Speaker 1: Don't want to be an American back half the week,
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Speaker 1: big sports weekend head More on that a little bit
Speaker 1: later and news involving Joe Burrow will have that covered
Speaker 1: for you this morning.
Speaker 2: Could be maybe possibly will we see him in action
Speaker 2: against the Patriots of New England on Sunday. So you're
Speaker 2: saying there's a chance before that. The city wants to
Speaker 2: move forward on a plan to finish the banks, but
Speaker 2: the county says we're broke, it's not a priority, and
Speaker 2: we've got more disagreement between the county and the city.
Speaker 2: The plan calls for up to eight hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: in redevelopment over the next fifteen years to complete the
Speaker 2: five remaining lots at the now twenty year old banks.
Speaker 2: And we have a new twist Council unanimously approving four
Speaker 2: million to buy the former free store food bank location
Speaker 2: on Central Parkway that's next to TQL that's causing speculation
Speaker 2: as a possible site for a new arena. All this
Speaker 2: and more. He is the development guy on City Council.
Speaker 2: That would be council Member Seth Walsh on the Scotsland
Speaker 2: show seth.
Speaker 3: Gomore, Scott.
Speaker 4: See how Man, Yeah, doing well.
Speaker 2: Lots to unpack here, and this is so in your
Speaker 2: wheelhouse obviously, let's start with this new information about buying
Speaker 2: the four million dollar a lot. I'm looking at the
Speaker 2: aerial on Google Earth of this thing. I'm looking at it,
Speaker 2: going okay, well, uh, it's next to public television, public radio.
Speaker 2: Across the street is Queen City Radio, so it's in
Speaker 2: the shadows of TQL Stadium. But I'm trying to see
Speaker 2: how you fit an arena in there? Can you do
Speaker 2: it if CET goes away? Although I know they just
Speaker 2: spent a ton of money on their their remodel. The
Speaker 2: other side of this is a Duke Energy substation that's
Speaker 2: not movable. You've got houses behind it. The neighbors don't
Speaker 2: want this going across Central Avenue and keep it on
Speaker 2: Central Parkway. Is this the site for a future arena?
Speaker 4: I mean it could be very well, could be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of the sites, and you know, Scott
Speaker 5: to take a look at it. You know, it's identified
Speaker 5: in the arena study that was done last year in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four as one of the four central sites
Speaker 5: for where we could be putting an arena including the
Speaker 5: existing location. And that's why this acquisition is so important.
Speaker 5: Even if it ultimately doesn't become an arena. Let's get
Speaker 5: control of the land so we can have that conversation
Speaker 5: and we can drive this conversation and make sure that
Speaker 5: we are evaluating all the options and we don't ultimately
Speaker 5: get strung out with somebody having control of a valuable
Speaker 5: parcel that we want if we want to put an
Speaker 5: area there.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it absolutely could be an.
Speaker 3: Arena possibility there.
Speaker 2: So moving some stuff right, of course, you know, we
Speaker 2: know what's going on with the public public media. CET
Speaker 2: owns the building in the air rights, the city owns
Speaker 2: the land itself. Cost about fifty million dollars to move
Speaker 2: this thing, and you know you've got to come up
Speaker 2: with fifty million.
Speaker 3: Dollars to do that.
Speaker 2: If that's a possibility, then certainly you could put that
Speaker 2: right next to TQL Sadam and almost like what you know,
Speaker 2: putting the arena next to pay Corp, which I think
Speaker 2: would be great, But we're not going to do that obviously,
Speaker 2: because now you can share facilities, you can share infrastructure.
Speaker 3: That that's good, But.
Speaker 2: Doesn't that then take away what we're talking about here
Speaker 2: from the Banks, because I'm sure that the entities at
Speaker 2: the Banks, and now you're negotiating with the county on this,
Speaker 2: want to keep the arena in its present location. A
Speaker 2: new arena if they're to build it, why spend all
Speaker 2: the money in the Banks. If you're going to build
Speaker 2: an arena in the West.
Speaker 5: End, well, the Banks, regardless of whether there's an arena
Speaker 5: there or not. They already have two stadiums, so it's
Speaker 5: not like we would be taking all the supporting opportunities
Speaker 5: away from there if it did move, which again is
Speaker 5: not even close to being decided. And I think there's
Speaker 5: a very real conversation you have about the arena staying
Speaker 5: at the Banks, and there's some interesting renderings put out
Speaker 5: about that recently. But if it moved off the Banks,
Speaker 5: I think that's part of the larger conversation we need
Speaker 5: to have about the Banks. This is the front door
Speaker 5: to our city and it's the last great frontier of
Speaker 5: how we can really rebuild the downtown right on the river,
Speaker 5: how people are coming into the city of Cincinnati, and
Speaker 5: the opportunities there. I think we need to be envisioning
Speaker 5: in a way that is more than just expecting sports
Speaker 5: teams spill to keep it alive and active.
Speaker 4: Frankly, which is what gets me excited about the plan.
Speaker 2: Is this also maybe leverage because the county stand we're broke,
Speaker 2: it's not a priority. The ferris wheel will screw up
Speaker 2: the Freedom Center on all these other things. And you
Speaker 2: guys so far to the man and women on city Council.
Speaker 2: You want to move forward like yesterday on this bank thing,
Speaker 2: and the County's not going to go anywhere you need
Speaker 2: both entities to go. Is this possible? This four million
Speaker 2: dollar land by at the Free Store in Central aven
Speaker 2: has had a way for you to go. Hey, listen,
Speaker 2: we've got some leverage here.
Speaker 4: I don't see this as a leverage play.
Speaker 5: I see this as having a vision for what we
Speaker 5: want Cincinnati to become, and I think for the future
Speaker 5: of Cincinnati for the next ten to fifteen years. To
Speaker 5: really put us on the national stage, we need to
Speaker 5: have an arena and we need to have a thriving banks.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's an either or, and I think
Speaker 5: either location, any of the locations for the arena helped
Speaker 5: solve that problem. But we can't just build an arena
Speaker 5: and not be solving the banks situation. Yeah, and likewise
Speaker 5: we can't solve the bank situation and not hav an
Speaker 5: arena for the city.
Speaker 4: So my opinion on this.
Speaker 5: Is this is called vision and this is called leadership,
Speaker 5: and it's not trying to leverage or play anybody off
Speaker 5: each other. It's trying to move our city and our
Speaker 5: region forward. And I'm really excited about that because that's
Speaker 5: what we need. We need that type energy right now.
Speaker 2: Seth, You can't control what you take your contemporaries over
Speaker 2: at the county are doing by they stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 3: You don't control them. But can you do an arena?
Speaker 2: Can the City of Cincinnati do an arena without county involvement?
Speaker 4: You know a lot of people say no.
Speaker 5: My answer would be, you know, Scott, you and I
Speaker 5: have talked of development a lot. Every development project you
Speaker 5: begin on is hard and it's complicated, and it takes
Speaker 5: a lot of creativity to figure out how you get there.
Speaker 5: It's a lot easier for the counties at the table.
Speaker 5: But if it's not at the table, then that means
Speaker 5: we have to get more creative on how we solve
Speaker 5: the problem. And I think it's something we have to
Speaker 5: commit to as a city in the region and then
Speaker 5: figure out the answers to it regardless. Look at what
Speaker 5: we did with the convention center, three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5: That wasn't found overnight, and it wasn't found from one source.
Speaker 5: And that's what I think is going to take to
Speaker 5: the arena. I would like the county to come to
Speaker 5: the table. I would like the county to be part
Speaker 5: of this conversation. I would like them to be driving
Speaker 5: the conversation. But I also think that the city should
Speaker 5: be prepared to figure out ways to fund it even
Speaker 5: if the county doesn't come there.
Speaker 2: What does that look like relative to financing? Is there
Speaker 2: significant private money involved? As there was a TQL that
Speaker 2: you can be confident in saying we got enough private
Speaker 2: money to pull that on.
Speaker 5: Well, you're asking a question much further down the line
Speaker 5: than is the reality right now. Again, we're at the
Speaker 5: very beginning stages of the arena conversation.
Speaker 4: But in the Arena study it does specifically call.
Speaker 5: Out that modern day arenas are being built with about
Speaker 5: one third of it coming from private money. Yes, I mean, man,
Speaker 5: that is in the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars.
Speaker 5: So no, this would not be a pure public funded project,
Speaker 5: and it would be a project that would require private
Speaker 5: EFTs to get involved. It require figuring out how we
Speaker 5: keep it occupied throughout the entire year, so it's not
Speaker 5: just sitting there vacant. There's some really good questions to it,
Speaker 5: but again it's something we have to commit to. You
Speaker 5: commit to it. It's like anything in development. You say
Speaker 5: we're going to do it, and you figure out how
Speaker 5: you're going to do it from there, What.
Speaker 3: Is the timeline in your mind?
Speaker 4: So it's up to me.
Speaker 5: As Jerry said, it would have been two weeks ago,
Speaker 5: you know, we had been doing this. I think this
Speaker 5: needs to be the priority of the next term for
Speaker 5: city Council, for the mayor.
Speaker 4: So I think by twenty.
Speaker 5: Twenty nine we need to have answers and I'd love
Speaker 5: to see shovels in the ground by then.
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm talking to council Member Seth Walsh of
Speaker 2: Cincinnati City Council on the show. With the news that
Speaker 2: the city's purchased land at near TQL Stadium, speculation is
Speaker 2: that maybe in Arena could go there. Seth Walsh not
Speaker 2: rulling that out money is the question because typically as
Speaker 2: a county and city enterprise. But we can move forward
Speaker 2: without the county involvement here, which is interesting because Commissioner
Speaker 2: Alisha Reese said on the show, you know, we're kind
Speaker 2: of broke right now, We're gonna have the money, worried
Speaker 2: about tax payers and property taxes going up on all
Speaker 2: this other stuff, and other members said, it's not even
Speaker 2: on our radar right now. Denise Dreehouse, the President said no,
Speaker 2: probably not. And that's just the best banks let alone arena.
Speaker 2: The banks have come before in arena. If they have money,
Speaker 2: do the banks? They certainly don't have money to do
Speaker 2: an arena. Let's focus on the banks thing. How do
Speaker 2: you move this forward if they're reluctant or just say
Speaker 2: simply we don't have the cash.
Speaker 5: That's a million dollic question, isn't it. The banks has
Speaker 5: never been done exclusively by the county. It has always
Speaker 5: been done through a partnership. I think the conversation that
Speaker 5: needs to be had and is happening now there's a
Speaker 5: steering committee that brought this plan together. If there's a
Speaker 5: steering committee that suggests these ideas, it is a lot
Speaker 5: of stakeholders ranging from members of the Bangles and the
Speaker 5: Reds to those who are on the banks. Already two
Speaker 5: members of the city in the county, so it's not
Speaker 5: like that. This is not a conversation actively happening between
Speaker 5: the city and the county. What we have to do
Speaker 5: is keep pushing and as from a city perspective, continue
Speaker 5: to provide support. You challenge the leaders who are in
Speaker 5: the room, who are doing the planning and making these
Speaker 5: things reality, to go out and find us these projects
Speaker 5: and these developments and then come back to us and
Speaker 5: tell us what it takes to get to happen. The
Speaker 5: resources exist for development, we see it all the time.
Speaker 5: You have talked about a number of times. Right to
Speaker 5: do that, we need the projects being brought to us.
Speaker 5: And so there are people including Phil Becker, came presented
Speaker 5: about this who this is their job to go make
Speaker 5: the plan the reality now and that's how this happens.
Speaker 5: And when they come to us and they say, hey,
Speaker 5: we've got a building, this is what it takes, then
Speaker 5: we start answering the question how we get there, whether
Speaker 5: that's through subsidies, whether that's through cras, whether that's through whatever.
Speaker 4: We start answering at that stage says Walsh.
Speaker 2: Denise Treehouse, the commissioned president, said this thing would be
Speaker 2: twenty four up to twenty four stories, and she was
Speaker 2: reluctant to agree with that because she worries about blocking daylight.
Speaker 2: This sounds like I don't know Hyde Park on the River,
Speaker 2: doesn't it.
Speaker 5: And that's my comment that I made during council. Obviously
Speaker 5: we have different meetings to discuss the same topic. But
Speaker 5: downtown is designed to be built big. It is designed
Speaker 5: for these tw It is you know when you walk
Speaker 5: around the banks.
Speaker 4: I was walking around it this morning.
Speaker 5: You know, these eleven twelve story buildings feel small because
Speaker 5: they're dwarfed by the towers that we already have downtown.
Speaker 5: And so I don't agree with that assessment. I think
Speaker 5: that the reality is we need to build height and
Speaker 5: we you know, the bigger we build it, the more
Speaker 5: people are going to live there, the more bustling it's
Speaker 5: going to be, the more successful our downtown is going
Speaker 5: to be. And I think that we need to keep
Speaker 5: that perspective of what is built already feels small, and
Speaker 5: it's not if you took what was built there, you
Speaker 5: drop it in say Hi Park, as you were just
Speaker 5: alluded to it'd be you know, twice so three times
Speaker 5: as tall as what we're talking about building in High
Speaker 5: Park already. So it's not small, but it feels small.
Speaker 5: We need to do better on the banks. We need
Speaker 5: to do better.
Speaker 2: Okay, the specific plans for this thing, it's going to
Speaker 2: be up to a twelve hundred new housing units, obviously
Speaker 2: high rise and condos and stuff like that. There's gonna
Speaker 2: be hotel there, plus retail and entertainment, as we mentioned,
Speaker 2: up to twenty four stories tall. The new lease with
Speaker 2: the Bengals allows for the taller buildings. Couldn't do that
Speaker 2: before because they had rights to the airspace or so
Speaker 2: ungodly reason. But you're talking about over these five lots
Speaker 2: doing a lot of different things in that regard. People
Speaker 2: are hearing this and go away in a minute now.
Speaker 2: Unlike what you were talking about with maybe new arena
Speaker 2: in the West End. This is taxpayer money. And how
Speaker 2: would taxpayers feel about subsidizing luxury housing?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 3: Will they be pushed back in the city on that?
Speaker 4: There certainly could be.
Speaker 5: And again you're we're going down a pathway of assuming
Speaker 5: what is going to be there. What needs to be
Speaker 5: there is housing and what that type of housing looks
Speaker 5: like is a question that developer needs to tell us.
Speaker 5: I'm a big proponent of just adding density to it
Speaker 5: and what that looks like, Let's.
Speaker 4: Figure it out, you know as well as I do.
Speaker 5: The more density you have, the less usually end up
Speaker 5: meeting per unit because it can support it. That's why
Speaker 5: one of the big questions I asked was, let's not
Speaker 5: captus the twenty four stories. You keep saying up to
Speaker 5: twenty four stories. It may need to be bigger than that.
Speaker 5: And I think we should be okay with that, and
Speaker 5: I think we should be open to that conversation because
Speaker 5: we want these projects to work, and if money is
Speaker 5: tight and being we want.
Speaker 4: To be protective of the public money.
Speaker 5: We make sure that these can cash flow and make
Speaker 5: it make sense and the developer wants to take it on.
Speaker 5: I mean, ultimately that's the goal here. And if we
Speaker 5: make it difficult for the development to happen, then yeah,
Speaker 5: we're gonna have to come up with a lot of
Speaker 5: subsidies and so there's a balancing actor.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's really cool.
Speaker 2: Is my daughter last month was in Minneapolis visiting a
Speaker 2: friend in her place. Is like looking literally looking over
Speaker 2: the stadium and the ballpark, and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: that's really really cool to be able to look down
Speaker 2: and you know, and a lot of people, a lot
Speaker 2: of young people especially love that, And that's kind of
Speaker 2: what you're proposing here. I know a lot of cities,
Speaker 2: major League cities have that, and I tend to agree
Speaker 2: with disass Stars watched on that as like it's twenty
Speaker 2: four to two short. It may and not be tall
Speaker 2: enough in that regard.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, when I walked around downtown, one of
Speaker 5: the things I think about it. Maybe it's just because
Speaker 5: you know, this is what I think about. I guess
Speaker 5: it's like, man, it would be so cool to them there.
Speaker 5: When we were designing the downtown, when we were building
Speaker 5: the towers for the first time, and we were creating
Speaker 5: the skyline.
Speaker 4: That's the opportunity that's in front of us. And we're talking.
Speaker 5: About five plots of big acreage right in the heart
Speaker 5: of downtown, literally two blocks south of you.
Speaker 4: Know, the core of downtown. We can do that.
Speaker 5: We can build the next one hundred hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: years of what Cincinnati is going to look like and
Speaker 5: feel like, and what young people are going to want
Speaker 5: to be part of you're right overlooking these stadiums.
Speaker 4: You're you know, going out on Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Night because they're living right there, like really making it
Speaker 5: something cool that people are traveling around the country to see.
Speaker 5: That's an amazing opportunity. Like, let's not lose sight of that.
Speaker 5: It's not just five parcels. It's like a huge opportunity
Speaker 5: for the next hundred years of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Okay, A legitimate question here about the timeline is the
Speaker 2: banks is already twenty years old. The stadiums are over
Speaker 2: twenty years old. At this point, we know everything has
Speaker 2: a certain longevity unless you're talking maybe I don't know
Speaker 2: the Horseshoe, Fenway Park, Wrigley Field. These are not those
Speaker 2: kind of facilities Great American and pay Corps respectively. So
Speaker 2: we're already twenty years into this thing. Another fifteen years
Speaker 2: makes it thirty five. At some point, are we building
Speaker 2: something for the future when the future with those stadiums may.
Speaker 6: Have to change.
Speaker 5: Well, And that's that's the point that I made earlier.
Speaker 5: You know, what we need to be designing the banks
Speaker 5: for as longevity, and it needs to not be just
Speaker 5: exclusively is there an arena? Are there stadiums there. What's
Speaker 5: the sport team doing for this day? It needs to
Speaker 5: be designed around a place that people are going to
Speaker 5: want to live and stay and be part of. You
Speaker 5: think about four Street or we're seeing a lot of
Speaker 5: development and activity happening, people moving to it. You know,
Speaker 5: they're there because the buildings are beautiful. They're there because
Speaker 5: they're walkable to everything that you want to do in
Speaker 5: the downtown area. And that's always going to be the
Speaker 5: case with downtown. That's the same question we have to
Speaker 5: be answering with the Banks. It's not just.
Speaker 4: About pay Court Stadium.
Speaker 5: It is about the future of who's going to stay
Speaker 5: and want to live there. Again, that's a really cool,
Speaker 5: exciting opportunity for me.
Speaker 2: It is at the same time, you know, in circling
Speaker 2: back to the question about the arena, with the purchase
Speaker 2: of the property Seth Walsh at near TQL Stadium, that
Speaker 2: a new arena could go there and you could do
Speaker 2: it without county participation, which I think is causing a
Speaker 2: lot of people to maybe give the radio their speaker's
Speaker 2: side eye this morning and their heads on the little
Speaker 2: side eye right now and go, WHOA, that was a bomb?
Speaker 2: How much weight do the Reds, the Bengals and the
Speaker 2: Banks Working Group have in this whole equation. Now we
Speaker 2: know that the contract was needed negotiated to allow twenty
Speaker 2: four stories or more to go up because the Bengals
Speaker 2: would control that. But there's a lot of stuff these lots,
Speaker 2: it looks like, you know, talgating lots and things like
Speaker 2: that that the Bengals have a say in. The Reds
Speaker 2: obviously carry a lot of weight in this equation too,
Speaker 2: as well as those who invested with the Bank's Working Group.
Speaker 2: And what's already down there regarding that, whether it's expansion
Speaker 2: of what we're talking about here or the arena, how
Speaker 2: much do they have a saying where or else it's
Speaker 2: going to go and how it's going to work out.
Speaker 5: I mean, when you say how much do they have
Speaker 5: to say are you talking about the arena?
Speaker 4: Are you talking about.
Speaker 2: Well, well, development the banks, but also let's factor the arena.
Speaker 2: Let's start with that seth. I mean, can they just say, hey,
Speaker 2: we're you're not going to put this in the West End,
Speaker 2: You're going to put it at the Banks and you're
Speaker 2: gonna we're going to tear down the tired Heritage Bank
Speaker 2: Center and maybe it's two years, but we're going to
Speaker 2: put a new one here. And that's what we've decided
Speaker 2: because we're the power brokers. I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people think that's the case inside the inside city Hall.
Speaker 3: Is that true?
Speaker 5: Well, when you talk about the arena, and as we
Speaker 5: talked about the arena study earlier, you know a third
Speaker 5: of that, you know hundreds of millions of dollars that
Speaker 5: are probably gonna have to come from private entities to
Speaker 5: make that a reality. And that's gonna be a big
Speaker 5: part of the conversation. If if the private money that's
Speaker 5: coming to the table says we're not building it at
Speaker 5: this location, X, y Z wherever that is, guess what,
Speaker 5: it's not gonna be built there because you're not gonna
Speaker 5: get private money.
Speaker 4: If they're saying that's not where it can go.
Speaker 5: So if the power brokers quote unquote whoever that is
Speaker 5: in this conversation.
Speaker 2: The illuminati said it's the Illuminati, we'll call it what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 4: Whatever we want to call it. If they want to
Speaker 4: go a certain location, they're gonna have to come to
Speaker 4: the table too. I mean, that's the thing for the arena.
Speaker 4: For the banks.
Speaker 5: We're not adversaries here. We all trying to run the
Speaker 5: same direction. And if you have a vision where you
Speaker 5: want to go, you're gonna have to step up to
Speaker 5: the table with the money and the resources and help
Speaker 5: makes that happen. None of these are gonna be cheap,
Speaker 5: but you know, the future in the vision of Cincinnati
Speaker 5: is going to come at a cost. And I think
Speaker 5: that's a good investment for us because this is something
Speaker 5: we're going to be talking about, you know, for an arena.
Speaker 5: We've been talking about arena for fifty years from the banks.
Speaker 5: Hopefully that the next one hundred years of success. People
Speaker 5: are proud that we did not saying, man, these guys
Speaker 5: really messed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, And then I think the same
Speaker 2: is probably true when it comes to the redevelopment down
Speaker 2: there as well. They have a say, but they don't
Speaker 2: get veto power.
Speaker 4: Correct. Yeah, that's exactly it.
Speaker 5: You know, we're all a team, but ultimately we got
Speaker 5: to be looking long term about what's being what's happening here.
Speaker 5: They have a seat at the table, they've been very
Speaker 5: involved in that. My understanding is they're very supportive of
Speaker 5: what the plan is. That's that's exactly what this needs
Speaker 5: to be all right, team, let's make it happen together.
Speaker 3: Got it?
Speaker 2: Council Member Seth Walla's always a pleasure, love the insight.
Speaker 2: Thanks again for coming on the show and Ed and
Speaker 2: I'm sure we will want to talk but have a
Speaker 2: wonderful thanksgiving you too, Scott, all right, take care, appreciate
Speaker 2: your time as always. Let me get a time out
Speaker 2: in some reaction maybe here too as well. And that
Speaker 2: sounds like a you know what, a big middle finger
Speaker 2: to the county Commission.
Speaker 3: Don't you like you know what? You guys won't move up.
Speaker 3: We got this, we got.
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Speaker 2: And just posting up on social the conversation I just
Speaker 2: had with Congress Congress members council Member Seth Walsh in
Speaker 2: Congress People on yesterday, counsel Member Seth Walsh, who is
Speaker 2: the big pro development guy on council. And make no
Speaker 2: mistake about it, you'll be hearing this now, I'm guessing
Speaker 2: probably today in the news cycle about his proclamation, it's
Speaker 2: actually saying, look, we're going to do an arena with
Speaker 2: or without the county. Now, this on the heels of
Speaker 2: what we're discussing with the Banks project too, which you know,
Speaker 2: you go down there, well down there, even if you're
Speaker 2: not a Reds or Bengals fan, you go to the area,
Speaker 2: you go, why do we have these concrete It looks like,
Speaker 2: I don't know Cincinna's version a stonehenge. I think a
Speaker 2: janky stone. We've got all these concrete piers down there
Speaker 2: with nothing on it. You know, there's a rebar exposed.
Speaker 2: It's unsightly, it's awful. You look, I go twenty years ago,
Speaker 2: we've got the bags going and we still have undeveloped laying.
Speaker 2: They want to get this together and spend seven hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty to eight hundred million dollars to build twenty
Speaker 2: four stories or higher, get a hotel, get housing down there,
Speaker 2: get young people, young professionals in the city. A lot
Speaker 2: of questions about that relative to affordable housing, which I understand.
Speaker 2: And we've got a great political divide over this because
Speaker 2: the Commission says we're broke, we don't have the money
Speaker 2: twenty four stories is too high. There's no impetus to
Speaker 2: get the sun by the County. Meanwhile, the city in
Speaker 2: South Walsh and other members of council, and I haven't
Speaker 2: surveyed all members of council, but I know it's unanimous
Speaker 2: if they all feel we need to move forward and
Speaker 2: need to move forward now. They wanted to start this
Speaker 2: thing yesterday and the County says it's not even on
Speaker 2: our radar right now. Can you do that without the County?
Speaker 2: The answer is no, So we pivot to mayor aftab
Speaker 2: vault and two days in a row. I give credit
Speaker 2: where credits due, and I give criticism where criticisms due.
Speaker 2: I'm not carrying the water for anybody. I just want
Speaker 2: stuff to work. I want common sense to rain, and
Speaker 2: I want freedom. Those three things, free to as an
Speaker 2: adult to side adult things that I want to do
Speaker 2: with my life outside and inside wherever it might be,
Speaker 2: as long as I'm not hurting somewhere else. Generally, that's
Speaker 2: my life philosophy. You do you, I'll do me. We
Speaker 2: can help each other along the way. That's how things
Speaker 2: should work in a perfect world. We're not in a
Speaker 2: perfect world. But the County says, hey, we don't have
Speaker 2: money to the banks. Do you think they're going to
Speaker 2: have the money to do an arena project? No, And
Speaker 2: so the city goes under aftad pure Vall, the mayor
Speaker 2: announcing yesterday we just bought spent four million dollars buying
Speaker 2: the old freestore food bank location on Central Parkway, which
Speaker 2: is kind of a cross if you like.
Speaker 3: Where is that?
Speaker 2: It's a cross right next to CET but across kind
Speaker 2: of kitty corner from Queen City Radio, which is a
Speaker 2: great bar right there in the shadows of tiqu Up
Speaker 2: and Seth Wall saying well, you know CET, we own
Speaker 2: the land there. We can move them fifty million out
Speaker 2: of whatever would costs for an arena. It's not that
Speaker 2: big an ask. We've got enough room to drop an
Speaker 2: arena right there. Can you do that with out the
Speaker 2: county involvement? The answer is, well, we prefer to partner,
Speaker 2: but ultimately we own the land, we own the airspace.
Speaker 2: We could get the developers together, the city could do
Speaker 2: their own damn arena. How about that? And what does
Speaker 2: that mean then for the future of the Banks. You've
Speaker 2: got great American Ballpark, which, by the way, they're going
Speaker 2: to start getting our proposals bids basically recusts our bids
Speaker 2: to remodel Great American like we just did pay Court.
Speaker 2: So city's got to look at that kind of money.
Speaker 2: So can the city build a new arena, leave tired
Speaker 2: old heritage Bank center behind and kind of start developing
Speaker 2: what the bank should have looked like twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: Because of the failure of the county and the city
Speaker 2: to get together and come up with a plan, we've
Speaker 2: got twenty years later, still undeveloped lan in the most
Speaker 2: pricey area of town in downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: I think the.
Speaker 2: First salvo in the Civil War between the count of
Speaker 2: the city has been fired by Seth Walsh on The
Speaker 2: Scotsland Show this morning. It's gonna be interesting how this
Speaker 2: plays out. Speaking of stadium, speaking of sports, and speaking
Speaker 2: of entertainment. The other big news this morning is whether
Speaker 2: or not Joe Burrow will play against the Patriots in
Speaker 2: New England on Sunday. Now you look at their record
Speaker 2: with the three wins, go man at the path of
Speaker 2: the playoffs is damn near impossible. You never want to
Speaker 2: say never in the it's c NFL parody and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, But knowing the way the Bengals play defense
Speaker 2: and sometimes offense is not happening. We know Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: is possibly beyond a repair at this point. He's having
Speaker 2: a heart He's not even practicing, can't throw a ball
Speaker 2: to Jake Browning is not throwing. The other element here too,
Speaker 2: is this bombshell that our own Tom Brandman dropped this
Speaker 2: morning on his show, like maybe an hour hour and
Speaker 2: a half ago, in his interview with the head coach,
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. If he didn't hear this, he asked him
Speaker 2: in practice, what did you see out of Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: this week?
Speaker 7: That was pleased? I bet he looked good first day
Speaker 7: taking eleven on eleven reps, and so that was a
Speaker 7: great starting point for him, and I hadn't done that
Speaker 7: for two months. So I was pleased before I saw.
Speaker 8: You know, I did the NFL on Fox for twenty
Speaker 8: five years, and I know that the league and the
Speaker 8: teams take these injury reports very very seriously. He is
Speaker 8: listed as a full participant. Is Joe Burrow going to
Speaker 8: play on Sunday?
Speaker 4: Well, we don't know that yet.
Speaker 7: You know, it's kind of a balance of Joe Flacco
Speaker 7: has n't been practicing on Wednesdays. So it was a
Speaker 7: great opportiony to get Joe Burrow out there to take
Speaker 7: as many reps as possible. So yeah, he took all
Speaker 7: the reps, but but that was a balance with Joe
Speaker 7: has not been practicing on Wednesdays last few weeks, and
Speaker 7: so we'll just keep working through these next couple of days.
Speaker 8: When do you plan on making a decision about that?
Speaker 8: Because look, it's what everybody's talking about. I mean, you
Speaker 8: were born maybe at night, but not last night.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 8: That's what everybody is talking about. Is Joe Burrow coming back?
Speaker 8: So you know, I mean, is there let's put it
Speaker 8: this way, is there a chance that he plays Sunday?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not there yet.
Speaker 7: You know, it's one day of practice. Isn't going to
Speaker 7: lead to that decision yet.
Speaker 4: So we're here.
Speaker 7: Is the time we have at our disposal and come
Speaker 7: with the best decision we can.
Speaker 8: Are you amazed by how quickly he's recovered from this.
Speaker 8: I have Julieusfording, who was an Olympian marathon runner. She
Speaker 8: had the same thing to Joe Burrow said it was
Speaker 8: the most grueling rehab that she's ever been through. And
Speaker 8: she's been through back surgeries and knee surgeries and all
Speaker 8: that kind of thing. Are you even amazed that he's
Speaker 8: even on the practice field at this point in time?
Speaker 4: Am I amazed now?
Speaker 7: Because I've watched this guy for the last six years
Speaker 7: and I've seen him. He's obviously wired different than everybody else.
Speaker 7: That's why he's.
Speaker 4: Who he is.
Speaker 7: Why he's a National champion, Heisman Trophy, winning, first pick
Speaker 7: in the draft, all that kind of stuff, NFL comeback player,
Speaker 7: the all the stuff that he earned.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 7: I've just now seen enough to where I just know
Speaker 7: that's who he is. And this isn't the first rehab
Speaker 7: he's had to go through, so he knew what that
Speaker 7: process was. Obviously different injuries. Proud of him, not surprised,
Speaker 7: maybe surprises the rest of the world, but is really
Speaker 7: impressive the work that he's done to get back on
Speaker 7: the field as quickly.
Speaker 4: As he did.
Speaker 8: Coach you feel mind, So it sort of take us
Speaker 8: inside football here on something like this, and look, you
Speaker 8: have to make a decision, and you'll consult with others,
Speaker 8: But will this be a situation where Joe might come
Speaker 8: into you, Joe Burrow, he might come to you and
Speaker 8: say hey, you know, coach, I feel like I'm ready
Speaker 8: to go.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, And then that's that's that's my job,
Speaker 9: you know, to balance, balance all the information and protect
Speaker 9: the player and make the.
Speaker 7: Best decision possible. But yeah, absolutely, he's he's certainly got
Speaker 7: his opinions when he's put in the work and feels
Speaker 7: how he does, and and we'll balance all that information.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 8: Come on, come on, coach, come on, I'm gonna circle
Speaker 8: back to it one more time.
Speaker 4: I have to do it.
Speaker 8: There are more people that listening to this morning show
Speaker 8: than anywhere else, and they are huge me too, Bengo fait,
Speaker 8: Come on, coach, you can tell us right now Burrow's
Speaker 8: playing it.
Speaker 3: He's playing it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I wish I could. I wish I had
Speaker 7: that decision today, you know. Honestly, it's I'm going to
Speaker 7: take in all the information I can and make sure
Speaker 7: it's the best one for for Joe and our team,
Speaker 7: and we'll go from there, all right.
Speaker 2: That is Zach Tanner on with our Tom Brenhaman this
Speaker 2: morning on seven hundred WLW. I also love how Tom
Speaker 2: dropped in the do you know who? I was lying
Speaker 2: at the beginning there about twenty five years the NFL.
Speaker 3: I thought he was.
Speaker 2: Tom's questions were awesome, as as only Tom can do
Speaker 2: right about what in pressing him U And so you
Speaker 2: know it's coaching it in answer. And the way the
Speaker 2: timeline on this works, I believe I'm gonna have Tony
Speaker 2: Pike on after ten o'clock to talk about this. Is
Speaker 2: you know you have until what tomorrow or is it Saturday?
Speaker 2: I think to make the roster move. And we know
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is not anywhere near a hundred percent with
Speaker 2: his injury. We know that while Jake Browning is Jake Browning,
Speaker 2: is it almost forcing their hand like, hey, we have
Speaker 2: no one else, We're going to have to play Burrow
Speaker 2: if he's cleared to play. Now again, you are risking
Speaker 2: the future because you imagine, mean God forbid, something happens
Speaker 2: to him in this game against New England or in
Speaker 2: the next couple of games for that matter. You know
Speaker 2: you only got three wins. The playoffs are it's kind
Speaker 2: of like an led not even a light, but like
Speaker 2: a small led light at the end of the tunnel
Speaker 2: you could barely see if you squint your eyes. The
Speaker 2: chances of them making the postseason. I don't know, if
Speaker 2: you're a core Bengals fan, you don't want to hear that,
Speaker 2: but that's real. It's awfully difficult to come back to
Speaker 2: three and seven, even with Joe Burrow. But you know
Speaker 2: that Joe Burrow doesn't play defense either. He also doesn't
Speaker 2: generally turn the ball over on off. We saw that
Speaker 2: last week as well, So we could see him tomorrow
Speaker 2: or maybe Saturday, and then do they activate him from
Speaker 2: the game because they'd probably have to cut Browning to
Speaker 2: make roster spot for him. And does that even make
Speaker 2: sense at this point? And if you're going, okay, well,
Speaker 2: this is great to say, listen to the you know,
Speaker 2: go back in your head there. And as Tom was
Speaker 2: pressing him, and he seemed like, kind of, I don't
Speaker 2: know if your guy wasn't ready to play.
Speaker 3: And maybe I'm reading too much into this.
Speaker 2: I probably am, but speaking with people, as I often
Speaker 2: do about matters, he can kind of It's not body language,
Speaker 2: but it's more like voice language, you know what I mean. Boy,
Speaker 2: he seemed b offfully loose, didn't he. He seemed like
Speaker 2: to be in a really, really good mood for a
Speaker 2: guy who's facing I mean, let's face it, even in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: he's on the hot seat. Duke Tobin's on the hot seat,
Speaker 2: there's no question, and he's looking at it's going, well,
Speaker 2: my MVP quarterback is out. I've got Joe Flacco, who
Speaker 2: is great those first game, but now he's hurt. And
Speaker 2: Jake Browning is the reason why Joe Flacco's here and
Speaker 2: also the reason why we've lost seven games, not all seven,
Speaker 2: but certainly, you know, if he were pressing you on
Speaker 2: the health of Joe Burrow and Joe wasn't ready to play,
Speaker 2: don't you think he'd kind of shut that down. But
Speaker 2: he sounded like loose and happy and ready for New England,
Speaker 2: the best team in football, to come to Cincinnati on Sunday.
Speaker 2: And again, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a chance it's like it sounds
Speaker 2: like maybe Joe Burrow will play on Sunday. Again, complete
Speaker 2: speculation here, but man, he seemed to be in a
Speaker 2: really good mood coach when being pressed, and normally if
Speaker 2: that's not the case, you know, they get their data
Speaker 2: up a little bit and push back, and coaches are
Speaker 2: good at shutting down. Journalists are people asking questions and
Speaker 2: try to make you feel stupid, and that's kind of
Speaker 2: what their job is.
Speaker 3: I understand that.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll see how this plays out, and maybe some
Speaker 2: insight here from Tony Pike come up after ten o'clock
Speaker 2: this morning on seven hundred ww's Scott's Loan Show. We
Speaker 2: got that going on. We also have this if you're
Speaker 2: traveling over the holidays. There's been a four hundred percent
Speaker 2: increase in unruly passenger incidents on planes over the last
Speaker 2: six years, four hundred percent increase. So the Secretary of
Speaker 2: Transportation is launching a new campaign to restore what they
Speaker 2: call courtesy in class to air travel, urging travelers to
Speaker 2: ask themselves questions like are you dressing with respect? Are
Speaker 2: you keeping control of your children? Are you saying please
Speaker 2: and thank you? Sounds like Terry Thiji all over again.
Speaker 2: I'm watching you, You're watching me, I'm watching you. The
Speaker 2: DOT believes that this is going to help ensure the
Speaker 2: safety of passengers and gate workers, flight attendants, pilot's, ground crews,
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I think it's an interesting strategy
Speaker 2: in the sense that is it nineteen fifty all over again,
Speaker 2: Because you know that mom guilt thing, you really grandma
Speaker 2: guilt that we know that there's a back life. We
Speaker 2: know that doesn't work, And I get it. You know,
Speaker 2: there's an appeal to personal responsibility, to social norms, to
Speaker 2: civility and etiquette as a safety concerned but you know,
Speaker 2: certainly it's kind of vague. It's also unenforceable, and it's
Speaker 2: voluntary compliance. It just sounds a little condescending and lecturing.
Speaker 2: But let's face it, does it really address the root
Speaker 2: causes to be kind of We have crowded over crowded planes,
Speaker 2: we have delays, we have stress, we have people who
Speaker 2: are drinking before, during, and after the flight, and of
Speaker 2: course we have an attitude where everyone is the most
Speaker 2: important person on the face of the earth. The most
Speaker 2: important person is me, is what the belief is. And
Speaker 2: when you put that toxic mix of all that together,
Speaker 2: I think just asking to be nice to each other,
Speaker 2: it's going to miss the mark because they're not. Because
Speaker 2: it's it's all relative, you know, morality of sense has
Speaker 2: become a relative thing. You know, how dare you tell
Speaker 2: me how to dress, don't tell me what to do,
Speaker 2: don't disrespect me. Meanwhile, you're disrespecting everyone else by acting
Speaker 2: the way you're acting had a large number of the reasons.
Speaker 2: You know, airlines are, despite the spike, air travels still
Speaker 2: relatively cheap. So in that tends to let's face it,
Speaker 2: if if not that certainly rich people don't act poorly.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Wepstein thing, right, But in
Speaker 2: that regard too, is you know, when when the price
Speaker 2: tickets come down everything to afford a flight, there are
Speaker 2: people there who just simply don't know how to act
Speaker 2: in public. You see it all the time on flights.
Speaker 2: So in the other limit too, Quite honestly, there's no
Speaker 2: mention of airline or staff training or accountability from them,
Speaker 2: because I've seen flight attendants and maybe you're having a
Speaker 2: bad day, but I've seen flight attendants act poorly and
Speaker 2: it's certainly not the fault of the passenger if they're
Speaker 2: short or angry with you, and that escalates a situation.
Speaker 2: I know, you can have a bad day, but the
Speaker 2: passenger is not allowed to. And it doesn't addrust the
Speaker 2: as I said, seat size, overbooking, service cuts, and people
Speaker 2: maybe flying infrequently and not understanding how things work. I mean,
Speaker 2: you see fights over overhead space all the time. You
Speaker 2: know you'll let somebody bring in I don't know, a
Speaker 2: piano with them and sticking overhead and there's no room
Speaker 2: for everyone else. It's like, well, why aren't you stopping
Speaker 2: that at the gate, and they won't do it. So
Speaker 2: airlines bring a lot of the sound themselves, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. Asking about whether or not you should be
Speaker 2: dressing with respect or use some courtesy in class, maybe
Speaker 2: you always try to, but if somebody's being jerky with me,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you jerky times ten right back. And
Speaker 2: it just it doesn't make for a pleasant experience. So
Speaker 2: I mean, that's say that seems kind of like a
Speaker 2: desperate ploy But I don't I think the people who
Speaker 2: would go, yeah, okay, I can do that are not
Speaker 2: the people that are gonna cause problems in the first place.
Speaker 2: Let's call it what it is. We've got a news
Speaker 2: update where return T Pike is here. We'll talk about, well,
Speaker 2: you just heard with Joe Burrow. Will he or won't
Speaker 2: he on Sunday is the question, and it's I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's starting to sound like maybe more like he may
Speaker 2: be the guy. We may see QB one back at
Speaker 2: the Helm against Drake May and the best team in
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Speaker 10: Don't want to be.
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Speaker 2: busy day, the big news sports wise as we had
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Speaker 11: Here.
Speaker 2: Of course, we've got a huge game with UC at
Speaker 2: Heritage Bank. We've got though, which I understand. Ticket sales
Speaker 2: are going pretty good, so if you want to get in,
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Speaker 2: playing messy at TQL, winner takes all, and then the
Speaker 2: Bengals on Sunday against the high flying league leading Drake
Speaker 2: May and New England Patriots coming to town. And as
Speaker 2: a Bills fan, I want to see the Bengals crush
Speaker 2: the Patriots to help me out a little bit, but
Speaker 2: I also want to see the Bengals do well. I
Speaker 2: have question whether or not Joe Flacco can throw the
Speaker 2: football any longer. I don't think Jake Brownie could ever
Speaker 2: throw football. In the last couple of years and now
Speaker 2: the question, as you heard with Tom brunhaman this morning
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred WLW in his weekly with Zach Taylor.
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor said, well see, and he wasn't an unusually
Speaker 2: good move, which leads me to believe that there's a
Speaker 2: good chance that Burrow may be starting on Sunday against
Speaker 2: New England on that is the hall of fame of
Speaker 2: the living legend, the straw that stirs the drink, the
Speaker 2: songbird of his generation.
Speaker 12: Tony Pike, oddly enough, you're just gonna leave out UC
Speaker 12: hosting BYU and your weekend plans. Oh yeah, just an
Speaker 12: insane ambition to start this. I had a feeling you
Speaker 12: may bring that up with BYU coming to town. And
Speaker 12: I know how high you are on the Bearcats, right yeah, yeah,
Speaker 12: yeahing's everything's great in bearcat Land.
Speaker 3: At Arizona, at home.
Speaker 4: Come on, yeah.
Speaker 12: Not ideal, not good, not ideal, controlling their own destiny
Speaker 12: not anymore for the Bearcats.
Speaker 3: Not good. But we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a chance you could beat by you
Speaker 2: and sure it be a stunnard, be unbelievable, knock them.
Speaker 3: There's a chance for a lot of things.
Speaker 2: A lot of things gonna happen. There's a chance that
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow may play. I played earlier Tom Brenneman in
Speaker 2: his about three minutes of him talking to Zach Taylor,
Speaker 2: and I think I took away with it because and
Speaker 2: you clarified, I know that they have to make a decision.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the timeline here. What has to happen
Speaker 2: for Joe Burr to play.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they would essentially make the decision on his availability
Speaker 12: tomorrow and then ninety minutes leading up to kickoff on
Speaker 12: Sunday as your active or inactive report. You know, I
Speaker 12: I've listened multiple times now to Zach with Tom today,
Speaker 12: and I listened to I'm a big Dan Rolofsky guy,
Speaker 12: and I listened to Dani Rolofski yesterday and Danie Rolofsky.
Speaker 12: As soon as the report came out that Joe Burrow
Speaker 12: was full, Dan Rolofsky said, he's going to be playing.
Speaker 12: You don't There's been so many things the Bengals could
Speaker 12: have done in the last twenty four to forty eight
Speaker 12: hours to not make this what it is put him
Speaker 12: as limited on like practices are open to start and
Speaker 12: then it's closed. If you haven't listed as limited. No
Speaker 12: one's going to bat an eye. You listened to him
Speaker 12: as a full participant. Zach Taylor has had ten chances
Speaker 12: to shoot this down and say, ah, we're just not
Speaker 12: there yet or close. He needs time and he's not
Speaker 12: done that. Everything that they could have done to eliminate
Speaker 12: this conversation we're having right now could have been done
Speaker 12: which would lead me to believe that number nine is
Speaker 12: going to be available to play.
Speaker 2: I think the other thing too, and I if you
Speaker 2: listen to this the three minutes, Zach Tatlor's awfully jovial
Speaker 2: with Tom Brenneman. Like normally, if if you're starting quarterback
Speaker 2: of Joe Brow, he can't go, he's still he's not
Speaker 2: gonna be active. We know Joff Flacco is not good
Speaker 2: health wise right now.
Speaker 12: You don't have Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2: You don't have Jamar Chase, right you don't have Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 2: You you got Jake Browning. Basically maybe maybe not, wouldn't
Speaker 2: you be a little bit more shirling, like quit asking
Speaker 2: me about this, Let's just focus on New England. Typically
Speaker 2: that's Coach you saying it's like we're focused on New
Speaker 2: England and.
Speaker 12: At the court of your three wins. Yeah, you're a
Speaker 12: three weeks. You're not going to come on on a
Speaker 12: Thursday morning.
Speaker 3: Your job is on the line.
Speaker 12: Yeah, ready to attack the day. And then everything you
Speaker 12: just outlined to me, the biggest is the best player
Speaker 12: on this offense, Jamar Chase is not going to play
Speaker 12: on Sunday. So already, mentally, three wins, how are you
Speaker 12: going to get an offense to function without the best
Speaker 12: wide receiver football? Your defense tied an NFL record, You've
Speaker 12: given up twenty seven or more and nine straight games. Normally,
Speaker 12: that's not the attitude of a coach that's gonna come
Speaker 12: on and sound as you mentioned, as jovial as Zach
Speaker 12: Taylor was today. It's incredible. I again, I at this
Speaker 12: point fully think that that Joe Burrow is gonna play,
Speaker 12: and that opens up the brief small window of if
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow is gonna play, can they run the table?
Speaker 12: Who knows? But it does give one more if it
Speaker 12: feels like this team we talked during the red season
Speaker 12: feels like the Reds multiple times were like five seconds
Speaker 12: away in a boxing round of getting knocked out right
Speaker 12: and they lasted and they survived. The round and then
Speaker 12: they came out swinging again, and I feel lucky out
Speaker 12: your guard down. It's like and I feel like we've
Speaker 12: done this like five times with the Bengals already, and
Speaker 12: it felt like after the Pittsburgh game, coming off the
Speaker 12: loss to the Jets and Bears, it was like, it
Speaker 12: feels like it's over. Why would you bring Joe Burrow
Speaker 12: back on Thanksgiving? Well, now, all of a sudden, mathematically
Speaker 12: you're a little still there, right, and that that that
Speaker 12: gives and breeze life back into a lot of Bengals.
Speaker 2: It's that like a light at the end of It's
Speaker 2: almost lot like the flame from a birthday candle. Right,
Speaker 2: I mean, I like one of your wives, that's the
Speaker 2: one that gets blown out of I think that's light. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it continues to light light up again. It officially does
Speaker 2: a long tunnel. I can't see that far. And it
Speaker 2: makes you think, man, if he could have played against Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: I think you had a better chance.
Speaker 3: Think you may win and win that game. But New
Speaker 3: England scares me.
Speaker 2: Although you look at New England's record and maybe there's
Speaker 2: a home run me talking is they're kind of due
Speaker 2: for one here, you know, they're close to a couple
Speaker 2: of games, and and you know this isn't the seventy
Speaker 2: two Dolphins for crying out loud. Uh, you got Baltimore twice.
Speaker 2: That'll be a battle Buffalo. Who knows which Bills team
Speaker 2: shows up there in Miami, Arizona, Cleveland. Uh, those should
Speaker 2: be wins there. So if you bank on it and
Speaker 2: say he's back, maybe you do get those three wins
Speaker 2: at that six. Can you get three more between now
Speaker 2: and then? Pittsburgh would have been great, sweet the series,
Speaker 2: but New England's going to be really, really tough.
Speaker 12: But you got a chance with Burrow there. Yeah, the
Speaker 12: AFC North was kind of what everyone was circling. That's
Speaker 12: what makes the Pittsburgh loss so devastating.
Speaker 3: But you're right.
Speaker 12: I mean, if this is a New England team where
Speaker 12: you're talking about it's the top defense in the NFL
Speaker 12: and an offense that struggles. It's what New England does
Speaker 12: offensively that worries me because it's the Bengals inability to
Speaker 12: stop anyone on the defensive side of the ball. And
Speaker 12: here comes Drake May who's an MVP favorite or CO
Speaker 12: favorite right now, to win that award in just his
Speaker 12: second year in the NFL. They mesh together so well
Speaker 12: they present. What they do really well is what the
Speaker 12: Bengals don't do, which starts with tackling and so many
Speaker 12: other things. But you know, the Joe Burrow aspect of
Speaker 12: this is odd. You know, if Joe Burrow was healthy
Speaker 12: against the Bears and the Jets, they probably still lose
Speaker 12: those games. He you couldn't have played any better. So
Speaker 12: can Joe Burrow's return or potential return help the defense?
Speaker 12: I don't know. But as you outlined, how odd is
Speaker 12: it that we sit here today talking if the playoffs
Speaker 12: were to start, the playoffs in the AFC don't have
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson. I mean, there are
Speaker 12: a lot of stars on the outside looking in. Something's
Speaker 12: going to have to give as the season rolls on.
Speaker 12: And if Joe Burrow is playing, at least you get
Speaker 12: the stretch run like you had last year, where you
Speaker 12: feel like you have a chance every week.
Speaker 2: Now, Ultimately, here's the other thing too, three and seven.
Speaker 2: That's a long shot to make the playoffs. Teams don't
Speaker 2: make the playoffs usually that that's the case. The concern
Speaker 2: on the other side of this Okay, do we shut
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow down. We're just talking about this yesterday, right
Speaker 2: now today, Okam, he may play a different thing, God forbid.
Speaker 2: Something happens down the stretch here he comes back, maybe
Speaker 2: a little too early, something else happens.
Speaker 3: This team has a lot of holes.
Speaker 2: Maybe something occurs, and now that sets him back in
Speaker 2: the offseason. Yeah, you got to think about that. If
Speaker 2: you're Zach Tannler, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 12: The initial worries for me is not Joe Burrow in
Speaker 12: the shotgun because it's his left foot. The initial worry
Speaker 12: for me has been about going under center. I mean,
Speaker 12: we have talked so much in the last weeks about
Speaker 12: Joe Flocco's ability to unlock this offense and help the
Speaker 12: old line and help the running game because he goes
Speaker 12: under center. Joe Burrow is already not comfortable going under center.
Speaker 12: And the one thing that I worry about if you
Speaker 12: think of under center plays, how many quarterbacks do you
Speaker 12: see on a weekly basis going under center and as
Speaker 12: they push away from the center, they get stepped on
Speaker 12: by a guard pulling, or a center pounds on a
Speaker 12: tone that is surgically like that. That to me was
Speaker 12: always the worry of Okay, if Joe can play, can
Speaker 12: he play in a full capacity? Are there limitations where
Speaker 12: he's only in shotgun? Because I don't know if I
Speaker 12: still trust this O line in just Shotgun. I don't
Speaker 12: know if they can run the ball consistently in just shotgun.
Speaker 12: If you're telling me Joe Burrow has no limitations, he
Speaker 12: can go under center twenty five times, great, But are
Speaker 12: you willing to put him under center and ask him
Speaker 12: to violently push off on that left toe and run
Speaker 12: the risk of someone stepping on him with a lot
Speaker 12: of traffic in the middle there? That would be what
Speaker 12: would worry me? And again, can you can you avoid
Speaker 12: a setback that then takes Joe Burrow out for the offseason?
Speaker 12: And then we're talking about another offseason where Joe Burrow
Speaker 12: was compromised less than ideal off season, a less than
Speaker 12: ideal training camp that would be the ultimate doomsday scenario
Speaker 12: for this team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and something.
Speaker 2: This is a lesser example, obviously, but I had a
Speaker 2: ruptured tendon to my foot. I'm walking around with a
Speaker 2: boot and I was about five weeks I got the
Speaker 2: boot off. You're like you met, you're letting a really
Speaker 2: significant progress I'm about eight weeks out right now from
Speaker 2: that and I'm doing PT and stuff, but I know,
Speaker 2: like I still am reluctant to push off and do
Speaker 2: And you know, granted I'm thirty years older than he is.
Speaker 2: He's getting treated like a waygoo beefcalf for the rubbing,
Speaker 2: hum and massage. When we got trainers, a whole different paradigm,
Speaker 2: the nutrition, the training all. I appreciate that, but at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's still a in this case,
Speaker 2: a ligament and his toe versus a ten in my foot.
Speaker 2: You know, it's you're still in that eight week window
Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, we can start generally you start RHIAs.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he may be clear to practice and he's
Speaker 2: throwing and said, but you could still reinjure that and
Speaker 2: it wouldn't take as much as it would Prior to.
Speaker 12: Anyone that has ever been through a major type of
Speaker 12: surgery nose, there is one wrong move or one wrong
Speaker 12: thing and it has set yourself right. So there is
Speaker 12: to me. I went through it when I was at
Speaker 12: uc and playing because I had the same injury back
Speaker 12: to back years. And I've said this before, there's a
Speaker 12: physical side to rehab. That sucks. The mental side, to
Speaker 12: me was worse because for Joe Burrow, he's had so
Speaker 12: many major injuries. When you get injured, you know, okay,
Speaker 12: physically this is going to be a grind. But mentally,
Speaker 12: in that setting, you're away from the team, you're alone,
Speaker 12: you're rehabbing, and you've been through it already. You know
Speaker 12: the mental toll it takes going forward, That to me
Speaker 12: is what worries me about a setback. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 12: physically I feel great. It takes one wrong move or
Speaker 12: one thing to happen and then physically you're back in
Speaker 12: the can and then mentally it's and I got to
Speaker 12: do this again. I don't know how many more times
Speaker 12: I can do this. And you know, I mean Joe Burt.
Speaker 12: We're talking about you know, Joe Burrow, and we say
Speaker 12: it jokingly. So you're gonna win a three time Comeback
Speaker 12: Player of the Year. You don't want to have that distinction.
Speaker 12: You don't want to be up for the award of
Speaker 12: Comeback Player of the Year threty different times because that
Speaker 12: says you're coming back from major injury CATLA trophy.
Speaker 2: You want on a Lobarties, which are three yeld parties
Speaker 2: is better than Yeah.
Speaker 12: The mental side, man, is always what's worried.
Speaker 2: More than sorry, even when you're doing physic because you're
Speaker 2: missing out, you're sitting there watching the world go by.
Speaker 3: I mean that's just me.
Speaker 2: But this guy's, you know, his prime of his career
Speaker 2: right now, and every game is every game means something
Speaker 2: because that's less time you're gonna be able to play
Speaker 2: professional football. Tony Pike and studio is a little bit
Speaker 2: about that throwing a football. And Joe Burrow now where
Speaker 2: it sounds like he's going to play on Sunday. At
Speaker 2: this point, we're just worried about the repercussions. If again,
Speaker 2: maybe you gets stepped down, something happens it Could it
Speaker 2: be career ending? Could it be debilitating because you if
Speaker 2: the same thing happens again, you're talking about going in
Speaker 2: and repairing the same injury. That's going to add time.
Speaker 2: What happens the off season? Are you throwing away twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six? Those all have to be going through Zach
Speaker 2: Tittor's mind as supposed to win in right now? How
Speaker 2: much do you think a coach weighs that.
Speaker 12: It has to It has to be weighed upon, and
Speaker 12: I think for the timeline the Bengals are on right now.
Speaker 12: If this was Baltimore, or if this was even Buffalo,
Speaker 12: the conversation changes because, let's face it, with no Jamar
Speaker 12: Chase and no Joe Burrow, they're not beating New England.
Speaker 12: Now you're three and eight, and the math just becomes
Speaker 12: almost impossible. There is a space out there of well,
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow is making fifty five million dollars, there's still
Speaker 12: mathematically in it. You have to trust the training staff.
Speaker 12: That to me, is what it comes down to. If
Speaker 12: the the training staff is meeting daily, sometimes multiple times
Speaker 12: a day with the coaching staff. If the training staff
Speaker 12: is saying to me, he's good to go, there's no worry,
Speaker 12: there's no risk here, he's cleared, then I'm playing him.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 12: If this conversation is he can play, but he can't
Speaker 12: do this. He can play, but you got to watch
Speaker 12: out for that, then I'm not running him out there
Speaker 12: because the again, the chance of them running the table
Speaker 12: and getting in is minuscule. The chance. If a trainer
Speaker 12: is telling me, well, of course there's a possibility of
Speaker 12: something here, well, then my mind's it goes to what
Speaker 12: you just outlined of offseason twenty twenty six. You know,
Speaker 12: this team already has enough hurdles to overcome going into
Speaker 12: next year. Already they've got to refit, they've got to
Speaker 12: to address a defense again, they've got to probably address
Speaker 12: a couple questions on the offensive line. If you're worrying
Speaker 12: about quarterback and getting the off season, it's a nightmare.
Speaker 12: But if the training staff, who you trust, is saying
Speaker 12: you're good to go, and that was my thing when
Speaker 12: I played. It took me to hear the training staff
Speaker 12: say you're good, nothing worse can happen. Right, you're good
Speaker 12: to go, then then let's go.
Speaker 2: Okay, So but here's let me play a Douvile's avocat
Speaker 2: because you, as a player, you want to play Tony.
Speaker 2: I'ms right right, You're gonna run through walls and knowing
Speaker 2: a little bit about rehab myself, okay, you want to
Speaker 2: get back to do what you're gonna do.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day.
Speaker 2: It's an intangible because isn't the training staff and the
Speaker 2: doctors aren't the positions, aren't they Despite of the imaging
Speaker 2: and tests that they do, you still have to take
Speaker 2: the player's word for it.
Speaker 3: Does this hurt.
Speaker 2: Do you as a quarterback and you're like, hey, you
Speaker 2: know what I really want to play? Do you sometimes
Speaker 2: go no, that's fine when maybe you're not being fully
Speaker 2: transparent and would Joe Burrow do that? So at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, you're just relying on that person
Speaker 2: who wants to play, who's competitive, and may go it's
Speaker 2: this a little pain, I don't care. Does that jeopardize us?
Speaker 12: It could, But I think in an injury like this,
Speaker 12: you're doing so many follow up scans and imaging that
Speaker 12: you can see if everything's healed around it. I think
Speaker 12: pain management is a part of what you have to
Speaker 12: do going in anyway, you know that you have to
Speaker 12: manage pain. But I want to know imaging wise, is
Speaker 12: it one hundred percent healed? Is it eighty percent healed?
Speaker 12: Because if it's eighty percent, now we're rolling the dice yes, right,
Speaker 12: So that to me is that conversation. It's similar to
Speaker 12: a conversation. You know, we got the bombshell yesterday from
Speaker 12: Nick Crawl that you know Ellie Davila Cruz was dealing
Speaker 12: with a slight tear. Okay, well, then someone should have
Speaker 12: been operating in Ellie's best interest because in your point, Yes,
Speaker 12: Ellie's not going to say take me out. He wants
Speaker 12: to play one sixty two. Joe Burrow wants to play
Speaker 12: this week. If if there is a chance and you're
Speaker 12: not one hundred percent, then it is you take away.
Speaker 12: I appreciate you. I appreciate you as a competitor wanting
Speaker 12: to be back out here for your teammates. But it's
Speaker 12: not smart medically, then that conversation has to be had.
Speaker 12: But if it's a pain tolerance thing and imaging wise,
Speaker 12: he's clear to go, then I think you go.
Speaker 2: Is there some culpability with Zach tenn or going, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe he's ninety percent and my job's on the line.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, And I think that's a fair part about this.
Speaker 12: I mean this is which again is why I was
Speaker 12: taking back a little bit. Hearing Zach with Tom today
Speaker 12: doesn't sound like a coach seven, doesn't sound like a
Speaker 12: coach that doesn't have Jamar Chase. Sounds like a coach
Speaker 12: that feels pretty good, which tells me he feels good
Speaker 12: about where his quarterback is. But yes, there is a
Speaker 12: fine line, and it's where you have to put the
Speaker 12: trust in your coach and your training staff to say yes,
Speaker 12: we do have the best interest in our player in mind,
Speaker 12: because I'm not putting Joe in there. If I have
Speaker 12: to game plan around an injury, you can't do that.
Speaker 12: If you can keep the same game plan, then he plays.
Speaker 2: This is further out than Joe Burro playing this weekend
Speaker 2: Tony Pike. But let's say Joe Burrow plays, and let's
Speaker 2: say okay, places he's good for the rest of the
Speaker 2: season and they continue to lose.
Speaker 3: Is that it for Zach to Ed or Duke Tobin?
Speaker 3: Does that?
Speaker 2: Then turn that pressure around and go, well, you got
Speaker 2: QB one back, No more excuses. You still can't win
Speaker 2: football games, you still can't tackle, you can still can't block,
Speaker 2: you still can't make, you get your assignments correct?
Speaker 3: What then?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 12: Then you're you're You're pushed against the alternate window. I
Speaker 12: always thought this was a different conversation if this team
Speaker 12: is mathematically eliminated, And if it is, then is there
Speaker 12: harm in Joe Burrow playing two more times and then
Speaker 12: shutting him down for the rest of the year, because
Speaker 12: ultimately what he needs is more reps. But again, I
Speaker 12: go back, I go back to the training staff, and
Speaker 12: I was I was lucky with my staff at UC
Speaker 12: that those guys I trusted Bob Manjeen, I trusted Angelo
Speaker 12: Colisimo because at the end of the day, I knew
Speaker 12: that they wanted to win, but the core of everything
Speaker 12: they were about was having my best interest in mind.
Speaker 12: And that's what I continue to go back to With
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow, I don't think that a trainer would say,
Speaker 12: go practice if there was any shot of this not
Speaker 12: being okay. If it's the divisional playoffs, if you're leading
Speaker 12: in or to must win to get into the playoffs,
Speaker 12: then maybe you roll the dice a little bit, okay.
Speaker 12: But the experiences I've had, I fully trust that that
Speaker 12: a trainer and trainers I have would would would not
Speaker 12: put your best interest to to harm just to get
Speaker 12: you back out at you.
Speaker 2: All right, he's Tony Pike and right now you're going
Speaker 2: he sounds like he's going to play football on Sunday.
Speaker 3: That would be Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Uh, that would be incredible considering what he's been through
Speaker 2: in such a short period of time. And uh, some
Speaker 2: time time, what time tomorrow you think they make the announcement.
Speaker 12: Uh, I believe they will practice. It's a home game,
Speaker 12: so they'll practice probably early afternoon, and then once practice
Speaker 12: wraps up, you'll get that report from Zach se.
Speaker 2: Time in the afternoon. We expect to hear that Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow would play on Sunday.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you would. You would at least here he's going
Speaker 12: to be active, and I think that to me is
Speaker 12: a foregone conclusion. You know, you have the full participant
Speaker 12: and you have limited doubtful. You know, so much is
Speaker 12: made about Wednesday and Thursday.
Speaker 2: When the news about releasing Jake Browning happened first, you
Speaker 2: would think, so it's because of a Browning.
Speaker 12: Joe, You're about forty percent, but we're gonna need you
Speaker 12: to take every team rep this week while Flo's not
Speaker 12: in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would worry me.
Speaker 2: Tony Pike and Austin Elmore today at noon on ESPN
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty covering this up and down. Appreciate your brother.
Speaker 2: Thanks again, the Hall of Famer. Tony Pike on seven
Speaker 2: hundred W Scott Sloan Show, seven hundred WLW. Here we go,
Speaker 2: So Thursday mornings, you're bringing our our doctor friend here,
Speaker 2: the er doctor. Uh he is a doctor, Sanja SHAEFERCERMANI
Speaker 2: he is we talk about healtha talk food we talk fitness. Uh,
Speaker 2: and he is right now crushing an energy drink because
Speaker 2: he just got off a shift.
Speaker 13: So hey, don't judge me, don't judge me, but yes, like, oh,
Speaker 13: that's I.
Speaker 2: Was just talking to someone yesterday who is in the
Speaker 2: medical field and drinks eight monsters a.
Speaker 3: Day and would not anyway. Cold turkey. That's he's saying,
Speaker 3: cold turkey.
Speaker 13: How's he feeling?
Speaker 2: He says, fine, Like, yeah, I was. I was a
Speaker 2: no headache, no no shakes. You go through the DTS what, Nope,
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 13: Just have to take a one week nap. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 13: I guess fine.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do that at all. So
Speaker 2: before you get in this, I'm gonna put you on
Speaker 2: the spot. Here'm gonna con audible because we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about how not to die in Thanksgiving, the Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow thing with the turf toe and you knowing a
Speaker 2: little bit about these things and injuries, and like, is
Speaker 2: it surprise to you he can come back this fast?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 13: It it is? But I also have my concerns about,
Speaker 13: you know, how well he's going to bounce back. It always,
Speaker 13: you know, the feat We we underestimate how much. We
Speaker 13: need them, even the smallest little things, as we all
Speaker 13: learned through this turf so thing. And so was I
Speaker 13: a little surprised. Yes, am I looking forward to seeing
Speaker 13: him back, Yes.
Speaker 3: Do I do.
Speaker 13: I hope the best for him, yes, but we'll see
Speaker 13: how you know, I'm definitely not an orthopic surgeon. I
Speaker 13: see these things on the front end. But yeah, foot
Speaker 13: injuries are tough.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 13: I had an ankle injury. I know you had a
Speaker 13: leg injury, and yep, they take they take a while,
Speaker 13: so he won't be one hundred percent, but hopefully he's
Speaker 13: got enough and it'll hold up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't think of that too, like I've
Speaker 2: heard if you, for example, if you have your your
Speaker 2: pinky toe, if that, if you lose that, it's difficult
Speaker 2: to walk right. That's just a little you're like, there's
Speaker 2: no way, but it's true.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you figure you don't need that. Stupid at the end,
Speaker 13: but it's it's more important than we think. And it's
Speaker 13: just it's you know, our balance and everything, just sensation
Speaker 13: and knowing where we are. It's all very important in
Speaker 13: ways we don't even recognize until, of course it's gone.
Speaker 2: If you had to choose one to lose. Pinky toe,
Speaker 2: pinky finger, pinky toe for sure, Oh to toe.
Speaker 13: Okay, my feet are already messed up, like you might
Speaker 13: as well just go further. I need these little these
Speaker 13: little piggies on my hands.
Speaker 2: Fantastic, fantastic, all right, he's got his monster and I
Speaker 2: just trip by the way yesterday and studio. I had
Speaker 2: our friends from Dorothy Lane Market and Mason and they
Speaker 2: brought a bunch of food. And I'm a pecan pie guy.
Speaker 2: You're a peacan by I'm telling you, the best peacan
Speaker 2: pie I've ever had Dorothy Lean Market.
Speaker 4: Check it.
Speaker 3: I got to do it.
Speaker 13: I've only been once to the new location, but I
Speaker 13: have to go.
Speaker 2: Back then by like I live down there with and
Speaker 2: it's like every time I go by, there's no parking spots.
Speaker 2: So I'll come back later and then there's again no
Speaker 2: parking spots. Just why because everything's good there. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it's phenomenal. Just don't make pecan pie yourself. That was
Speaker 2: my mistake.
Speaker 13: Knowing what is inside of pecan pie ruined it for
Speaker 13: the rest of my life. But I just choose to
Speaker 13: ignore it.
Speaker 2: The reason I love having sign Jaane is because he's
Speaker 2: a doctor, but you know he's we talk about fitness
Speaker 2: and health and exercise and all these things. What it
Speaker 2: all comes together. And normally the reason I love you
Speaker 2: is because you're not Tom Brady. Do you like if
Speaker 2: you eat carbohydrates, you're drinking energy drinks, you have pecan pie,
Speaker 2: you you don't just eat avocados?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 13: Oh no, It's all about balance and I usually tip
Speaker 13: the wrong way with balance.
Speaker 3: But you know that's why we go to the gym,
Speaker 3: right right? All right? Yeah, a little restraint. Do you
Speaker 3: lose your mind on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 13: Uh? Lose my mind?
Speaker 3: How well do you eat yourself in a food coma?
Speaker 13: Ah? It is my favorite haul. I have to do it.
Speaker 13: And it's it's not like turkey is just turkey is there,
Speaker 13: but it's like the vehicle to have the excuse to
Speaker 13: eat all the sides. And so yeah, I eat myself
Speaker 13: usually kind of silly, but it's it's stuffing for me
Speaker 13: like that is my is. My one weakness is well dressing.
Speaker 13: Now I've learned the difference between the two.
Speaker 3: It's dressing. Yeah, dressing, that's a gravy on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the starches are I try to avoid carb but
Speaker 2: I mean carbs are really the cornerstone you talk about Trinky,
Speaker 2: You're right. Carbohydrates is what drive Thanksgiving. It exactly, that's
Speaker 2: what we're there. So why do we why do we
Speaker 2: pass out? Because you hear that, Well, let's trip to
Speaker 2: fan in the in the Turkey it makes you sleepy.
Speaker 2: But it's it's the carbs, isn't it.
Speaker 13: It is the carbs. So yeah, that's a it's a
Speaker 13: common misconception. We all blame the trip to fan, which
Speaker 13: has a part, but actually, you know, chicken and beef
Speaker 13: has as much trip to fan as Turkey does. So, uh,
Speaker 13: trip to Fan gets a bad rap as far as
Speaker 13: Thanksgiving goes. But what happens is we have these big
Speaker 13: meals and the insulin spikes because we eat so much carb. Uh,
Speaker 13: and then the trip to Fan has a chance then
Speaker 13: to work on our brain. So yes, there's a place there.
Speaker 13: But it's not that Turkey's bringing it. It's the it's
Speaker 13: the size that are bringing it. Uh, with the with
Speaker 13: all the carbs, and then your insulin allows.
Speaker 2: Everything to gohare and you had a couple of slices
Speaker 2: of pecan pie on top of that, and it's over.
Speaker 3: Game, all done. Yes see on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Can you do you see people in the er that
Speaker 2: eat so much they show up? And what does that
Speaker 2: look like? Can you do the food coma and you
Speaker 2: actually have to be transported?
Speaker 13: Yes, very much so, and you know you so there's
Speaker 13: a there's a general lull through the day as far
Speaker 13: as Thanksgiving goes. I think the stats are like twenty
Speaker 13: five percent less patients on Thanksgiving Day. But you know,
Speaker 13: when the meals are ending, it's it's six or seven o'clock,
Speaker 13: and you'll see the spike of people that come in,
Speaker 13: and it's usually with either chest pain or like really
Speaker 13: bad bloating. And most of the time, most of the
Speaker 13: time it's just because they over ate, right, But I
Speaker 13: you know, I sympathize with that man, like I've done
Speaker 13: it to myself for sure, Okay, And so yeah, some
Speaker 13: sometimes patients do come in purely because they eat too much,
Speaker 13: and I love them for it.
Speaker 3: Can you eat yourself into an unstable heart rhythm?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 13: So yes, So you could eat yourself to a point
Speaker 13: where you've stressed your body so much that it can
Speaker 13: cause a mind or heart attack and then cause and
Speaker 13: arrhythmia from that. So yes, And if you have you know,
Speaker 13: six ten ten monster energy drinks while having your turkey,
Speaker 13: you can also go into an unstable heart rhythm. But
Speaker 13: the interesting part is that the rate of heart attacks
Speaker 13: actually goes up on Thanksgiving Day, which is interesting because
Speaker 13: it's family drive you crazy. It is a big part
Speaker 13: of its Sorry mom, if you're listening, but like, yeah,
Speaker 13: family stress us up right right, which increases our cortisol,
Speaker 13: which increases all the other things and can cause spasm
Speaker 13: of the arteries to the heart and you know, lead
Speaker 13: to heart attacks sometimes. So it's this, it's the stress
Speaker 13: for one. It's also the massive you know meal that
Speaker 13: we have, which also strains our body. There's several things
Speaker 13: that can go into increase in heart attacks. But yes,
Speaker 13: family and stress is part of it.
Speaker 2: At alcohol, you got all sorts of problems in there.
Speaker 2: And is that typically what you see presenting the hor
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving day after?
Speaker 3: It's going to be art related issues initially.
Speaker 13: Yeah, So Thursday sometimes for friday's your your Black Friday
Speaker 13: incidents and those can vary how they look.
Speaker 3: But related injured or shopping related injuries.
Speaker 13: Yes, Okay, so you're gonna see a lot of things
Speaker 13: from Black Friday, but usually so Thursday you're going to
Speaker 13: see your early afternoon wave of your injuries. So like
Speaker 13: cooking injuries because a lot of people are getting into
Speaker 13: the kitchen that usually aren't there or trying to cook
Speaker 13: for four thousand people, and so they're less careful. Burns lacerations, yes, again,
Speaker 13: so burns we see more from oil frying, so be careful.
Speaker 13: I'd advise you probably not to oil frier. Turkey problem
Speaker 13: being that water hitting the oil creates big explosions sometimes,
Speaker 13: so you want your turkey to be really dry and
Speaker 13: free of ice, so completely thought and dry before putting
Speaker 13: on the oil.
Speaker 3: But overall, how do you make.
Speaker 2: Your turkey oven? Yeah, I just school may get a
Speaker 2: small one smoke at time to time.
Speaker 13: But yeah, yeah, the oil thing, I had it once
Speaker 13: and I was like, I mean, I guess the idea
Speaker 13: is cool, but it just doesn't taste any day.
Speaker 2: I because you know, if you want to do it
Speaker 2: and get a bunch of buddies together and then go
Speaker 2: in on the oil and the cooking. So because it's
Speaker 2: such a pain in the ass to just do it,
Speaker 2: and it takes like forty five minutes, you know it's done,
Speaker 2: but you got all oil left over and stuff.
Speaker 3: You know what, do you do it right? Make a
Speaker 3: couple of two three turkeys and you're good, all.
Speaker 2: Right, So there's that element too, and I think you
Speaker 2: know again it's Sanjay cherv Primani and studio this morning
Speaker 2: are our eur physician and health guy talking about how
Speaker 2: not to die in Thanksgiving, which is very important.
Speaker 3: Choke. You can see a lot of choking in the hour.
Speaker 2: Is it over by the time, Yeah, not too much,
Speaker 2: I think in your throat something.
Speaker 13: I mean, Fortunately, the turkey bones are pretty big, so
Speaker 13: we don't see too much of that. We do see again, Uh,
Speaker 13: knife injuries in the kitchen, that's a big thing on
Speaker 13: Thanksgiving Day. Mandolin slicers are my enemy because you can
Speaker 13: imagine with those things if you don't know what they are,
Speaker 13: they're multiple blades in a row, so they just cause
Speaker 13: these weird patterns of injury where you can't really bring
Speaker 13: the wound back together, so you're it's line after line
Speaker 13: or the fingertip just goes. So be careful with your mandolins,
Speaker 13: keep your knife sharp, you ale minimize.
Speaker 2: I've got one use al holder. Don't try to get
Speaker 2: all that potato.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we see potatoes stream all the time.
Speaker 13: It's always the potato because you glance off of it
Speaker 13: with your dull blades, So keep them, keep them sharp
Speaker 13: through it.
Speaker 3: One percent, one hundred percent. What about food poisoning.
Speaker 13: Big big, So we usually see the food poison income
Speaker 13: later on, at least, you know, a day or two afterwards.
Speaker 13: But it's not impossible. So that's a double negative. It's
Speaker 13: it's possible to get food poison on the day of.
Speaker 13: So you want to make sure you're cooking your turkey.
Speaker 13: That's going to be your biggest culprit. Cook it well.
Speaker 13: You want it to get a one hundred and sixty
Speaker 13: five degrees internally, so check that thing because there there's
Speaker 13: so variable because your birds so big. So if you're
Speaker 13: making a turkey, you know, get it to one sixty five.
Speaker 13: But then you know, you leave that bird out for
Speaker 13: a couple hours and bacteria starts growing inside of it too,
Speaker 13: So be careful even just letting it sit out on
Speaker 13: the counter for a couple hours and then going in
Speaker 13: for a little bit more. Yes, try to warm that
Speaker 13: up before you eat it again, because once you get
Speaker 13: down to like one hundred and forty degrees, that bacteria
Speaker 13: starts growing and gotcha gotcha, Okay, good, then that's important.
Speaker 3: Sides, you have to worry about that as much, less.
Speaker 13: So unless there's meats in them or creams. So dairy
Speaker 13: stuff will carry stuff, and that's that's going to be
Speaker 13: the food poisoning that hits you fast, so you'll know
Speaker 13: if you have that. But usually the food poisoning from
Speaker 13: you know, turkey and stuff, that's going to take a
Speaker 13: while to hate you. And so we usually see a
Speaker 13: bump over the weekend Saturday, Sunday, Monday of the food poisoning,
Speaker 13: both from delayed presentations, from eating the food on that day,
Speaker 13: or eating leftovers and not warming them up, or just
Speaker 13: leftovers gone bad.
Speaker 3: How long can that shellfish be out? The shrimp? The shrimp.
Speaker 13: It as long as there was refrigerated. Well, I would
Speaker 13: say probably, you know, a couple hours is what you're
Speaker 13: looking at.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's as you have to have an
Speaker 2: ice usually that goes pretty fast. But all right, do
Speaker 2: I know it's food poisoning not something else?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: Good question.
Speaker 13: It's it's oftentimes hard for us to know too. But
Speaker 13: usually food poisoning is going to have stuff coming up,
Speaker 13: both up and down. It may start with vomiting, but
Speaker 13: then you get it from the from the rear as well,
Speaker 13: so oftentimes that'll be it. But things to look out
Speaker 13: for would be stuff like fever, some abdominal pain, blood
Speaker 13: in your poop, and just overall not feeling good. But
Speaker 13: even food poisoning alone can throw us for a loop.
Speaker 13: So if you're feeling crappy and you think this is
Speaker 13: just food poisoning, but if you're still feeling bad, a
Speaker 13: lot of fluid. Little fluid can do a lot of good,
Speaker 13: So it's always worth it if you're feeling poorly to
Speaker 13: get checked out.
Speaker 2: Okay, but I mean you imagine it home, if you've
Speaker 2: realized that it's probably food poisoning because everyone else is
Speaker 2: coming down with it, it's like all you could do
Speaker 2: is hydrate and rest and.
Speaker 13: Point at the person who made that dish because they clearly.
Speaker 3: They killed you. Yeah this point too, so well with
Speaker 3: all the dishes. You don't know who is a culprit
Speaker 3: at that point, but it's true. Typically just blame the turkey.
Speaker 3: I always blame that.
Speaker 2: I blame that. It's always a chef's fault. So anyway,
Speaker 2: he is a Sonja Schevcrimani. He is a er physician.
Speaker 2: Also he's our fitness guy here and a health guy
Speaker 2: in the Scott Slane Show on seven hundred WLW Everything
Speaker 2: you need to know about Thanksgiving and how not to
Speaker 2: kill yourself. We kind of did this, I know with
Speaker 2: Halloween too, is like how do I prevent going to
Speaker 2: the er and kids running and you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But this one's a little more complex because everyone's getting together.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating the stress element along with Thanksgiving, the food
Speaker 2: and the stress together. You see a lot of people
Speaker 2: with heart arrhythmia, sometimes heart attacks.
Speaker 13: Even we see the heart stuff and now you know,
Speaker 13: I don't know if the viruses have figured it out,
Speaker 13: but they're ramping up just in time for families to
Speaker 13: be close together in a tight environment. So I worked
Speaker 13: a shift yesterday for only seven hours and I saw
Speaker 13: at least fifteen people with like head colds. So it's
Speaker 13: coming around, and you know, it was everything. Were starting
Speaker 13: to see flu yet started to see a little bit
Speaker 13: of flu. Actually seeing a bigger spike in COVID recently.
Speaker 13: No one terribly sick sick from it, but certainly not
Speaker 13: feeling great. Uh So we're seeing just a kind of
Speaker 13: smattering of everything is COVID.
Speaker 2: Now that we're five years past this, are we say,
Speaker 2: is it's starting to be less severe, like less life
Speaker 2: threatening overall.
Speaker 13: Yes, I mean that first couple of years we were
Speaker 13: expecting patients not to make it a lot of the time.
Speaker 13: We're still seeing that on occasion, but yes, it's it's
Speaker 13: become milder as far as its presentation overall. But you know,
Speaker 13: if you're elderly, if you're you know, if your health
Speaker 13: immune system isn't very good, there's a good chance that
Speaker 13: it is gonna it could cause some serious problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're seeing RSV now too at the end
Speaker 2: of the health department. I'll probably have them on next week,
Speaker 2: could talk about this. That's a big one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 13: RSV is is big, especially young and old, especially patients
Speaker 13: with lung disease too. It can really cause asthma to
Speaker 13: be severe and cause you know, I saw a couple
Speaker 13: of cases last year of RSV causing respiratory failures. So yeah,
Speaker 13: it's another one to watch out for. Just you know,
Speaker 13: when it comes to food prep and being around your family,
Speaker 13: just make sure you're washing your hands often and being careful.
Speaker 2: All right, Sonja, good to see you man. Have a
Speaker 2: great Thanksgiving. Always appreciate coming on Thursdays the best. Enjoy
Speaker 2: about you too. I got a time out in and
Speaker 2: more to follow here at eleven oh six on the
Speaker 2: show on seven hundred ww He is a local polster,
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton. You hear about this is new numbers coming out,
Speaker 2: and again it's just some new numbers. But if you
Speaker 2: took it the aggregate, looked at the average here, it's
Speaker 2: pretty frightening if you're a Republican. Just how wonderwater the
Speaker 2: party is, particularly the president right now? Can you reverse
Speaker 2: course before midterms? That's the big question. We'll see what's
Speaker 2: inside the numbers. With Kevin just ahead on the Home
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Speaker 1: Don't want to be in a Mafican idiot, Scott flowing
Speaker 1: back on seven hundred w WELW.
Speaker 2: The last time Democrats on numbers as good was twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: So what eight years ago go before they will up
Speaker 2: the Republicans in the twenty eighteen midterm got like what
Speaker 2: forty forty one seats in the House. And this is
Speaker 2: coming off news and latest polling here with President Trump
Speaker 2: becoming increasingly popular, unpipolar, I should say, his approval rating
Speaker 2: is dipping into the thirties right now. And you know,
Speaker 2: you look at the Democrats and then maybe the wind
Speaker 2: in their sail right now, but is it sustainable? And
Speaker 2: if you're a Republican too, how do you look at
Speaker 2: this and go, maybe this guy isn't falling, But at
Speaker 2: the same time, how do you reverse course before the
Speaker 2: midterms next year? On that's Kevin Burtney's a pollster with
Speaker 2: Crosstown Consulting right in northern Kentucky. His candidates went six
Speaker 2: for six on election Day Tuesday. Kevin, welcome back.
Speaker 14: Hause, life pretty good, Scott, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the pulling in again, it's one poll, but
Speaker 2: I'm looking at I tend to look at the aggregate
Speaker 2: polling and come up with an average of the averages
Speaker 2: fifty five percent of voters at elect a Democratic candidate
Speaker 2: right now compared to forty one percent it out for
Speaker 2: Republican And that's a generic ballot. Obviously, we'll get into
Speaker 2: why that's important or not important a second, but fourteen
Speaker 2: point lead right now. And we saw this last since
Speaker 2: November twenty seventeen in the mid term explosion by Democrats
Speaker 2: at this point. And this is despite the fact that
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer, Senate minority leader, just shut the government down,
Speaker 2: a backfire on him terribly. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: even with that, they're moving forward here. Kevin Trump's job
Speaker 2: approval rating is I think twelve points underwater, twelve to
Speaker 2: fourteen depending on the poll of the job six and
Speaker 2: ten believe America is on the wrong track. Is that
Speaker 2: overcomeable in the next year?
Speaker 14: I mean Trump, I think we need to look that
Speaker 14: Trump's only won two elections when there were women on
Speaker 14: the ballot. Every other time he has lost. You know,
Speaker 14: Trump had the benefit of, frankly, being the backup quarterback.
Speaker 4: Where you're the most popular.
Speaker 14: Person in town, and when they when you get thrust
Speaker 14: it in into the spot, people realized why you were
Speaker 14: the backup. He's bleeding numbers.
Speaker 3: You're talking, I.
Speaker 14: Got it exactly, like yeah in Perio if that sounds great,
Speaker 14: And then you're like, oh, well, that's why he is
Speaker 14: bleeding support and independence.
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 14: Independents are breaking sixty one of them, twenty eight percent
Speaker 14: of Republicans. And we've talked about this before. Those are
Speaker 14: the people who decide the election. And then going back
Speaker 14: a year ago, Harrison only won the Hispanic vote by
Speaker 14: plus two. Donald Trump has dropped forty four points in
Speaker 14: the last year in the Hispanic community.
Speaker 4: Now, listen, we don't.
Speaker 14: Know how they're going to redraw all of these house
Speaker 14: districts because both sides are being idiot, So we don't
Speaker 14: know the total numbers that's going to get lost. But
Speaker 14: Americans see that prices aren't going down, period, and it's
Speaker 14: the economy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's always the economy, stupid, right, How
Speaker 2: accurate is that?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 2: You know I talked about generic bill to generic ball let,
Speaker 2: they're up fourteen points, okay, but versus actual outcomes, how
Speaker 2: predictive is plus fourteen plus twelve whatever? It is twelve
Speaker 2: months out from the twenty twenty six midterms.
Speaker 14: So it's always important to remember when you see the
Speaker 14: generic ballot, just how the maps are and everything Democrats
Speaker 14: has to be up about plus that then before it
Speaker 14: really makes a difference. So that's where you should always
Speaker 14: look at. You know, there's still a year away. Like,
Speaker 14: you know, if he passes out two thousand dollars checks,
Speaker 14: does that shrink it? Probably yes.
Speaker 4: But we're also going.
Speaker 14: To get into the holiday season, so I predict that
Speaker 14: his numbers are going to drop a little bit even
Speaker 14: more because people are going to be trying to pay
Speaker 14: for you know, Christmas, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 14: Is that actually really quite Because in his first term,
Speaker 14: people loved what he did in the economy, hated what
Speaker 14: he did in foreign affairs. It's the exact opposite this time,
Speaker 14: right right.
Speaker 2: And I think Marjorie Taylor Green with his you know,
Speaker 2: the breakup between mom and dad, so to speak, and
Speaker 2: I think she scored some really good points with us
Speaker 2: and saying, listen, you know you're entertaining Saudi's and the
Speaker 2: White House, and you're on these trips abroad, and what
Speaker 2: about the economy. It's supposed to you know, make America
Speaker 2: great again and focus only on America, and you're not
Speaker 2: doing that. So even with core Trump supporters, that's starting
Speaker 2: to fall out, that's eating away and talking about this
Speaker 2: huge gap ortoe with a polling.
Speaker 14: You know, people see that everyone is suffering, and you know,
Speaker 14: I kind of did this yesterday. How many years do
Speaker 14: you think Steph Curry would have to play to match
Speaker 14: how much Elon Musk is worth.
Speaker 2: That's a really interesting question. Three hundred thousand years, eight
Speaker 2: and two hundred years, eight thousand years.
Speaker 14: I was close, so always put that into his perspective,
Speaker 14: that that's how rich. And you know, I think people
Speaker 14: are finally getting to the point like, look and like billionaires,
Speaker 14: that's fine, but now we're talking about trillionaires and we
Speaker 14: have people who can't afford bills and everything. At a
Speaker 14: certain point we need to turn around and look, right,
Speaker 14: you know, we're the greatest country in the world, and
Speaker 14: we have so many people living paycheck to headshacks. It's
Speaker 14: a systematic breakdown on all fronts. And you know we're
Speaker 14: giving forty billion dollars Argentina.
Speaker 3: Was that right, right? And I think it was core.
Speaker 2: Of course, A port is like looking at that, going, well,
Speaker 2: what about what about me? What about you know, all
Speaker 2: these things are going to do for me? And I see,
Speaker 2: you know, the tariffs and stuff, it's really not coming home.
Speaker 2: I mean, now we're subsidizing farmers, which is you know
Speaker 2: what we're we just shut the government down over which
Speaker 2: was more subsidy.
Speaker 3: I guess it's you know, if the subsidies.
Speaker 2: For someone on your team, it's not a subsidy somehow,
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton, the thirty three point Democratic advantage independent voters
Speaker 2: is not a gap, it's a chasm. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: a canyon. It's bottom of the Grand Canyon. Walk us through.
Speaker 2: What would cause independence to break this heart against the party.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the economy, but there's got to be more
Speaker 2: to it than that exactly.
Speaker 14: And then the whole immigration stance, you know, it turned
Speaker 14: out as a very favorable thing for Trump. I don't
Speaker 14: know any reasonable person who would be like, you know,
Speaker 14: if they were here illegally, they've come in a felony. Yeah,
Speaker 14: they need to get the heck out of the country.
Speaker 14: Everyone agrees on that. When you are taking kids who
Speaker 14: are seventeen years old who came here, I just in America.
Speaker 14: You're seeing this, and I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 14: what's happening in North Carolina. They had thirty thousand students
Speaker 14: walk out. And North Carolina is not California, it is
Speaker 14: not New York, it's not Illinois. So when you're starting
Speaker 14: to see swings to be like, hey, guys, come on,
Speaker 14: this is this is a little much between that factor
Speaker 14: and the economy. People are just tired. You know, we
Speaker 14: lived this eight years ago. That people are like, we
Speaker 14: just go listen, sweepy. Joe was sleepy for a reason.
Speaker 14: You know, he was born, he didn't do much. And
Speaker 14: it's the exact opposite of Trump, where every day, every day, uh,
Speaker 14: it's just something new.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Epstein files on top of that, fighting this whole
Speaker 2: thing and then coming out on saying fine, I saw it.
Speaker 3: I allegedly signed it yesterday.
Speaker 2: But you know, we're also skeptical, going, okay, well, how
Speaker 2: much redaction is going to occur here? And are you
Speaker 2: just going to cross up the names of Republicans and
Speaker 2: leave Democrats out hanging. Someone said that you don't want
Speaker 2: to go arrest Bill and Hillary. It's a little presumptuous
Speaker 2: at this point, considering that Bill wasn't even that that
Speaker 2: bubble wasn't the same bubble ligedly that was.
Speaker 14: Well, And the bigger thing I'm looking at at the
Speaker 14: Epstein is the break from the Republicans. The dam was breaking,
Speaker 14: and for you know, Donald Trump has had the pulse
Speaker 14: on the Republican Party for the last decade, decade and
Speaker 14: a half. When it came to the Epstein file, he
Speaker 14: was dead wrong.
Speaker 4: And is this.
Speaker 14: You know, is this the lame duck president to see
Speaker 14: that we're starting to see or is this a one
Speaker 14: off the Epstein file. They misplayed this so poorly that,
Speaker 14: you know, do they ever recover from this? And with
Speaker 14: the reaction and everything, you've already thowed the seeds of
Speaker 14: doubt into everyone. They needed to fire someone immediately when
Speaker 14: the public.
Speaker 4: Backlash happened right away. Yeah, I mean, it was.
Speaker 14: Clear to see that this wasn't going away. So you
Speaker 14: add in, you know, Epstein, the economy, the ice rays.
Speaker 14: I don't see a way coming back from it unless
Speaker 14: magically all the care iff money everyone starts getting two
Speaker 14: thousand dollars checks every month.
Speaker 2: Right right, But even then that's going to still cause
Speaker 2: people like me to cringe because that's supposed to be
Speaker 2: paying the deficit down. That was the important point of
Speaker 2: this thing. And isn't that just another subsidy? So if
Speaker 2: you're against the ACA subsidies, how could you be for
Speaker 2: this subsidy?
Speaker 3: And that's what it is.
Speaker 2: He's Kevin Burton Upholster with Crosstown Consulting in Cincinnati and
Speaker 2: northern Kentucky and talking about the disturbing numbers who are Republican.
Speaker 2: And this is just I don't think it's shocking, but
Speaker 2: I think the gap is shocking. That Trump is underwater significantly,
Speaker 2: his ratings in the thirties right now, but on a
Speaker 2: generic ballot, a Democrat would win handily right now if
Speaker 2: your Democrats be Republican. If you're talking about the party,
Speaker 2: Democrats are up fifty five right now, and that number
Speaker 2: continues to grow every week. And again I'm just looking
Speaker 2: at the aggregate's not the latest, and it's if you're
Speaker 2: a Republican, you must be concerned right now. And this
Speaker 2: is even with Chuck Schumer doing we did to shut
Speaker 2: the government down, and you know, even and you know,
Speaker 2: to be fair, it's I look at the alternative here,
Speaker 2: and I mean, look what's happened in New York City
Speaker 2: with Mondami and the move towards socialism because that party
Speaker 2: is struggling. They're talking about Hakeem Jefferies getting, you know,
Speaker 2: being shown the Dora because he is a you know,
Speaker 2: part of the establishment, and the new way for the
Speaker 2: left is progressivism and specifically socialism. And now you're having
Speaker 2: all these candidates that are going to try to repeat
Speaker 2: with MANDAMMI did across the country. That's not good for
Speaker 2: the establishment Democrats. Not like they don't have problems either.
Speaker 14: Well, and this is no different than what we saw
Speaker 14: fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4: With the Tea Party movement.
Speaker 14: You know, for what is it Newton's third law? For
Speaker 14: every action there's an equal for opposite reaction. And you're
Speaker 14: seeing this. You know, Nancy Pelosi has said that she's
Speaker 14: no longer running. Democrats are, and it's no different than
Speaker 14: what we saw with the Republicans. You know, they're tired
Speaker 14: of the status quo. They're not happy there, and that's
Speaker 14: why you're seeing all of these you know, Nazylo, the
Speaker 14: Dick Durbin all exiting. I mean, how King Jeffrey is
Speaker 14: getting a primary opponent now, I mean Chuck Shimmer would
Speaker 14: would any of us be shocked?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 14: The thing about Mandannie is he's one of one. I
Speaker 14: don't care who you are. He has Aura riz or
Speaker 14: whatever the kid can call it.
Speaker 4: The day.
Speaker 14: He is one of one. You know, it's like how
Speaker 14: Trump or Obama that like you you can't recreate it,
Speaker 14: you know, like you just sure you can't.
Speaker 3: But you had people who copy.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many people ran like, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: here's a picture of me with Trump and I'm a
Speaker 2: Trump conservative Magan. A lot of people ran in one
Speaker 2: office on that, and certainly they're pale in comparison to
Speaker 2: the genuine article. I think the same is probably true
Speaker 2: with Mandami, although he's just Mayor of New York right now.
Speaker 2: But you wonder in the next four to eight years,
Speaker 2: what happens if the political wins don't change.
Speaker 3: Is that fair?
Speaker 14: And I think we talked about the really early on
Speaker 14: when you asked me about AOC and I said, you know,
Speaker 14: if history repeats itself, we would have the most progressive
Speaker 14: president since FDR. And it's looking that way. Who the
Speaker 14: Democrats will nominate. You know, it's counterintuitive because everyone's like, well,
Speaker 14: they should run to the middle, they should run to
Speaker 14: the middle. That's exactly what we were saying about Republicans
Speaker 14: after the loss of Mitt Romney. But the one thing
Speaker 14: that Donald Trump has brought is if you can get
Speaker 14: your supporters out, it frankly doesn't matter about the other side.
Speaker 14: So if you can turn out your base, and we
Speaker 14: saw this with Mindannie, there's no other way. It's the
Speaker 14: easiest way to win an election. And that's the one
Speaker 14: thing Donald Trump has tapped into that He's shown kind
Speaker 14: of politics that it's not really crossing over, it's just
Speaker 14: getting every last person in the world who believes in you,
Speaker 14: and just getting them to the polls.
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton, pollster on the show this morning and talking
Speaker 2: about the startling poll if you're a Republican that Trump
Speaker 2: is underwater and the parties underwater for that matter, right
Speaker 2: now and headed towards midterms in less than a year,
Speaker 2: which politically is not much time at all. This could
Speaker 2: be the biggest win for Democrats since twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: And it's to scare you if you are on the
Speaker 2: right or right leaning of the case. May be because
Speaker 2: it's starting to unravel here and the promises made have
Speaker 2: not been promises kept to this point on many things,
Speaker 2: and yet on others there's a lot of success there.
Speaker 2: It doesn't get the credit for. I think also, are
Speaker 2: we seeing a generational shift here with voters that the
Speaker 2: young people actually, I mean Madonmee got young people to
Speaker 2: turn out to vote. Now, New York City's outliers, not
Speaker 2: Cincinnati or Dayton or Louisville or Indianapolis. But nonetheless, I
Speaker 2: think you got to pay attention to this. I think
Speaker 2: it's also changed too that you know, I keep hearing
Speaker 2: about from conservatives about how it's the media's fault.
Speaker 3: The media, the media.
Speaker 2: The only people consuming media and are talking about ABC,
Speaker 2: NBCCBS and Fox largely are very very old people. And
Speaker 2: then old people love cable news. Younger voters don't care
Speaker 2: about any of that stuff. So say this is all
Speaker 2: in the media twisting things. The people who are voting
Speaker 2: are the people who got Mondanian office, and the young
Speaker 2: voters are talking about here are getting their news from
Speaker 2: social media and and very defsive and by the way,
Speaker 2: in partisan partisan influencers. So you know, that whole model
Speaker 2: is it's it's kind of tired to blame everything on
Speaker 2: the media.
Speaker 14: I legacy media honestly is kind of irrelevant. I mean
Speaker 14: it is because you say, to your point, it's one
Speaker 14: old people, sorry, old people, some one to watch yeh
Speaker 14: watch TV. Well, you're not going to change your mind.
Speaker 14: You've already made up your mind. Statistically speaking, if you
Speaker 14: have voted one way for the last seven elections, you're
Speaker 14: going to vote the same way when Donnie. Just like
Speaker 14: how Trump tapped into Twitter, he tapped in TikTok. And
Speaker 14: that's to be really fascinating to see because every election
Speaker 14: there's a new technology.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 14: Obama was the first to tap into YouTube, the first
Speaker 14: to tap into Facebook. Trump was the first to tappen
Speaker 14: to Twitter, TikTok. You know, it's gonna be really interesting
Speaker 14: to see this next election. Who goes quote unquote viral.
Speaker 14: Who can really get the the young vote, because you know,
Speaker 14: the young vote is always the promise of tomorrow that
Speaker 14: when you're trying to win an election, you think you
Speaker 14: know you're gonna get them. But it's also a fool's gold.
Speaker 14: You know, for every campaign that wins, there's two campaigns that.
Speaker 4: Bet everything on the young vote.
Speaker 14: Yep, So always be cautious about the young vote.
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton, Pollster, Crossdown Consulting. Always appreciate the fabulous insight
Speaker 2: in the nonpartisan look at what's behind the numbers here
Speaker 2: at the polling. Thanks again, brother, I have a great Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.
Speaker 14: Thank you, Scott, have a great one.
Speaker 2: Care can you reverse course here with this thing? I
Speaker 2: don't know these numbers are yeah, you go? Oh, I
Speaker 2: don't believe the polls, well, don't believe them to your
Speaker 2: own detriment. But clearly you got to focus on what
Speaker 2: you got elected on, and that is making America great again.
Speaker 2: Now attacking Venezuela for whatever reason, having the Saudi princes
Speaker 2: come in, I don't know why some of this other
Speaker 2: noise focus on. Focus on the economy. You know, you
Speaker 2: talked about the tariffs working and pretty clearly for all
Speaker 2: the majority of the people pulled anyway, it's not at
Speaker 2: this point. I think healthcare is another one you could
Speaker 2: really do something about, and you've neglected that for fifteen years.
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Speaker 2: Turkey and not do anything before the tur Birth of Thanksgiving,
Speaker 2: but I said, you know what, f itt uh, let's
Speaker 2: put our decorations up in the new house. And you know,
Speaker 2: I think maybe with all the turmoil in our lives
Speaker 2: and everyone's lives these days, and handwringing and concern about
Speaker 2: the future and what's going on, you know, there's comfort
Speaker 2: in the holidays. So hopefully you get comfort in the holidays.
Speaker 2: I know some people don't, but we do, and that's
Speaker 2: why we decided to go early on it.
Speaker 11: We did last weekend, I mean, two weeks before Thanksgiving,
Speaker 11: which is crazy. But at the same time, you know,
Speaker 11: Thanksgiving is late this year, at least it feels later
Speaker 11: than normal. I don't know, it's the same.
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I feel later. I guess.
Speaker 11: I don't know, no, but it's it's always nice because
Speaker 11: once we put the tree up, the lights stay on
Speaker 11: the entire season, so it's it's a good thing.
Speaker 3: I will say this.
Speaker 2: There is of all the inventions out there, little gimmicks
Speaker 2: and things like that that's in need of is has
Speaker 2: anyone successfully ever been able to put the angel or
Speaker 2: the star atop the tree in less than an hour
Speaker 2: to get it to the sit straight. It has been
Speaker 2: since the dawn of time, since the first Christmas tree
Speaker 2: was up, somebody's always tried to put the star on top,
Speaker 2: and it's always crooked. And you spend fifteen minutes trying
Speaker 2: to get that thing out here on the ladder or
Speaker 2: a chair, and you're gonna fall over, and then your
Speaker 2: spouse is turn it.
Speaker 3: To that light no more, your left, no the other way.
Speaker 2: And it just evolves into you know, you bought a
Speaker 2: new star for the top of the tree because.
Speaker 6: The other star would never sit right.
Speaker 2: Well, my angel, And what happened was we had the
Speaker 2: agel and I was trying to get that straight, and
Speaker 2: I've got mad and fired it across the room and
Speaker 2: I broke our So I just I'm probably going to
Speaker 2: hell for that, destroying an angel. But nonetheless, she had
Speaker 2: it coming, No she did not, she did. She decided
Speaker 2: to send a message and uh so you bought this
Speaker 2: star and that's kind of janky, and it's got like
Speaker 2: there's nothing that works to try to fix that thing
Speaker 2: that they put the you know, they've got the upside
Speaker 2: down ice cream cone on the angel's ass and it's
Speaker 2: supposed to sit there and it doesn't sit there. And
Speaker 2: then the star that ass that doesn't work either. Well,
Speaker 2: you know this is these are the things.
Speaker 6: Don't worry about.
Speaker 2: I guess it's just the thing everyone goes through it.
Speaker 2: It's like there's no easy way to get that thing
Speaker 2: straight up and down, Like, wow, that's perfect. It took
Speaker 2: me a good fifteen twenty minutes standing on the ladder
Speaker 2: to the point where the tay after my cat's hurt.
Speaker 6: That's the sad part.
Speaker 3: I'm used to being on ladders. You know, got a
Speaker 3: little step stool.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to reach up there, and I should have
Speaker 2: got my ladder, but it was at the shop.
Speaker 11: Like recording you because then you know, if something happened
Speaker 11: and you fell over on top of the tree.
Speaker 2: Throw a window, that would have been great, fantastic, awesome.
Speaker 2: My life is just what I need is more surgery. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but we're in the artificial tree phase of our I
Speaker 2: would we get the real tree. And it was always
Speaker 2: nice because we've bring the kids, and the kids are young,
Speaker 2: and they couldn't wait, and they get to help and
Speaker 2: saw the tree. You know, we do the whole Clark
Speaker 2: Griswolt thing and go to the farm up in Lebanon
Speaker 2: and get a get a tree up there. And it
Speaker 2: was awesome because they had the cocoa for the kids,
Speaker 2: and they give you an annual orn and popcorn, and
Speaker 2: you know, they had like, I don't know, a goat
Speaker 2: that we called it was a reindeer, but it was
Speaker 2: just a goat. And kids are stupid, so they don't know. Anyway,
Speaker 2: they're playing with the reindeer that's actually a goat. But
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say nothing, so we go and go.
Speaker 2: And then finally they hit those tween and teenager years,
Speaker 2: and then everything was stupid.
Speaker 3: They didn't want to do all this stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, why am I spending all this
Speaker 2: money and hauling them out to the out to the farm,
Speaker 2: and they have no interest. They didn't want to get
Speaker 2: out of the car, you know, so like, the hell
Speaker 2: with it, We're going home.
Speaker 3: I'm buying an artificial Christmas tree.
Speaker 11: Well, and then for in those teenage years, they nobody
Speaker 11: would ever help me put anything up. So I got
Speaker 11: to a point where I'm like, I mean, I want
Speaker 11: to put the darn ornaments on the tree anymore. It's like,
Speaker 11: and then I'm the only one that takes it down.
Speaker 11: You usually are in charge of the outdoor light display
Speaker 11: called Clark, and then I'll do the inside.
Speaker 6: But yeah, we it is.
Speaker 11: It does feel good to have the holiday lights on
Speaker 11: and it's been cold and dreary, and when the lights
Speaker 11: are on and it's glowing, it is it's kind of
Speaker 11: magical and it and it feels good when you come
Speaker 11: home and the lights have to be on because it's
Speaker 11: dark outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's there's a comfort to it, right. Even
Speaker 2: if that angel or the star is crooked, Yeah, I'll.
Speaker 6: Have to take it.
Speaker 2: I'll take a picture of our crooked star post. The
Speaker 2: angel angel top of the tree is just a weird thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, like the branch is upper skirt, it's like
Speaker 2: and then there's it just it's it's just I don't
Speaker 2: know why a star is much much better. Let's get
Speaker 2: into real estate related stuff, not holiday related stuff.
Speaker 4: Should you have.
Speaker 3: Christmas decorations up if you're trying to sell your house?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and no, so for pictures.
Speaker 11: I do try to keep it fairly generic because the
Speaker 11: pictures are going to possibly outlast the holiday season. And
Speaker 11: that's what's happening right now, because the market is slow
Speaker 11: and we have listings that are staying on the market
Speaker 11: for more than thirty days. And so if your pictures
Speaker 11: show the holidays even when this snow outside. So we
Speaker 11: had that brief little snowfall, and some people were putting
Speaker 11: their house on the market during that snow, so the
Speaker 11: photos showed snow. Well, that sort of dates your photos,
Speaker 11: and so it'll be fine obviously for the next couple months.
Speaker 11: But if you're if it takes longer to sell your home,
Speaker 11: you know, generic is better, and it just certainly when
Speaker 11: you are living your life in between showings because you're
Speaker 11: not going to have as many showings during the holidays.
Speaker 11: A lot of people take their home off the market,
Speaker 11: and frankly, I don't think that's the best idea because
Speaker 11: you can sell your home unless people know that it's there.
Speaker 6: So there are buyers out there that are serious. But
Speaker 6: if you are a seller, I.
Speaker 11: Would say, you know, keep the holiday decorations to a minimum.
Speaker 11: I have one listening that's been out there since October
Speaker 11: and they wanted to have you know, fall like pumpkins
Speaker 11: and stuff in their photos, and I said, nope, we
Speaker 11: can't do that because you know, we don't want to
Speaker 11: date the photos and show that it's been on the
Speaker 11: market longer than we like to think. But it's part
Speaker 11: of the process and generic is better, all.
Speaker 3: Right, fair enough?
Speaker 2: What about those who put religious artifacts and decorations up
Speaker 2: and the Jesus is the reason for the season, and
Speaker 2: you know, you may go and have I don't know,
Speaker 2: a live Nativity scene on your front lawn. Does that
Speaker 2: turn people away? And how do you navigate that?
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a conversation that we have. Is that not
Speaker 11: all people believe and when you are selling your home,
Speaker 11: it is a good idea to put away a lot
Speaker 11: of the religious artifacts. Now, my mom sold her home
Speaker 11: over the summer and she has she is the devoted
Speaker 11: Catholic that she is, and she has crosses and.
Speaker 3: Massive every day Rosary, four times.
Speaker 6: A day, constantly, and it's.
Speaker 3: Living room.
Speaker 6: They did not.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 11: I said, Mom, I love you, I know that that's
Speaker 11: important to you, but it's not important to everybody. You
Speaker 11: need to go ahead and put those in a box.
Speaker 11: And she said, I'm not going to do it. If
Speaker 11: they don't like it too bad, I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 11: it is ultimately your decision, but I feel like it's
Speaker 11: always best. If you want to leave a couple of
Speaker 11: items out, fine, but you want to neutralize your home,
Speaker 11: just like you know, you don't want a ton of
Speaker 11: holiday decorations now. If you're gonna right now, you've got kids,
Speaker 11: your home is on the market, you have to sell.
Speaker 11: You're going to put a tree up or something like that,
Speaker 11: that's okay, it's okay, Just don't have it in the
Speaker 11: pictures if you can avoid it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So no giant crucifix in the living room.
Speaker 2: I would not recommend that. Just an important safety tip
Speaker 2: there if you're trying to sell. So yeah, so what
Speaker 2: is uh safety?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 3: What else you got?
Speaker 11: Well, you know, this time of year, most people are thinking, well,
Speaker 11: I can't buy my house now because I can't get
Speaker 11: a real inspection. And so talking about home inspections during
Speaker 11: the cold winter months is the topic that I find
Speaker 11: quite fascinating because there are some things that an inspector
Speaker 11: is not going to be able to see. Let's say
Speaker 11: there is snow on your roof, well, they're not going
Speaker 11: to be able to like blow the snow off the
Speaker 11: roof to check it, but they can go up to
Speaker 11: see the attic. They can see some things that you
Speaker 11: don't have to see from the outside of the home.
Speaker 11: So the cold weather actually helps inspectors find problems like
Speaker 11: drafts and air leaks, insulation problems, heating system, frozen or
Speaker 11: slow drains, which that's obviously something you're never going to
Speaker 11: see in the summertime. Window seal failures, ice damming in
Speaker 11: the roof edges, if you've got too little or too
Speaker 11: much insulation. Those kinds of things you can really see
Speaker 11: during the winter months. So that's a good thing. Did
Speaker 11: I say the AC You can't test your air efficiency.
Speaker 4: That way?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't do that. You'll bust it up. Yeah no,
Speaker 6: I don't. Just you just can't do it.
Speaker 3: Snow what happens.
Speaker 2: You can't do it because snow will come out of
Speaker 2: your ducks and that's not good.
Speaker 6: I don't think that's.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's very true.
Speaker 11: I think you're making that up. See I can call
Speaker 11: out your bs anyway.
Speaker 2: No testing the AC below a certain temperature, so you
Speaker 2: can't do that. But I okay, But there's other things
Speaker 2: you can do.
Speaker 11: Oh absolutely, again, you know the other this is an
Speaker 11: interesting statistic or fact. Radon tests are more accurate in
Speaker 11: winter than they are in the summer.
Speaker 6: What about that.
Speaker 11: That's interesting because everything's kind of closed up, so you're
Speaker 11: you know, you don't have your windows open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that if you've got pumbing problemly, plumbing problems,
Speaker 2: they show up in the winter.
Speaker 3: That's for sure.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 11: And if you have you know, if your drains are
Speaker 11: slow or you have slow water coming out of the
Speaker 11: faucets and stuff, that could mean that you have some
Speaker 11: frozen pipes along the way. That's definitely something. Winter can
Speaker 11: also expose pest issues.
Speaker 2: Well, let's focus on the plumbing for a second, because
Speaker 2: you know what Friday is. It's not Black Friday, it's
Speaker 2: brown Friday.
Speaker 3: Did you know that.
Speaker 6: After you've eaten all the food? All right?
Speaker 3: Yes, that's plumbing calls.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 2: Plumbers make a fortune on the weekend after just beeaking. Well,
Speaker 2: you got to think about it, you know, especially have
Speaker 2: one bathroom in your place maybe and you've got a
Speaker 2: lot of people there, and it's constant, constant, constant, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of paper and things going down there
Speaker 2: and maybe kids to throw things down there they shouldn't.
Speaker 2: And of course your plumbing system and you may not
Speaker 2: know because you use it occasionally not as frequently, and
Speaker 2: when you get that high use thing going on there,
Speaker 2: it tends to club. There's a lot of paper and
Speaker 2: stuff down there. And so yeah, because there's just so
Speaker 2: many people using.
Speaker 3: It, Okay, that's good time, just FYI.
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe go in shifts or be a
Speaker 2: little more conservative, hand out one square when they go
Speaker 2: in and say this is all you get.
Speaker 3: I don't know, don't use the whole role.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Or my nephew who goes in AND's.
Speaker 2: Like three days, like I'll see if he's still he's
Speaker 2: just getting our bathroom now. He was there since I
Speaker 2: think labor day. So I don't know what he's doing
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't want to know what he's doing in there.
Speaker 6: No, I don't.
Speaker 2: All right, see, uh remember one time he missed like
Speaker 2: the entire first half of the football game.
Speaker 3: It's like, are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: Just takes me a while, okay, all right, whatever. So
Speaker 2: more than you look at that, Yeah, it's just it's
Speaker 2: brown fry plumbers kind of joke about it, but there's
Speaker 2: a lot of truth to it, a lot of service
Speaker 2: calls because of clock and all of that. It's also
Speaker 2: you know, people putting stuff down drains they shouldn't. If
Speaker 2: you have a disposal at your home and you're used
Speaker 2: to it and Aunt Sally's I'll do the dish. No,
Speaker 2: you've put all this cooking. It was delicious, honey, you
Speaker 2: go watch the football, I'll clean up. And Aunt Sally
Speaker 2: doesn't have a disposal, or she has a disposal that
Speaker 2: you don't and she's cramming, you know, pieces of turkey
Speaker 2: fat down the sink. You're gonna have a problem there.
Speaker 2: Same thing too with the grease, and there are people
Speaker 2: who still don't understand you can't put grease down a
Speaker 2: drain because it causes clogs and backups and you have
Speaker 2: that as well. So yeah, it's a busy day for
Speaker 2: plumbers for sure.
Speaker 11: That's actually the grease tip is huge because I have
Speaker 11: seen the results of someone who has been putting grease
Speaker 11: down there drain for years and so you think, well,
Speaker 11: I'm going to turn the hot water on and the
Speaker 11: grease will go down and it'll just keep going and
Speaker 11: it will be a liquid forever. But it's not because
Speaker 11: at a certain point in the line, it gets cold
Speaker 11: and that grease will solidify and after years and years,
Speaker 11: that's it. It can be a very very expensive I
Speaker 11: saw one one property that we did an inspection and
Speaker 11: the clog from the grease was so significant it was
Speaker 11: halfway out there lawn, you know where by the time
Speaker 11: it got to that point where it solidified, and it
Speaker 11: was a very expensive lesson, no question for the homeowners.
Speaker 11: And they're like, well, we've never had a problem. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 11: you don't have a problem until you do.
Speaker 3: It's a while for that.
Speaker 2: To you know, a little bit at a time, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's not a commercial kitchen, so it builds.
Speaker 2: So what happens is like anything you think of that pipe,
Speaker 2: it goes down and where's it go It goes straight
Speaker 2: down and that goes I don't know, I'll go through
Speaker 2: my foundation said, right, it's underground where it's cold, and
Speaker 2: at some point that that warm turns to cold and
Speaker 2: there'll be a No matter how much they sloped pipe,
Speaker 2: there's always gonna be a little low spot, a little
Speaker 2: valley in there somewhere. And then if you have a
Speaker 2: break because it's older even more so, but there's gonna
Speaker 2: be a spot where it stops and Clyde, it's good,
Speaker 2: and then it starts to build up and it's like
Speaker 2: your arteries, like eventually it becomes where you've got to
Speaker 2: call the surgeon and in this case the plumber. And
Speaker 2: whether it's I don't know, a bypass or bypassing your
Speaker 2: your your drain stack, it's it's expensive and it's a
Speaker 2: lot of pain. So anyway, my wife Michelle Sloan here
Speaker 2: from sloan sellslones dot com. The open house show that
Speaker 2: airs on the iHeartRadio app. You can hear that there
Speaker 2: and the YouTube too as well, and the video version
Speaker 2: of it as well. She has guests and stuff like that. Anyway,
Speaker 2: she's over at the Remax time in Mainville, and happy holidays.
Speaker 2: Be forewarned about what you put down your sink and plumbing,
Speaker 2: and be careful putting that star arrangel in the tree.
Speaker 2: Somebody needs to come up with a better way to
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