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Speaker 1: Don't want to be an American back half the week,

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Speaker 1: got a love It Sloanly seven hundred WLW and a

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Speaker 1: big sports weekend head More on that a little bit

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Speaker 1: later and news involving Joe Burrow will have that covered

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Speaker 1: for you this morning.

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Speaker 2: Could be maybe possibly will we see him in action

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Speaker 2: against the Patriots of New England on Sunday. So you're

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Speaker 2: saying there's a chance before that. The city wants to

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Speaker 2: move forward on a plan to finish the banks, but

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Speaker 2: the county says we're broke, it's not a priority, and

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Speaker 2: we've got more disagreement between the county and the city.

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Speaker 2: The plan calls for up to eight hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: in redevelopment over the next fifteen years to complete the

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Speaker 2: five remaining lots at the now twenty year old banks.

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Speaker 2: And we have a new twist Council unanimously approving four

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Speaker 2: million to buy the former free store food bank location

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Speaker 2: on Central Parkway that's next to TQL that's causing speculation

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Speaker 2: as a possible site for a new arena. All this

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Speaker 2: and more. He is the development guy on City Council.

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Speaker 2: That would be council Member Seth Walsh on the Scotsland

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Speaker 2: show seth.

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Speaker 3: Gomore, Scott.

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Speaker 4: See how Man, Yeah, doing well.

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Speaker 2: Lots to unpack here, and this is so in your

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Speaker 2: wheelhouse obviously, let's start with this new information about buying

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Speaker 2: the four million dollar a lot. I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: aerial on Google Earth of this thing. I'm looking at it,

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Speaker 2: going okay, well, uh, it's next to public television, public radio.

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Speaker 2: Across the street is Queen City Radio, so it's in

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Speaker 2: the shadows of TQL Stadium. But I'm trying to see

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Speaker 2: how you fit an arena in there? Can you do

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Speaker 2: it if CET goes away? Although I know they just

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Speaker 2: spent a ton of money on their their remodel. The

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Speaker 2: other side of this is a Duke Energy substation that's

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Speaker 2: not movable. You've got houses behind it. The neighbors don't

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Speaker 2: want this going across Central Avenue and keep it on

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Speaker 2: Central Parkway. Is this the site for a future arena?

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Speaker 4: I mean it could be very well, could be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of the sites, and you know, Scott

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Speaker 5: to take a look at it. You know, it's identified

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Speaker 5: in the arena study that was done last year in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four as one of the four central sites

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Speaker 5: for where we could be putting an arena including the

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Speaker 5: existing location. And that's why this acquisition is so important.

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Speaker 5: Even if it ultimately doesn't become an arena. Let's get

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Speaker 5: control of the land so we can have that conversation

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Speaker 5: and we can drive this conversation and make sure that

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Speaker 5: we are evaluating all the options and we don't ultimately

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Speaker 5: get strung out with somebody having control of a valuable

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Speaker 5: parcel that we want if we want to put an

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it absolutely could be an.

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Speaker 3: Arena possibility there.

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Speaker 2: So moving some stuff right, of course, you know, we

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Speaker 2: know what's going on with the public public media. CET

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Speaker 2: owns the building in the air rights, the city owns

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Speaker 2: the land itself. Cost about fifty million dollars to move

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Speaker 2: this thing, and you know you've got to come up

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Speaker 3: Dollars to do that.

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Speaker 2: If that's a possibility, then certainly you could put that

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Speaker 2: right next to TQL Sadam and almost like what you know,

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Speaker 2: putting the arena next to pay Corp, which I think

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Speaker 2: would be great, But we're not going to do that obviously,

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Speaker 2: because now you can share facilities, you can share infrastructure.

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Speaker 3: That that's good, But.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't that then take away what we're talking about here

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Speaker 2: want to keep the arena in its present location. A

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Speaker 2: new arena if they're to build it, why spend all

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Speaker 2: the money in the Banks. If you're going to build

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Speaker 5: End, well, the Banks, regardless of whether there's an arena

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Speaker 5: not like we would be taking all the supporting opportunities

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Speaker 5: I think that's part of the larger conversation we need

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Speaker 4: Frankly, which is what gets me excited about the plan.

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Speaker 2: Is this also maybe leverage because the county stand we're broke,

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Speaker 2: it's not a priority. The ferris wheel will screw up

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Speaker 2: the Freedom Center on all these other things. And you

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Speaker 2: You want to move forward like yesterday on this bank thing,

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Speaker 2: and the County's not going to go anywhere you need

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Speaker 2: both entities to go. Is this possible? This four million

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Speaker 2: has had a way for you to go. Hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: we've got some leverage here.

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Speaker 4: I don't see this as a leverage play.

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Speaker 5: I see this as having a vision for what we

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Speaker 5: want Cincinnati to become, and I think for the future

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Speaker 5: of Cincinnati for the next ten to fifteen years. To

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Speaker 5: really put us on the national stage, we need to

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Speaker 5: have an arena and we need to have a thriving banks.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's an either or, and I think

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Speaker 5: either location, any of the locations for the arena helped

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Speaker 5: solve that problem. But we can't just build an arena

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Speaker 5: and not be solving the banks situation. Yeah, and likewise

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Speaker 5: we can't solve the bank situation and not hav an

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Speaker 4: So my opinion on this.

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Speaker 5: Is this is called vision and this is called leadership,

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Speaker 5: and it's not trying to leverage or play anybody off

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Speaker 5: what we need. We need that type energy right now.

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Speaker 2: Seth, You can't control what you take your contemporaries over

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Speaker 3: You don't control them. But can you do an arena?

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Speaker 2: Can the City of Cincinnati do an arena without county involvement?

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Speaker 4: You know a lot of people say no.

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Speaker 5: My answer would be, you know, Scott, you and I

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Speaker 5: have talked of development a lot. Every development project you

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Speaker 5: It's a lot easier for the counties at the table.

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Speaker 5: But if it's not at the table, then that means

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Speaker 5: we have to get more creative on how we solve

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Speaker 5: figure out the answers to it regardless. Look at what

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Speaker 5: we did with the convention center, three hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 5: That wasn't found overnight, and it wasn't found from one source.

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Speaker 5: And that's what I think is going to take to

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Speaker 5: be prepared to figure out ways to fund it even

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Speaker 2: What does that look like relative to financing? Is there

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Speaker 2: you can be confident in saying we got enough private

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Speaker 5: Well, you're asking a question much further down the line

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Speaker 5: very beginning stages of the arena conversation.

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Speaker 4: But in the Arena study it does specifically call.

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Speaker 5: Out that modern day arenas are being built with about

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Speaker 5: one third of it coming from private money. Yes, I mean, man,

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Speaker 5: that is in the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 5: So no, this would not be a pure public funded project,

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Speaker 5: and it would be a project that would require private

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Speaker 5: just sitting there vacant. There's some really good questions to it,

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Speaker 5: but again it's something we have to commit to. You

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Speaker 5: commit to it. It's like anything in development. You say

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Speaker 5: we're going to do it, and you figure out how

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Speaker 5: you're going to do it from there, What.

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Speaker 3: Is the timeline in your mind?

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Speaker 4: So it's up to me.

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Speaker 5: As Jerry said, it would have been two weeks ago,

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Speaker 5: you know, we had been doing this. I think this

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Speaker 4: So I think by twenty.

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Speaker 5: Twenty nine we need to have answers and I'd love

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'm talking to council Member Seth Walsh of

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati City Council on the show. With the news that

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Speaker 2: the city's purchased land at near TQL Stadium, speculation is

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Speaker 2: that maybe in Arena could go there. Seth Walsh not

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Speaker 2: rulling that out money is the question because typically as

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Speaker 2: Alisha Reese said on the show, you know, we're kind

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Speaker 2: of broke right now, We're gonna have the money, worried

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Speaker 2: this other stuff, and other members said, it's not even

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Speaker 2: probably not. And that's just the best banks let alone arena.

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Speaker 2: The banks have come before in arena. If they have money,

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Speaker 2: do the banks? They certainly don't have money to do

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Speaker 2: simply we don't have the cash.

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Speaker 5: That's a million dollic question, isn't it. The banks has

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Speaker 5: never been done exclusively by the county. It has always

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Speaker 5: been done through a partnership. I think the conversation that

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Speaker 5: steering committee that brought this plan together. If there's a

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Speaker 5: like that. This is not a conversation actively happening between

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Speaker 5: to provide support. You challenge the leaders who are in

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Speaker 5: and these developments and then come back to us and

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Speaker 5: tell us what it takes to get to happen. The

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Speaker 5: resources exist for development, we see it all the time.

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Speaker 5: You have talked about a number of times. Right to

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Speaker 5: do that, we need the projects being brought to us.

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Speaker 5: And so there are people including Phil Becker, came presented

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Speaker 5: the plan the reality now and that's how this happens.

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Speaker 5: And when they come to us and they say, hey,

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Speaker 4: We start answering at that stage says Walsh.

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Speaker 2: Denise Treehouse, the commissioned president, said this thing would be

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Speaker 2: Okay, the specific plans for this thing, it's going to

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Speaker 5: We make sure that these can cash flow and make

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's really cool.

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Speaker 2: what you're proposing here. I know a lot of cities,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, when I walked around downtown, one of

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Speaker 4: That's the opportunity that's in front of us. And we're talking.

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Speaker 5: About five plots of big acreage right in the heart

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Speaker 4: Know, the core of downtown. We can do that.

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Speaker 5: We can build the next one hundred hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: You're you know, going out on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, A legitimate question here about the timeline is the

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Speaker 5: Well, And that's that's the point that I made earlier.

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Speaker 2: It is at the same time, you know, in circling

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Speaker 2: How much weight do the Reds, the Bengals and the

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Speaker 5: I mean, when you say how much do they have

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Speaker 4: Are you talking about.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, development the banks, but also let's factor the arena.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with that seth. I mean, can they just say, hey,

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Speaker 2: You're going to put it at the Banks and you're

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Speaker 2: because we're the power brokers. I think a lot of

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Speaker 5: Well, when you talk about the arena, and as we

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Speaker 4: If they're saying that's not where it can go.

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Speaker 5: So if the power brokers quote unquote whoever that is

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Speaker 2: The illuminati said it's the Illuminati, we'll call it what

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Speaker 4: Whatever we want to call it. If they want to

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Speaker 5: We're not adversaries here. We all trying to run the

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Speaker 5: makes that happen. None of these are gonna be cheap,

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Speaker 5: that's a good investment for us because this is something

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Speaker 5: We've been talking about arena for fifty years from the banks.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully that the next one hundred years of success. People

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, And then I think the same

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Speaker 2: there as well. They have a say, but they don't

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Speaker 2: get veto power.

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Speaker 4: Correct. Yeah, that's exactly it.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're all a team, but ultimately we got

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Speaker 5: to be looking long term about what's being what's happening here.

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Speaker 5: They have a seat at the table, they've been very

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Speaker 5: what the plan is. That's that's exactly what this needs

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Speaker 5: to be all right, team, let's make it happen together.

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Speaker 3: Got it?

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Speaker 2: Council Member Seth Walla's always a pleasure, love the insight.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again for coming on the show and Ed and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we will want to talk but have a

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Speaker 2: wonderful thanksgiving you too, Scott, all right, take care, appreciate

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Speaker 2: your time as always. Let me get a time out

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Speaker 2: in some reaction maybe here too as well. And that

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Speaker 2: sounds like a you know what, a big middle finger

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Speaker 2: to the county Commission.

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Speaker 3: Don't you like you know what? You guys won't move up.

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Speaker 3: We got this, we got.

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Speaker 2: And just posting up on social the conversation I just

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Speaker 2: Congress People on yesterday, counsel Member Seth Walsh, who is

441
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Speaker 2: the big pro development guy on council. And make no

442
00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,280
Speaker 2: mistake about it, you'll be hearing this now, I'm guessing

443
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Speaker 2: probably today in the news cycle about his proclamation, it's

444
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Speaker 2: actually saying, look, we're going to do an arena with

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Speaker 2: or without the county. Now, this on the heels of

446
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Speaker 2: what we're discussing with the Banks project too, which you know,

447
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,000
Speaker 2: you go down there, well down there, even if you're

448
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,560
Speaker 2: not a Reds or Bengals fan, you go to the area,

449
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 2: you go, why do we have these concrete It looks like,

450
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Speaker 2: I don't know Cincinna's version a stonehenge. I think a

451
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 2: janky stone. We've got all these concrete piers down there

452
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 2: with nothing on it. You know, there's a rebar exposed.

453
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 2: It's unsightly, it's awful. You look, I go twenty years ago,

454
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,920
Speaker 2: we've got the bags going and we still have undeveloped laying.

455
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Speaker 2: They want to get this together and spend seven hundred

456
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Speaker 2: and fifty to eight hundred million dollars to build twenty

457
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Speaker 2: four stories or higher, get a hotel, get housing down there,

458
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,399
Speaker 2: get young people, young professionals in the city. A lot

459
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Speaker 2: of questions about that relative to affordable housing, which I understand.

460
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Speaker 2: And we've got a great political divide over this because

461
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Speaker 2: the Commission says we're broke, we don't have the money

462
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Speaker 2: twenty four stories is too high. There's no impetus to

463
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Speaker 2: get the sun by the County. Meanwhile, the city in

464
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Speaker 2: South Walsh and other members of council, and I haven't

465
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Speaker 2: surveyed all members of council, but I know it's unanimous

466
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Speaker 2: if they all feel we need to move forward and

467
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 2: need to move forward now. They wanted to start this

468
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Speaker 2: thing yesterday and the County says it's not even on

469
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Speaker 2: our radar right now. Can you do that without the County?

470
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Speaker 2: The answer is no, So we pivot to mayor aftab

471
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Speaker 2: vault and two days in a row. I give credit

472
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Speaker 2: where credits due, and I give criticism where criticisms due.

473
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm not carrying the water for anybody. I just want

474
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Speaker 2: stuff to work. I want common sense to rain, and

475
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,679
Speaker 2: I want freedom. Those three things, free to as an

476
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Speaker 2: adult to side adult things that I want to do

477
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Speaker 2: with my life outside and inside wherever it might be,

478
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 2: as long as I'm not hurting somewhere else. Generally, that's

479
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,679
Speaker 2: my life philosophy. You do you, I'll do me. We

480
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: can help each other along the way. That's how things

481
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 2: should work in a perfect world. We're not in a

482
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Speaker 2: perfect world. But the County says, hey, we don't have

483
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Speaker 2: money to the banks. Do you think they're going to

484
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 2: have the money to do an arena project? No, And

485
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: so the city goes under aftad pure Vall, the mayor

486
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Speaker 2: announcing yesterday we just bought spent four million dollars buying

487
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Speaker 2: the old freestore food bank location on Central Parkway, which

488
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Speaker 2: is kind of a cross if you like.

489
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Speaker 3: Where is that?

490
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Speaker 2: It's a cross right next to CET but across kind

491
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Speaker 2: of kitty corner from Queen City Radio, which is a

492
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: great bar right there in the shadows of tiqu Up

493
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Speaker 2: and Seth Wall saying well, you know CET, we own

494
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Speaker 2: the land there. We can move them fifty million out

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Speaker 2: of whatever would costs for an arena. It's not that

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Speaker 2: big an ask. We've got enough room to drop an

497
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Speaker 2: arena right there. Can you do that with out the

498
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Speaker 2: county involvement? The answer is, well, we prefer to partner,

499
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Speaker 2: but ultimately we own the land, we own the airspace.

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Speaker 2: We could get the developers together, the city could do

501
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: their own damn arena. How about that? And what does

502
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Speaker 2: that mean then for the future of the Banks. You've

503
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Speaker 2: got great American Ballpark, which, by the way, they're going

504
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 2: to start getting our proposals bids basically recusts our bids

505
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: to remodel Great American like we just did pay Court.

506
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Speaker 2: So city's got to look at that kind of money.

507
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: So can the city build a new arena, leave tired

508
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Speaker 2: old heritage Bank center behind and kind of start developing

509
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Speaker 2: what the bank should have looked like twenty years ago.

510
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Speaker 2: Because of the failure of the county and the city

511
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Speaker 2: to get together and come up with a plan, we've

512
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Speaker 2: got twenty years later, still undeveloped lan in the most

513
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Speaker 2: pricey area of town in downtown Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: I think the.

515
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Speaker 2: First salvo in the Civil War between the count of

516
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: the city has been fired by Seth Walsh on The

517
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Speaker 2: Scotsland Show this morning. It's gonna be interesting how this

518
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Speaker 2: plays out. Speaking of stadium, speaking of sports, and speaking

519
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: of entertainment. The other big news this morning is whether

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Speaker 2: or not Joe Burrow will play against the Patriots in

521
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Speaker 2: New England on Sunday. Now you look at their record

522
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 2: with the three wins, go man at the path of

523
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: the playoffs is damn near impossible. You never want to

524
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Speaker 2: say never in the it's c NFL parody and all

525
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: that stuff, But knowing the way the Bengals play defense

526
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 2: and sometimes offense is not happening. We know Joe Flacco

527
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: is possibly beyond a repair at this point. He's having

528
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Speaker 2: a heart He's not even practicing, can't throw a ball

529
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Speaker 2: to Jake Browning is not throwing. The other element here too,

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Speaker 2: is this bombshell that our own Tom Brandman dropped this

531
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Speaker 2: morning on his show, like maybe an hour hour and

532
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: a half ago, in his interview with the head coach,

533
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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. If he didn't hear this, he asked him

534
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Speaker 2: in practice, what did you see out of Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: this week?

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Speaker 7: That was pleased? I bet he looked good first day

537
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 7: taking eleven on eleven reps, and so that was a

538
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 7: great starting point for him, and I hadn't done that

539
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 7: for two months. So I was pleased before I saw.

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Speaker 8: You know, I did the NFL on Fox for twenty

541
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Speaker 8: five years, and I know that the league and the

542
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Speaker 8: teams take these injury reports very very seriously. He is

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Speaker 8: listed as a full participant. Is Joe Burrow going to

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Speaker 8: play on Sunday?

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Speaker 4: Well, we don't know that yet.

546
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Speaker 7: You know, it's kind of a balance of Joe Flacco

547
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 7: has n't been practicing on Wednesdays. So it was a

548
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 7: great opportiony to get Joe Burrow out there to take

549
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Speaker 7: as many reps as possible. So yeah, he took all

550
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Speaker 7: the reps, but but that was a balance with Joe

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Speaker 7: has not been practicing on Wednesdays last few weeks, and

552
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Speaker 7: so we'll just keep working through these next couple of days.

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Speaker 8: When do you plan on making a decision about that?

554
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Speaker 8: Because look, it's what everybody's talking about. I mean, you

555
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 8: were born maybe at night, but not last night.

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Speaker 3: You know that.

557
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Speaker 8: That's what everybody is talking about. Is Joe Burrow coming back?

558
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Speaker 8: So you know, I mean, is there let's put it

559
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Speaker 8: this way, is there a chance that he plays Sunday?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not there yet.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's one day of practice. Isn't going to

562
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Speaker 7: lead to that decision yet.

563
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Speaker 4: So we're here.

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Speaker 7: Is the time we have at our disposal and come

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Speaker 7: with the best decision we can.

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Speaker 8: Are you amazed by how quickly he's recovered from this.

567
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Speaker 8: I have Julieusfording, who was an Olympian marathon runner. She

568
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Speaker 8: had the same thing to Joe Burrow said it was

569
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Speaker 8: the most grueling rehab that she's ever been through. And

570
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Speaker 8: she's been through back surgeries and knee surgeries and all

571
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Speaker 8: that kind of thing. Are you even amazed that he's

572
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Speaker 8: even on the practice field at this point in time?

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Speaker 4: Am I amazed now?

574
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Speaker 7: Because I've watched this guy for the last six years

575
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 7: and I've seen him. He's obviously wired different than everybody else.

576
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Speaker 7: That's why he's.

577
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 4: Who he is.

578
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Speaker 7: Why he's a National champion, Heisman Trophy, winning, first pick

579
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Speaker 7: in the draft, all that kind of stuff, NFL comeback player,

580
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Speaker 7: the all the stuff that he earned.

581
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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 7: I've just now seen enough to where I just know

583
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Speaker 7: that's who he is. And this isn't the first rehab

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Speaker 7: he's had to go through, so he knew what that

585
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 7: process was. Obviously different injuries. Proud of him, not surprised,

586
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 7: maybe surprises the rest of the world, but is really

587
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 7: impressive the work that he's done to get back on

588
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Speaker 7: the field as quickly.

589
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 4: As he did.

590
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Speaker 8: Coach you feel mind, So it sort of take us

591
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 8: inside football here on something like this, and look, you

592
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 8: have to make a decision, and you'll consult with others,

593
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Speaker 8: But will this be a situation where Joe might come

594
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 8: into you, Joe Burrow, he might come to you and

595
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Speaker 8: say hey, you know, coach, I feel like I'm ready

596
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Speaker 8: to go.

597
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, And then that's that's that's my job,

598
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Speaker 9: you know, to balance, balance all the information and protect

599
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Speaker 9: the player and make the.

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Speaker 7: Best decision possible. But yeah, absolutely, he's he's certainly got

601
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Speaker 7: his opinions when he's put in the work and feels

602
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 7: how he does, and and we'll balance all that information.

603
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 4: All right.

604
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Speaker 8: Come on, come on, coach, come on, I'm gonna circle

605
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 8: back to it one more time.

606
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 4: I have to do it.

607
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Speaker 8: There are more people that listening to this morning show

608
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Speaker 8: than anywhere else, and they are huge me too, Bengo fait,

609
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Speaker 8: Come on, coach, you can tell us right now Burrow's

610
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Speaker 8: playing it.

611
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Speaker 3: He's playing it.

612
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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I wish I could. I wish I had

613
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Speaker 7: that decision today, you know. Honestly, it's I'm going to

614
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 7: take in all the information I can and make sure

615
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Speaker 7: it's the best one for for Joe and our team,

616
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Speaker 7: and we'll go from there, all right.

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Speaker 2: That is Zach Tanner on with our Tom Brenhaman this

618
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Speaker 2: morning on seven hundred WLW. I also love how Tom

619
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Speaker 2: dropped in the do you know who? I was lying

620
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Speaker 2: at the beginning there about twenty five years the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was.

622
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Speaker 2: Tom's questions were awesome, as as only Tom can do

623
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Speaker 2: right about what in pressing him U And so you

624
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 2: know it's coaching it in answer. And the way the

625
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Speaker 2: timeline on this works, I believe I'm gonna have Tony

626
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Speaker 2: Pike on after ten o'clock to talk about this. Is

627
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: you know you have until what tomorrow or is it Saturday?

628
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: I think to make the roster move. And we know

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is not anywhere near a hundred percent with

630
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Speaker 2: his injury. We know that while Jake Browning is Jake Browning,

631
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Speaker 2: is it almost forcing their hand like, hey, we have

632
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Speaker 2: no one else, We're going to have to play Burrow

633
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Speaker 2: if he's cleared to play. Now again, you are risking

634
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Speaker 2: the future because you imagine, mean God forbid, something happens

635
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Speaker 2: to him in this game against New England or in

636
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Speaker 2: the next couple of games for that matter. You know

637
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: you only got three wins. The playoffs are it's kind

638
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: of like an led not even a light, but like

639
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 2: a small led light at the end of the tunnel

640
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: you could barely see if you squint your eyes. The

641
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: chances of them making the postseason. I don't know, if

642
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: you're a core Bengals fan, you don't want to hear that,

643
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: but that's real. It's awfully difficult to come back to

644
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: three and seven, even with Joe Burrow. But you know

645
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 2: that Joe Burrow doesn't play defense either. He also doesn't

646
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: generally turn the ball over on off. We saw that

647
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: last week as well, So we could see him tomorrow

648
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: or maybe Saturday, and then do they activate him from

649
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: the game because they'd probably have to cut Browning to

650
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: make roster spot for him. And does that even make

651
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: sense at this point? And if you're going, okay, well,

652
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Speaker 2: this is great to say, listen to the you know,

653
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: go back in your head there. And as Tom was

654
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Speaker 2: pressing him, and he seemed like, kind of, I don't

655
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Speaker 2: know if your guy wasn't ready to play.

656
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Speaker 3: And maybe I'm reading too much into this.

657
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Speaker 2: I probably am, but speaking with people, as I often

658
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Speaker 2: do about matters, he can kind of It's not body language,

659
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: but it's more like voice language, you know what I mean. Boy,

660
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: he seemed b offfully loose, didn't he. He seemed like

661
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: to be in a really, really good mood for a

662
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Speaker 2: guy who's facing I mean, let's face it, even in Cincinnati,

663
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: he's on the hot seat. Duke Tobin's on the hot seat,

664
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Speaker 2: there's no question, and he's looking at it's going, well,

665
00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: my MVP quarterback is out. I've got Joe Flacco, who

666
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: is great those first game, but now he's hurt. And

667
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: Jake Browning is the reason why Joe Flacco's here and

668
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: also the reason why we've lost seven games, not all seven,

669
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Speaker 2: but certainly, you know, if he were pressing you on

670
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: the health of Joe Burrow and Joe wasn't ready to play,

671
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: don't you think he'd kind of shut that down. But

672
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: he sounded like loose and happy and ready for New England,

673
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: the best team in football, to come to Cincinnati on Sunday.

674
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Speaker 2: And again, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but

675
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Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a chance it's like it sounds

676
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: like maybe Joe Burrow will play on Sunday. Again, complete

677
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: speculation here, but man, he seemed to be in a

678
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Speaker 2: really good mood coach when being pressed, and normally if

679
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: that's not the case, you know, they get their data

680
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: up a little bit and push back, and coaches are

681
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: good at shutting down. Journalists are people asking questions and

682
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: try to make you feel stupid, and that's kind of

683
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Speaker 2: what their job is.

684
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Speaker 3: I understand that.

685
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Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll see how this plays out, and maybe some

686
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Speaker 2: insight here from Tony Pike come up after ten o'clock

687
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: this morning on seven hundred ww's Scott's Loan Show. We

688
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: got that going on. We also have this if you're

689
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: traveling over the holidays. There's been a four hundred percent

690
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: increase in unruly passenger incidents on planes over the last

691
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Speaker 2: six years, four hundred percent increase. So the Secretary of

692
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Speaker 2: Transportation is launching a new campaign to restore what they

693
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: call courtesy in class to air travel, urging travelers to

694
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: ask themselves questions like are you dressing with respect? Are

695
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: you keeping control of your children? Are you saying please

696
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: and thank you? Sounds like Terry Thiji all over again.

697
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: I'm watching you, You're watching me, I'm watching you. The

698
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: DOT believes that this is going to help ensure the

699
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Speaker 2: safety of passengers and gate workers, flight attendants, pilot's, ground crews,

700
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I think it's an interesting strategy

701
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: in the sense that is it nineteen fifty all over again,

702
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Speaker 2: Because you know that mom guilt thing, you really grandma

703
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: guilt that we know that there's a back life. We

704
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: know that doesn't work, And I get it. You know,

705
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: there's an appeal to personal responsibility, to social norms, to

706
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Speaker 2: civility and etiquette as a safety concerned but you know,

707
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: certainly it's kind of vague. It's also unenforceable, and it's

708
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Speaker 2: voluntary compliance. It just sounds a little condescending and lecturing.

709
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Speaker 2: But let's face it, does it really address the root

710
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: causes to be kind of We have crowded over crowded planes,

711
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 2: we have delays, we have stress, we have people who

712
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: are drinking before, during, and after the flight, and of

713
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: course we have an attitude where everyone is the most

714
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: important person on the face of the earth. The most

715
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: important person is me, is what the belief is. And

716
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: when you put that toxic mix of all that together,

717
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: I think just asking to be nice to each other,

718
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: it's going to miss the mark because they're not. Because

719
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: it's it's all relative, you know, morality of sense has

720
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: become a relative thing. You know, how dare you tell

721
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: me how to dress, don't tell me what to do,

722
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: don't disrespect me. Meanwhile, you're disrespecting everyone else by acting

723
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: the way you're acting had a large number of the reasons.

724
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: You know, airlines are, despite the spike, air travels still

725
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: relatively cheap. So in that tends to let's face it,

726
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: if if not that certainly rich people don't act poorly.

727
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Wepstein thing, right, But in

728
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: that regard too, is you know, when when the price

729
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: tickets come down everything to afford a flight, there are

730
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Speaker 2: people there who just simply don't know how to act

731
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Speaker 2: in public. You see it all the time on flights.

732
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Speaker 2: So in the other limit too, Quite honestly, there's no

733
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Speaker 2: mention of airline or staff training or accountability from them,

734
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Speaker 2: because I've seen flight attendants and maybe you're having a

735
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: bad day, but I've seen flight attendants act poorly and

736
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: it's certainly not the fault of the passenger if they're

737
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: short or angry with you, and that escalates a situation.

738
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Speaker 2: I know, you can have a bad day, but the

739
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Speaker 2: passenger is not allowed to. And it doesn't addrust the

740
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: as I said, seat size, overbooking, service cuts, and people

741
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 2: maybe flying infrequently and not understanding how things work. I mean,

742
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: you see fights over overhead space all the time. You

743
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: know you'll let somebody bring in I don't know, a

744
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: piano with them and sticking overhead and there's no room

745
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: for everyone else. It's like, well, why aren't you stopping

746
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: that at the gate, and they won't do it. So

747
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: airlines bring a lot of the sound themselves, but I

748
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: don't know. Asking about whether or not you should be

749
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: dressing with respect or use some courtesy in class, maybe

750
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: you always try to, but if somebody's being jerky with me,

751
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you jerky times ten right back. And

752
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: it just it doesn't make for a pleasant experience. So

753
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean, that's say that seems kind of like a

754
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: desperate ploy But I don't I think the people who

755
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: would go, yeah, okay, I can do that are not

756
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: the people that are gonna cause problems in the first place.

757
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: Let's call it what it is. We've got a news

758
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: update where return T Pike is here. We'll talk about, well,

759
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: you just heard with Joe Burrow. Will he or won't

760
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: he on Sunday is the question, and it's I don't know,

761
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: it's starting to sound like maybe more like he may

762
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: be the guy. We may see QB one back at

763
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Speaker 2: the Helm against Drake May and the best team in

764
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: the NFL the New England Patriots, believe it or not,

765
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: on the Home of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred

766
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Speaker 2: W do WD Cincinnati.

767
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Speaker 10: Don't want to be.

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Speaker 2: Here, seven hundred WLW Welcome to It's on this busy, busy,

769
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Speaker 2: busy day, the big news sports wise as we had

770
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Speaker 2: on the weekend.

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Speaker 11: Here.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we've got a huge game with UC at

773
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Speaker 2: Heritage Bank. We've got though, which I understand. Ticket sales

774
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: are going pretty good, so if you want to get in,

775
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: make sure you get your tickets now. And I want

776
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: wait because of that parlays into Friday Night Football at

777
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: pay Car with Saint x An Elder. You've got FC

778
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: playing messy at TQL, winner takes all, and then the

779
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: Bengals on Sunday against the high flying league leading Drake

780
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: May and New England Patriots coming to town. And as

781
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: a Bills fan, I want to see the Bengals crush

782
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: the Patriots to help me out a little bit, but

783
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: I also want to see the Bengals do well. I

784
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: have question whether or not Joe Flacco can throw the

785
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: football any longer. I don't think Jake Brownie could ever

786
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: throw football. In the last couple of years and now

787
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: the question, as you heard with Tom brunhaman this morning

788
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred WLW in his weekly with Zach Taylor.

789
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor said, well see, and he wasn't an unusually

790
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: good move, which leads me to believe that there's a

791
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 2: good chance that Burrow may be starting on Sunday against

792
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Speaker 2: New England on that is the hall of fame of

793
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Speaker 2: the living legend, the straw that stirs the drink, the

794
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Speaker 2: songbird of his generation.

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Speaker 12: Tony Pike, oddly enough, you're just gonna leave out UC

796
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 12: hosting BYU and your weekend plans. Oh yeah, just an

797
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 12: insane ambition to start this. I had a feeling you

798
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 12: may bring that up with BYU coming to town. And

799
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Speaker 12: I know how high you are on the Bearcats, right yeah, yeah,

800
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 12: yeahing's everything's great in bearcat Land.

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00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 3: At Arizona, at home.

802
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: Come on, yeah.

803
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Speaker 12: Not ideal, not good, not ideal, controlling their own destiny

804
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 12: not anymore for the Bearcats.

805
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: Not good. But we'll see what happens.

806
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a chance you could beat by you

807
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: and sure it be a stunnard, be unbelievable, knock them.

808
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: There's a chance for a lot of things.

809
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: A lot of things gonna happen. There's a chance that

810
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow may play. I played earlier Tom Brenneman in

811
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Speaker 2: his about three minutes of him talking to Zach Taylor,

812
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Speaker 2: and I think I took away with it because and

813
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 2: you clarified, I know that they have to make a decision.

814
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: Let's start with the timeline here. What has to happen

815
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: for Joe Burr to play.

816
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, they would essentially make the decision on his availability

817
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 12: tomorrow and then ninety minutes leading up to kickoff on

818
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Speaker 12: Sunday as your active or inactive report. You know, I

819
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 12: I've listened multiple times now to Zach with Tom today,

820
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Speaker 12: and I listened to I'm a big Dan Rolofsky guy,

821
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Speaker 12: and I listened to Dani Rolofski yesterday and Danie Rolofsky.

822
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Speaker 12: As soon as the report came out that Joe Burrow

823
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 12: was full, Dan Rolofsky said, he's going to be playing.

824
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 12: You don't There's been so many things the Bengals could

825
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 12: have done in the last twenty four to forty eight

826
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Speaker 12: hours to not make this what it is put him

827
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Speaker 12: as limited on like practices are open to start and

828
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 12: then it's closed. If you haven't listed as limited. No

829
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 12: one's going to bat an eye. You listened to him

830
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Speaker 12: as a full participant. Zach Taylor has had ten chances

831
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Speaker 12: to shoot this down and say, ah, we're just not

832
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 12: there yet or close. He needs time and he's not

833
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Speaker 12: done that. Everything that they could have done to eliminate

834
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 12: this conversation we're having right now could have been done

835
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Speaker 12: which would lead me to believe that number nine is

836
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Speaker 12: going to be available to play.

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Speaker 2: I think the other thing too, and I if you

838
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: listen to this the three minutes, Zach Tatlor's awfully jovial

839
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: with Tom Brenneman. Like normally, if if you're starting quarterback

840
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: of Joe Brow, he can't go, he's still he's not

841
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: gonna be active. We know Joff Flacco is not good

842
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: health wise right now.

843
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 12: You don't have Jamar Chase.

844
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: You don't have Jamar Chase, right you don't have Trey Hendrickson.

845
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: You you got Jake Browning. Basically maybe maybe not, wouldn't

846
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: you be a little bit more shirling, like quit asking

847
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: me about this, Let's just focus on New England. Typically

848
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: that's Coach you saying it's like we're focused on New

849
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: England and.

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Speaker 12: At the court of your three wins. Yeah, you're a

851
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 12: three weeks. You're not going to come on on a

852
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 12: Thursday morning.

853
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: Your job is on the line.

854
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, ready to attack the day. And then everything you

855
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 12: just outlined to me, the biggest is the best player

856
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 12: on this offense, Jamar Chase is not going to play

857
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 12: on Sunday. So already, mentally, three wins, how are you

858
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 12: going to get an offense to function without the best

859
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 12: wide receiver football? Your defense tied an NFL record, You've

860
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 12: given up twenty seven or more and nine straight games. Normally,

861
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 12: that's not the attitude of a coach that's gonna come

862
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 12: on and sound as you mentioned, as jovial as Zach

863
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 12: Taylor was today. It's incredible. I again, I at this

864
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 12: point fully think that that Joe Burrow is gonna play,

865
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Speaker 12: and that opens up the brief small window of if

866
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Speaker 12: Joe Burrow is gonna play, can they run the table?

867
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Speaker 12: Who knows? But it does give one more if it

868
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 12: feels like this team we talked during the red season

869
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 12: feels like the Reds multiple times were like five seconds

870
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 12: away in a boxing round of getting knocked out right

871
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 12: and they lasted and they survived. The round and then

872
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 12: they came out swinging again, and I feel lucky out

873
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 12: your guard down. It's like and I feel like we've

874
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 12: done this like five times with the Bengals already, and

875
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 12: it felt like after the Pittsburgh game, coming off the

876
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 12: loss to the Jets and Bears, it was like, it

877
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 12: feels like it's over. Why would you bring Joe Burrow

878
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 12: back on Thanksgiving? Well, now, all of a sudden, mathematically

879
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 12: you're a little still there, right, and that that that

880
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 12: gives and breeze life back into a lot of Bengals.

881
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: It's that like a light at the end of It's

882
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: almost lot like the flame from a birthday candle. Right,

883
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I like one of your wives, that's the

884
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: one that gets blown out of I think that's light. Yeah,

885
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: it continues to light light up again. It officially does

886
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: a long tunnel. I can't see that far. And it

887
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: makes you think, man, if he could have played against Pittsburgh,

888
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: I think you had a better chance.

889
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: Think you may win and win that game. But New

890
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: England scares me.

891
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: Although you look at New England's record and maybe there's

892
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: a home run me talking is they're kind of due

893
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: for one here, you know, they're close to a couple

894
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 2: of games, and and you know this isn't the seventy

895
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: two Dolphins for crying out loud. Uh, you got Baltimore twice.

896
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: That'll be a battle Buffalo. Who knows which Bills team

897
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: shows up there in Miami, Arizona, Cleveland. Uh, those should

898
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: be wins there. So if you bank on it and

899
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 2: say he's back, maybe you do get those three wins

900
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: at that six. Can you get three more between now

901
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: and then? Pittsburgh would have been great, sweet the series,

902
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: but New England's going to be really, really tough.

903
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 12: But you got a chance with Burrow there. Yeah, the

904
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 12: AFC North was kind of what everyone was circling. That's

905
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 12: what makes the Pittsburgh loss so devastating.

906
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: But you're right.

907
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 12: I mean, if this is a New England team where

908
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 12: you're talking about it's the top defense in the NFL

909
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 12: and an offense that struggles. It's what New England does

910
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 12: offensively that worries me because it's the Bengals inability to

911
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 12: stop anyone on the defensive side of the ball. And

912
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 12: here comes Drake May who's an MVP favorite or CO

913
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 12: favorite right now, to win that award in just his

914
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 12: second year in the NFL. They mesh together so well

915
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 12: they present. What they do really well is what the

916
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 12: Bengals don't do, which starts with tackling and so many

917
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 12: other things. But you know, the Joe Burrow aspect of

918
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 12: this is odd. You know, if Joe Burrow was healthy

919
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 12: against the Bears and the Jets, they probably still lose

920
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 12: those games. He you couldn't have played any better. So

921
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 12: can Joe Burrow's return or potential return help the defense?

922
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 12: I don't know. But as you outlined, how odd is

923
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 12: it that we sit here today talking if the playoffs

924
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 12: were to start, the playoffs in the AFC don't have

925
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson. I mean, there are

926
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 12: a lot of stars on the outside looking in. Something's

927
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 12: going to have to give as the season rolls on.

928
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 12: And if Joe Burrow is playing, at least you get

929
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 12: the stretch run like you had last year, where you

930
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 12: feel like you have a chance every week.

931
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: Now, Ultimately, here's the other thing too, three and seven.

932
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: That's a long shot to make the playoffs. Teams don't

933
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: make the playoffs usually that that's the case. The concern

934
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 2: on the other side of this Okay, do we shut

935
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow down. We're just talking about this yesterday, right

936
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: now today, Okam, he may play a different thing, God forbid.

937
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: Something happens down the stretch here he comes back, maybe

938
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: a little too early, something else happens.

939
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: This team has a lot of holes.

940
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: Maybe something occurs, and now that sets him back in

941
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: the offseason. Yeah, you got to think about that. If

942
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: you're Zach Tannler, Yeah, you know.

943
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 12: The initial worries for me is not Joe Burrow in

944
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 12: the shotgun because it's his left foot. The initial worry

945
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 12: for me has been about going under center. I mean,

946
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 12: we have talked so much in the last weeks about

947
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 12: Joe Flocco's ability to unlock this offense and help the

948
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 12: old line and help the running game because he goes

949
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 12: under center. Joe Burrow is already not comfortable going under center.

950
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 12: And the one thing that I worry about if you

951
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 12: think of under center plays, how many quarterbacks do you

952
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 12: see on a weekly basis going under center and as

953
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 12: they push away from the center, they get stepped on

954
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 12: by a guard pulling, or a center pounds on a

955
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 12: tone that is surgically like that. That to me was

956
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 12: always the worry of Okay, if Joe can play, can

957
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 12: he play in a full capacity? Are there limitations where

958
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 12: he's only in shotgun? Because I don't know if I

959
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 12: still trust this O line in just Shotgun. I don't

960
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 12: know if they can run the ball consistently in just shotgun.

961
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 12: If you're telling me Joe Burrow has no limitations, he

962
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 12: can go under center twenty five times, great, But are

963
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 12: you willing to put him under center and ask him

964
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 12: to violently push off on that left toe and run

965
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 12: the risk of someone stepping on him with a lot

966
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 12: of traffic in the middle there? That would be what

967
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 12: would worry me? And again, can you can you avoid

968
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 12: a setback that then takes Joe Burrow out for the offseason?

969
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 12: And then we're talking about another offseason where Joe Burrow

970
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 12: was compromised less than ideal off season, a less than

971
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 12: ideal training camp that would be the ultimate doomsday scenario

972
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 12: for this team.

973
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and something.

974
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: This is a lesser example, obviously, but I had a

975
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: ruptured tendon to my foot. I'm walking around with a

976
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: boot and I was about five weeks I got the

977
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: boot off. You're like you met, you're letting a really

978
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: significant progress I'm about eight weeks out right now from

979
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: that and I'm doing PT and stuff, but I know,

980
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: like I still am reluctant to push off and do

981
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 2: And you know, granted I'm thirty years older than he is.

982
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: He's getting treated like a waygoo beefcalf for the rubbing,

983
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: hum and massage. When we got trainers, a whole different paradigm,

984
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: the nutrition, the training all. I appreciate that, but at

985
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's still a in this case,

986
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: a ligament and his toe versus a ten in my foot.

987
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's you're still in that eight week window

988
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, we can start generally you start RHIAs.

989
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, he may be clear to practice and he's

990
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 2: throwing and said, but you could still reinjure that and

991
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: it wouldn't take as much as it would Prior to.

992
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 12: Anyone that has ever been through a major type of

993
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 12: surgery nose, there is one wrong move or one wrong

994
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 12: thing and it has set yourself right. So there is

995
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 12: to me. I went through it when I was at

996
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 12: uc and playing because I had the same injury back

997
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 12: to back years. And I've said this before, there's a

998
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 12: physical side to rehab. That sucks. The mental side, to

999
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 12: me was worse because for Joe Burrow, he's had so

1000
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 12: many major injuries. When you get injured, you know, okay,

1001
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 12: physically this is going to be a grind. But mentally,

1002
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 12: in that setting, you're away from the team, you're alone,

1003
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 12: you're rehabbing, and you've been through it already. You know

1004
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 12: the mental toll it takes going forward, That to me

1005
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 12: is what worries me about a setback. Yeah, you know,

1006
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 12: physically I feel great. It takes one wrong move or

1007
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 12: one thing to happen and then physically you're back in

1008
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 12: the can and then mentally it's and I got to

1009
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 12: do this again. I don't know how many more times

1010
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 12: I can do this. And you know, I mean Joe Burt.

1011
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 12: We're talking about you know, Joe Burrow, and we say

1012
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 12: it jokingly. So you're gonna win a three time Comeback

1013
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 12: Player of the Year. You don't want to have that distinction.

1014
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 12: You don't want to be up for the award of

1015
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 12: Comeback Player of the Year threty different times because that

1016
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 12: says you're coming back from major injury CATLA trophy.

1017
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: You want on a Lobarties, which are three yeld parties

1018
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: is better than Yeah.

1019
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 12: The mental side, man, is always what's worried.

1020
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: More than sorry, even when you're doing physic because you're

1021
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: missing out, you're sitting there watching the world go by.

1022
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 3: I mean that's just me.

1023
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: But this guy's, you know, his prime of his career

1024
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: right now, and every game is every game means something

1025
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: because that's less time you're gonna be able to play

1026
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: professional football. Tony Pike and studio is a little bit

1027
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: about that throwing a football. And Joe Burrow now where

1028
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: it sounds like he's going to play on Sunday. At

1029
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: this point, we're just worried about the repercussions. If again,

1030
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 2: maybe you gets stepped down, something happens it Could it

1031
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: be career ending? Could it be debilitating because you if

1032
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: the same thing happens again, you're talking about going in

1033
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: and repairing the same injury. That's going to add time.

1034
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: What happens the off season? Are you throwing away twenty

1035
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: twenty six? Those all have to be going through Zach

1036
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: Tittor's mind as supposed to win in right now? How

1037
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: much do you think a coach weighs that.

1038
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 12: It has to It has to be weighed upon, and

1039
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 12: I think for the timeline the Bengals are on right now.

1040
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 12: If this was Baltimore, or if this was even Buffalo,

1041
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 12: the conversation changes because, let's face it, with no Jamar

1042
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 12: Chase and no Joe Burrow, they're not beating New England.

1043
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 12: Now you're three and eight, and the math just becomes

1044
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 12: almost impossible. There is a space out there of well,

1045
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow is making fifty five million dollars, there's still

1046
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 12: mathematically in it. You have to trust the training staff.

1047
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 12: That to me, is what it comes down to. If

1048
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 12: the the training staff is meeting daily, sometimes multiple times

1049
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 12: a day with the coaching staff. If the training staff

1050
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 12: is saying to me, he's good to go, there's no worry,

1051
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 12: there's no risk here, he's cleared, then I'm playing him.

1052
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 4: Now.

1053
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 12: If this conversation is he can play, but he can't

1054
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 12: do this. He can play, but you got to watch

1055
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 12: out for that, then I'm not running him out there

1056
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 12: because the again, the chance of them running the table

1057
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 12: and getting in is minuscule. The chance. If a trainer

1058
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 12: is telling me, well, of course there's a possibility of

1059
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 12: something here, well, then my mind's it goes to what

1060
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 12: you just outlined of offseason twenty twenty six. You know,

1061
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 12: this team already has enough hurdles to overcome going into

1062
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 12: next year. Already they've got to refit, they've got to

1063
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 12: to address a defense again, they've got to probably address

1064
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 12: a couple questions on the offensive line. If you're worrying

1065
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 12: about quarterback and getting the off season, it's a nightmare.

1066
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 12: But if the training staff, who you trust, is saying

1067
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 12: you're good to go, and that was my thing when

1068
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 12: I played. It took me to hear the training staff

1069
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 12: say you're good, nothing worse can happen. Right, you're good

1070
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 12: to go, then then let's go.

1071
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So but here's let me play a Douvile's avocat

1072
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: because you, as a player, you want to play Tony.

1073
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: I'ms right right, You're gonna run through walls and knowing

1074
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: a little bit about rehab myself, okay, you want to

1075
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: get back to do what you're gonna do.

1076
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: At the end of the day.

1077
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: It's an intangible because isn't the training staff and the

1078
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: doctors aren't the positions, aren't they Despite of the imaging

1079
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: and tests that they do, you still have to take

1080
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: the player's word for it.

1081
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: Does this hurt.

1082
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: Do you as a quarterback and you're like, hey, you

1083
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: know what I really want to play? Do you sometimes

1084
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: go no, that's fine when maybe you're not being fully

1085
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: transparent and would Joe Burrow do that? So at the

1086
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: end of the day, you're just relying on that person

1087
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: who wants to play, who's competitive, and may go it's

1088
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: this a little pain, I don't care. Does that jeopardize us?

1089
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 12: It could, But I think in an injury like this,

1090
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 12: you're doing so many follow up scans and imaging that

1091
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 12: you can see if everything's healed around it. I think

1092
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 12: pain management is a part of what you have to

1093
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 12: do going in anyway, you know that you have to

1094
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 12: manage pain. But I want to know imaging wise, is

1095
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 12: it one hundred percent healed? Is it eighty percent healed?

1096
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 12: Because if it's eighty percent, now we're rolling the dice yes, right,

1097
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 12: So that to me is that conversation. It's similar to

1098
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 12: a conversation. You know, we got the bombshell yesterday from

1099
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 12: Nick Crawl that you know Ellie Davila Cruz was dealing

1100
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 12: with a slight tear. Okay, well, then someone should have

1101
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 12: been operating in Ellie's best interest because in your point, Yes,

1102
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 12: Ellie's not going to say take me out. He wants

1103
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 12: to play one sixty two. Joe Burrow wants to play

1104
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 12: this week. If if there is a chance and you're

1105
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 12: not one hundred percent, then it is you take away.

1106
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 12: I appreciate you. I appreciate you as a competitor wanting

1107
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 12: to be back out here for your teammates. But it's

1108
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 12: not smart medically, then that conversation has to be had.

1109
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 12: But if it's a pain tolerance thing and imaging wise,

1110
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 12: he's clear to go, then I think you go.

1111
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: Is there some culpability with Zach tenn or going, hey,

1112
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: maybe he's ninety percent and my job's on the line.

1113
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 12: Absolutely, And I think that's a fair part about this.

1114
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 12: I mean this is which again is why I was

1115
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 12: taking back a little bit. Hearing Zach with Tom today

1116
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 12: doesn't sound like a coach seven, doesn't sound like a

1117
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 12: coach that doesn't have Jamar Chase. Sounds like a coach

1118
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 12: that feels pretty good, which tells me he feels good

1119
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 12: about where his quarterback is. But yes, there is a

1120
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 12: fine line, and it's where you have to put the

1121
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 12: trust in your coach and your training staff to say yes,

1122
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 12: we do have the best interest in our player in mind,

1123
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 12: because I'm not putting Joe in there. If I have

1124
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 12: to game plan around an injury, you can't do that.

1125
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 12: If you can keep the same game plan, then he plays.

1126
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: This is further out than Joe Burro playing this weekend

1127
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: Tony Pike. But let's say Joe Burrow plays, and let's

1128
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: say okay, places he's good for the rest of the

1129
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: season and they continue to lose.

1130
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: Is that it for Zach to Ed or Duke Tobin?

1131
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: Does that?

1132
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: Then turn that pressure around and go, well, you got

1133
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: QB one back, No more excuses. You still can't win

1134
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: football games, you still can't tackle, you can still can't block,

1135
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: you still can't make, you get your assignments correct?

1136
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: What then?

1137
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 4: Uh?

1138
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 12: Then you're you're You're pushed against the alternate window. I

1139
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 12: always thought this was a different conversation if this team

1140
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 12: is mathematically eliminated, And if it is, then is there

1141
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 12: harm in Joe Burrow playing two more times and then

1142
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 12: shutting him down for the rest of the year, because

1143
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 12: ultimately what he needs is more reps. But again, I

1144
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 12: go back, I go back to the training staff, and

1145
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 12: I was I was lucky with my staff at UC

1146
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 12: that those guys I trusted Bob Manjeen, I trusted Angelo

1147
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 12: Colisimo because at the end of the day, I knew

1148
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 12: that they wanted to win, but the core of everything

1149
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 12: they were about was having my best interest in mind.

1150
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 12: And that's what I continue to go back to With

1151
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow, I don't think that a trainer would say,

1152
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 12: go practice if there was any shot of this not

1153
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 12: being okay. If it's the divisional playoffs, if you're leading

1154
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 12: in or to must win to get into the playoffs,

1155
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 12: then maybe you roll the dice a little bit, okay.

1156
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 12: But the experiences I've had, I fully trust that that

1157
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 12: a trainer and trainers I have would would would not

1158
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 12: put your best interest to to harm just to get

1159
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 12: you back out at you.

1160
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: All right, he's Tony Pike and right now you're going

1161
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 2: he sounds like he's going to play football on Sunday.

1162
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 3: That would be Joe Burrow.

1163
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 2: Uh, that would be incredible considering what he's been through

1164
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: in such a short period of time. And uh, some

1165
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 2: time time, what time tomorrow you think they make the announcement.

1166
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 12: Uh, I believe they will practice. It's a home game,

1167
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 12: so they'll practice probably early afternoon, and then once practice

1168
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 12: wraps up, you'll get that report from Zach se.

1169
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: Time in the afternoon. We expect to hear that Joe

1170
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: Burrow would play on Sunday.

1171
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 12: Yeah, you would. You would at least here he's going

1172
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 12: to be active, and I think that to me is

1173
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 12: a foregone conclusion. You know, you have the full participant

1174
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 12: and you have limited doubtful. You know, so much is

1175
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 12: made about Wednesday and Thursday.

1176
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: When the news about releasing Jake Browning happened first, you

1177
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: would think, so it's because of a Browning.

1178
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 12: Joe, You're about forty percent, but we're gonna need you

1179
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 12: to take every team rep this week while Flo's not

1180
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 12: in there.

1181
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would worry me.

1182
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: Tony Pike and Austin Elmore today at noon on ESPN

1183
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty covering this up and down. Appreciate your brother.

1184
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: Thanks again, the Hall of Famer. Tony Pike on seven

1185
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: hundred W Scott Sloan Show, seven hundred WLW. Here we go,

1186
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: So Thursday mornings, you're bringing our our doctor friend here,

1187
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: the er doctor. Uh he is a doctor, Sanja SHAEFERCERMANI

1188
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: he is we talk about healtha talk food we talk fitness. Uh,

1189
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: and he is right now crushing an energy drink because

1190
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 2: he just got off a shift.

1191
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 13: So hey, don't judge me, don't judge me, but yes, like, oh,

1192
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 13: that's I.

1193
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: Was just talking to someone yesterday who is in the

1194
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: medical field and drinks eight monsters a.

1195
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 3: Day and would not anyway. Cold turkey. That's he's saying,

1196
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: cold turkey.

1197
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 13: How's he feeling?

1198
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: He says, fine, Like, yeah, I was. I was a

1199
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: no headache, no no shakes. You go through the DTS what, Nope,

1200
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: I'm good.

1201
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 13: Just have to take a one week nap. Yeah, yeah,

1202
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 13: I guess fine.

1203
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1204
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do that at all. So

1205
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: before you get in this, I'm gonna put you on

1206
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: the spot. Here'm gonna con audible because we're going to

1207
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: talk about how not to die in Thanksgiving, the Joe

1208
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: Burrow thing with the turf toe and you knowing a

1209
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: little bit about these things and injuries, and like, is

1210
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: it surprise to you he can come back this fast?

1211
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 7: Uh?

1212
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 13: It it is? But I also have my concerns about,

1213
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 13: you know, how well he's going to bounce back. It always,

1214
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 13: you know, the feat We we underestimate how much. We

1215
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 13: need them, even the smallest little things, as we all

1216
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 13: learned through this turf so thing. And so was I

1217
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 13: a little surprised. Yes, am I looking forward to seeing

1218
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 13: him back, Yes.

1219
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: Do I do.

1220
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 13: I hope the best for him, yes, but we'll see

1221
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 13: how you know, I'm definitely not an orthopic surgeon. I

1222
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 13: see these things on the front end. But yeah, foot

1223
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 13: injuries are tough.

1224
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: Man.

1225
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 13: I had an ankle injury. I know you had a

1226
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 13: leg injury, and yep, they take they take a while,

1227
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 13: so he won't be one hundred percent, but hopefully he's

1228
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 13: got enough and it'll hold up.

1229
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't think of that too, like I've

1230
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 2: heard if you, for example, if you have your your

1231
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: pinky toe, if that, if you lose that, it's difficult

1232
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: to walk right. That's just a little you're like, there's

1233
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: no way, but it's true.

1234
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, you figure you don't need that. Stupid at the end,

1235
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 13: but it's it's more important than we think. And it's

1236
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 13: just it's you know, our balance and everything, just sensation

1237
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 13: and knowing where we are. It's all very important in

1238
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 13: ways we don't even recognize until, of course it's gone.

1239
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: If you had to choose one to lose. Pinky toe,

1240
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: pinky finger, pinky toe for sure, Oh to toe.

1241
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 13: Okay, my feet are already messed up, like you might

1242
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 13: as well just go further. I need these little these

1243
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 13: little piggies on my hands.

1244
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: Fantastic, fantastic, all right, he's got his monster and I

1245
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: just trip by the way yesterday and studio. I had

1246
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: our friends from Dorothy Lane Market and Mason and they

1247
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: brought a bunch of food. And I'm a pecan pie guy.

1248
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: You're a peacan by I'm telling you, the best peacan

1249
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: pie I've ever had Dorothy Lean Market.

1250
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 4: Check it.

1251
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: I got to do it.

1252
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 13: I've only been once to the new location, but I

1253
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:03,959
Speaker 13: have to go.

1254
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: Back then by like I live down there with and

1255
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: it's like every time I go by, there's no parking spots.

1256
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: So I'll come back later and then there's again no

1257
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: parking spots. Just why because everything's good there. Yeah, so

1258
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: it's phenomenal. Just don't make pecan pie yourself. That was

1259
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: my mistake.

1260
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 13: Knowing what is inside of pecan pie ruined it for

1261
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 13: the rest of my life. But I just choose to

1262
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 13: ignore it.

1263
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: The reason I love having sign Jaane is because he's

1264
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: a doctor, but you know he's we talk about fitness

1265
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: and health and exercise and all these things. What it

1266
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: all comes together. And normally the reason I love you

1267
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: is because you're not Tom Brady. Do you like if

1268
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 2: you eat carbohydrates, you're drinking energy drinks, you have pecan pie,

1269
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: you you don't just eat avocados?

1270
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1271
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 13: Oh no, It's all about balance and I usually tip

1272
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 13: the wrong way with balance.

1273
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 3: But you know that's why we go to the gym,

1274
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: right right? All right? Yeah, a little restraint. Do you

1275
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: lose your mind on Thanksgiving?

1276
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 13: Uh? Lose my mind?

1277
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 3: How well do you eat yourself in a food coma?

1278
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 13: Ah? It is my favorite haul. I have to do it.

1279
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 13: And it's it's not like turkey is just turkey is there,

1280
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 13: but it's like the vehicle to have the excuse to

1281
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 13: eat all the sides. And so yeah, I eat myself

1282
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 13: usually kind of silly, but it's it's stuffing for me

1283
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 13: like that is my is. My one weakness is well dressing.

1284
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 13: Now I've learned the difference between the two.

1285
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 3: It's dressing. Yeah, dressing, that's a gravy on that.

1286
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1287
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the starches are I try to avoid carb but

1288
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: I mean carbs are really the cornerstone you talk about Trinky,

1289
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: You're right. Carbohydrates is what drive Thanksgiving. It exactly, that's

1290
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: what we're there. So why do we why do we

1291
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: pass out? Because you hear that, Well, let's trip to

1292
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: fan in the in the Turkey it makes you sleepy.

1293
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: But it's it's the carbs, isn't it.

1294
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 13: It is the carbs. So yeah, that's a it's a

1295
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 13: common misconception. We all blame the trip to fan, which

1296
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 13: has a part, but actually, you know, chicken and beef

1297
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 13: has as much trip to fan as Turkey does. So, uh,

1298
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 13: trip to Fan gets a bad rap as far as

1299
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 13: Thanksgiving goes. But what happens is we have these big

1300
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 13: meals and the insulin spikes because we eat so much carb. Uh,

1301
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 13: and then the trip to Fan has a chance then

1302
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 13: to work on our brain. So yes, there's a place there.

1303
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 13: But it's not that Turkey's bringing it. It's the it's

1304
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 13: the size that are bringing it. Uh, with the with

1305
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 13: all the carbs, and then your insulin allows.

1306
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: Everything to gohare and you had a couple of slices

1307
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: of pecan pie on top of that, and it's over.

1308
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: Game, all done. Yes see on Saturday.

1309
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: Can you do you see people in the er that

1310
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: eat so much they show up? And what does that

1311
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: look like? Can you do the food coma and you

1312
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: actually have to be transported?

1313
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 13: Yes, very much so, and you know you so there's

1314
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 13: a there's a general lull through the day as far

1315
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 13: as Thanksgiving goes. I think the stats are like twenty

1316
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 13: five percent less patients on Thanksgiving Day. But you know,

1317
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 13: when the meals are ending, it's it's six or seven o'clock,

1318
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 13: and you'll see the spike of people that come in,

1319
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 13: and it's usually with either chest pain or like really

1320
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 13: bad bloating. And most of the time, most of the

1321
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 13: time it's just because they over ate, right, But I

1322
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 13: you know, I sympathize with that man, like I've done

1323
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 13: it to myself for sure, Okay, And so yeah, some

1324
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 13: sometimes patients do come in purely because they eat too much,

1325
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 13: and I love them for it.

1326
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: Can you eat yourself into an unstable heart rhythm?

1327
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 5: Uh?

1328
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 13: So yes, So you could eat yourself to a point

1329
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 13: where you've stressed your body so much that it can

1330
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 13: cause a mind or heart attack and then cause and

1331
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 13: arrhythmia from that. So yes, And if you have you know,

1332
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 13: six ten ten monster energy drinks while having your turkey,

1333
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 13: you can also go into an unstable heart rhythm. But

1334
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 13: the interesting part is that the rate of heart attacks

1335
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 13: actually goes up on Thanksgiving Day, which is interesting because

1336
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 13: it's family drive you crazy. It is a big part

1337
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 13: of its Sorry mom, if you're listening, but like, yeah,

1338
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 13: family stress us up right right, which increases our cortisol,

1339
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 13: which increases all the other things and can cause spasm

1340
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 13: of the arteries to the heart and you know, lead

1341
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 13: to heart attacks sometimes. So it's this, it's the stress

1342
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 13: for one. It's also the massive you know meal that

1343
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 13: we have, which also strains our body. There's several things

1344
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 13: that can go into increase in heart attacks. But yes,

1345
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 13: family and stress is part of it.

1346
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: At alcohol, you got all sorts of problems in there.

1347
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: And is that typically what you see presenting the hor

1348
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving day after?

1349
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: It's going to be art related issues initially.

1350
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, So Thursday sometimes for friday's your your Black Friday

1351
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 13: incidents and those can vary how they look.

1352
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 3: But related injured or shopping related injuries.

1353
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 13: Yes, Okay, so you're gonna see a lot of things

1354
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 13: from Black Friday, but usually so Thursday you're going to

1355
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 13: see your early afternoon wave of your injuries. So like

1356
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 13: cooking injuries because a lot of people are getting into

1357
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 13: the kitchen that usually aren't there or trying to cook

1358
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 13: for four thousand people, and so they're less careful. Burns lacerations, yes, again,

1359
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 13: so burns we see more from oil frying, so be careful.

1360
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 13: I'd advise you probably not to oil frier. Turkey problem

1361
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 13: being that water hitting the oil creates big explosions sometimes,

1362
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 13: so you want your turkey to be really dry and

1363
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 13: free of ice, so completely thought and dry before putting

1364
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 13: on the oil.

1365
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: But overall, how do you make.

1366
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: Your turkey oven? Yeah, I just school may get a

1367
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 2: small one smoke at time to time.

1368
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 13: But yeah, yeah, the oil thing, I had it once

1369
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 13: and I was like, I mean, I guess the idea

1370
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 13: is cool, but it just doesn't taste any day.

1371
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: I because you know, if you want to do it

1372
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: and get a bunch of buddies together and then go

1373
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: in on the oil and the cooking. So because it's

1374
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: such a pain in the ass to just do it,

1375
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 2: and it takes like forty five minutes, you know it's done,

1376
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: but you got all oil left over and stuff.

1377
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 3: You know what, do you do it right? Make a

1378
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: couple of two three turkeys and you're good, all.

1379
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: Right, So there's that element too, and I think you

1380
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 2: know again it's Sanjay cherv Primani and studio this morning

1381
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: are our eur physician and health guy talking about how

1382
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: not to die in Thanksgiving, which is very important.

1383
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: Choke. You can see a lot of choking in the hour.

1384
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: Is it over by the time, Yeah, not too much,

1385
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: I think in your throat something.

1386
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 13: I mean, Fortunately, the turkey bones are pretty big, so

1387
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 13: we don't see too much of that. We do see again, Uh,

1388
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 13: knife injuries in the kitchen, that's a big thing on

1389
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 13: Thanksgiving Day. Mandolin slicers are my enemy because you can

1390
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 13: imagine with those things if you don't know what they are,

1391
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 13: they're multiple blades in a row, so they just cause

1392
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 13: these weird patterns of injury where you can't really bring

1393
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 13: the wound back together, so you're it's line after line

1394
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 13: or the fingertip just goes. So be careful with your mandolins,

1395
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 13: keep your knife sharp, you ale minimize.

1396
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: I've got one use al holder. Don't try to get

1397
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: all that potato.

1398
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, we see potatoes stream all the time.

1399
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 13: It's always the potato because you glance off of it

1400
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 13: with your dull blades, So keep them, keep them sharp

1401
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 13: through it.

1402
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 3: One percent, one hundred percent. What about food poisoning.

1403
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 13: Big big, So we usually see the food poison income

1404
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 13: later on, at least, you know, a day or two afterwards.

1405
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 13: But it's not impossible. So that's a double negative. It's

1406
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 13: it's possible to get food poison on the day of.

1407
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 13: So you want to make sure you're cooking your turkey.

1408
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 13: That's going to be your biggest culprit. Cook it well.

1409
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 13: You want it to get a one hundred and sixty

1410
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 13: five degrees internally, so check that thing because there there's

1411
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 13: so variable because your birds so big. So if you're

1412
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 13: making a turkey, you know, get it to one sixty five.

1413
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 13: But then you know, you leave that bird out for

1414
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 13: a couple hours and bacteria starts growing inside of it too,

1415
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 13: So be careful even just letting it sit out on

1416
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 13: the counter for a couple hours and then going in

1417
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 13: for a little bit more. Yes, try to warm that

1418
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 13: up before you eat it again, because once you get

1419
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 13: down to like one hundred and forty degrees, that bacteria

1420
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 13: starts growing and gotcha gotcha, Okay, good, then that's important.

1421
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: Sides, you have to worry about that as much, less.

1422
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 13: So unless there's meats in them or creams. So dairy

1423
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 13: stuff will carry stuff, and that's that's going to be

1424
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 13: the food poisoning that hits you fast, so you'll know

1425
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 13: if you have that. But usually the food poisoning from

1426
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 13: you know, turkey and stuff, that's going to take a

1427
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 13: while to hate you. And so we usually see a

1428
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 13: bump over the weekend Saturday, Sunday, Monday of the food poisoning,

1429
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 13: both from delayed presentations, from eating the food on that day,

1430
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 13: or eating leftovers and not warming them up, or just

1431
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 13: leftovers gone bad.

1432
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 3: How long can that shellfish be out? The shrimp? The shrimp.

1433
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 13: It as long as there was refrigerated. Well, I would

1434
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 13: say probably, you know, a couple hours is what you're

1435
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 13: looking at.

1436
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's as you have to have an

1437
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: ice usually that goes pretty fast. But all right, do

1438
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: I know it's food poisoning not something else?

1439
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:13,479
Speaker 6: Oh?

1440
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 3: Good question.

1441
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 13: It's it's oftentimes hard for us to know too. But

1442
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 13: usually food poisoning is going to have stuff coming up,

1443
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 13: both up and down. It may start with vomiting, but

1444
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 13: then you get it from the from the rear as well,

1445
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 13: so oftentimes that'll be it. But things to look out

1446
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 13: for would be stuff like fever, some abdominal pain, blood

1447
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 13: in your poop, and just overall not feeling good. But

1448
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 13: even food poisoning alone can throw us for a loop.

1449
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 13: So if you're feeling crappy and you think this is

1450
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 13: just food poisoning, but if you're still feeling bad, a

1451
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 13: lot of fluid. Little fluid can do a lot of good,

1452
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 13: So it's always worth it if you're feeling poorly to

1453
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 13: get checked out.

1454
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: Okay, but I mean you imagine it home, if you've

1455
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: realized that it's probably food poisoning because everyone else is

1456
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 2: coming down with it, it's like all you could do

1457
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: is hydrate and rest and.

1458
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 13: Point at the person who made that dish because they clearly.

1459
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: They killed you. Yeah this point too, so well with

1460
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 3: all the dishes. You don't know who is a culprit

1461
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 3: at that point, but it's true. Typically just blame the turkey.

1462
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 3: I always blame that.

1463
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 2: I blame that. It's always a chef's fault. So anyway,

1464
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: he is a Sonja Schevcrimani. He is a er physician.

1465
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: Also he's our fitness guy here and a health guy

1466
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: in the Scott Slane Show on seven hundred WLW Everything

1467
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: you need to know about Thanksgiving and how not to

1468
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 2: kill yourself. We kind of did this, I know with

1469
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: Halloween too, is like how do I prevent going to

1470
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: the er and kids running and you know, stuff like that.

1471
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: But this one's a little more complex because everyone's getting together.

1472
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: It's fascinating the stress element along with Thanksgiving, the food

1473
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: and the stress together. You see a lot of people

1474
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: with heart arrhythmia, sometimes heart attacks.

1475
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 13: Even we see the heart stuff and now you know,

1476
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 13: I don't know if the viruses have figured it out,

1477
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 13: but they're ramping up just in time for families to

1478
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,439
Speaker 13: be close together in a tight environment. So I worked

1479
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 13: a shift yesterday for only seven hours and I saw

1480
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,959
Speaker 13: at least fifteen people with like head colds. So it's

1481
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 13: coming around, and you know, it was everything. Were starting

1482
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 13: to see flu yet started to see a little bit

1483
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 13: of flu. Actually seeing a bigger spike in COVID recently.

1484
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 13: No one terribly sick sick from it, but certainly not

1485
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 13: feeling great. Uh So we're seeing just a kind of

1486
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 13: smattering of everything is COVID.

1487
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: Now that we're five years past this, are we say,

1488
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,959
Speaker 2: is it's starting to be less severe, like less life

1489
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: threatening overall.

1490
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 13: Yes, I mean that first couple of years we were

1491
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 13: expecting patients not to make it a lot of the time.

1492
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 13: We're still seeing that on occasion, but yes, it's it's

1493
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 13: become milder as far as its presentation overall. But you know,

1494
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 13: if you're elderly, if you're you know, if your health

1495
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 13: immune system isn't very good, there's a good chance that

1496
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,479
Speaker 13: it is gonna it could cause some serious problem.

1497
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're seeing RSV now too at the end

1498
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: of the health department. I'll probably have them on next week,

1499
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: could talk about this. That's a big one.

1500
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1501
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 13: RSV is is big, especially young and old, especially patients

1502
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 13: with lung disease too. It can really cause asthma to

1503
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 13: be severe and cause you know, I saw a couple

1504
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 13: of cases last year of RSV causing respiratory failures. So yeah,

1505
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 13: it's another one to watch out for. Just you know,

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 13: when it comes to food prep and being around your family,

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Speaker 13: just make sure you're washing your hands often and being careful.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sonja, good to see you man. Have a

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01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 2: great Thanksgiving. Always appreciate coming on Thursdays the best. Enjoy

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01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: about you too. I got a time out in and

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Speaker 2: more to follow here at eleven oh six on the

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Speaker 2: show on seven hundred ww He is a local polster,

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01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton. You hear about this is new numbers coming out,

1514
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: and again it's just some new numbers. But if you

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Speaker 2: took it the aggregate, looked at the average here, it's

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Speaker 2: pretty frightening if you're a Republican. Just how wonderwater the

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01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: party is, particularly the president right now? Can you reverse

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01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: course before midterms? That's the big question. We'll see what's

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01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: inside the numbers. With Kevin just ahead on the Home

1520
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Speaker 2: of the Best Bengals coverage, will Joe Burrow play It's

1521
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: looking likely more likely than not at this point. We'll

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Speaker 2: continue to follow that for you this morning on the

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Speaker 2: Home of the Best Bengals Coverage seven hundred WWT Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to be in a Mafican idiot, Scott flowing

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Speaker 1: back on seven hundred w WELW.

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Speaker 2: The last time Democrats on numbers as good was twenty seventeen,

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01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: So what eight years ago go before they will up

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01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: the Republicans in the twenty eighteen midterm got like what

1529
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: forty forty one seats in the House. And this is

1530
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Speaker 2: coming off news and latest polling here with President Trump

1531
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: becoming increasingly popular, unpipolar, I should say, his approval rating

1532
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: is dipping into the thirties right now. And you know,

1533
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: you look at the Democrats and then maybe the wind

1534
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 2: in their sail right now, but is it sustainable? And

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01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 2: if you're a Republican too, how do you look at

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01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: this and go, maybe this guy isn't falling, But at

1537
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: the same time, how do you reverse course before the

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Speaker 2: midterms next year? On that's Kevin Burtney's a pollster with

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01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: Crosstown Consulting right in northern Kentucky. His candidates went six

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Speaker 2: for six on election Day Tuesday. Kevin, welcome back.

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Speaker 14: Hause, life pretty good, Scott, thanks for having me.

1542
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the pulling in again, it's one poll, but

1543
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm looking at I tend to look at the aggregate

1544
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: polling and come up with an average of the averages

1545
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: fifty five percent of voters at elect a Democratic candidate

1546
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 2: right now compared to forty one percent it out for

1547
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: Republican And that's a generic ballot. Obviously, we'll get into

1548
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: why that's important or not important a second, but fourteen

1549
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: point lead right now. And we saw this last since

1550
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: November twenty seventeen in the mid term explosion by Democrats

1551
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: at this point. And this is despite the fact that

1552
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer, Senate minority leader, just shut the government down,

1553
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 2: a backfire on him terribly. But at the same time,

1554
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: even with that, they're moving forward here. Kevin Trump's job

1555
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: approval rating is I think twelve points underwater, twelve to

1556
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: fourteen depending on the poll of the job six and

1557
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: ten believe America is on the wrong track. Is that

1558
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 2: overcomeable in the next year?

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Speaker 14: I mean Trump, I think we need to look that

1560
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 14: Trump's only won two elections when there were women on

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01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 14: the ballot. Every other time he has lost. You know,

1562
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 14: Trump had the benefit of, frankly, being the backup quarterback.

1563
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 4: Where you're the most popular.

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01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 14: Person in town, and when they when you get thrust

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 14: it in into the spot, people realized why you were

1566
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 14: the backup. He's bleeding numbers.

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01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 3: You're talking, I.

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01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 14: Got it exactly, like yeah in Perio if that sounds great,

1569
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 14: And then you're like, oh, well, that's why he is

1570
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 14: bleeding support and independence.

1571
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 4: Right now?

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 14: Independents are breaking sixty one of them, twenty eight percent

1573
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 14: of Republicans. And we've talked about this before. Those are

1574
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 14: the people who decide the election. And then going back

1575
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 14: a year ago, Harrison only won the Hispanic vote by

1576
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 14: plus two. Donald Trump has dropped forty four points in

1577
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 14: the last year in the Hispanic community.

1578
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Speaker 4: Now, listen, we don't.

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Speaker 14: Know how they're going to redraw all of these house

1580
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 14: districts because both sides are being idiot, So we don't

1581
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 14: know the total numbers that's going to get lost. But

1582
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 14: Americans see that prices aren't going down, period, and it's

1583
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 14: the economy.

1584
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's always the economy, stupid, right, How

1585
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: accurate is that?

1586
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 4: Though?

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01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 2: You know I talked about generic bill to generic ball let,

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 2: they're up fourteen points, okay, but versus actual outcomes, how

1589
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 2: predictive is plus fourteen plus twelve whatever? It is twelve

1590
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: months out from the twenty twenty six midterms.

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Speaker 14: So it's always important to remember when you see the

1592
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:23,440
Speaker 14: generic ballot, just how the maps are and everything Democrats

1593
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 14: has to be up about plus that then before it

1594
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 14: really makes a difference. So that's where you should always

1595
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 14: look at. You know, there's still a year away. Like,

1596
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 14: you know, if he passes out two thousand dollars checks,

1597
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 14: does that shrink it? Probably yes.

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01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 4: But we're also going.

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Speaker 14: To get into the holiday season, so I predict that

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01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 14: his numbers are going to drop a little bit even

1601
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 14: more because people are going to be trying to pay

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01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,520
Speaker 14: for you know, Christmas, Thanksgiving.

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01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 14: Is that actually really quite Because in his first term,

1605
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 14: people loved what he did in the economy, hated what

1606
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 14: he did in foreign affairs. It's the exact opposite this time,

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 14: right right.

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 2: And I think Marjorie Taylor Green with his you know,

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01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 2: the breakup between mom and dad, so to speak, and

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01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: I think she scored some really good points with us

1611
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: and saying, listen, you know you're entertaining Saudi's and the

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01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 2: White House, and you're on these trips abroad, and what

1613
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: about the economy. It's supposed to you know, make America

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01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: great again and focus only on America, and you're not

1615
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: doing that. So even with core Trump supporters, that's starting

1616
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: to fall out, that's eating away and talking about this

1617
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: huge gap ortoe with a polling.

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 14: You know, people see that everyone is suffering, and you know,

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01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 14: I kind of did this yesterday. How many years do

1620
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 14: you think Steph Curry would have to play to match

1621
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 14: how much Elon Musk is worth.

1622
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 2: That's a really interesting question. Three hundred thousand years, eight

1623
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 2: and two hundred years, eight thousand years.

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 14: I was close, so always put that into his perspective,

1625
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 14: that that's how rich. And you know, I think people

1626
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,520
Speaker 14: are finally getting to the point like, look and like billionaires,

1627
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 14: that's fine, but now we're talking about trillionaires and we

1628
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 14: have people who can't afford bills and everything. At a

1629
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 14: certain point we need to turn around and look, right,

1630
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 14: you know, we're the greatest country in the world, and

1631
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 14: we have so many people living paycheck to headshacks. It's

1632
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 14: a systematic breakdown on all fronts. And you know we're

1633
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,480
Speaker 14: giving forty billion dollars Argentina.

1634
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 3: Was that right, right? And I think it was core.

1635
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: Of course, A port is like looking at that, going, well,

1636
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: what about what about me? What about you know, all

1637
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,839
Speaker 2: these things are going to do for me? And I see,

1638
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: you know, the tariffs and stuff, it's really not coming home.

1639
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean, now we're subsidizing farmers, which is you know

1640
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 2: what we're we just shut the government down over which

1641
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 2: was more subsidy.

1642
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 3: I guess it's you know, if the subsidies.

1643
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,839
Speaker 2: For someone on your team, it's not a subsidy somehow,

1644
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton, the thirty three point Democratic advantage independent voters

1645
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 2: is not a gap, it's a chasm. I mean, it's

1646
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 2: a canyon. It's bottom of the Grand Canyon. Walk us through.

1647
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: What would cause independence to break this heart against the party.

1648
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 2: You mentioned the economy, but there's got to be more

1649
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,879
Speaker 2: to it than that exactly.

1650
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 14: And then the whole immigration stance, you know, it turned

1651
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 14: out as a very favorable thing for Trump. I don't

1652
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 14: know any reasonable person who would be like, you know,

1653
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 14: if they were here illegally, they've come in a felony. Yeah,

1654
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 14: they need to get the heck out of the country.

1655
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 14: Everyone agrees on that. When you are taking kids who

1656
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 14: are seventeen years old who came here, I just in America.

1657
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 14: You're seeing this, and I don't know if you've seen

1658
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 14: what's happening in North Carolina. They had thirty thousand students

1659
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 14: walk out. And North Carolina is not California, it is

1660
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 14: not New York, it's not Illinois. So when you're starting

1661
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 14: to see swings to be like, hey, guys, come on,

1662
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 14: this is this is a little much between that factor

1663
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 14: and the economy. People are just tired. You know, we

1664
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 14: lived this eight years ago. That people are like, we

1665
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 14: just go listen, sweepy. Joe was sleepy for a reason.

1666
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 14: You know, he was born, he didn't do much. And

1667
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 14: it's the exact opposite of Trump, where every day, every day, uh,

1668
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 14: it's just something new.

1669
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1670
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 2: The Epstein files on top of that, fighting this whole

1671
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: thing and then coming out on saying fine, I saw it.

1672
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 3: I allegedly signed it yesterday.

1673
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: But you know, we're also skeptical, going, okay, well, how

1674
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: much redaction is going to occur here? And are you

1675
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: just going to cross up the names of Republicans and

1676
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: leave Democrats out hanging. Someone said that you don't want

1677
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 2: to go arrest Bill and Hillary. It's a little presumptuous

1678
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: at this point, considering that Bill wasn't even that that

1679
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: bubble wasn't the same bubble ligedly that was.

1680
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 14: Well, And the bigger thing I'm looking at at the

1681
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 14: Epstein is the break from the Republicans. The dam was breaking,

1682
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 14: and for you know, Donald Trump has had the pulse

1683
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 14: on the Republican Party for the last decade, decade and

1684
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 14: a half. When it came to the Epstein file, he

1685
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 14: was dead wrong.

1686
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 4: And is this.

1687
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 14: You know, is this the lame duck president to see

1688
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 14: that we're starting to see or is this a one

1689
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 14: off the Epstein file. They misplayed this so poorly that,

1690
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 14: you know, do they ever recover from this? And with

1691
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 14: the reaction and everything, you've already thowed the seeds of

1692
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 14: doubt into everyone. They needed to fire someone immediately when

1693
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 14: the public.

1694
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 4: Backlash happened right away. Yeah, I mean, it was.

1695
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 14: Clear to see that this wasn't going away. So you

1696
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 14: add in, you know, Epstein, the economy, the ice rays.

1697
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 14: I don't see a way coming back from it unless

1698
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 14: magically all the care iff money everyone starts getting two

1699
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 14: thousand dollars checks every month.

1700
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 2: Right right, But even then that's going to still cause

1701
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 2: people like me to cringe because that's supposed to be

1702
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 2: paying the deficit down. That was the important point of

1703
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 2: this thing. And isn't that just another subsidy? So if

1704
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: you're against the ACA subsidies, how could you be for

1705
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 2: this subsidy?

1706
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 3: And that's what it is.

1707
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: He's Kevin Burton Upholster with Crosstown Consulting in Cincinnati and

1708
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: northern Kentucky and talking about the disturbing numbers who are Republican.

1709
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: And this is just I don't think it's shocking, but

1710
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,560
Speaker 2: I think the gap is shocking. That Trump is underwater significantly,

1711
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: his ratings in the thirties right now, but on a

1712
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: generic ballot, a Democrat would win handily right now if

1713
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: your Democrats be Republican. If you're talking about the party,

1714
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 2: Democrats are up fifty five right now, and that number

1715
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: continues to grow every week. And again I'm just looking

1716
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: at the aggregate's not the latest, and it's if you're

1717
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: a Republican, you must be concerned right now. And this

1718
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: is even with Chuck Schumer doing we did to shut

1719
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Speaker 2: the government down, and you know, even and you know,

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01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 2: to be fair, it's I look at the alternative here,

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01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 2: and I mean, look what's happened in New York City

1722
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: with Mondami and the move towards socialism because that party

1723
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 2: is struggling. They're talking about Hakeem Jefferies getting, you know,

1724
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: being shown the Dora because he is a you know,

1725
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: part of the establishment, and the new way for the

1726
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 2: left is progressivism and specifically socialism. And now you're having

1727
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 2: all these candidates that are going to try to repeat

1728
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 2: with MANDAMMI did across the country. That's not good for

1729
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: the establishment Democrats. Not like they don't have problems either.

1730
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Speaker 14: Well, and this is no different than what we saw

1731
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 14: fifteen years ago.

1732
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 4: With the Tea Party movement.

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01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 14: You know, for what is it Newton's third law? For

1734
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 14: every action there's an equal for opposite reaction. And you're

1735
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 14: seeing this. You know, Nancy Pelosi has said that she's

1736
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 14: no longer running. Democrats are, and it's no different than

1737
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 14: what we saw with the Republicans. You know, they're tired

1738
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 14: of the status quo. They're not happy there, and that's

1739
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 14: why you're seeing all of these you know, Nazylo, the

1740
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 14: Dick Durbin all exiting. I mean, how King Jeffrey is

1741
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 14: getting a primary opponent now, I mean Chuck Shimmer would

1742
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 14: would any of us be shocked?

1743
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 5: Now?

1744
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 14: The thing about Mandannie is he's one of one. I

1745
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 14: don't care who you are. He has Aura riz or

1746
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 14: whatever the kid can call it.

1747
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 4: The day.

1748
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 14: He is one of one. You know, it's like how

1749
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 14: Trump or Obama that like you you can't recreate it,

1750
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 14: you know, like you just sure you can't.

1751
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 3: But you had people who copy.

1752
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 2: I mean, how many people ran like, hey, you know,

1753
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: here's a picture of me with Trump and I'm a

1754
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 2: Trump conservative Magan. A lot of people ran in one

1755
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: office on that, and certainly they're pale in comparison to

1756
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: the genuine article. I think the same is probably true

1757
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 2: with Mandami, although he's just Mayor of New York right now.

1758
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,799
Speaker 2: But you wonder in the next four to eight years,

1759
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: what happens if the political wins don't change.

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01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 3: Is that fair?

1761
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 14: And I think we talked about the really early on

1762
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 14: when you asked me about AOC and I said, you know,

1763
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 14: if history repeats itself, we would have the most progressive

1764
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 14: president since FDR. And it's looking that way. Who the

1765
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 14: Democrats will nominate. You know, it's counterintuitive because everyone's like, well,

1766
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 14: they should run to the middle, they should run to

1767
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 14: the middle. That's exactly what we were saying about Republicans

1768
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 14: after the loss of Mitt Romney. But the one thing

1769
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 14: that Donald Trump has brought is if you can get

1770
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 14: your supporters out, it frankly doesn't matter about the other side.

1771
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 14: So if you can turn out your base, and we

1772
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 14: saw this with Mindannie, there's no other way. It's the

1773
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 14: easiest way to win an election. And that's the one

1774
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 14: thing Donald Trump has tapped into that He's shown kind

1775
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 14: of politics that it's not really crossing over, it's just

1776
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 14: getting every last person in the world who believes in you,

1777
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 14: and just getting them to the polls.

1778
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Speaker 2: Kevin Burton, pollster on the show this morning and talking

1779
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: about the startling poll if you're a Republican that Trump

1780
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: is underwater and the parties underwater for that matter, right

1781
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: now and headed towards midterms in less than a year,

1782
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 2: which politically is not much time at all. This could

1783
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: be the biggest win for Democrats since twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.

1784
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: And it's to scare you if you are on the

1785
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 2: right or right leaning of the case. May be because

1786
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: it's starting to unravel here and the promises made have

1787
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: not been promises kept to this point on many things,

1788
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: and yet on others there's a lot of success there.

1789
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't get the credit for. I think also, are

1790
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 2: we seeing a generational shift here with voters that the

1791
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 2: young people actually, I mean Madonmee got young people to

1792
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: turn out to vote. Now, New York City's outliers, not

1793
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: Cincinnati or Dayton or Louisville or Indianapolis. But nonetheless, I

1794
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 2: think you got to pay attention to this. I think

1795
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: it's also changed too that you know, I keep hearing

1796
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 2: about from conservatives about how it's the media's fault.

1797
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 3: The media, the media.

1798
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,919
Speaker 2: The only people consuming media and are talking about ABC,

1799
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: NBCCBS and Fox largely are very very old people. And

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01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 2: then old people love cable news. Younger voters don't care

1801
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 2: about any of that stuff. So say this is all

1802
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 2: in the media twisting things. The people who are voting

1803
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: are the people who got Mondanian office, and the young

1804
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 2: voters are talking about here are getting their news from

1805
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: social media and and very defsive and by the way,

1806
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: in partisan partisan influencers. So you know, that whole model

1807
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 2: is it's it's kind of tired to blame everything on

1808
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 2: the media.

1809
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 14: I legacy media honestly is kind of irrelevant. I mean

1810
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 14: it is because you say, to your point, it's one

1811
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 14: old people, sorry, old people, some one to watch yeh

1812
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 14: watch TV. Well, you're not going to change your mind.

1813
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 14: You've already made up your mind. Statistically speaking, if you

1814
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 14: have voted one way for the last seven elections, you're

1815
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 14: going to vote the same way when Donnie. Just like

1816
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 14: how Trump tapped into Twitter, he tapped in TikTok. And

1817
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 14: that's to be really fascinating to see because every election

1818
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 14: there's a new technology.

1819
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 4: You know.

1820
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 14: Obama was the first to tap into YouTube, the first

1821
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 14: to tap into Facebook. Trump was the first to tappen

1822
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:17,879
Speaker 14: to Twitter, TikTok. You know, it's gonna be really interesting

1823
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 14: to see this next election. Who goes quote unquote viral.

1824
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 14: Who can really get the the young vote, because you know,

1825
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 14: the young vote is always the promise of tomorrow that

1826
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 14: when you're trying to win an election, you think you

1827
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 14: know you're gonna get them. But it's also a fool's gold.

1828
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 14: You know, for every campaign that wins, there's two campaigns that.

1829
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 4: Bet everything on the young vote.

1830
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 14: Yep, So always be cautious about the young vote.

1831
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton, Pollster, Crossdown Consulting. Always appreciate the fabulous insight

1832
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 2: in the nonpartisan look at what's behind the numbers here

1833
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 2: at the polling. Thanks again, brother, I have a great Thanksgiving.

1834
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

1835
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 14: Thank you, Scott, have a great one.

1836
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: Care can you reverse course here with this thing? I

1837
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: don't know these numbers are yeah, you go? Oh, I

1838
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 2: don't believe the polls, well, don't believe them to your

1839
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 2: own detriment. But clearly you got to focus on what

1840
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 2: you got elected on, and that is making America great again.

1841
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: Now attacking Venezuela for whatever reason, having the Saudi princes

1842
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 2: come in, I don't know why some of this other

1843
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 2: noise focus on. Focus on the economy. You know, you

1844
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: talked about the tariffs working and pretty clearly for all

1845
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 2: the majority of the people pulled anyway, it's not at

1846
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: this point. I think healthcare is another one you could

1847
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 2: really do something about, and you've neglected that for fifteen years.

1848
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 2: We'll see Sloaney seven hundred WW.

1849
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:37,880
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1850
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1851
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1852
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1853
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Speaker 11: Morning, House things, Hey, good morning, it's almost afternoon.

1854
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 6: I'm ready for lunch.

1855
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 3: Nothing yet, buys you? Matt Locke, Oh shut up, jeez.

1856
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 11: Okay, this is the small talk portion of our program today.

1857
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 3: That's why I married her. Sharp as a cue ball.

1858
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 2: Hey, this is we did something we normally don't do

1859
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 2: and I hate doing it, but actually, this time, I

1860
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 2: don't know why, it felt so good to put our

1861
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 2: Christmas decorations up early. Normally where I want to respect

1862
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 2: Turkey and not do anything before the tur Birth of Thanksgiving,

1863
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: but I said, you know what, f itt uh, let's

1864
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: put our decorations up in the new house. And you know,

1865
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 2: I think maybe with all the turmoil in our lives

1866
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 2: and everyone's lives these days, and handwringing and concern about

1867
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 2: the future and what's going on, you know, there's comfort

1868
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 2: in the holidays. So hopefully you get comfort in the holidays.

1869
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 2: I know some people don't, but we do, and that's

1870
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: why we decided to go early on it.

1871
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 11: We did last weekend, I mean, two weeks before Thanksgiving,

1872
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 11: which is crazy. But at the same time, you know,

1873
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 11: Thanksgiving is late this year, at least it feels later

1874
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 11: than normal. I don't know, it's the same.

1875
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I feel later. I guess.

1876
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 11: I don't know, no, but it's it's always nice because

1877
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 11: once we put the tree up, the lights stay on

1878
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 11: the entire season, so it's it's a good thing.

1879
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 3: I will say this.

1880
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: There is of all the inventions out there, little gimmicks

1881
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: and things like that that's in need of is has

1882
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 2: anyone successfully ever been able to put the angel or

1883
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 2: the star atop the tree in less than an hour

1884
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 2: to get it to the sit straight. It has been

1885
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: since the dawn of time, since the first Christmas tree

1886
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: was up, somebody's always tried to put the star on top,

1887
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 2: and it's always crooked. And you spend fifteen minutes trying

1888
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 2: to get that thing out here on the ladder or

1889
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 2: a chair, and you're gonna fall over, and then your

1890
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: spouse is turn it.

1891
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 3: To that light no more, your left, no the other way.

1892
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 2: And it just evolves into you know, you bought a

1893
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: new star for the top of the tree because.

1894
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 6: The other star would never sit right.

1895
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: Well, my angel, And what happened was we had the

1896
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: agel and I was trying to get that straight, and

1897
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 2: I've got mad and fired it across the room and

1898
01:25:58,400 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: I broke our So I just I'm probably going to

1899
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 2: hell for that, destroying an angel. But nonetheless, she had

1900
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: it coming, No she did not, she did. She decided

1901
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 2: to send a message and uh so you bought this

1902
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 2: star and that's kind of janky, and it's got like

1903
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: there's nothing that works to try to fix that thing

1904
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: that they put the you know, they've got the upside

1905
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 2: down ice cream cone on the angel's ass and it's

1906
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 2: supposed to sit there and it doesn't sit there. And

1907
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: then the star that ass that doesn't work either. Well,

1908
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 2: you know this is these are the things.

1909
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 6: Don't worry about.

1910
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: I guess it's just the thing everyone goes through it.

1911
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 2: It's like there's no easy way to get that thing

1912
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: straight up and down, Like, wow, that's perfect. It took

1913
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: me a good fifteen twenty minutes standing on the ladder

1914
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,560
Speaker 2: to the point where the tay after my cat's hurt.

1915
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 6: That's the sad part.

1916
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 3: I'm used to being on ladders. You know, got a

1917
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 3: little step stool.

1918
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 2: I'm trying to reach up there, and I should have

1919
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,440
Speaker 2: got my ladder, but it was at the shop.

1920
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 11: Like recording you because then you know, if something happened

1921
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 11: and you fell over on top of the tree.

1922
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 2: Throw a window, that would have been great, fantastic, awesome.

1923
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: My life is just what I need is more surgery. Yeah,

1924
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: but we're in the artificial tree phase of our I

1925
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 2: would we get the real tree. And it was always

1926
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 2: nice because we've bring the kids, and the kids are young,

1927
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: and they couldn't wait, and they get to help and

1928
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 2: saw the tree. You know, we do the whole Clark

1929
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,759
Speaker 2: Griswolt thing and go to the farm up in Lebanon

1930
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: and get a get a tree up there. And it

1931
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: was awesome because they had the cocoa for the kids,

1932
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 2: and they give you an annual orn and popcorn, and

1933
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,799
Speaker 2: you know, they had like, I don't know, a goat

1934
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 2: that we called it was a reindeer, but it was

1935
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 2: just a goat. And kids are stupid, so they don't know. Anyway,

1936
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 2: they're playing with the reindeer that's actually a goat. But

1937
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say nothing, so we go and go.

1938
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: And then finally they hit those tween and teenager years,

1939
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 2: and then everything was stupid.

1940
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 3: They didn't want to do all this stuff.

1941
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, why am I spending all this

1942
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: money and hauling them out to the out to the farm,

1943
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 2: and they have no interest. They didn't want to get

1944
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: out of the car, you know, so like, the hell

1945
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 2: with it, We're going home.

1946
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm buying an artificial Christmas tree.

1947
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 11: Well, and then for in those teenage years, they nobody

1948
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 11: would ever help me put anything up. So I got

1949
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 11: to a point where I'm like, I mean, I want

1950
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 11: to put the darn ornaments on the tree anymore. It's like,

1951
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 11: and then I'm the only one that takes it down.

1952
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 11: You usually are in charge of the outdoor light display

1953
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 11: called Clark, and then I'll do the inside.

1954
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 6: But yeah, we it is.

1955
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 11: It does feel good to have the holiday lights on

1956
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 11: and it's been cold and dreary, and when the lights

1957
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 11: are on and it's glowing, it is it's kind of

1958
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 11: magical and it and it feels good when you come

1959
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 11: home and the lights have to be on because it's

1960
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 11: dark outside.

1961
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's there's a comfort to it, right. Even

1962
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 2: if that angel or the star is crooked, Yeah, I'll.

1963
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 6: Have to take it.

1964
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: I'll take a picture of our crooked star post. The

1965
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 2: angel angel top of the tree is just a weird thing.

1966
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 2: I mean, like the branch is upper skirt, it's like

1967
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 2: and then there's it just it's it's just I don't

1968
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 2: know why a star is much much better. Let's get

1969
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: into real estate related stuff, not holiday related stuff.

1970
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 4: Should you have.

1971
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 3: Christmas decorations up if you're trying to sell your house?

1972
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and no, so for pictures.

1973
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 11: I do try to keep it fairly generic because the

1974
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 11: pictures are going to possibly outlast the holiday season. And

1975
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 11: that's what's happening right now, because the market is slow

1976
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 11: and we have listings that are staying on the market

1977
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 11: for more than thirty days. And so if your pictures

1978
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 11: show the holidays even when this snow outside. So we

1979
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 11: had that brief little snowfall, and some people were putting

1980
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 11: their house on the market during that snow, so the

1981
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 11: photos showed snow. Well, that sort of dates your photos,

1982
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 11: and so it'll be fine obviously for the next couple months.

1983
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 11: But if you're if it takes longer to sell your home,

1984
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 11: you know, generic is better, and it just certainly when

1985
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 11: you are living your life in between showings because you're

1986
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,759
Speaker 11: not going to have as many showings during the holidays.

1987
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 11: A lot of people take their home off the market,

1988
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 11: and frankly, I don't think that's the best idea because

1989
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 11: you can sell your home unless people know that it's there.

1990
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 6: So there are buyers out there that are serious. But

1991
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 6: if you are a seller, I.

1992
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 11: Would say, you know, keep the holiday decorations to a minimum.

1993
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,480
Speaker 11: I have one listening that's been out there since October

1994
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,520
Speaker 11: and they wanted to have you know, fall like pumpkins

1995
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 11: and stuff in their photos, and I said, nope, we

1996
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 11: can't do that because you know, we don't want to

1997
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 11: date the photos and show that it's been on the

1998
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 11: market longer than we like to think. But it's part

1999
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 11: of the process and generic is better, all.

2000
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 3: Right, fair enough?

2001
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: What about those who put religious artifacts and decorations up

2002
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 2: and the Jesus is the reason for the season, and

2003
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,640
Speaker 2: you know, you may go and have I don't know,

2004
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 2: a live Nativity scene on your front lawn. Does that

2005
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 2: turn people away? And how do you navigate that?

2006
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a conversation that we have. Is that not

2007
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 11: all people believe and when you are selling your home,

2008
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 11: it is a good idea to put away a lot

2009
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 11: of the religious artifacts. Now, my mom sold her home

2010
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 11: over the summer and she has she is the devoted

2011
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 11: Catholic that she is, and she has crosses and.

2012
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 3: Massive every day Rosary, four times.

2013
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 6: A day, constantly, and it's.

2014
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 3: Living room.

2015
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 6: They did not.

2016
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 3: Anyway.

2017
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 11: I said, Mom, I love you, I know that that's

2018
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 11: important to you, but it's not important to everybody. You

2019
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 11: need to go ahead and put those in a box.

2020
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 11: And she said, I'm not going to do it. If

2021
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 11: they don't like it too bad, I'm like, okay, well,

2022
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 11: it is ultimately your decision, but I feel like it's

2023
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 11: always best. If you want to leave a couple of

2024
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 11: items out, fine, but you want to neutralize your home,

2025
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 11: just like you know, you don't want a ton of

2026
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,799
Speaker 11: holiday decorations now. If you're gonna right now, you've got kids,

2027
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 11: your home is on the market, you have to sell.

2028
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,040
Speaker 11: You're going to put a tree up or something like that,

2029
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 11: that's okay, it's okay, Just don't have it in the

2030
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 11: pictures if you can avoid it.

2031
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So no giant crucifix in the living room.

2032
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 2: I would not recommend that. Just an important safety tip

2033
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 2: there if you're trying to sell. So yeah, so what

2034
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:19,560
Speaker 2: is uh safety?

2035
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 6: All right?

2036
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 3: What else you got?

2037
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 11: Well, you know, this time of year, most people are thinking, well,

2038
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 11: I can't buy my house now because I can't get

2039
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 11: a real inspection. And so talking about home inspections during

2040
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 11: the cold winter months is the topic that I find

2041
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 11: quite fascinating because there are some things that an inspector

2042
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 11: is not going to be able to see. Let's say

2043
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 11: there is snow on your roof, well, they're not going

2044
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 11: to be able to like blow the snow off the

2045
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 11: roof to check it, but they can go up to

2046
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 11: see the attic. They can see some things that you

2047
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 11: don't have to see from the outside of the home.

2048
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 11: So the cold weather actually helps inspectors find problems like

2049
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 11: drafts and air leaks, insulation problems, heating system, frozen or

2050
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 11: slow drains, which that's obviously something you're never going to

2051
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 11: see in the summertime. Window seal failures, ice damming in

2052
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 11: the roof edges, if you've got too little or too

2053
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 11: much insulation. Those kinds of things you can really see

2054
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 11: during the winter months. So that's a good thing. Did

2055
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 11: I say the AC You can't test your air efficiency.

2056
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 4: That way?

2057
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't do that. You'll bust it up. Yeah no,

2058
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 6: I don't. Just you just can't do it.

2059
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 3: Snow what happens.

2060
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 2: You can't do it because snow will come out of

2061
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 2: your ducks and that's not good.

2062
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 6: I don't think that's.

2063
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 3: Oh, it's very true.

2064
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 11: I think you're making that up. See I can call

2065
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 11: out your bs anyway.

2066
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 2: No testing the AC below a certain temperature, so you

2067
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 2: can't do that. But I okay, But there's other things

2068
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 2: you can do.

2069
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 11: Oh absolutely, again, you know the other this is an

2070
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 11: interesting statistic or fact. Radon tests are more accurate in

2071
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 11: winter than they are in the summer.

2072
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 6: What about that.

2073
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 11: That's interesting because everything's kind of closed up, so you're

2074
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 11: you know, you don't have your windows open.

2075
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that if you've got pumbing problemly, plumbing problems,

2076
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 2: they show up in the winter.

2077
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 3: That's for sure.

2078
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:20,560
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

2079
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 11: And if you have you know, if your drains are

2080
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 11: slow or you have slow water coming out of the

2081
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 11: faucets and stuff, that could mean that you have some

2082
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 11: frozen pipes along the way. That's definitely something. Winter can

2083
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:38,959
Speaker 11: also expose pest issues.

2084
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 2: Well, let's focus on the plumbing for a second, because

2085
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 2: you know what Friday is. It's not Black Friday, it's

2086
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 2: brown Friday.

2087
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 3: Did you know that.

2088
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 6: After you've eaten all the food? All right?

2089
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 3: Yes, that's plumbing calls.

2090
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 10: Man.

2091
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: Plumbers make a fortune on the weekend after just beeaking. Well,

2092
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 2: you got to think about it, you know, especially have

2093
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,640
Speaker 2: one bathroom in your place maybe and you've got a

2094
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 2: lot of people there, and it's constant, constant, constant, and

2095
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 2: there's a lot of paper and things going down there

2096
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,879
Speaker 2: and maybe kids to throw things down there they shouldn't.

2097
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 2: And of course your plumbing system and you may not

2098
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 2: know because you use it occasionally not as frequently, and

2099
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 2: when you get that high use thing going on there,

2100
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 2: it tends to club. There's a lot of paper and

2101
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:19,640
Speaker 2: stuff down there. And so yeah, because there's just so

2102
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 2: many people using.

2103
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 3: It, Okay, that's good time, just FYI.

2104
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe go in shifts or be a

2105
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 2: little more conservative, hand out one square when they go

2106
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 2: in and say this is all you get.

2107
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, don't use the whole role.

2108
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 6: Yeah. Or my nephew who goes in AND's.

2109
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 2: Like three days, like I'll see if he's still he's

2110
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 2: just getting our bathroom now. He was there since I

2111
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 2: think labor day. So I don't know what he's doing

2112
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 2: in there.

2113
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2114
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to know what he's doing in there.

2115
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 6: No, I don't.

2116
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 2: All right, see, uh remember one time he missed like

2117
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 2: the entire first half of the football game.

2118
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 3: It's like, are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine.

2119
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 2: Just takes me a while, okay, all right, whatever. So

2120
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 2: more than you look at that, Yeah, it's just it's

2121
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 2: brown fry plumbers kind of joke about it, but there's

2122
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,839
Speaker 2: a lot of truth to it, a lot of service

2123
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: calls because of clock and all of that. It's also

2124
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 2: you know, people putting stuff down drains they shouldn't. If

2125
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 2: you have a disposal at your home and you're used

2126
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,600
Speaker 2: to it and Aunt Sally's I'll do the dish. No,

2127
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 2: you've put all this cooking. It was delicious, honey, you

2128
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 2: go watch the football, I'll clean up. And Aunt Sally

2129
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 2: doesn't have a disposal, or she has a disposal that

2130
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 2: you don't and she's cramming, you know, pieces of turkey

2131
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 2: fat down the sink. You're gonna have a problem there.

2132
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 2: Same thing too with the grease, and there are people

2133
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 2: who still don't understand you can't put grease down a

2134
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 2: drain because it causes clogs and backups and you have

2135
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 2: that as well. So yeah, it's a busy day for

2136
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 2: plumbers for sure.

2137
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 11: That's actually the grease tip is huge because I have

2138
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 11: seen the results of someone who has been putting grease

2139
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 11: down there drain for years and so you think, well,

2140
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 11: I'm going to turn the hot water on and the

2141
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 11: grease will go down and it'll just keep going and

2142
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 11: it will be a liquid forever. But it's not because

2143
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 11: at a certain point in the line, it gets cold

2144
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 11: and that grease will solidify and after years and years,

2145
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 11: that's it. It can be a very very expensive I

2146
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 11: saw one one property that we did an inspection and

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Speaker 11: the clog from the grease was so significant it was

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Speaker 11: halfway out there lawn, you know where by the time

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Speaker 11: it got to that point where it solidified, and it

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Speaker 11: was a very expensive lesson, no question for the homeowners.

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Speaker 11: And they're like, well, we've never had a problem. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 11: you don't have a problem until you do.

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Speaker 3: It's a while for that.

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Speaker 2: To you know, a little bit at a time, and

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Speaker 2: you know, it's not a commercial kitchen, so it builds.

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Speaker 2: So what happens is like anything you think of that pipe,

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Speaker 2: it goes down and where's it go It goes straight

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Speaker 2: down and that goes I don't know, I'll go through

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Speaker 2: my foundation said, right, it's underground where it's cold, and

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Speaker 2: at some point that that warm turns to cold and

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Speaker 2: there'll be a No matter how much they sloped pipe,

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Speaker 2: there's always gonna be a little low spot, a little

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Speaker 2: valley in there somewhere. And then if you have a

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Speaker 2: break because it's older even more so, but there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a spot where it stops and Clyde, it's good,

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Speaker 2: and then it starts to build up and it's like

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Speaker 2: your arteries, like eventually it becomes where you've got to

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Speaker 2: call the surgeon and in this case the plumber. And

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Speaker 2: whether it's I don't know, a bypass or bypassing your

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Speaker 2: your your drain stack, it's it's expensive and it's a

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Speaker 2: lot of pain. So anyway, my wife Michelle Sloan here

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Speaker 2: and the YouTube too as well, and the video version

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Speaker 2: of it as well. She has guests and stuff like that. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: she's over at the Remax time in Mainville, and happy holidays.

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Speaker 2: Be forewarned about what you put down your sink and plumbing,

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Speaker 2: and be careful putting that star arrangel in the tree.

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Speaker 2: Somebody needs to come up with a better way to

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Speaker 2: do love. You gotta go, I gotta go. Willy's on

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Speaker 2: the way next and he has I think he's got is.

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Speaker 2: I thought I saw what he had on to I

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Speaker 2: know he's gonna get a little bit in the CBD

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Speaker 2: stuff as well, and the polling numbers I was talking

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Speaker 2: early about with the Republicans and Trump. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how concerning that is for the Great American, but I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he'll address that at some point after news here

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