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Speaker 3: number one our first hour of twenty twenty six, by

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Speaker 3: of fun. Five, three, four nowt here time now four?

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Speaker 3: Five questions, Well, actually three, but five sounds like more

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Speaker 3: than four. Question number one NFL no uddle.

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Speaker 1: Lot common watch head coach fighting today surprises you the most?

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Speaker 1: A John Gannon in Arizona, b Pete Carroll in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: see Kevin Stefanski and Cleveland or d Raheem Morris in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I would say Raheem Morris in Atlanta. I think he

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Speaker 3: had back to back eight and nine seasons they won.

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Speaker 3: They win four or five six seven games to finish

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Speaker 3: the season next seven. Again, that's sort of like the

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Speaker 3: Vikings winning games that are relatively meaning. What's while they

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Speaker 3: were me as far other than if you're counting the

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Speaker 3: building blocks tough. You know, Pete Carroll, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: like that's I'm ready to say the game is passed.

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Speaker 2: He was on there for one year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just wasn't good. Stefanski has been in Cleveland

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Speaker 3: a long time, right, He's had plenty.

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Speaker 3: That would be the one. I guess Morris was the

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Speaker 3: one that would probably surprise. How about you?

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Speaker 1: I guess the Pete Carroll one, just because he was

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Speaker 1: just there for one year, right, I mean, it's not

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Speaker 1: often a guy gets fired after one year, especially a

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Speaker 1: guy of his pedigree that's had success in the past.

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Speaker 1: It's like he just he was some young guy that

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Speaker 1: and then realize, oh, he can't coach. So but you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Tom Brady been making decisions on the next coach.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Tom Brady will be the coach.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers are heading to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs after last night's twenty six twenty four win

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Speaker 1: over the Baltimore Ravens. Comin what'd you think of last

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Speaker 1: night's roller coaster game? And can Rogers bring back some postseason.

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Speaker 3: No, their first game is against Houston. Houston.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna have a problem.

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Speaker 3: I think Houston. I think they could have a problem

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Speaker 3: against Houston. The defense is really go though. Yesterday he

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Speaker 3: gave up all sorts of points and I don't know

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Speaker 3: but uh, it was a fun game to watch. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I I don't like openly weep

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Speaker 3: They're like the Maytag repair man guy, right, They just

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Speaker 3: games go by where they're really not a factor. Late

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Speaker 3: Though Pittsburgh wouldn't have had to have gone home, they

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Speaker 2: The Ravens were gonna look goots too, by the way, correct.

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Speaker 3: Then the Ravens drive down and they get in figgy range,

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Speaker 3: And the gal that's doing the I can't think of

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Speaker 1: He could still play at a decent enough level. I

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Speaker 1: Can I say something controversial up that's interesting about that

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Speaker 1: before Loop kicks that field goal. Baltimore had fourteen seconds

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, now.

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Speaker 1: I get there is risk in running the ball and

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Speaker 2: The difference between what ended up being a.

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Speaker 1: Forty four year I get a forty four yard field

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's you could have. You could have get

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Speaker 3: the quarterback sneak. You get a quarterback sneak. Yeah, roll

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Speaker 2: I agree, all right.

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Speaker 1: Last one, the your Lions beat the Bears in nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixteen yesterday in Chicago, Common. Did the Bears performance give

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Speaker 3: Well, it's different than it was. Two losses in a

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Speaker 3: what I don't remember who was calling the game yesterday

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Speaker 3: I I didn't expect that kind of performance from Detroit,

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Speaker 3: Flores always seems to wreak havoc on most you know,

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Speaker 3: not every team. There are teams at score points. I

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Speaker 3: they would get steam mooved by the Bears because the

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Speaker 3: Bears had more to play for, right, But yeah, it

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Speaker 3: does make you wonder, you know, the bear the Bears

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Speaker 3: I think they did. They set an NFL record for

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Speaker 3: less to go. I think that's what it was, six

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Speaker 2: They'd still be my pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's hard Seattle with Donald's playing solid,

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Speaker 3: And I know it's easy to oh, you're gonna you're

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Speaker 3: I I like the way Seattle's play.

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Speaker 4: It's now time to take an in depth look at

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Speaker 4: the welfare of the Wolves.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards scored thirty five points despite even sitting out

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Speaker 1: the fourth as the Wolves dominated the Washington Wizards one

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Speaker 1: Points in fourteen rebounds for his fifteenth double double of

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Speaker 1: what's sticks out to you from the wolves dominating win

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess that when they're interested, they

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Speaker 3: and they play connected. That's that's the seems like that's

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Speaker 3: they're they're a good club. But I don't recall which

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Speaker 3: Aunt was beside himself. A matter of fact, he left

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Speaker 3: thirty forty points behind, something like that. And so at

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Speaker 3: read it correctly, Finch decided empty the bench. Aunt was

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Speaker 3: felt like, well, you keep us in the game, we

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Speaker 3: but he after that that game, he said, I guess

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Speaker 3: that's just Timberwolves basketball. That's just Timbrild basketball. We'll see

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Speaker 3: if it gets any better as the season progresses. I

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Speaker 3: guess they just make the tournament and move on from there.

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Speaker 3: And that's it for today's edition of five Questions.

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Speaker 1: Well actually three questions, but five sounds like more than four.

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Speaker 3: About a little pup talk Next, Sure, let's talk tenay

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Speaker 3: about is Jolly green joying about the wild? To do that? Next?

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Speaker 1: Here on the Fan, discover the future of Minnesota music

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Speaker 1: At First Avenue's Best New Bands Saturday, January seventeenth. The

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Speaker 1: main room lights up with Shoots Shoots that says GR

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Speaker 1: three G GR three G. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: Greg with the three spelled backwards or not, but LaSalle.

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Speaker 3: Lassal feels like the best.

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Speaker 2: Major and the bird Watcher.

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Speaker 3: My gift is my song, This one's full.

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Speaker 3: Definitely there to see the Doors. Well, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to remember past this weekend.

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Speaker 2: My memories only bring me back to you.

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Speaker 1: But we're good Anaheim and the La Kings over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: So I should take back my my callity for Darren's head.

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Speaker 3: Did I do that? I can't remember if I did that.

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Speaker 1: So now that I'm looking back at the schedule, because

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're doing that one or not

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Speaker 1: weird wonky goals. Now the Wild tied the game, also

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Speaker 3: Can you give me a little John Edwards there and

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Speaker 3: little send a little message out to the no that

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Speaker 2: Your mirror may be closer than they appear.

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Speaker 3: Get a message at the Stars, and I bet this

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Speaker 3: Okay, so as we like to do we we we

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Speaker 2: They're sending guys to minor league contract and and.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings, I don't know. I you know again, things

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Speaker 3: then I think the first episode of Rock Talk and

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Speaker 3: Rock Rank Rock Rank will be Wednesday with Bryan oak

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Speaker 3: is the coach doing an end of the season news

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Speaker 2: It has not been scheduled.

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Speaker 1: I know the locker room is open today, but they

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Speaker 1: I would think so, and uh when they start, probably

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Speaker 1: That's what that's what it's going.

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Speaker 3: To be when they start, yeap and we'll start. We'll

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Speaker 1: The Wild look to take too and give none in

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Speaker 3: Past common man full of I suppose we could open

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Speaker 3: up the talk backs and get some ideas from Viking listeners. Sure,

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Speaker 3: why not, We've got time to kill. Download the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: app if you haven't done so already. Search for stations,

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Speaker 3: find the fan. You'll see a microphone icon in the

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Speaker 3: corner of the screen. You tap it, you up thirty

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Speaker 3: seconds or less to deliver us a message. Will call

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Speaker 3: through some of those and play them. Get some ideas

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Speaker 3: of what people think of where the team's been, where

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Speaker 3: it's at, and where it's going. We've had plenty of

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Speaker 3: disagreement with the host and the interim regarding the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: I think we both kind of I can't remember it.

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Speaker 3: Would you have liked to have seen them re signed

449
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Speaker 3: Arnold or sign Rogers or did you like going full

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Speaker 3: schemehead with McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: I didn't mind at the time.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, looking back at it now, I think it's clear

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Speaker 1: they made the wrong decision. I can at least change

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Speaker 1: my mind, Unlike some of these emailers, I can at

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Speaker 1: least change my mind.

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Speaker 3: Go.

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Speaker 2: They probably screwed that up.

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Speaker 1: And but at the time, you know, we had seen

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Speaker 1: very little of McCarthy. I just remember him being brilliant

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Speaker 1: in a preseason game two years ago, and I liked

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Speaker 1: him out of college and I did not think this

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Speaker 1: year would be this disastrous for him.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: But I am having some doubts about it now.

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Speaker 3: This one says this from Core Competency guy says comments,

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Speaker 3: So your new year's resolution is to continue to repeat

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Speaker 3: your same take on the Vikings that you've aired every

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Speaker 3: day on your show for the last six months. Nice

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Speaker 3: adjustment for the NFL postseason. Two things. Blame the Vikings

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Speaker 3: for that. We'd be already moving on and talking our

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Speaker 3: first postseason matchup or our first round by had they

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Speaker 3: not totally screwed up the quarterback situation, that's it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Or if they'd stop Devin Durbet, that's not my fault,

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Speaker 3: so blame them. Plus, as I also said to my response,

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Speaker 3: because of the purple laid an egg, we got a

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Speaker 3: lot of time to kill, and we need to kill

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Speaker 3: a lot of times. So trust me, we are.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're talking a lot of JJ McCarthy, but

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Speaker 1: basically until the drafts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're be talking a lot about just Vikings. Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean's just the day after the season ended. We're

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Speaker 3: doing a little bit of a post mortem and a

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Speaker 3: would have, should have, could have? What would have happened

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Speaker 3: had they made some different decisions. I still haven't heard.

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Speaker 3: One media member locally asked the Vikings head coach, with

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Speaker 3: hindsight being twenty twenty, do you regret not signed Sam

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Speaker 3: Donald or Aaron Rodgers for one year? No? I think

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Speaker 3: he'd say no, but I'd like to hear it, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because I just think they would have been a better

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Speaker 3: team with either one of those.

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Speaker 2: Either one of those I was reading, was it Seaford?

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Speaker 1: I was reading a couple of days ago, basically like

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Speaker 1: a going back all the way through the decisions they

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Speaker 1: were making last year. Yeah, with Donald, and that basically,

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Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones apparently threw a wrench in their plants

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Speaker 1: that they they wanted Daniel Jones to be here to compete,

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Speaker 1: and then when he went to Indy, you know, Donald

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Speaker 1: had already been gone by then, and you know it

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Speaker 1: sounds like they would.

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Speaker 3: I guess I didn't read that piece.

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, honest, and it was the old There

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Speaker 1: were some that wanted Aaron Rodgers, but they were worried that,

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Speaker 1: like you know, Rogers is the guy that basically is

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Speaker 1: going to change plays at the line of scrimmaging, and

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Speaker 1: like right, that we would go away from the offense,

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Speaker 1: that that McCarthy wouldn't be able to learn through him,

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Speaker 1: which is why they opted to just go with the cart.

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Speaker 3: This one says in two seasons, if Donald has not

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Speaker 3: won a big game, which is very likely, my guess

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Speaker 3: is no one in the Vikings organization is going to say, well,

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Speaker 3: he played well, so we should have given him a

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Speaker 3: three year contract. They'll be able to use them that

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Speaker 3: money to sign three or four different players each season

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Speaker 3: to fill other holes on the team. If Donald does

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Speaker 3: win a big game, then I guess they will regret

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Speaker 3: letting him go. Odds all right, will be the first scenario.

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Speaker 3: Is it that simple to say we could? People keep

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Speaker 3: coming out the money we saved and spent. First of all,

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Speaker 3: the goal and rate for a really good quarterback is

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Speaker 3: a lot more than thirty three million dollars. That was

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Speaker 3: a bargain. As you have said, he has outperformed his contract.

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Speaker 3: Second of all, am I missing something? The two guys

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Speaker 3: we signed on the defensive line and offensive line? Do

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Speaker 3: you think we the Vikings organization, do you think they

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Speaker 3: got what they paid for? Fries played every Yeah, Fries

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Speaker 3: played every game. He didn't from all FIA accounts, he

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Speaker 3: was fine. The other guy, God bless him, he missed

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Speaker 3: most of the games because of concussion. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know what we were paying him, but that was money

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Speaker 3: that was not well spent. Now you don't know that

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Speaker 3: until the season starts.

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Speaker 2: Who are the two defensive guys, Jovon Hargrave Jonathan Allen?

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Speaker 3: How would you grade them? Pro Football Focus?

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Speaker 2: They've Allen's been okay yea.

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Speaker 3: So people want to keep bringing that up though at

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Speaker 3: the time when they signed them. I was all in too,

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Speaker 3: I said, veteran players that had played very well in

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Speaker 3: their careers coming off injuries. They're a little rough around

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Speaker 3: the edges, a little long in the tooth, but if

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Speaker 3: they stay healthy and can play as they have played before,

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Speaker 3: those are good. Well, it didn't work out, so they

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Speaker 3: keep going back that we wouldn't have those guys. Those

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Speaker 3: guys didn't earn their keep, they didn't play up to

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Speaker 3: their contract.

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Speaker 1: Well, even even after signing them. All they had plenty

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Speaker 1: of they had plenty of cap space last year. They

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Speaker 1: could have afforded Aaron Rodgers with that money, Aaron to minimum. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers didn't tell what Darnold's taking. Yeah, so what

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Speaker 1: do you get like twenty I don't think.

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Speaker 3: He got that. I don't think it was that, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know for sure. Receive this email at Comic

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Speaker 3: Cave in dot commisis listen to your show today that

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Speaker 3: both of you were talking about the Vikings and the

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Speaker 3: Lines and you said something about the Lions are going

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Speaker 3: to win the division in twenty twenty six. Ye, that's

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Speaker 3: a joke in my opinion. Yeah, some people in Vikings

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Speaker 3: decision making group need to be fired for thinking that

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy was the answer. What a joke that was.

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Speaker 3: But if you guys think the Lions are going to

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Speaker 3: win the division next year after it ending up in

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Speaker 3: the last place this year, that's kind of preposterous. Knowing

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Speaker 3: that you're Alliance fan, take the beer goggles off, brother.

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Speaker 3: If the Vikings get Joe Burrow from Cincinnati, Vikers will

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Speaker 3: be a contender again.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean that'll change my opinion. If we

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Speaker 2: get Joe Burrow, and.

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Speaker 3: You want, if they get Patrick Mahomess, they're gonna be contendering,

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Speaker 3: especially they keep the defensive coord Yeah, I know getting

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Speaker 3: Bro might be a stretch, but one can always hope.

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Speaker 1: But well, by the way, also he's then he's saying

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Speaker 1: there the thing that that Dalla or de Troy could

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Speaker 1: go from last place to win the Vision. That's exactly

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Speaker 1: what Chicago did this year. Yeah, they were last placed

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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 3: Well, and if if you follow the lines and look

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Speaker 3: at I'm not I always expect only the lines as

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite Saints that have just made up.

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Speaker 3: But if you look at their team, Aman Ross, Saint

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Speaker 3: Brown's coming back. If everybody come out, I think a

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Speaker 3: couple of players of potential free agency.

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Speaker 1: Montgomery, their course tied up. Yeah, and they have the

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Speaker 1: best core in the division.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and their offensive line was beat up much like

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Speaker 3: the Bikings. Yeah, they have a couple of young guys

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Speaker 3: that are making some progress.

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Speaker 2: Their tight end was hurt all year.

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Speaker 3: Their defense again was ravaged in the secondary branch, tearing

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Speaker 3: Arnold and and uh Kirby were all out the entire year.

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Speaker 3: Those guys are game changers for the lines. I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying they're the best in the league. So again, it

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Speaker 3: all depends on that. It's not like the cupboards barrel. No.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I think they have the best core

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Speaker 2: in the division.

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Speaker 3: I think they do as well.

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Speaker 1: I saw they're going to face the Arizona Cardinals next year. Well,

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Speaker 1: we have to face the forty nine ers, then the

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Speaker 1: other two teams have to face the Rams and the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and.

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Speaker 1: Now now all of them are going through the NFC

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Speaker 1: South next year, So the division, the schedule for all

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Speaker 1: the team's a good easier next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this tech, says Jalen Redman outplayed both the defensive

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Speaker 3: line guys by Country miland he was just supposed to

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Speaker 3: be the spot rotational guy, which he.

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Speaker 2: Was their best player. Yeah, wasn't he.

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Speaker 1: Was?

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Speaker 3: He one of those undrafted free agent guys.

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Speaker 1: He's the reason Harrison Phillips got traded. Yeah, so he

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Speaker 1: was great. He had a good year.

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Speaker 3: We signed Bernard and Van Ginkle on the assumption we

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Speaker 3: had a rookie scale. Go back and check that. But

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Speaker 3: if that's what he says, in other words, he said

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Speaker 3: the money we would have spent they.

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Speaker 1: Both at recent I know, I know Bengik got an

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Speaker 1: extension last year to Grenard going to that's what he claims.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he got he got it. He got a

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Speaker 2: contract two years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I thought. But then there's the question

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Speaker 3: of whether Flores is coming, Beflow is coming back, b

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Speaker 3: Flaw is not. Doesn't he's not under contract a matter

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Speaker 3: of fact, doesn't his contract expire like Friday or something.

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Speaker 3: It's sometime I think in the next week or two.

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Speaker 3: His contract just expires. He's good at what he does.

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Speaker 3: The Viking defenses statistically, they're as good as anybody in

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Speaker 3: the league. Right. I don't know what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna sign it or not.

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Speaker 3: The idea that I think it's up to him. Well,

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Speaker 3: I think, well, I think it's up to him. But

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Speaker 3: I also think I i I because of this lawsuit

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Speaker 3: that he has against the league. The smart money says,

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Speaker 3: you know, what I read locally and nationally is that

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Speaker 3: there might not be a lot of ownership groups or

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Speaker 3: owners that are interested in signing a guy as their

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Speaker 3: head coach, a guy that's suing the league. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if that's true or not. I don't know if that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I suppose it's a factor, but I don't

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Speaker 3: know if that's if that's a deal breaker. Right Whereas like, well,

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Speaker 3: there's no way I'm going to go after Brian Flores

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Speaker 3: because he's suing the league. He was head coach at Miami, Right, Yes,

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Speaker 3: then there's the idea he might go somewhere else as

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Speaker 3: a defensive coordinator if he wanted to write, coaches don't

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00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: come under a salary cap though, right, you can pay

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Speaker 3: whatever you want. So if if.

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Speaker 1: He's going elsewhere as just a decordinator, then there is

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Speaker 1: some division between him and him and koc or him

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Speaker 1: and the other coaches, right, Like why would he do that?

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Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, because he's got a nice situation here. There's

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Speaker 3: there's no doubt here.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna try to become a head coach.

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Speaker 1: If he isn't, then he's just trying to use as

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Speaker 1: much leverage he can to get as much money here

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Speaker 1: as Again, but it wouldn't make a lot of sense

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Speaker 1: to go elsewhere. And like I said, unless I said,

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Speaker 1: he just has division with other coaches that he can't

655
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Speaker 1: get past.

656
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: Right here is a Texas says can Burrow stay on

657
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: the field for an entire season? That's another question.

658
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: That is a problem he missed.

659
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Speaker 1: I'd still take the risk because if he's playing, he's

660
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: a top five quarterback in the league. Yeah, those guys

661
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: aren't easy to find. Even though it hasn't worked out

662
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. It's actually like the years he's healthy, you

663
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: have a chance to win it. All the years he's

664
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Speaker 1: not healthy, you're gonna have a top five in the

665
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: NFL draft.

666
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Speaker 3: Rugslinging guy here. My hot take is the Viking. If

667
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: the Vikings don't bring in a moor and a shaker

668
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: at the QB position, like a Burrow or a Lamar,

669
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: they'll find themselves in the exact same spot next year.

670
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: Middle of the road, missing the playoffs with the middle

671
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 3: round pick. Yeah, you know, if you don't see some

672
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: fairly drastic improve it. I think the plan all along

673
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: was if those interior pieces on both sides of the

674
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: line played like the Vikings that hoped they would. They

675
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: had a lot of core pieces coming back. They had

676
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: two wide receivers they really trust, They like Hawkinson, a

677
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 3: tight end. We know. Their defense was they weren't able

678
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: to generate a lot of pass rush from their interior line,

679
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: and that's why they went out and got those guys.

680
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: I think they thought they could. They couldn't slowly bring

681
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: McCarthy along that because the defense was they expected it

682
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: to play really well, that they could maybe win some

683
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: low scoring games and McCarthy could learn on the fly.

684
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: He didn't get much of a chance because he missed

685
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: so much of the season this year. He missed what

686
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: is he played like nine or ten games out of

687
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 3: a possible thirty something. I mean, he just hasn't played

688
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: much and so next year, I don't know. I don't

689
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: know how much of a jump he can take from

690
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: the end of this season to game one next season.

691
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 3: I don't know. So the text messager he brings up

692
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: a good point. You know. It's it's it's like if

693
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: if if McCarthy doesn't make a big jump next year,

694
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: they're probably going to be the same kind of a

695
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: team this year they were last this past season.

696
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: But that'll mean if you can't make a jump, then

697
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: you're in full rebuilt from full rebuild mode.

698
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: Correct.

699
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: I got to find that that story I referenced earlier

700
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: because Kurt Warner had some comments about JJ McCarthy very

701
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: little eye opening.

702
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's taken heat from a number of people

703
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: national guys here over the past few weeks. Comment if

704
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 3: you're yelling at the TV all last year, multiple games

705
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: for Donald to throw the ball. There's one play on

706
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: the first drive at the goal line. Why Seattle didn't

707
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: win the whole thing? Won't win the whole thing? Donald

708
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: drops back. There's one receiver going out for a pass.

709
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: The receiver in the flaty stares at him in the

710
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: defender's five yards from him. It's a tuddy and he

711
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: fro saw a ghosts just like the playoff game last year.

712
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: Listening to the announcers reaction on that play. If you

713
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: want to believe that, here's what I guess. This is

714
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: what I can't figure out with people that are so

715
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: down on Donald. I think the real reason is they

716
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: were so bitter about how we played against Detroit last

717
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: year and how bad McCarthy is. We don't want to

718
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: believe that Arnold is a good quarterback. Can't be. I

719
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: don't want him to be, because then that would mean

720
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: we did make a mistake. He won four It's not

721
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: all him. He went fourteen and three two years in

722
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: a row. He played really well against.

723
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: I think there's a section of the fan base that

724
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: wanted to believe it wasn't Donald that was the quarterback whisperer.

725
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, made him what he.

726
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: Was last year. That's exactly what it is.

727
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: Can I read like five paragraphs for you?

728
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: Sure?

729
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: This is from Kevin Sea for ESPN, an entire long

730
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: breakdown on the quarterback situation for the Vikings. The Viking

731
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: side for number thirty in the NFL and completion percentage

732
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: above expected. McCarthy and his receiver share responsibility for those numbers,

733
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Speaker 1: but Kurt Warner said demonstrates his view that McCarthy isn't

734
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Speaker 1: quote a natural thrower. McCarthy's arm strength is NFL caliber,

735
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: Warner said, but his tendency to throw maximum velocity passes

736
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: decreases the time that receivers can adjust to inaccurate throws

737
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: in the air, and Warner said it as a quote

738
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: very hard and very rare thing quote for a player

739
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: to dramatically improve accuracy at the pro level. Buffalo Bill's

740
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: quarterback Josh Allen is the poster boy for doing so,

741
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: Warner acknowledge, but he is the exception of the rule.

742
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Allen completed fifty two point eight percent of his passes

743
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: as a rookie in twenty eighteen, but improved that to

744
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: sixty nine point two percent in his third season after

745
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: polishing his mechanics.

746
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: Warner said, quote, the.

747
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Speaker 1: Beautiful thing about Josh is, yeah, he's got a big arm,

748
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: but he doesn't overthrow it very often. He does a

749
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: great job of taking something off of throwing what I

750
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: call a firm but soft ball, a nice little arc

751
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: on it easy for his guys to adjust to and

752
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: catch the ball. That's another factor when you engage your

753
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: body and now your arm. That shows itself in something

754
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: that JJ struggles with right now. And so I'm not

755
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: a proponent that believes a lot of guys get dramatically

756
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: better with accuracy over time. Because it takes so much

757
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: work and it's understanding those little nuances.

758
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: And again Kurt Warner is not the final word, and

759
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: Josh Allen did do it. But like he says, the

760
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: exception of the rule in Josh Allen, I'm not ready

761
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: to say he's a generational quarterback, but he's Yes, you

762
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: could make that argument that he's that good. If McCarthy

763
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 3: is that guy, that would be wonderful. But this one says,

764
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: don't forget. Donald had twenty turnovers the season, might even

765
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: be the league leader among quarterbacks. That's always been an

766
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: issue with them, and it doesn't look like they ever

767
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: got that fixed. On the broadcast on Saturday. I'm not

768
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: paying his close attention to Sam Donald or the Seattle

769
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: Sea exits that once did. But what they seem to

770
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 3: indicate in the in the telecast, uh Buckan Aikman, I

771
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: think they were they doing the game with having a

772
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: Saturday night game that they did, they seemed to indicate

773
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: that he'd done a much better job of taking care

774
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: of the football and he didn't turn it over against

775
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: San Francisco.

776
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: Now, and that's been an issue from the season.

777
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: Has been an issue. But here's here here Here's here's

778
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: the point I'm trying to make. Not everybody, and I've

779
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: said this before, not everybody can have Pat Mahomes joh

780
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: or Josh Allen. Right, you just can't. So there are

781
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: tiers of quarterbacks you have to have, and you have

782
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: to take the good with the bat. With Donald, I

783
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: guess you got some gunslinger. You're gonna have to face

784
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 3: the facts. He's probably gonna turn over the wall a

785
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: few times. You got to live with it. I mean,

786
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: what else are you gonna do?

787
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: But he can also make plays leader.

788
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: That's it.

789
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Speaker 2: So it's like I would think of you as Yeah,

790
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: clearly the number one season.

791
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 3: Yeah when fourteen and three. So you can say all

792
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: you want that Donald has a lot of flaws in

793
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: any and he does.

794
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Speaker 1: I think he has some flaws. I don't think you

795
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun. Yeah, some flaws. You can

796
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: say he has flaws. Well, there are a lot of quarterbacks.

797
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: Almost every quarterback can leave with the exception of a

798
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: handful of of the top tier guys. They've got flaws.

799
00:40:44,840 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: They just do. So I take it. I don't Arnold

800
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: went oh for Fouri and games that counted for us

801
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: last year. Move on, see that's what they say.

802
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Okay, well they have what were the games accounted for

803
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: us other than Detroit in the playoff game?

804
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 4: One?

805
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: Are the other two?

806
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: I don't know.

807
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: It's soy whin thirteen to zero games it didn't count. Yeah,

808
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Viking pans aren't denying.

809
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: Many of that. I'm getting a lot of that. Agree

810
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: that's say probably should have went another direction. And you know,

811
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, we've said this over

812
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: to McCarthy. Might end up developing, learning a lot during

813
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: the offseason, preseason, get better and training camp and become

814
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: a better quarterback. But again, how long will that take?

815
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: This was a year where the Vikings spun their wheels

816
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: and they actually took it. They took a step back. Yes,

817
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 3: they were fourteen and three last year and in the

818
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: playoffs this year they're nine and eight and they missed

819
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: and it took five meaningless wins to get to nine

820
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: and eight. But if it wasn't for Devin dubern name,

821
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: they were eliminated like a month ago. Let's how pause

822
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: come back talk some more National Football League here on

823
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: the fan.

824
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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm,