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Speaker 2: For those who don't know, tone, give us your your

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Speaker 2: Skyline order. What do you go with? Three way light spaghetti,

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Speaker 2: two chili cheese sandwiches. Pay dude, slow it down, all right,

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Speaker 3: Give it to us again. Three Way Yeah Light spaghetti. Okay,

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Speaker 3: two chili cheese sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: All right? Playing, So do you do the light spaghetti

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Speaker 3: More juice, Oh, more juice that I could kind of

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Speaker 2: Three o'clock, sop it up before when it comes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now, last time I was at Skyline, which was last week, Uh,

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Speaker 3: That's disrespectful to even ask it.

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Speaker 2: I went to my favorite skyline on Sunday, the oak Skyline,

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Speaker 2: I've never seen mountains a cheese that high before. Incredible.

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Speaker 2: better way to celebrate National Chili Day than with some

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Speaker 2: Skyline Chili. At some point today. John Sheeran.

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Speaker 3: Covering the Bengals eight is E Sports is going to

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Speaker 3: join us at one o'clock today. We used eightes E

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Speaker 3: Sports mock Draft is our mock draft Monday this week? Yes,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to John about that and so much more.

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Speaker 3: And you want to talk about the theme of the

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Speaker 3: week Austin, and that's boots on the ground at the

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Speaker 3: NFL Combine. That's right for most people, for a lot

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Speaker 3: of people, anyone that's associated with the Bengals essentially pretty

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Speaker 3: much anybody who covers the NFL. Yes, they're at the

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Speaker 3: combine pretty much. So since not there, we'll do our

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Speaker 3: best to give you a feel of being at the combine.

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Speaker 3: Kegan Nickoson is there, Yeah, Bearcatgournal dot com. Dante Corleone

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Speaker 3: spoke yesterday, Jake Golday spoke yesterday. I know Joe Royer

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Speaker 3: get you up to speed with all things Combine and

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Speaker 3: the Bearcats with Keegan Nickoson. We'll also talking about the

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Speaker 3: Bearcats basketball team as well so shearon it one Nickoson

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Speaker 3: at two talkbacks after John Shearon that all comes up

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. What else do we got? We'll recap college

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Speaker 3: basketball from last night, the Norse Big winners on the

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Speaker 3: for nkyal.

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Speaker 2: If they would have lost to Cleveland State, we may

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Speaker 2: because if you're losing to those guys, you're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: But that's a good point, no doubt. Darren Horn's team

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Speaker 3: You know nku's next game at home, bring it Wright State,

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Speaker 2: And the words did Jeff Brantley bring in on.

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Speaker 3: The Xavier Musketeers last night fall on the road at Providence.

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Speaker 3: Thirty two point loss for Saint John's. A ten point

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Speaker 3: busy weekend ahead on Saturday, Kentucky host Vanderbilt, UC host

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Speaker 3: So we will talk college hoops later on this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: What about FC Cincinnati last night, Austin.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, I think they just scored again? Did

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Speaker 2: I see it correctly? Nine nil? That's correct against O

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Speaker 2: the CONCACAFF Champions Cup. Apparently O and M had some

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Speaker 3: Aggregate thirteen nothing. They advance in the Conka CAFF Champions

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Speaker 2: what type of player that Aaron Glenn, who, by the way,

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Speaker 3: what the national view of the Cincinnati Reds is right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm to go through some Major League Baseball lineup rankings

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Speaker 3: We'll dive into that today. We made mentioned yesterday of

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Speaker 3: Tarik's scuball and how he's approaching the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 2: just gosh, it sucks that he's a Pittsburgh pirate. Who

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Speaker 2: But I dislike the Cardinals because of the players. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Brewers, they're just annoying, just annoying, but you can't

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Speaker 2: The postseason history of just ten twelve years ago with

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Speaker 3: Did you see in the in the the skiing start

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Speaker 3: yesterday that Matt Olsen challenged the curveball No, And it

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's so. That's happened twice already in spring training.

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Speaker 3: think like the last nine batter challenges have been successful.

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Speaker 2: It might have been the Red Sox and the Pirates

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Speaker 2: whatever it was, they the first five challenges of the game.

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Speaker 2: The umpire was wrong. I think the first pitch of

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Speaker 2: But who do you think you are? I Am? If

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Speaker 3: come back. Let's go to the combine Al Golden spoke yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Alexa, what's going on in the end.

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Speaker 5: That is up on the walkway beyond the sperm out

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Speaker 3: Okay, this player was being to size because he was

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Speaker 2: John Cruk a long time on ESPN with the Phillies

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Speaker 3: The latest from the combine. Based on what I'm seeing,

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Speaker 2: Arms are too short. Kind of getting feeling, I mean

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't the sheriff kind of walk around like your

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Speaker 3: I did see from Crazy I saw from Friend of

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Speaker 3: Before one other thing on ruben Bain. I saw people

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Speaker 2: I think he's just a football player. Yeah, Like he

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I think that's kind of endearing

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Speaker 3: Now we heard Zach and Duke and talk about you know,

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Speaker 2: There was Al Golden met with the media for thirty

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Speaker 2: scheme and or more Actually is more about how the

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Speaker 2: scheme developed towards the end of last year and how

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Speaker 2: pieces can be added to that to maximize the scheme.

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Speaker 2: Here's two minutes of Al Golden.

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Speaker 7: Oh, we have to build This was the least amount

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Speaker 7: of pressure that I've that I've had in forever, and

436
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Speaker 7: by a long margin, the least amount of you know,

437
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Speaker 7: line stunts. So we made a lot of progress with that,

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Speaker 7: and a lot of it was you know, Barrett and

439
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Speaker 7: the night settling in and being able to call some

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Speaker 7: of those on the field, because it's hard to call

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Speaker 7: lin stunts just as a as a as a pre

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Speaker 7: snap call, it really is, because you're calling it in

443
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Speaker 7: your mind, you're envisioning one thing. But well, you know,

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Speaker 7: if the wys off in the and the tight tailbacks

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Speaker 7: over there, well, you know what, that's not a great

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Speaker 7: stunt against it. So those need to be called on

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Speaker 7: the grass. And I think we're gonna make such a

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Speaker 7: big uh And we made a lot of progress at

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Speaker 7: the end of last year with that. Those guys settled

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Speaker 7: in nicely for us, and again that's my fault. We

451
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Speaker 7: asked them to do more than we should have early on.

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Speaker 7: Those guys responded and we made progress there and hopefully

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Speaker 7: there's a nice starting point for us.

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Speaker 2: But we have to have a good offseason. You know,

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Speaker 2: we have to have a good off season.

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Speaker 7: We need we need everybody here and and focused in

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Speaker 7: and we need to be really clean and sharp.

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Speaker 2: You know, coming out of June.

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Speaker 8: Would you like to have one of those slot safety

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Speaker 8: star types that would unlock some where there?

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Speaker 2: It is the draft of free agency, though, Yeah, who

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: Like, again, I'm a defensive coordinator, so I like toys,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like, I mean, who wouldn't

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Speaker 7: want to have somebody that's again, you need force multipliers, right,

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's what you need, right, you need you

467
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Speaker 7: need somebody in the defensive van room that can play

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Speaker 7: outside backer.

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Speaker 2: You need.

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Speaker 7: You know, you need linebackers that can play on and

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Speaker 7: off the line of scrimmage. You need a like you're saying,

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Speaker 7: you need that star or Nickel, whatever you want to

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Speaker 7: call them. You know, he's either got to come from

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Speaker 7: the corner room or the safety room. And and if

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Speaker 7: the guy can do both, well, man, you've got something.

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Speaker 7: And so yeah, we're looking for versatility. I love versatility

477
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Speaker 7: in our in our system, in our program, and especially

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Speaker 7: if you can do it without substitution. That's what makes

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Speaker 7: you dangerous. And you know, we'll see you know where

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Speaker 7: we go here, uh in terms of identifying those things.

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Speaker 7: But you have complete faith in in uh In Zach

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Speaker 7: and Duke and what we're going to acquire here in

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Speaker 7: the next you know, next month and then obviously three months.

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Speaker 3: All right, the term force multiplier, all right, someone that's

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Speaker 3: going to help the effectiveness of the group and be

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Speaker 3: able to do so in multiple facets. I think that's

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Speaker 3: fascinating and really good stuff there from Al Golden. But

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Speaker 3: the idea that I think sticks with me is the

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Speaker 3: ability to have a player on the field and not

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Speaker 3: have to sub and that player can be used in

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Speaker 3: multiple ways, right if that player needs to drop in coverage,

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Speaker 3: if that player needs to play the run, if that

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Speaker 3: player needs to get after the quarterback, if they need

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Speaker 3: to line up as a linebacker, if they need to

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Speaker 3: line up and rush the passer.

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Speaker 2: That's a force multiplayer.

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Speaker 3: The value of a player like that is incredible, and

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Speaker 3: you can find those players at every level. D lineman

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Speaker 3: that can drop, a linebacker that can play up, a

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Speaker 3: safety that can drop down into the box and apply pressure.

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Speaker 3: Those are the types of players that I think can

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Speaker 3: be a game changer for a defense. I think you

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Speaker 3: view some of the players in the top ten as that.

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Speaker 3: But also the ability to just kind of feel like

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Speaker 3: you can take the restraints off a little bit if

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Speaker 3: you're oult Golden and open up the playbook in year two.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a really good insight from him in

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Speaker 3: a brief amount of time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you'd think of like a nick emon warri.

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Speaker 2: I think that might have been the direction Charlie was

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Speaker 2: coming from with that question. And you know, it obviously

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Speaker 2: makes sense. It's safety, but he also talked about it

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Speaker 2: and you mentioned it as well. Without having to sub

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Speaker 2: that can make you a dangerous defense. Yep. How many

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Speaker 2: time you're able to do that? Huge?

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Speaker 3: How many times we talked about twelve personnel last year

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Speaker 3: and different personnel groupings where you force the defense's hand.

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Speaker 3: How are you gonna play it? You're gonna are you

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Speaker 3: gonna sub or are you going to stay with with

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Speaker 3: heavy personnel? Like, if you've got force multiplier, it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 3: You're good either way.

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Speaker 2: And there was there was one team who really went

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Speaker 2: opposite of the rest of the group, and that was

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Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks. Yes, with the way that they would

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Speaker 2: approach those twelve and thirteen personnel groupings because they had

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Speaker 2: that flexibility. By the way, the official Google definition of

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Speaker 2: a force multiplier oh is a factor, tool or tactic

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Speaker 2: that significantly increases the effectiveness, combat power, or productivity of

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Speaker 2: a person or group without necessarily increasing its size. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so there you go. And by the way, Duke Tobin

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Speaker 2: has said this, Zach Taylor has said this, now Al

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Speaker 2: Golden has said this. All three of those guys kind

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Speaker 2: of unprompted in their own way dropped force multiplier ooh

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Speaker 2: on the media in these conversations. We are continuing to

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Speaker 2: now kind of clarify.

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Speaker 3: The vision for the Bengals this offseason, and I like

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Speaker 3: the alignment at least in talking that they all have.

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Speaker 3: By the way, a couple of other things from the

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Speaker 3: combine here players that we've talked about to the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Caleb Downs was asked about the teams he has met with.

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Speaker 3: He said, quote, I met with a lot of teams.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going into individuals. Okay, all right, I don't

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Speaker 3: mind that.

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Speaker 9: Sure.

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Speaker 3: And this from Jermad McCoy, the Tennessee corner that tore

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Speaker 3: his ACL and missed all last season, he's not going

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Speaker 3: to work out at the Combine because he said, quote,

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Speaker 3: my body doesn't feel ready. Oh, Austin, he tore his

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Speaker 3: ACL four hundred and fifty days ago. That to me

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Speaker 3: would be a little concerning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: Still not go ahead and take him off the board.

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Speaker 3: Take him off the board right now. I'm good with that.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and take him off the ward. Mad McCoy

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Speaker 2: officially off often and eyes big board. Peter Woods from

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Speaker 2: Clemson will not work out today at the Combine. Rubin

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Speaker 2: Bain also not working out. Peter Woods will go full

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Speaker 2: at the Clemson Pro Day, which is coming up on

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Speaker 2: March the twelfth, that is the day after free agency begins,

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Speaker 2: but on field workouts begins today for the other defensive

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Speaker 2: linemen and linebackers. Rvel Reese is doing everything yep at

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Speaker 2: the Combine. Shout out to him, force multiplier. He would

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Speaker 2: be a force multiplier without any shadow of a day,

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Speaker 2: without a doubt he drops. Good Lord.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep you updated with latest happenings at the NFL Combine.

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Speaker 3: Also some quarterback projections that came out yesterday. And there's

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Speaker 3: a couple names on this list that would be with

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Speaker 3: new teams that I think would be an interesting fit.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about a couple of those. One of them

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Speaker 3: is not Joe Burrow. We know where Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 3: and what he's capable of, but perhaps the MAFC North

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Speaker 3: teams as well. We'll dive into that next. On the

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Speaker 3: Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station

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Speaker 3: are you running for office.

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Speaker 1: And Sincy three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Ton, it looks like there's a new quarterback on the market. Oh,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of NFL breaking news during the break.

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Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Colts and quarterback Anthony Richardson have agreed in

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Speaker 2: a meeting this morning that a fresh start would be

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Speaker 2: beneficial for both. Okay, the two sides will look to

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Speaker 2: find a trade partner for the twenty twenty three number

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Speaker 2: four overall pick, Anthony Richardson still just twenty three years old.

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Speaker 3: You know what I think is interesting is that would

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Speaker 3: be like, if I'm a quarterback needy team that's the

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Speaker 3: ultimate by low opportunity, sure, huge upside, a lot of

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Speaker 3: athleticism didn't pan out in Indy, I would be willing

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Speaker 3: to take a shot. If I was a team that

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Speaker 3: is in need of a quarterback, I would look at

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 9: Sure.

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Speaker 2: I also saw a report that Derek Carr might not

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Speaker 2: be done. I saw that as well. Now, what's interesting injury.

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Speaker 3: ESPN kind of predicted their quarterbacks for next year, and

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of quarterbacks we know where they're going

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Speaker 3: to be the starter at but there's some interesting names

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Speaker 3: on this list. The Cleveland Browns. I had not thought about.

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Speaker 3: This was Seth Water ESPN dot com. He predicts the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six starter for the Cleveland Browns to be

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. What would you make of Kyler Murray as

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Speaker 3: a Brown?

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Speaker 10: Like?

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Speaker 2: Are you all?

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Speaker 3: Are you done with Kyler Murray in his time in

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Speaker 3: Arizona Because when he was playing well, there's very few

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Speaker 3: that can match his skill set in the NFL it

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Speaker 3: went south in a hurry in Arizona. Would Kyler Murray

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Speaker 3: be an upgrade for the Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Browns, Yes, because it's hard to not upgrade from what

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Speaker 2: they had in their position. And I think Todd Monkin

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Speaker 2: and his style of offense and his ability to kind

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Speaker 2: of build around a unique skill set. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is Kyler Murray, but they're cut from the

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Speaker 2: same cloth in terms of that rare athleticism, So I

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Speaker 2: think that would make sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, other names on this list. The Falcons would would

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Speaker 3: have Michael Pennox. The Arizona Cardinals, Jacoby Brissett would be

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Speaker 3: the starter. They're trying to get Arch Manning. Now there

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Speaker 3: are two teams that you don't really know if the

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Speaker 3: quarterback will be healthy to start the year. Kansas City

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Speaker 3: and Indy with what Daniel Jones went through, they have

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Speaker 3: Kansas City starting until Mahomes comes back, Marcus Mariota and

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Speaker 3: Indy starting. Gardner minshew, I think I have a didn't

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Speaker 3: he tear his acl He tore his a month? Gardner

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Speaker 3: tore his a month after Mahomes might be ready to go.

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Speaker 3: I have a I think I have a skyline bet

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Speaker 3: with Drew Wester Heidi that Patrick Mahomes will start the

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Speaker 3: regular season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I could see that. Yeah. By the way, do

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Speaker 2: they have Malik Willis on there anymore?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 2: They have Malik Willis predicted to the Dolphins now. I

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Speaker 2: saw Jordan Schultz reporting this morning that a lot of

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Speaker 2: teams are interested in Malik Willis, and the teams that

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Speaker 2: he's spoken to in Indianapolis believe him getting at least

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Speaker 2: thirty million a year is a foe gone conclusion. Malik

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Speaker 2: Willis with the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: I saw he's got the Jets as a spot for

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Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler to be a starter. Would you, if you're

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Speaker 3: the Jets, go to the Rattler or would you take

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Speaker 3: a chance on Anthony Richardson, I would go to rattler.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've for a very long time said that I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't walk across the street to see Anthony Richardson play.

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Speaker 3: I think he stinks what else is interesting to me?

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Speaker 3: Two things from dan Orlowsky today. One he said that

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Speaker 3: through the first five games he has studied of each

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Speaker 3: or maybe eight games him, sorry, eight games he studied

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Speaker 3: of each. He said Ty Simpson's film is way better

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Speaker 3: than Mendozas.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of people probably don't

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Speaker 2: disagree with that. Like number one, the level of competition

651
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Speaker 2: at times for Indiana, especially early in the season, I

652
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Speaker 2: get that. I think if you look at his tape

653
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Speaker 2: against Ohio State, that's probably what matters and carries more weight.

654
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Speaker 2: I look at his tape in the Big Ten Championship

655
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Speaker 2: in the playoff, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like against

656
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Speaker 2: those big time teams. So I don't I think there's

657
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Speaker 2: not a ton there athletically from Fernando Mendoza. I don't

658
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Speaker 2: know that he just is. He just blows you off

659
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Speaker 2: the screen with his physical traits. But I think he's

660
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Speaker 2: fundamentally sound and can operate an offense, Like you make

661
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Speaker 2: the joke of Kirk Cousins because maybe their personalities are similar,

662
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: but I think them as football players are similar as well.

663
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Speaker 2: They're not going to run around like crazy, They're not

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Speaker 2: crazy athletes. But I think you know, with the right

665
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Speaker 2: system and the right people, Banana Mendoza can be a

666
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Speaker 2: good NFL quarterback. I don't know that anybody is looking

667
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Speaker 2: at that guy thinking this is the next Tom Brady,

668
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Speaker 2: this is the next Peyton Manning one who was it?

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Speaker 2: Last week?

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Speaker 3: We did a the comparison earlier in the week and

671
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Speaker 3: somebody said Mendoza and compared him.

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Speaker 2: To Joe Burrow. Yeah, and that was I think that's

673
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Speaker 2: I think that's like a fundamentals thing, like when it

674
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Speaker 2: comes to I think Joe Burrow is the most fundamentally

675
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Speaker 2: sound quarterback in the NFL, and to you would be

676
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Speaker 2: able to answer this better and and break this down

677
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Speaker 2: better than just about anybody. But from the ground up,

678
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Speaker 2: feet work, footwork, legs, motion, all of it, I think

679
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Speaker 2: Burrow's the gold standard in the NFL. And I think

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Speaker 2: Mendoza has a good head start on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he's a guy you want to

682
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Speaker 3: talk about like nailing the interviews, he just says all

683
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Speaker 3: the right things. Sure, Like I think he will nail

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Speaker 3: his time in Indianapolis at the combine. The other one

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Speaker 3: I thought was interesting that Orlowsky brought up today. He

686
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Speaker 3: said that the Vikings should go all in to get

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers to Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I agree, where is a What is the more desirable

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Speaker 3: team if you're Aaron Rodgers? The Pittsburgh Steelers, who I

691
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Speaker 3: saw a report coming out of the Combine that they

692
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Speaker 3: are in talks with Jacksonville about Brian Thomas junior.

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Speaker 2: Is it.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota or is it Pittsburgh. If you're a quarterback, you're like,

695
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Speaker 3: all right, which team is set up to win?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming if Rogers does it, it's gonna be one

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Speaker 3: more year. Is that Minnesota with Jordan Addison and Justin

699
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Speaker 3: Jefferson and Aaron Jones Or is that in Pittsburgh? Hopkinson too, Yeah, Hockinson,

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Speaker 3: it feels like Minnesota, especially being indoors at home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And he got Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think I kind of like that. Detroit's deef has

703
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Speaker 2: some turnover. Green Bay has some turnover, especially their a

704
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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator is gone in Jeff Hafley. Chicago has some turnover.

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Speaker 2: We talked about Tremaine Edmonds. I mean every team has turnover.

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Speaker 2: I get it. That's a division that feels winnable. I

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Speaker 2: do think there's something to the idea of beating the

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Speaker 2: Packers that Aaron Rodgers would like. I don't know if he.

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Speaker 2: I think some said that some of the assistant coaches

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Speaker 2: that McCarthy has hired, Aaron Rodgers doesn't necessarily see eye

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Speaker 2: to eye with. And oh, by the way, Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 2: who operates this offense that Aaron could absolutely operate as

713
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Speaker 2: elite communicator, have been an elite ability to develop quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: except for JJ McCarthy because he's horrible.

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Speaker 12: But like.

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Speaker 2: I've said from the beginning, that makes sense. I heard

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Speaker 2: someone say this, porting Malik Willis would.

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Speaker 3: Make sense in Minnesota if you were Minnesota and you

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Speaker 3: go to the veteran route, because maybe you still, for

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Speaker 3: whatever reason, believe in JJ McCarthy. But it's not going

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Speaker 3: to be this year. Does Aaron Rodgers or Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 3: do more for you at this point in their careers?

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Speaker 2: Hmmm? Because can I say Joe Flacco, sure? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I almost feel like that makes more sense, yeah, than

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Speaker 2: either of those two guys. But I guess I would

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Speaker 2: lean Rogers just because he played last year and was

727
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Speaker 2: he was fine, but he just keeps getting banged up too.

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Speaker 2: It's the Risks or the wag or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Which team between the Vikings and the Steelers. Do you

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Speaker 3: think have more force multipliers?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Minnesota? Okay, all right, Kevin O'Connell's a force multiplayer. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you don't think they have those in Pittsburgh. No, you

733
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Speaker 2: don't think Mike McCarthy is a force multiplier. I think

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Speaker 2: he is fair enough. I think he can be.

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Speaker 3: We need to break I like Mike McCarthy. We need

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Speaker 3: to wrap up our number one. We'll do so when

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Speaker 3: we get back. John Shearon, a is E Sports, will

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Speaker 3: join us at one o'clock as well. We'll keep the

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Speaker 3: NFL team rolling. We got to talk today. We'll do

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Speaker 3: so as well with Keegan Nickoson about Brendan Soresby College hoops,

741
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Speaker 3: the combine, and we've got Major League Baseball to discuss

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Speaker 3: as well. All ahead on the Home of the Bengals

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty right here from Mark Kenwood Studio, the

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Speaker 3: home of the Bengals Combine week, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station. Welcome back since he three p sixty, ESPN

746
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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We'll keep you up to

747
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Speaker 3: date with everything going on at the NFL Combine. We'll

748
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Speaker 3: do that with John Sheeran, who joins us at the

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Speaker 3: top of our number two mention this earlier in the show,

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Speaker 3: and we will dive into this much more in detail

751
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Speaker 3: with Keegan Nickoson when he joins us at two o'clock.

752
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Speaker 3: But Brendan Soresby has been is being sued by the

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Speaker 3: Universe of Cincinnati this in federal court, alleging Soorsby's breach

754
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Speaker 3: of his NIL contract with the Bearcats when he is

755
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Speaker 3: refusing to pay a one million dollar exit fee after

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Speaker 3: transferring to Texas Tech. It is one million in liquidated damages,

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Speaker 3: oh which the school said Sworsby was contractually obligated to

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Speaker 3: pay within thirty days of transferring. In the complaint, the

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Speaker 3: uh UC attorneys and said that Swersby was advised to

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Speaker 3: refuse paying the university by his agency in anything. It

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Speaker 3: said this in a statement from the University of Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: in his lucrative NIL agreement with Cincinnati athletics. Brendan Soorsby

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Speaker 3: committed to stay and play for two seasons as a

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Speaker 3: Proud Bearcat representative. He also agreed that if he left

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Speaker 3: the university before that time, he would pay the university

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Speaker 3: a specific amount for the substantial harm that this breach

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Speaker 3: would cause. That to me, Austin is pretty cut and dry.

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Speaker 3: If you signed that agreement. What legs do Sworsby and

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Speaker 3: his legal team have to stand on here? I don't

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Speaker 3: really know.

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Speaker 2: I mean their statement basically says, yeah, they you see,

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Speaker 2: paid him eight hundred and seventy five thousand dollars for

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Speaker 2: this revenue share structure, and why would they try to

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Speaker 2: recover from that because he was here? But you see

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Speaker 2: saying well it was a two year deal, right, I

776
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Speaker 2: just so because you left after the first year, you

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Speaker 2: don't get to keep that money, right, Yeah, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem like he's Their statement basically says, the money the

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Speaker 2: university seeks to recover from Soresby is nothing more than

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Speaker 2: an ad and lawful penalty under Ohio law. Because you

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Speaker 2: see has chosen to pursue this course of action, Brendan

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Speaker 2: will aggressively defend the lawsuit, pursue any and all damage

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Speaker 2: he encourages as a result of It doesn't feel like

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Speaker 2: this is in favor of Swersby right, Like I don't

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Speaker 2: feel like it's gonna lean in that direction.

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Speaker 3: The only this is Soarsby's agency. This this was in

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Speaker 3: the time to the twenty twenty five season. He generated

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Speaker 3: millions in value for the program. Attempting to recover those

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Speaker 3: funds now sends the wrong message to current future student

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Speaker 3: athletes and risk damaging the long term credibility of UC football.

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Speaker 3: This is further disappointment he done that. This is further

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Speaker 3: disappointing given that Brennan parted ways with U see and

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Speaker 3: what was a meech mutually agreed manner, the money the

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Speaker 3: university seeks to recover is nothing more than an unlawful.

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Speaker 2: Penalty mutually agreeable manner. Yeah, that I think you're probably

796
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Speaker 2: the buzzwords. You know that it's gonna have to find

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Speaker 2: how this happens. Like was there You got to know

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Speaker 2: the language of the contract. I guess that basically says

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Speaker 2: if you leave, we get this money. Correct, And if

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Speaker 2: he signed that, then he screwed. I mean, you know

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Speaker 2: we've seen this before or who was it? The quarterback

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Speaker 2: from Washington well, the duke quarterback, well, he took him

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Speaker 2: to Courton one right, But the Desmond Williams, the guy

804
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Speaker 2: from Washington, signs a deal and then like two weeks later,

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Speaker 2: it's like, I'm just kidding, I'm leaving and they're like, no,

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Speaker 2: you aren't correct. You signed this deal. This is an

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Speaker 2: ironclad deal. You are not getting out of this now.

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Speaker 2: I would assume that the Bearcats are smart enough to

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Speaker 2: know when putting this contract together that he's probably gonna

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Speaker 2: try to leave, and if he does, that's probably why

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Speaker 2: this exists.

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Speaker 3: Correct, And like you said, if he signed the contract,

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Speaker 3: that's legally binding.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Some would argue that he didn't play the full season,

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Speaker 3: that he stopped playing as the month of November started.

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Speaker 3: Some argue he didn't play in the bowl game.

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Speaker 8: But this is.

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Speaker 3: In the world of nil, where it feels like players

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Speaker 3: have all the power. This is a way for the

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Speaker 3: university to try to have some power. Say, Okay, we

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Speaker 3: are willing to pay you a lot of money, but

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Speaker 3: but you were contractually obligated to finish your time here

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Speaker 3: and if not, then you pay us the fee. Now,

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Speaker 3: could someone at Texas Tech pony up and pay that

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Speaker 3: one million dollars probably, But I don't have a problem

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Speaker 3: here Austin with what you see is doing and going

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Speaker 3: after money that they are owed. No million dollars, million dollars,

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Speaker 3: however you cut it. You're rowed that the contract was

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Speaker 3: breached and get you another player, as you're saying, can

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Speaker 3: make you, get you a couple of really good players.

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Speaker 2: Correct. Correct, So we'll see how it plays out.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what Kegan Nickison has to say about it,

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Speaker 3: but first from it his E Sports covering the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: John Sheeran is next on this. I wonder if he

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Speaker 3: has thoughts on this. National Chili Dack on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: It's our two. Welcome in Cincy three sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. We had the opportunity on Thursdays during

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Speaker 3: the NFL season to talk to our guy John Sheeran

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Speaker 3: covering the Cincinnati Bengals from made his e Sports and

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Speaker 3: with all the happenings going on around the NFL Combine

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Speaker 3: and and what the Bengals should or may look to

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Speaker 3: do in the upcoming NFL Draft, we thought a good

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Speaker 3: time to catch up with John, who is kind enough

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Speaker 3: to join us right now.

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Speaker 2: John, what's going on? How are you doing well?

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Speaker 5: Tony?

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Speaker 8: We just got the actual Olympics. Now we got the

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Speaker 8: under underwear Olympics. Now it's a good week.

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Speaker 3: The Underwear Olympics is a good way to put it.

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Speaker 3: Before we dive in, Austin said this before the break,

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Speaker 3: I have to get your your thoughts as a fellow

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Speaker 3: bear Kat fan, what do you make of the situation

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Speaker 3: unfolding with Brendan Soresby in the University of Cincinnati and

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Speaker 3: recouping a million dollars?

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Speaker 8: I don't really share my thoughts on anil and stuff

864
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 8: like that, but it is like every time we see

865
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 8: a story like this, it just feels like another pillar

866
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 8: of the college sports world that we know breaking down,

867
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 8: and it just seems like this is inevitably going to

868
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 8: lead to something that we've really never really experienced for

869
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 8: and it just seems like all these you know, like

870
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 8: legalities and lawsuits and things like, it's just all leading

871
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 8: to something a lot larger and at the end of

872
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 8: the day, like a million dollars and a million dollars

873
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 8: for some institutions. For some players it's not much, but

874
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 8: for some it's a lot. And yeah, yeah, like it's

875
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 8: never good to see this sort of thing happen, But

876
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 8: I'm just I just kind of want to just send

877
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 8: the part where all this become unrecognizable. We just kind

878
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 8: of moved to to the point where we probably should

879
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 8: and that's just kind of where my head is at

880
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 8: at this point.

881
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: I have to ask John because I want to get

882
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: into prospects and the Combine and the draft itself. But

883
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: we've had the opportunity to hear from Duke Tobin, we

884
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: heard from Zach Taylor, we've heard from the coordinators. Anything

885
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: that they said that that caused you to take note

886
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: or maybe that you questioned what they had to say

887
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: at their time at the combine.

888
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been We've heard from Duke a couple of

889
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 8: times now the saw season, which is one more than

890
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 8: where we usually are at this point in the offseason,

891
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 8: and he's made it very clear that there will be

892
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 8: an emphasis to bolster this pass rush for the defensive

893
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 8: line specifically. We know that that's a huge weakness on

894
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 8: the team, and we also know that in free agency

895
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 8: there is a lot of edge rusher that will be

896
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 8: available and the market will be saturated, and it should

897
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 8: be a position where the Bengals should find someone that

898
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 8: they want for a price that they that they find desirable.

899
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 8: It may not be the same at defensive tackle, which

900
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 8: is why I thought it was also interesting when Duke

901
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 8: left the podium and talked to local Bengals beat writers

902
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 8: that we all know respect he talks about bj Hill

903
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 8: and Chris Shank and is now bullish on them. He was,

904
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 8: and that was kind of interesting to me, But I

905
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 8: kind of took it as yeah, like they recognize that

906
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 8: this free agent class may not be very strong at

907
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 8: the defensive tackle spot, but it was no surprise to

908
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 8: see them meet with the top defensive tackle prospects at

909
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 8: the combine.

910
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: And they may look for answers there.

911
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 8: So I'm really interested to see how they address the

912
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 8: defensive line because Duke Tobin doesn't really say anything definitively

913
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 8: when he talks in these spaces, but he's made it

914
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 8: very clear that he wants a deep, incompetent pass rushing

915
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 8: years to bolster the defense. And the way to do

916
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 8: that is, you know, to utilize both ratescy and the draft.

917
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 8: So I'm interested to see how they actually end up

918
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 8: doing that.

919
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: Is there a defensive tackle in this class that you

920
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: can justify taking with the tenth overall pick right now?

921
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 8: Like, so long as Peter Woods tests at his pro deay,

922
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 8: He's not going to test with the Combine for whatever reason,

923
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 8: but if he tests well at his pro day, I

924
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 8: would probably look to consider him there for sure, just

925
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 8: because of the player that he was in the first

926
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 8: couple of years of Clemson. A lot of stuff happened

927
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 8: there in this past year. He was kind of misused,

928
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 8: The defense around him kind of fell apart, and I

929
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 8: think a lot of people have questions about, you know,

930
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 8: how he kind of responded and why the perduction dropped,

931
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 8: and that's why, you know, so many teams wanted to

932
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 8: talk to him at the Combine this week, and it

933
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 8: is a shame that he's going to test in the

934
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 8: very standardized setting and a lot of that data is

935
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 8: very useful for his position specifically, and there are some

936
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 8: size concerns with him as well, but I really liked

937
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 8: what I saw from him as another classman. There's a

938
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 8: reason why he was labeled as the top ten pick

939
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 8: entering this past season, and I don't think that player

940
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 8: necessarily went away. He's only twenty one years old, so

941
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 8: other than him, though, it's not a very promising class.

942
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 8: I'm not in on Caleb Thanks, I'd be with that pick.

943
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 8: I think the production was just very consistent. He missed

944
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 8: all of last season as well, so it's definitely not

945
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 8: a very top heavy class. But if would test like

946
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 8: a decent or good athlete, I would feel comfortable with

947
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 8: that pick.

948
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: At this point, I want to go.

949
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 3: Back one more time to Duke Tobin, who spent time

950
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: talking about you know with with the local media of

951
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: you know, we have work to do and we need

952
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 3: to get to certain points. But he also doubled down

953
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: that he thinks this team can can win a Super

954
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 3: Bowl right now, and a lot of people also kind

955
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: of had reactions to his quote of we're always all

956
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: in with the Cincinnati Bengals. Did you take anything away

957
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: from the all in comments from Duke Tobin not necessarily.

958
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 8: I think his definition of all in and our definition

959
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 8: of all in or two completely definitions. I think they

960
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 8: are always all in on their own process and how

961
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 8: they believe what they believe in terms of philosophy and

962
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 8: roster building and contractual principles and all that stuff, right,

963
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 8: And I think they're always going to give what they

964
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 8: deem their best effort for what they think is the

965
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 8: right thing to do. But clearly, in almost sixty years

966
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 8: of practice there, it's not not led to Super Bowl, right,

967
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 8: So you would think that some changes could be instituted there,

968
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 8: but we're not really seeing any of those changes on

969
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 8: the horizon. So I think it's like it's hail Mary

970
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 8: at best asking Duke Hobin to sacrifice guaranteed money or

971
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 8: you know, future draft picks for the sake of making

972
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 8: these aggressive moves that you feel comfortable would improve the roster.

973
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, the Bengals believe

974
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 8: what they believe in. It's just by attacking needs in

975
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 8: terms of volume, in terms of players and contracts that

976
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 8: they feel comfortable with. So going on in it doesn't

977
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 8: really move me because I know that Duke doesn't really

978
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 8: believe that the way the other gms do.

979
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: Everyone this time of the year has multiple mock drafts,

980
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: and we've gone through each mock draft on every Monday,

981
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: and we've seen it all, from Ruben Bain to Sunny

982
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: Styles to Caleb Downs. We've seen the Bengals addressing corner.

983
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: We've seen the Bengals addressing tackle. Everyone's going to have

984
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: a name or a position to throw out there. But

985
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: as we sit here today at the end of February,

986
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 3: if you had the opportunity to make the perfect pick

987
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 3: at number ten, who would you be zeroing in on.

988
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 8: I think right now when you're looking at who's worth

989
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 8: that pick in terms of how good they are as

990
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 8: a player, the value that they would bring to the

991
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 8: Bengals at their position, the value of the position itself,

992
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 8: because I think that's another fact that people kind of

993
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 8: overlook sometimes. But just an elite player who's worth that pick?

994
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 8: To me, it just screams Ruben Bain to me right now.

995
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 8: And this is a little bit of foresight for me,

996
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 8: just like thinking about what's going to happen in for

997
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 8: agency and what the team is going to look like

998
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 8: entering the draft. I feel a lot more comfortable about

999
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 8: the Bengals signing a veteran safety that would make taking

1000
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 8: a guy like Caleb Downs a little bit less of

1001
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 8: a necessity in compared to where the spots that they

1002
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 8: are now. But I think Caleb Downs is just as good,

1003
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 8: if not an almost even even better prospect compared to

1004
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 8: Reuben Bay. I would have them probably in the same bucket,

1005
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 8: the same tier, if just guys that feel so comfortable

1006
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 8: of being inserted into the defense and making an instant difference.

1007
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 8: But I do value an edge rusher over a safety,

1008
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 8: and I think it's going to be easier for the

1009
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 8: Bengals to sign a competence safety and just make sure

1010
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 8: that that position is still entering the draft. But I

1011
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 8: think Bain is one of the top five players in

1012
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 8: this class, and I think, for you know, very archaic

1013
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 8: reasons in terms of arm length and wingspan, he may

1014
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 8: actually be available with the tense overall plays. So right now,

1015
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 8: that's still my ideal pick, and I think he would

1016
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 8: not only feel the bigges knee, but he would also

1017
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 8: give them a truly elite player in the class, and

1018
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 8: that's that's the combat that you're looking for.

1019
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: We've heard that the term positional value used a lot,

1020
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 2: especially as Caleb Downs is a safety at that number ten.

1021
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: We've also heard that with Sonny styles thrown around. Can

1022
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: you explain that to people specifically with the tenth overall

1023
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: pick and those positions safety and linebacker and why some

1024
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: teams maybe wouldn't spend that pick on those positions.

1025
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think those positions specifically, you're looking at top

1026
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 8: of the market type of prices in terms of free agents,

1027
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 8: right and for a safety and linebacker compared to pass rusher,

1028
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 8: compared off the tackle, compared to wide receiver, compared to quarterback,

1029
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 8: there's just a different it's in a different atmosphere in

1030
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 8: terms of how much you're paying. And because draft picks

1031
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 8: they get paid, Like, we already know what their contracts

1032
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 8: are going to look like before they're even drafted. We

1033
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 8: knew what Jamar Stewart's contract was going to look like

1034
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 8: before he actually ended up signing it, right, Like, those

1035
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 8: are locked in values. So when you're talking about taking

1036
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 8: the tenth a player at the tenth overal pick, you

1037
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 8: know exactly how much he's going to get paid. And

1038
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 8: if a defense event like Ruben Bine fulfills his potentially

1039
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 8: it becomes a really good player by the end of

1040
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 8: his rookie contract, you're getting so much value because he's

1041
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 8: he plays a position that gets paid, you know, thirty

1042
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 8: forty million dollars in the open market for that type

1043
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 8: of player, whereas compared to a guy that could kill

1044
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 8: down kill Downs could be one of the best safeties

1045
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 8: in the league by the time that his contract expires.

1046
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 8: Shorty contract expires, But you're paying a pretty premium price

1047
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 8: for a safety compared to maybe like a pass rusher,

1048
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 8: maybe an offic of the tackles. Though, it's just because

1049
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 8: like what those positions get paid on the open market,

1050
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 8: you have to consider the value of that. And it's

1051
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 8: not like it's a bad decision, but there's other decisions

1052
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 8: that can create more value into especially when you're like

1053
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 8: the Bengals and you don't like to spend top of

1054
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 8: the market money on freeze ins.

1055
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: Anyway, as far as safety is concerned, there's been a

1056
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: lot of love for Jordan Battle in the last couple

1057
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: of days from Tobin from Taylor from Golden What do

1058
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: you make of that and maybe what their plan for

1059
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: Jordan Battle could be to continue his ascension that we

1060
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: saw a little bit towards the end of last year.

1061
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think because he was a full time starter

1062
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 8: for the first time last year, he made a lot

1063
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 8: of obviously quality plays. He had his up and downs,

1064
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 8: like most players on the defense did, but I think

1065
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 8: the way that he progressed and was able to position

1066
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 8: himself to make those plays, I think was a big

1067
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 8: positive for them. And considering the fact that this was

1068
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 8: his first year really just settling in as a full

1069
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 8: time starter, they probably saw enough of him to be

1070
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 8: confident and running it back with him. I think there

1071
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 8: was also a hesitency to replace both starting safeties for

1072
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 8: the second time in a couple of years that you know,

1073
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 8: they tried to do that obviously back in twenty twenty

1074
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 8: three and they failed miserably under Lunarumo. And obviously the

1075
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 8: process of replacing those guys a loving very good. But

1076
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 8: I think they're very locked in on finding a new

1077
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 8: partner with Battle, someone who can just do his job

1078
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Speaker 8: better than what Ginostone did and then have Battle kind

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Speaker 8: of compete in a contract year try to play his bests.

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Speaker 8: Obviously there's motivation with that factory as well, but I

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Speaker 8: think at the end of the day, Battle did just

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Speaker 8: enough to kind of secure his spot, and I think

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Speaker 8: them being bullish on him is a recognition that signing

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Speaker 8: or drafting two new safeties there to replace both Ginas

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00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 8: Stone and Jordan Battle is probably not feasible.

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Speaker 3: I've seen in some mock drafts the name Francis Mawinoa

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00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 3: has popped up the offensive tackle from Miami. Do you

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Speaker 3: foresee or could you foresee a scenario where the Bengals

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Speaker 3: don't address defense with the number ten overall pick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I think him specifically because he's got this guard tackle

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Speaker 8: flexibility too, and I think teams are going to look

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Speaker 8: at him in that way just because he's not maybe

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00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 8: as long as he would like a traditional offensive tackle

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Speaker 8: to be. I think that makes so much sense, especially

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Speaker 8: considered like we at this point in time, we don't

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Speaker 8: know if Dalton Riser is going to be back, so

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Speaker 8: that they would always say a huge need at right guard,

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Speaker 8: Like hell we get as a freegency thinking, I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 8: we need to find another guard again because he didn't

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Speaker 8: find rising it right, and like they could you know,

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Speaker 8: theoretically fill that need with the tenth overall pick and

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Speaker 8: with Francis specifically, he can play guard as a rookie

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Speaker 8: and then move out to left tackle potentially to replace ROLANDA.

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Speaker 8: Brown junior in twenty twenty seven. But regardless of what

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00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 8: happens at right guard, they do need a swing tackle

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Speaker 8: for this year. I think they need to probably move

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Speaker 8: on from Cody Ford and find someone better and then

1109
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 8: to grooman to eventually replaced Rolando brun juneor as the

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Speaker 8: Planet's eleven walk in for agency next year, because we're

1111
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Speaker 8: going to be thirty years old and they cost a

1112
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Speaker 8: lot again to pay for left tackles, and that's why

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Speaker 8: selecting a future left tackle the tenth rod pick there's

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00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 8: value to that because again you're paying a fixed locked

1115
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Speaker 8: in costs for that, and if he ends up being

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Speaker 8: as good as he wants to be from the gaming

1117
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 8: value with that, So yeah, it makes a lot of

1118
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 8: sense to me to use that Picke, if there's not

1119
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 8: a defense player that they like there.

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Speaker 3: What about the scenario where let's say that the four

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00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: or five guys that you've highlighted have already been taken

1122
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: in the first nine picks, and you know, we heard

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Speaker 3: Duke Tobin kind of talk about, you know, best player

1124
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Speaker 3: available versus biggest need. Do you do you open the

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Speaker 3: scenario of trading back if you are the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 3: based on what happens in those front nine picks ahead

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Speaker 3: of you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. I actually just talked to someone else in the

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Speaker 8: Daisy Sports who was talking about a scenario about the

1130
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Speaker 8: Timbilia Buccaneers potentially moving up for Sunny Styles, right, and

1131
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 8: how there's been a trade in the past where from

1132
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Speaker 8: moving up from fifteen to ten you get a third

1133
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 8: and the fifth round pick in return. Well, the Bengals

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Speaker 8: don't have a fifth round pick this year, and yeah,

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Speaker 8: it would also it would be nice to have more swings,

1136
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Speaker 8: especially in the class where at the top there's not

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00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 8: a lot of elite talents. So I think there's gonna

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00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 8: be a lot of teams picking around the Bengals that

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 8: would like to move back and just try to take

1140
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Speaker 8: as many swings as possible on some risky players, kind

1141
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Speaker 8: of in Day two and Day three and whatnot, and

1142
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 8: just kind of fill out the roster that way. I

1143
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 8: am interested to see though, because the Bengals are at

1144
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 8: sixty five players in the roster right now. They're typically

1145
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 8: around this number after frequency ends, so I don't know

1146
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 8: if you know nine or ten players are actually gonna

1147
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 8: make the roster. Who are drafted from the draft plots,

1148
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 8: So I don't know if a volume of picks is

1149
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 8: necessarily the Bengals that's interest. But if there isn't a

1150
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 8: player that's worth picking tens overall that you feel like

1151
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 8: and you can get an extra day to pick in return,

1152
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 8: I don't think that's the worst snaire in the world

1153
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 8: at all.

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Speaker 2: Duke Tobin described fourth round picks as geno actions. Do

1155
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: you think that is kind of vindicative of how much

1156
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: they view fourth round picks? If every fourth round pick

1157
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: in their mind is Geno Atkins, do you think they'll

1158
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: ever trade one.

1159
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Speaker 8: It's really just it sums up the Bengals a lot,

1160
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 8: because they value draft picks as but as potential value investments.

1161
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 11: Right.

1162
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 8: A fourth round pick becoming Geno Atkins saves them so

1163
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 8: much money from having to spend in free agency on

1164
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 8: a player who is like half of Geno Atkins.

1165
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 4: Right.

1166
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Speaker 8: Obviously, it's been sixteen freaking years since that pick was made.

1167
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 8: They haven't done anything removing close in the fourth round

1168
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 8: since then. But there's always a chance, guys, there's always

1169
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 8: a chance that the mystery box becomes a boat instead

1170
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 8: of pain for boat.

1171
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: What do you think of the term force multipliers being

1172
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: used so much.

1173
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 8: I think that's another term that indicates like, instead of

1174
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 8: signing a multitude of guys to fix the problem, signing

1175
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 8: one guy that makes the lives of everyone else's jobs easier.

1176
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 8: This is the more efficient way of doing that. The

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Speaker 8: problem though, is that like the best example of a

1178
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 8: force multiplier the Bengals have is a guy like Jamar

1179
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 8: Chase as someone who takes attention away from other defenders,

1180
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 8: up opportunities for guys and offense. He was a overall pick,

1181
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 8: He's a highest offensive player in the league right now.

1182
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 8: Those guys are not inexpensive. So yeah, if you find

1183
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 8: value force multipliers, that is like a cheat code to

1184
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 8: making your roster a lot better. So I think for

1185
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 8: a team that has his belief that they are not

1186
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 8: that far away from competing for a championship, adding a

1187
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,479
Speaker 8: couple of pieces to make all the other younger guys

1188
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 8: on defense that need some guidance and leadership, I think

1189
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 8: that is part of their mindset.

1190
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Speaker 2: Is why we've heard it so much. Who's more of

1191
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: a force multiplier, Ruben Bain or Caleb Downs. Oh, that

1192
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: is such a good question.

1193
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Speaker 8: I think honestly that the answer might be Downs just

1194
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 8: because of him being able to communicate on the back

1195
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 8: end and getting people lined up. I do question how

1196
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 8: much he's going to be able to do that as

1197
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Speaker 8: a rookie, But I don't really have a lot of

1198
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 8: questions about Downs in the first place. I just know

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Speaker 8: that Ruben baines like you can trust him to win

1200
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 8: a one on one situation as a pass rusher and

1201
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 8: that it was up other opportunities for your other pass rusher.

1202
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 8: So I think they're both. But I can see the

1203
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 8: argument for Downs.

1204
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 11: For sure.

1205
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 3: We knew the combine was going to be a wine

1206
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 3: where maybe we learn more about Trey Hendrickson. Do you

1207
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: envision anything coming from the combine with interest from another

1208
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 3: team with Trey Hendrickson and perhaps how that would play out.

1209
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think those talks are probably still going on.

1210
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 8: It's probably leaning towards nothing's really going to happen, because again,

1211
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 8: this is very unprecedented territory. When you're talking about the

1212
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 8: Bengals and tagging trade situations are pretty rare anyways. Nowadays,

1213
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 8: we haven't seen one since twenty twenty four. The last

1214
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 8: team to do that was the Chiefs. They're not shy

1215
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 8: doing anything out of the box in that regard. I

1216
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 8: just think what's working against the Bengals right now is

1217
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 8: because this is such a deep and saturated market for

1218
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 8: defensive ends, the market for trading for the rights to

1219
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 8: pay a thirty one year old pass rusher coming out

1220
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 8: of an injury filed season, They're probably not going to

1221
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 8: get the pick that they want. And that was the

1222
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 8: case all of last year when they were trying like

1223
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 8: hell to find a first round pick for Trey and

1224
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 8: then they can only get a Day two pick. Well,

1225
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 8: now they may be trying for a Day two pick

1226
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 8: and maybe they can only get a Day three pick

1227
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 8: in return. So maybe in their minds they feel like

1228
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Speaker 8: letting him walk and potentially getting a compensive where you

1229
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 8: pick next year is the better Pat and said, just

1230
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 8: accepting like a fifth round pick this year for a

1231
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 8: tagging trade situation, that again takes a lot of cooperation

1232
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 8: and communication from both sides between the team and the player,

1233
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 8: and obviously there hasn't been a lot of communication between

1234
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 8: the team and Trey Henderson over the course of his career,

1235
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 8: so I just don't foresee that happening at this point.

1236
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Speaker 2: What's your arm length, John.

1237
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 8: I think it's I think it's more than Reuben Bain,

1238
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 8: but I can't confirm that.

1239
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: Elite measurables. It's it's the measurables that they jump off

1240
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: the page. Yeah.

1241
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 3: The last thing I have in going back to what

1242
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin had talked about, We've we've talked about the draft,

1243
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: We've talked about free agency, potential for trades out there. Uh,

1244
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: his comments on Dalton Reisner and the decision that Dalton

1245
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 3: Reisner has to make as well. Uh, do you foresee

1246
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 3: something getting done sooner rather than later with Dalton Reisner.

1247
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I said all that kind of ingests earlier.

1248
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 8: But I do believe that the Bengals will extend Don Rice.

1249
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 8: I just think because mainly because he just has never

1250
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 8: signed a notable contract before in his career. He's already

1251
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 8: thirty years old. There's a clear fit between the player

1252
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 8: and the team or the scheme. He wants to be here.

1253
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 8: He's made that very clear. And when you have that

1254
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 8: sort of passion from the player's side of the negotiations,

1255
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 8: especially when he's never really made a sizeable check in

1256
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 8: his NFL career, that's typically when these decisions get aren't

1257
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 8: able to get done. Like, I think it's very similar

1258
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 8: to Mike a Seki last year, who obviously played on

1259
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 8: a one year deal. He expressed desires, you know, cashing

1260
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 8: free agency, but he realized that his best fit was

1261
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 8: here and the Bengals were able to get something done.

1262
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 8: But they're able to give him the best contract of

1263
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 8: his career just two days before the legal tampering window

1264
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 8: opened up. So I would say that weekend before free

1265
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 8: agency is when this is really going to kind of

1266
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 8: come to a head. And I think that's when Donald

1267
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 8: Reiser will realize that his best chance of not only

1268
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 8: making money, but being in a place that actually fits

1269
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 8: him is with the Bengals, And I think that's ultimately

1270
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 8: when this gets done.

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Speaker 3: I imagine John much like the Bengals and Duke Tobin.

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Speaker 3: Awesome stuff, John, thanks so much for the time today. Man,

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Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 14: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin and tone.

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Speaker 15: Please keep clean and don't mean at a sprinkle sprinkle,

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 15: drip drips.

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01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: It's that time, but talk back, Yeah it is. It's

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Speaker 2: our favorite part scene. See it's happening now, no doubt

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01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: about it.

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01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 9: So on your street, it'll please drying out to Cybertage.

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: What a whistling kick today. I've been whistling a lot.

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01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: I can't whistle. I don't know what it is, but

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01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: I do like a pore of whistle pig from now

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01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: and every now and then, really whistle pig. Okay, I

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01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: know you're a bourbon guy. Yep up, guys, Nicktorjune in Kentucky.

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01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 16: You get to watch the Pods and Reds last day

1305
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 16: out here today before coming back in two weeks here

1306
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 16: in sunny hot Zona. Like Ronnie Rock said, what we yesterday,

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01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 16: finally got another win as two in a row. I

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01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 16: love seeing win in the spring training Tony and Natti

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01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 16: if drinks winning in the season. This JJ lay got

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Speaker 16: what a signing.

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01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: I keep telling you what a signing. I got a

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01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: new nickname for him.

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Speaker 16: I'll be in the crowd singing it today and every

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01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 16: time he comes aback g a BP.

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Speaker 2: Hip hop the day. Oh ay, oh hip hop d

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: I like that. I like it. I got a new

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01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: nickname for him. Barry Bonds. Oh you see stays suing people.

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01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 6: Ooh ooh, you're a sued.

1319
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: It needs an I legal advice. Check out John Brandon,

1320
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: he got you.

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01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 17: Yikes, happy Stowey Thursday, everybody Bengals interview on prospects at

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01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 17: the Combine.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 17: They talked to Sonny Styles, David Bailey. Y'all know me,

1325
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 17: I'm on a candle down train or someone say caleave downs.

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01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 17: But you know Bang Bailey, that'd be cool too. And

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01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 17: if all three are gone, go get you Sonny Styles.

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01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 17: You know, a linebacker and knows how to tackle here

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01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 17: in the Natty would be a nice welcome change.

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Speaker 8: And where are you at?

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01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: Click?

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Speaker 17: Willie and Hank Hill?

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Speaker 11: I miss you guys.

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01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 17: Did y'all go together down to the taco bell or

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 17: a ball?

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01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 18: You know?

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01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: I feel like Hank will come back around baseball. He's

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01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: a big baseball with all of this happening, you know,

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01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 2: around who the Bengals are meeting with? What we should

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01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: be asking is which of the top prospects have they

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01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 2: not met with that they're going to eventually draft? Or

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01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: who who do they meet with that they don't remember?

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01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: Meeting with prospects doesn't read out so far, so good,

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01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: everyone remembers it.

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 19: You got your Tony and Austin. Hey, I was wondering

1346
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 19: how i'd get ahold of that Eddie Zella guy. I

1347
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 19: really want him to be part of my show show

1348
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 19: and do traffic updates for my show. So if you

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 19: could put me in touch with him, that'd be great.

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01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: Oh oh h Craig Craig left one. It's seven seconds

1351
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: long and it's complete silent. I don't know, not him

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: in el Central Villains.

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01:07:50,680 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 20: Gotta go, O'Neil Cruz, Yes, Ian Happ, tro Armstrong, Kristin Yelich.

1354
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 20: But at least I have respect for Yelich for being

1355
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 20: an actually good baseball player.

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01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: I kind of respect Hap too. I respect that he

1357
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: just hits the crap out of the ball every time

1358
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: he plays. He just mashes reds pitching PC. I do

1359
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 2: not like him. He hit that grand slam off Tony

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01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: santi On on my birthday last year. Remember, yeah, no,

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01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: you don't. You didn't come. I watched it. You didn't come.

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: I watched it, and you didn't come.

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Speaker 21: Uh.

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01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 2: O'Neil Cruz is a good one.

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01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 3: He apparently you can't play the outfield to save his

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01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 3: life highlight yesterday.

1367
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 2: Apparently he's been all off season work with Kevin Kiirbayer,

1368
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 2: one of the best defensive center fielders of all time,

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01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,560
Speaker 2: and he's still out running balls. Well, you know he's

1370
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 2: not going to play in many Sun games. James from

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Speaker 2: Batavia here and just remember anything as possible, Anything as possible,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett. Yeah, well, respect, I love it. Great job.

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: I kind of forgot we were doing this for a minute. Garnett,

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01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett, the big ticket, the big ticket.

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Speaker 22: I think I just heard Tony say, don't say who

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01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 22: I am and just leave a sports quote and you'll

1377
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 22: figure it out. I think you're gonna know who I

1378
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 22: am anyway, No, I get it, you're trying to figure

1379
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 22: out who said the quote. You're gonna know this one.

1380
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 22: But it's one of my all time favorites. How do

1381
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 22: you feel about your offenses execution? I'm in favor of it.

1382
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 2: One of the best of all time is Brian Kelly.

1383
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 2: Is Brian Kelly. But I think somebody else said it first.

1384
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 2: The pushback again, Yeah, so good. Winning is everything.

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01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:39,879
Speaker 3: It's the only thing.

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Speaker 20: Is that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know who said that, Vince Lombardi. That

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: has to be an old school one. It's I think

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01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: that's Vince Lombardi, Vince Lombardi or John Wooden. I want

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01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: to say, winning isn't everything, It's the only thing. Yeah,

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01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: what fellows Chris and Milford here, Chris were talking favorite

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01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: sports quotes and I can't stand as dude after he's

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01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: been out of the league. But Grant, wait, yeah, Bart Scott,

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: Bart Scott, h winning isn't everything. It's the only thing

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01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 2: often attributed to Vince Lombardi. The phrase was actually popularized

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01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: by Red Sanders in the thirties and forties. So I

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01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 2: was right about Lombardi. Everybody says Lombardi says it. No one,

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01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 2: No one gives Red any credit.

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 6: Quick double dip since sports quotes just came up. Faux

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01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 6: fau foe, faux faux foh, I don't know that one.

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01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 6: Faux rock fulter foe four four four four four fourth.

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01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 2: No, like faux fo I'm tipping, I don't know that one.

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01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 19: Uh.

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01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 2: This this says faux fo fo is a famous nineteen

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01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 2: eighty three NBA playoff prediction by six er star Moses Malone,

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01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 2: forecasting that the team would sweep all three rounds in

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01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Faux foe, faux fo.

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 17: I like that.

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01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 2: He nearly called his shot. They were twelve and one.

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01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 12: It's not the size of the dog in a fight,

1411
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 12: but the size of the fight and the dog.

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01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that feels like a boxing quote. Yeah, I mean,

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01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 2: I've used that one before. I just don't know who

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01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: says it. Yeah, this says Dwight Eisenhower or Mark Twain, really,

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 2: but I don't know.

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01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 17: What up Tony what a body from a man Rick Flair,

1417
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 17: like I said, to be the man, you gotta.

1418
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 2: Beat the man. Love it. That's a great one. That's

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01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 2: a great one. They're gonna sit at home all winter

1420
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: because we got the ring, we got the money, we

1421
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 2: got everything. Thank you, Chris Sabo at Fountain Square in

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01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety. That's a good one.

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01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 23: But man if man Leroy down here in found things

1424
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 23: that are still going on. Saint John's players can't go

1425
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 23: home till they make a field goal. They're still there.

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01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 23: Jj Bde's moon shot hasn't quite landed Jet and this

1427
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 23: just didn't the.

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: Scores another I thought he was going Yankees, I'm all

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01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: in all the time. That's my quote, Duke Duke, come

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01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 2: after me.

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01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 21: I'm a man.

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01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a kid, Mike John who we thought

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 2: they were. And that's why they took the damn field.

1434
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 6: Practice practice.

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01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 4: As you're ever been a better player than.

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01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: Bill Walton. I mean, that's just a that's about rush

1437
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 2: right there.

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01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 3: We threw four interceptions and fumbled once, one of them

1439
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 3: run back for a touchdown, three of them in our

1440
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 3: own into the field.

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: It's and it's inexcusable. Playoffs don't talk about it. Playoffs?

1442
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 2: Are you serious?

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01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 8: Playoffs?

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01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: I just hope they can win another game, another game. Yeah,

1445
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: very well done, Joe coach Mora. Yep. I'll tell you

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01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: one thing.

1447
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 10: If Austin Elmore doesn't win a Marconi for that time

1448
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 10: he was on air telling the world Tony Pike was fired,

1449
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,759
Speaker 10: then they should just do away with the award.

1450
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: I agree, that was the most riveting radio I've ever heard.

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01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 6: I thought Tony was dead. You know who's not dead?

1452
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 10: Cincinnati bangles all in as usual. Hey, here's my mount

1453
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 10: rushmore of names that.

1454
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 2: Sound fake but are not fake. Dante Orleo, Evan Longoria,

1455
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: Hussein Jon Bomb.

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01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 3: Oh, very well done. Someone claims that I never did return.

1457
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 3: At least that's what people around here may think.

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01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 2: You know, thinking back on that period of time, I

1459
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 2: think there was at one point where I did think

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01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: you had died, and then I reminded myself that you

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: were st alive. I don't think a lot of people

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01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 2: around here know that. I'm back realized to say that's

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01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 2: probably true. Yeah, a lot of empty promises have been made.

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01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 11: Ye.

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01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 21: Well, the next person that sees anybody throw anything on

1466
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 21: this field, yes, point him out.

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01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: We get him out of here. You don't live in Cleveland.

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01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 2: Come on, Sam, weish.

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01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 21: This is James from Batavia again.

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 12: And this interview was actually conducted by a friend of

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01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 12: the show, garbage.

1472
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 23: Whenever I think about Terrell Prior, he's just garbage.

1473
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: Who said that? No, Terrell Prior, who said Torell Pryor

1474
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 2: was guarding I don't know that one. Oh, oh, pac

1475
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: Man Jones, that was that was a friend of the show. Yeah, No,

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01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: he's definitely not a friend of the show. You could

1477
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 2: describe him as a foe of the show. Oh, show foe.

1478
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: That was a locker room I remember this now, a

1479
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: locker room interview with pac Man Jones, and he used

1480
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 2: the trash Yeah, he pointed to the trash can. Yep,

1481
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: it was one of his better moments. I want the next.

1482
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 8: Person that sees anybody from anything on this field to

1483
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 8: stand up point him out. You don't live in Cleveland.

1484
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 2: You live in Cincinnati. Yes, great delivery.

1485
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 24: I'm gonna need a little help with what coach when

1486
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 24: asked about how he felt about his player's execution, and

1487
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 24: he responded, he was all for it. And I got

1488
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 24: to include a movie because it applies to so many

1489
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 24: aspects of life, but don't think it can only hurt

1490
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 24: the ball club.

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01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 2: Don't be white. I don't know that one, No, man,

1492
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 2: I mean, I just bleep and walk. The guys. Game's

1493
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 2: pretty tough, Homer Bay so obscure, just that.

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01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 4: It's actually coming from somebody on the exact opposite spectrum

1495
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:57,799
Speaker 4: of an athlete.

1496
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: You're putting the.

1497
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 21: Emphastest on the wrong seallable.

1498
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 18: What.

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01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 2: I don't know that one either. God, I feel terrible.

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01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: It's the chickster. I have my laptop, I have my phone.

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01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 25: All I need is you.

1502
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 2: How about that.

1503
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 23: JJ blade left handed power hitter, gold red legs.

1504
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 2: It's a decent chicken bression. It's so good to hear

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01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 2: from the chickster man.

1506
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 19: Good afternoon, gentlemen.

1507
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 26: You know, after seeing the post that mister McAllister had

1508
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 26: on Duke's record putting our teams together, it kind of

1509
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 26: makes you wonder if this is an acceptable standard by

1510
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 26: the ownership, then I guess that speaks volumes to the

1511
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 26: whole problem with the team.

1512
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, you guys want to correct me on that.

1513
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 2: I think you kind of nailed it. I think that's

1514
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 2: how a lot of Bengels fans feel, hey.

1515
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:04,480
Speaker 21: Hey, it's JJDA and I just hit a baseball.

1516
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 14: Oh the weed to bombe, gonna have a good time,

1517
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 14: Come on, come on, gonna have a good time.

1518
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. Wow, fat Albert.

1519
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 23: JJ Blood, Tony Austin, Mike and Independence.

1520
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 11: What up?

1521
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 23: Dog got a couple of quotes my guys spoken a

1522
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 23: lot over the last few decades. One is I don't

1523
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 23: care what they say. I only went on through with sports.

1524
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 23: That's gonna be known as someone who was a great father.

1525
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 23: And the other I'm married to football baseball is my girlfriend?

1526
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: Have a good day? Boys, I don't know those Was

1527
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: that by the same person? Maybe? Man? I feel like

1528
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: Bo Jackson said both of those things. Look it up.

1529
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm married to football. Who gave the.

1530
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 18: No?

1531
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders said, did you see both? Probably I could

1532
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: see Dion talking about being a father. I don't know

1533
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: about eating children.

1534
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, SpongeBob here, Tony Audie. I just simply wanted

1535
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 15: to say thank you. I spend most of my days

1536
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 15: behind my windshield and outside sales. You guys keep me

1537
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 15: company three hours a day. Yeah, I love your show.

1538
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 15: Keep up the great work, and.

1539
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: Honestly, chimes in, don't think meat, it can only hurt

1540
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 2: the ball club. I don't know that Bull Durham. I

1541
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 2: never seen that movie.

1542
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 23: But there's this Neil Stuff's the Wild Wild Way.

1543
01:18:55,080 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 12: Of Neil, Hey, Tony and Naughty Gary del High. Yeah, Hey,

1544
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 12: Tony's information is all out there from the draft. So

1545
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,520
Speaker 12: it's only fair Austin that you put out your information

1546
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 12: to get drafted. So height, weight, hand size, arm length,

1547
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 12: and wingspan. I think that would be a fun topic

1548
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 12: for you to figure out, Spider.

1549
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: From when I was twenty one, I'll happily share that information.

1550
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 2: From nine measurements out, it was probably five eight two forty.

1551
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: I can probably tell you that. Uh. I don't know

1552
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 2: about the hand size, though I feel like I got

1553
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: decent sized mits.

1554
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 27: Oh, it's a glorious day out here at the paratial State.

1555
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 27: The birds chirping, warblers warblin. I'm gonna have to tell

1556
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 27: my coworkers at the DJ I'm a force multiplier today.

1557
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 27: I think that the Bengals coaches use that words they're

1558
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 27: trying to bamboozle wink.

1559
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 3: Much like as a former Bengal coach once said, I

1560
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 3: see better than I hear. I like that they're all

1561
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 3: saying that the right things. Yeah, I'll need to see it.

1562
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: All that talk about came in three times that multipoint.

1563
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,520
Speaker 21: Hey listen, man, I'm worried about you. Just this skyline

1564
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 21: order man, light spaghetti to get extra chili is like,

1565
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 21: come on, man, what are we doing?

1566
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 2: Get your play get your play card. You're your arm.

1567
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 21: Wrist band or arm band thing out of retirement. Go

1568
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 21: in there and get you a three way with extra

1569
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 21: chili juicy and they get your counties or chili dogs?

1570
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 21: Are why or why but sloppy. They're getting over on you.

1571
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 3: So that's what I was gonna ask. So what is

1572
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 3: a more presentable order? Because my father will say three

1573
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 3: way extra juicy, I say three way light spaghetti. The

1574
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 3: goal is the same, getting more chili.

1575
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: Don't people say? Uh wet? Is that that's something people

1576
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 2: have never heard that. I'm pretty sure it's like a

1577
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: me a wet three way A three way wet. I'm

1578
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 2: pretty sure y'all correct me if I'm wrong, Like, what

1579
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: do you want to be like, give me a three

1580
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: way extra juicy? I want to say that. I think

1581
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: light spaghetti rolls off the tongue bell yeah, thank you?

1582
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: Or on the fanatic coach Bill Belichick. Yes, Hey, so

1583
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: I heard, uh you said Brian Kelly said it, and

1584
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: maybe he did, but you're right. Somebody said it first.

1585
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 22: It was John McKay coaching oh in fourteen Tampa Bay.

1586
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: Buccaney is back in my day. That's right. The team

1587
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: was terrible. Craig has has tried to leave us another one,

1588
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 2: and it is again silent. Craig, I think you need

1589
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 2: to allow your microphone permission to be used on the

1590
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.

1591
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 11: Also from Mainfield, here's one you missed the shots.

1592
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 2: Come on, Michael Scott, No, dude, what that's the great one?

1593
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,759
Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky, that's Michael Scott. I'm just a big Harry

1594
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 2: American women machine. You know that sounds like a that's

1595
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 2: got to be a wrestling quote, right, I would think

1596
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 2: that's got to be up your alley.

1597
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 4: Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face.

1598
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson, good one.

1599
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 4: The best there is, the best there was, and the

1600
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 4: best there ever will be.

1601
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: I say that a lot, but I don't know where

1602
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 2: it comes from. I'm still trying to figure out that

1603
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: the Harry there was a kicker.

1604
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 14: In college that told his coach that he was afraid.

1605
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 14: He was nervous when he was kicking around him.

1606
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 23: The coach told him, I hate to tell you.

1607
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 4: The song I won't be at.

1608
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 8: Every game.

1609
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 2: First feels like an Urban Meyer game. The hit may

1610
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: at heart is the best there is, the best there was,

1611
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 2: and the best there ever will be. It's me versus

1612
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia. That's all it is, Grace Underwood. Now that go.

1613
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: We're talking about practice, not a game, not to get

1614
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 2: the game. We're talking about practice. Man, I'm supposed to

1615
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 2: be the franchise player, and we sit up here talking

1616
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 2: about practice practice, Alan Ivers.

1617
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 25: Nothing cleanses the soul like getting the hell kicked out

1618
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 25: of it. And by the way, the quote attributed to

1619
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 25: Brian what's his name was first uttered by John McKay.

1620
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 2: Yes, that's criculum.

1621
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 8: Hey, fellas, have be Friday Eve.

1622
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:38,879
Speaker 2: It's DJ from.

1623
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 4: In honor of my hornets being at the Pacers.

1624
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: Tonight, I'll do this quote. That wasn't Michael Jordan out

1625
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 2: there tonight.

1626
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 8: That was God disguises Michael Jordan's tonight. You guys have

1627
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 8: a great day.

1628
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: Gosh, that's a good one. You know what's crazy? I

1629
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: call him Black Jesus. For a while.

1630
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 3: I actually looked at tickets to go to that game tonight,

1631
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 3: really just like Wilder is so into basketball. Yeah, he's

1632
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 3: never been to an NBA game, and I'm like, man,

1633
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 3: the Hornets are kind of a fun team.

1634
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: You should have went when the Bulls were there. You

1635
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 2: could have got them dirt cheap. Well, I think that.

1636
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 2: I look the other night, it was like eleven dollars ticket.

1637
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like this would be a perfect But what I

1638
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 3: figured out is Indy's way too far to be able

1639
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 3: to drive.

1640
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 2: And come back. That's true, Yeah, Indy is I mean

1641
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 2: that's a really long lai.

1642
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the combines there and that's that's so couch here,

1643
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 3: So come on, Marsian Marshan Lynch.

1644
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: Thank you. The dog in the fight quote came from

1645
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 2: Archie Griffin.

1646
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 17: I'm sure he probably borrowed it from uh Dwight Eichenhower so.

1647
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: Well as a winner of a Archie grif Archie Griffin

1648
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 2: three two one. In twenty thirteen, the ot Man won

1649
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: the Archie Griffin Sportsmanship Award from the OHSAA. I should

1650
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: have known that quote.

1651
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 20: I was so fat and nasty I would eat a

1652
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 20: tub ice cream every hour of every day.

1653
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 2: I was just so fat and nasty.

1654
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 19: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the

1655
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 19: few or the one.

1656
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 2: I feel like we're getting into war. Mike Tyson was

1657
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 2: the quote before about that nasty.

1658
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 18: So. I was raided by a Skyline employee one time

1659
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,560
Speaker 18: when I asked for a three way wet oh, and

1660
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 18: she said, do you want it wet or do you

1661
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 18: want it saucy?

1662
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 12: Oh?

1663
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,839
Speaker 2: Well, what's the difference? She said, wet is just extra

1664
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: liquid sauce. Saucy is extra chili. I was confused, man, Interesting, see,

1665
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: I feel like, what's the difference of the chili and

1666
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: the sauce. It's got to be a location by location thing, okay,

1667
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: Like the things that people say on the West Side

1668
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: are not the same things we say over here, Like

1669
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 2: it varies on location. It has to be all right,

1670
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 2: we're done, we're out of time. You can go when

1671
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: we get packed.

1672
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: Do you think I could? I could go and I

1673
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 3: could take him to the game tonight in Indie and

1674
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 3: still make it back tonight.

1675
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 8: No.

1676
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 3: I mean, clearly, from a logistical standpoints, doesn't. And he's

1677
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 3: not close enough to be able to go and do

1678
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 3: anything there you're right, we'll take a break. You said

1679
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 3: touch and go or two, so one segment. We're gonna

1680
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 3: do one segment when we come back. ESPN fifteen thirty

1681
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

1682
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: Hey, meet a strong one. I gotta have some fun tonight.

1683
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 3: This welcome back sin C three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty

1684
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. Kegan nickoson he's at the Combine. Also

1685
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 3: at the Combine Bearcat Journal dot com.

1686
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 11: Uh.

1687
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 3: He'll join us at the top of our three We'll

1688
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 3: talk about those Bearcats at the Combine. We'll talk about

1689
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 3: his overall Combine experience to really give Austin listeners a

1690
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 3: chance to feel like what it would what it would

1691
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 3: sound like have boots on the ground there at the Combine.

1692
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: I think it's cool that Chad Brindle was able to

1693
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 2: make sure that his employee got to Indianapolis to cover

1694
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 2: the NFL Combine percent from a Bearcat's perspective, one hundred percent.

1695
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty cool and that's important stuff. Yeah,

1696
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 3: it's important stuff to be there and be a part

1697
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 3: of that. Before we get to Keegan, I'll remind folks

1698
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 3: we are twenty eight days away from opening day here

1699
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 3: in the Great city of Cincinnati. And when you think

1700
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 3: of twenty eight and you think of the Cincinnati Reds,

1701
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 3: you may think of names like Veda Pinson, No, Chris Heisey, Dude,

1702
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 3: Austin Kerns, Lenny Harris, Oh my gosh, Lenny. What about

1703
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 3: that one fateful season where Paul Konerko was a Red?

1704
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say that one male man. Nope,

1705
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: it's mos guy. Nope, Kyle Losh remember Kyle. Yeah, that

1706
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: dude had a really bad temper. Yep Edwin and Carnacion.

1707
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. He went on to have an awesome, big,

1708
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: really good but when he played for the Reds, he

1709
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 2: could not field the baseball. And when he could field

1710
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: the baseball, he couldn't throw it across the Infie one.

1711
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 2: Vladimir Ballantine, Wow, Disco, Anthony Diska Fani, Yeah, what about

1712
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 2: Tommy fammeverybody? He slapped the smack out of Shah Fantasy football? Yeah?

1713
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: Who was a Bellinger?

1714
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 12: Was it?

1715
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 2: I forget who it was?

1716
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1717
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was him.

1718
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 3: I mean, really, a Who's who? If I'm I would

1719
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 3: have to, I would have to give this today to

1720
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: Austin Curtains. I'm gonna give it to one of the

1721
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 3: nasty boys, Randy Myers. That's a tough one to go

1722
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 3: against as well.

1723
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 2: What you mean Wally Post too? I mean Wally Post

1724
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 2: was a monster? Yeah? What about Jake Eisenhardt? Couldn't tell

1725
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: you anything. The first Red to wear number twenty eight

1726
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 2: was Benny Frye. Okay, back in nineteen thirty four. Who's

1727
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: wearing twenty eight this year? Hey, Hanios, there you go?

1728
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 2: There you go? Yeah.

1729
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 3: Nick Martinez head dawned it for the last two seasons

1730
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. Boots on the ground at the NFL's.

1731
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: At Tampa Bay Ray now by the way, Yeah, tomorrow

1732
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 2: we get to celebrate your guy, maybe your favorite Red

1733
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 2: of all time, Trevor Bauer. We'll take a break. Um wow,

1734
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 2: I'm just now I'm getting ahead of myself. Do you

1735
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 2: know Bower's run that twenty twenty season was some of

1736
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: the most fun I've ever had watching the Reds. Do

1737
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: you know that a Red has not worn the number

1738
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: twenty four since who wore it? Tony?

1739
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 3: There you go nineteen eighty six. We'll take a break,

1740
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 3: We'll come back and we'll go to the combine. We're

1741
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 3: not going to the combine, but we'll go to someone

1742
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 3: made at the combine. Keegan Nickoson next ESPN fifteen thirty

1743
01:29:59,040 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Day.

1744
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati.

1745
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1746
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 3: Hour three on your Thursday afternoon. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

1747
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 3: Sports Station. Thanks for listening to along, whether it's here

1748
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty or V the iHeartRadio App. We

1749
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 3: enjoy having you each and every day. We got an

1750
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 3: hour left. Let's kick this hour off as we do

1751
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 3: each and every Thursday, with the man covering the Cincinnati

1752
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 3: Bearcats for Bearcat Journal dot Com and Boots on the

1753
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 3: Ground in Indianapolis. Kegan Nikison. What's up, Keegan?

1754
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 2: How are you?

1755
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:44,879
Speaker 11: I am doing excellent?

1756
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 2: Tony?

1757
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 11: How have you been?

1758
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm good.

1759
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 3: I'm curious. Did Chad like put you up in a

1760
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 3: hotel in India? You're making the commute each day.

1761
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 28: No, he's got me the what is it the nicest

1762
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 28: suite at the JW Maria. Oh, he isn't really cashing

1763
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 28: out for me on this trip.

1764
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 2: Ye money unbelievable journal crushing it. Although west Miller discourse

1765
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: has led to some success.

1766
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 3: Oh, let's let's start with the combine. We'll get to

1767
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 3: hoops and obviously what's going on with Brendan Soresby as well.

1768
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 3: But you've been around yesterday, Dante Corleone, Jake Golday, Joe

1769
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 3: Royer today. Any big takeaways from from having a chance

1770
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 3: to listen to the Bearcats at the combine?

1771
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 28: No, not a ton of huge takeaways on attendance, like

1772
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 28: important or stuff that we haven't really heard. I think

1773
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 28: Jake Golday's situation is interesting to me because he's kind

1774
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 28: of he's going to be playing sort of a different.

1775
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 11: Position at linebacker. In the NFL, he played a.

1776
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 28: Lot of Sam at uc at the premium front, so

1777
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 28: he was kind of flexible, could line up on the

1778
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 28: defensive line and go for the quarterback a little bit.

1779
01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 28: But I just think his skill set and maybe with

1780
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 28: the production like he had one hundred and four tackles

1781
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 28: his past year, he.

1782
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 11: Wants to run a four or five forty his size.

1783
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 28: I just feel like a GM would kind of be

1784
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 28: a full to pass up on him if if they're

1785
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 28: linebacker needy, especially a team in Cincinnati like the Bengals,

1786
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 28: who as of yesterday hadn't yet met with gold Ay,

1787
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 28: so I would love to see him stay in the city.

1788
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 28: Joe Royer's story is obviously awesome. Lost his mom his

1789
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 28: thirty year at Ohio State and lost his love for

1790
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 28: the game of football, transferred back home to Cincinnati, and

1791
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 28: told us today that he like kind of rediscovered it

1792
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 28: saying with the Bearcats, and part of it might be

1793
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 28: going back home. Part of that might be, you know,

1794
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 28: it's it's way more fun to be the go to

1795
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 28: guy offense instead of being thirred in the depth chart

1796
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 28: and getting like fixed receptions.

1797
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, go to We're getting to that Tony,

1798
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 2: all right.

1799
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 11: So someone asked him about that, and you know kind

1800
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 11: of what led to it. And this dude he came

1801
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 11: with receipts. He was like, so I got a few

1802
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 11: stats for you, and he's.

1803
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 28: Like, we were lasting time of possession, running a lot

1804
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 28: of RPO.

1805
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 11: We had a bunch of man blitzing at the end

1806
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 11: of the year, so I had to protect a bunch.

1807
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 11: So I'm hoping that this past year definitely.

1808
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 28: Dinged his draft stock a little bit. He was rumored

1809
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 28: to be a first round pick. He'll probably go more

1810
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 28: in the fourth or fifth round range if I had

1811
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 28: the guests, But I think just at Golda, he's got

1812
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 28: the skill set and the size and the traits that

1813
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 28: have success in the NFL.

1814
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 3: How do you project these guys as NBA NFL draft picks?

1815
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 3: Because you can make the argument Keegan when he's healthy

1816
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 3: and when he's in the game, Dante Corleone disrupts everything

1817
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 3: that an offense wants to do. The problem is he

1818
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 3: did not play enough. He was off the field. The

1819
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 3: injuries are obviously concerned. Gold Day's an absolute physical freak,

1820
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 3: flies all over the field, and as you mentioned, Royer

1821
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 3: going into the year had this huge upside. Some had

1822
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 3: him as a first round pick. So which ceiling is

1823
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 3: the highest out of those three Bearcats?

1824
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 11: If I had to go stealing wise, I think it's

1825
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 11: I think it's Jake Bolday. Just his build and his mix.

1826
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 28: Of speed and like he even said, his best trads,

1827
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 28: his effort, how he gets all out effort on every

1828
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 28: single play. I think that just sets him up to

1829
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 28: be a high volume tackler and then also use his

1830
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 28: defensive ends go set that he had a central Arkansas

1831
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 28: and that he kind of capitalized on a Cincinnati to

1832
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 28: get after the quarterback.

1833
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 11: The positional flexibility that he has, like he will probably

1834
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 11: playing Mike.

1835
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 28: He's played a lot of sand, he could probably splide

1836
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 28: over to Will, and he can line up as kind

1837
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 28: of an outside linebacker. I think that puts him in

1838
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 28: a position to have a really good career. Dante's interesting

1839
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 28: to me because he mainly played in the freeman front

1840
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 28: of Cincinnati, so he didn't like he was getting double

1841
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 28: team basically every play of his entire career. But in

1842
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 28: those one on ones you saw how he just bullied

1843
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 28: like offensive lineman and how he was basically pushing them

1844
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 28: back into the quarterback. So and then I think Joe,

1845
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,879
Speaker 28: if he can stay on the field as a blocker

1846
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 28: and really really proved to be a really good blocker,

1847
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 28: I think he can also have a career.

1848
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 11: But I think it for me, if Jake Golden is

1849
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 11: a Hall.

1850
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 28: Of Famer one day, it would really surprise me. And

1851
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 28: I said that since the first spraying or fall pack

1852
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 28: practice that he was.

1853
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 11: At U see.

1854
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 3: I wonder because I saw a list yesterday of Combine snubs.

1855
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 3: There's a lot of folks that believe Cyrus Allen should

1856
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 3: be at the Combine when a player has skipped over

1857
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 3: in that sense, Does that sometimes maybe add fuel to

1858
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 3: Cyrus Allen because I still project him if he lands

1859
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 3: in the right spot with the right team, I still

1860
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 3: think he can be a productive NFL wide receiver.

1861
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 28: Absolutely, and I think it should add fuel. And I

1862
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,600
Speaker 28: don't really know exactly what goes into the process of

1863
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 28: selecting guys to the combine and what boxes need to

1864
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 28: be checked, or if there's just a certain amount of

1865
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 28: numbers that they limit it to. But it's just hard

1866
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 28: for me to understand why you can't give the Things

1867
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:00,759
Speaker 28: twelve leader.

1868
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 11: And touchdown receptions and invite especially when like the skill

1869
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 11: set that he showed and kind of what you said,

1870
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 11: if he lands in the right spot, GMS love guys

1871
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 11: who get open because if you can get open, you

1872
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 11: can score touchdowns, you can wrack up the yards and receptions.

1873
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 11: And that's what he does better than anyone in the

1874
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 11: Big Twelve this past year. His mix of.

1875
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 28: Speed and route running, kind of understanding defenses and the

1876
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 28: rapport that he was able to build with Brennon Sowersby

1877
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 28: in just one year. I think that, like Golde, sets

1878
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 28: him up for a lot of success and I would

1879
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 28: expect them to be taken maybe around the fourth or

1880
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 28: fifth round range as a team just looking to get

1881
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 28: a guy who can really stretch the field.

1882
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 3: Any other Bearcats that outside of those four that you

1883
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 3: think could shine at a Pro Day or have a

1884
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 3: spot on an NFL roster.

1885
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 28: I think if anyone can capitalize up for Pro Day,

1886
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 28: it's Jeff Caldwell.

1887
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 11: Because I think he had a eleven nine broad jump

1888
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:58,759
Speaker 11: that you see last year, which.

1889
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 28: Would have been number one last year's combined by like

1890
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 28: a few inches. He's got really good straight line speed.

1891
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 28: I don't know if he gets to it that fast

1892
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 28: to a point where he can register like a four

1893
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 28: to three forty, but six three has great catch ability.

1894
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 28: You saw it against Bowling Green when he had that

1895
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 28: one hand catch. Also pretty good route running. So I'm

1896
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:21,879
Speaker 28: looking forward to seeing.

1897
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 11: His numbers where he is at the arm length or a.

1898
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:30,560
Speaker 28: Wingspan and a hand size kind of thing, and I

1899
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 28: think he would probably get taken before Cyrus aland just

1900
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 28: because of the tools that he has.

1901
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 2: Let's switch gears a little bit.

1902
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 3: The quarterback of the Bearcats the last two seasons will

1903
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 3: be at Texas Tech this year is being sued by

1904
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 3: the University of Cincinnati. Brendan Sowarsby versus now the University

1905
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 3: of Cincinnati. What do you know about this so far

1906
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 3: and maybe early on in this process, what this looks

1907
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 3: like from a UC standpoint.

1908
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 28: Yeah, it's it's kind of funny to me that this

1909
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 28: is getting so much traction, and I think it mainly

1910
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 28: is just because it's like a school suing their former quarterback,

1911
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 28: because when you really boil it down, it's just breach

1912
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 28: of contract, like you're just not living up to what

1913
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 28: you signed.

1914
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 11: Your name to.

1915
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 28: And he knew that if he didn't stay there for

1916
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 28: two years a second year after he signed the deal

1917
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 28: following the twenty twenty four season, that he would have

1918
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 28: to pay a million dollar bio because it was either

1919
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 28: I don't know if there was wording that if he

1920
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 28: went to the NFL out for the season he would

1921
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,560
Speaker 28: have to pay it or anything like that. But he

1922
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 28: left for another school, so it makes even more sense.

1923
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 28: It's also funny because when you read his lawyer's statement,

1924
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 28: it basically boils down to them just saying, look, Cincinnati's

1925
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 28: being very mean by doing this, and they shouldn't be mean,

1926
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 28: like they should be nice because there was no really

1927
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 28: like we had this case and we're going to fight

1928
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 28: on this ground that was just well, he made them

1929
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 28: so much money as the quarterback, so why are they

1930
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,799
Speaker 28: even coming after And it's like that's a million dollars

1931
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 28: right to a team like Cincinnati. That's three starters, maybe

1932
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 28: four starters for the Cincinnati Bearcats, So it's extremely important

1933
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 28: to them. And I just think in this day and

1934
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 28: age where it gets so crazy and so hectic, if

1935
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 28: we're just gonna not live up to contracts and take

1936
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 28: every contract to court, it's going to get even worse.

1937
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 28: So I don't see the legal ground that sways being

1938
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 28: his team has. Maybe they'll try to claim something, but

1939
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 28: I think it's gonna end up with Cincinnati winning it

1940
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:33,719
Speaker 28: and ultimately getting the buyout money.

1941
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 3: I think it was Chad On on a podcast that

1942
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 3: actually said it. It to me like we're already in uncharted,

1943
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 3: uncharted territory. We're already in the term that Austin loves

1944
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 3: to use the Wild West with where we're at. If

1945
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 3: if the contracts that these players are signing, that is

1946
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 3: the only thing that is legally trying to bind, If

1947
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 3: those if those don't hold up, then then what are

1948
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 3: we doing and how would this ever have any type

1949
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 3: of of lid put on it.

1950
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 28: Yeah, and I even think about the coach's buyout stuff,

1951
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 28: like at least Kansas State said, look, he embarrassed our team,

1952
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 28: and he has like an ethical clause in his contract

1953
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 28: to not embarrass our team, Like at least they.

1954
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 11: Can lay that out.

1955
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 28: And even even they were getting toasted by basically everyone

1956
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 28: for saying that you had no grounds to do that.

1957
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 11: So, yeah, you just don't see these buyouts fought very often.

1958
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 28: It's kind of an understanding, and it's almost like Brendan

1959
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 28: went to Texas Tech knowing that he would have to

1960
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 28: pay the buyout and he's tried to get away with it.

1961
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Speaker 11: Maybe not exactly sure.

1962
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 28: But yeah, I think Cincinnati's going to be the benefactor

1963
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,919
Speaker 28: of this and end up getting the money that they're Let's.

1964
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 2: Talk about the basketball program.

1965
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:49,640
Speaker 3: They come up short against Texas Tech, but they did

1966
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 3: find a way to win against Kansas When you look

1967
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 3: at the Texas Tech matchup on Tuesday, did it just

1968
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 3: feel like a team that had exerted so much on

1969
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 3: Saturday that felt me a little tired on Tuesday.

1970
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 28: Maybe I just think that in like I'm coming from

1971
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 28: a place of a journalist who covers the team. But

1972
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 28: it seemed like the game plan wasn't really that difficult

1973
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 28: for Texas Tech. It's kind of throw to at Christian Anderson, which.

1974
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 11: Wes says that they tried to do, and then it's

1975
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 11: also not allowed.

1976
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 28: Donovan Atwell to have open shots. And I think Texas

1977
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 28: Tech is kind of fragile at this point where if

1978
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 28: they have a poor shooting night, they're probably going to lose.

1979
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,679
Speaker 28: Because you had Anderson get thirty one, you have Donovan Atwell.

1980
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 28: I think he had fifteen twelve or fifteen on four threes,

1981
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 28: So I was kind of confused by that. It seemed

1982
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 28: like a pretty obvious game plan for a team without j. C.

1983
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 2: Toppin.

1984
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 28: But they made shots, and ultimately, if you can get

1985
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 28: decent shots and make them, you're gonna have a really

1986
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 28: good chance to win, because you've seen since Night lose

1987
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 28: a lot of games for that exact reason. But yeah,

1988
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 28: I would definitely at least say that over that four

1989
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 28: game stretch they were maybe a little tired, but they

1990
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 28: were also coming off a bye week before the Kansas game,

1991
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 28: So if there's not a ton of excuses for that,

1992
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 28: it could also.

1993
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 11: Just boil down to like Texas Tech being good without JT.

1994
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 11: Thompson and Grant.

1995
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 28: McCaslin said that after the Kansas State game that he

1996
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,680
Speaker 28: thought that they could actually be better just because how

1997
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 28: they can spread teams out, especially against teams like Cincinnati

1998
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 28: where the main thing is the size of sparity, and

1999
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 28: like you think you're just going to come in with

2000
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 28: Boba Miller and Usafa Chan and dominate us on both

2001
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 28: sides of the ball, Well, we're going to spread you out,

2002
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 28: have our forty eight percent three point shooter, try to

2003
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 28: bury as many threes as you can and ended up working.

2004
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 3: That being said, they have a matchup Saturday at home

2005
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 3: against Oklahoma State BYU shorthanded comes into town, and then

2006
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 3: they finish on the road at TCU. You could make

2007
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 3: the argument on how they could win all three of

2008
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 3: those games. If you make that argument, does this team

2009
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 3: going into the Big twelve Tournament present at all a

2010
01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 3: chance at a at an NCAA tournament.

2011
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 28: I think if they I don't know the exact math

2012
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 28: on it, but I think if they win the next

2013
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 28: three that gives them a really good chance to get

2014
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:10,600
Speaker 28: a first round by in the Big tof tournament and

2015
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 28: kind of get into that seven or eight seed instead

2016
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 28: of being the nine or worst seed than you have

2017
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 28: to play on the first day. I think if they

2018
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 28: were to win out and then get two games in

2019
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 28: the Big TOLF Tournament, because that mean win two games,

2020
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 28: that means that second win is.

2021
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 11: A really really good team. Maybe a quad one win.

2022
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 28: Probably is a quad one win because you just have

2023
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 28: to be top fifty in the net on the neutral site.

2024
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 28: I think that would put them in a really good

2025
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 28: position come selection Sunday. And there's also so much chaos

2026
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 28: that can go around them that can help them, Like

2027
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 28: Indiana is just lost at home to Northwestern and they're

2028
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 28: a bubble team, So I think it's that time of

2029
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 28: year to be monitoring other schools and what they're doing

2030
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 28: and how they're performing, and maybe you can make a

2031
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 28: case for Cincinnati to get in there. But beating the

2032
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 28: UIUS is going to be tough. They're coming off one

2033
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 28: of the worst losses I've seen this.

2034
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 11: Entire college basketball season the UCF. I think they were

2035
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 11: kind like.

2036
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 28: Thirty at halftime or something like that. So it's it's

2037
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 28: tough to win three games in a row. But you know,

2038
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 28: they're still playing pretty good basketball.

2039
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 11: I agreed with Wes saying the offense wasn't that bad

2040
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 11: against Texas Tech. They just weren't making shots.

2041
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 28: And I would be really surprised if the defense doesn't

2042
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 28: bounce back after such a poor showing in Love.

2043
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 2: It before we let you go Keegan. For Wes Miller,

2044
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 2: what does this mean? What does this change?

2045
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 3: If they are able to win out and let's say,

2046
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 3: you know, albeit, I know the start of the year

2047
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 3: was a disaster. I know that that things were bad

2048
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 3: early on for this team, But if you look up

2049
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 3: at the end of the year and you have a

2050
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 3: team in arguably the best conference in basketball in the Bearcats,

2051
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 3: that could finish ten and eight in that conference, is

2052
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 3: that enough that that you're running it back next year?

2053
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 28: With Wes Miller, I think if they went out the

2054
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 28: regular season and grab one game the Big Teal Tournament,

2055
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 28: it's not a foregone conclusion that he gets fired at

2056
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:09,719
Speaker 28: the end.

2057
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 25: Of the year.

2058
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 28: I think if they go too in one and then

2059
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 28: they maybe lose the first game or get blown out

2060
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,440
Speaker 28: in the second one, then it's probably.

2061
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 11: A foe gone conclusion. I just think, like, if you're

2062
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 11: not putting yourself in a position to be have your

2063
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 11: name called on such Sunday.

2064
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:30,600
Speaker 28: After year five, you just have to move on. And

2065
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 28: even if they were to win out three games and

2066
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 28: barely miss the bubble, I still think it would be

2067
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 28: in their best interest to move on and try to

2068
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,679
Speaker 28: figure out a way to negotiate that buyout down.

2069
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 11: But from an eighties perspective, as I've said before, if.

2070
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 28: They can find a reason to not pay him so

2071
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,719
Speaker 28: much money and say we think that he's building something,

2072
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 28: sure they'll try to find that reason and try to

2073
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 28: run it back for the financial sake of the university.

2074
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 28: But I just think you have to move on after

2075
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 28: five years, like you're in the Big twelve, you have

2076
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 28: to try something different. This isn't really the acc with

2077
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 28: Steve Forbes getting the seventh season at despite.

2078
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 11: Not making the NCAA tournament.

2079
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 28: So in Cincinnati fans definitely have higher expectations for the

2080
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 28: basketball program than Wake Forest fans do.

2081
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 3: Now are you are you heading home after today? Are

2082
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,839
Speaker 3: you staying at the combine for another night? What's your schedule?

2083
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 28: Jeff Caldwell talks tomorrow at ten I think, and Jake

2084
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 28: Bolde is going to start on field drills here in

2085
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 28: about forty five minutes now looking forward to seeing what

2086
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 28: he does.

2087
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 3: Now the combine doesn't go into all hours of the night.

2088
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 3: What else are you doing to pass your time in Indianapolis?

2089
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 3: Are you going to check out the Pacers and Hornets tonight?

2090
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 3: Do you have dinner plans? What's the rest of the

2091
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 3: night look like for Kig and Nickoson and Indy?

2092
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 11: I would actually rather watch Paint drys.

2093
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 28: And go see an NBA game, Okay, so I think.

2094
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's not the pas of the Hoosiers,

2095
01:46:58,360 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go.

2096
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 11: They go to Planet Fitness at some point. Wow, Joe,

2097
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 11: dinner by myself at a bar somewhere and then.

2098
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 2: Go to bed. Hold on a second for a guy

2099
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 2: who a living for a living watches one of the

2100
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 2: worst offensive basketball programs on the planet. Wow, you don't

2101
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 2: want to go to an NBA game just to just

2102
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,560
Speaker 2: to be reminded? I want to You didn't want to

2103
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 2: set a bar high? That's what it's supposed to look

2104
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 2: like by the way those guys can score the basketball. Wow.

2105
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

2106
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 11: The guys that only play half the games in a

2107
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 11: season because they don't care about their fans.

2108
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,719
Speaker 2: Get them, guys, Okay, the NBA is not perfect. Nobody

2109
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 2: said it is, but that is a good product. How

2110
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 2: dare you?

2111
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 28: Well, you're the one often you're the one that wants

2112
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 28: the MLB to be perfect and have strikes that miss.

2113
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 2: By point one inches. Damn right I do.

2114
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 11: Why can't we just figure it out?

2115
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 3: Perfection is not attainable, but you can always go for it, Kegan,

2116
01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 3: eleven dollars gets you in the building tonight, that field house.

2117
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 3: Brenda will let you know that he's planning fitness is

2118
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 3: more than eleven bucks.

2119
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 28: You know, we're going to watch an India game in person.

2120
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:11,839
Speaker 28: Would be bad for my health if I'm not doing.

2121
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 3: That very well, Kegan, enjoy your time in Indianapolis at

2122
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 3: the Combine and we'll talk soon.

2123
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 11: Bye, Kean, Thankstanning, and see you guys.

2124
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,560
Speaker 3: That is Keig and Nicholson live from Indianapolis at the

2125
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 3: NFL Combine, keeping track with all things. So it's kind

2126
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 3: of a too fast you can talk. You can talk

2127
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 3: there about the NBA.

2128
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of came at you with MLB too,

2129
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah in the back pocket. That's apparently wanting the abs

2130
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,599
Speaker 2: and strike zone to be perfect is a bad take. Yeah,

2131
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:43,560
Speaker 2: he was ready for you to push back there. I

2132
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 2: like Kegan a lot. Yeah, we'll take a break. I

2133
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 2: do too.

2134
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 3: We'll take some phone calls five one three seven, fifteen thirty.

2135
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 3: We've got some baseball in college hoops to get to

2136
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 3: a Reds lineup.

2137
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 2: In a Reds lineup, including the lineup of pictures scheduled

2138
01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:00,120
Speaker 2: to pitch for the Reds against the Pods today NOx

2139
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station is no better

2140
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 2: way to the station.

2141
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:10,719
Speaker 1: Tony Pike Sincy three sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

2142
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 3: Dude, welcome back since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen

2143
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Reds are up. They're gonna play

2144
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 3: a baseball game at three h five today against the Padres.

2145
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 3: All right, let's get choked up thinking about the combine

2146
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 3: Reds winners yesterday. That's their their second straight win in

2147
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 3: spring training. Things are heating up. Don't let them get hot.

2148
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 3: Watch out for these Reds and watch out for soon

2149
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 3: to be fan favorite JJ Bledah left handed power bat,

2150
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 3: the left handed power bat that the team so desperately needs.

2151
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 2: And if we're wondering about that update in the resume,

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01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 2: well it one just bla day. We have Al Stewart

2153
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 2: bomb yesterday as well. Big Sally turned on one that

2154
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 2: was like up under his elbows yep, and launched it

2155
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 2: out like a scud missile right over the wall and left.

2156
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 3: South Stewart and JJ Bledet combined for over nine hundred

2157
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 3: feet of home runs yesterday, four point forty off the

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01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 3: South Stewart bat.

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01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 2: If you go and look at like because I was

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01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 2: running the game, so I had like the MLB Game

2161
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 2: Day thing where they showed like the pitches come in.

2162
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 2: That pitch was so far inside it's incredible. He got

2163
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 2: that around to it the barrel to it. Now. I

2164
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:33,680
Speaker 2: don't know that he should be making a habit of

2165
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 2: swinging at those pitches, but if you're gonna put him over.

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01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 3: The wall, yep, go ahead. Also a good outing, I

2167
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 3: thought from Nicolodolo. He did allow two hits and two innings,

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01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 3: but struck out four batters, did not walk a batter,

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01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 3: and for the second straight game, Red's pitching combined only

2170
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 3: allows one walk. They're getting better, so worked on the

2171
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 3: uh a little bit of the control. Luis May had

2172
01:50:56,160 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 3: a good outing yesterday, a three strikeout, perfect inning, so

2173
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:03,799
Speaker 3: good stuff. From the Reds yesterday. Good stuff from Lodolo

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01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 3: Blaedet South Stuart. They turn around today for their fifth

2175
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 3: spring training game against the Padres. How will that one

2176
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 3: shape up?

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01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 2: Well, Tony, Here's how the Red Legs will line them up.

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01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 2: It's a three zero five first pitch in Goodyear back

2179
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 2: home for the Red Legs against San Diego. Here is

2180
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 2: how it will line up. This is interesting from the

2181
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 2: very start. Leading off and playing left field, TJ Friedel

2182
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 2: Okay batting second. The second baseman, Matt McClean, Lie de

2183
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 2: Lacruz bats third. He's the shortstop. Au Haneo Suarez is

2184
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 2: the cleanup hitter and third baseman. Spencer Steer will bat

2185
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,719
Speaker 2: fifth and play first. Will Benson is the DH. He's

2186
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 2: the sixth batter Okay. The seventh batter is right fielder

2187
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 2: Noel V. Marte. Batting eighth and playing center field is

2188
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 2: Dane Myers. The ninth batter and catcher is Will Banfield,

2189
01:51:56,240 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 2: who with the hurler Chase Burns on the mound once more.

2190
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 2: For Cincinnati, it's Freedol McClean, de la Cruz, Swarez, Steer, Benson, Marte, Myers,

2191
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:12,600
Speaker 2: Banfield with Burns on the mound. The notables there Sworez

2192
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 2: in the field at third, Friedel in left, and Spencer

2193
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,679
Speaker 2: Steer has not yet played the outfield in a spring

2194
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 2: training game, he gets the start at first base. Here's

2195
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,599
Speaker 2: the lineup of pitchers that are scheduled to appear today

2196
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 2: against the Padres, and not only is it Chase Burns tone,

2197
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 2: it's also Chase Petty. Okay, don't believe he is related

2198
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 2: to Richard or Kyle or any of the Petty Racing

2199
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 2: royalty family. Graham Ashcraft will come in and try not

2200
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 2: to walk the first batter he faces. Connor Phillips, tj

2201
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 2: Antone friend of the Show, and Big Sugar Zach Maxwell

2202
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 2: all scheduled to pitch today for the Red Legs. I

2203
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,719
Speaker 2: think Hunter will pitch in his first game Hunter Green,

2204
01:52:58,240 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon.

2205
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 3: The fact too, that you're ideally gonna get Chase Burns

2206
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 3: some reps against Fernando Tatis, Junior, Manny Machado and Ty

2207
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:08,640
Speaker 3: France are all in the lineup today for.

2208
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 2: The potre That's right, Franz had a nice little with

2209
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 2: the Reds. He did. I got no beef with Ty France.

2210
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 3: So give Chase Burns some of bouts against some good

2211
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 3: hitters as well. I like it for the Cincinnati Reds

2212
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 3: now we like I think that the the ceiling and

2213
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 3: the opportunity for the Reds this season to maybe do

2214
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 3: some some good things. I don't think nationally people are

2215
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 3: viewing the red Legs too high. They David Schoenfield ESPN

2216
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 3: dot Com went ahead and looked ahead and projected all

2217
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 3: stars out of the American and National League. Hunter Green

2218
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 3: was the only all Star that would represent the Cincinnati Reds.

2219
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 3: But it's how ESPN dot Com and Brad Doolittle, who

2220
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 3: we've referenced on times of this show, he ranked every

2221
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 3: Major League baseball lineup from just a hitting standpoint. He

2222
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 3: had the Reds ranked all the way down below the Cubs,

2223
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 3: below the Brewers, below the Pittsburgh Pirates. He is the

2224
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,639
Speaker 3: Reds coming in just ahead of the Cardinals at twenty

2225
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,400
Speaker 3: fourth overall. Listen to the grades that he gives the

2226
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 3: Reds hitting D patience C power D plus, base running

2227
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 3: B plus, durability C plus, depth C versus right handed pitcher.

2228
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 3: He gives them an F versus left handed pitcher, a

2229
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 3: C minus. He claims that they have two stars and

2230
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 3: three holes on the roster. Are the Reds offensively being

2231
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 3: slept on in any way? For what it's worth, Doolittle

2232
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 3: has the base lineup for the Reds as Friedel, Marte,

2233
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 3: Ellie Suarez, Stuart Stevenson, Blade McClain and Hayes.

2234
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think so. I think that's a fair

2235
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 2: assessment at the team. Matt McCain was horrible last year.

2236
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 2: Ke Brian Hayes has always been a terrible batter. Spencer

2237
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 2: or south Stewart, you don't know much about him as

2238
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 2: they're a full big league season at all. Ellie de

2239
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 2: la Cruz fell off the face of the earth in

2240
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 2: the second half of last year. Au Haaneo Suarez strikes

2241
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 2: out as much as anybody in Major League Baseball. TJ.

2242
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 2: Friedel kind of fell off at the end of last

2243
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 2: year as well. It is a prove it year for

2244
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys, and last year they were

2245
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 2: one of the worst offenses in baseball. They didn't hit

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01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 2: the ball out of the ballpark, they didn't hit the

2247
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 2: ball in the gaps, they didn't have timely hitting. They

2248
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 2: weren't good with runners in scoring position. Until you prove

2249
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 2: that you can do otherwise with a group that's mostly

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01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 2: the same. Even adding the home runs of au Haneo

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01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 2: Suarez may not matter if you can't do the rest

2252
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:49,919
Speaker 2: of that stuff. So I think that's a fair assessment.

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01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 3: It has their wins based on the lineup, So you

2254
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 3: take the pitching staff out, they have them as the

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01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 3: same win total as the Saint Louis Cardinals just based

2256
01:55:59,880 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 3: on the line up. Now the pitching is going to

2257
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 3: help obviously the Reds, and that's where you see their

2258
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 3: totals kind of bounce back to where they are. But

2259
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 3: seventy seven point nine based on just the offense for

2260
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 3: the Reds, that's twenty fourth in Major League Baseball. So

2261
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 3: that's where they're viewed in that sense, and obviously that's

2262
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 3: not how they're always viewed locally or maybe the upside

2263
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 3: of what some of these players can do. But to

2264
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 3: your point, South Stewart's an unknown. How does Bledat fit in?

2265
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 3: McLain and Hayes not great options. It's just that there's

2266
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 3: a lot of hope going into the build up of

2267
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,880
Speaker 3: this roster and hoping that Suarez can can you know,

2268
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 3: eclipse forty home runs in Great American Ballpark and.

2269
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 2: You just don't know.

2270
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 3: There's not the proven commodities. For the Reds, you're counting

2271
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 3: on a leap and a step forward for Spencer Steer,

2272
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 3: for Matt McClain. Noelve Martin what a full season looks

2273
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 3: like there, there's just a lot of what ifs, and

2274
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 3: I understand that part.

2275
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 2: For the Cincinnati restch you could put the if man

2276
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 2: costume on every single player on that team. True, it's

2277
01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 2: just a reality. True. Let's take a break, we'll come back.

2278
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 3: We'll see if we can squeeze a call or two

2279
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 3: in before we get to Moagar for quick hits. Next

2280
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:21,919
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, are you experiencing

2281
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 3: on one of Achs and pain?

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01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 2: Welcome back?

2283
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 3: Since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

2284
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 2: We'll try to fit in a call or two. Oh Jeff,

2285
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 2: what's going on? Hey guys?

2286
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:45,920
Speaker 8: How you doing today?

2287
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 2: Good?

2288
01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 8: How are you pretty good? Iize I haven't listened all day,

2289
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 8: So if someone's already addressed this, I apologize. Did I

2290
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 8: hear Austin say earlier he has not seen Bull Durham?

2291
01:57:58,120 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 2: He did? That's correct, He did say that.

2292
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 4: That is correct.

2293
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 8: Okay, y'all need to step up your interview process. That

2294
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 8: should not have been the first question in the interview,

2295
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 8: but at least the third or fourth.

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01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 11: I don't understand how you got your job.

2298
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how I've made it this far either, Jeff,

2299
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm historically awful with movies.

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01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:18,440
Speaker 8: That movie is full of quotes.

2301
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 9: It is a classic.

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01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 8: But another one, another quote, real quick, And if you

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01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 8: don't know Bull Durham, you're not gonna know this one either.

2304
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 8: But every time I watch somebody doing a press conference,

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01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 8: either before a game, after a game, or like Duke

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01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 8: the other day or whenever he did the last one,

2307
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 8: I think of the scene in Melbrooks History of the

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01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 8: World Part one during the Roman Empire series. Mel Brooks

2309
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 8: walks up to a window and it's the unemployment window

2310
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 8: that's being run by b Arthur and she goes, they

2311
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 8: our occupation. He goes, stand up philosopher. She's like what

2312
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:59,080
Speaker 8: he says, stand up philosopher and he explains what that

2313
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 8: means and she goes, oh, a BS artist. Did you

2314
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 8: be as last week?

2315
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 11: No?

2316
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 8: Did you try to BS last week?

2317
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 11: Yes?

2318
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 8: Well, this is your last week of bsing or else

2319
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 8: you're going to be cut off because most of those,

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01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:18,480
Speaker 8: most of those press conferences are just full of dribble.

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01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 8: They're never really probably never really going to give you

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01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 8: anything good to go with. And I get that. I

2323
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 8: mean that, you know, Mike Brown's not going to hand

2324
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 8: over the keys to the empire and just let somebody

2325
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 8: go to there and ramble on. But I mean, I

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01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 8: understand why they have to do them, but they just

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01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 8: don't make a whole lot of sense most of the time.

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01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that that's good, Jeff, Thank you for the call.

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01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. We appreciate that.

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01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 4: Guys.

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01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 2: We'll try to squeeze in here. Mike. What's up?

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01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:44,880
Speaker 11: Hey, Tom?

2333
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 2: Thanks?

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01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 9: Thanks awesome. Hey, what were the top five lineups?

2335
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 13: That's that guy rated.

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01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:52,200
Speaker 11: I'd like to hear the top five.

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01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:55,120
Speaker 3: Uh, Dodgers off the top of my head. I don't

2338
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 3: have it pulled up in front of me. Dodgers were

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01:59:56,800 --> 02:00:03,520
Speaker 3: easily number one on the list. Number two, Uh, the

2340
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:06,839
Speaker 3: Atlanta Braves. He had the Mets at three, the Mariners

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02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,520
Speaker 3: at four, and then the Blue Jays at five, and

2342
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:10,800
Speaker 3: then the Athletics at six.

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02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 8: Wow.

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02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:17,640
Speaker 9: Wow, wow, boy, you got me good on that one. Hey,

2345
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:19,800
Speaker 9: let me ask, are the trees starting to get any

2346
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 9: greenery on them, yet.

2347
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 2: They were covered in white. Today.

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02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 3: It's one of the most it's it's the craziest day.

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02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 3: We woke up this morning and the trees were covered

2350
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 3: in snow. And by the time lunch rolled around, it

2351
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:33,600
Speaker 3: was all gone. All the snow was gone. It's insane

2352
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:34,080
Speaker 3: right now.

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02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 9: That's Cincinnati early.

2354
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:41,480
Speaker 2: It was like it was a lot of snow too.

2355
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 12: Like it was.

2356
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 2: It was the most beautiful, like something out of a

2357
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:48,240
Speaker 2: Christmas movie type of snow that I can ever remember

2358
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 2: since I've lived here. It was gorgeous and now it's

2359
02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:53,720
Speaker 2: all gone. Yeah, it was four hours ago, like a.

2360
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 9: Real light powdery snow.

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02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was short lived. It was thick and wet,

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02:00:58,000 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 2: them thick flakes.

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Speaker 9: Mike, I'll be damn big play. I'll be going. They

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Speaker 9: could have seen that. You should have too, I know it.

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Speaker 9: Although I ain't complaining about seventy four, but you shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I told you, brother, those Gators ain't no joke.

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Speaker 2: They're good.

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Speaker 9: Ain't no joke, they're yeah.

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Speaker 3: And there are two there are two losses in conference.

2371
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:26,680
Speaker 3: Aren't against the best teams.

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Speaker 2: It was games.

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Speaker 3: They just didn't show up when they needed to They

2374
02:01:29,080 --> 02:01:31,600
Speaker 3: lost against Auburn and Missouri, but all the big dogs

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Speaker 3: that they've come across, they've they've taken care.

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Speaker 9: Of Yeah, weather at home, war on the road. Yes,

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Speaker 9: And I put some money down yesterday on the on

2378
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Speaker 9: the NBA Finals is I'm so hot on the Pistons

2379
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Speaker 9: and then Wemby and they San Antonio has about five

2380
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Speaker 9: really good guards. They are so deep at the guard spot.

2381
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Speaker 9: I'm telling you watch out.

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Speaker 3: And they defend. They defend really well. They're one of

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Speaker 3: the best defensive teams in basketball. And a lot of

2384
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Speaker 3: that helps when you talk about having Victor Webbin Yama.

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Speaker 25: They really are.

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Speaker 9: Mike Evans is talking about San Francisco, but then he

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Speaker 9: said Buffalo, he'd like to play, but.

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Speaker 11: It comes too cold.

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Speaker 9: He used to Tampa.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but hey, real quick.

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Speaker 9: Austin mentioned Wally Post earlier.

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Speaker 11: He was a stud.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he was kind of a stud.

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Speaker 2: Austin.

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Speaker 9: I used to go down and watch the Reds with

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Speaker 9: my dad at Crosley and they used to platoon Wally

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Speaker 9: Post and Gus Bell out in left field. And I

2398
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 9: think Wally's lafetime bag heres was about two sixty six.

2399
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Speaker 9: He hit a couple hundred home runs, while Gus was

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Speaker 9: a left handed hit. Her hit about two eighty one.

2401
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 9: He had a couple of home runs. They both had

2402
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 9: about seven hundred rbs. But the real studs on that

2403
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:49,920
Speaker 9: team were, of course, were Frank Robinson and then Veda Penson.

2404
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:53,800
Speaker 9: Gordy Coleman was the first baseman, Roy McMillan was the

2405
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:58,320
Speaker 9: short stop and UH and UH Gene Freeze was a

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Speaker 9: third basement. Anyway, on baring people, thank you, Mike good Man, have.

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Speaker 2: A good one.

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Speaker 3: We uh post Wally Post. We've got Mo waiting on

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Speaker 3: UH standby for us. Most just announcement. We've got a

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02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 3: special announcement and it's not Moe's reach. He has he

2411
02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:21,360
Speaker 3: has done some combine measurables. Yes, we'll get to those,

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02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:23,840
Speaker 3: but a special announcement first when we come back ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station for a.

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Speaker 1: Quick hits on Tony Tykes since six.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back six. We have connected with Mo.

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Speaker 3: The Mo Wagger Show coming up in just a few moments.

2417
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 3: He will share the rest of his combine measurables that

2418
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:44,760
Speaker 3: he has taken earlier this afternoon. We'll get to that

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02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 3: in just a few moments. Before that, Mo you know,

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02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 3: we're doing daily countdowns of uh days until opening Day,

2421
02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:55,440
Speaker 3: and we are uh we're we're keeping track of what's

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02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:57,800
Speaker 3: going on at spring training and before you know it,

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Speaker 3: opening Day will be here and and all the pageantry

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02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 3: that surrounds that at Great American Ballpark. But before you

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Speaker 3: go into the game on opening Day, we have a

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02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 3: special announcement on how folks may be able to join

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02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:12,440
Speaker 3: us and hang out with us if they want to

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02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:15,000
Speaker 3: before the game actually has its first pitch.

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Speaker 4: Why would they not want to?

2430
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:18,879
Speaker 2: It's great, great point, so true.

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02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, why would you not want to hang

2432
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 4: out with us before the Reds begin the march to

2433
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:28,920
Speaker 4: the World Series one month from today? So it's going

2434
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:31,440
Speaker 4: to be awesome. Who's in charge of making the announcement?

2435
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:32,160
Speaker 4: Which one of us?

2436
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 2: We were all three charged with doing it? Yes, so

2437
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:40,800
Speaker 2: okay on the count of three, surprise.

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02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm not sure anybody is going to be stunned to

2439
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:46,760
Speaker 4: find out where we are, because we are going to

2440
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:49,920
Speaker 4: be where we've been since they opened. But I'm excited

2441
02:04:49,960 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 4: to be back. Let one of you say the name

2442
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:54,880
Speaker 4: of the location, same with in the name of the establishment. Well,

2443
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:56,440
Speaker 4: they named the show after you, Tony why don't you

2444
02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 4: go ahead?

2445
02:04:56,760 --> 02:04:58,200
Speaker 3: Well, I know it's a block and a bridge away

2446
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 3: from the ballpark. Are good friends at Smoke Justice the

2447
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 3: home of the heater Yes opening day mo Austin myself

2448
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 3: Smoke Justice a block and.

2449
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:12,560
Speaker 2: A bridge from the ballpark.

2450
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 4: It's the one day a year, I believe, where the

2451
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:17,760
Speaker 4: three of us get to be on with each other

2452
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:20,600
Speaker 4: at the same time. Beyond like the ten minutes we

2453
02:05:20,720 --> 02:05:24,600
Speaker 4: do here, so super stokes. Smoke Justice has been an

2454
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 4: awesome partner to us. Obviously an amazing place to hang

2455
02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 4: out before games, after games. The food is terrific, the

2456
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:36,240
Speaker 4: wings are awesome. If you love smoke meat, you're absolutely

2457
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 4: gonna love Smoke Justice. And they have been awesome to

2458
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:44,840
Speaker 4: us there across a number of different a number of

2459
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 4: different things that we've done there. But they also have

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02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:51,200
Speaker 4: coming up now. This is next week the Bonded Spirit

2461
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 4: Bluegrass Festival, Yes, which they've sold most of their tickets.

2462
02:05:57,480 --> 02:06:00,360
Speaker 4: They haven't sold all their tickets. This is going to

2463
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:05,000
Speaker 4: be an absolutely awesome event. It starts on the third,

2464
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:09,320
Speaker 4: which is Tuesday, and it goes clear through the seventh,

2465
02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:12,800
Speaker 4: which is Saturday night. That is the main event, and

2466
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:15,200
Speaker 4: you can get tickets and you can learn more about

2467
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 4: this event at Bondedspirit dot com. It is brought to

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Speaker 4: you by Smoke Justice and it is going to be

2469
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:25,960
Speaker 4: an incredible event Bondedspirit dot com with right music, great food,

2470
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Speaker 4: great time.

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Speaker 2: Steel Drivers are going to be there and they are

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02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 2: a couple of my I mean, they're one of my favorites,

2473
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:35,320
Speaker 2: like I've discovered them over the last year. Big fan

2474
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 2: of the steel Drivers.

2475
02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 4: Now for the opening day show, I want to send

2476
02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:43,240
Speaker 4: out an invitation. If you guys don't mind, please please,

2477
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,480
Speaker 4: I want to invite the parents of the young man

2478
02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:50,880
Speaker 4: who deface the Marty Brenneman statue because I want to

2479
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:56,480
Speaker 4: know was your young man's experience like what my experience

2480
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 4: would have been with my parents had I done that.

2481
02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:02,000
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about that a lot. I don't know. I look,

2482
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:05,520
Speaker 4: there are obviously kids who do far worse things. At

2483
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 4: the end of the day, hopefully this doesn't define this guy,

2484
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,600
Speaker 4: but I'm I'm kind of I've been thinking about, like,

2485
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:12,480
Speaker 4: what would it have been like had my mom or

2486
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:14,800
Speaker 4: dad gotten the phone call, Hey, we have your son

2487
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Speaker 4: on video. No damaging a statue of a Hall of

2488
02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:22,440
Speaker 4: Fame play by play guy. I'm just I'm trying to

2489
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:25,160
Speaker 4: envision what life for me would have been like in

2490
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:27,960
Speaker 4: thirteen year old. Thirteen years old, had my parents gotten

2491
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:30,280
Speaker 4: that phone call. So I want to hear from the

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02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:33,200
Speaker 4: parents of that kid. The kids no longer allowed to

2493
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 4: the ballpark, not necessarily, sure, I want to hang out

2494
02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 4: with the kid, let him go to school. Seems like

2495
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:39,960
Speaker 4: he has some things he can learn. But if the

2496
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 4: parents want to come down to smoke justice, I'd love

2497
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:42,920
Speaker 4: to interview that.

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02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:44,640
Speaker 3: I think that's a great point. I would have been

2499
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 3: scared to death to go home after something like that. Yeah, dude,

2500
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:50,720
Speaker 3: did you guys ever get paddled when you were a kid?

2501
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:54,160
Speaker 3: Because I did. Oh, there was the paddle, there was

2502
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:58,520
Speaker 3: the belt, there was yep, there was the twig or stick.

2503
02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 3: You could go out and pick off a track array

2504
02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:01,880
Speaker 3: of woids. We had a hill in our backyard that

2505
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:03,720
Speaker 3: I would have to run that I was terrified of.

2506
02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:08,160
Speaker 4: We had a dad had a ruler. It wasn't used

2507
02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:09,800
Speaker 4: for measuring. Dad had a ruler.

2508
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 11: Uh.

2509
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:13,920
Speaker 4: And so I'm not advocating child abuse, but I just

2510
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:16,960
Speaker 4: I want to know, like, what was the ride home

2511
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:18,760
Speaker 4: from jail, Like what was the ride home from the

2512
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:21,480
Speaker 4: police station, Like for that kid, And did mom and

2513
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 4: dad behave in the same way that my mom and

2514
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 4: dad would have behaved. That's what I want to know.

2515
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:31,640
Speaker 2: Marty's door and apologize to him.

2516
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:34,880
Speaker 4: That's what the punishment should have been, right, Like, come

2517
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:40,480
Speaker 4: down and have Marty lecture the kid. Right, you know

2518
02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:44,560
Speaker 4: what's any sort of scared straight thing? Yeah, you can

2519
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:46,520
Speaker 4: go to you can go to Juvie for six months,

2520
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:49,040
Speaker 4: or you can spend an hour with Marty brennanman just

2521
02:08:49,240 --> 02:08:51,200
Speaker 4: be reading you for damaging his statue.

2522
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:53,960
Speaker 2: No thanks, You want to talk about getting taught a

2523
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 2: lesson Grand Canyon Mule the off the record? What do

2524
02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:00,800
Speaker 2: you got coming up today?

2525
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:00,920
Speaker 18: Mo?

2526
02:09:01,160 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 4: On your show? It's arm sized day. Have you guys

2527
02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 4: measured your arms?

2528
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:10,000
Speaker 2: No? I was in the ninety eighth percentile back in

2529
02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:12,880
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. How much do you think your

2530
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:17,160
Speaker 2: arms have shrunk since then? Ooh, I don't know. Okay,

2531
02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:18,280
Speaker 2: they have to remeasure.

2532
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:22,280
Speaker 4: Well, if you call the show today, you have to

2533
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:27,720
Speaker 4: give us your specific it's our measurement day. So like,

2534
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:29,600
Speaker 4: let's have a discussion and we'll do this today. Like

2535
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:32,880
Speaker 4: how much should this matter? Because there's a reason they

2536
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 4: do it. There's a reason they they do the measurables.

2537
02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:37,800
Speaker 4: There's a reason they check out to see how all

2538
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:40,880
Speaker 4: these prospects, what their arm length is. How much should

2539
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 4: it matter and how much should it matter if ruben

2540
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:44,760
Speaker 4: Bain is there when the Bengals are on the clock

2541
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:47,360
Speaker 4: in the first round, given that they're the team that

2542
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 4: has leaned into traits instead of, you know, as much

2543
02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:53,800
Speaker 4: what they see on film. So we'll make that make

2544
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:56,400
Speaker 4: sense with ruben Bain. Our guy Sam brook House from

2545
02:09:56,400 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 4: a Sumer Sports is at the combine. He's going to

2546
02:09:58,520 --> 02:10:01,000
Speaker 4: join us at four thirty five. We're looking forward to that.

2547
02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 4: Dax McCarty from Apple TV on FC Cincinnati. I love

2548
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:11,600
Speaker 4: the fact that Brendan Soresby is being sued. I don't

2549
02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:14,000
Speaker 4: know if you guys heard about this what got reported

2550
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:16,720
Speaker 4: yesterday that you see issuing him. But today, and this

2551
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:19,680
Speaker 4: comes from Indianapolis, Joe Royer is going to sue Brendan

2552
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 4: Soresby for never throwing him the ball.

2553
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:26,320
Speaker 2: As well he should.

2554
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:30,520
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I mean, poor Joe Royer is got to

2555
02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:32,320
Speaker 4: be up there in any talking to NFL people, like

2556
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:35,160
Speaker 4: explaining away like I was always open. You know you

2557
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:37,240
Speaker 4: like trades, boy, I got the trades. Yeah, but where

2558
02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 4: are the catches? Well, the dudes at Texas Tech now

2559
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:42,240
Speaker 4: collecting five mil. He's got to be in court. Maybe

2560
02:10:42,320 --> 02:10:44,960
Speaker 4: I can piggyback on that, hire the same lawyer and

2561
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:47,320
Speaker 4: sue Brendan for never throwing me the football.

2562
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 3: There is a lot of reasons I wanted to be

2563
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 3: at the combine, meow, perhaps none more than for you

2564
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:53,400
Speaker 3: and I. We could have just stood by Joe Royer

2565
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:58,080
Speaker 3: and offered our opinion on Joe Royer to the crowds.

2566
02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:01,760
Speaker 2: You know what, Joe football, Let us answer that. Let

2567
02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:03,560
Speaker 2: us answer that one. We'll take this one. He could

2568
02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 2: have gotten more catches today.

2569
02:11:05,760 --> 02:11:07,680
Speaker 4: I could have thrown him a ball and said, there

2570
02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:09,880
Speaker 4: you go, Joe, there's your one catch per game. There's

2571
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:11,920
Speaker 4: a one catch per day that you got in college.

2572
02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:12,840
Speaker 19: Uh.

2573
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Speaker 4: The Chad Brendle's going to join us to talk about

2574
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:18,000
Speaker 4: this coming up at three forty five. Justin Vive, who

2575
02:11:18,080 --> 02:11:20,480
Speaker 4: as soon to be the all time leading point scorer

2576
02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 4: for the Cincinnati Cyclones, is going to talk hockey with

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Speaker 4: us coming up at five twenty and Uh, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be a fun show.

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Speaker 2: Well, we hope you enjoy all of that, Mo, and

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Speaker 2: we look forward to talking again. Tomorrow. By the way,

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Speaker 2: what'd you make of Yukon and Saint John's last night?

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: Have the Patinos collectively ever taken a loss that bad

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Speaker 3: combined forty two points?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean the Xavier game and they made it

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Speaker 4: close ish, but I'm I had an eye on the

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Speaker 4: Saint John's game, which, by the way, if you bought

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Speaker 4: Peacocks specifically for that last night, you should use your

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Speaker 4: money back. And I'm thinking the same thing, like, are

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Speaker 4: Richard and Rick going to lose by a combined seventy points?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: A rough night for both? Yeah, a rough night for

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Speaker 4: Richard at Providence and a rough night for Rick, whose

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Speaker 4: postgame press conference lasted well like ad minute in ten seconds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, interesting stuff. MO, have a great show. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk again tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: That is mowagar arm length day. This has been since

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Speaker 3: he three to sixty again. Make your opening day plans

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Speaker 3: now to join MO and Austin and myself I smoke justice.

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Speaker 2: No better place to be get the plans set now

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Speaker 2: you get to meet people like Marcus. We'll see you there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Reverend Richard Brewery brewing, Wow, come back? Maybe someone

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Speaker 2: maybe someone will climb the bourbon ladder.

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Speaker 3: Hank Hill was there last year. Who will climb this

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Speaker 3: year's bourbon ladder? Oh my lord, it's since he three

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Speaker 3: to sixty. Have a great rest of your Thursday. Mowager

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Speaker 3: is next on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station

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Speaker 13: Until u c KY, Cincinnati, Make us the number one

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Speaker 13: preset on your car radio and on the free knew

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Speaker 13: it improved, iHeartRadio app free never sounded so good, ESPN

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Speaker 13: fifteen thirty Chris