WEBVTT - SB 79 Explained: Can a Developer Build Next Door? 0:00:00.409 --> 0:00:03.970 It's KFI AM 640 and you're listening to The Conway 0:00:04.030 --> 0:00:10.600 Show On Demand on the iHeartRadio app. It's Timmy time! 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:11.420 Bet your ass! 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.530 Timmy! Timmy! Yes sir! 0:00:14.540 --> 0:00:16.720 He's a little lamb with a lot to learn. He 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.599 knows an S-load that game. He's always having such a 0:00:19.660 --> 0:00:21.320 lot of fun, a lot of fun. 0:00:21.340 --> 0:00:21.680 F off. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:22.020 Timmy! 0:00:22.180 --> 0:00:23.320 F off everybody. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:27.090 He knows a lot. Little lamb with a lot to learn. 0:00:28.900 --> 0:00:31.820 Big smart lamb. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:31.910 Yes! 0:00:31.930 --> 0:00:35.010 Big-ass brand smart lamb is what he is. I've got 0:00:35.030 --> 0:00:37.550 to change the lyrics to that stupid song. All right. 0:00:37.630 --> 0:00:40.070 The guy who is on every Saturday morning, 6 to 0:00:40.070 --> 0:00:44.550 8 a.m., Dean Sharp, and Sunday, 9 a.m. until noon, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.520 is with us to talk about a subject that everybody 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.580 wants to know about, ADUs. Dean Sharp, how are you, bub? 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.140 I'm having a bit of an existential crisis. 0:00:54.180 --> 0:00:54.430 Oh, no. 0:00:55.740 --> 0:00:58.080 You shop at Costco, right? I was there today. 0:00:58.100 --> 0:00:58.180 Okay. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.530 So was I. Which one? The one over in Westlake. Okay. 0:01:02.550 --> 0:01:03.170 It was the Burbank. 0:01:03.250 --> 0:01:03.450 Okay. 0:01:03.810 --> 0:01:06.369 Do you have any problem with Kirkland brand products? 0:01:06.610 --> 0:01:06.870 Never. 0:01:07.350 --> 0:01:07.630 Okay. 0:01:07.790 --> 0:01:08.070 Never? 0:01:08.209 --> 0:01:13.930 How about Kirkland clothing? Not really, but I would like 0:01:13.950 --> 0:01:17.330 to hear more because I'm highly invested in Kirkland clothing. 0:01:17.590 --> 0:01:17.950 Okay. 0:01:18.270 --> 0:01:22.580 I'm not immune to a Kirkland clothing purchase. Okay. Socks, 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:23.880 perhaps a t-shirt. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:24.080 Sure. 0:01:24.100 --> 0:01:25.300 You know, whatever. Right. 0:01:25.610 --> 0:01:28.669 But this afternoon, Tina and I were perusing there, and 0:01:28.709 --> 0:01:33.090 there it was, a Kirkland logo men's fleece pullover. 0:01:33.110 --> 0:01:33.970 No way. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.100 Tina says, oh, hey, nice pullover, very thick, very soft. 0:01:37.459 --> 0:01:39.740 And as she held it up and in really big letters, 0:01:39.940 --> 0:01:42.899 in big letters all the way across the chest, bud, 0:01:43.300 --> 0:01:47.050 there it was, Kirkland. And you know what? You know what? 0:01:47.570 --> 0:01:49.430 I couldn't do it. A very loud voice in my 0:01:49.490 --> 0:01:52.090 head was like, oh, hell no. I'm with you. And 0:01:52.170 --> 0:01:55.300 now I'm concerned I'm far more pretentious than I thought 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.060 I was. No, no, no, no, no. It might as 0:01:57.100 --> 0:02:00.630 well just say, why don't you get a sweatshirt that 0:02:00.670 --> 0:02:01.990 just says I'm broke? 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.140 Yeah all right all right yeah but same feel the 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.100 same way yeah i said the same thing when i 0:02:08.139 --> 0:02:10.820 saw the kirkland clothing i was like nah yeah. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.720 That we're not i don't have a problem if you 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.180 don't see the right you know these are these are 0:02:15.220 --> 0:02:17.880 good socks i can get 24 socks for nine dollars 0:02:17.900 --> 0:02:20.200 this is great but i don't i don't want them 0:02:20.220 --> 0:02:23.169 to say kirkland on them i have i am right 0:02:23.250 --> 0:02:29.119 now wearing my my kirkland underpants And they say Kirkland 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.680 on the inside. Yeah, no one can see it. They 0:02:31.700 --> 0:02:34.809 don't even say Kirkland on the outside so people can 0:02:34.850 --> 0:02:37.450 see it. You know, because let's say you're dating, you know, 0:02:37.470 --> 0:02:40.150 you're young, you're single, you're dating a woman, and you 0:02:40.169 --> 0:02:42.200 come out of the bathroom and you're ready to hit 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.220 the sack. And all of a sudden it says Kirkland 0:02:45.540 --> 0:02:50.100 on your underpants. She's going to split. She's like, this 0:02:50.180 --> 0:02:53.280 guy's broke. Yeah. I feel like I want to go 0:02:53.340 --> 0:02:56.430 back and just wait to see who picks these up. 0:02:56.550 --> 0:02:58.310 And then after they leave the store, I want to 0:02:58.330 --> 0:03:00.500 interview them. I just want to know more about this guy. 0:03:00.620 --> 0:03:00.760 Right. 0:03:00.780 --> 0:03:03.700 We're not there yet. You know, we're Adidas, Nike. I 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:08.030 get that. We're just not at. Kirkland displaying that yet. Yeah, 0:03:08.100 --> 0:03:10.010 I'm sorry. I just had to get that off my chest. 0:03:10.030 --> 0:03:11.889 I'm with you. I'm with you, Bob. Because I'm still 0:03:11.910 --> 0:03:15.130 a little traumatized. 100% with you. Hey, I know we're 0:03:15.150 --> 0:03:18.570 talking about ADUs, but I have a question for you. 0:03:19.370 --> 0:03:22.429 I was just notified a couple weeks ago by a 0:03:22.470 --> 0:03:26.030 guy who's a developer, and he said, are you interested 0:03:26.050 --> 0:03:27.530 in selling your house? He gave me a note. It 0:03:27.570 --> 0:03:30.480 wasn't one of those factory notes. It was handwritten, and 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.280 he has his number and his address. He's a local 0:03:32.300 --> 0:03:34.520 guy who lives in Burbank. And I called him and 0:03:34.540 --> 0:03:35.860 I talked to him and I said, what's going on? 0:03:35.900 --> 0:03:38.640 He says, you have a house. Your house is within 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:42.510 500 feet of a brand new Metro bus stop. And 0:03:42.530 --> 0:03:45.030 he said, you could build a nine story apartment on 0:03:45.110 --> 0:03:48.210 your property. I'm like, tell me more. I know the 0:03:48.270 --> 0:03:52.720 neighbors would love that. But that's all your single story 0:03:52.740 --> 0:03:53.820 neighbors all around you. 0:03:54.550 --> 0:03:54.790 Right. 0:03:56.730 --> 0:04:00.550 But here's the question. Do you go for the home 0:04:00.610 --> 0:04:04.100 run and piss off your neighbors, or do you sell 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.480 it to a family and just keep the neighborhood the 0:04:07.500 --> 0:04:10.160 way it has been for 150 years? Yeah, you don't 0:04:10.210 --> 0:04:12.890 destroy the neighborhood. You just don't. 0:04:13.350 --> 0:04:13.890 You don't. 0:04:13.910 --> 0:04:17.890 Okay, but I will tell you that Burbank is run 0:04:18.029 --> 0:04:19.630 by a lot of liberals and they're good at what 0:04:19.670 --> 0:04:23.840 they do. They're not crazy liberals. And that SB 79, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.300 which allows people to do this in their homes, also 0:04:27.460 --> 0:04:31.660 passed by liberal Democrats. So for people that do do that, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.380 if you're in the neighborhood and you are also a 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.970 liberal Democrat, you can blame your party and yourself because 0:04:38.029 --> 0:04:40.450 those are the people that passed SB 790 or 79. 0:04:40.450 --> 0:04:43.410 All right. What can you do? 0:04:43.750 --> 0:04:44.110 Okay. 0:04:44.350 --> 0:04:45.150 Let's talk about ADUs. 0:04:45.190 --> 0:04:46.110 Yes, sir. 0:04:46.250 --> 0:04:48.229 And what is it for people that don't know what 0:04:48.270 --> 0:04:51.679 ADUs are? ADU, it's a guest house. It's a granny flat. 0:04:51.820 --> 0:04:57.060 It's that detached building, and sometimes it's attached. It stands 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.960 for accessory dwelling unit. It is the official name of 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.450 the guest house or the granny flat or the casita. 0:05:04.470 --> 0:05:06.150 We've called it all sorts of things through the years. 0:05:06.430 --> 0:05:06.630 Right. 0:05:07.029 --> 0:05:09.650 And these all have to be permitted. They all have 0:05:09.690 --> 0:05:12.869 to be permitted. And as of a few years ago, 0:05:13.330 --> 0:05:18.560 the state of California, as a tactic for increasing our 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:24.880 housing volume, decided and legislated, guess what? Every city, every county, 0:05:25.020 --> 0:05:28.240 we don't care what your regulations and rules were, you're 0:05:28.260 --> 0:05:30.360 going to allow these things to happen. It's what we 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:35.290 call a ministerial judgment. And because of that, ADUs are 0:05:35.330 --> 0:05:37.310 the easiest permit to pull. 0:05:37.510 --> 0:05:38.029 Really? 0:05:38.230 --> 0:05:38.630 Yeah. 0:05:38.910 --> 0:05:42.109 Oh, that's great. And you see it in the numbers. 0:05:42.150 --> 0:05:47.770 Back in 2018, ADUs, those kind of structures, about 10% 0:05:47.770 --> 0:05:52.620 of the county's new housing. By 2025, 37% of the 0:05:52.660 --> 0:05:55.099 permits that are getting pulled down to building and safety 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.300 are ADUs. That's huge. That is huge. And what do 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.820 you plan on? What should somebody plan on? I know 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.240 there's different levels of quality that goes into one. But 0:06:04.260 --> 0:06:06.680 what's the high and low end for a, what is it, 0:06:06.670 --> 0:06:10.310 900 square feet? It can be up to that. It 0:06:10.350 --> 0:06:11.990 can be up to 750 square feet. And then you're 0:06:12.010 --> 0:06:14.080 going to have to deal with your city on that 0:06:14.100 --> 0:06:16.960 because they have jurisdiction over that. Okay, so you keep 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.490 it under 750, you're cool. Keep it under a 750 0:06:20.490 --> 0:06:22.650 and basically they have to approve it as long as 0:06:22.670 --> 0:06:24.010 you're going by the state rules. 0:06:24.130 --> 0:06:24.200 Wow. 0:06:24.210 --> 0:06:26.400 As long as you're doing the state mandates. And they 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:30.680 have to approve it quickly. And that's the cool thing. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:06:30.820 --> 0:06:33.430 And like, okay, for instance, I know you're asking about 0:06:33.460 --> 0:06:36.789 the cost per square foot building is the same as 0:06:36.850 --> 0:06:40.909 building anything. Okay. So right now. In SoCal, if you're 0:06:40.930 --> 0:06:42.670 going to do it yourself, you know what I mean? 0:06:42.730 --> 0:06:44.210 If you're going to cut every corner, you're going to 0:06:44.230 --> 0:06:46.510 be in the high 200s all the way up to, 0:06:46.550 --> 0:06:51.270 you know, $ 400 or $ 500 a square foot. That sounds like, whoa, 0:06:51.450 --> 0:06:54.300 what's the deal with these ADUs? You're lining them with gold? 0:06:55.300 --> 0:06:57.900 But here's what it is. What it is is the 0:06:57.940 --> 0:07:01.240 fact that, you know, your house, the most expensive rooms 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.159 of your house are the kitchen and the bathroom, okay? 0:07:03.550 --> 0:07:07.650 That's heavy-duty cost per square foot. But then you get 0:07:07.710 --> 0:07:11.370 all this other space, which costs virtually nothing per square foot, 0:07:11.630 --> 0:07:14.350 and that brings the average down. Well, in an ADU, 0:07:14.610 --> 0:07:16.970 you got a kitchen and you have a bathroom, but 0:07:17.010 --> 0:07:19.930 you don't have a lot of that extra space to 0:07:20.150 --> 0:07:23.610 average it out. So the cost per square foot technically 0:07:23.730 --> 0:07:26.810 is higher, but it's only for 600 square feet. Okay, 0:07:26.850 --> 0:07:31.860 but let's say you put together 600 square feet. and 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.620 then you, I don't know, I guess 200 square foot, 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:41.090 that's $ 120, 000. That has to be at least the minimum, 0:07:41.210 --> 0:07:43.570 if not doubling that when you go to sell your 0:07:43.590 --> 0:07:47.930 home on the property value. Oh, easily, easily. Because that 0:07:47.970 --> 0:07:51.310 permit means that whether it's attached or detached, it gets 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.800 added to the square footage of your home. Oh, and 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:59.430 by the way, in your assessment, because the state mandated 0:07:59.450 --> 0:08:03.510 it this way, you only get assessed new on the ADU. 0:08:03.950 --> 0:08:06.490 The rest of the house stays under Prop 13. Oh, good. 0:08:06.610 --> 0:08:10.130 Stays exactly where it is. So it's not like, oh, okay, 0:08:10.170 --> 0:08:12.770 now you got new construction. We're going to reevaluate the 0:08:12.810 --> 0:08:13.710 entire property. 0:08:13.770 --> 0:08:14.010 Nope. 0:08:14.330 --> 0:08:17.730 Only the new square footage gets assessed that way. And 0:08:17.950 --> 0:08:20.320 what does it have to have? As a matter of fact, 0:08:20.330 --> 0:08:20.940 can you stay with us? 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:21.560 Sure. 0:08:21.660 --> 0:08:21.880 Okay. 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:22.420 All right. 0:08:22.740 --> 0:08:24.600 Dean Sharp is with us. I got a great question 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.930 for him when we come back. And I don't often 0:08:27.010 --> 0:08:29.070 say my questions are great, but this one's going to 0:08:29.090 --> 0:08:30.810 be great. I have a question too. Oh, you do? 0:08:30.830 --> 0:08:31.250 Yeah. 0:08:31.300 --> 0:08:33.960 Is it better than mine? Probably not. Okay. Let me 0:08:33.980 --> 0:08:34.460 give you mine. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:34.860 Oh. 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.420 And I would like to hear yours. My question is, 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.280 what kind of access do you have to have for 0:08:40.300 --> 0:08:42.320 the ADU to rent that out to somebody? 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:42.699 Very nice. 0:08:42.740 --> 0:08:46.840 That's a technical one. Mine's more logistical. It's, can HOAs 0:08:46.900 --> 0:08:47.840 prevent ADUs? 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.429 Oh, that's a better one. That's a good one. I 0:08:51.970 --> 0:08:54.170 bet that's true. I bet they can override it. 0:08:54.250 --> 0:08:55.620 It's an issue that I've been dealing with. 0:08:55.780 --> 0:08:56.059 Okay. 0:08:56.300 --> 0:08:56.700 But you know what? 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:58.860 I don't know. We'll have to wait for Dean Sharp, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.460 because he said that the state overrides local. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:02.860 The city. 0:09:03.140 --> 0:09:03.439 Yes. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.699 So I don't know if the HOAs can play a 0:09:05.740 --> 0:09:06.459 part in that or not. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:10.290 Buddy, if you do that, I'm going to come out 0:09:10.330 --> 0:09:12.589 and help you build it, and we're going to build 0:09:12.730 --> 0:09:16.850 a mini 7-Eleven. Hey! And let the city eat that. 0:09:16.870 --> 0:09:16.950 Okay. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:19.280 That's going to be great. 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:19.620 Yeah. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.780 A new 7-Eleven opening up right next to Crozier's house. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:23.620 Stand-alone bar. 0:09:23.820 --> 0:09:29.650 That's right. Yeah. You dumped that? All right. Topless bar. 0:09:29.730 --> 0:09:30.870 Can you do that? Hey! 0:09:31.210 --> 0:09:31.470 Okay. 0:09:31.490 --> 0:09:32.489 We can't use the other word, huh? 0:09:32.890 --> 0:09:33.270 Okay. 0:09:33.470 --> 0:09:35.410 All right. All right. We're getting a little loose around here. 0:09:35.730 --> 0:09:35.970 Okay. 0:09:36.170 --> 0:09:39.530 Dean Char, come back and we'll talk about ADUs. Everybody's interested. 0:09:39.580 --> 0:09:42.540 If you own a piece of property, you're interested in ADUs. 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:44.300 Accessory Dwelling Units. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:49.160 You're listening to Tim Conway Jr. On Demand from KFI 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.340 AM 640. 0:09:51.340 --> 0:09:53.900 Dean Sharp is with us. He's on every Saturday, 6 0:09:53.900 --> 0:09:57.390 to 8 a.m. And then on Sunday, 9 a.m. until noon. 0:09:57.770 --> 0:10:02.309 And we're talking about ADUs. accessory dwelling units those little 0:10:02.330 --> 0:10:05.170 tiny apartments you can build on your property if you 0:10:05.220 --> 0:10:08.640 have enough room and i guess according to dean no 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.640 reason to doubt him the Permitting process is a breeze. 0:10:12.820 --> 0:10:16.309 They've got to get them done quickly. Dean, welcome back 0:10:16.330 --> 0:10:19.770 to the show. How long is the permitting process compared 0:10:19.870 --> 0:10:23.110 to building a house from scratch? Is it 10% less, 20% less? 0:10:23.190 --> 0:10:26.880 Do they get a week or two? Well, that all 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.040 depends on where you live, but we're talking weeks maximum. 0:10:30.250 --> 0:10:30.690 Wow. 0:10:30.970 --> 0:10:34.050 That's huge. Yeah, it is huge. It is huge. I'll 0:10:34.090 --> 0:10:36.170 give you an example. Let's say you got your garage, right? 0:10:36.610 --> 0:10:39.010 You say, hey, you know what? We never park in 0:10:39.030 --> 0:10:41.209 the garage, so we want to make it into a 0:10:41.350 --> 0:10:44.510 rec room, but we want to do it official with permits. 0:10:44.530 --> 0:10:46.680 We're going to turn our garage into a rec room, 0:10:46.980 --> 0:10:49.400 all right? Well, the city of Burbank is going to 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.920 tell you, well, you're taking away two covered parking spaces. 0:10:51.940 --> 0:10:53.500 You're going to have to give those back to us 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.810 with a carport out in front at least. Plus this, 0:10:56.890 --> 0:11:00.370 plus that, plus you do all of that permitting, and 0:11:00.450 --> 0:11:02.980 they could turn you down and extend it and appeal it, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.540 and it could just be an entire mess. If you 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.280 tell them, I'm going to turn my garage into a J-Dew, 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.340 that's what it is, a junior ADU. That's the name 0:11:12.380 --> 0:11:14.560 for an ADU that's attached to the house, okay? 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:15.000 Okay. 0:11:15.020 --> 0:11:17.530 A J-Dew. I'm going to turn it into a J-Dew. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.590 I'm going to take away two covered parking spaces. Nothing 0:11:20.610 --> 0:11:23.070 they can do about it. They're like, wow, that's nothing 0:11:23.110 --> 0:11:26.090 you do. It just overridden the whole thing. There's no appeal. 0:11:26.590 --> 0:11:30.380 There's as long as you are abiding by the state 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.880 regulations for what it has to be. They have to 0:11:33.980 --> 0:11:38.479 say yes. OK, well, these local municipalities must hate this, 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.620 that the state overrides them on this and also SB 779. 0:11:42.620 --> 0:11:42.880 Oh, yeah. 0:11:43.059 --> 0:11:44.880 It's a big thing. It's a big thing. They're just 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.580 grinding their teeth about it. You know, the city that 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.410 I was like, well, you know what? We don't hand 0:11:50.490 --> 0:11:54.290 out that many, you know, guest house permits because we 0:11:54.309 --> 0:11:56.290 don't want that kind of element in this town. 0:11:56.309 --> 0:11:56.719 Oh, really? 0:11:57.250 --> 0:11:59.520 Oh, gosh. I'd like to... Wrap that guy in a 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:04.459 Kirkland pullover. All right. So here's my question. Then Crozier's 0:12:04.500 --> 0:12:06.979 got even, I think, a better one. What kind of 0:12:07.020 --> 0:12:10.320 access do you have to have for the ADU in 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.560 order to rent it out to somebody? And can you 0:12:12.740 --> 0:12:15.330 always do that? What do you mean access? Like do 0:12:15.350 --> 0:12:18.910 they have to have their own entryway, their own driveway 0:12:19.130 --> 0:12:20.229 to get to the ADU? 0:12:20.590 --> 0:12:21.470 No. No? 0:12:21.929 --> 0:12:27.189 No. You could actually– a J-do could actually share a 0:12:27.230 --> 0:12:31.209 bathroom with the house. Wow. With the main house. I 0:12:31.510 --> 0:12:33.429 mean it's inevitable if you're going to rent it out 0:12:33.550 --> 0:12:35.790 and you want to get top dollar for it that 0:12:35.809 --> 0:12:37.960 you're going to give them a private access. Like think 0:12:37.980 --> 0:12:41.179 about your garage. The access to the garage J-Do could 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.260 be that little side access door from the garage. They 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:44.920 go through the side gate and they go in there. 0:12:45.620 --> 0:12:48.640 But technically, no, it doesn't have to have that outside access. 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.240 One in the back is obviously you're just going to 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.480 walk through the backyard and go in. So you can 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:58.760 build a J-Do or an ADU and the guy– If 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.620 there's no bathroom in there, we'll come into your house 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.160 to take a dump. Yeah, but that's on you, buddy. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.500 You're the one who designed it that way. Okay, all right, 0:13:07.540 --> 0:13:10.520 all right. I got to redesign this one. All right, 0:13:10.620 --> 0:13:12.840 and then Crozier has a great question. 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.500 Yeah, you had talked about how cities have to allow it. 0:13:16.780 --> 0:13:19.490 Do HOAs have any power over an ADU or not? 0:13:20.510 --> 0:13:25.950 Uh, mostly, absolutely not. Okay. Uh, so here's the thing, right? 0:13:26.270 --> 0:13:26.870 Uh, wow. 0:13:27.070 --> 0:13:30.900 An HOA, now I gotta, I gotta nuance this. An HOA, uh, the, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.920 the civil code says specifically that an HOA's rules are 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:40.060 void if they effectively prohibit or unreasonably restrict an ADU 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.330 or a JDU on a single family home lot, because 0:13:43.350 --> 0:13:46.670 that's your lot. It's all you, right? Now what they 0:13:46.710 --> 0:13:51.540 can do is they can impose their normal kind of stuff. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.250 They can tell you what color it should be and 0:13:53.260 --> 0:13:55.470 what the landscaping should look like around it, but they 0:13:55.510 --> 0:14:00.450 cannot say no. Wow. Now, this changes a little bit 0:14:00.790 --> 0:14:05.250 when it comes to townhouses and condos, because there, the 0:14:05.420 --> 0:14:09.720 HOA technically is a co-owner of the exterior walls. 0:14:10.140 --> 0:14:10.520 Okay. 0:14:10.900 --> 0:14:14.010 Okay, and so... It gets a little sticky there as 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.819 far as that, because you have two people with or 0:14:16.860 --> 0:14:20.080 two entities with legal rights to the building that would 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.859 have to agree about that going in. But a regular 0:14:24.060 --> 0:14:29.470 HOA for a single family, you know, neighborhood. No, they 0:14:29.490 --> 0:14:30.090 can't say no. 0:14:30.290 --> 0:14:32.090 I do wonder if that applies to me because my 0:14:32.170 --> 0:14:34.650 back wall in my backyard on the other side of 0:14:34.670 --> 0:14:38.160 the wall are townhomes that are all under the same 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:39.160 HOA as us. 0:14:40.030 --> 0:14:41.750 Oh, really? You're an HOA with them? 0:14:41.950 --> 0:14:42.150 Yes. 0:14:42.170 --> 0:14:45.430 If your J-Dew doesn't touch that, I mean, if it 0:14:45.490 --> 0:14:49.250 isn't encroaching on it or belonging to it, then that's 0:14:49.310 --> 0:14:52.070 not the part that they co-own. Oh, excellent. 0:14:52.190 --> 0:14:52.270 Okay. 0:14:52.710 --> 0:14:52.950 Excellent. 0:14:53.210 --> 0:14:56.460 And what about access? I know when you build in Burbank, 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.560 you have to have five feet for fire access. Is 0:14:59.580 --> 0:15:03.060 that the same thing? Four. Four feet. Four feet. Okay. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:03.680 No, no, no. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.920 You have to have– almost all throughout Southern California, the 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.840 standard side yard setback. You've got to have from your 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:15.320 property line to your building five feet. That's the standard 0:15:15.340 --> 0:15:19.350 throughout Southern California. Okay. But with an ADU, it's four feet. 0:15:19.420 --> 0:15:20.040 Wow. Okay. 0:15:20.070 --> 0:15:24.610 That's interesting. You can even encroach on the standard setback. Okay, 0:15:24.630 --> 0:15:26.770 I got one more question. We're running out of time, 0:15:26.790 --> 0:15:31.430 but I imagine all the great ADU builders are backed 0:15:31.590 --> 0:15:35.610 up for years, and it's probably impossible to find somebody 0:15:35.630 --> 0:15:38.150 to put one up. You know what? Shockingly, they're not. 0:15:38.410 --> 0:15:38.790 Really? 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.960 Specializing in it in the sense, but they don't stick 0:15:46.020 --> 0:15:48.239 build them, meaning that they don't, most of them don't 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:52.250 build them from scratch like you would build a normal house. Prefab? Yeah, 0:15:52.310 --> 0:15:55.130 they're prefab. They've got their units and their models and 0:15:55.150 --> 0:15:57.450 they're like, hey, we'll come and drop this on your property, 0:15:57.530 --> 0:16:00.030 you know, in a certain amount of time. That's kind 0:16:00.070 --> 0:16:03.000 of the majority of the marketplace right now. But of course, 0:16:03.150 --> 0:16:05.200 you know, if you know a general contractor or builder 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.739 that you trust, you can have one just built right 0:16:08.780 --> 0:16:10.900 then and there for you. Buddy, this has been the 0:16:10.940 --> 0:16:16.020 greatest half hour that we've done. Everybody is talking about this. 0:16:16.820 --> 0:16:20.430 Everybody who has a home, especially people who want to 0:16:20.450 --> 0:16:23.729 make a couple of bucks, they are going to build one. Hey, 0:16:23.950 --> 0:16:28.410 I'm happy to. Anytime. And I appreciate your Kirkland encouragement. 0:16:28.850 --> 0:16:29.110 Excellent. 0:16:29.130 --> 0:16:29.330 All right. 0:16:29.350 --> 0:16:29.730 Thanks, man. 0:16:29.750 --> 0:16:30.750 I appreciate it. See you, buddy. 0:16:30.770 --> 0:16:30.990 All right. 0:16:31.010 --> 0:16:34.690 Dean Sharp. Listen to his show every Saturday and Sunday 0:16:35.010 --> 0:16:37.430 with his lovely wife, Tina. They do a great job 0:16:37.690 --> 0:16:40.340 on Saturday, 6 to 8 a.m. And then on Sunday, 0:16:40.340 --> 0:16:44.840 9 a.m. until noon. So, Crozier, yes or no? Are 0:16:44.860 --> 0:16:45.290 you going to do it? 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:46.640 We've been talking about it. 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:47.540 I think you're going. 0:16:48.140 --> 0:16:48.920 It's a good possibility. 0:16:49.100 --> 0:16:50.250 Will they be able to use the pool? 0:16:50.780 --> 0:16:51.160 Oh, yeah. 0:16:52.330 --> 0:16:52.570 Oh, yeah. 0:16:52.610 --> 0:16:53.530 All right, that's a step up. 0:16:53.530 --> 0:16:54.930 For that little extra something something. 0:16:54.950 --> 0:16:57.790 Yes, that's exactly right. Oh, man. People are going to 0:16:57.810 --> 0:16:58.210 make some money. 0:16:59.130 --> 0:17:02.940 You're listening to Tim Conway Jr. On Demand from KFI 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.000 AM 640. 0:17:05.900 --> 0:17:08.350 I have not seen, I took Dean's word for it, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:13.159 the Kirkland sweatshirts and sweaters with Kirkland as the logo 0:17:13.220 --> 0:17:15.439 on the outside where you can read it. I've not 0:17:15.500 --> 0:17:20.710 seen that before, but I can't imagine doing that. I 0:17:20.750 --> 0:17:24.490 don't know where you are in life where you're proudly 0:17:24.650 --> 0:17:30.230 wearing Kirkland and telling everybody. The key is to buy 0:17:30.270 --> 0:17:36.770 Kirkland and don't tell anybody. Just wear your underpants, wear 0:17:36.790 --> 0:17:41.550 your jeans, your shoes. I don't know if they're into shoes, shirts, jackets, 0:17:42.570 --> 0:17:47.369 and keep it to yourself. Maybe your family, but not projected. 0:17:48.170 --> 0:17:50.810 That's not good. That's not where you want. All right, 0:17:50.830 --> 0:17:53.169 let's talk about Walmart. I love Walmart. One of my 0:17:53.210 --> 0:17:55.790 favorite hangs, maybe because I didn't grow up with one. 0:17:57.150 --> 0:17:59.310 There weren't any in the San Fernando Valley when I 0:17:59.330 --> 0:18:02.570 was growing up. And so when I went up to Oregon, 0:18:02.910 --> 0:18:05.230 when I met my then girlfriend, and then wife, and 0:18:05.250 --> 0:18:07.240 they were everywhere. I loved them. I used to pop 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.179 into Walmart all the time. And I get excited when 0:18:10.220 --> 0:18:14.320 I go to Walmart. I know, it's odd, strange, but 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:15.740 I do. When I go to Costco, we went to 0:18:15.780 --> 0:18:17.530