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Speaker 1: It is a woo hoo for Friday. All right? Well

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Speaker 1: asking Joe Strecker questions, not hearing him. I heard him

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Speaker 1: that time. Uh it is Brian Thomas right here. Glad

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Speaker 1: especially on a Friday where I feel a little bit lighter.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, I guess just the reality as

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Speaker 1: we go into a weekend. We've got some great plans

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Speaker 1: all morning. What an amazing show, Joe tracker Man. This

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Speaker 1: is the kind of lineup that just really puts a

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Speaker 1: always have a smile on my face on a Friday morning.

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Speaker 1: Coming up Tech Friday, Love talking to Dave had her

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Speaker 1: Tech Friday to children at risk for identity theft. From

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Speaker 1: here we go. A new word we can learn together today, sharonting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: another topic, another stupid new TikTok trend, which is basically

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Speaker 1: boiled down to creating home invasion photos with artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: in order to scare parents. Into calling nine to one

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Speaker 1: one that that's even a thing if you sit back

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Speaker 1: and make up something extraordinarily stupid whole cloth, go ahead

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Speaker 1: and sit down, come up with something that's dumber than

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Speaker 1: that anyway. Plus the TransUnion data breach, so your big

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Speaker 1: credit Union another data breach. Been through that one before.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear about that from Tech Friday's Dave Hatter, Steve Gooden,

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Speaker 1: Steve good from the law from a porter right return

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Speaker 1: to the fifty five Caresiting morning show to give us

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Speaker 1: a lowdown on his campaign. What's going on with that?

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Speaker 1: Plus apparently getting involved in a social media bickering with

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Speaker 1: My understanding is if you mentioned your name, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: end up in some social media back and forth. That is,

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Speaker 1: if you choose to engage in social media. Steve Gooden,

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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have to engage in social media if

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Speaker 1: minimalist presence out in the world on social media, and

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Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of proud of that. You can find

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Speaker 1: me on Facebook and you'll see me wish you a

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Speaker 1: happy Friday every Friday, as I did this morning. Let

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Speaker 1: you know where a listener lunch is, and maybe post

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from the current Treasurer Robert Sprague, who's running

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Speaker 1: for Secretary of State. Robert Spragg joins the program after

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Speaker 1: Steve Good and Steve at seven oh five. Robert Spragg

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Speaker 1: at seven thirty. We'll get the latest on the campaign.

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Speaker 1: What is the Buckeye Business Loan Program? Plus Ohios to

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Speaker 1: begin accepting cryptocurrency as payment for state services? How's that

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Speaker 1: going to go? That's always like piece of God for me,

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Speaker 1: cryptocurrency anyway, Jack Windsor at eight oh five, editor in

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Speaker 1: chief of the iiO pres Network. Jack returns at eight

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Speaker 1: o five to talk about dwines war on Hemp and

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Speaker 1: Bill Sitz's property tax plan, the board that was created

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Speaker 1: after Governor de Wine vitos some of the tax relief

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Speaker 1: provisions in the budget. He promised big things from this

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Speaker 1: to find out what they came up with. Jack wins

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Speaker 1: is going to explain it to me, because the reporting

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Speaker 1: quite understand what the proposals are. So smarter people to

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Speaker 1: me joined the program like Jack Windsor to get this

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Speaker 1: out and educate all of us on that. Finally, Joe

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Speaker 1: Drecker cracking me up this morning eight thirty. Did you

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Speaker 1: watch the debate last night between Corey Bowman and a

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Speaker 1: Toab Parvall. I'd love to hear from you. If you did,

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Speaker 1: Violent crimes do, however, we do have an uptick and

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Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati. Everybody seems to believe that crime is a

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Speaker 1: serious problem in downtown Cincinnati, notwithstanding what the crime stats suggests.

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Speaker 1: Corey Bauman suggested that these cities response to crime has

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Speaker 1: valid argument on that we have all these beatdowns which

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Speaker 1: result in the city reacting, what do we get in

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Speaker 1: the aftermath of the multiple beatdowns? We had the stabbing

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Speaker 1: Morning Share, receiving an undist without question, an inexcusable, inexplicable

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Speaker 1: the result was a reaction, which is what Corey Bauman

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Speaker 1: if we had a bigger police presence in downtown Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: before that beatown occurred, that might never have happened. That

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Speaker 1: kind of suggestion, which I think makes sense. Proval said

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Speaker 1: That's a good point perception. What people's lived experience is

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people believe the crime

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Speaker 1: concession of Corey Bowen's part that you've been reactive. For

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Speaker 1: he said he works to collaborate with the police. Talking

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Speaker 1: about the recruitment initiatives this council, he said, as opposed

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Speaker 1: and we continue on that path, we will hit the

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Speaker 1: It's a little difficult getting police officers to actually well,

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Speaker 1: We can't get an immediate compliment. That's the problem. What

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Speaker 1: So Bowman was endorsed by the FOP also noted that

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Speaker 1: refused to endorse AFTAB proval. Housing here's an interesting one.

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Speaker 1: Candidate's asked to address the housing development like in Hyde Park, which, really,

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Speaker 1: pointed out by Corey Bowman. That's the reason you're in

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Speaker 1: the office. He criticized the Connected Community plan as well

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Speaker 1: issue is about. It's about city Hall dictating what zoning

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Speaker 1: of the communities. Well, stated good point Corey Bowman. That's

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Speaker 1: exactly why the city capitulated and withdrew its imposition of

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Speaker 1: its plans on Hyde Park. I love Purvol's response, pointing

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Speaker 1: what is affordable housing? Market forces are going to dictate

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Speaker 1: a zoron mom dommy rent control kind of thing. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: going to dictate what the rent can be. Nobody suggested

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Speaker 1: to do Section eight housing that kind of thing, So,

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Speaker 1: he said, the city's previous zoning laws were hindering progress.

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Speaker 1: Talk to Corey Bowman about that the previous zoning laws

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Speaker 1: and all kinds of hurdles were thrown down in front

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Speaker 1: be approved of what won't be approved. Purwell said that

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Speaker 1: they sometimes need to disagree with residents, they being the

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Speaker 1: the entire city, so Hy Park, you must capitulate to

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Speaker 1: the broader needs of the collective city of Cincinnati, even

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Speaker 4: I don't know if if he had that in mind.

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Speaker 4: when you do stuff like that, it lets people know,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I might not want to mess with

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Speaker 4: people know that, because if you don't, all bets are

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Speaker 4: off and it's mass chaos. And that's exactly what the

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, Brian, Yeah, you have a great

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Speaker 1: weekend too. Yeah. Donald Trump did issue a profound threat saying, listen,

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Speaker 1: don't you don't end this war, you don't release the hostages.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a world of wrath of God

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Speaker 1: type fury is going to be needed down upon you. Heye,

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Speaker 1: And maybe they did put the two together. Trump's willing

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Speaker 1: to violate the Constitution in the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: and will he nearly go around bombing boats that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't even know if they're coming to the United States

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Speaker 1: of America anymore? Jesus, this guy's maybe unhinged. Let's perhaps capitulate,

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Speaker 1: just boiling it down from a different point of view.

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Speaker 3: The talk station, can you play John the Fisherman?

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Speaker 1: It is five forty one, it is Friday. The answer

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Speaker 1: to that question is always yes, as long as Joe

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Speaker 1: Striker's exactly show, the fifty five Karsite Morning Show, and

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Speaker 1: always putting a smile on the face of my friend Jeff,

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Speaker 1: who anxiously awaits the moment. But you can hear less

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Speaker 1: hit the base round, Good morning, Jeff. Stack of stupid. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you had to boil it on the stack of

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Speaker 1: stupid two three critical elements, they would include a naked

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Speaker 1: person that's not a Friday anyway. A naked person in

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Speaker 1: Florida in a Walmart. We have a trifecto fund Amen

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Speaker 1: brother nine one one call about a naked guy chasing

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Speaker 1: Walmart employees around a parking lot in North Florida. Man

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Speaker 1: was still naked when police showed up. It was a

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Speaker 1: quarter to three in the morning on a Wednesday, October eighth.

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Speaker 1: Lake City Police Department responded to the responded it happened

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Speaker 1: to Walmart West US Highway ninety, Lake City, Florida. The

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Speaker 1: store was closed at the time. Court of police found arrival.

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Speaker 1: Officers advised that an unknown male completely nude, was chasing

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Speaker 1: employees in the parking lot and had fled toward a

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Speaker 1: wooded area north of the store. Officers canvassy area located

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Speaker 1: to the guy in his hands and knees in a

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Speaker 1: Taken to the hospital of the staff, medically cleared and

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Speaker 1: Joe paranoia entergy equation, and I'm going to flag it

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Speaker 1: as a drug issue. Oh, we got a local one here.

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Speaker 1: It involves public nudity. It does not involve the Walmart,

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Speaker 1: though it involves a TJ Max. Thirty year old man

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Speaker 1: arrested Thursday, September twenty fifth, just reported last week facing

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Speaker 1: multiple charges, including theft and public nudity at the TJ

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Speaker 1: Max on Ohio Pike or just off Ohio Pike. Union

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Speaker 1: Township Police Department. Insert report said Cody Partridge now facing

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Speaker 1: charges of disorderly conduct, resistant arrests, substructing official business, and

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Speaker 1: of course, public indecency. Eleven thirty six am Tuesday, September

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Speaker 1: twenty third, officers called a responder to a disturbance. Employee

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Speaker 1: told police the Partridge inside the store yelling and screaming.

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Speaker 1: Partridge barely removed several backpacks from the shelf, put them

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Speaker 1: inside his own bag, also took down a shelf items

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Speaker 1: ended up on the ground. After that, he then exited

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Speaker 1: the store with the stolen stuff. Returned later. At that point,

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Speaker 1: comple deletely naked and yelled at staff and customers. They

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Speaker 1: say the incident escalated when he picked up a pair

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Speaker 1: of sweatpants, began arguing with a customer before leaving the store,

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Speaker 1: and during the altercation, I love this when my concealed

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Speaker 1: cary friends out there, he threatened the customer with a

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Speaker 1: pair of scissors. The customer, in response, pulled out a firearm.

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Speaker 6: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiot.

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Speaker 1: Told Partridge to drop the scissors, that says the customer

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Speaker 1: then secured his firearm and exited the store to distance

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Speaker 1: himself from Partridge. The appropriate way of handling the situation.

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Speaker 1: Police got there by stead it poured it out Partridge,

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Speaker 1: who was then shirtless and wearing gray pants, continuing to

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Speaker 1: yell profanities. Officers instructed him to stop. He ignored them

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Speaker 1: after warning him he would be taste. He still attempted

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Speaker 1: to walk away from the officers, and they said eventually

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Speaker 1: one of them in fact used the taser, which in

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Speaker 1: opacitated mister Partridge. He continued resisting while on the on

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Speaker 1: the ground. Officers ultimately were able to apprehend him. A

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Speaker 1: quarter of a report. There were no indication that he

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Speaker 1: was under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the

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Speaker 1: time of the incident. Just plain old batcrap insane five

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Speaker 1: aokay with naked guy happened last week. He said he

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Speaker 1: was being bitten by snakes, phrasing Troy Edward Adkins, fifty

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Speaker 1: nine of Let's See Whiteville charged with a misdemeanor indecent

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Speaker 1: exposure and intoxicated and disruptive. Also charged with an unrelated

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Speaker 1: speeding ticket from Chadbourne Police. Bond set at five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: Shaff's report said deputies were called to the Seven Creeks

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Speaker 1: Highway about five am after reports of this naked guy

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Speaker 1: our behaving erratically. They found him in a ditch and,

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Speaker 1: according to the Urest report, exhibiting signs of extreme and

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Speaker 1: time oxication and disorientation and pulling at his genital area phrasing.

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Speaker 1: In a related point, apparently, he told deputies that snakes

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Speaker 1: were biting him phrasing, and asked them to quote cut

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Speaker 1: a hockey player, Joe at getting deliberate penalties to get

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Speaker 1: in the penalty box. Oh, a snapshot. I don't know

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Speaker 1: considering the what he was engaged in by way of

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Speaker 1: He was he referring to phrasing We're left to jar

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Speaker 1: our own conclusions. Taken the Columbus Regional for evaluation, and

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Speaker 1: arrested after release. Oh look, naked guy.

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Speaker 5: Good.

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Speaker 1: We're in New Jersey for this one. We're a vilad

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Speaker 1: man accusa committe multiple lewed acts on Highbee Beach during

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Speaker 1: the month of August, corn to Lower Township Police. In

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Speaker 1: the first incident, a woman told police that she had

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Speaker 1: an interaction with the guy, later identified as forty four

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Speaker 1: year old Leonardo L. Madero. She said it made her uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Madera briefly left the area, reappeared naked and committing a

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Speaker 1: lewd act phrasing. A few days later, two people reported

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Speaker 1: a similar incident with a man committing a lewd act

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Speaker 1: where they were in a highby beach. Description given was

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Speaker 1: similar to the prior act that was I just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: with acts seemingly being committed by the same person. Madero

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Speaker 1: identified as the suspect charged with multiple counts of ludenis

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Speaker 1: currently residing in the Cape May County Correctional Facility. A

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Speaker 1: woman who had worked as a substitute teachers now been

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Speaker 1: are you doing? We have no idea because you're an idiot.

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Speaker 1: Thirty year old Crystal Sims, Cave City, charged with unlawfully

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Speaker 1: using electronic communication to solicit, procure, or promote a child

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Speaker 1: for sexual activity. Arrested October second after an interview with

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Speaker 1: the Baron County Sheriff's deputy. Released from that detention center

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Speaker 1: on a twenty five thousand dollars cash bond. Deputy Adam

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Speaker 1: Bo said he received information that Sims had been communicating

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Speaker 1: with a male juvenile for the purpose of meeting him

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Speaker 1: for sex. Student told the deputy that she he had

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Speaker 1: met Simms when she was the substitute teacher in his class,

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Speaker 1: who's watching your children? Student added, Simms later accept that

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Speaker 1: a friend request he's center on Snapchat. Student told deputies

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Speaker 1: out on August twenty second that he and Sims began

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Speaker 1: talking about meeting in Cave City to have sex and

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Speaker 1: recorded call man of the same day. A female can

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Speaker 1: meet her. This edited the call later transitioned to a

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Speaker 1: while she was in a shower.

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Speaker 6: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.

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Speaker 1: While being recorded, so she had to record herself naked

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Speaker 1: in the shower. Brilliant. She was told deputies October second

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Speaker 1: that while substitute teachers, several boys in the class attempted

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Speaker 1: to add her on social media, but she didn't accept

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Speaker 1: any of those requests. She admitted to being the female

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Speaker 1: her boobs in the call, but said that she had

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Speaker 1: agreed to meet the student so that he could apologize

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Speaker 1: for the way he acted in class. Claims she didn't

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Speaker 1: meet the juils student and nothing physical happened between them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so conceivable, you really, I see? Okay, So you're on

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Speaker 1: the call to arranged for an apology meeting. Why were

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Speaker 1: you in the shower naked recording yourself having that conversation? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thirt I'd love to hear from you. Did you watch

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Speaker 1: the debate between Bowman and purvoal I'm dying to hear

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Speaker 1: from you. If you did, please please call me. I'll

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Speaker 1: be right back. Today's top stories at the top on fire,

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Speaker 1: hour Tech Friday with Dave Hatter Steve Gooden in one

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Speaker 1: hour latest on the campaign and he's apparently going back

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Speaker 1: and forth with Iris Rawley, the defund the police activists

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Speaker 1: currently on the City Cincinnati payroll. Ohio treasure Robert Sprague

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Speaker 1: running for Secretary of State in the current race. We

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Speaker 1: Buckeye business blowing program and Ohio well upting cryptocurrency as

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Speaker 1: who's going to join the program at eight three to

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Speaker 1: talk about the debate last night. Someone who's on the

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Speaker 1: phone right now, former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: mister smith Van himself running for Cincinnati Council. Christopher Smithman.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend. You're always welcome on the morning.

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Speaker 1: Should you get a chance to tune into the debate

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Speaker 1: last night, I.

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Speaker 7: Did Brian and a couple of observations, and I'll have

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Speaker 7: the things, you know the politician and power is hit

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Speaker 7: we spent time acting as if Mayor John Cranley or

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Speaker 7: our city manager Paula Bogg's new thing are responsible for

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Speaker 7: his current and condition. This guy has been the mayor

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Speaker 7: for years, four years. You've got to own it, and

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Speaker 7: so when you I just I'm signaling to the citizens

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Speaker 7: of Cincinnati as they vote today in Norwood, here's a

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Speaker 7: guy that wouldn't own anything. That's observation observation one. Observation

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Speaker 7: two for me was he acted as if he supported

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Speaker 7: the police the entire debate. Look, the Cincinnati Police Department

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Speaker 7: took a no confidence vote in this mayor. I have

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Speaker 7: never seen it before. So you have the police department saying, look,

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Speaker 7: I don't have any confidence in this man's leadership or

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Speaker 7: his administration. But if you heard him talking yesterday, you

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Speaker 7: would think that he was the greatest supporter of the

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Speaker 7: police department, when it is absolutely the opposite. I can't

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Speaker 7: wait to hear at some point from press than in

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Speaker 7: cob because there are two stories here in the story

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Speaker 7: that I believe Brian Thomas is the story coming out

651
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Speaker 7: of the FOP saying we have nine hundred and thirty

652
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Speaker 7: or so officers, two hundred of them are in drop.

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Speaker 7: We've had a administration that has been not supporting us.

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Speaker 7: It's made it more difficult for us to recruit. That

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Speaker 7: this is an administration that absolutely is a defund The

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Speaker 7: police are reimagine the police. They're even hiring a central

657
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Speaker 7: consultant who absolutely doesn't support the police department paying them

658
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Speaker 7: almost six hundred thousand dollars, and he stands before the

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Speaker 7: City of Cincinnati when crime is out of control, saying

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Speaker 7: that is John Cranley's fault. The previous administration in some

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Speaker 7: way is responsible for his failures.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I read, and I get you all day.

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Speaker 1: He has been there quite some time, and his his

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Speaker 1: his points on his reaction to the crime. You know,

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Speaker 1: he says, well that the stats are down, but I

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Speaker 1: understand people's perceptions. The crime is bad and we have

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Speaker 1: you know, reacted to that. Well, he only did it

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Speaker 1: after Holly got punched in the face and we had

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Speaker 1: the brutal brawl that was just at the end of

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Speaker 1: July in the fourth year of his term as the

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Speaker 1: mayor of the City of Cincinnati. It was at that

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Speaker 1: point that he decided to sort of rethink the way

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Speaker 1: Patris police patrols are going to be and to start

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Speaker 1: enforcing the curfew, at least in certain neighborhoods in the city.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was in response. That was Corey's point,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it that you're reactive? You should be proactive.

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Speaker 7: Exactly, And also the observation that we just had an

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Speaker 7: active shooting on Fountain Square this week, not two months ago,

679
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Speaker 7: literally this week, and so they presented this question to

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Speaker 7: both candidates that crime was down. This is coming from

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Speaker 7: the moderator. This is coming from the inquirer. Crime is down.

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Speaker 7: It's your perception. He's saying that, and those questions are

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Speaker 7: being asked. Think about this with Ronda Win, whose daughter

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Speaker 7: Cassandra Win was shot in the back in OTR kill

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Speaker 7: this year, just months ago, and with Holly sitting right

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Speaker 7: in front of them, like in.

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Speaker 5: The front row. So you have these two of it.

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Speaker 7: The only person who wasn't there was Sarah Hearing Hearinger,

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Speaker 7: who's who's whose husband Patrick was killed in OTR this

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Speaker 7: year in his own home. I'm saying, you have the inquirer,

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Speaker 7: the moderator, whoever this was, is Xavier even presenting the

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Speaker 7: question that crime is down and it's your perception and

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Speaker 7: my perception not reality, right, and the mayor doubling down

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Speaker 7: on that while these victims are right in front of him.

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Speaker 7: He could have easily said, right then, Holly, I am

696
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Speaker 7: so sorry for what happened to you. Ronda. I am

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Speaker 7: so sorry, Ronda win. What happened to your daughter on

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Speaker 7: my watch? She was shot in her back, thirty shots fired.

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Speaker 7: She was an innocent victim, a mother of five. He

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Speaker 7: has no connection with the reality of what you and

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Speaker 7: I and citizens are experiencing. That's the problem. This guy

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Speaker 7: is disconnected from reality. And so the question with leading.

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Speaker 7: I thought Corey did a good job answering it. But

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Speaker 7: there has to be a tremendous pushback at the ballot

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Speaker 7: box when people are voting, whether you're a Democrat, Independent,

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Speaker 7: or Republican, there has to be an action, Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 7: People can't just sit around and listen to this mayor

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Speaker 7: give them four more years. We're in an election and

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Speaker 7: then go in and cast a vote for here?

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Speaker 1: Would you since you live in the city of Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: and you're always out canvassing and connection with your effort

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Speaker 1: to become since councilman again, you obviously have great connections

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Speaker 1: with a lot of neighbors in the community, and you will.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're just you're informed. Do you get the

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Speaker 1: perception that the residents of the city of Cincinnati are

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Speaker 1: enthused about voting for a FTA pervo means a blue city.

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman's got this massive uphill challenge. He's got to

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Speaker 1: win over the hearts and minds of people who usually

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Speaker 1: don't even vote. And that's the point of my question.

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Speaker 1: People will go out and vote when they're enthused about

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Speaker 1: a candidate, and if we're typically have a ten percent

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent turnout, I mean, that's maybe Corey Bowman's salvation

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Speaker 1: because I know people who know Corey Bowman and want

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Speaker 1: to see a different direction of the city. They seem

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Speaker 1: to be very motivated. The only problem is most of

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Speaker 1: the people that are truly motivated for Corey Bowman don't

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Speaker 1: even live in the city of Cincinnati. So what's your

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Speaker 1: perception of the lay of the landscape among the residents.

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Speaker 7: Well, Democrats in the city that I'm speaking to. We

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Speaker 7: were lid dropping in Mount Adams yesterday and there were

731
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Speaker 7: Democrats that we spoke to who are not supporting him

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Speaker 7: because they're very concerned about crime. So that was the feedback.

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Speaker 7: There were others that were saying, I'm going to hold

734
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Speaker 7: my nose or not show up at all and vote

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Speaker 7: for him because I am concerned about Donald Trump. And

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Speaker 7: we were trying to explain to those citizens that this

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Speaker 7: local election has nothing to do with Donald Trump. But

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Speaker 7: that's why you saw the mayor during the debate start

739
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Speaker 7: talking about Maga. Maga, he Keith, he's Keith. He's worried

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Speaker 7: about the re election. So what he's trying to do

741
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Speaker 7: is deflect and make this election about Donald Trump and

742
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Speaker 7: not about his terrible policies and the direction and his

743
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Speaker 7: inability to keep our fifty two neighborhoods and its residents faith.

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Speaker 7: That is his number one responsibility and he has failed

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Speaker 7: and the members of council has failed to do that.

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Speaker 7: That is why the police department took a no confidence

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Speaker 7: vote in his leadership.

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Speaker 5: But if you heard him, he was.

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Speaker 7: Spending more time talking about Maga and Trump and the

750
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Speaker 7: moderators refeeding him red meat, allowing him to walk down

751
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Speaker 7: that road with Corey Bowman standing next to him. This

752
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Speaker 7: election has nothing to do with that. Politics are local.

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Speaker 7: If you want your popholes fixed, if you want your

754
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Speaker 7: your if you want your snow removed, if you want

755
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Speaker 7: your trash removed, if you want to be safe with

756
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Speaker 7: police in fire, you've got to vote for Corey Bowman.

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Speaker 7: And so the other step that he took was he

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Speaker 7: said anybody and everybody supporting Corey Bowman is a MAGA person, right.

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Speaker 7: This is the MAGA ticket again. This is this cultural

760
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Speaker 7: signaling that he's trying to get his base and he's

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Speaker 7: trying to feed them in this most extreme way. Not

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Speaker 7: talking about the gunshots, the murders. I live in North Avondale.

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Speaker 7: There was a twenty five year old killed right in

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Speaker 7: Evingston in the last two weeks. I was lit dropping

765
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Speaker 7: in rolls line last weekend at twelve thirty in the afternoon,

766
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Speaker 7: there was a young man murdered in an apartment. His

767
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Speaker 7: body was still inside. I want you to hear that,

768
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Speaker 7: Brian Thomas, his body was still inside. As I just

769
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Speaker 7: happened to be lid dropping in Roseline. I'm saying, this

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Speaker 7: is the level of violence that's happening around us, whether

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Speaker 7: it's downtown, whether the woman who put up on a

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Speaker 7: Facebook page in Hyde Park that she's sitting at a

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Speaker 7: light and a group of young men get out of

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Speaker 7: their car broad daylight with guns and try to hijack

775
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Speaker 7: her car, try to take her out of her carjacker.

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Speaker 7: This is the craziness that's going on around us. And

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Speaker 7: the mayor just stood there yesterday saying it's your perception public,

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Speaker 7: it's the previous administration. This is John Cranley, this is

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Speaker 7: the previous city manager. Paula Balg's new things faught. It's

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Speaker 7: not me, and he did own anything. I thought Corey

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Speaker 7: did a good job. I think the mayor was trying

782
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Speaker 7: to be a bully. And the last point I want

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Speaker 7: to make, the outbursts that were happening in the audience

784
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Speaker 7: were an embarrassment.

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Speaker 5: Look, if you're going.

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Speaker 7: To hold a debate and be a moderator and you

787
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Speaker 7: start the debate off and you say I only want

788
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Speaker 7: applause at the beginning and applause at the end, there's

789
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Speaker 7: a point of that because you don't want to lead.

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Speaker 7: Something was happening in that audience yesterday that was absolutely inappropriate,

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Speaker 7: and the moderator didn't shut it down. You're you're clapping

792
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Speaker 7: and yelling and shouting while the city manor, while the

793
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Speaker 7: mayor is talking about the collaborative agreement. I don't know

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Speaker 7: who those people were, but I tell you that was

795
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Speaker 7: a poor showing for the moderator to not shut that down.

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Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman will hear you on Monday at seven twenty.

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Speaker 1: Every Monday here in the fifty five Kresey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: the Smith. Keep up the great work, my friend, and

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Speaker 1: good looking the campaign trail looks like west Side. Jim

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Speaker 1: Cleveland on the line. We'll get those calls immediately. Have

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Speaker 1: talk station six I fifty five Kerr see the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, Bottom the Air of course Tech Friday with

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter always something I look forward to. And David,

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Speaker 1: you two, and it's always good to hear from west Side.

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Speaker 1: Jim next in line on the phones. What's said? Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the program, my friend. Good to hear from you

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 5: Morning.

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Speaker 8: Brian, Yes, I watched every minute of it last night,

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Speaker 8: and first off, I like to comment on Corey. He

811
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Speaker 8: did a great job of sidetracking duck Boy when he

812
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 8: called him mister Bowman, Corey and Corey Bowman. So that's

813
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Speaker 8: the old political strategy of trying to kick off your

814
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Speaker 8: opponent by mentioning their names like that and seeing how

815
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Speaker 8: they would react. And Corey was very professional in each

816
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Speaker 8: one of those circumstances, and he didn't bite on what

817
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Speaker 8: he did. Now, I will give Purvall one credit. He

818
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 8: was well prepared through his bobos on mentioning the things

819
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Speaker 8: that he was trying to convince the public that Corey

820
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Speaker 8: was not qualified, and basically he kind of softballed that

821
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Speaker 8: several times about the fact of, oh, if you want

822
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Speaker 8: to run the city or you want to be mayor,

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Speaker 8: and those kind of, you know, objectives to Corey, and

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Speaker 8: Corey handled it very very well. Now, I don't the

825
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Speaker 8: one softball that was thrown Corey's way, and I hope

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Speaker 8: he brings it up in the next debate is when

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Speaker 8: Holly got decked, and you know, it was mentioned last

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Speaker 8: night and it was kind of dropped pretty quick. I

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Speaker 8: hope he brings it up about the fact that he

830
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Speaker 8: was out of town Purple and didn't respond. And I

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Speaker 8: don't think he's ever did respond to Holly, And I'm

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Speaker 8: not sure.

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Speaker 5: About that, but about the fact that.

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Speaker 8: He didn't call her, didn't participate. I don't think he

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Speaker 8: had any of his city manager or anybody else call

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Speaker 8: her and see what her situation was.

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Speaker 1: Why I asked her that last week of listener lunch

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Speaker 1: and as of last Wednesday, anyone that he had not

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Speaker 1: reached out to her at all.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I don't think he will, No, I really don't.

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Speaker 8: It's Kevin Aldridge, is what Christopher was talking about. That

842
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 8: was the moderator. He's a bleeding liberal, works for the Enquirer.

843
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Speaker 8: If he doesn't work for the Enquirer, he's one of

844
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Speaker 8: their outlying people.

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Speaker 5: But I think it was a good debate.

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Speaker 8: I think the next one will tell more because it's

847
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Speaker 8: going to be on live TV, so people will listen

848
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Speaker 8: and watch. It was very easy to find last night.

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Speaker 8: It took me probably a minute, so I'm hoping a

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Speaker 8: lot of people watched it. As far as the audience

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Speaker 8: speaking out and clapping, I did hear a lot of

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Speaker 8: stuff for for Corey, unless I'm mistaken, when he was

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Speaker 8: bringing up points about the crime and things like that,

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Speaker 8: and granted, Christopher's right.

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Speaker 5: You shouldn't. You shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 8: But I did notice that Corey did get a lot

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Speaker 8: of response on some of his answers, so I'm happy

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Speaker 8: it went that way.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 8: He handled himself very professionally, and the question of he

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Speaker 8: can handle this city part of all walked into the

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Speaker 8: clerk's office. The clerk's office, for god's sakes, that's about

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Speaker 8: as non political as far as a reputation and qualification

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Speaker 8: as you can get.

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Speaker 5: It's a job, and yes.

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Speaker 8: It is a Democrat job right now, and when he

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Speaker 8: walked in it was a Democrat job. But that doesn't

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Speaker 8: qualify him to be mayored. So why not give Corey

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Speaker 8: a chance? I mean, this guy has failed miserably, so

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Speaker 8: there's no reason not to give you know, a city

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Speaker 8: a new chance. And again, I'm not going to keep

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Speaker 8: beating a dead horse. But Corey did a great job

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Speaker 8: on coming back on everything that that Purvoll came outing with.

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Speaker 1: Glad to hear it. Well, appreciate your analysis and look

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Speaker 1: forward to the next debate and we'll see how things

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Speaker 1: go and encourage people to tune in to watch it.

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Speaker 1: West Side, Jim, I hope you have a fantastic weekend,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Appreciate you all lot. I really do. Sorry

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Speaker 1: of time in the segment and Tech Friday with Dave

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Speaker 1: extraordinarily valuable. He's just trying to keep you out of trouble.

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter, Welcome back to the Morning Show. I always

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Speaker 1: love having you on my program.

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Speaker 9: Always my pleasure to be here, Brian.

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Speaker 1: And a new word. This one's new on me. Every

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Speaker 1: time you show up you typically have a new word.

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Speaker 1: I've learned a lot from you over the years. Today,

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Speaker 1: Sharon ting, what the hell was that?

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Speaker 6: Well, the concept is not new, but the word is

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Speaker 6: relatively new. Until I stumbled into this article, I had

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Speaker 6: not heard this term myself. Good And it's the idea

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Speaker 6: of parents sharing things online. For a long time, experts

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Speaker 6: have warned that parents share too much information about their kids,

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Speaker 6: and I think over the years, you and I have

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Speaker 6: talked about the fact that kids are often targeted for

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Speaker 6: identity theft, because if you can steal the identity of

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Speaker 6: a small child, it might be many years, if not

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Speaker 6: maybe a decade or more before they realize that their

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Speaker 6: identity has been stolen, you know, when they go to

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Speaker 6: get a loan, maybe apply for college, sure, go to

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Speaker 6: apply for a job or something like that. So it's

907
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Speaker 6: been well known in the industry that kids are targets

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Speaker 6: of identity theft, and this is on my mind a

909
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Speaker 6: really interesting term that can hopefully put a finer point

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Speaker 6: on this for parents that if you're going online and

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Speaker 6: sharing lots of information about your kids, photos, information about

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Speaker 6: what they do, information about their pets, and so forth,

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Speaker 6: it may eventually come back to bite them. And I

914
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Speaker 6: think it also is trying to drive home the point

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Speaker 6: that people typically don't really understand the idea of privacy

916
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Speaker 6: on the internet. Just because you're on TikTok and you

917
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Speaker 6: set something to private when you post it, does not

918
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Speaker 6: mean that whoever can see it won't take a screenshot

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Speaker 6: of it or something like that and share it with

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Speaker 6: Does it mean that the company that has that data

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Speaker 6: might not sell it or it might get breached. So

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Speaker 6: it's really a warning to parents that the less you

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Speaker 6: share about your kids, the better. And again, the idea

924
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Speaker 6: of this has been out there for a long time,

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Speaker 6: but I think this is sort of a catchy way

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Speaker 6: to hopefully drive this point home from parents and get

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Speaker 6: them to put less information online about their kids.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting because my wife is probably listening right now.

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Speaker 1: She traditionally listens to my program in the morning when

930
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Speaker 1: she's getting ready for work, and she's probably nodding and

931
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Speaker 1: smiling and basically saying, yeah, I told you so. Because

932
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Speaker 1: I rarely over the life of my children, I have

933
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Speaker 1: read really posted a picture of them. It's not because

934
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Speaker 1: I don't love them or I'm not proud of them.

935
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Speaker 1: It's because my wife and I have a rule. We

936
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Speaker 1: don't put pictures of the kids up on social media period.

937
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Speaker 1: End of story. My wife doesn't use even social media.

938
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Speaker 1: But I remember one time I put a picture of

939
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Speaker 1: my I don't know my daughter or son up there,

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Speaker 1: maybe both of them. Man, I got an earful when

941
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Speaker 1: I got home, I mean an earful.

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Speaker 9: So well, that's the right approach.

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Speaker 6: I agree where I understand, and you know, I can't

944
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Speaker 6: say I've never been guilty of this, especially when my

945
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Speaker 6: oldest kids were younger. You know, I think especially when

946
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Speaker 6: social media was new and people didn't really understand these risks.

947
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Speaker 6: And I get as a parent, you know, you're proud

948
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Speaker 6: of your kids. You love your kids, right, you want

949
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Speaker 6: to you want to brag on them because you're proud

950
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Speaker 6: of them and you want to make them feel good

951
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 6: and that sort of thing. But here's what I think

952
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Speaker 6: people often lose sight of, especially now in the age

953
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Speaker 6: of AI, where it's not just the identity theft angle,

954
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Speaker 6: it's bullying, it's things like sex stortation, which we've talked

955
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Speaker 6: about before, and as a reminder, many kids have killed

956
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Speaker 6: themselves because they have been extorted by folks. And while

957
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Speaker 6: you know, some of these kids have made a mistake

958
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Speaker 6: and send a nude photo or something, I know you

959
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Speaker 6: and I've talked about the stories where use an AI

960
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Speaker 6: you can take someone's photo and basically make them appear

961
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Speaker 6: to be nude. You know, if you're a fourteen year

962
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Speaker 6: old kid and suddenly a fake nude picture of you

963
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Speaker 6: is sent to you and someone says, send me money,

964
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Speaker 6: are you going to be able to have the ability

965
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Speaker 6: to say, well, that's just a deep fake and I

966
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Speaker 6: don't care.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 6: So there's a lot of different angles to this, but

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Speaker 6: you know, the identity theft one is where this mostly goes,

970
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Speaker 6: and it's it's the whole idea of you know, if

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Speaker 6: you put a picture of your kid on there with

972
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Speaker 6: their pet Fluffy, or a picture of them at their

973
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Speaker 6: first day at school X think about this. How many

974
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Speaker 6: times have you had to reset a password? And when

975
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Speaker 6: you set up your account, there these security questions. What

976
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Speaker 6: was your first school, what was your first pet, Well,

977
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Speaker 6: the bad guys potentially have access to that information through

978
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Speaker 6: information you're sharing about your kids, so when.

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Speaker 9: They do their in nefarious.

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Speaker 6: And you also have to understand, folks, so many of

981
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Speaker 6: the people who are behind the kind of crimes I'm

982
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Speaker 6: talking about here are essentially professional con artists. They're just

983
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Speaker 6: not out on the street trying to run a scam

984
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Speaker 6: on you like in the movie to Sting. They're now

985
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Speaker 6: using these online tools to collect information, to impersonate you,

986
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Speaker 6: to impersonate someone else, to steal your information. So again,

987
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Speaker 6: you've got the sextortation risk, you've got the bullying risk,

988
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Speaker 6: you've got the identity theft risk. And for all of

989
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Speaker 6: those reasons, as much as you may love your kids

990
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Speaker 6: and you really just want to be out there promoting

991
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Speaker 6: them and you know, proud of them, you really are

992
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Speaker 6: better off if you share as little as possible, or

993
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Speaker 6: frankly nothing online.

994
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Speaker 9: And that's just where we're at.

995
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: That's where we're at. I appreciate my wife give me

996
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: an earful at one time, and I don't think I've

997
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: done it very many times since I saw he ever

998
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Speaker 1: appreciate it, and she is listening. She just texted me

999
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Speaker 1: and said yes, I'm listening. So there you have it,

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Speaker 1: Dave Had. We're going to continue another n talk Station

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Speaker 1: six thirty nine about KRCD talk station and a happy

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Speaker 1: related needs, and Dave will keep you out of trouble,

1006
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Speaker 1: maybe get you out of trouble if you landed in it.

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Speaker 1: Pivoting over. Kids do stupid things. I toarted trying to

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Speaker 1: remember back, Dave, if I was ever stupid enough to

1009
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Speaker 1: do something like this another TikTok trend. Let's have it.

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Speaker 6: Well, Brian, you know, I know you and I have

1011
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 6: said this many times over the years we've been doing

1012
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Speaker 6: this show. Thank God none of this stuff existed when

1013
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 6: we were teenagers. I was a total idiot when I

1014
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Speaker 6: was a teenager, and I cannot tell you how happy

1015
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Speaker 6: I am that none.

1016
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Speaker 9: Of this stuff existed.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 6: Now, I don't know, I don't know that I would

1019
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Speaker 6: have done something like this, because it's actually kind of

1020
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 6: mind numbing to me that someone would even think of

1021
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Speaker 6: this and would them think, Hey, this would be a

1022
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 6: funny prank. But the basic gist is and apparently this

1023
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Speaker 6: has shown up a couple of times and the Brown

1024
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Speaker 6: County Sheriff has learned about this, which is how I

1025
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Speaker 6: first found out about it. In some other reporting that

1026
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Speaker 6: kids are basically using generative AI tools, you know, think chat,

1027
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Speaker 6: GPT or something like that, Sora vo three from Google,

1028
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Speaker 6: that you know, a lot of these things CROC have

1029
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Speaker 6: the capability not only to generate text, but generate audio

1030
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Speaker 6: and or video and photos. And they're going in and

1031
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Speaker 6: they're creating very realistic looking and I'm going to use

1032
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Speaker 6: this term, I just call it an image rather than

1033
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Speaker 6: a photo, because it's not a photo, and it's they're

1034
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Speaker 6: just creating an image that looks like someone breaking into

1035
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Speaker 6: a house. And then they call their parents and send

1036
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Speaker 6: this photo on the phone, right and say someone's breaking in. Well,

1037
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Speaker 6: of course, you know they think this is a funny prank. Now,

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Speaker 6: if you're a parent, what are you going to do

1039
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Speaker 6: when your kids sends you a photo that appears to

1040
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Speaker 6: be someone breaking into your house?

1041
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 9: Right?

1042
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Speaker 6: Of course you're going to panic, you know, are you

1043
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Speaker 6: going to really scrutinize the photo? Go, well, I don't know,

1044
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Speaker 6: maybe that looks like it could have been generated by AI.

1045
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Speaker 6: I mean, first off, what parent would even think of that,

1046
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Speaker 6: because it would not even occur to me that my

1047
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Speaker 6: kid had done something like that. And then secondarily, again

1048
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Speaker 6: you know, while I'm always trying to encourage people, don't

1049
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Speaker 6: trust anything you see at this point, you know, look

1050
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Speaker 6: for any sort of tell that it might be AI.

1051
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Speaker 6: One of the things you'll often see, Brian, when someone

1052
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Speaker 6: generates a video or an image using AI is things

1053
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Speaker 6: will be a little off, especially like if there's a

1054
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Speaker 6: logo on their shirt. If you look at it real carefully,

1055
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Speaker 6: it will often just be some nonsensical mumbo jumbo. Well, again,

1056
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Speaker 6: what parent is going to scrutinize the photo at that

1057
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Speaker 6: level if they think their kid is under assault?

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Speaker 1: I guess so. It might depend upon the age of

1059
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Speaker 1: the kid who sent this. But my immediate reaction, at

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Speaker 1: least when I heard this was someone's actively breaking in

1061
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Speaker 1: the home, You took a picture of them, and you

1062
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: didn't call the police. First I would go home and

1063
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Speaker 1: if this actually happen, then after I dealt with the situation,

1064
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Speaker 1: made sure everybody's okay, metaphorically slap them across the face

1065
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: for being an idiot in contacting me before they got

1066
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Speaker 1: in touch with the authorities.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you would hope that you would have

1068
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Speaker 6: drilled into your kids all along. Yeah, don't forget your address, Johnny.

1069
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Speaker 6: And you know, Susie, if you're home and there's an emergency,

1070
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Speaker 6: don't call me first, dial nine one one. You know,

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Speaker 6: you'd hope those are the kind of conversations you'd be

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Speaker 6: having with their kids, your kids. But again, think of

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Speaker 6: the panic that's going to sweep over you if you

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Speaker 6: get something like that. Plus, how would you know that

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Speaker 6: they didn't call.

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Speaker 9: Nine one one already?

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Speaker 6: Well, of course the parents call nine one one. You know,

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Speaker 6: the police show up, you've wasted their resource. And I

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Speaker 6: would argue this is almost a form of swatting self swatting, Right.

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Speaker 6: Swatting is this idea that someone that doesn't like you,

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Speaker 6: for whatever reason, often for political reasons, calls the police

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Speaker 6: and claims there's a shooting going on at your address,

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Speaker 6: or domestic violence or whatever. You know, the police obviously

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Speaker 6: are obligated to respond to kicking the door. People have

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Speaker 6: been killed in these swanning incidents. You know, this is

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Speaker 6: almost like a form of self swanting. When your mom

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Speaker 6: calls nine to one to one, So it's you know,

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Speaker 6: I think kids don't realize a the risk they're putting

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Speaker 6: themselves in by doing this, be the risk they're putting

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Speaker 6: society in, and the waste of resources, and see the

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Speaker 6: potential long term consequences to their reputation, you know. And

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Speaker 6: I'm not an attorney. It's probably going to depend on

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Speaker 6: the jurisdiction. But this is potentially a crime. So again,

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Speaker 6: it's hard for me to imagine how any kid would

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Speaker 6: think that this would be a funny prank. But apparently

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Speaker 6: some have done this now, and you know, so the

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Speaker 6: warning is going out war your kids that hey, even

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Speaker 6: though you can and to me, Brian, this even goes

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Speaker 6: beyond just this incident. Yes, you can get on these

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Speaker 6: tools now and generate all kinds of things, things that

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Speaker 6: could potentially backfire horrifically on you and cause problems for

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Speaker 6: you well into your future. So I think the broader topic,

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Speaker 6: in my mind is really have a talk with your

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Speaker 6: kids about these tools, how they should and should not

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Speaker 6: use them, and certainly not to use them in any

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Speaker 6: way that would potentially cause law enforcement related and legal

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Speaker 6: consequences for them and your family potentially again many years

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Speaker 6: into the future.

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Speaker 1: Well or emotional harm. You mentioned just photoshopping a naked

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Speaker 1: body onto it one of your classmates heads that could

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Speaker 1: be really really dangerous. I mean, someone could commit suicide

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Speaker 1: as a consequence of an image like that. So you

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Speaker 1: really need to have a heart to heart with them,

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Speaker 1: Maybe get some illustrations like Dave brought up this morning,

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Speaker 1: and walk through how something innocent could turn really really bad. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a very helpful exercise for people to have with

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Speaker 1: their I guess younger people at home, Dave had or

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 9: Run real quick ups to this.

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Speaker 6: Brian is in addition to us talking about it, you know,

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Speaker 6: parents could go out there now and find examples of

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Speaker 6: this stuff in the press and go say, okay, Johnny,

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Speaker 6: here's an example where some kid did this.

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Speaker 9: Here's how it went wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do this exactly. Very very valuable communication, all right,

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Speaker 1: coming up? Oh goodie, TransUnion data breach. We got that

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Speaker 1: to talk about with Dave had of what that might

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Speaker 1: mean for see the talk station six fifty fifty five

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Speaker 1: kre Cede talk dation. It's Friday. We're doing Tech Frida

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Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter Steve Gooden for Cincinnia City Council after

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Speaker 1: the top of the hour News and Robert Sprague, I'll

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Speaker 1: have a treasure running for Secretary of State. He'll be

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Speaker 1: on at seven thirty the mean time. Back to Dave Hatter, Dave,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you the initial question before we dive

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Speaker 1: on into Transunion's breach the credit companies. I have had

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Speaker 1: my credit frozen at least I think now for years

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Speaker 1: and years because of stuff like this, these breaches. So

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Speaker 1: my credit is frozen. Will it stay frozen until I

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Speaker 1: unfreeze it? Or is that something I have to go

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Speaker 1: back and refreeze from time to toime. I just want

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Speaker 1: to get that initial question out of the way.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's the smart play, and that's going to be

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Speaker 6: one of my pieces of advice byan and everyone should

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Speaker 6: go freeze their credit. And then when I put the

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Speaker 6: the show notes out there from today, I'll add a

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Speaker 6: link to how the easy way to do that. And

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Speaker 6: it's not that easy, but as far as I know, Brian,

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Speaker 6: as far as I know, on all three credit bureaus,

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Speaker 6: once you freeze it, it will stay frozen until you

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Speaker 6: go in and unfreeze it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 6: That that's my current understanding. Now keep in mind, you

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Speaker 6: have three different credit bureaus. Each one is a separate business.

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Speaker 6: You know, each one of them could change how this

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Speaker 6: works at any given time. But as far as I

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Speaker 6: know and I have, I have done the same thing

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Speaker 6: as you. I keep my credit locked until such time

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Speaker 6: as I would want to apply for a loan or something,

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Speaker 6: and then go in temporarily unlock it. On most of

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Speaker 6: these things, you can basically say I want to unlock

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Speaker 6: it for three days or something, and it'll go back again.

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Speaker 6: Though you have to figure this out for each one

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Speaker 6: of these things on your own, and it could change

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Speaker 6: at any time. The last time I did it, I

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Speaker 6: was able to do that. But the bottom line is

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Speaker 6: these three companies have an enormous amount of information about

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Speaker 6: you because the nature of what they do right and

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Speaker 6: you know, if you think about it, your credit score,

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Speaker 6: especially if you were someone that isn't independently wealthy and

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Speaker 6: doesn't ever need a loan, is important for you. It's

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Speaker 6: also sometimes used, you know, as an evaluation of whether

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Speaker 6: you're going to be a good employer or whatever. So

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Speaker 6: I would encourage people to go check that occasionally, you know,

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Speaker 6: look at your credit work, get your free credit report

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Speaker 6: once a year, see what's on it, challenge those kind

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Speaker 6: of things. But the real meat of this is really twofold.

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Speaker 6: So Transcenion has reported a breach. Apparently four point four

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Speaker 6: million customers had information stolen. When you hear the term

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Speaker 6: breach in this context, basically your information has been stolen.

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Speaker 6: And I'm going to do a presentation later today I

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Speaker 6: do on cybersecurity. I do a lot of these things,

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Speaker 6: and I always ask in trying to make the point

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Speaker 6: everything is digital, everything is online. Why you should care

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Speaker 6: about this? Who in the crowd has not has not

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Speaker 6: gotten a letter telling them their their information has been breached?

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Speaker 6: And I tell you, Brian, it's been years and it's

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Speaker 6: sometimes hundreds of people where there hasn't been a single

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Speaker 6: hand go up. Everyone has had their data stolen, Everyone's

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Speaker 6: gotten this letter.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 6: So this is an interesting angle though, because again, if

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Speaker 6: you think about the information that could be accessed to

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Speaker 6: a credit bureau, it's practically everything about you. In this

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Speaker 6: particular case, what they're reporting so far is TransUnion itself

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Speaker 6: was not breached. This was an example of what I

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Speaker 6: would what's what's called in the business third party risk.

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Speaker 6: They're using a third party system to store data. In

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Speaker 6: this case, apparently Salesforce dot com. A lot of people

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Speaker 6: use that. It's a well known CRM, and apparently other

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Speaker 6: companies had their data recently stolen through Salesforce as well.

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Speaker 6: Now Salesforce, of course, is saying their platform has not

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Speaker 6: been compromised. This is, you know, probably a bad password,

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Speaker 6: no MFA kind of situation, kind of like the Snowflake

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Speaker 6: reach a few years ago, like where at and T

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Speaker 6: was a company amongst many they had data stolen. But

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Speaker 6: the bottom line here is TransUnion claims that they were

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Speaker 6: not breached. They claim that the very sensitive information wasn't stolen,

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Speaker 6: that they were essentially using this as a customer relationship

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Speaker 6: management tool, so phone numbers, things like that.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 6: Also in the same story, they say several companies have

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Speaker 6: already been caught in a wave of Salesforce linked attacks,

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Speaker 6: including Google, Farmers, Insurance, Alliance Life, Workday, Pandora, Cisco Channel

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Speaker 6: and others, or Chanel and others. Rather, so I'm trying

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Speaker 6: to make two points here. When you use third party platforms,

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Speaker 6: who does it?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 6: Wright More and more companies are using the cloud quote

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Speaker 6: unquote third party platforms rather than having their own servers

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Speaker 6: and their own software installed on these things. You have

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Speaker 6: to make sure you're securing your accounts there so this

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Speaker 6: doesn't happen. But back to the meat of this story.

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Speaker 6: If you get a letter from TransUnion telling you your

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Speaker 6: data has been breached, could become any day now, you

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Speaker 6: should take that seriously. And I also want to point out, Brian,

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Speaker 6: when you see these kind of things, it is super

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Speaker 6: critical for folks go freeze your credit, keep an eye

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Speaker 6: on your accounts, be even more skeptical than usual. But

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Speaker 6: if you get an email or a text or a

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Speaker 6: phone call reporting to be from TransUnion, how would they

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Speaker 6: make a phone call to you the bad guys?

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Speaker 9: Well, now they have all your information.

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Speaker 6: You can get a call and email a text for

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Speaker 6: reporting to be TransUnion claiming to be reaching out to

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Speaker 6: you about this breach.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'd be skeptical about that call because TransUnion

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Speaker 1: has our information for literally hundreds of millions of people,

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Speaker 1: right I mean exactly, They're gonna call you. They picked

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Speaker 1: you out of everyone. Basically, My point is these.

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Speaker 6: Are professional con artists. They have your information. They could

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Speaker 6: reach out to you via email, text, or phone call

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Speaker 6: claiming to be from TransUnion having interesting information that would

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Speaker 6: lead you to believe they are from TransUnion. Scammers will

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01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 6: scam using the breach and telling you because you have

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Speaker 6: been breached, you need to do X, Y or Z.

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Speaker 6: So my bigger piece of advice other than to freeze

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Speaker 6: your credit and be skeptical, is if TransUnion quote unquote

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Speaker 6: reaches out to you in any form other than a

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Speaker 6: written letter, you should be extremely skeptical of that. Don't

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Speaker 6: click the links, don't talk to the person, don't call

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Speaker 6: the phone numbers they supply go to Transunions, Transunion's website,

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Speaker 6: or there's a number here you can check by calling

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Speaker 6: the TransUnion Fraud Victim Assistance Department at eight hundred and six'

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Speaker 6: eight oh seven to eight. Nine my point is assume

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Speaker 6: anything that you get other than a letter in the

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Speaker 6: mail is potentially. Fraudulent you go To TransUnion dot, com

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Speaker 6: you look up a number from their, website you initiate those.

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Speaker 6: Transactions if you have A TransUnion, account because you have

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Speaker 6: locked your credit and frozen your, credit you, know make

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Speaker 6: sure you have multi factor authentication turned, on make sure

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Speaker 6: you have a strong anque password on, that and you,

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Speaker 6: know sadly there's really nothing if you get the letter

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Speaker 6: and they offer the credit.

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Speaker 9: Monitoring turn that.

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Speaker 1: On, Yeah i'm just going to ask. You it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing to have the credit. MONITORING i have, LifeLock

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Speaker 1: i have for, years AND i really don't pay much

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Speaker 1: attention to. It they do alert you if there's something

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Speaker 1: like The TransUnion, breach but fortunately for, me there's been

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Speaker 1: no other.

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Speaker 6: Breaches so, yeah they alert, you and they have attorneys

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Speaker 6: and experts that can help you if you're a dint

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Speaker 6: stolen because a lot of people, say, well what can

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Speaker 6: what can.

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Speaker 9: They do THAT i can't?

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Speaker 6: Do, well they can monitor at, scale which you probably

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Speaker 6: can't even if you're a, discipline and they have experts

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Speaker 6: that will help you unwind this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And afford to pay the legal bills because you do

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Speaker 1: have a fairly sizable legal coverage protection with something like.

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Speaker 1: That Dave, hatter out Of time INTEREST i Dot com

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Speaker 10: You.

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Speaker 1: Then, thanks don't go.

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Speaker 1: Now very Happy friday to, You Brian. Thomas happy to

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Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you on as. Always, hey good, Morning.

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Speaker 5: Brian thank you from.

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Speaker 1: Law firm Reporter. Rides steve always helps us analyze legal

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01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 1: cases that affect local communities even. Nationally it's a brilliant

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01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: insight he always. Provides he's also previously on city. Council

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Speaker 1: we have a record we can attribute To Steve. GOODEN

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01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: i think he did a fantastic job and he was

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01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: there running for council. Again let us start with the

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01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: debate last. NIGHT i understand you at least caught some

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: of the debate Between pervoll And Corey. Bowman what's your

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01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: reaction and what do you?

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01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 10: Think, well it's more of the same stuff from the.

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01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 10: Mayor you, know we you know are you? Know i've

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01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 10: been feeling it. TOO i mean they had a meeting

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01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 10: that about two weeks ago between the mayor and the

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01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 10: other council, candidates which leaked immediately where he told, them,

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01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 10: look you just have to call everyone who is AGAINST

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01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 10: Us republican Or Democrats, maga, maga, maga because apparently they've

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 10: done some polling that showed, one you, know that a

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01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 10: lot of the council candidates at least are in trouble are,

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01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 10: incumbents and number two that his numbers apparently aren't so.

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 10: Great so rather than deal with his, performance he wants

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01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 10: to make everything about national issues and deflect everything to

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01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 10: The trump, administration which is still pretty unpopular within the.

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01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 10: City and you could see that playbook absolutely and pretty

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 10: much everything he. Said rather than acknowledge at all the

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01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 10: fact that we have a massive spiking crime in our populous,

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01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 10: neighborhoods rather than even discuss the fact that we had

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01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 10: a shooting right outside Of Fountain square at five o'clock

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01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 10: on a, weekday the people are getting out of their

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01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 10: getting into their cars to go home from their, offices

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01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 10: where people were just absolutely. Horrified it was right by my,

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01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 10: office by the, way the two idiots getting into an

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01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 10: argument and both pulling guns and shooting each other there

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01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 10: On Vine. Street you, know that's rather than acknowledge any

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01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 10: of those, things all he wanted to do was, say

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01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 10: talk about the evils Of Donald trump and implying that

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01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 10: people are being kidnapped by ice throughout the city and fear.

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01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 10: Mongering so it was really disgusting AND i, think you,

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01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 10: Know bowman hit back against that the best he. Could

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01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 10: but the plan there was to absolutely gaslight the audience

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01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 10: and anyone who's watching this and make them think that

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01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 10: the city's perfectly fine but for the fact that we

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01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 10: have a terrible administration In, washington d. C and that

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 10: he's going to stand up and fired for. You so

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01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 10: it was more of the same garbage that we've been

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01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 10: seeing in the last few, weeks but also a real

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 10: sign that they feel like that their grip on City

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01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 10: hall is.

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01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: Slipping well you see through. IT i, mean the idea

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01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 1: that The trump, administration what they're, doing has an impact

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01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,799
Speaker 1: on the city Of, CINCINNATI i suppose to even suggest

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01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 1: that and make that argument is to believe that your

1349
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: audience is filled with idiots who believe that there is some.

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: Connection that's, insulting but.

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01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 10: Well it's extraordinarily insulting and from the people that we're

1352
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 10: talking to out in the, community it's not. Working it's

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01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 10: not even. Working you, know with the lot of the

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01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 10: really Progressive democrats out in the city that we. ENCOUNTER i, mean,

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01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 10: look the only reason The Lord cincinnati may pass through

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01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 10: from slips is because of the fact that the crime

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 10: here has become so. BAD i, mean that's the. Issue

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 10: i'm not one of these people that thinks The National

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01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 10: guards should be deployed over street. CRIME i think that's

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01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 10: an absolute last, resort you, know and and and that

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01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 10: is you, know there's constitutional issues there as, well saying

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01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 10: that it's from a kind of constitutional conservative. Standpoint but

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01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 10: all that being, SAID i mean the issue is crime.

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01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 10: PERIOD i mean public. Safety that's we need more police.

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01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 10: Officers we're two hundred short of a compliment that was

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01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 10: set all the way back in two thousand and five

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01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 10: when we had a very very different. City we need

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01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 10: to we may need up to four hundred more police

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01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 10: officers if we're going to seriously police a city and

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01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 10: actually have beat, patrols he, said which we know are

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01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 10: the best way to combat. Crime, so, uh it's all

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01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 10: just other incomplete. Nonsense it is a complete, deflection and

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01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 10: it's what they've been doing all. SUMMER i, mean, look

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01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 10: it's it's you, know we had a terrible. Summer the

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01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 10: city is more violent than it has been a long.

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01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 10: Time it's a tougher place to, work and it's more,

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01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 10: divided and it's more divided one hundred percent because of

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01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 10: the mayor and the people he's got working for. HIM i, mean,

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01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 10: look you, KNOW i know we were going to talk

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01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 10: About Irish rollie as, well but he has a police

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01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 10: critic on his. STAFF i mean that works some reports

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01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 10: to the city manager into, him who is openly critical

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01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 10: of the. Police because of her, job she's supposed to

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01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 10: be some sort of a. Consultant BUT i mean this

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01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 10: results in a total demoralization of the police force that's already.

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 10: Understaffed we see the results every. Day this has nothing

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 10: to do With Donald.

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01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: Trump clearly has nothing to do With Donald. Trump and

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 1: he tried to, deflect and we talked about this With

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01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: Christopher smiman earlier this. Morning deflect blame basically On John.

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01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: Cranley he's been mayor for four years, Now when is

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01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: he going to take credit and or take responsibility rather

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01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: for the issues that are plaguing in the city Of.

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01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 1: CINCINNATI i, mean that's kind Of that retreat was REALLY

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: i think childish or shallow and. Hollow he's got a

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01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: lot of time to improve the. SITUATION i, mean how

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: how many lane miles HAS aft had provol improved since

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01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: he's been. Mayor we're behind four hundred million dollars in. Infrastructure,

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01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: OH i, go, well you, KNOW i.

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01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 10: Mean if we would get get into. That but we

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01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 10: now know that they have. Money this came out last

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01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 10: week AND i think The Business courier that they have

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01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 10: almost twenty million dollars that they could have spent on

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01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 10: on pothole repair that they just haven't bothered to get

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01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 10: around to.

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01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 5: SPENDING i, mean it's it's.

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01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 10: Really just incompetence upon incompetence down. There and look at.

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01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,839
Speaker 10: Me you, KNOW i was at a debate On monday

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01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 10: night and out lookout what the council, group and of

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01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 10: course that that's you, know what they've been instructed to

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01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 10: say about. Us they, said we're cleaning up the mess

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01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 10: of the prior council Of John, cranley the prior. Council

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 10: but it's been you, know it's been four years and

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01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 10: actually the roads were getting paved four. YEARS i, mean you,

1415
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 10: know we did say what you want About John. Cranley

1416
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 10: but the, police the police department was better. Staffed it

1417
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 10: wasn't fully, staffed but it was better. Staffed they got,

1418
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 10: raises morale was. Good THE fop engaged with and ultimately

1419
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 10: endorsed the. Mayor right, now they gave it no confidence

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 10: vote TO aft. Have, yeah but at the, time you,

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01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 10: Know cradley worked with them very, well and we had

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01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 10: a working majority on council that involved me And Christopher

1423
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 10: smitherman And Liz keating and we all listened to the

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01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 10: police officers needs and tried to tried to take care

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01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 10: of what the neighborhood, wanted what they, want what the officers.

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01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 10: Need so we did exactly what we were supposed to

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01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 10: do at the best we could within the budget. Constraints,

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01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 10: Anyway so it's a totally different scene, here and it

1429
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 10: is a absolutely, intentional uh and really disgusting and divisive.

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01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 10: Thing this group is, dowing not JUST aft to have

1431
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 10: with the council, candidates to deflect On trump and on

1432
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 10: now on to prior council members and. Mayors they've had

1433
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 10: four years and they have absolutely wrecked the.

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01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: City, well a QUESTION i Asked christopher earlier in the,

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01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: PROGRAM i want to gauge your. Reaction you, know he's

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01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: out and about you're going out and about you're doing town,

1437
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: halls your door. KNOCKING i, mean you're familiar with what's going.

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01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: On what is the enthusiasm level right? Now considering the

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01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 1: city Of cincinnati is really low on turnout with, voters

1440
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: what was, it ten? Percent fifteen percent of the folks showed,

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01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: up and those are usually going to, be from my,

1442
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: perception filled with a lot of THOSE ngo, folks those

1443
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: community activists that are getting cash contributions from from The

1444
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: city Of. Cincinnati they're really good about going out and

1445
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: helping those elected officials that help. Them in other, words you,

1446
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 1: know one hand washes the. Other we know how politics.

1447
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: Works but so is there enthusiasm among the Regular cincinnati

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01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: voters FOR aftab provoll or do you suspect that we're

1449
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: going to have another low voter turnout considering the city

1450
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 1: is pretty much one hundred percent. BLUE i know it's

1451
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: not but Overwhelmingly.

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01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 10: Democrat, well you, know we're almost a week into early,

1453
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 10: voting AND i can tell you what the numbers, show

1454
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 10: and they actually show both not just an lack of

1455
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 10: enthusiasm FOR, aftab but timpathy FOR i HAVE. Tab but

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01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 10: we also see that it's going to be a pretty

1457
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 10: low turnout election unless things change right. Away and from

1458
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 10: the early vote in person and plus the mail and vote,

1459
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 10: requests it looks like it's down about thirty percent Among,

1460
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 10: democrats it's down a little less among non affiliated And.

1461
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 10: Republicans it's only down about two percent Among. Republicans so

1462
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 10: what it tells me is there's a lot of just

1463
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 10: discussed among The democratic base about what's going on. There

1464
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 10: they may not be moving to, bowmen but they're going

1465
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 10: to vote with their feet and stay, home and that

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01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 10: opens up a lot of opportunity for other. Candidates and

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01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 10: it also means that the total number of votes that

1468
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 10: you might need to win if you're someone say like

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01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 10: A charter right or A, republican that vote number is

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01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 10: going to go down because it's the best of nine

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01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 10: and with people staying. Home what we also do know

1472
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 10: is that a lot of independent voters who still make

1473
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 10: up the majority of the, city they tend to Vote,

1474
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 10: democratic like not really truly affiliated with the party or activists.

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01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 10: There those folks have shown the least to drop. Off

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01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 10: so we know that that that big mass of independent,

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01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 10: voters which can be as much as forty percent in

1478
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 10: the city. Election but they're still coming, out AND i

1479
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 10: don't think they're coming out because they're happy WITH. Aftab

1480
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 10: and also to your point about the, ACTIVISTS i think

1481
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 10: that's the really kind of disgusting thing that's happened over

1482
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 10: the last to several decades at City. HALL i, mean

1483
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 10: we you, know famously got rid of patronage when we

1484
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 10: passed our churner in the nineteen. Twenties but now we

1485
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 10: have a new patronage where you, know the mayor and

1486
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 10: the administration and so forth canned out a lot of

1487
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 10: dollars in a lot of bogus contracts to nonprofit agencies

1488
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 10: and agencies that are just created, to you, know really

1489
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 10: to suck up the money that we know are involved

1490
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 10: in election hearing come, elect you, know come every two.

1491
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 10: Years so you, know that's a lot of the game

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01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 10: that The democrats and council have, played which is using

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01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 10: nonprofits who then turn around and help them in the.

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01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 10: Election and it's really disgusting and it's really outside the.

1495
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 10: Charter and really these independent contractors and nonprofits kind of

1496
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 10: fall outside of all the city and state ethics. Laws

1497
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 10: they can do as they. Please and it's an open

1498
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 10: secret here in. Town but this year it doesn't seem

1499
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 10: to be taking because you cannot convince the average. PERSON

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01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 10: i don't care what neighborhood they're, in AND i don't

1501
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 10: care what their race. Is what we're hearing across the

1502
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 10: board is discussed with the situation where public safety discussed

1503
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 10: about the. Crime everyone knows we don't have enough police,

1504
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 10: officers and no matter how much they say that isn't the.

1505
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 10: Case the lived experience of people in the neighborhood belies.

1506
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 10: That AND i just don't think it's working this.

1507
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: Year that sounds like an opportunity for otherwise Like, Republicans,

1508
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: independence maybe some of the Sane democrats maybe change the

1509
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: tide in the city Of. Cincinnati your vote really truly

1510
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: does matter. More With Steve, gooden we're going to find

1511
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: out about This irish. Rolling a little bit of a

1512
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: going on between you, Two. Steve we'll talk about that

1513
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: in just a minute seven to. Seventeen right now fifty

1514
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: Five Kar City Talk. Station something for you to do this.

1515
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: Weekend if you don't even seven twenty one And Fiftybouve

1516
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: Cakar City Talk. Station Steve, gooden you can help him out.

1517
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: Online go To votegoden dot. Com there's a little donate.

1518
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 1: Button i'm. There i'm sure you'd appreciate a campaign, contribution

1519
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: maybe getting the yard. Sign he's running For Cincinnai City

1520
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: council and demonstrably, intelligent good guy with some great ideas

1521
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: for the, city running as a charter, right and that's

1522
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: a okay with, Me steve Good and pivoting over to

1523
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: your latest row With Iris, rowley there was being intentionally.

1524
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 10: On that.

1525
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: One so what is the? City obviously community active, issues

1526
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: part of The Black Lives, matter AND i guess she's

1527
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: a defund police. Type she's been interfering with police officers

1528
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: trying to do their duty and deal with crime and

1529
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: problems in Downtown. Cincinnati so we know about. Her what

1530
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,839
Speaker 1: do you how'd you get in a mix with her? Online,

1531
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: well you, know, yeah.

1532
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 10: It's kind of. Crazy she she And Reverend David lynch

1533
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 10: kind of unleashed their online followers on me this week

1534
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 10: to the point where we where we where we actually

1535
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 10: had to have the police check out some of the

1536
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 10: MESSAGES i was getting from them that were threatening and just.

1537
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 10: Bizarre you, know hundreds of people piling on at her

1538
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 10: urging and what's really wild here is she is a

1539
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 10: long time community, activist was deeply involved in The Collaborative

1540
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 10: agreement back in the early two, thousands and back then

1541
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 10: you actually did some work that that a lot of,

1542
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 10: people including police, officers actually came around to see what was.

1543
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 10: Positive but you, know as they always, say you, know

1544
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 10: in these, stories you, know you start out as a,

1545
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 10: hero but if you stayed in the stage too, long

1546
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 10: you end up as the. Villain and that's kind of

1547
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 10: where we are. Now she is a paid consultant to the,

1548
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 10: administration reporting to the city manager and TO aftab to

1549
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 10: help allegedly help with The Police Collaborative agreement and police community.

1550
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 10: Relations but what's really happened is she has she makes

1551
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 10: hundreds of thousands of dollars that she funnels in part

1552
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 10: to her, son who is her sole employee of her small,

1553
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 10: company and no one really knows exactly what they do all.

1554
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 5: Day there's no.

1555
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 10: Metrics and we do know that she is openly critical

1556
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 10: to police and that there's at least one video that

1557
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 10: an officer has of her interfering with someone trying to

1558
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 10: cite someone for a. Misdemeanor so she's a, big big

1559
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 10: flash point in police community relations both. Ways but her

1560
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 10: real job is to go out there and whip up

1561
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 10: support in the black church community for the. Mayor and

1562
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 10: that's what she's doing. Now if she were an actual city,

1563
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 10: employee she would have civil service rules imposed upon her

1564
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 10: where she couldn't engage in electioneering and. Campaigning but there's

1565
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 10: a loophole here for these paid, consultants so she makes

1566
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 10: more than city, employees actually interferes with police, business and

1567
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 10: then goes out in campaigns and tries to whip not

1568
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 10: just whip up support for the, mayor but attack other.

1569
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 10: Candidates had the temerity to call that out on a

1570
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 10: couple of different radio programs and on A tv interview

1571
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 10: into the improprieties around her, contract and she came at

1572
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 10: me all. Weekend, Uh and you, know some of, it

1573
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 10: some of it was kind of. Funny one guy keeps

1574
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 10: referring to. Me one of her followers keeps referring to

1575
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 10: me as, quote a mediocre, douchebag WHICH i THOUGHT i

1576
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 10: was at least an extraordinary dude, bag and bring. Disappointed

1577
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 10: we call a mediocre. One and most of it's just

1578
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 10: the kind of stuff you shrug. Off but the organized

1579
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 10: nature of. IT a paid city consultant is the part

1580
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 10: of the part that should it should disturb, people, ye

1581
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 10: which is AND i don't think it's very. Effective we're

1582
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 10: not losing any, sleep AND i frankly didn't THINK i

1583
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 10: was getting any votes From irish only, anyway And i'm

1584
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 10: just fine with. That but my, POINT i guess my

1585
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 10: point of view is it's yet one more gigantic ethical

1586
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 10: lapse from this. Administration it's the kind of thing that's

1587
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 10: going on in broad daylight that everyone should just be disgusted.

1588
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,520
Speaker 10: By she is getting the tax dollars for a contract

1589
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 10: to do god knows what during the, day but we

1590
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 10: know and see that the real purpose of it is

1591
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 10: for her to go out there attack the mayor's opponents

1592
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 10: and whip.

1593
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 5: Up, support you, know for his.

1594
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 10: Agenda and they're using tax dollars to do. It and

1595
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 10: that's just.

1596
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: Wrong it is fundamentally. Wrong Steve gooden, again votegodin dot.

1597
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 1: Com wish you all the, Best, steve AND i presume

1598
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: you And i'll be talking before the. Election keep up

1599
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: the great work And i'll look forward to talking with

1600
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: you again real. Soon thanks for your time this, morning, Anytime.

1601
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: Bran thank you all, Right take care, brother have a great.

1602
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: Weekend on top of, That ohio Treasure Robert spragg run

1603
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: For secretary Of. State he is going to be give

1604
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: us the latest on here For secretary Of. State welcome

1605
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: back to the fifty Five Krssey Morning, Show Robert. Sprague

1606
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 1: it's the pleasure to have you on this.

1607
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 11: Morning Thanks, brian and with, you it's.

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01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: Pleasure sprague For, ohio s P R a G U

1609
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: e For, ohio the word for not the number For

1610
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: ohio dot com where you can Find Robert spegg's. Website

1611
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 1: i'm sure you'd appreciate. It cam pagn. Contribution let us

1612
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 1: start off a treasure spread on your campaign For secretary Of.

1613
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: State what's your motivation for running and how's the campaign

1614
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: going so?

1615
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 5: Far?

1616
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 11: WELL i, Think, brian that the cost of our freedom

1617
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 11: is eternal, vigilance and the threats are constantly. Evolving our

1618
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 11: enemies certainly would love to be able to control our,

1619
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 11: elections at the very least be able to influence. Them

1620
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 11: and as your Next secretary Of, state IT i want

1621
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 11: to make sure that our elections are secure AND i

1622
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 11: also want to make sure that they're, fair AND i

1623
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 11: have a plan to make sure that our elections are

1624
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 11: both of those.

1625
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: Well what would you think as it currently, stands what

1626
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: is wrong with the current process in what way will

1627
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: you fix it when you are elected to Be secretary Of.

1628
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 11: State, Well i'll tell you we do a very good

1629
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 11: job with elections in the state Of. Ohio but there

1630
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 11: are a few things THAT i would make sure that

1631
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 11: we are able to evolve and make sure that we

1632
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 11: build upon the successes that we're already having and make

1633
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 11: our election system even. More for one, THING i would

1634
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 11: make sure that we have a front and citizenship check

1635
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 11: to make sure that there are Only americans voting In ohio.

1636
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 11: Elections you, know this idea of citizens being able to

1637
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 11: vote in their, government having a social contract with their

1638
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 11: government is so important to our constitutional. Republic and as

1639
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 11: a matter of, fact our Current secretary Of, State Frank,

1640
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 11: LeRose who's done a very good, job he led the

1641
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 11: effort in twenty twenty two to make sure that Our

1642
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 11: constitution was amended to say that Only american citizens can

1643
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 11: vote In ohio elections in a passed with seventy seven

1644
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 11: percent of the. Vote so that's the first THING i

1645
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 11: would do Is i'd move to a front end citizenship.

1646
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 11: Check and we can do that if we work with

1647
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 11: the federal government and The trump administration make sure that

1648
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 11: we have access to those.

1649
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 5: Databases and that's so.

1650
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: FINE i saw this recent, article AND i don't know

1651
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: If ohio Uses dominion voting. SYSTEMS a lot of red

1652
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: flags way about this big. COMPANY i guess more than

1653
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: twenty states Used. Dominion it just got bought out by

1654
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 1: A missouri tech, entrepreneur Former republican director Of Saint Louis

1655
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: City board Of, elections a guy Named Scott, liendecker and

1656
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 1: he announced this the other. Day as of, Today dominion is.

1657
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: Gone Liberty vote assumes full ownership and operational. Control he's

1658
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: a pro paper ballot kind of. Guy so does that

1659
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: transfer Of dominion ownership mean anything To? Ohio do we Use?

1660
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: Dominion and this suggests made me a movement in the right.

1661
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: DIRECTION a lot of people are still hankering to get

1662
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: their paper ballots back because they have no faith in basically.

1663
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: Electronics AND i understand.

1664
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 11: THAT i do, too AND i think that no matter

1665
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 11: who owns the voting, machines at the end of the,

1666
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 11: day you've got to be careful that they're not. Compromised

1667
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 11: and so that's why the second THING i would do

1668
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 11: as your Next secretary Of, STATUS i would make sure

1669
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 11: that we move to all paper ballots in every county

1670
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 11: in every election that we have in the state Of.

1671
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 11: Ohio AND i used to work At ernst And young

1672
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 11: WHEN i Grant soon WHEN i first graduated from. College

1673
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 11: and what they will tell you is that the paper

1674
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 11: ballot gives you a beautiful audit. Trail you can always

1675
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 11: go back and you can count the. Paper and as

1676
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 11: a matter of, fact that's the requirement of The Ohio,

1677
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 11: constitution is that we vote by, ballot which is a

1678
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 11: secret piece of, paper and being able to check on

1679
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 11: the paper and tabulate the paper gives you a check

1680
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 11: on the. Machines the paper is never. Wrong and SO

1681
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 11: i want to move to all paper ballots in the

1682
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 11: state Of. Ohio sixty percent of the counties are already.

1683
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 11: There that's the way they. Vote you have a separate

1684
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 11: piece of, paper you can see who you voted, for

1685
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 11: and then you submit it in the ballot box and

1686
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 11: then it's. Tabulated it's the best way for us to

1687
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 11: vote in the state Of.

1688
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 1: Ohio scored some points in my listening audience for that, One,

1689
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 1: sir appreciate that got to have a paper trail all,

1690
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 1: right pivoting over in your role as At, treasure what

1691
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: is The Buckeye Loan? PROGRAM i saw this just announce

1692
01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:58,799
Speaker 1: that you just launched.

1693
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 11: This this is a fabulous new. Program we want to

1694
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 11: bring production back to the state Of. Ohio we want

1695
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 11: to bring jobs back to the state Of. Ohio manufacturing

1696
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 11: has always been the backbone of our, state and so

1697
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 11: we're starting there with our brand New Buckeye Business. Advantage

1698
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 11: if you're a listener right now and you happen to

1699
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 11: have a small company under one hundred and fifty, employees

1700
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 11: you will qualify if you want to expand your balance,

1701
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 11: sheet if you can take out with the financial, institution

1702
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 11: your local financial, institution you can take out up to

1703
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 11: a million dollar loan to expand your. Business it could

1704
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 11: be working. Capital this is flexible. Capital it could be

1705
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 11: it could be you expanding your, plant it could be

1706
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 11: putting in that new product. Line and we will reduce

1707
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 11: the interest rate on that million dollar loan by up

1708
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 11: to three percent for up to two years for. You

1709
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 11: and that's the big deal because, look all the federal

1710
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 11: news is about the lowering of interest. Rates, Correct, yeah

1711
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 11: and here we are lowering interest rates with the state

1712
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 11: twenty five billion dollar balance sheet by three hundred basis

1713
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 11: points three, percent front running The. Fed THE fed just

1714
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 11: lowered by zero point two five percent or twenty five basis.

1715
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 11: Points so this is a way that we can put

1716
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 11: our balance sheet to. Work, well the first thing we're

1717
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 11: doing is we're focusing on manufacturing because that's our bread

1718
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 11: and butter as a. State october is manufacturing. Month and

1719
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 11: then we anticipate coming out with some other focuses on small.

1720
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 11: Businesses but this is a great thing to help our

1721
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 11: state bring back, jobs bring back, production bring back and know.

1722
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 11: How AND i think that this is going to be

1723
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 11: a big help to a lot of these small.

1724
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 1: Businesses, well and you're still getting points on the loan.

1725
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: Too it's not like you're giving it away for. Free

1726
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: they have to pay. Back it's just a lesser loan

1727
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: rate THAT i, mean that's a that's a great incentive

1728
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 1: for folks to go out and borrow the money because

1729
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: million dollars borrowed at what current bank, rates that's a

1730
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: sizeable difference over a three point.

1731
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 11: Drop, yeah three point drop was actually real money for

1732
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 11: a lot of these small, businesses and it could be

1733
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,560
Speaker 11: the difference between them being able to expand or not.

1734
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 11: Right AND i love what you, Said, brian because it's

1735
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 11: not as if we're stepping in as the government and

1736
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 11: giving a. Grant it's actually the private market capitalism at.

1737
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 11: Work you've got to get the loan from a private.

1738
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 11: Institution but we'll do our parts in the back office

1739
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 11: plumbing of lowering the interest.

1740
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: RATE i think that's an important. Component that you're still

1741
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: working with a bank who does due diligence and evaluates

1742
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: the nature of your business and your credit. Worthiness so

1743
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 1: the bank is actually doing the laboring or of work

1744
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: for the. State the states is backing it up with

1745
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: its own financial. RESOURCES i think this sounds like an excellent, idea.

1746
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 11: And there's no risk at The treasure's. OFFICE i, mean,

1747
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 11: ultimately the bank or the financial institution has to underwrite THAT,

1748
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 11: novem in other, words back it up with their own,

1749
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 11: money so there's no risk to. Us so this is

1750
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 11: a win win for, everybody and we hope that it'll

1751
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 11: help small businesses expand and help our state grow.

1752
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 1: Economically all, RIGHT i will acknowledge my ignorance on the entire.

1753
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,600
Speaker 1: TOPIC i regularly refer to cryptocurrency as like the peace Of,

1754
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: god it passes all human, understanding while at least, acknowledge

1755
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: it Passes Brian thomas's. Understanding, listen MY mensa membership is

1756
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 1: worthless when it comes to stuff like. This it doesn't mean,

1757
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: anything and it never. Has but what's the story on

1758
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: the state Of ohio accepting crypto in connection with certain. Transactions,

1759
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: well i'll tell you.

1760
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 11: What we decided that The Treasure's, office we could either

1761
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:37,679
Speaker 11: follow everybody, else all these other states that are being

1762
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 11: able to accept cryptocurrency as, payment or we could. Lead

1763
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 11: and there are a few states out there that are

1764
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 11: doing it. Already but we have decided that if we,

1765
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 11: lead we get to determine the, process we get to

1766
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 11: make it, secure and so we've decided that we are

1767
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:57,560
Speaker 11: going to launch a brand new crypto payment. Platform the

1768
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 11: future is this digital. Currency everybody's going to want to

1769
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 11: pay with their phone With, apple pay With, PayPal with stable,

1770
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 11: coin with, bitcoin with, ethereum and pretty, SOON i think

1771
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 11: what you're going to see is it's not just people

1772
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 11: that are going to want to pay with these digital.

1773
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 11: Currencies it is also corporations because it is instantaneous and

1774
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 11: in many ways it's cheaper and it's more. Secure so

1775
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 11: there are some valuable reasons to do. It we're going

1776
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 11: to do it the right. Way we are going to

1777
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 11: develop a cryptocurrency payment platform for the entire. State that,

1778
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 11: way you can pay in cryptocurrency if you, will if

1779
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 11: you want, to and we are immediately it's going to

1780
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 11: happen actually outside The treasure's, office but we are going

1781
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 11: to immediately make sure that it's transferred and transformed INTO us,

1782
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 11: dollars and so we will only HOLD us. Dollars we

1783
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 11: will not be holding, cryptocurrency but it will facilitate the.

1784
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 11: Payment and by the, way the state is not paying

1785
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 11: that user. Fee the user is paying a user fee

1786
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 11: to be able to use that new. Product we think

1787
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 11: that we are going to have the best and the

1788
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 11: safest product in The United states Of. America we just

1789
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,799
Speaker 11: went through THE rfp process and The board Of deposit

1790
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 11: approved it, unanimously and we're looking forward to getting that

1791
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 11: up and.

1792
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: Running and, BRIEFLY i don't want to hold you up

1793
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i know we only have you this one. Segment

1794
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: Sir robert spa treasurer or running for a secretary of,

1795
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 1: state how do, you, again going back to my ignorance

1796
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:31,640
Speaker 1: on the, topic how do you deal with the volatility at.

1797
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: CRYPTO i, mean one day bitcoin's trading for twenty thousand,

1798
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 1: dollars the next thing is trading for thirty thousand, dollars

1799
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: and it's back to. FIFTEEN i Know i'm overstating the

1800
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,719
Speaker 1: volatility of, it and trust, ME i have no faith

1801
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: in the fiat. Currency but The american dollar does not

1802
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 1: struggle with that level of volatility on a day to day.

1803
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: BASIS i guess if i got one hundred dollars bill

1804
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 1: And i'm paying with, crypto crypto is worth x amount

1805
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 1: one day and maybe less than next, tomorrow how does

1806
01:36:55,120 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 1: that translate into something that you can use or real Briefly, roberts.

1807
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 11: That's a great, Question, brian and just real Briefly. Bitcoin

1808
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 11: because there's a limited amount of, it which is what

1809
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 11: makes it, valuable it goes up and, down huge volatility every.

1810
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 11: Day you could pay in, bitcoin and the, transaction obviously,

1811
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 11: digitally is almost, instantaneous and SO i guess that's how

1812
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 11: you deal with the. Volatility but there's also stable, coin

1813
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 11: and stable coin is a digital, coin but it's basically

1814
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 11: a money market. Account it's a share in a money market,

1815
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 11: account and so it's backed up for every stable, coin

1816
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 11: it's backed up by A United states dollar and then

1817
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,919
Speaker 11: that dollar is in the money market. Account it's invested

1818
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 11: In United States treasury short term, treasury so it basically

1819
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 11: operates just like a money market. Account and those stable

1820
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 11: coins are pegged one to one to The United states.

1821
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 11: Dollar so you can see now the difference between the

1822
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 11: bitcoin and the stable, coin and you can see where

1823
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 11: corporations with you, know maybe one of transact more and

1824
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,879
Speaker 11: more transactions in the stable coin type of a digital,

1825
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 11: currency which will be, instantaneous. Safer and the other advantage

1826
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 11: from like the treasure's office standpoint that people don't think.

1827
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 11: About when you write a check to The treasure's, office

1828
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 11: it does not cost you, anything but it costs the

1829
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 11: treasure in the state Of ohio a lot because those

1830
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 11: checks are pieces of paper and it cost us actually

1831
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 11: a great deal to process all that.

1832
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: Paper Understand so there definitely.

1833
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 11: Are advantages of moving into digital currency, direction but we

1834
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 11: have to be very. Careful we're being, cautious we're being.

1835
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: PRODED i appreciate the prudence and the caution if we

1836
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 1: enter into the great. Unknown robert spraggu he's running For

1837
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: secretary Of state he's currently our treasure help him out

1838
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 1: on his. Campaign sprague For ohio Dot. Com Roberts, BRAGG

1839
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 1: i appreciate your willingness to come on The Morning show

1840
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 1: over the, years AND i wish you the best in the,

1841
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 1: future AND i look forward to having you Ash House

1842
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 1: secretary Of state and further conversations down the, road. Sir

1843
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: it's conversing editor in CHIEF Jahih Press, Network Jack windsor

1844
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: returns talk about the, wines what he refers to his

1845
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: war on, hemp And i'm kind of puzzled over that.

1846
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 1: ONE i know he came out with some pronouncements regarding

1847
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,560
Speaker 1: hemp products the other. Day we'll see if that transcends

1848
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 1: the law on the state of the, land which, is you,

1849
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: know we're allowed to apparently grow hemp at zero point

1850
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: three PERCENT thchc and. Lower, anyway cites his property tax.

1851
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 1: Plan what's in? It what does it mean and what

1852
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: did they come up? With so we'll get that explanation

1853
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: From jack after the top of the. Hour then at

1854
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 1: the bottom of the Ur Corey bowman on the debate last.

1855
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: Night he'll join us at a. Thirty thank You Joe

1856
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 1: streker for making me crack up every TIME i look

1857
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 1: at the, rundown because he didn't Put Corey bowman. Down

1858
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 1: he Put Jade vance's half brother. Down because that seems

1859
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 1: to be the way the Enquire another local media tends

1860
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 1: to refer to him as he has a, name it

1861
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 1: Is Corey. Bowman let's see What bobby's got this. Morning,

1862
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 1: Bobby welcome to The Morning. Show Happy, friday my.

1863
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 2: BROTHER i like to make a comment about the debate

1864
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 2: IF i can absolutely all some. WELL i saw some

1865
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 2: people THAT i. RECOGNIZE i was in the audience and,

1866
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 2: stuff and they're the new cast members of the sitcom

1867
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 2: that there will be producing In. CINCINNATI i don't know

1868
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 2: if it's out yet or, not but it's Called The.

1869
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:14,879
Speaker 1: Grifters you talk about the members of the non governmental

1870
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,719
Speaker 1: organization of those who are influenced by very various paid

1871
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 1: for non governmental organizations Using city Of cincinna taxpayer dollars

1872
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 1: for political. Purposes is that what you're referring?

1873
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 11: To, hello.

1874
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 2: And the next one we got we went ahead to

1875
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 2: sit a shooting handicap For polkopolis at five and a

1876
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 2: half for the. Weekend is that what it?

1877
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: Is, okay, well be a. Shooting i'll be thinking of you, Today,

1878
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 1: bobby going to head out to the range with my

1879
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 1: daughter and her fiance and squeeze off some handgun and

1880
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 1: long gun rounds at my private. Range AND i know

1881
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 1: you're a fan because you always say, faith, family flag and.

1882
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 1: Firearms so your ears are burning Today bobby and me

1883
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 1: have mentioned you on the.

1884
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 2: Range it's, uh it's glock day also.

1885
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 1: Tomorrow my remark three glock days. Tomorrow thank you for

1886
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 1: the extra spot for my friends at twenty three, Three,

1887
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 1: bobby have a wonderful, weekend, man keep the flag. Flying.

1888
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah on the, DEBATE i got to mention this real

1889
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: quick here because the huge problem that popped up After Hyde.

1890
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: Park you, know we all know the backstory on that

1891
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: they have the connected communities. Thing it applies to all.

1892
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: Neighborhoods you have no say as a local, neighborhood one

1893
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: of the fifty two within the city Of. Cincinnati sucks

1894
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 1: to be. You you aren't allowed to control your own.

1895
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: Destiny that's the bottom line and the point on That

1896
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:31,560
Speaker 1: Hyde park, said hell, no they got a petition to

1897
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 1: go on the ballot to repeal that mandate regarding the

1898
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 1: well connected developers and the various projects they were doing

1899
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: in spite of the desires Of Hyde park. Residents, WELL

1900
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 1: i have to have purple kind of addressing this, yesterday

1901
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 1: he claims we're in a housing, crisis and solving the

1902
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: crisis required construction of affordable. Housing got a market force

1903
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 1: problem with that atab sorry, said Since i's previous zoning

1904
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: laws were hindering, progress so what do they? Do they

1905
01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 1: slapped a one size fits all connected communities proposal on every,

1906
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 1: neighborhood and he said that they sometimes need to disagree

1907
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 1: with residents in one part of the town in order

1908
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 1: to help the needs of the residents in the entire.

1909
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 1: City quote tell me if you don't hear little marks

1910
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 1: in this from each according's ability to each accurting to his. Need,

1911
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:20,600
Speaker 1: quote we are going to do the, hard sometimes unpopular

1912
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 1: work of building housing Across cincinnati because pole after pole

1913
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: will show you we need, housing and we need, more

1914
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: specifically affordable, housing suggesting that the city cannot become a

1915
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: city for solely wealthy. People, now is that a marketing

1916
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 1: strategy to bring people in the city Of? Cincinnati in other, words,

1917
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: hey you are always going to be subject to the

1918
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 1: whim of Cincinna City. Council it's unpopular. Work we're doing

1919
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 1: that unpopular work is going to land or potentially could

1920
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: land in your. Neighborhood, so as you're selecting a neighborhood

1921
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 1: that fits your, needs your, style your measure of, affordability

1922
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 1: you might Like Hyde. Park you might look at the

1923
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 1: square and, say, man this is a gorgeous. Neighborhood it's

1924
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: basically a walking. Community look at all the lovely, homes

1925
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 1: look at the, cars look at the, shops look at the.

1926
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 1: STORES i like it. Here but the looming thread is

1927
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 1: that your neighborhood may be, disrupted disrupted in the form

1928
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 1: of a mandated affordable housing. Complex going in there and

1929
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: ask yourself this, question how do you calculate? Affordability you

1930
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 1: old real estate, mantra, location, location, Location AND i would

1931
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 1: argue that the new housing that was originally proposed In Hyde,

1932
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 1: park if you let market forces apply and you don't

1933
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 1: institute sort of rent, control if you want to live

1934
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 1: In Hyde, park it's going to cost you. More let's

1935
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 1: say you have a seven hundred square foot apartment apartment.

1936
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 1: Complex you know you're, OKAY i got my rent on

1937
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 1: seven hundred square. FEET i guarantee you as sure As

1938
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:49,600
Speaker 1: i'm sitting. Here rent on seven hundred square feet In

1939
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Hyde park is going to be a hell of a

1940
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:53,839
Speaker 1: lot less than rent in let's just pick one, Randomly

1941
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: avondale or even on the west, Side West, End Corey

1942
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 1: bauman's down. There how much rent would you get for

1943
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 1: a seven hundred square foot apartment in The West end

1944
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 1: Versus Hyde. Park so you can't just say we are

1945
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 1: going to build affordable housing unless you dictate what exactly

1946
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 1: affordable is and you limit market forces from actually. Applying

1947
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 1: you can see how this works. Out i'd be scared

1948
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 1: as hell about, that AND i don't think that's a

1949
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 1: good look for The city Of. Cincinnati in other, words

1950
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 1: you in any given neighborhood can't control your own. Destiny

1951
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 1: your property values may very well be impacted by something

1952
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: the city. MANDATES i don't like that at, all AND

1953
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 1: i feel very sorry for some of my residents in

1954
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:41,640
Speaker 1: The city Of cincinnati because that's already happened to. Them

1955
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,559
Speaker 1: how much is your house work worth over and, say,

1956
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: OH i don't, know price hill now versus maybe fifteen years,

1957
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 1: ago six right? Now if you have kercity talk, Station

1958
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 1: Jack windsor from The High Press network on that war

1959
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 1: on hemp and we'll figure out around the. COUNTRY i

1960
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 1: need to know the weather in, traffic don't know FI

1961
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: r talkstation appropriately time bumper music From executi Producer Joe.

1962
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 1: Strecker to deal with the first, topic we're going to get.

1963
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 1: Too If Jack windsor returns to these editor in chief

1964
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 1: of The Ihio Press, network which you can find, online

1965
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 1: AND i encourage you to do so The ohio pressnetwork

1966
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 1: dot com front page right. There Governor Ohio governor suspends

1967
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 1: sales intoxicating hemp. Products Jack, windsor it's great having you

1968
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: on the fifty FIVE Krc Morning. Show, Sir welcome On Happy. Friday.

1969
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 12: Brian it's always an honor to be here with you

1970
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 12: and the karc family And, joe thanks for setting it.

1971
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 12: Up always appreciate being.

1972
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 1: Here thank, you AND i love having you on because

1973
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:43,600
Speaker 1: you'll be able to explain a couple of things to.

1974
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: Me most, notably we're going to get to. THIS i you,

1975
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 1: Know I'm i'm confused as hell about The ohio property tax.

1976
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 1: Situation let's table that just for a. MOMENT i THINK

1977
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 1: i UNDERSTAND hemp a little bit. Better that's not a revealing,

1978
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: statement but we have hemp is legal to. Grow i've

1979
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 1: HAD i, Mean Thomas massey worked on this. Forever hemp

1980
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: has what point three or less of the INTOXICATING, thc

1981
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 1: which is the big thing that's going to get your.

1982
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 1: Stone so hemp has got a million different industrial. Uses

1983
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:16,720
Speaker 1: you can make clothes out of, it you can make

1984
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 1: ballpoint pens out of, it you can make wood out of,

1985
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 1: it on and on and. On an amazing multipurpose. Use

1986
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 1: minder staying it's easy to, grow it's it grows. Quickly

1987
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 1: so this has got all kinds of positives built into.

1988
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 1: It BUT i draw a, parallel and, You Jack, windsor

1989
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: can tell me If i'm. WRONG i guess industrial hemp's

1990
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,799
Speaker 1: kind of like the poppy. Plant you can get opium

1991
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: out of, poppy but that's not good. Enough you need something,

1992
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: stronger so you make morphine out of the, opium and

1993
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: then you make heroin out of the. Morphine so you

1994
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 1: keep concentrating it and refining it to the point where

1995
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 1: it gets well dangerous zero point three PERCENT, THHC i,

1996
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 1: guess can be concentrated down to an intoxicating level OF.

1997
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 1: Thc IF i got the lay of the land on that, Right,

1998
01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 1: JACK i think.

1999
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 12: You do you have the lay of the land on

2000
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 12: that and one of the, issues and Then i'll stop

2001
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 12: because you may want to direct me into a different.

2002
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:13,520
Speaker 12: Direction so, one it can be hyper concentrated and extremely.

2003
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,640
Speaker 12: Intoxicating that's number. One but number, TWO i think the

2004
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 12: geist under Which DeWine has proposed This Executive order twenty

2005
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 12: twenty five FIVE. D he's calling it an adulterated consumer

2006
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:30,799
Speaker 12: product emergency is that these products are maybe not labeled

2007
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 12: accurately and they are sold without. Verification so the issue

2008
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 12: That DeWine talks about is a kid can go to

2009
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:43,680
Speaker 12: a corner, store ce, store convenience, store gas station and, say,

2010
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 12: HEY i want some of those things that look like

2011
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 12: gushers or those things that look like cabbage patch kids

2012
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 12: or those things that you know looks look like, whatever

2013
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 12: and buy, them go to, school take, them get. High

2014
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 12: and if you saw the press conference he had On,

2015
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 12: wednesday was really what the lab coat beside him said

2016
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 12: from The Poison Control center was that there has been

2017
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 12: a drastic increase in the number of calls and poison

2018
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 12: cases for nineteen year olds in, below some of those

2019
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 12: resulting in. Hospitalization so there is there are a couple

2020
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 12: of issues, here and we can kind of tease, those

2021
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:21,759
Speaker 12: tease those, out But i'll just stop.

2022
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 1: There, no that's an excellent it's a, great great explanation

2023
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 1: of what's going on. Here so it sounds to me

2024
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 1: like something that's in need of labeling laws or you,

2025
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: know there needs to be, warnings maybe an age cut

2026
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 1: off like there is for, alcohol like there is for

2027
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 1: purchasing legalized. Marijuana you can't just walk into a store

2028
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,720
Speaker 1: and buy weed at a marijuana, shop got to show

2029
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 1: them YOUR id to get, in blah blah. Blah so

2030
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 1: you can go to the like a convenience store and

2031
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 1: buy these concentrates in the form of hemp without any

2032
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 1: other protocols in. Place that that sounds like something to

2033
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 1: be need. Fixing so do you have any criticism with

2034
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 1: the way in which he went about? It this sounds

2035
01:48:57,560 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 1: like it requires legislative.

2036
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:03,799
Speaker 12: Action oh, YEAH i spent my entire radio show yesterday

2037
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 12: Dragging mike to wine BECAUSE i want to remind listeners

2038
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 12: And i'm, sorry not. Sorry this is a guy who

2039
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 12: vetoed The Say act that would have kept kids from

2040
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 12: taking chemical castration drugs and cutting off healthy body. Parts

2041
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 12: this is a guy who used tax dollars to incent

2042
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 12: experimental jabs for, kids which we now know calls my o,

2043
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 12: carditis and we knew back, then but he ignored those.

2044
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 12: Warnings so Whenever Mike DeWine strolls out with a lab

2045
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 12: coat beside him to pretend like he cares for, kids

2046
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 12: my initial thought is how MUCH bs AM i going

2047
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 12: to have to wade through here to get the. Truth

2048
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 12: so that's one, Issue but the second issue is are

2049
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 12: we using a wrecking ball where we could use a?

2050
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 12: Scalpel AND i like, Bourbon i'm not afraid to say,

2051
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 12: that and so WHEN i look at INTOXICATING, HEMP i,

2052
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 12: go why don't we treat it like? Bourbon and WHAT

2053
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 12: i mean by that is if you go to any gas,

2054
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 12: station you can get, beer you can get, wine and

2055
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 12: you can get those little. Fireballs now they're water.

2056
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: Down bourbon or water down. Liquor, basically if it's under

2057
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 1: WHAT abv or something like, that.

2058
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 12: Yes if it's under a certain, percentage you can get.

2059
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 12: It and if you want the good, stuff as bourbon

2060
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 12: drinkers like me would tell, you you go to AN

2061
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 12: ohlq site In kroger or In Giant. Eagle so why

2062
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 12: can't we do the same, thing and people, go, well you,

2063
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 12: know do you know how hard it is to let

2064
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 12: people know that they need to? Card AND i, go, well,

2065
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 12: no that seems like a strong man, argument because if

2066
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 12: he's going to outlaw intoxicating him by the, fourteenth guess

2067
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 12: what he's going to communicate WITH cea, stores gas stations

2068
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 12: and other purveyors of these. Products why can't you then

2069
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 12: say in that, communication we're going to require you to,

2070
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 12: card and then you can start this process of making

2071
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 12: sure the labels are, accurate making sure that we create

2072
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 12: rules through legislation around how much concentrated hemp you can.

2073
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 12: Sell but why can't we treat it like? Alcohol my big,

2074
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 12: Beef by the, WAY i have some friends in the

2075
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:06,759
Speaker 12: alcohol distribution. BUSINESS i don't understand why an alcohol distribution

2076
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 12: business who sells hemp beverages is now required to take

2077
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 12: all of that off their shelves when, frankly those are

2078
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 12: the ones that are probably labeled accurately and sold to adult.

2079
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 12: Consumers so, again this feels to me like a wrecking,

2080
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 12: ball whereas scalpel is. NEEDED i hope that makes.

2081
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,520
Speaker 1: Sense it, does And i'm not disagreeing with you. Fundamentally

2082
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: now are there quality controls in connection with the so

2083
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 1: called intoxicating hemp Products because you go to a marijuana,

2084
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: store it's got all kinds of quality. Controls it has

2085
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 1: to tay exact concentrations when it was, inspected it was

2086
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: expected by a third party outside. Inspector so you get

2087
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 1: some level of comfort what you're smoking or taking whatever

2088
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 1: isn't laden with all kinds of chemicals or mites or.

2089
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 1: That now with the concentrated hemp, industry are they subject

2090
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: to those quality?

2091
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 12: Controls you know they are, not and they should. Be

2092
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 12: AND i think that is the crux of the issue

2093
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 12: is how do we get our arms around the, packaging

2094
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 12: what's inside the package and making sure that it's, compliant

2095
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:10,560
Speaker 12: that it's, accurate that it's. Safe and so that is

2096
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 12: certainly a steer that we have to wrestle with. HERE i,

2097
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 12: mean if you look at the story we have on

2098
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 12: the iiO press, network we have, them we have pictures

2099
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,639
Speaker 12: There gushers and then you have some other smaller branded.

2100
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:24,520
Speaker 12: Gushers that is. Confusing and by the, way that's probably

2101
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,560
Speaker 12: an intellectual property. ISSUE i, mean that's a lawsuit waiting to.

2102
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 12: HAPPEN i can't believe somebody has sued those. Distributors, Right, so,

2103
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 12: yes those are issues THAT i think we have to wrestle.

2104
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 12: With but, AGAIN i think we do it. Legislatively but

2105
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 12: here's the other ISSUE i want to bring, Up, brian

2106
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 12: BECAUSE i THINK i think it needs to be. DISCUSSED

2107
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 12: i have a fundamental. Issue if we're going to do

2108
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:49,560
Speaker 12: this the same way that we did, casinos we created a.

2109
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 12: Cartel we created a government. Monopoly and if you're telling

2110
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 12: me that in order to sell, hemp you have to

2111
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 12: now do it through the handful of dispensaries that our government,

2112
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:01,839
Speaker 12: APPROVED i think that creates an other government created, monopoly

2113
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 12: AND i think that stifles. Competition And i'm not for

2114
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 12: that makes.

2115
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:08,799
Speaker 1: Sense it, does and we outright rejected that cartel. Situation

2116
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 1: the voters Of, ohio the ones that approved legalization in,

2117
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 1: marijuana ultimately said hell no to these hands selected what

2118
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 1: we always referred to as cartel. MEMBERS i remember talking

2119
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 1: to the people who were behind the, effort and when

2120
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 1: you look behind the, Scenes, GEE i wonder how somebody

2121
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 1: was hand. Selected, oh it's because You're John bayner and

2122
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 1: you're part of one of the collectives that is pushing

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01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,839
Speaker 1: for one of these, licenses so and it was supposed

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01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 1: to go into The constitution at the time as. Well

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01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 1: oh my, god what a train wreck that. Was so

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01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 1: nobody out there in The ohio population wants to go

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01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 1: down that. Road Jack, ones, RIGHT i agree with. You,

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01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 1: now is there something in connection with the chemical nature

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01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:47,800
Speaker 1: of this intoxicating? Himp BECAUSE i know law enforcements always

2130
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:50,599
Speaker 1: struggling and legislators elect officials always struggling with they come

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01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 1: out with a designer drug which is not on anybody's

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01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 1: field of. Vision it doesn't. Exist it comes up one,

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01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 1: day it gets people whacked out of their, mind but

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01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 1: it's not. Scheduled they have to pass a loss scheduling

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01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 1: that new. Compound is there some component of that involved

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01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: with the type OF thhc that's coming out of these.

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Speaker 12: CONCENTRATES i think that's exactly what's going to happen this executive.

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01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 12: ORDER i believe it has empowered The High department Of

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01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 12: agriculture to determine what is intoxicating hemp and what is legal. Hemp,

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01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 12: essentially because intoxicating hemp will then be forbidden at least

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01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 12: for ninety, days unless the legislature says after thirty, days,

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01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 12: no we're going to handle. This there's no more emergency.

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01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 12: Order SO i think what they're going to have to

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01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 12: wrestle with is exactly what you're talking, about what is

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01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 12: the concentration. Level and we're going to have to get

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01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 12: that stuff though over the finish line in, bills not executive,

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01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 12: orders and SO i think that's where this will shake.

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01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 12: Out the challenge that we're going to run into is

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01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 12: the governor's intoxicating hemp ban has already drawn a. Lawsuit

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01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 12: The Ohio Healthy Alternatives association Said thursday it's suing to

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01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 12: block the executive. Action so this will likely get tied

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01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 12: up in. Court so potentially that executive order might you,

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01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 12: know a judge might issue a stay while this plays

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01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 12: out in. Court, yeah and so we're gonna have time

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01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 12: to figure all that.

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01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 10: Out.

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01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 1: Well if they issue an, injunction that is a suggestive

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01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 1: of likelihood of success on the, merits meaning those who

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01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 1: are seeking to stop this executive. Order if they get an,

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01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 1: injunction then the court has already determined that maybe something was.

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01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 1: Wrong he didn't have the authority to do, it he

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01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 1: overstepped his. Boundary this is something that belongs to the legislative.

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01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 1: Branch so popcorn's out on that. One Jack winsor will

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01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 1: see what happens points well taken this, Morning i'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: What we'll pause, now we'll bring you. Back see if

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01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,839
Speaker 1: you can unpackage property tax in the state Of. Ohio,

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01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 1: Yes Bill Sitz's Property Tax Working group has issued their

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01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 1: recommendations war With Jack windsor after these brief words stick.

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Speaker 3: Around fifty FIVE. Krc it's eighteen on A.

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Speaker 1: Friday Happy friday to. You bottom of the. Hour we're

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01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 1: gonna hear From Corey bowman aka Jd vance's half. Brother

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01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 1: thank You joe on the rundown. Anytime jack wins is

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01:55:58,240 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 1: on the. Front he's a editor in chief of The

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Speaker 1: Ohio Press. Network final online ad of, course The Ohio

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01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 1: Press network dot. Com real quick comment on the last, Topic,

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01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 1: jack question from one of my listeners on an instant, Message,

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01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Well governor to, wine build a build a wall to

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01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 1: block the borders From ohio To kentucky and Maybe indiana

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Speaker 1: in order to keep intoxicating hemp products. OUT i guess

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01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: the next question on that Real, Briefly Jack, windsor this

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01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 1: doesn't stop people from ordering it online and having it

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01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 1: delivered to their front, door does?

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Speaker 12: It, well that's a great, question and that's a question

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01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 12: THAT i didn't have an answer to, yesterday And i'm

2185
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 12: still trying to. Discern the initial answer was, no they

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01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 12: can still do the mail order, thing BUT i was

2187
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 12: warned yesterday that that might be a sticky. Area so

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01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 12: if that's what you're, DOING i don't want to give

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01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 12: any legal. Advice and, frankly, AGAIN i think that there's

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01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 12: probably going to be an injunction issued BECAUSE hemp is,

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01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 12: legal and there are not laws essentially being, broken and

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01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 12: so you have an executive order to me that does

2193
01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 12: not have a law to backstop. It SO i think

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01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 12: we're kind of in murky water. HERE i think the

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01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 12: best the wine is going to get is a, pause

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01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 12: and we're gonna probably have to get the lawmakers, involved

2197
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 12: AND i think they're frankly between you and me as

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01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 12: we toggle to this next, TOPIC i think lawmakers are

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01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 12: collectively rolling their eyes like there goes the governor, again you,

2200
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 12: know trying to trying to play congressional representative or state

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01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 12: lawmaker instead of playing. Governor AND i think they're about

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01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 12: to take the reins on, this.

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01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 1: Right he'll get smacked by the courts and then the,

2204
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 1: lawmakers recognizing the obvious need for some fixes and some

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01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 1: holes in the bucket being, plugged should act very. Quickly

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01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 1: this seems like a no, Brainer, jack all, right what

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01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 1: isn't a Nor Property Tax Working group and the. Recommendations

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01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 1: we've got a serious problem in the state Of, ohio

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Speaker 1: so much so there's a baut initiative to eliminate all

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01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 1: property taxes at constitutional. Amendment AND i know that's got

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01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people quicking in their, boots AND i

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01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 1: sort of smile over the concept BECAUSE i love the

2213
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 1: idea of not having property, taxes but The charlie foxtrot

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01:57:56,640 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 1: reality of having no property taxes up ends the whole

2215
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 1: financing structure for parks and police and fire and local

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01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 1: issues and school. Boards and are we gonna Let columbus

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01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 1: decide where the money goes and are they going to

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01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 1: collect some extra sales tax? Whatever but, that of course

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01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 1: has resulted in The Property Tax Working group on the

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Speaker 1: heels of the veto of three provisions that would have

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Speaker 1: provided some measure of relief for O high as it

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01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 1: was in the. Budget dwaine promised that none of The

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01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: Property Tech Working group is going to give us some

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01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 1: great ideas and here they. Are is there anything in

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01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 1: This Property Tax Working group that you can explain to my,

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01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 1: listeners because AS i read, it my eyes gloss over

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01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 1: jacket really is painful to.

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Speaker 10: Read let me.

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Speaker 12: Take two tracks. Here the first one is to shed

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01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 12: light on how serious this. IS i, believe based on

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01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 12: my conversations with, Lawmakers, brian that lawmakers Take Governor Dowin's

2232
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 12: Property Tax Reform Working, group stacked with lobbyists who have

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01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 12: vested interest in maintaining the status, quo about as seriously

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01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 12: as guys like you and me would take a toddler's

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01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:00,560
Speaker 12: crayon scribbled business plan for running a lemonade stand. IN i,

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01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 12: mean it's, king but at the end of the, day

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01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 12: we're looking at a toddler's. Work that's totally HOW i

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01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:12,800
Speaker 12: feel that lawmakers are looking at, this and you're, right real,

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01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 12: quick just a, Reminder Originally County Budget commission authority would

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Speaker 12: have been increased in the, budget cash balance carryovers for

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01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 12: schools would have been, restricted a revamp at the twenty

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01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 12: mili floor calculation would have been in, play and school

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01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 12: district leve levees would have been restricted because it would

2244
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:34,120
Speaker 12: have take away misnomers like emergency and replacement. Levees dwine

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01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 12: didn't like. Those but here's at the end of the, Day,

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01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 12: no when you talk about, one lawmakers are not taking this.

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01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 12: Seriously so regardless of what they did or didn't, do

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01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 12: DON'T i don't think it's going to, make you, know

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01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 12: a bit of.

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Speaker 1: Difference but.

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Speaker 12: It was a symbolic. GESTURE i, mean there was some

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01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 12: focus on short term, fixes like they would move the

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01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 12: carryover balance that schools could carry over to one hundred

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02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 12: percent instead of forty. Percent they would create this five

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02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 12: year glide path for, levies which essentially, says look their,

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02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 12: grandfathers you can't cut them. Right and there was a

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02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 12: lot of support for existing pieces of, legislation and so to,

2258
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:20,520
Speaker 12: me it shied away from radical, overhauls prioritizing what they

2259
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 12: would call fairness and transparency over deep. Cuts and at

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02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,360
Speaker 12: the end of the, Day, BRIAN i think you hit

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02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 12: it nail on the. Head at the, beginning this feels

2262
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:33,320
Speaker 12: like we're rearranging deck furniture on The titanic because property

2263
02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 12: taxes might be a sinking ship in the state Of.

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02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:40,360
Speaker 12: Ohio citizens said all, right lawmakers, Listened they put it

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02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:43,520
Speaker 12: in the. Budget dwind, vetoed and now they did the

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02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 12: right and they came up with this twenty point plan

2267
02:00:46,120 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 12: that doesn't seem to make a damn bit of difference

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02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:50,560
Speaker 12: for the average. TAXPAYER i think what this has done

2269
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 12: is it has increased interest in totally slashing property, taxes making,

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02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 12: them you, know. Unconstitutional that's WHERE i think we're.

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02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:03,880
Speaker 1: At how let me just test the, Waters Jack, windsor

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02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:07,200
Speaker 1: how does that play out in? Reality going back to my,

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02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 1: point you take away the local property tax, issues you

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02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:13,520
Speaker 1: take away the local levy issues because there's no more property.

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02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:17,600
Speaker 1: Tax how does how do you sort of deal with the? Aftermath?

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02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 12: Jack, yeah no fair, Question And i'm really glad that

2277
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:22,800
Speaker 12: you're holding my feet to the fire on. This the

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02:01:22,920 --> 02:01:25,160
Speaker 12: Example i'll give you that's cheeky is if you ever

2279
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:28,080
Speaker 12: taken a drug of choice away from an, addict an

2280
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:30,520
Speaker 12: addict will always find a way to get their drug of,

2281
02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 12: choice you, know all things being. Equal, well you're trying

2282
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,600
Speaker 12: to take money away from people addicted to power and.

2283
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:38,000
Speaker 12: Money eventually they're going to figure out a way to

2284
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 12: get their. Money and SO i think the real question

2285
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:43,080
Speaker 12: is has it been done? Before and the answer is,

2286
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:46,760
Speaker 12: yes places Like Wyoming, Tennessee, Nevada, Florida, washington they have

2287
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 12: a state income tax of. Zero now In ohio we

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02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:52,520
Speaker 12: have a two point seventy five percent flat. TAX i

2289
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:54,600
Speaker 12: think we're headed to zero, there but right now it's

2290
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 12: two point seventy five. Percent those other states THAT i just,

2291
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 12: named they have zero point six percent point sixty six

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02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 12: point six to eight point eight nine point ninety, two almost,

2293
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 12: zero but not zero property. Tax and so, ultimately if

2294
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 12: we have two point seventy five percent income, tax that

2295
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 12: buoy's some of that. Money it's just we're going to

2296
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 12: have to change The Ohio Revised code and rules and

2297
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 12: The High Administrative code on how money flows through to those,

2298
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 12: entities particularly, schools fire, departments and police. Departments but, overall

2299
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 12: when you look at this these other, states you, know

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02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 12: no income, tax low property.

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02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:28,800
Speaker 10: Tax what do they?

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Speaker 12: Do then they rely on sales tax seven to ten,

2303
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:35,400
Speaker 12: percent or excise taxes or business. Taxes so there are

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02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 12: other revenue, streams and what we will simply see is

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02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 12: an increase in those taxes and in those. Assessments But

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02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 12: i'm going to go back to if you ever take

2307
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:46,560
Speaker 12: a drug of choice away from an, addict they always

2308
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 12: find their drug of. CHOICE i don't think we're going

2309
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 12: to have an issue with The General assembly or other

2310
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 12: people in power finding a way to get the money

2311
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:56,280
Speaker 12: that they. Want we're just going to have. To we

2312
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 12: all like, change, Right it's the transition that. Sucks it's the.

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02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 12: Transition it's going to be tough because we're going to

2314
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 12: have to go from relying on property taxes to fund

2315
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:07,200
Speaker 12: these things to relying on other revenue. Streams but, ULTIMATELY

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02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:08,160
Speaker 12: i think that's what's going to.

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02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 1: Happen, well they're gonna have to get ahead of the

2318
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:11,440
Speaker 1: curve on this property tax issue where they look at

2319
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:14,000
Speaker 1: the work property tax working group, stuff or some go

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02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:16,600
Speaker 1: down some other path because they're going to have a

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02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:19,760
Speaker 1: lot of work to do in electric. Capacity if we

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02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:22,320
Speaker 1: repeal the property tax In, ohio they're gonna have to

2323
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:25,280
Speaker 1: do a lot of work to. Do, yeah all, right

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02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 1: for Sid Jack, windsor you can find him again at

2325
02:03:28,640 --> 02:03:31,880
Speaker 1: The Ohio Press network and we'll look for you. Online Jack,

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02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: winsor appreciate what you.

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02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:32,920
Speaker 12: Do.

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02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:34,760
Speaker 1: Man you're always welcome here on the fifty Five Krssey.

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02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 1: Morning you should have a great, weekend Brother, brian you,

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02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:42,720
Speaker 1: too thank. You, Decation Happy, Friday early voting is going

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Speaker 1: on right. Now you apparently have twenty eight days and

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Speaker 1: you can see the countdown At coreybowman dot. Com it's

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Speaker 1: right there on the front page of his. Website twenty five,

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Speaker 1: days eleven, hours fifty nine minutes and now eighteen seconds to.

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Speaker 1: Vote Corey, Bowman welcome back to the fifty Five Cassey Morning.

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Speaker 1: Show on the heels of your debate against aftab pervol

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Speaker 1: last night At. Xavier how you feel this, Morning, Corey.

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Speaker 13: Well i'm chilling a lot. BETTER i just stopped by

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02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:06,560
Speaker 13: my shop and got my first quartato for the, day

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02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:09,600
Speaker 13: so it's gonna be a good day, today. Sir how

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Speaker 13: you doing great to have be on the. Show it's.

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Speaker 1: Great so you Know wednesday night at the smitham and.

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Speaker 1: FUNDRAISER i, MEAN i know you pretty, Well. COREY i

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02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 1: Mean i've talked to you a lot on the, Air

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02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 1: i've talked to you off. Air i've heard you comment

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02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:23,160
Speaker 1: In in no, way shape or form WOULD i ever

2347
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:27,760
Speaker 1: like declare you as some sort of maga, conservative which

2348
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 1: apparently is exactly what after have Pro ball came, out

2349
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:33,760
Speaker 1: we created a drinking game yesterday in anticipation or. Debate

2350
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 1: anytime someone Mentions trump OR. Maga that was a, shot

2351
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 1: and of course he accused you of being A Maga.

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02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 1: REPUBLICAN i don't know why the. Audience somebody said he

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02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:45,440
Speaker 1: said you're A maga extremist and the audience. Booting SO

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02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:47,040
Speaker 1: i don't know why the audience is. Doing and the

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02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 1: fact that he REPRESENTS. MAGA i, mean you either support

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02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 1: The trump agenda or you. Don't you can't run for

2357
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:55,560
Speaker 1: mayor and not be concerned with the federal employees who

2358
02:04:55,560 --> 02:04:58,880
Speaker 1: are getting, fired not be concerned with the racializing of

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02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 1: our own public safety challenges here in. Community, DUDE i

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02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 1: have never heard you racialize. Anything i've never heard you

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02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:08,080
Speaker 1: even address federal level funding and spending because you're not

2362
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 1: running for an office that controls or has anything to

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02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:13,640
Speaker 1: do with. It that did that really irk? YOU i

2364
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 1: guess this is my fundamental. Question did you feel, like

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02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 1: oh my, GOD i have to actually spend time pointing

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02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:21,600
Speaker 1: this reality? Out?

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02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:24,000
Speaker 5: WELL i don't.

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Speaker 13: Know it's because basically we knew that these were going

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02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 13: to be the talking. Points you, know the playbook's always the.

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02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:32,320
Speaker 13: Same and for, me like you, said we're running this

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02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:35,360
Speaker 13: race For, cincinnati and so our biggest battle that we've

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02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:38,600
Speaker 13: had throughout the entire. Year is just showing people that

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02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:41,400
Speaker 13: we're not running this based on copy and pasting national.

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Speaker 13: POLITICS i have opinions on national, politics like everybody, does

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02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:48,520
Speaker 13: but that really shouldn't be brought to city hall when

2376
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:51,640
Speaker 13: it comes to just fixing your roads and making sure

2377
02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:54,000
Speaker 13: the money spent properly and make sure that your crime

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02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 13: is in. Order these are practical issues that require just

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02:05:58,320 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 13: common sense, solutions AND i think that's what people are tired,

2380
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 13: of you. Know and people were booing when that was brought,

2381
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 13: up because that's what people are fed up. With they're

2382
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:10,320
Speaker 13: fed up with people from city hall trying to act

2383
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:13,280
Speaker 13: like they're on a national stage when really we need

2384
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:14,800
Speaker 13: to be focusing on the people that are on the

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Speaker 13: streets Of. Cincinnati and that's.

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02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:20,440
Speaker 1: It, well and they kept coming back with. IT i

2387
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:23,040
Speaker 1: noticed the end of the, debate they just ask you, out, Pointy,

2388
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:27,240
Speaker 1: plank if there's anything you disagree With trump on. AGAIN i,

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02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:30,320
Speaker 1: Mean trump's dealing with global, affairs, warfare he's dealing with

2390
02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:34,400
Speaker 1: interstate commerce, issues fighting like national drug. CRISES i, MEAN

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02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:36,960
Speaker 1: i know what they're trying to.

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Speaker 12: Do.

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02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 1: Corey i'm not an, idiot but you know IT'S i think,

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02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:44,200
Speaker 1: personally it's insulting to the audience in the, crowd who

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02:06:44,240 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 1: are presumably residents of The city Of cincinnati or care

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02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:50,440
Speaker 1: about City cincinnati issues for him to be pushing things

2397
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 1: on a national. Level Christopher smithlan has harped on this

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02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 1: for years and. Years why are they passing ordinances in

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02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:58,960
Speaker 1: the city Of cincinnati saying something like we disagree With.

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02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 1: Israel he got no connection With. Israel get back to

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02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:06,040
Speaker 1: the business of the city Of. Cincinnati, Dammit, no you're absolutely.

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02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 13: True you, know there's obviously things from the national level

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02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:14,160
Speaker 13: that impact local. Citizens and so if there is clear Anti,

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02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:18,600
Speaker 13: semitism that there's clear discrimination against a certain group for a,

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02:07:18,760 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 13: race that's stuff that we have to stand up against

2406
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 13: him matter. What but you know what's funny is THAT

2407
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:26,240
Speaker 13: i was at THE boe AND i was casting my.

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02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 13: Vote i'm a little. BIASED i won't tell you WHO

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02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:31,920
Speaker 13: i voted. For but As i'm, THERE i speak with

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02:07:32,040 --> 02:07:35,960
Speaker 13: a gentleman and he's wearing A palestine sweatshirt, on and

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02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:39,400
Speaker 13: initially he's yelling at my guys because he disagrees with

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02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:41,680
Speaker 13: a lot of stuff from a national standpoint of what

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02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 13: the conservative movement stands. FOR i spoke with him for five,

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02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:48,840
Speaker 13: minutes AND i kid you, not after five, minutes he

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02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 13: realized what we were running this race on and he

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02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:54,160
Speaker 13: told me point, Blank i'm going to switch my vote

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02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 13: from mappab to you because of what you've just told

2418
02:07:56,960 --> 02:07:59,160
Speaker 13: me right. Now SO i just think that that is

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02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:02,760
Speaker 13: symbolic of what this campaign has to, represent is just

2420
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 13: getting people to, realize we have to run this For.

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02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 13: Cincinnati we have to take care of our own. Streets you,

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02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:10,920
Speaker 13: know one thing last night they kept, saying AND i don't,

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02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:13,880
Speaker 13: KNOW i don't know whether he just has people in

2424
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:17,280
Speaker 13: his ear that flat out, lie but he kept saying

2425
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:20,360
Speaker 13: That i've called for The National guard to come To

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02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,720
Speaker 13: cincinnati Never and What i've What i've told people over

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02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 13: and over and over is that number, one we don't

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02:08:26,480 --> 02:08:29,320
Speaker 13: have violent riot currently in the. Streets that's not the,

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02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:32,480
Speaker 13: case that we don't need. It Number, two a city

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02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:35,720
Speaker 13: that's run properly can actually take care of its own.

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02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:38,560
Speaker 13: Crime but that's not what's happening right. Now we've got

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02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:41,640
Speaker 13: to change this from internal structure Within.

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Speaker 1: Well pause Ring corey bumming. Back we'll talk about the

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02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 1: crime specific conversation and, exchange but ALSO i want to

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02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:51,200
Speaker 1: talk to him about the exchange about controlling one's own

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02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:54,080
Speaker 1: destiny in one's own neighborhood within the city Of, cincinnati

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02:08:54,120 --> 02:08:56,680
Speaker 1: insofar as property. GOES i thought that was rather revealing

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02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 1: what they have. Had Pro baoll revealed yesterday eight thirty,

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02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:02,280
Speaker 1: Six right now With Corey bowman after these brief, words.

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02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,880
Speaker 3: Fifty FIVE krc is your five million talk.

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02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:07,400
Speaker 1: Station Brent towmins With Corey, bowman mayoral. Candidate find the

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02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:09,720
Speaker 1: on Line Corey bowman dot. Com we have a choice

2443
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:12,680
Speaker 1: and it is open voting right. NOW i want to

2444
02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:14,360
Speaker 1: pivot over to housing and, development AND i have to

2445
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:16,480
Speaker 1: have Pro ball was on and on Yesterday Corey bowman

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02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:20,080
Speaker 1: about the need to create and build affordable. HOUSING i

2447
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:22,240
Speaker 1: think he claims he wants to. Build he personally is

2448
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:24,040
Speaker 1: going to get a hammer out and build forty thousand

2449
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 1: affordable housing. Units before we get to the question of

2450
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:29,360
Speaker 1: what exactly is affordability and is it the same in

2451
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:32,160
Speaker 1: any given. Neighborhood he sure as hell pointed out that

2452
02:09:32,280 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 1: you do not really have the right to self. Determination

2453
02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 1: we need affordable. Housing he's firm in that in order

2454
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:41,520
Speaker 1: to solve that, crisis we have to build. Them and

2455
02:09:41,720 --> 02:09:44,640
Speaker 1: he said the prior zoning laws were what was binding

2456
02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 1: or hindering. Progress, NOW i know you'll have a word

2457
02:09:47,240 --> 02:09:49,720
Speaker 1: or two on that in your neighborhood, specifically you know

2458
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:54,960
Speaker 1: what was hindering. Progress but he said sometimes that the

2459
02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:58,320
Speaker 1: council and the mayors always need to disagree with residents

2460
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:01,040
Speaker 1: in one part of town or to address the needs

2461
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:03,760
Speaker 1: of residence in the entire, city saying we're going to

2462
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:08,680
Speaker 1: do the, hard sometimes unpopular work of building housing across

2463
02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 1: the city because pole after pole will show you we

2464
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:12,880
Speaker 1: need this kind of affordable. HOUSING i, mean he's isn't

2465
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:14,920
Speaker 1: he basically saying that if you move in the city Of,

2466
02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 1: cincinnati you're under threat or risk of having your neighborhood

2467
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:22,160
Speaker 1: completely transformed in spite of what you want on popular

2468
02:10:22,200 --> 02:10:24,919
Speaker 1: as may, be by them foisting a bunch of affordable

2469
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 1: housing in your. Neighborhood that is not exactly a welcome

2470
02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:30,879
Speaker 1: sign for moving to the city Of. Cincinnati Corey, bowman your, response,

2471
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:33,560
Speaker 1: NOW i think that you, know.

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02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 13: The argument on the other side is that you know

2473
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 13: what we're seeing from the federal government, dictatorship and you,

2474
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:40,520
Speaker 13: know taking authority where you.

2475
02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 5: Shouldn't but that's exactly what we.

2476
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:45,520
Speaker 13: Saw last night from From Atpa purval and he said

2477
02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:48,080
Speaker 13: the he, said the real part out loud is that,

2478
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:51,720
Speaker 13: basically no matter what you feel about your, neighborhoods no

2479
02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:54,600
Speaker 13: matter what you feel about, development we are going to

2480
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:58,640
Speaker 13: issue our own, development our own standards on, zoning and

2481
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:00,520
Speaker 13: you're not going to have anything to say about. It

2482
02:11:00,720 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 13: AND i don't think that's Right cincinnati. Especially you, know

2483
02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:07,360
Speaker 13: it's one thing to regulate certain things downtown because you

2484
02:11:07,480 --> 02:11:10,280
Speaker 13: have to have businesses and you have to have residential

2485
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 13: all working. Together but we are a city of fifty two.

2486
02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:16,920
Speaker 13: Neighborhoods every neighborhood has its own, uniqueness its own. Character

2487
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:19,000
Speaker 13: and if you're sitting there saying that we're going to

2488
02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:23,160
Speaker 13: copy and paste our own, design development and zoning regulations

2489
02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:25,680
Speaker 13: on you and you basically can't say anything about, it,

2490
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:28,920
Speaker 13: well in my, mind that is not properly representing the

2491
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:31,480
Speaker 13: people of your. City AND i don't think that's. Right you,

2492
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 13: know we see that in The West. End they've put

2493
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 13: somewhereabouts you, can you, know basically prove about sixty seven

2494
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:40,880
Speaker 13: to seventy, percent but really it's about you, know closer

2495
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:44,280
Speaker 13: to eighty percent of affordable, housing and they keep calling

2496
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:47,480
Speaker 13: it affordable housing and government subsidized. Housing you, know LIKE

2497
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:50,320
Speaker 13: i jokingly, said BUT i knew the fact that it

2498
02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:53,800
Speaker 13: is thirty sixty. Percent. AMI i have a friend that's

2499
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:57,120
Speaker 13: developing a property across the street from my coffee. Shop

2500
02:11:57,200 --> 02:12:00,320
Speaker 13: he's doing eighty. Percent. Ami it's just government stuff to die.

2501
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:03,040
Speaker 13: Housing to try to put it, down the problem is

2502
02:12:03,160 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 13: is that what they're funding is organizations in goos and

2503
02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:11,120
Speaker 13: people that don't have the tenant's best interest at. Heart

2504
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:14,840
Speaker 13: they're funneling, money and then on top of, that they're

2505
02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 13: building concrete blocks that basically feel like a, prison and

2506
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:21,240
Speaker 13: they really are because they're keeping people in poverty the

2507
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:24,080
Speaker 13: rest of their. Lives there's no pathway. Out AND i

2508
02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:27,640
Speaker 13: couldn't disagree more with the policy of what's been happening.

2509
02:12:27,880 --> 02:12:30,440
Speaker 1: Currently, well you may have answered my question because earlier

2510
02:12:30,440 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 1: in the, PROGRAM i was, saying what is affordable? Housing

2511
02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:34,320
Speaker 1: just like you. Are no one ever puts a dollar

2512
02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:36,960
Speaker 1: sign on, it, necessarily but even if they, did if

2513
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:40,600
Speaker 1: you build a complex In Hyde, park six hundred square foot,

2514
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:43,880
Speaker 1: apartments that's going to command a certain rent because it's

2515
02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:45,840
Speaker 1: in a certain. Neighborhood now if you build the same

2516
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:48,440
Speaker 1: complex in your neighborhood in The West, end would a

2517
02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:51,000
Speaker 1: six hundred square foot apartment command the same rent as

2518
02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:54,640
Speaker 1: an apartment In Hyde? Park Location location, LOCATION i would suggest,

2519
02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:57,040
Speaker 1: perhaps at least as of right, Now Hyde park's going

2520
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 1: to command a much higher rent because of market forces and.

2521
02:12:59,320 --> 02:13:04,360
Speaker 13: Desirability, no, absolutely and, honestly and that's why the entirety

2522
02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 13: of The West side is so up in arms right

2523
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 13: now is because you can buy a house with the same,

2524
02:13:09,800 --> 02:13:13,680
Speaker 13: property same architectural design on the west, side same, beauty same,

2525
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:16,640
Speaker 13: character and then you buy the same house on the east,

2526
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:18,000
Speaker 13: side and the east side is going to go for

2527
02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:21,920
Speaker 13: one hundred and two hundred thousand. More and so what

2528
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:25,000
Speaker 13: happens is that these, policies when it comes to the affordable,

2529
02:13:25,040 --> 02:13:28,880
Speaker 13: housing ultimately you're kind of trying to mimic or you're not,

2530
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:31,680
Speaker 13: mimic but you're trying to dictate the, market and when

2531
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:35,000
Speaker 13: you do that property value just goes. Down, overall you're

2532
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:39,320
Speaker 13: concentrating the. Poverty therefore you're concentrating the. Crime and then

2533
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:42,480
Speaker 13: one Thing i'd say to the opposition is that you're

2534
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:46,360
Speaker 13: showing up for photo ops to Paint Black Lives matter

2535
02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:50,080
Speaker 13: on City, hall but really Do black lives matter when

2536
02:13:50,120 --> 02:13:52,760
Speaker 13: it comes to this affordable. Housing from What i've, seen

2537
02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:57,880
Speaker 13: you concentrate poverty and, crime which inadversly it affects the black.

2538
02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:00,120
Speaker 13: Communities and that's something that we have to. Fight we

2539
02:14:00,200 --> 02:14:03,720
Speaker 13: have to give everybody the opportunity to have a step

2540
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:07,120
Speaker 13: up in. Prosperity and that's not what's. Happening that is

2541
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:09,080
Speaker 13: not what's. Happening all, right we're gonna pivot over to.

2542
02:14:09,200 --> 02:14:11,200
Speaker 13: Crime we'll take a quick break right, now Bring Corey

2543
02:14:11,240 --> 02:14:14,280
Speaker 13: bowman back to talk about the back and forth yesterday

2544
02:14:14,360 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 13: during the debate At Zavier university on. Crime one more

2545
02:14:17,840 --> 02:14:21,200
Speaker 13: with mayor ole Candidate Corey bowman again online At coreybowman dot.

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02:14:21,280 --> 02:14:24,920
Speaker 3: Com let's be right back fifty FIVE Krc Sports.

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02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:38,760
Speaker 1: STATION i share that sentiment on A, Friday Corey bowman's

2548
02:14:38,760 --> 02:14:40,560
Speaker 1: on the line he was involved in the debate With.

2549
02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:42,600
Speaker 1: MAYOR i have to Have. PURVOL i think he did

2550
02:14:42,640 --> 02:14:45,040
Speaker 1: an excellent job last. Night Corey, bowman and you got

2551
02:14:45,080 --> 02:14:48,800
Speaker 1: one more debate with the. MAYOR i guess real quick

2552
02:14:48,840 --> 02:14:51,360
Speaker 1: here on the property, THING i Think MAYOR i have

2553
02:14:51,400 --> 02:14:53,200
Speaker 1: to Have parvol said something along the. LINES a city

2554
02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:56,880
Speaker 1: can't become a city just solely for wealthy. People but

2555
02:14:57,160 --> 02:14:59,840
Speaker 1: isn't that exactly what they did when they gentrified over The,

2556
02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:02,960
Speaker 1: ryan kicking a lot of longtime residents out because they

2557
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:04,920
Speaker 1: can no longer afford, it moving in a bunch of

2558
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:09,600
Speaker 1: urban hipsters because they came with jobs and salaries that are, Taxed,

2559
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:11,840
Speaker 1: corey wasn't that the point of? Gentrification?

2560
02:15:13,480 --> 02:15:16,680
Speaker 13: No and then also in the current area OF, otr

2561
02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:19,960
Speaker 13: everybody wants to talk about south Of, Liberty that's where

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02:15:20,080 --> 02:15:22,680
Speaker 13: the mayor has all the. Videos nobody wants to talk

2563
02:15:22,680 --> 02:15:26,680
Speaker 13: About north Of. Liberty you, know last NIGHT i invited

2564
02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:29,520
Speaker 13: the Guests Ronda winn to be on the front. Road,

2565
02:15:29,960 --> 02:15:31,960
Speaker 13: Now i'll be honest with, You i've had talked with

2566
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:34,880
Speaker 13: her and she wasn't fully convinced about the race. Yet

2567
02:15:35,200 --> 02:15:37,800
Speaker 13: she's just trying to get justice for her daughter's murder

2568
02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:42,680
Speaker 13: that happened north Of liberty IN. Otr and still to this,

2569
02:15:42,920 --> 02:15:45,240
Speaker 13: day the mayor has not reached out to. Her last,

2570
02:15:45,320 --> 02:15:47,200
Speaker 13: night he had a perfect example to meet her and

2571
02:15:47,320 --> 02:15:49,480
Speaker 13: didn't meet her on the front. Row and then so

2572
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:52,120
Speaker 13: Afterwards Ms ronda comes up to. Me he, Says i'm with.

2573
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:53,280
Speaker 13: You we're going to get this.

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02:15:53,400 --> 02:15:55,760
Speaker 5: Thing and so those are things.

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02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:57,520
Speaker 13: That we're, seeing is that when you talk about the

2576
02:15:57,600 --> 02:16:00,960
Speaker 13: gentrification or when you talk about these housing, policies it

2577
02:16:01,160 --> 02:16:05,959
Speaker 13: ultimately leads to concentrated, crime and that is leaving victims

2578
02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:08,600
Speaker 13: at the hands of all these. Criminals and that's what

2579
02:16:08,680 --> 02:16:11,240
Speaker 13: we've got to stop. It it's basically a trickle down

2580
02:16:11,320 --> 02:16:12,440
Speaker 13: in confidence from the top.

2581
02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:15,360
Speaker 1: Down, well and based on his comments last, night you

2582
02:16:15,400 --> 02:16:17,080
Speaker 1: Think mary have to Have provoll was the best friend

2583
02:16:17,120 --> 02:16:19,360
Speaker 1: of the police. Department, he's, oh we've worked, together we're

2584
02:16:19,360 --> 02:16:21,360
Speaker 1: we're busy doing, this and that we're going to hire

2585
02:16:21,400 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 1: more police. Officers but you pointed out an excellent, point

2586
02:16:24,120 --> 02:16:27,640
Speaker 1: and he has been very reactive as opposed to proactive

2587
02:16:27,680 --> 02:16:30,480
Speaker 1: when it comes to. Policing what. Happens we Have Sarah

2588
02:16:30,520 --> 02:16:32,840
Speaker 1: herringer's husband stabbed the death in their apartment and over

2589
02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:35,480
Speaker 1: the rhine that through tremendous. Outrage that's when we found

2590
02:16:35,480 --> 02:16:38,040
Speaker 1: out that, no they're not monitoring ankle bracelets out on

2591
02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:40,040
Speaker 1: the World low And. Behold then of course you had

2592
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:42,320
Speaker 1: the Late july beat Down. Holly we all saw the

2593
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:43,920
Speaker 1: video And i've talked to her and had her on the.

2594
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:45,280
Speaker 1: Program you've met her and talked to.

2595
02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:48,120
Speaker 13: Her he was there last, night she was, good And

2596
02:16:48,240 --> 02:16:50,720
Speaker 13: mayor failed to talk with her last. Night we had

2597
02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:55,199
Speaker 13: ample opportunity before and after to speak with multiple individuals

2598
02:16:55,280 --> 02:16:57,280
Speaker 13: in the, room and he did not speak with any

2599
02:16:57,320 --> 02:16:59,120
Speaker 13: of those. Victims die And Buy it on the front

2600
02:16:59,200 --> 02:16:59,800
Speaker 13: row last.

2601
02:16:59,680 --> 02:17:02,240
Speaker 1: Night and we made it to the national stage for that,

2602
02:17:02,520 --> 02:17:06,800
Speaker 1: incident which prompted him to do what implement curfew enforcement

2603
02:17:06,800 --> 02:17:09,480
Speaker 1: at least pay lip service to it in certain, neighborhoods

2604
02:17:09,840 --> 02:17:13,800
Speaker 1: improve policing in certain, neighborhoods and a cry to hire

2605
02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:16,080
Speaker 1: more police. Officers all of this was in reaction to

2606
02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:19,520
Speaker 1: the post national. Headlines what had he done prior to, that,

2607
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:22,480
Speaker 1: though is really What i'm, wondering especially since he hired

2608
02:17:22,480 --> 02:17:26,520
Speaker 1: On Iris rowley as a very well paid consultant who

2609
02:17:26,600 --> 02:17:30,480
Speaker 1: is nothing but an apparently an agitator who actually interferes

2610
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:31,480
Speaker 1: with police doing their.

2611
02:17:31,600 --> 02:17:35,520
Speaker 13: Work one thing they kept saying last night on the

2612
02:17:35,600 --> 02:17:37,800
Speaker 13: other side is That corey doesn't know what he's, doing

2613
02:17:37,840 --> 02:17:40,320
Speaker 13: and that came right back and, said you didn't get

2614
02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:43,160
Speaker 13: the endorsement OF. FOP i got THE. FOP i think

2615
02:17:43,240 --> 02:17:46,120
Speaker 13: they know what they're, doing and then you didn't actually

2616
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:48,360
Speaker 13: get this just came out that he didn't get the

2617
02:17:48,560 --> 02:17:51,640
Speaker 13: endorsement from the fire department, either AND i believe that

2618
02:17:51,720 --> 02:17:53,600
Speaker 13: they know what they're doing as. Well SO i think

2619
02:17:53,680 --> 02:17:56,480
Speaker 13: the ultimate thing is that maybe after four years of

2620
02:17:56,560 --> 02:17:59,400
Speaker 13: being in, office he doesn't know what he's. Doing and

2621
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:01,920
Speaker 13: we've got to bring to the table because not only

2622
02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:06,480
Speaker 13: just these professionals of public, safety but we cannot forget the.

2623
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:10,360
Speaker 13: Victims the people that have been most affected are the

2624
02:18:10,440 --> 02:18:13,760
Speaker 13: people like The Sarah, herringers The Rohmda, wins the mother

2625
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:16,279
Speaker 13: Of Krishanda. Win, oh you got to talk About holly

2626
02:18:16,360 --> 02:18:18,640
Speaker 13: who got Beat she was one of the many people

2627
02:18:18,720 --> 02:18:21,200
Speaker 13: that night that was trying to stop the. Violence she

2628
02:18:21,400 --> 02:18:23,880
Speaker 13: wasn't trying to instigate, it and she gets beat, down

2629
02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:28,840
Speaker 13: and that's unacceptable in a major city In. America and

2630
02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:31,840
Speaker 13: so we can talk about the, stats the policy all we,

2631
02:18:31,959 --> 02:18:35,280
Speaker 13: want but, ultimately if we fail to recognize the victims

2632
02:18:35,800 --> 02:18:38,280
Speaker 13: and the people that have seen the consequences of these,

2633
02:18:38,360 --> 02:18:40,080
Speaker 13: policies then we're forgetting what it's all.

2634
02:18:40,120 --> 02:18:43,320
Speaker 1: About and one final topic that was addressed toward the,

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02:18:43,400 --> 02:18:46,960
Speaker 1: END i guess you're a hell no on increasing the income,

2636
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:49,520
Speaker 1: tax ALTHOUGH i have to have provol welcomes an increase

2637
02:18:49,560 --> 02:18:51,920
Speaker 1: in income tax apparently because he, said need to bring

2638
02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:53,560
Speaker 1: in money if you want to accomplish what we want to.

2639
02:18:53,640 --> 02:18:57,200
Speaker 1: Do another red. Flag if you want to improve the

2640
02:18:57,320 --> 02:19:00,360
Speaker 1: desirability of living in the city Of, cincinnati raising taxes

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02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:02,320
Speaker 1: is not the right way to go from my, Perspective,

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02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:02,800
Speaker 1: corey your.

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02:19:02,879 --> 02:19:07,200
Speaker 13: Take, NOW i had another guest last. Night her name Was,

2644
02:19:07,480 --> 02:19:10,760
Speaker 13: taniqua and she is actually a business, Owner black business

2645
02:19:10,840 --> 02:19:15,040
Speaker 13: owner woman in the city and very. Successful but what

2646
02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:17,200
Speaker 13: she told me was that when she was down on her,

2647
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:20,480
Speaker 13: luck she went through slumlord after slum, lord and she

2648
02:19:20,640 --> 02:19:23,680
Speaker 13: was getting, abused she was getting taken advantage. Of and

2649
02:19:23,800 --> 02:19:26,480
Speaker 13: this is her and her children that were in terrible living,

2650
02:19:26,560 --> 02:19:30,160
Speaker 13: situations and all these slum lords were funded by the. City,

2651
02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:33,720
Speaker 13: well then she buys her own property and she's now a,

2652
02:19:33,800 --> 02:19:36,960
Speaker 13: homeowner and she's a. Renter now a, renter but she's a.

2653
02:19:37,080 --> 02:19:40,600
Speaker 13: Landlord and she's told me that ever since she's done,

2654
02:19:40,640 --> 02:19:43,760
Speaker 13: this she has felt demonized or basically felt like that

2655
02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:47,720
Speaker 13: she's guilty for being successful because she has to pay

2656
02:19:47,760 --> 02:19:51,880
Speaker 13: into more, fees more, taxes more. Everything so that's the

2657
02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:54,720
Speaker 13: system that we're under right, now is that we incentivize.

2658
02:19:54,879 --> 02:19:58,640
Speaker 13: Rendership we incentivize being reliant on the. Government but if

2659
02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:01,240
Speaker 13: you want to have a successful, business if you want

2660
02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:03,039
Speaker 13: to be a property, owner if you want to own

2661
02:20:03,080 --> 02:20:05,480
Speaker 13: a single family home in the, city then you are

2662
02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:06,640
Speaker 13: basically treated.

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02:20:06,320 --> 02:20:06,840
Speaker 5: As the bad.

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02:20:06,920 --> 02:20:09,240
Speaker 13: Guy and what do you think those policies.

2665
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:09,240
Speaker 10: Are going to.

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02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:12,440
Speaker 13: Do the taxes have to come from. Somewhere the taxes

2667
02:20:12,560 --> 02:20:14,760
Speaker 13: have to come from, business they have to come from,

2668
02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:17,879
Speaker 13: property they have to come from. Income and the thing

2669
02:20:18,080 --> 02:20:20,400
Speaker 13: is is that if the taxes aren't coming from that

2670
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:22,640
Speaker 13: or even the earning, text people are going to stop

2671
02:20:22,720 --> 02:20:25,240
Speaker 13: spending their money In. Cincinnati and then all of a,

2672
02:20:25,240 --> 02:20:26,680
Speaker 13: sudden you're going to be left with a lot of

2673
02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:30,400
Speaker 13: people that will rely on the government in, renting but

2674
02:20:30,560 --> 02:20:32,480
Speaker 13: they're not going to be able to step out of,

2675
02:20:32,560 --> 02:20:34,760
Speaker 13: that and you're going to leave the city worse and

2676
02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:38,200
Speaker 13: worse and worse and more of a. Despicit they're going

2677
02:20:38,280 --> 02:20:40,560
Speaker 13: to have less money on the, books and it's just

2678
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:42,480
Speaker 13: not going to do well for the future days Of.

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02:20:42,560 --> 02:20:45,320
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Corey, bowman it sounds me like you have a

2680
02:20:45,360 --> 02:20:47,240
Speaker 1: good recipe for success as mayor of The city Of.

2681
02:20:47,280 --> 02:20:49,200
Speaker 1: Cincinnati it doesn't bother me a wit that you haven't

2682
02:20:49,240 --> 02:20:53,240
Speaker 1: held political office before everybody starts. Somewhere you're surrounded by good.

2683
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:55,080
Speaker 1: PEOPLE i know you've got great ideas for who the

2684
02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:57,840
Speaker 1: city manager might. Be hopefully you get A Steve gooden

2685
02:20:57,879 --> 02:21:00,440
Speaker 1: and At Christopher smithman And Liz keating all with. You

2686
02:21:00,840 --> 02:21:02,800
Speaker 1: there are are, options there are our. Choices you can

2687
02:21:02,879 --> 02:21:05,480
Speaker 1: start voting and you maybe should have already twenty five

2688
02:21:05,560 --> 02:21:08,160
Speaker 1: days and eleven hours. Left Corey, Bowman you're always welcome

2689
02:21:08,200 --> 02:21:10,360
Speaker 1: here on the morning, show continued to wish for success

2690
02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:13,520
Speaker 1: for you and your, campaign and another encouragement my listeners

2691
02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:15,800
Speaker 1: head on over To coreybowman dot com to maybe help you.

2692
02:21:15,879 --> 02:21:18,080
Speaker 1: Out take care of my. Friend have a wonderful. WEEKEND

2693
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:19,520
Speaker 1: i know we'll talk again real, Soon.

2694
02:21:20,480 --> 02:21:22,320
Speaker 13: Brian thank you so, much having an amazing.

2695
02:21:22,400 --> 02:21:23,160
Speaker 5: Weekend thanks.

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02:21:23,240 --> 02:21:25,920
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