1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: To Day Ryan Show on one one point three k DWB. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: So I'm going through the email yesterday and I see 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: this email come in from Sydney, and I was like, girl, 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: we got to get you on the radio and talk 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: to you about this. 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: So, Hi, Sydney, how was your weekend? 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Hey? 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: Hey, not long enough. 9 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Not let you feel that, Okay. 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: So Sydney, I saw your email coming yesterday and you 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: got to tell us what's going on with your sister. 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: So, my sister's getting married in a few weeks and 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: she asked me to do her entire wedding party's hair 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 3: and makeup for the wedding because I'm a cosmetologist. But okay, 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: she didn't say she'd pay me. 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 4: Oh oh, So she's asking you as like a family favor. 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which I mean, okay, but she's marrying into 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: a wealthy family and this wedding is going to be big. 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm spending a lot of money on the wedding. 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: But like, my sister has always been, you know, the cheap. 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: One in the family, and we. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: Grew up middle class. We didn't grow up without money, 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: you know. But like she's the type of person that 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: would order an appetizer at a restaurant and you know 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: kind of expect everyone at the table to split the check. 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. So and she's like, she's seven people in her 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: wedding party, so. 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my gosh. 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's kind of a lot of hair and makeup 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: to do. And I just recently got my license, so 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: I'm pretty new into my career. So and I don't 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: really make a ton of money yet, so I couldn't 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 3: use the money. 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 5: Does she think that like she's doing you a favor 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 5: for you know, like your portfolio or something since you're new. 37 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 6: I don't know. 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. Gosh, I don't want to think of 39 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: her like that, but I mean I wouldn't put it 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: past her. I mean, right, of course, you know, i'd 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: be willing to do her hair and makeup. She's my sister. 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: But like the whole wedding. 43 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: Party, there's a lot. 44 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's seven people. 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 4: That's a lot. 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: And that means that like your entire morning of the 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: wedding is like dedicated to like something that's kind of 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: stressful and like takes away obviously it's your sister's wedding, 49 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: but that takes away from you having fun, right, and 50 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: you're just like a little while everyone's getting. 51 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 4: Their stuff and you can you can't, and then they can. 52 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 5: So they're all having their mimosas, watching you know movies 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: and gas wedding and yeah, you're like blow drying and 54 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 5: curling all their hair and doing their make and doing makeup, 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 5: especially like wedding makeup, at least for like a bride. 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 5: It takes a long time to do you know, wedding 57 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 5: ready makeup. And if everybody wants like the same caliber 58 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 5: of makeup and the same caliber of hair, that's going 59 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: to take forever. 60 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, it'll take all day until until the actual 61 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: you know, ceremony. So I wouldn't even get to enjoy 62 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: it with my sister. I'd be work. 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I don't know if it's too late to 64 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 7: back out, but I don't know. 65 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: I would cut. 66 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 7: My aunt is a makeup artist too, and so she 67 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 7: runs into this a lot. When everybody, anybody has a 68 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 7: birthday or a you know, a wedding or something. I 69 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 7: would just be like, I'll do it for you because 70 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 7: you are my sister and the bride, right, But the 71 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 7: rest of you, I'm sorry. 72 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 4: You figure it out, Okay. 73 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: So what is do you have a question for us 74 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: with this, because it sounds like you said yes already, right. 75 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah I did. But I just I'm struggling with whether 76 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: or not I ask her to pay me since it's 77 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: gonna be not just her but her entire wedding party. 78 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean to be fair. Actually, I guess I don't 79 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: know this. I've been in wedding parties, but I've always 80 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: done my own hair for it, so I'm not sure if, 81 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: like if you're a bridesmaid, if you pay to. 82 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: Have your own hair down and know someone oh you 83 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: don't know. 84 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 5: See, I've been in five weddings and I always did 85 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 5: my own hair and makeup. But like if this is 86 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 5: if she's marrying into like a if she's having a 87 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 5: bougie wedding and want someone else to do it all granted, 88 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: But then she could just tell her wedding party like, no, 89 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 5: you're not getting yours done, I'm getting mine done, and 90 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 5: then you. 91 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: Could do it for free for her. 92 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 5: But if you're doing the entire wedding party, that's all 93 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 5: of your That's so much like supplies too, I'm thinking about, 94 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 5: like hairspray, and like makeup in general is expensive, like 95 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 5: foundation and blesh and all of that stuff, and I'm 96 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 5: sure you're putting fake lashes on them too, and then 97 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 5: you're out a lot of material and supplies. So, but 98 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 5: also because it's your sister, it would be such an 99 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 5: awkward be. 100 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: Like, hey, actually, can you pay me for this? Yeah, 101 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: but I don't feel like you should have to. 102 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 7: I understand it is awkward, but you shouldn't have to 103 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 7: feel awkward, right. 104 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: It's kind of I'm frustrated for you that your sister 105 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: put you in that position to begin with. But you 106 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: do have some people texting in right now. This person says, 107 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm a cosmetologist, and after doing it for twelve years, 108 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: you do not do that for free. It doesn't matter 109 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: if you're new or not. You don't do that for free. 110 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: A lots of other people. I'm also a cosmetologist, I 111 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: would say, do your sister's hair and make up for 112 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: free and then just set have a set price that 113 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: you're charging everybody else. Nobody thinks that you should do 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: that for free. That's insane. I do remember so now, honestly, 115 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: this is like triggering a memory for me. So for 116 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: my sister's wedding, my younger sister also went to school 117 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: to do hair. So she did my sister's hair and 118 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: then like I think, I just assumed she was going 119 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: to do mine. 120 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I. 121 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Went in and I was like, Okay, you're gonna do 122 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: my hair whatever, and she was like very stressed out 123 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: already because she do hers too. And so I was 124 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: a jerk in that situation and put that pressure on 125 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: her because I was young and broke, so of course 126 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't paying to have anyone do my hair, whereas 127 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: everyone else went to a salon and just had mimosas 128 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: and someone did their hair for them. And I was like, no, 129 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm not paying to have that done. Like my younger sister, 130 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: I'll do it. And so I was a jerk in 131 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: that situation. So now I'm already seen how this could 132 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: go down, and I do not think that you should 133 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: be setting yourself up for doing seven people's hair and 134 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: makeup and your sisters. 135 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 7: Yeah. 136 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 5: Someone texted and saying, having been someone who works with 137 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 5: weddings for the last eleven years, there is zero way 138 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 5: you'll be able to do seven people's hair and makeup 139 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 5: on your own. The weddings that this person works on 140 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: require two hair and two makeup people each. 141 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 7: Year for one person to do hair and makeup as nuts, 142 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 7: but I think even three people is a lot. 143 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: But we have a professional wedding plan on Oh, professional wedding. 144 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: Hi, Samantha, you work as a wedding planner. What do 145 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: you have to say about the situation that Sydney is 146 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: dealing with? 147 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely agree with the last text message that 148 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 6: came in. Each like, wedding, hair and makeup, Like the 149 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 6: whole thing will take like an hour to an hour 150 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 6: and a half, maybe even two hours per person, depending 151 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 6: on what you want to do. Jes So there's absolutely 152 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 6: no way that you're to be able to do everyone's 153 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 6: And are you in the wedding too? Is she expecting 154 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 6: you to do your own hair and makeup too? 155 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in the wedding. Yeah, yes, the wedding. 156 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely either you know, tell her, Yeah, I've been 157 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 6: thinking about your timeline. I would love to gift you 158 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 6: your hair and makeup for free, but I'm gonna have 159 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 6: to bring in some colleagues and we're gonna have to 160 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 6: pay them to help me do the rest of the 161 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 6: party and maybe do it's like that. 162 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, unless everybody has a ponytail. 163 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: There you go, straighten your hair and you're good. 164 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I have a boy question. 165 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: Thanks, Samantha. 166 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: The boy question, go ahead, Yeah, okay, let me look in. 167 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: I might be gay, but I'm still a boy. 168 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 8: Okay, all right, which is well, yeah, you could be 169 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 8: yes anyway. 170 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: Girls, thanks for clarifying exactly. 171 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 8: No, but in the sense of I'm still a boy 172 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 8: in the sense that yes, I'm gay, but okay, is 173 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 8: there any way that any of this can be done 174 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 8: the night before. 175 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: There's no way, not at all. Like you can't curl 176 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: little stuff before. No, you can't sleep with that makeup 177 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: face on. 178 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 8: No, I'm saying, yeah, like it all has to be 179 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 8: done in the morning. 180 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: Yes, it would have to be done in the morning. 181 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 7: Yes, And depending on what time you might have said 182 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 7: this already, depending on what time the wedding is too, 183 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 7: Like it's just impossible for, like I said, for even 184 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 7: the seven people, let alone for you, Sidney, to have 185 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 7: all that done. 186 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 187 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: I mean there are so many people texting in about 188 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: this just saying that, like, there's just literally no way 189 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: that you'd have enough time to do all of that anyways. 190 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: So I think that that part that Samantha who was 191 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: just on the phone had the best advice, which is 192 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: to say, you can come in with like the stats. Yeah, hey, 193 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, like I know I said yes to this. 194 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it like this is how it's 195 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: going to go down, Like I won't be able to 196 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: do this in the timeframe that we had to get 197 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: ready and then offer to do your sisters and then 198 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: be done with it. 199 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: And she's got to understand. 200 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if she wants her wedding party to look good, 201 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: which by the sounds of her wanting you to do 202 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: all of this, it's like she wants like a certain 203 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: type of look probably for everyone, then I think she'd 204 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: be willing to hear you out on that. 205 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Sydney. You don't like confrontation, do you, Sydney. We 206 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: need you got to just go up to your sister. 207 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: This is how you start your whole career as a cosmetologist. 208 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: And you started by saying no to your sister. And 209 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: then when other people come at you with bad requests 210 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: like this, and you can say no to them too, 211 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: but then you know, give them another. 212 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 5: Option to a lot of people are saying do it 213 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 5: for just to your sister. As a gift for yeah, 214 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 5: and to make everybody else pay. And a lot of 215 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 5: people are texting and saying that they paid for their 216 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 5: own hair and makeup as a bridesmaid. 217 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 218 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: I think that that's why I'm saying. 219 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: When I had my younger sister do it, I think 220 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: it was because, like, I don't want to pay to 221 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: have done at a salon, and all the other bridesmaids 222 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: did so I remember just like having mimosas and like 223 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: chilling watching everyone else get their hair done, and I 224 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: was like, so another one, another one, another one. All right, Well, Sydney, 225 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: I hope we'll you out. You'll have to keep us 226 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: posted on how it goes and what happens with your sister. 227 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: But the consensus is, hands down, you can't do all 228 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: of that, and you gotta tell your sister. 229 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I will, Good. 230 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: Luck, Sydney. 231 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: All right. 232 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: If you ever have something you're dealing with that was 233 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: a little bit like group therapy, which we usually do 234 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: on Tuesdays, But if you ever have an issue that 235 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: you're dealing with, feel free to email us Ryan Show 236 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: at KDWB dot