulness. And 1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:53.559 a marriage is off to a bad start if the 1:17:53.720 --> 1:17:58.760 couple has not been able to communicate openly with each 1:17:58.800 --> 1:18:03.479 other about who the a are. A longer engagement might 1:18:03.520 --> 1:18:06.880 be a good idea. Getting to know this person in 1:18:06.960 --> 1:18:09.840 all dimensions is always a good idea. 1:18:10.840 --> 1:18:13.200 So let's say, if it's your kid, your son, or 1:18:13.200 --> 1:18:16.519 your daughter, they're engaged, background checked, how do you find 1:18:16.520 --> 1:18:18.720 out about the real find because that happens right you 1:18:18.840 --> 1:18:20.400 all of a sudden, Hey we're married. Oh, by the way, 1:18:20.400 --> 1:18:24.520 I didn't tell you. I've had three bankruptcies nowadays. 1:18:25.560 --> 1:18:27.760 By the way, I have two grown daughters. They're both 1:18:27.880 --> 1:18:30.719 very happily married and have done wonderfully in their choice 1:18:30.720 --> 1:18:36.840 of spouses. But nowadays I hear many parents of that 1:18:36.840 --> 1:18:39.120 that would be the would be grandparents, the parents of 1:18:39.240 --> 1:18:42.880 a daughter or son getting married, paying for their own 1:18:43.240 --> 1:18:47.800 private investigative report to find out about the person that 1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:51.360 their son or daughter is marrying. Yes, I'm seeing that 1:18:51.400 --> 1:18:52.920 a lot these days. 1:18:53.040 --> 1:18:55.679 Very interesting. Yeah, But you know, I mean there's another 1:18:55.680 --> 1:18:55.960 thing too. 1:18:55.960 --> 1:18:57.880 Now, Graham and Grepp are going to pull a you know, 1:18:57.960 --> 1:18:59.880 hire a p I or somebody to follow his kid 1:18:59.920 --> 1:19:02.320 or around. And then you find out something that may 1:19:02.320 --> 1:19:05.840 be a little on savory. How do you present that 1:19:05.880 --> 1:19:07.679 to your kid without reckoning a relations because that looks 1:19:07.720 --> 1:19:09.639 like you're trying to split them up. And now you're 1:19:09.640 --> 1:19:11.760 gonna put you're gonna put your relationship with your kids 1:19:11.760 --> 1:19:12.240 in jeopardy. 1:19:13.040 --> 1:19:15.800 Oh, you're exactly right. And uh. And parents have to 1:19:15.800 --> 1:19:18.960 trust their adult children to make good decisions. But parents 1:19:19.000 --> 1:19:23.080 should always feel that they have license to give advice. 1:19:23.720 --> 1:19:26.280 And there you know, there was an old soul song 1:19:26.400 --> 1:19:30.800 that said, take time to know her. I don't remember 1:19:30.800 --> 1:19:33.679 who sang that one, but take time to know him, 1:19:33.880 --> 1:19:38.600 take time to know her. I'm not a big advocate 1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:41.760 for the private investigator, and I'm very much not a 1:19:41.760 --> 1:19:46.080 big advocate for meddling parents. But I am a big 1:19:46.120 --> 1:19:53.080 advocate for a would be engaged person to make sure 1:19:53.600 --> 1:19:56.920 they know who they are marrying and whatever degree of 1:19:57.120 --> 1:20:01.320 assurances they need. If it requires private investigator, at least 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:04.120 a Facebook search, my goodness, they ought to do that. 1:20:04.200 --> 1:20:06.360 Yeah, well, how about this, If you've got the means, 1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:09.439 hire an investigator for him, hire an investigator for her, 1:20:09.479 --> 1:20:14.679 and then just have an exchange notes, I got nothing 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:17.080 to hide, and then that takes this thing off it right. 1:20:17.920 --> 1:20:22.200 Well, well there's a problem there. The problem is that 1:20:22.200 --> 1:20:26.560 that introduces i'll call it a poison in the relationship. 1:20:27.080 --> 1:20:31.639 It's the it's the it's it's both. It's both. It's 1:20:31.760 --> 1:20:35.840 both encouraging of trust because you say, okay, I know 1:20:35.920 --> 1:20:40.559 all about you, but it's also infecting the relationship with 1:20:40.720 --> 1:20:46.040 suspicion and mistrust. And and I like to say in 1:20:46.080 --> 1:20:48.680 the book, you know, my book's called Secrets of a 1:20:48.720 --> 1:20:53.080 Divorce Lawyer. Uh, the Ten Commandments of Marriage. I I 1:20:53.520 --> 1:20:57.000 say that the person to whom one marries is the 1:20:57.040 --> 1:21:00.639 person they must ultimately trust more than any other person 1:21:00.720 --> 1:21:05.840 on the globe. And so they've got to build trust. 1:21:06.439 --> 1:21:08.960 The best way, of course, is for a person to 1:21:08.960 --> 1:21:14.040 be self disclosing about their background. If they've got three bankruptcies, 1:21:14.439 --> 1:21:17.000 tell the person to get honest. 1:21:17.080 --> 1:21:17.559 If it comes. 1:21:17.720 --> 1:21:19.479 Well, here's the thing she asked her. He asked to 1:21:19.479 --> 1:21:21.200 trust depending on where your kid is. But guess what, 1:21:21.240 --> 1:21:23.320 I'm the father. I don't trust. 1:21:23.000 --> 1:21:26.680 Anybody, and many and many fathers do not. 1:21:26.880 --> 1:21:30.400 And that's my job. My job is to not trust anybody. 1:21:30.920 --> 1:21:33.960 Well, and and and that's right. But I say, if 1:21:33.960 --> 1:21:36.280 you have a son or a daughter, let's say. 1:21:36.160 --> 1:21:38.160 You have a daughter, I don't trust them either. 1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:43.320 All right, Well, then then then don't marry them. 1:21:45.640 --> 1:21:46.360 Advice. 1:21:47.439 --> 1:21:54.080 But the persons who are getting married must trust each other, because, 1:21:54.080 --> 1:21:58.360 as I says in the book, after a year of marriage, 1:21:59.240 --> 1:22:02.040 a person should closer to their spouse, and their spouse 1:22:02.040 --> 1:22:05.280 should know them better than their parents would, than their 1:22:05.320 --> 1:22:08.880 siblings do, than their best friends do, because they know 1:22:08.960 --> 1:22:10.599 everything about the person after a year. 1:22:10.640 --> 1:22:13.000 Gotcha, all right? So who better than a divorcelader advised 1:22:13.000 --> 1:22:15.679 people to stay married. David Edmud's an attorney. He wrote 1:22:15.720 --> 1:22:18.719 The Secrets of a Divorce loader all the stuff he sees. 1:22:18.720 --> 1:22:20.479 You put the book and said, well, if you read this, 1:22:20.600 --> 1:22:22.679 then everything you need to know about having a happy 1:22:22.680 --> 1:22:24.920 marriage is standing together is right here. It's brilliant, actually, 1:22:24.960 --> 1:22:27.479 if you think about it. So we move from the 1:22:27.479 --> 1:22:29.400 younger ages, where it's money real quick here to the 1:22:29.400 --> 1:22:32.400 infidelity of the middle years, the proverbial seven year itches 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:35.080 they used to call it, right, which is right near 1:22:35.120 --> 1:22:37.120 what thirties forties probably. 1:22:39.240 --> 1:22:43.160 People. I saw a note just this past week of 1:22:43.240 --> 1:22:48.920 somebody turning forty and how how cataclysmic it was to 1:22:49.000 --> 1:22:51.559 this individual to be turning forty. It was a woman, 1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:57.240 and it makes people every decade at least makes people 1:22:57.280 --> 1:22:59.599 look at their lives and say, am I on track 1:22:59.640 --> 1:23:02.160 for where I want to be? I look at it 1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:04.920 differently when they come into my office. I look at 1:23:04.920 --> 1:23:08.040 it and say, well, let's just let's make sure we 1:23:08.120 --> 1:23:11.400 understand what's good about your relationship. Because they may have 1:23:11.479 --> 1:23:16.160 a nice home, great kids, everything about their life is good, 1:23:16.320 --> 1:23:20.559 but they're feeling, to use your phrase, itchy about their spouse. Well, 1:23:21.080 --> 1:23:23.240 is there a behavior or two or three that their 1:23:23.280 --> 1:23:27.400 spouse needs to change? I think that in many cases, 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:30.479 ninety five percent of what people have in their marriages 1:23:30.720 --> 1:23:33.680 is satisfactory to them, and it's the five percent that 1:23:33.760 --> 1:23:37.200 makes them look elsewhere. And that's not why, because chances 1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:39.320 are the next marriage they may only be eighty five 1:23:39.360 --> 1:23:41.720 percent satisfied and find fifteen. 1:23:41.280 --> 1:23:42.320 Percent problem with. 1:23:43.280 --> 1:23:45.519 Yeah, but that's also part of it. Right, grass is greener, 1:23:45.560 --> 1:23:47.439 and you also get like, man, what happened to my life? 1:23:47.479 --> 1:23:49.280 I used to be carefree and young, and I'm settling. 1:23:49.280 --> 1:23:50.040 I'm settling. Right? 1:23:50.320 --> 1:23:51.240 Is that the biggest thing for. 1:23:51.200 --> 1:23:55.760 Men and women when they act unfaithful. Is that it's 1:23:56.680 --> 1:23:58.400 it's like they're trying to get control their life back. 1:24:00.200 --> 1:24:04.120 Let me think about that. In my book, I write 1:24:04.240 --> 1:24:06.400 what I have learned as a as a secret of 1:24:06.439 --> 1:24:11.320 a divorce lawyer, and that is this generalization applies about 1:24:11.360 --> 1:24:13.519 fifty percent of the time. And that is, if a 1:24:13.600 --> 1:24:17.680 female is having an extra matter affair, fifty percent of 1:24:17.720 --> 1:24:21.000 the time it will be with her supervisor, her boss. 1:24:22.080 --> 1:24:26.880 With a man, there is no such correlation. You would 1:24:26.920 --> 1:24:30.000 think that the reciprocal would be true. Okay, If fifty 1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:32.640 percent of women who are having affairs are having with 1:24:32.720 --> 1:24:38.920 their bosses supervisors, then theoretically fifty percent of men should 1:24:38.960 --> 1:24:43.240 be having them with their direct reports. But it doesn't 1:24:43.240 --> 1:24:47.120 work out that way. Men are looking more widely. Women 1:24:47.560 --> 1:24:51.680 come to trust their bosses by working together all day. 1:24:51.720 --> 1:24:54.840 I talk a lot about that because it is not 1:24:54.960 --> 1:24:58.679 a problem in marriages at large. I don't want anybody 1:24:58.720 --> 1:25:00.880 to be afraid of work. I don't want a woman 1:25:00.920 --> 1:25:04.479 to be afraid of working for a man. But when 1:25:04.520 --> 1:25:06.720 there are problems in the marriage, that's when they come 1:25:06.760 --> 1:25:13.599 to see a divorce lawyer. It's often the woman's boss, 1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:17.320 and so that's that's and that's that has all sorts 1:25:17.360 --> 1:25:18.200 of ramification. 1:25:18.320 --> 1:25:21.240 Yeah, psychologically, Yeah, how do I get the psychological elemnus 1:25:21.280 --> 1:25:24.000 because I don't want to. So we've gone from money 1:25:24.040 --> 1:25:25.639 to the infidel in the middle aged thing and then 1:25:25.960 --> 1:25:27.920 the interesting one to me what you said. What you're 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:30.400 saying in the Secrets of a Divorce Lawyer, David Erdman 1:25:30.720 --> 1:25:34.200 is for older people. And what age group we're talking 1:25:34.240 --> 1:25:36.120 here when it comes to addiction is being the number 1:25:36.160 --> 1:25:37.920 one cause of divorce among older couples. 1:25:38.360 --> 1:25:41.880 Here's here's what happens in my book. That's in the book, 1:25:41.920 --> 1:25:44.840 and it's called The Ten Commandments of Marriage. I talk 1:25:44.960 --> 1:25:47.920 about the role of addiction and I look at it 1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:50.760 as a fork in the road. Let me let me 1:25:50.760 --> 1:25:52.880 go back just a little bit of life history. When 1:25:52.880 --> 1:25:56.720 you go up through your twenties, chances are you're a 1:25:56.760 --> 1:26:01.879 heavy consumer of alcohol. But between age thirty and forty, 1:26:02.240 --> 1:26:05.720 that's when you start having children and you better get 1:26:05.720 --> 1:26:08.360 control of alcohol or alcohol is going to control you. 1:26:09.160 --> 1:26:14.200 By the time people are forty, they're a percentage maybe 1:26:14.240 --> 1:26:17.360 ten percent, maybe less than ten percent are hooked on 1:26:17.479 --> 1:26:22.280 alcohol and it can be drugs, and so then matters 1:26:22.479 --> 1:26:27.840 begin to deteriorate in the marriage because because it's not 1:26:27.960 --> 1:26:31.720 usually a health concern until an older issue, but it's 1:26:31.800 --> 1:26:38.000 a financial concern. It's an anger problem in the marriage. 1:26:38.200 --> 1:26:41.599 It's a conflict over the one spouse saying you drink 1:26:41.640 --> 1:26:44.960 too much and the other saying I do not. Well, 1:26:46.479 --> 1:26:50.280 they've got a problem. And the person who's drinking too 1:26:50.360 --> 1:26:54.280 much may be going out and corrousing with other people 1:26:54.280 --> 1:26:56.920 because they're not having fun at home anymore. They're not 1:26:56.960 --> 1:27:00.719 even welcome at home anymore, and then that problem stix 1:27:00.800 --> 1:27:04.040 with them, and it is a It is a as 1:27:04.080 --> 1:27:07.920 a young person, I would never have imagined how pandemic 1:27:08.080 --> 1:27:11.920 it is in old age. 1:27:13.040 --> 1:27:15.040 Wow. And uh, it's part of that too though. 1:27:15.000 --> 1:27:16.639 I Mean, you get older, you get you know, aches 1:27:16.640 --> 1:27:19.080 and pains, and you start maybe on a prescription thing 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:21.760 and maybe you self medicate to with alcohol. You got time, 1:27:21.800 --> 1:27:24.559 you got money, you start doing that kind of stuff. 1:27:24.560 --> 1:27:26.479 You're you're also an empty nester, right, how much does 1:27:26.520 --> 1:27:29.640 that affect a breakup of a marriage? Because you know, 1:27:29.720 --> 1:27:32.720 for years and years, especially today, you know suburbanites, you 1:27:32.760 --> 1:27:34.519 know young parents, it's all about the kids, the kids, 1:27:34.560 --> 1:27:37.000 the kids, and sports and music and this and that. 1:27:37.120 --> 1:27:38.800 In this camp and you're driving all over hells over 1:27:38.920 --> 1:27:40.320 and then they grow up. Okay, we got them in 1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:42.280 a great college, and they they leave and now you 1:27:42.320 --> 1:27:43.639 have you're living with a stranger. 1:27:45.439 --> 1:27:48.400 Uh, Scott. I definitely address that in the book. If 1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:52.639 the couple has not made their marriage the core of 1:27:53.040 --> 1:27:57.800 their existence together and instead have made the children the 1:27:57.840 --> 1:28:01.360 core of it, or perhaps their career the core of it, 1:28:01.680 --> 1:28:05.759 then they really don't have a central focus any longer 1:28:05.800 --> 1:28:08.559 in their marriage, and and things tend to spend apart. 1:28:09.320 --> 1:28:15.160 One of my commandments is to live a marriage centered life. 1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:19.320 That sounds difficult, but the truth matter is if the 1:28:19.320 --> 1:28:22.520 marriage is at the center of your life, where is it. 1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:27.320 It's somewhere else. And that in terms of looking at 1:28:27.320 --> 1:28:33.519 the demography that what happens with marriages. Once people are 1:28:33.560 --> 1:28:37.479 centered somewhere else, then their marriage is definitely a subject 1:28:37.520 --> 1:28:40.120 of being lost in the process. 1:28:40.479 --> 1:28:42.200 David Herdman, all the best to you, thanks again for 1:28:42.200 --> 1:28:42.840 coming on the show. 1:28:43.000 --> 1:28:43.599 Thank you brother. 1:28:44.080 --> 1:28:46.759 A nice uplifting topic for a couple of days past 1:28:46.760 --> 1:28:49.240 out since day. If you really screwed up Valandide's day, 1:28:49.600 --> 1:28:53.360 you may need the book and the advice of sound 1:28:53.680 --> 1:28:57.000 legal counsel because the next month or so, a couple 1:28:57.040 --> 1:28:59.720 of weeks at least, attorneys start to see a huge 1:28:59.760 --> 1:29:00.639 up to the number divorce. 1:29:00.640 --> 1:29:01.240 I mean, think about it. 1:29:01.240 --> 1:29:03.400 You made it through of cold winter monthster together, you 1:29:03.400 --> 1:29:05.400 realize how much you hate each other, and then you 1:29:05.400 --> 1:29:07.960 suffer through the holidays and maybe made it to Valentine's Day. 1:29:08.000 --> 1:29:10.280 Of course it's more of a I guess, probably more 1:29:10.280 --> 1:29:12.599 of a couple thing, not you know, maybe you're engaged 1:29:12.720 --> 1:29:15.559 or have been dating a while, or dating the breakups 1:29:15.560 --> 1:29:17.479 happened to post Valentine's Day. But we do see a 1:29:17.479 --> 1:29:20.280 spike in the number of divorces as well this divorce 1:29:20.439 --> 1:29:23.880 season ahead of baseball season, which, by the way, we 1:29:24.040 --> 1:29:27.600 begin today in ernest because our buddy Dave D. R. 1:29:27.680 --> 1:29:27.960 Brewster. 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:31.360 This first update from spring training heard here on seven 1:29:31.439 --> 1:29:32.520 hundred WLW. 1:29:33.160 --> 1:29:34.719 Hey, it's Sloane. Remember your kid. 1:29:35.240 --> 1:29:37.439 You go to class and classes starting to fall here, 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:41.040 and you make some new friends and probably keep maybe 1:29:41.120 --> 1:29:42.960 one a couple of those things through the next year, 1:29:42.960 --> 1:29:45.160 and you make different frame your friend circle expands and 1:29:45.479 --> 1:29:47.680 you move away. Maybe you go to school, right, you 1:29:47.720 --> 1:29:50.719 make more friends there and now with Facebook and everything 1:29:50.720 --> 1:29:52.720 now on Facebook is even old school right, you've talked 1:29:52.760 --> 1:29:55.080 about Twitter and Instagram and TikTok and all that you 1:29:55.120 --> 1:29:57.519 can keep tabs on your friends you haven't seen in 1:29:57.560 --> 1:30:00.240 a long time. Why is it so much harder to 1:30:00.240 --> 1:30:02.200 make friends though, when you're an adult? I mean, think 1:30:02.200 --> 1:30:05.200 about it. For a lot of folks they keep, especially Cincinnati, right, 1:30:05.240 --> 1:30:07.000 as parochial as we are, tend to keep a lot 1:30:07.000 --> 1:30:08.920 of the same friends you had your whole life. But 1:30:09.040 --> 1:30:11.800 making new friends is difficult. Why is it so hard 1:30:11.840 --> 1:30:15.720 for adults? Interesting question? Merca Franco is here, she is 1:30:15.760 --> 1:30:18.599 an expert on these step of relationships, and I think 1:30:18.600 --> 1:30:20.200 that's the most valid question of our time. 1:30:20.200 --> 1:30:21.599 It's easy when your kid. Why is it so hard 1:30:21.640 --> 1:30:22.639 winning an adult? Marissa? 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:26.439 So when we're kids, we have what Rebecca g Adams 1:30:26.479 --> 1:30:31.439 of Sociologists calls the ingredients that allow friendships happen organically, 1:30:31.560 --> 1:30:35.519 which are continuous, unplanned interaction and shared vulnerability. So we 1:30:35.560 --> 1:30:38.040 see people every day and we let our guard down, 1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:41.760 lunch reset in. But as adults, we don't have the 1:30:41.800 --> 1:30:46.160 same infrastructure, so we can't assume that friendships happened organically 1:30:46.200 --> 1:30:46.840 in the same way. 1:30:48.000 --> 1:30:50.080 Yeah, but you see people at work, people come and go, 1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:52.519 stuff like that people you work next to in you know, 1:30:52.600 --> 1:30:54.920 cubicle or the drill press next to you, or on 1:30:55.000 --> 1:30:58.200 the job, whatever it is. It seems like there's it 1:30:58.240 --> 1:31:00.559 just seems like there's more opportunities when you're alt because 1:31:00.680 --> 1:31:02.120 you know, you have the one thing you don't when 1:31:02.120 --> 1:31:04.000 you're kid, and that's ability to travel yourself. 1:31:04.080 --> 1:31:04.200 Right. 1:31:04.240 --> 1:31:05.679 You can get in a car, go for a walk 1:31:05.720 --> 1:31:08.160 wherever you want to go. You make more contacts a 1:31:08.200 --> 1:31:09.519 day than the typical kid does. 1:31:11.680 --> 1:31:15.240 Yeah, that's a great point. A study actually found though, 1:31:15.280 --> 1:31:17.160 that the more time we spent together at work, the 1:31:17.240 --> 1:31:19.920 less closely feel. And I think that's because for a 1:31:19.920 --> 1:31:23.880 lot of us in the workplace, that sense of vulnerability, 1:31:23.920 --> 1:31:26.439 the unguarded net that was part of the ingredients for 1:31:26.600 --> 1:31:30.000 connection isn't necessarily there. We share just a certain side 1:31:30.000 --> 1:31:33.160 of us. We don't share the full dimensions of who 1:31:33.160 --> 1:31:35.240 we are, and so we might feel like I know 1:31:35.360 --> 1:31:38.040 you as an employee, but I don't necessarily know you 1:31:38.080 --> 1:31:38.719 as a person. 1:31:39.560 --> 1:31:43.160 We have an interesting phenomenon here in Cincinnati, Ohio, doctor, 1:31:43.439 --> 1:31:45.040 in that we have the East side on the West 1:31:45.040 --> 1:31:47.880 side here, and there's a noticeable difference between the two 1:31:48.800 --> 1:31:51.120 west Siders tend to be people who grew up in 1:31:51.160 --> 1:31:53.040 the same and I'm stereotyping here, but grew up in 1:31:53.040 --> 1:31:55.559 the same neighborhood, when's the same high school, you know, 1:31:55.600 --> 1:31:57.840 lifelong friends kind of like America used to be a 1:31:57.840 --> 1:32:00.960 couple generations ago, generation or two ago, and it's kind 1:32:00.960 --> 1:32:02.760 of that way, and it's quite and it's nice. But 1:32:02.800 --> 1:32:05.560 I think from those I've known and met perfectly, you know, 1:32:05.680 --> 1:32:08.680 wonderful folks and stuff, but there's a sense that you know, 1:32:08.720 --> 1:32:11.280 if you didn't grow up in that particular neighborhood or 1:32:11.320 --> 1:32:13.240 you're not part of that group, it's awfully tough to 1:32:13.280 --> 1:32:16.360 break through. And yeah, some cities and areas are easier, 1:32:16.400 --> 1:32:17.880 like at the East side of Cincinnata to do that. 1:32:17.880 --> 1:32:20.280 It's an interesting phenomenon here, but I would suspect that's 1:32:20.280 --> 1:32:21.760 probably true in a lot of areas. 1:32:22.760 --> 1:32:25.479 Yeah, that is a really interesting phenomenon. And I like 1:32:25.520 --> 1:32:27.960 how you put it, like similar to generations path because 1:32:27.960 --> 1:32:30.600 it's true people used to live in the same neighborhoods 1:32:30.640 --> 1:32:33.799 and areas their whole life, and that really facilitated connection. 1:32:33.920 --> 1:32:36.479 Because one study found that the more you move, the 1:32:36.479 --> 1:32:40.960 more dispose mold. Basically, your relationships become so people that 1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:44.360 have the same area that haven't continuous interactions really have 1:32:44.479 --> 1:32:47.400 that opportunity to relationships. And I don't think, you know, 1:32:47.520 --> 1:32:52.360 Cincinnati is the only place in the US that has that. 1:32:53.240 --> 1:32:55.599 I think there can be a sort of wide range 1:32:55.720 --> 1:32:58.479 of experiences when it comes to making friends, depending on 1:32:58.520 --> 1:32:59.040 your reasons. 1:32:59.080 --> 1:33:00.479 Certainly, you know you have. 1:33:00.439 --> 1:33:02.479 Your same social circle. Maybe people come and go, but 1:33:02.520 --> 1:33:04.240 generally not making as many friends as you did when 1:33:04.240 --> 1:33:07.799 you were younger and lifelong friends at that People retire 1:33:07.880 --> 1:33:09.240 and move and then all of a sudden they're back 1:33:09.240 --> 1:33:12.599 to being kids again, making all brand new friends. 1:33:13.000 --> 1:33:15.840 Yeah. Yeah, And that is actually one of the things 1:33:15.840 --> 1:33:18.599 that predicts how satisfied we are in our retirement, whether 1:33:18.680 --> 1:33:21.679 we replace the social network we might have gotten from 1:33:21.720 --> 1:33:26.320 working every day. I mean, I think when we're in retirement, right, 1:33:26.439 --> 1:33:28.840 people in general and times of transition tend to be 1:33:28.920 --> 1:33:31.600 more open to friendship. So that's retiring, moving to a 1:33:31.640 --> 1:33:34.160 new city, you know, going through a breakup or divor 1:33:34.520 --> 1:33:38.519 traveling for example. And it gives us a lot more time. 1:33:38.760 --> 1:33:41.519 And obviously time is a big factor that we need 1:33:41.600 --> 1:33:44.360 to be able to make friends. Just being able to 1:33:44.439 --> 1:33:48.479 have the ability to interact more frequently will really up 1:33:48.520 --> 1:33:49.799 our chances of forming connection. 1:33:50.240 --> 1:33:51.120 How do you do this then? 1:33:51.160 --> 1:33:52.800 I mean, you know, if you're going, Okay, this sounds good, 1:33:52.800 --> 1:33:54.559 I'm I'm going to go and I'm going to try 1:33:54.560 --> 1:33:57.080 and to expand my friend base right now, how do 1:33:57.080 --> 1:33:57.800 you go out and find that? 1:33:58.200 --> 1:34:01.280 Yeah, So, as I talked about it platonics, you have 1:34:01.360 --> 1:34:05.840 to initiate. Friendships doesn't really happen organically. As adults, people 1:34:05.920 --> 1:34:09.120 that think friendship happens based on luck are lonelier over time, 1:34:09.160 --> 1:34:11.920 whereas those that think it happens based on effort are 1:34:12.000 --> 1:34:15.280 less lonely. Now, people are very afraid of rejections. The 1:34:15.320 --> 1:34:17.960 truth is, according to the research, people are less likely 1:34:18.000 --> 1:34:21.400 to reject you than you think. When strangers interact and 1:34:21.479 --> 1:34:24.439 predict how how much they think the other person likes them, 1:34:24.520 --> 1:34:27.040 we tend to underestimate how much people like us. It's 1:34:27.040 --> 1:34:29.679 called the liking gap. And one of my biggest tips 1:34:29.680 --> 1:34:32.639 for making friends that I talk about in Platonics is 1:34:32.680 --> 1:34:35.720 the importance of assuming people like you so you can initiate. 1:34:35.840 --> 1:34:39.639 Because when researchers basically manipulated people to think that way, 1:34:39.720 --> 1:34:42.720 even though it was a lie, people became more more 1:34:42.840 --> 1:34:46.320 friendly or more open and they actually, you know, put 1:34:46.320 --> 1:34:48.479 themselves in a place to be more likely to make friends. 1:34:48.520 --> 1:34:51.680 So it becomes a sort of self fulfilling prophecy. And 1:34:51.720 --> 1:34:53.360 after you do all that, you just say to someone 1:34:53.400 --> 1:34:55.400 and you'd like to hang out with more, like, Hey, 1:34:55.400 --> 1:34:57.879 it's been great to connect because you take topic information 1:34:58.200 --> 1:34:59.800 like I'd love to find more time to hang out. 1:35:00.360 --> 1:35:02.040 We'll have to talk again later and go through the 1:35:02.040 --> 1:35:04.120 whole friend zone thing too, because we're just talking about 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:07.519 you generally a friend relationships, platonic relationships. Name of the 1:35:07.520 --> 1:35:10.040 book is platonic, but it's a whole thing when you start, 1:35:10.400 --> 1:35:12.800 you know, mixing romantic interests in here in your you know, 1:35:12.800 --> 1:35:15.240 there's friend zone and everything else. Maybe there's a I 1:35:15.280 --> 1:35:16.960 don't know, maybe there's a follow up to this, Doctor 1:35:17.000 --> 1:35:18.599 Mersa Franco, thanks again for the time. 1:35:18.560 --> 1:35:20.240 Appreciate it, no problem, my pleasure. 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:22.040 Thanks again. And I just I just thought of this 1:35:22.080 --> 1:35:24.760 as I hung up. And I think it's because too, 1:35:24.800 --> 1:35:27.160 when you're younger, you don't have the demands on your 1:35:27.160 --> 1:35:28.680 time as much as you do when your adult. Right, 1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:30.640 you've got everything pulling at you all the time. It 1:35:30.640 --> 1:35:32.240 feels like the older you get, the last time you have, 1:35:32.360 --> 1:35:35.160 and there's so many demands for your time. You like 1:35:35.240 --> 1:35:37.080 to and sit down and talk to someone and get 1:35:37.080 --> 1:35:38.599 to know them, but do you really have that time 1:35:38.680 --> 1:35:40.960 or inclination to do it. And also, I think your 1:35:40.960 --> 1:35:42.760 BS meter is kind of worn a little bit thin 1:35:42.800 --> 1:35:45.120 over the years too, and maybe that's a little tiring 1:35:45.160 --> 1:35:48.000 for some folks. I guess I'm always open to meeting different, 1:35:48.000 --> 1:35:50.160 you know, new people and different things and experiences. I'm 1:35:50.160 --> 1:35:52.120 cool with that still, I get that a lot of 1:35:52.160 --> 1:35:54.800 people aren't. But relative to why it's easier when you're 1:35:54.840 --> 1:35:56.680 younger and older, I think that's it right there, is 1:35:56.720 --> 1:35:59.240 that there's so many constraints for our time. And that's why 1:35:59.280 --> 1:36:01.599 when you retire, and let's say, you know, if you're 1:36:01.600 --> 1:36:03.800 a Cincinnati and right, you're going to retire and you're 1:36:03.840 --> 1:36:05.639 only allowed to move go to different play you're only 1:36:05.640 --> 1:36:08.000 allowed to go like Gallaton, Kentucky. You're allowed to go 1:36:08.040 --> 1:36:12.200 to I'm sorry, Pigeon Forge, the Outer Banks or Destined Florida, 1:36:12.560 --> 1:36:15.360 and that's pretty much it right there, or the Gulf 1:36:15.400 --> 1:36:18.439 side of Florida, maybe the Fort Myers. And once you 1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:21.439 do that, though, you now, okay, I don't have demands 1:36:21.439 --> 1:36:23.120 of my time anymore. You may start making friends again. 1:36:23.160 --> 1:36:25.000 Like your kid. I think it's work, I think it's life, 1:36:25.040 --> 1:36:27.400 I think it's family. It's all those things that weighs 1:36:27.439 --> 1:36:29.200 down there. That's why it's hard to make friends when 1:36:29.200 --> 1:36:32.360 you're an adult, because you just you want to, but 1:36:32.400 --> 1:36:33.000 you don't have the time. 1:36:33.000 --> 1:36:33.840 You got a lot going on. 1:36:36.040 --> 1:36:38.880 This is seven hundred WW and news in about twelve 1:36:38.880 --> 1:36:40.920 minutes here on the show and the big stories today. 1:36:40.960 --> 1:36:42.880 Looks like crime over the first couple months of the 1:36:43.000 --> 1:36:45.759 new year here in Cincinnati has gone up forty percent, 1:36:45.760 --> 1:36:49.479 which is insane considering how cold it's been since literally 1:36:49.520 --> 1:36:50.040 the first. 1:36:49.840 --> 1:36:50.240 Of the year. 1:36:50.320 --> 1:36:52.120 You've got to work really really hard to get those 1:36:52.120 --> 1:36:54.519 crime numbers where they are with the weather the way 1:36:54.560 --> 1:36:56.320 it's been. We'll try to make sense of that, probably 1:36:56.400 --> 1:36:59.720 something on tomorrow's show on that. We also have the 1:36:59.720 --> 1:37:02.880 guy in uh whereas a Georgia who gave his son 1:37:02.920 --> 1:37:05.280 a gun went on a shooting spree and mass murder 1:37:05.320 --> 1:37:08.880 and his high school and is responsible. Now he has 1:37:08.920 --> 1:37:10.360 his day in court today, which I think is a 1:37:10.400 --> 1:37:14.640 fascinating Second Amendment story in that you've got it responsible, 1:37:14.640 --> 1:37:16.680 you give the you give a weapon to someone who 1:37:16.800 --> 1:37:19.960 is under the underage. You own that bullet as much 1:37:19.960 --> 1:37:22.120 as that individual does, as my mother, son or daughter does. 1:37:22.200 --> 1:37:25.760 So we just whether it's unlocked guns or guns in 1:37:25.760 --> 1:37:29.040 the hands of the wrong people, especially kids. As a 1:37:29.040 --> 1:37:32.160 pro Secondmendment guy myself, I totally see what it is 1:37:32.200 --> 1:37:33.800 they're doing and trying to do here, and you should. 1:37:34.080 --> 1:37:37.800 You've got to be responsible, much more responsible. Also, a 1:37:37.960 --> 1:37:41.040 Chicago area teacher forced to resign over his Facebook post 1:37:41.520 --> 1:37:43.519 two words that cost him his job. 1:37:44.000 --> 1:37:45.920 Go ice is what he said. 1:37:45.960 --> 1:37:50.439 He has worked for a decade and a half building 1:37:50.439 --> 1:37:54.040 his career in in an area in Gary where there 1:37:54.160 --> 1:37:58.080 is a predominant Hispanic population. Therefore, the he has a 1:37:58.200 --> 1:38:00.599 disproportion number kids in his classes that a Hispanic. 1:38:00.640 --> 1:38:01.840 And so he said, go ice. 1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:05.920 And of course, you know, someone caught that and then 1:38:05.960 --> 1:38:08.519 shared it, and then they shared it and it went viral, 1:38:09.640 --> 1:38:12.759 and yeah, it's an area where the local police. 1:38:12.560 --> 1:38:13.840 Said they would cooperate with ice. 1:38:13.920 --> 1:38:16.800 So he recently put up a Facebook post that I've 1:38:16.800 --> 1:38:19.040 spent fourteen years building my career, pouring my heart into 1:38:19.040 --> 1:38:22.200 teaching kids, building relationships and building a positive role as 1:38:22.200 --> 1:38:24.040 opposive role model. To see it up ended over two 1:38:24.080 --> 1:38:26.400 simple words, go Ice, where I expressed my personal support 1:38:26.680 --> 1:38:29.679 for law enforcement felt like a severe blow to my career. 1:38:29.720 --> 1:38:32.120 And now, of course, if you're anti ICE, you think 1:38:32.160 --> 1:38:35.240 this is just desserts. If you support ICE and all 1:38:35.280 --> 1:38:39.519 that they do unequivocally, then you are defending this guy. 1:38:40.479 --> 1:38:42.599 So he will be and now has become a darling 1:38:42.640 --> 1:38:45.960 of the right, So he's been claimed into that circle. 1:38:46.160 --> 1:38:49.200 Might have been all law, but who knows. And I 1:38:49.240 --> 1:38:49.920 think it's interesting. 1:38:49.920 --> 1:38:52.519 You know, we talk about cancel culture and it's more 1:38:52.720 --> 1:38:54.960 kind of past cancel culture, and it still comes up. 1:38:55.000 --> 1:38:58.920 We had what happened with, you know, the campus canceled 1:38:58.960 --> 1:39:02.200 culture over the last several years that seems to be fading. 1:39:02.600 --> 1:39:05.200 We had what happened with that Joe Rogan and Spotify 1:39:05.960 --> 1:39:09.800 where boycotted over his perceived anti vaccine stance, and the 1:39:09.840 --> 1:39:12.320 guy from The Bachelor a few years ago cost him. 1:39:12.520 --> 1:39:14.479 Of course, on the you know, on the left, you've 1:39:14.479 --> 1:39:17.720 had conservative led cancelations and that included Dylan mulvaney in 1:39:17.720 --> 1:39:20.560 the bud Light thing, what happened with Target and the 1:39:20.600 --> 1:39:25.400 Pride Collection, and Liz Cheney for that matter too, where 1:39:25.400 --> 1:39:28.240 she was removed from the House GOP leadership and censured 1:39:28.280 --> 1:39:32.040 by the Republicans for voting to impeach Trump and criticizing 1:39:32.080 --> 1:39:36.320 his false election claims and lost her primary by landslide 1:39:36.400 --> 1:39:40.439 or Trump backed challenger. And so you know, this past year, 1:39:41.040 --> 1:39:44.960 as we still fairly new year, anyway, it feels like 1:39:45.000 --> 1:39:47.840 this is emerging. It's starting to the warmest starting tournoways changes. 1:39:47.880 --> 1:39:50.400 This is the year of uncancelation. And I think what's 1:39:50.439 --> 1:39:53.080 going on is if you look at Trump, right, the 1:39:53.120 --> 1:39:55.920 latest controversy, although he may have done something today, seems 1:39:55.920 --> 1:39:59.880 like every day he does something. The Obama video that 1:40:00.080 --> 1:40:02.880 came out with Michelle and Barack Obama and Barack Obamas 1:40:02.880 --> 1:40:05.200 come out on a podcast and kind of gone after 1:40:05.240 --> 1:40:09.120 the president on this. You'll blame the guy in him saying, hey, 1:40:09.160 --> 1:40:11.680 it was first it was a White House intern, or now, 1:40:11.680 --> 1:40:13.920 well I didn't watch the whole video. Okay, well you're 1:40:14.080 --> 1:40:16.200 having a you know, the face of Michelle Obama and 1:40:16.240 --> 1:40:20.200 President Obama super imposed on primates is certainly going to 1:40:20.280 --> 1:40:24.320 cause a lot of people to question whether or not 1:40:24.360 --> 1:40:26.840 you're a racist. If you think he's a racist, this 1:40:27.040 --> 1:40:29.040 just gives you more ammunition, right, and mean, it's a 1:40:29.040 --> 1:40:31.240 horrible thing. You can't to go I wasn't my fight 1:40:31.320 --> 1:40:33.160 and watch the whole thing. It's not hard to say 1:40:33.200 --> 1:40:36.080 I'm sorry. But today, and this is the uncancellation part 1:40:36.080 --> 1:40:38.680 of it, you don't have to do that anymore because 1:40:38.920 --> 1:40:42.840 now today you have this loyal base and the bass 1:40:42.840 --> 1:40:46.719 has become more significant than broad appeal. So Trump's political success, 1:40:46.720 --> 1:40:49.759 if you look at it, demonstrates at a strong base 1:40:50.520 --> 1:40:55.759 can help you survive cancelation attempts. That makes sense because 1:40:55.800 --> 1:41:00.920 his core core base they don't care, you know, they're 1:41:01.080 --> 1:41:05.519 and I think also we are fatigued with the constant 1:41:05.600 --> 1:41:08.160 outrage cycle. And that's part of why this past year 1:41:08.200 --> 1:41:13.360 politically has felt like ten because the constant outrage. It's 1:41:13.400 --> 1:41:17.599 like we have outrage PTSD. You do, I do, everyone does. 1:41:18.640 --> 1:41:22.799 And that's what that feels like. And even the corporate 1:41:22.840 --> 1:41:26.320 anti wold cancelations aren't really sticky. You know, Anheuser Busch 1:41:26.400 --> 1:41:29.559 and Target saw minimal long term damage with our campaigns. 1:41:29.560 --> 1:41:33.120 They go, Okay, we can survive this. So it's really 1:41:33.200 --> 1:41:36.760 shifted towards I'm glad to see this more to an 1:41:36.760 --> 1:41:41.800 accountability culture. The cancel culture is transferring from this either 1:41:41.800 --> 1:41:44.840 your platform or deplatformed this whole binary model into more 1:41:44.960 --> 1:41:47.360 kind of a nuanced system. Okay, did you say or 1:41:47.400 --> 1:41:50.599 do something stupid? We had just what was an HGTV host. 1:41:50.880 --> 1:41:52.880 I don't watch those shows because they dre'd be crazy. 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:58.040 And she I think she's forty nine and she just 1:41:58.080 --> 1:42:01.160 got canceled. Technically, well, I don't cancel, but she dropped 1:42:01.200 --> 1:42:02.840 the end bomb like in an outtake, and they told her. 1:42:03.080 --> 1:42:05.040 She's like, oh my god, I can't believe I said that. 1:42:05.240 --> 1:42:06.960 Those words don't come out of my mouth. Well they do. 1:42:07.040 --> 1:42:09.320 They did, and it was caught on tape and she 1:42:09.439 --> 1:42:13.040 wanted the I guess in this case the photographers to 1:42:13.439 --> 1:42:17.040 delete that, and someone said this is interesting and made 1:42:17.040 --> 1:42:19.760 a complainte HGTV cut not only they're just ready to 1:42:19.840 --> 1:42:22.960 leach I guess her new season. They canceled that, They 1:42:23.000 --> 1:42:25.080 pulled all her episodes off, they took everything off social 1:42:25.240 --> 1:42:30.840 She has disappeared because at the end, Bob now today 1:42:30.880 --> 1:42:33.799 you know, and this may be the Tom Brenneman effect, 1:42:34.800 --> 1:42:36.680 you know, I mean to look what Tom said and 1:42:36.720 --> 1:42:39.240 did and paid a heavy price for that for four 1:42:39.280 --> 1:42:41.880 or five years, but he was able to reabilitate himself 1:42:41.880 --> 1:42:43.600 and say, listen, Okay, I get the air of my 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:45.720 ways and now was embraced by the same community he 1:42:45.760 --> 1:42:48.200 offended years ago. I mean, that's that's the way society 1:42:48.200 --> 1:42:52.439 should be. You're held accountable, you pay a price. Some 1:42:52.520 --> 1:42:55.120 say too long. I would agree with that, but there's 1:42:55.160 --> 1:42:56.840 got a price to pay, and you did that, and 1:42:56.880 --> 1:43:00.400 you're rehabilitating to move forward. And I think maybe today 1:43:00.439 --> 1:43:02.439 we're finally seeing the light with us where we want 1:43:02.479 --> 1:43:06.680 to see public public figures learn and demonstrate growth and 1:43:06.720 --> 1:43:10.920 not just be permanently killed in banned. To this point, 1:43:11.520 --> 1:43:13.559 I saw YouTube and acts are adding what they call 1:43:13.640 --> 1:43:18.880 rehabilitation notes to controversial content so you can address past 1:43:18.920 --> 1:43:21.800 controversies to present so you can head it off with 1:43:21.840 --> 1:43:24.320 the past or accountability audits or whatever they call it. 1:43:24.320 --> 1:43:27.360 And there's a clear line between what's cancelable or criminal behavior. 1:43:27.400 --> 1:43:31.240 Certainly that's that's a different But yeah, we're in this 1:43:31.479 --> 1:43:33.960 state right now. We're being offended is our default setting. 1:43:34.600 --> 1:43:36.200 And maybe we're going in and changing that button bar, 1:43:36.240 --> 1:43:38.120 maybe we're changing that little radio button a little bit, 1:43:40.320 --> 1:43:43.040 and you know, people, because that just adds more censorship 1:43:43.040 --> 1:43:44.920 to the mix too as well. And this day and 1:43:44.960 --> 1:43:49.519 age of bountiful communication. It's kind of scary that, you know, 1:43:49.600 --> 1:43:52.519 we're our default setting is just, hey, let's not rock 1:43:52.560 --> 1:43:54.800 the boat. Let's not be offended here, because yeah, I 1:43:54.800 --> 1:43:56.920 thought with social media, the one thing there is if 1:43:56.920 --> 1:44:00.599 you just let the truth come out, Uh, that seems 1:44:00.600 --> 1:44:03.679 to always win. Now again you're saying, well, slonely, there's AI, 1:44:03.760 --> 1:44:05.759 there's a bunch of other things and manipulating what truth 1:44:05.800 --> 1:44:08.760 looks like, and truth now is debatable, it's in the 1:44:08.760 --> 1:44:11.880 ie beholder. It's kind of always has been, though this 1:44:12.000 --> 1:44:14.400 is just a digital extension of it. I think I 1:44:14.439 --> 1:44:18.240 think we're just we're tired. We're just exhausted of being 1:44:18.280 --> 1:44:22.559 offended all the time. And as kind of as predicted 1:44:22.560 --> 1:44:24.800 back in the day when the whole you know, left 1:44:24.840 --> 1:44:27.040 wing cancel culture which started this whole thing, I said, 1:44:27.080 --> 1:44:28.240 you know this, at some point there's gonna be a 1:44:28.280 --> 1:44:30.519 right wing cancel culture, and sure enough it happened. Because 1:44:31.360 --> 1:44:34.400 we have this political polarization in the United States that 1:44:34.760 --> 1:44:35.760 it feels like it's peak. 1:44:35.840 --> 1:44:38.040 I don't know if it is or not. We'll find out. 1:44:38.720 --> 1:44:41.240 And and you're seeing I think as a result of this, 1:44:42.040 --> 1:44:46.000 the percentage of Americans identifying is moderate is now hit 1:44:46.080 --> 1:44:48.280 a record low about a third of the country. Doesn't 1:44:48.280 --> 1:44:51.240 mean independent voters, that's a whole different thing, but people 1:44:51.240 --> 1:44:56.040 who consider themselves moderates, and the cultural right now demands 1:44:56.040 --> 1:44:59.240 public attention for cancelation. Previously it was the left with 1:44:59.280 --> 1:45:01.599 me too and Black Lives Matter and all these things, 1:45:01.600 --> 1:45:04.679 and it's kind of dangerous. And maybe that's also why 1:45:04.720 --> 1:45:09.639 you see the number of students, younger people in America 1:45:09.680 --> 1:45:12.880 gen zers saying it was acceptable to use violence to 1:45:12.880 --> 1:45:15.760 stop someone you disagree from speaking. It was something like 1:45:16.160 --> 1:45:19.800 one in three now last year. That's an alarming number 1:45:19.800 --> 1:45:23.200 thinking that you should use violence aka Charlie Kirk to 1:45:23.240 --> 1:45:28.200 stop someone you disagree with. Absolutely frightening, but I think 1:45:28.240 --> 1:45:31.759 maybe you know, it just becomes permanent but less dramatic, 1:45:32.600 --> 1:45:35.200 and I think the rehabilitation culture eventually wins, at least 1:45:35.200 --> 1:45:35.800 that that's my hope. 1:45:35.800 --> 1:45:37.000 Anyway, we jump in with 1:45:37.320 --> 1:45:40.200 News and more to follow with Willie at twelve six 1:45:40.320 --> 1:45:42.400 today here on the hull of the Red seven hundred 1:45:42.560 --> 1:45:43.679 WW Cincinnati,