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Speaker 2: See, I know you did that for me, But I

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Speaker 1: Did I know? I think I did know that, okay, because.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the flannel where's appreciated for me, as

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Speaker 2: which makes me feel like you know you didn't want

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the difference. By the way, I got this

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Speaker 1: from the Ryan Edwards collection. It's a color on you too,

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Speaker 1: very unique. This is not a flannel shirt. It's a

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Speaker 1: flannel jacket. This is a flannel jacket. Look at it. Lined,

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Speaker 1: thing's really warm, right. This is what you would wear

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing is he's not here to tell us.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, next time we see if it's cold,

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Speaker 1: I think Dave would wear this not here. He would

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Speaker 1: He definitely was. I had to give him one of

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what it is. Everybody knows.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to him yesterday when when he was

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Speaker 2: You know, Rick said he's gonna send your lap and

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Speaker 2: Of course, I have a lot of fun with Jake

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Speaker 2: out with Jake on what he saw. Well, he really

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Speaker 2: And I do believe that Sean Is is holding that

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Speaker 2: when it comes to an opponent that you really you

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Speaker 1: At this point, there's a lot of guys that want

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty good about it too, and not even

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: We do this every single week, and we will do

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Dave Tepper.

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Speaker 2: He did give us some audio of the Washington call

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Speaker 1: Oh will we get to hear this now? I want

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Speaker 1: Let's have some phone now. This will be good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Hufanga pass interference that negated the Brandon Jones game

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Speaker 2: And and I'll play I'll play our call too, because

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Speaker 2: I have I have all our call.

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Speaker 1: Okay, a comparison, I would do it in the order

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Speaker 2: In, all right, So here was So here's our I

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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's a four man rush.

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Speaker 4: MARIOO in the pocket, bounces around, bitch, Chase.

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Speaker 5: Hey grab frozen, knocked away, head.

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Speaker 4: Intercepting, penaly fight, throwned, penaly flight throw, Brandon Jones with

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Speaker 1: And what a great call by Dave.

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Speaker 2: Well and you, I mean you two, you're like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't WHU fun knew it too. He pointed at himself.

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Speaker 6: There might be a passive Paul Is attendant for Jeremy McNichols.

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Speaker 1: This may keep the game alive. Affairs, says Brad Weinstein.

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Speaker 2: It was right, big one hundred in the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 1: And so we all know that.

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Speaker 2: But it's fun doing the dueling audio because you have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Tallanoa, as much as we love you and

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Speaker 2: He was amazing the CFLs and yeah he was.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the McLaurin touchdowns really really good. Of course, our

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Speaker 1: They do pressure Mario.

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Speaker 4: A quick thrill probably caught it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know have any idea how that ball was

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Speaker 6: Here we goun of this purse and goal just inside

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Speaker 1: A slap to Terry, I kept.

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Speaker 7: For Washington, the opportunity to tie or come for a

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Speaker 2: We we gotta we gotta have you work that in somehow.

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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of like it was great. Three guarantees

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Speaker 2: There wasn't even a moment, and of course they missed.

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Speaker 2: They aren't going to call it, but Deebo Samuel had

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Speaker 2: game winner, Nick Benito, here was. Here was our call.

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Speaker 4: Two point conversion, Denver with the blitz on the way.

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Speaker 7: Bought the flection by nicko Hendy Broncos.

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Speaker 4: He came untouched off the face side of Marcus Mariota,

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Speaker 4: He went high in the air, deflected the ball, and

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Speaker 2: All right, so that's our cowl, that's our call, and

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Speaker 1: Paul worked at the two two point conversion for the game.

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Speaker 5: Out of the air by Nick Benito and Denver is

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Speaker 1: Two things there. That was the right call by the commanders.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy McNichols was wide open wood. You heard London flesher.

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Speaker 2: somebody does, and Nick Benito is one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, many times last year, many times this year.

437
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Speaker 2: It doesn't surprise me. It doesn't surprise you that it

438
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: was Nick Benito that ultimately made that play, not at all.

439
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Speaker 1: He's a tremendous athlete, just an elite athlete. It's having

440
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: a great year.

441
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Speaker 4: Now.

442
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Speaker 1: I got a question for you, when you're watching the

443
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Speaker 1: game and listening to us, are you in here in

444
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: this studio here, I'm out in the news pit, and

445
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: so is our call SYNCD up with the TV tells

446
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: not see that's behind her ahead. You guys are ahead.

447
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: You guys are so you know what's coming then I know,

448
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 1: which is kind of cool because they you can actually

449
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: watch the play knowing what's coming. You could watch it

450
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: in a different way.

451
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: Exactually, yeah, that's exactly what. So I get an opportunity

452
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: to hear from you guys, and you guys do such

453
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 2: a great job painting the picture of what's happening. But

454
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: then moments later I can glance up at the TV

455
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Speaker 2: and see the whole thing.

456
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Speaker 1: That's cooler.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool. That's interesting. I've been wondering that, so

458
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to play all that for you. I thought

459
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: you get a kick out of hearing both sides of

460
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: the same call, since you were quite literally in the

461
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: booths during the game.

462
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely, London Fletcher Man, that guy's got a lot of personality.

463
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Speaker 1: It's very good. Is this his first year doing this?

464
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's been doing it

465
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: for a while a long time. Yeah. Yeah, he's entertaining,

466
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Speaker 1: no doubt about it.

467
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Speaker 2: All Right, we're off early here on Wednesday five six

468
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Speaker 2: six nine zeros or Kawai commas buryal text line. We'll

469
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: get to some sound for the Broncos. There were some

470
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 2: good news as far as the practice report. We'll explain

471
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: that next. We're gonna have Jake Plumber joining us at

472
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Speaker 2: five o'clock tonight. We'll get into a week thirteen recap

473
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Speaker 2: come up in the four o'clock hour. Got some Sean

474
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: Payton sound. I thought this was a great moment. He

475
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Speaker 2: was He was asked about it being addicting, addicted to winning, right,

476
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Speaker 2: And we've heard him say that before, and so he

477
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Speaker 2: was asked, and I think it was Nick Cosminor asked

478
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Speaker 2: him about being addicted to winning and building a culture

479
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Speaker 2: that's addicted to winning, and how a lot of the

480
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: players are saying that, Hey, you get addicted to this

481
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: feeling of winning and you want to just continue to

482
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Speaker 2: do it, right. I like that he kind of took

483
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Speaker 2: that a step further today in his press conference. A

484
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Speaker 2: very introspective press conference from Sean today.

485
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Speaker 1: Okay, I just think.

486
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Speaker 3: I hate losing more than anything like in the world,

487
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Speaker 3: and so I think fear of failure is a very

488
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Speaker 3: significant motivating factor. I think from a detail standpoint, and

489
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: and you know, there's there's nothing that's too small, that's

490
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Speaker 3: that's not significant, that has to exist outside the lines

491
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: as well. You know, the entryway, the locker room, the

492
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: signage postgame, and everything we do, there's been thought given

493
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Speaker 3: to like all of it, almost maniacal with the details.

494
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Speaker 1: And I just think that I think eventually the feeling

495
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Speaker 1: of the player feeling like they thought of everything.

496
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Speaker 2: I really like that.

497
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Speaker 1: I mean, I like that for a multitude of reasons.

498
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Speaker 2: Although I do think that sometimes we talk about Sean

499
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: and and just the yeah, the maniacal attention to detail

500
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: can be I think you can wear on you. I

501
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: think if it's not the right culture of people to

502
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: accept that, then it probably doesn't work as well. Right,

503
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: you have to have the right kind of people that

504
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: are willing to take that kind of weight of coaching.

505
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: Because and I use this not to really disparage Nathaniel

506
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: Hackett specifically, but it's like the variation of difference of approach,

507
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 2: right with Nathaniel Hackett, who is a much more he's

508
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: a player's coach, but in a much more hands off

509
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: kind of like everybody's gonna do their thing, and then

510
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 2: Sewn's like, no, no, no, I'm gonna coach you hard.

511
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: When the coach everyone hard, special team from coaching you

512
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: hard quarterback, receivers, defensive line. I mean, you see am

513
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: out of practice. He does this with everybody. And again,

514
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: you know, coming down from the perspective of I hate losing.

515
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: We hear that sometimes, but you could really hear it

516
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 2: in his voice, like how much. And he went into

517
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Speaker 2: a little bit later on, I don't want to get

518
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Speaker 2: your response. He went to a little later on how

519
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: that's why he says he's never happy as a coach.

520
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm never happy as a coach because I

521
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: always think there's something I could be doing, or there's

522
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: something I could be learning, and there's something other, some

523
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 2: other detail that I can He's like, sometimes we'll find

524
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: something on Saturday, a play that we're gonna put in,

525
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: and it might be the difference of winning and losing.

526
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: And that's sort of that mentality that kind of keeps

527
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: you going but also keeps you really like on edge.

528
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Speaker 1: He's the most detailed not only coach, but any person

529
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Speaker 1: I've ever been around. I can't imagine he even sleeps

530
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Speaker 1: at night. He's like an evil genius, you know. And

531
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Speaker 1: when you're that much of a detailed person on every

532
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: minute detail, and I mean everything that this team not

533
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: only does on the field, off the field, travel everything,

534
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: and you're also coaching them hard. You need to win,

535
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: that's it. That's what I say. You need to win.

536
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: Those types of coaches, when they don't, all of a

537
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: sudden people start piling on them. But he's been a winner.

538
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: His worst season was a seven win season in his

539
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: entire career, and he wins, and so he's got a

540
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: formula that works and these guys are bought in. He

541
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: is it a little evil genius?

542
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it takes the right guys to accept that

543
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: kind of coaching.

544
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does.

545
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,239
Speaker 2: But like I said, they're winning, yeah, you know, uh,

546
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: and you'll continue to get by.

547
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: In exactly if they weren't, you know, there'd be some

548
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: guys that don't like that kind of coaching. But when

549
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: you're winning, everything's good. And they're winning and nine in

550
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: a row, come from behind in nine straight wins. Well,

551
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: they've trailed in every game, and they've trailed in every game.

552
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: It has just been a ridiculously fun season. And I

553
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: don't want it to end. I want to keep this

554
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: thing going.

555
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: Although you said something are getting off the train, you know,

556
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: at the end of the game, I know you were joking, like,

557
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: because you don't want off the train.

558
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: Oh Sunday, I said, get off the roller coach. Yeah,

559
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: not the train train, No, not the vandwagon, it's the

560
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: roller coaster. Like that night, I felt like I'd spent

561
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: hours on a roller coaster at you know, what's one

562
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: of the I'll say Elitch's yeah, and I just couldn't

563
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: get off of it. And at that point there's some

564
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: point you're like, okay, let me off. All right, it's

565
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: been great, but now I want to off this roller coaster.

566
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: And that's true. Now I'd be okay if the rest

567
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: of the games don't have that roller coaster feel to

568
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: it and they just win football games. And you talked

569
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: about about that when we started the show. You know,

570
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: you you're looking for them this Sunday to go out

571
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: there and just roll up the Raiders. No, not even

572
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: a thought that the Raiders will even be in this

573
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: football game. And that's fun, that's fun to do that.

574
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: But looking back on the season, we're all going to go, man,

575
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: that was one of the most fun football seasons I've

576
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: ever watched. So appreciate it. I mean, you know, I

577
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: got a week to recover from the roller coaster. I'll

578
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: be fine no matter how the game goes. But that

579
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: night I'd had enough. A couple of texts here Ryan

580
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: and Rick. I watched the Sun and Night game.

581
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: One thing that struck me was how Mike Tarico and

582
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: Chris Collsworth kept pronouncing Marcus Mariota's last name most pronounced

583
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: at Mariota, and they kept emphasizing the tea.

584
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to hear any of the

585
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: TV no populater, Yeah, it was. It was a little weird.

586
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: Well there's some confusion how you're supposed to say his name,

587
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: but there he is, but some saying Mariota. Yeah, I've

588
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: heard that. Yeah. The in fact, I think both Dave

589
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: and I on our pronunciation guid it said.

590
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: Mariota, Mariota, Mario Ta. Like they kept very Oh they did.

591
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

592
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: It was.

593
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: It was just weird. Okay, so there was they were

594
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: really emphasizing the tea. Yeah, Mario Ta, Mariota. Oh okay,

595
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: it was weird. I hate the short ten minute overtime.

596
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: When League decided to give both teams possession in overtime,

597
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: did they consider going back to fifteen minutes overtime? That

598
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: ten minutes goes by fast with both teams getting to

599
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: possess the ball. I mean, I do like that we

600
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: have both teams possessing the ball. I think it's add

601
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: another lay of strategy. You see some teams decide as

602
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: Washington did. They won the coin toss, but they decided

603
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: to kick it away to the Broncos, so they had

604
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: a chance to have possess one offense. And actually, in retrospect,

605
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: to me, it makes some sense because if you get

606
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: a quick stop, then basically you just need any points

607
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: at that point to win, right. But meanwhile, the Broncos

608
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: defense have been on the field for like eighteen plays

609
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: right before overtime, So I felt like the advantage would

610
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: be for Washington to keep the ball on offense after

611
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: winning the coin toss and then put the Broncos defense

612
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: right back out there.

613
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were surprised yet that they chose to do that.

614
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: For sure. I'm not sure what the strategy was there,

615
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: but I well, that's.

616
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: The strategy is like, hey, if we can get a

617
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: quick three and out, that defense is tired and then

618
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: we all all we need is a field.

619
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: Goal to win this thing. Yeah, I don't know if

620
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: that was the right play. I didn't feel like it,

621
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: but it didn't work out. So it didn't work out.

622
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: It's easy to Monday morning quarterback. Yeah. I don't know

623
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: about longer over time.

624
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: I mean, again, the league can I use to push

625
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: this idea that you don't want more time if you

626
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: can because of health and safety and so. But you're

627
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: you're thinking, like, okay, what's five more minutes, especially if

628
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: both teams are getting a possession.

629
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: I could see the argument for it. This is way

630
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: better than what they used to do, where one team

631
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: might not even get the ball, the team will go

632
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: down kick a field goal win the game. That was

633
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: never a good way to do it. This is much

634
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: better than that.

635
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: Much better, like I thought. And again, you know, I'm

636
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: growing up in New Mexico. I don't know any better.

637
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: So I always I thought that was their song, and

638
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: then I was like, oh, that is definitely not their song.

639
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: But they did such a good cover of it because

640
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: it sounds just like the Ohio Players version. But yeah,

641
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: for the longest time, I thought that was a red

642
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: hot Chlip Pepper song, and I just believe that.

643
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: Well, here's a little fun fact for you, since you

644
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: you'd never heard the original, which is that right there. Yeah,

645
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: there's a scream in that part of the song. And

646
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: the rumor was back then and this is what they

647
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: put these used to put these rumors out to sell records.

648
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: What that was a girl getting stabbed in the studio?

649
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: What Yes, So next time you listen to that song,

650
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: there's a scream in the background, and the rumor was

651
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: a girl got stabbed when they were recording that in

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Speaker 1: the studio, and everybody was like, whoa, that's dark. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: it was real dark. But it made you want to

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Speaker 1: listen to that song. You made you want to buy

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Speaker 1: the record. And they used to do They used to

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Speaker 1: do that kind of stuff all the time. They put

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Speaker 1: these rumors out.

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Speaker 2: Something in the text line says he's only playing that

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Speaker 2: because it's the Ohio Players.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm mean, yeah, man, Ohio Dateton, Ohio brother, Ohio Players. Great,

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's consistent. It is love for yeah, for

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Speaker 8: the for all things Ohio except.

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Speaker 1: For Cleveland, the Browns. The Browns. Anyways, five six six Nights.

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Speaker 1: There was a ka commas bural text on you said,

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Speaker 1: did a question? Yeah, so that game Sunday night. I

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Speaker 1: thought the Washington Commanders had a really good game plan offensively, especially,

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Speaker 1: and what we noticed, and we talked about it during

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Speaker 1: the game, they hardly ever huddled up the entire time.

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Speaker 1: They rarely huddled up. It's not like they were going

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Speaker 1: up tempo. They just never really huddled. They maybe huddled

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Speaker 1: a handful of times in the game. And when you

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Speaker 1: do that, you keep the defense on their heels because

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Speaker 1: now you can't substitute guys situationally. And so that was

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Speaker 1: one thing that they did. The other was they went

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Speaker 1: to a really quick, short passing game to basically nullify

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Speaker 1: the Broncos pass rush. And so my question for you,

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Speaker 1: and it obviously worked, my question for you is in

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Speaker 1: a copycat league like this, well, were going to start

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Speaker 1: seeing defenses or offenses attack the Broncos in that way.

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Speaker 2: May be a little bit of it, I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a way to counteract it, certainly, but I mean you're

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Speaker 2: thinking about in terms of neutralizing some of the edge rush,

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Speaker 2: which of course the Broncos have elite edge rushers. The

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Speaker 2: one thing that I did take away from that, not

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Speaker 2: only the running a tempo leaving the defense on the field,

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Speaker 2: was was their ability to run straight at the Broncos,

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Speaker 2: and the Broncos did lose some contain at times, so

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Speaker 2: those are things I think they can clean up. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not overly concerned because you still have

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Speaker 2: a very good defensive line. But the thing that that

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Speaker 2: sort of jumped out to me, and I talked with

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Speaker 2: Nick about it yesterday, is they were doing a lot

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Speaker 2: of that out of eleven personnel, so they got three

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Speaker 2: wide on on the field, which means the Broncos are

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Speaker 2: going to be a little bit lighter and there's some

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Speaker 2: opportunity there to run against this this group. So there's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of something to that. Nick said he's

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Speaker 2: not overly concerned about that being a problem going forward,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean it's something like, hey, listen, if

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Speaker 2: you're getting the ball out.

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Speaker 1: Fast, that's going to neutralize a pass rush.

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Speaker 2: And we know that's that's a lot of quarterbacks, you

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Speaker 2: know the Raiders specifically, you know, playing Derek Carr for

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Speaker 2: so many years, you know, when the Broncos had a

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Speaker 2: really great defense, Derek Carr would slice and dice them

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Speaker 2: because he'd get the ball out faster than anybody else

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Speaker 2: in the league at the time, and that's that's how

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Speaker 2: you neutralize it.

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Speaker 1: So there was something to that for sure, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of their throws werenath coverage, and when you do that,

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Speaker 1: the safeties come up, which gives you a chance to

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Speaker 1: hit some throws over the top, which they also you know,

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Speaker 1: they took their chance of doing that, and they did

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Speaker 1: hit a couple. So they did a lot of things right,

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Speaker 1: including running the ball. They run the ball well against

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Speaker 1: this Broncos defense. I'm not concerned, but I am interested

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Speaker 1: to see, not necessarily the Raiders, but the next team

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Speaker 1: that we're going to play, the Packers. The Packers if

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Speaker 1: they try to employ that same strategy,