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Speaker 1: Please tell Patrick that an old acquaintance of his from

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Speaker 1: Folda has died at ninety one years of age. Amyl

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Speaker 1: jabe Zeppizza JB.

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Speaker 2: That's what's pronounce Jamey pronounced it. There, that's my dad.

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Speaker 2: That's our neighbor. He said, well, here's the kicker on

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Speaker 2: the text. I would have told him myself, but he

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Speaker 2: blocked me on Twitter. Thought he might want to know.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's possible. Yeah, if we all do that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: It's especially since I made my comeback after spenty Yes,

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Speaker 2: spending time in the boring.

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Speaker 3: World of Beef Blue Sky.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not it's not worth it. But

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Speaker 2: Amo was the back door neighbor. He had this beautiful

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Speaker 3: Manniculd.

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Speaker 2: He's he's a chubby he was built like me, a

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Speaker 2: think of stuff. You know, he didn't as I always said,

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Speaker 2: Amals had this manicured it and everything. And my father

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Speaker 2: would big and dig up a little garden, and Amos

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Speaker 2: So my dad would say you go back there and say, Amos, sure,

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Speaker 2: taking you a long time to grow those tomatoes. And

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Speaker 2: then he plant a little plant. Then he go uptown

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Speaker 2: to the garden shop you know where they were growing them. Yes,

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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden he'd have a bigger one,

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Speaker 3: A needle ale, just to get him going. Yes, So

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Speaker 3: you remember him, You definitely remember. Did you know he

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Speaker 2: No, I had not. I didn't realize this. It's a

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Speaker 2: good run. Yeah, he stayed in the same house a house.

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Speaker 3: Is there such a thing?

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Speaker 1: As we were just talking about this at the top

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Speaker 3: We had a nice text from a farmer.

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Speaker 2: When there'd be a big snowstorm and the.

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Speaker 3: Country roads were blocked.

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Speaker 2: A city kids still have to go to school because

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Speaker 3: Of course, sometimes we'd have the big blizzard.

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't see those rubs rooms for four days, and

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Speaker 3: To go to Schoeze. They go to school.

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame nationally for wrestling coach. They won more

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Speaker 2: mats than anybody. But uh, we were having one of

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Speaker 2: those eleven twelve year old sleepovers, you know, and we

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Speaker 3: To do stuff. And I said, from.

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Speaker 2: Now on, these are held in town at our house.

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Speaker 2: That was my one and only.

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Speaker 3: The shores. Huh oh, yeah, you were there.

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Speaker 2: You did the shores, the city there, the lives they

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Speaker 3: Give me if you fit. How many Winter Olympics did

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Speaker 1: You covered three and the three summer, but Calgary was

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Speaker 3: Degrees exactly right.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have enough snow downhill with yes side, But

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Speaker 1: that's right to give me. If you're ranking your for

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Speaker 2: Well, you can't beat Tanya and Nancy. You know that's

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Speaker 2: already come up here. You gotta you gotta go with Tam.

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Speaker 4: And rolling Stubby Street, Stay Stubby d and Stubby.

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Speaker 2: They had an altercation later in life, Peekaboo and him

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Speaker 3: That's because you don't expect it coming.

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Speaker 2: That's the beauty up there, right, nothing story, and then

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Speaker 3: The beauty. Most of the time it's rutie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're writing Nancy and Tanya, yeah, it's great,

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Speaker 2: I remember about Nancy and Tanya though, isn't well her

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Speaker 2: So they had Nancy and Tanya and there was a

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Speaker 2: that big three hundred media people around there waiting and

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Speaker 3: Well, think of that story today. It would break the internet.

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Speaker 2: Alison Janey as Mom is one of the great performances.

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Speaker 2: If that was a app depicture of bomb.

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Speaker 2: And when we were at the Olympics, when we were

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Speaker 3: No, so you you've not watched much this year.

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Speaker 3: I don't love it. You like it. Somebody said you

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Speaker 3: want it over? Well, I want it over.

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Speaker 2: Plus what sense is there to have these NFL NHL

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's so exciting. No, it's not. They can't move.

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Speaker 2: They're stumbling around like you know, and they play and

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Speaker 3: Get it kid done. Yeah, that's fair, I can.

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Speaker 1: One of the great aggravations for me early in my

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Speaker 1: I was, he's not there. I said, we mean he's

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Speaker 3: How does he get away with that if I have

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Speaker 3: to be here every day for five straight days.

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Speaker 2: Ross made me go to a session on Thursday. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't have bothered me a lot. I got teeth got.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get and I got a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah in seventy nine. Yeah, okay, so were you

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Speaker 3: Both, But when is the when is the past?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well Guardian double lifetime, but definitely yeah, but Kramer

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Speaker 2: It used to be when you used to go out

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Speaker 3: And they were throwing these passes and tip ball. They

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Speaker 2: And I wrote a column Saint Paul Dispatch, which but

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Speaker 3: Never made it to Bloomington.

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Speaker 2: You know, nobody twins after whatever starting I wrote, but

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Speaker 1: And then they won that that week my Friday calumn

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Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Yeah, that was pretty good.

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Speaker 4: That's the miracle of the met nineteen eight week, fifteen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was quite a one.

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Speaker 2: And he uh I think uh, I mean the one

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Speaker 3: What isn't quite like it is now.

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Speaker 2: But but so he put me on a plane and

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Speaker 2: I got on a biking plane and Bud turned around

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Speaker 2: I thought of something I wanted to say, and I

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Speaker 3: That was it. We have done that right, Or.

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Speaker 2: Buds still coaching what was the name, I can't one

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Speaker 1: That's that sounds like Bud by the way you maybe

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Speaker 3: That was the week before the week off practice.

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Speaker 1: And he really thinks that that's a really you know

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Speaker 3: Which didn't much.

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Speaker 3: He just I think they had the week every time too.

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Speaker 2: But I you know, I don't think that explains the

442
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Speaker 2: way Frand played against Pittsburgh when it was two to

443
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Speaker 2: nothing at halftime, and uh, you know, fran.

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Speaker 3: Is but a bad arm in one of those games.

445
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Speaker 3: I think that was that's the one.

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Speaker 2: That's the one that they were probably the better team

447
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Speaker 2: because Pittsburgh was not fully formed. Yes yet they but

448
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Speaker 2: you look back at Kansas City and every big upset,

449
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Speaker 2: look at that election, and then we kicked the hell

450
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Speaker 2: out of them on the Sunday of the next season

451
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Speaker 2: they deids go back.

452
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Speaker 3: And look at Sids.

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Speaker 2: Now we showed them, okay, next and then uh and

454
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Speaker 2: they were and they were, you know, they were Miami

455
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Speaker 2: one of the great teams of all time. And then

456
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Speaker 2: Oakland Stevoid always told me, he said, we were we

457
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Speaker 2: were going downhill by then and Oakland was. And so

458
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Speaker 2: do you buy three of the four times they were outclassed?

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Speaker 1: The popular wisdom here is the Hail Mary team was

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Speaker 1: the best team, but ever had That's what you want

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Speaker 1: to hold on to. We if we'd have gone through there,

462
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Speaker 1: we'd have won the Super Bowl? Do you agree with that?

463
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Speaker 1: That that was their best team?

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Speaker 3: Who beat him? That that was that was the you know,

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Speaker 3: Drew Pearson. So yeah, yeah, that was a good team.

466
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Speaker 3: That was a really good team set. You know.

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Speaker 2: The funny thing is the much worse, much worse call,

468
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Speaker 2: and it would have never worked in modern times, is

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Speaker 2: that Drew Pearson was twelve yards out of bound the

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Speaker 2: fifty yard.

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Speaker 3: Last one where what's his name? What?

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Speaker 1: Uh Jankowski? Yeah, he kicked him. Ye still can't make up. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: they agreed, but they kissed them made up later.

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Speaker 3: They had a long hand along.

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Speaker 2: I went and uh, did you're Dick, and everybodies yes,

476
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Speaker 2: and the Polish. I actually was being honored once by

477
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Speaker 2: the Minutemen when they were virtually at stincts as a thing.

478
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Speaker 3: But it was in Mancini's at launching time.

479
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Speaker 2: And this was when Dick had just gotten released from

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Speaker 2: his duties at Williams Arena, you know, and Dick was

481
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Speaker 2: the MC and Dick did about a fifteen minute tribute

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Speaker 2: to Dick and oh, yeah, Rice, he's here, which is

483
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Speaker 2: fine here, but yeah, Dick was Dick. And then I

484
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Speaker 2: told I had to get up and say, Dick told

485
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Speaker 2: this is nineteen ninety five. Maybe Dick told a Lance

486
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Speaker 2: Rental joke. No Lance, you know, Lance exposed himself thirty

487
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Speaker 2: years ago. I said, Dick, we have more recent scandals

488
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Speaker 2: than that to discuss.

489
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Speaker 3: We don't have to go dat once or any You

490
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Speaker 3: have to go back to the Lance runz drug and driving.

491
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Speaker 2: And Tommy going on the radio or Chicago. That's true,

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Speaker 2: He's point three sevens. Yeah, oh mind, that was infamous

493
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Speaker 2: as well. Let's take up our first break. Patrick Royci

494
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Speaker 2: is in studio.

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Speaker 1: For the rest of the hour, we'll get to some

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Speaker 1: current day sports stuff as well.

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Speaker 3: In whatever other direction he'd like to go.

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Speaker 1: In six four six eighty six, Brat Shawn and Brian

499
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Speaker 1: Caffean text line back in just a Bill writes this

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Speaker 1: from Minnetonka, Dan, so much fun to hear you and

501
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Speaker 1: Patrick together. Years ago, when you were both calmnist for

502
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Speaker 1: the strip. I didn't like either of you because you

503
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Speaker 1: were both so negative. After a few years you both

504
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Speaker 1: became my favorites. Either you mellowed or more likely I

505
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Speaker 1: got crappy and cynical I old age too.

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Speaker 3: Either either, it's a delight to hear you. Guys. Are

507
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Speaker 3: you sure that's not my father? My dad? That's what's

508
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Speaker 3: his name? Idea that well, it could be, could be,

509
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Speaker 3: you know, could be a burner account dad.

510
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Speaker 2: You know, I used to walk into Williams Arena and

511
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: I'd be walking in and people say, right, something good, Racie,

512
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Speaker 2: and I'd say, it's not up to me. This, this

513
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Speaker 2: team that is about to take the court will make

514
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Speaker 2: that decision. It's not up to me. Let's see what happens.

515
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Speaker 2: And uh that's always added decide. Oh boy, I'm gonna

516
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Speaker 2: be you know, I'm gonna be negative today.

517
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Speaker 3: Let's see what happened.

518
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Speaker 1: Give me, give me something to be positive about is

519
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Speaker 1: what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: Now. Now here's the deal though.

521
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Speaker 2: The business has changed so much now that dan uh

522
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Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of comical that the first

523
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Speaker 2: time we printed the paper in Des Moines that they

524
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Speaker 2: got snowed out thirty five w I closed up. But

525
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Speaker 2: it's a completely different world now because they basically they

526
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Speaker 2: want columns at one or two in the afternoon and

527
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Speaker 2: then on Saturday they want deadline's like two pm or

528
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Speaker 2: something for everything.

529
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Speaker 1: So do me this favor project in your head, what

530
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Speaker 1: you think the newspaper business is going to look like

531
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Speaker 1: in let's say twenty years.

532
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Speaker 3: It is it literally not gonna exist.

533
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Speaker 2: I wonder when the Washington Post stops writing it's running

534
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Speaker 2: print the sports section and and everything going. I I

535
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: just you know, they don't need us when they got

536
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Speaker 2: Bill from AI to do it.

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Speaker 3: And he won't have deadline problems either. He won't have

538
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Speaker 3: to he won't have to hack it out. He could

539
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Speaker 3: just send it.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's uh, this is probably the last gasp.

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Speaker 2: I would guess it'd be nice to get stick around

542
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Speaker 2: for a while, but it's suddenly it's happened.

543
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: So suddenly is what's uh?

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Speaker 2: What's astounding is the the print edition is no longer

545
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Speaker 2: you know, the thing they care about.

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Speaker 1: So do you buy the theory that one of the

547
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Speaker 1: the biggest blunders that the early in the Internet age

548
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Speaker 1: the newspaper business made was to give away too much,

549
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Speaker 1: so much that once they realize we can't give away

550
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Speaker 1: this much and we're going to make you pay for it.

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Speaker 1: That people said, no, they's more complicated.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's more complicated that because so much

553
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Speaker 2: of it is free. You don't have to you don't

554
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Speaker 2: have to read about the Gopher women's basketball game being

555
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Speaker 2: somewhere else without paying for it.

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Speaker 3: At the start, to remutne I would say, is is

557
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Speaker 3: what the thing?

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Speaker 2: And the other thing I lamented about this today? JG

559
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Speaker 2: justin Garden and who's I call him? Who's I got

560
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Speaker 2: another I got?

561
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Speaker 3: We call them many things. Guardy, tasteless.

562
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Speaker 2: Box did a fine job of slipping in a PJ

563
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Speaker 2: rip in my Nico column and.

564
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Speaker 3: Nobody you didn't even know nobody, as you know, it

565
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Speaker 3: was like the fourth Draft.

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Speaker 2: But I pointed out that Nico held the Ducks to

567
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Speaker 2: only two more points than PJ held the Ducks to

568
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Speaker 2: three months earlier.

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Speaker 3: That is a good line. I missed that one. I

570
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Speaker 3: didn't make him. He was very subtle left it there.

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Speaker 1: I thought, now, where are you telling me what a

572
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Speaker 1: jerk I am?

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Speaker 3: People?

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Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody got to the fifth draft. That was very disappointed.

575
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Speaker 3: That is That's the way people have never understood that.

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Speaker 1: If you really want to wound a satirist is you

577
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Speaker 1: don't get mad at him that's what he wants, or

578
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Speaker 1: get indignant with what.

579
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Speaker 3: The rip? And then you got nowhere to go right.

580
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Speaker 1: You had a good sheep shot in at the end

581
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Speaker 1: of your baseball most recent baseball column, but.

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Speaker 3: He's got away.

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Speaker 2: I was just I saw that now Tom Pole had

584
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Speaker 2: these could be the first baseball games he's ever watched.

585
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Speaker 3: I yell, he's obviously.

586
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Speaker 2: The family trusted him to run the whole business except baseball,

587
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Speaker 2: and they had Joe on baseball and that didn't work out.

588
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: And let's see, I think it's instructive that when Joe

589
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Speaker 2: left baseball and Tom took over and left the big

590
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Speaker 2: business the other job, the.

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Speaker 3: Third brother, Chris got the job and not Joe. So uh.

592
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Speaker 2: But Tom is he's trying to He's he hasn't been

593
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Speaker 2: around baseball enough to know every time the twins have

594
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Speaker 2: told us how close they came to signing somebody. We

595
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Speaker 2: laughed at them and made fun of it. And uh,

596
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Speaker 2: and it was it was so predictable. I think the

597
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Speaker 2: he needs a pr handler, but I don't. I don't

598
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Speaker 2: know if he's the kind of guy that won. He's

599
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Speaker 2: here's the He's not bad. He seems like an okay guy,

600
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Speaker 2: but he's not very familiar with what what might work

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Speaker 2: with the audience. You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the other things you wrote, I think this

603
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Speaker 1: was when the manager or the or the Fauby decision

604
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Speaker 1: was announced, is a belief you have that you're seeing

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Speaker 1: a major turn in general to the way the organization

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Speaker 1: is going to be run.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean better or worse, but different. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you know it's always business. It's always

609
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Speaker 2: been chummingy. Yeah, I think you know, Billy Smith's gonna

610
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Speaker 2: be walking around the locker room free, you know, and

611
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: and uh, you know it's not.

612
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And what's interesting though, is they fired Rocko and replaced

614
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Speaker 2: him with Shelton. They he's the same guy. It's the

615
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Speaker 2: best of friends. Yeah, same guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're claiming early you've heard this before training came

617
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Speaker 1: or at spring training.

618
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Speaker 3: More of a hard edge. We're really being drilled down harder.

619
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Speaker 3: The the the.

620
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Speaker 1: Expectations are more you know, are more laid out in

621
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Speaker 1: a way that they were for I mean, we've heard

622
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Speaker 1: this before. I don't know how true it is, but

623
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Speaker 1: that's what they're claiming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one thing that you know, I'm I'm all

625
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: in on the idea that they're under financing this team.

626
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: But yes, the fact that the payroll is down thirty

627
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Speaker 2: million dollars. Your shortstop is going to be making eight

628
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: hundred thousand and stell that's thirty five million.

629
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Speaker 3: That pretty well takes care of it.

630
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so right, right, they're not necessarily worse there.

631
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Speaker 2: But the you know, instead of instead of making a

632
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Speaker 2: phony run at Framer Valdez, why didn't they give Joe

633
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: Ryan a three or four year contract?

634
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Speaker 3: You know, argue with that.

635
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Speaker 1: I don't know, what's the attendants going to be like this,

636
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Speaker 1: oh terrible, Well they got I wrote this the other day.

637
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Speaker 1: They got seventeen home games in April. I didn't realize that.

638
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Speaker 2: Soil you wrote it thinks that's going to be like

639
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Speaker 2: that's well, yeah, that'll be four thousand a night and yeah,

640
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: two dollars beers before I only tell first pitch.

641
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Speaker 3: Right, Well, I guess that's true. Is technically yeah, I.

642
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Speaker 2: Think the Saints do the same thing over there, they do,

643
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, it's uh uh, it's a low

644
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Speaker 2: point because you know why it's a low point because

645
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: contraction would have been a low point, but the social

646
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Speaker 2: media was not.

647
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Speaker 3: That's you know, they could they could go on Twitter.

648
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: And say, uh, you know, we have just donated one

649
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Speaker 2: billion dollars to the UH fund for post ice Minneapolis,

650
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Speaker 2: and people start making fun of them. You know, they can't.

651
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Speaker 2: They can't, you know they can. They're they're getting killed,

652
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: but they're when you got the combination of Quinn Hughes

653
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Speaker 2: in the wild, still being playing in June, and the prediction, Yes,

654
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Speaker 2: that guy's unbelievable. It's the greatest trade in sports history

655
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: here in the Twins. I'm trying to think of a

656
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: better trade than that one. This guy's great and uh

657
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: then he got the winner last night, right he did.

658
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: And you know when you and then the Timberwolves will

659
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Speaker 2: be around for a couple of rounds.

660
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: So hey, I got a question for.

661
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: Do we I was trying to think of this the

662
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: the disgust when the Twins lose to a bad opponent.

663
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: Do we hold basketball teams to a different standard of

664
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: every time they play poorly, it's because they didn't show

665
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 2: up the Wolf the way I mean we But yeah,

666
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: the Wild play sure poorly.

667
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: That's okay, Twins play poorly.

668
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: We expected, right, I think we I think we don't

669
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: like inc for some reason. We don't see inconsistency is

670
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: genuine the NBA, and it.

671
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: Is, well, yeah, and that is.

672
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: I think some of that is because I get it

673
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: via text every day. There's some people who just flat

674
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: out don't like pro basketball. I don't want to go

675
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: into all the reasons why some of them don't, but

676
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: I think we know in some cases. But it's not

677
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: even that. It's some of it's just well that's what

678
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: I hear. They don't try. And but I got to

679
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: tell you, as a big defender of this league forever,

680
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: it's harder and harder for me to defend this nonsense

681
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: when we have we've we've gone past the point of

682
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: what I would describe as responsible tanking that I think

683
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: we can all accept as it's a trade off. You

684
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: just have to deal with it too. You know we're

685
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: winning the game, so we're going to pull our best

686
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: two players start. That's that, unfortunately, contributes to the notion

687
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: that and the fact that we can't gain abody to

688
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: play hard in the All Star Game.

689
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 3: Those are the combinations of the time.

690
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: We had to have the commissioner come out and congratulate

691
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: the players for it. I because I didn't know who

692
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: the hell was.

693
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: Playing with you. It was too confusing.

694
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: I don't know who's playing who. But uh, you know,

695
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: I just think that we we we we can. It's

696
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: okay to say a basketball player had a bad night

697
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: absolute him yanking or not giving a damn.

698
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: I mean, Jane McDaniels, I love him.

699
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: It would have been nuts if we traded it, if

700
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 2: we traded him in Milwaukee. But uh, he had great

701
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: points and one one for night. It's not because he

702
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: was interested, just because he was bad.

703
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing that contributes to it is you

704
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: know you got the head coach. I'll tell you what,

705
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: Let's stay on schedule. We need a break and we'll

706
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: stay with the Wolves. And I want to get to

707
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: a couple of other current sports items as well. Patrick

708
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: ROYSI in studio for the hour back in a minute.

709
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Doctor Mahan's inbox will be open today, so Guards, he's

710
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: still looking for some submissions. JG at Cafe dot com

711
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: real Quick with JG.

712
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: Gunn nine of the time doing women's basketball games and

713
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: other stuff.

714
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: I never know who.

715
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: The guy you have in here with you, Brett Blakemore,

716
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: who's the back Brack Lake big big Packers fans.

717
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: Seems like he's really into sports. He's he's a big

718
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: hockey guy.

719
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: Oh hockey guys, to the point where he agitates Russo

720
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: Nicoletti fall Mess.

721
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: He's a less contrarian on hockey. Yeah, he gets them

722
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: all going, yeah, because.

723
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 2: He's nothing to be Onrea. Well the Gophers Moso is

724
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: getting killed. Yeah, it's not good right now, but uh

725
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: you know that's that's not good. But nothing to be

726
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: upset about with her.

727
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: Well here's the here's the kicker on Guards. They're obviously

728
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: in the tournament this year, so yeah, I mean, you know,

729
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: depending on how where.

730
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: They go, they'll get a host the first second round,

731
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: aren't they.

732
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: That's the hope, right, he went Sunday, I think that

733
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 4: kind of cements they should be in that position.

734
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: She kind of predicted this because they had to change

735
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: the schedule at Williams Arena for the high school tournament

736
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: a tournament because she wanted those dates for the women's.

737
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: Point And now she looks like she knew what she

738
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: was talking about.

739
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: Yes, she also didn't love going to Springfield, Missouri for

740
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 4: the second round of the dub I t last year.

741
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: Or Toledo, Ohio for round one. He loved it.

742
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: I can't imagine ever going back, but it was nice

743
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: to see once. One other thing on the Wolves you

744
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: got gotta remember too. You got the the head coach

745
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 4: talking about the foul moods that several are mood swings

746
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 4: that our players have. Yeah, Johnny Krazinski saying it's the

747
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 4: moodiest team he's ever created.

748
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: So some of it is that.

749
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: In fact, we talked to you know, Mike Connley, who's

750
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: back again, and he basically said, I'm in charge of

751
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: movie a part of my job.

752
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm kind of in charge of that. What are we

753
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 3: going to do at quarterback?

754
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: What is the Roycy advice the folks at TCO Performance

755
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: Center going into training camp this this coming here, God.

756
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 3: Don't bring back Kirk that. I can't stand that fawning.

757
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: But that would be my prediction, they're going to be

758
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: somebody back and they have to promise him he's going

759
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: to start. They're certainly going to have to promise him

760
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: he's got a chance. Number one when it's.

761
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: And are you where are you on McCarthy? Do you

762
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: think he's a lost cause or do you think you

763
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: got to hang with it?

764
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: What do you think? I think that.

765
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: He's got to shut up and uh and and you know,

766
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: not tell us about nine and all.

767
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: That's just to change his ends to profile every fifteen minutes.

768
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: Because you know, once the pressure was off completely down,

769
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: he wasn't quite that terrible.

770
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 3: But you just answered it page me. Uh.

771
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 2: He was playing with the best defense in the country,

772
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: in the best running game in the country. So whenever

773
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: he rolled out there's to throw a pass, there were

774
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: nobody there to, you know, to go chase him. But

775
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: I'd say it's thirty seventy against it. But uh, I,

776
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what they were doing last year really

777
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: in retrospect, I think they spend all that money and

778
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: then and then say this kid is going to be

779
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: the quarterback.

780
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: But I'd like to go back and find out. Patrick.

781
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: I got to like you go back and fill and

782
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: find all those people after the fourth quarter of the

783
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 2: opener who said.

784
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: We got our quarterback left the bar they did. That

785
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: was a little quick for us. Yeah, Quezy fall gus

786
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: or legitimately.

787
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: I think when you look at the numbers on the draft,

788
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: it's probably fairly legitimate defense. But but to pretend like

789
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: he's the guy who said draft J. J. McCarthy is

790
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: crappy Connell, that's the that's thee Oh. Conain Flores probably

791
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: called his floor, he's probably called his shots and to

792
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of you know what his draft's

793
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: first choice. It was if it was him Lewis sin

794
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: instead of taking Hamilton.

795
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: But he was right there. That was that continues. I

796
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: was idiotic, but.

797
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: Uh, the public was all in on getting rid of

798
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: him because they didn't want to blame O'Connell.

799
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: That didn't you get that? A lot of it is that.

800
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, although I think that's gonna shift because

801
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: now Quay's gone and I think.

802
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: I didn't cover him.

803
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: I don't go out there much because we got eighteen

804
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: guys shovering the bakings. But he's a sensitive fellow. Yes,

805
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: the word is that. The word is that I'm like

806
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: Zim will just yell at something. But here's my here's

807
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: what upsets me. O'Connell didn't have a chance to be

808
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: covered by the tom bomb Chris Thomason. If Chris Thomason

809
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: had been here to throw some tom bombs, had O'Connell,

810
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: it would have been, it would have I would have

811
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: paid a hundred but said, day, here you go, Chris,

812
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: tom bomb, will you It was the greatest questions ever

813
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: Zim sim under his breath, Zim breath and day oh

814
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: not here again?

815
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: So where is he now? And how is that relationship?

816
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: Is it Testy?

817
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he got on that what he's

818
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: on that Woody page, all that publications out there, he

819
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: got on with Woody and uh so he's that's I

820
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: don't know what it is. It's a kind of an alternate.

821
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: It's aka electronic. I lost track of sports newspaper, I think,

822
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: and whatever it is. But that's where he went. He

823
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: was the greatest question to answer. You know, they say

824
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 2: you beat your wife, you know, I mean right that bad?

825
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be, it would be. It would have

826
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 3: made for some interesting well.

827
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: Because the thing with koc is it's tense, but he

828
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: does a pretty good job of hiding that you hear

829
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: about it behind the scenes, that there have been some

830
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: scenes but not of the public.

831
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 3: The public.

832
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite I was getting somebody to tell my

833
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: I got to tell my favorite story again. Jim Cable,

834
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: the late great Kim Cable tragedy. But he's become a columnist.

835
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: It's the Saint Paul paper in his and he was

836
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: really good at going to interview stuff. And he bro

837
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: you got a big interview from Isaiah and then you know,

838
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: all New Zada and your favorite coach is uh Bill Blair,

839
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: Bill Blair.

840
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: Bill Blair. Opening night, we're doing capes.

841
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: We're out there doing the on the court thing and

842
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: uh and he said to Bill Blair this, you know,

843
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: Isaiah Rider says he's a new man and he's doing

844
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: it and opening night, Uh, he get fired. Twenty games later.

845
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: Bill Blair looks at capes and says, Isaiah Rider is

846
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: a piece of.

847
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: I don't remember that, yes right there, and there doesn't

848
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: shock and I think it says one thing.

849
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: Bill Blair was honest, and he knew he wasn't gonna

850
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: last long because he liberated because uh, Kevin, Kevin mcguil's

851
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: best Fred at that time was now in the in

852
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: the on the on.

853
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: The staff, that's exactly it.

854
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the the Blair story I tell is a

855
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: more apocryphal.

856
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 3: I said on when it came to writer.

857
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: The stories were that everyone that that he might be

858
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: walking down downtown Minneapolis and he and that Blair would

859
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: stop people that he didn't even know to say, by

860
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: the way, do you know what I think of Isaiah

861
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: and Jared j Ryder? And they'd say no, I really

862
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: don't care and still tell them the exact same thing. Yeah,

863
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: what a great coach is still with us. It's a

864
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: great question. I have not talked to Bill Blair in years. Well,

865
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: I just I haven't seen any You know, when he left,

866
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: he got very bitter and he blamed He blamed a

867
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: lot of us that didn't really have anything to do

868
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: with it, even though you know, I'd had a good

869
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: relationship with him.

870
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: But you know that's yeah, think about it.

871
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: Well, the anniversary of the famous Latner moment going around

872
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: the wolves, you know, locker room going loser, loser, loser

873
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: and then at his name plate winner. It's one of

874
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: the great moments in Minnesota Timberwolve's history.

875
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: Yes it is, and uh, later in life. I've had

876
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: people tell me that, yeah, Laterner is not that bad

877
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: a guy. But man, well he has softened because we

878
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: had him on. He used to come back here to

879
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 2: fish with salmons. Really well, they became best buddies.

880
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: There're still buddies.

881
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: He came in on a Sunday morning to be on

882
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: the show one of his fishing.

883
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: Weekends, and he was a charmer. He couldn't have been

884
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: more than more of more than you know, Dan Patrick,

885
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: he gets soft nothing now.

886
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 4: He and Mace or Buddies later buddies all the guys,

887
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: by the way, last coach in two thousand and one.

888
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 3: He's eighty three years old. He is a lot. He's okay.

889
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: Mace should send you guys a check for five hundred

890
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: every month.

891
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: He doesn't believe it.

892
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: What you've done to his image is unbelievable. He's now

893
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: he's now going boo to good old Mace. You know

894
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: who else says that Louis, But he never believe Louis

895
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: was never a bad guy.

896
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying Louis says to say it has the

897
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: same observation to Mace that Mace, your image has been

898
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: transformed on that show and of course Mace doesn't want

899
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: to listen to any any of it.

900
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: No, Sadly, even I get along with Mace. Now that's

901
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: that's you know. I because my buddy Joe Driscoll, who

902
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: died town ball guy painted his house. He said, he said,

903
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: I got I got Driscoll paint in my house.

904
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: I said, okay, so you went cheap then, But what is.

905
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: Your proudest when you talk about the sort of stories

906
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: you write that aren't about big sports or big things,

907
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: is it town ball?

908
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: What is the one that you sort of developed.

909
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 2: I'm getting away of from it a little bit because

910
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: a lot of people are doing it. But yeah, I

911
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: you know, go out there twenty years ago and writing

912
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: about the country boys, and you know I come from that,

913
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: but Sterns County and that you go up to Sterens

914
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: County now and you know, Sterns County to vote for

915
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: Eugene McCarthy about a seventy five ratio.

916
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: How about now? Now? Now it's uh, they gotta be Yeah.

917
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: I saw a big sign yesterday nearby God blessed Trump, and.

918
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: There was the size of that window changed.

919
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: So that guy he wasn't hiding his favorite dism. I'll

920
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: say that I did.

921
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: I tell you the one of the prop most my

922
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: most prized possessions I have is a framed letter that

923
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: Eugene McCarthy wrote to Paul Newman and his wife Joanne Woodwards,

924
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: thanking them for their support as he's preparing to go

925
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: to Chicago for the sixty eighth Conventional.

926
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: I did it. It was an auction.

927
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: The Newman family is an auction, and amazingly.

928
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: I want it.

929
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: I you would appreciate it. A lot of the youngsters wouldn't,

930
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: but it's tremendous.

931
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: He played baseball in Watkins and was very good, and

932
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 2: they had an old timers game in the seventies. Man

933
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: and he was there, and I was up there and

934
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: talked to him and did it.

935
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: Was friendly because he completed by then he was he

936
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: was he was friendly, but he was. Yeah.

937
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: I'd have to try to find that. But I went

938
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: up there for the I think the Dispatch back then

939
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: and wrote a rote a column on Eugene being man.

940
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: We and uh, we didn't have the great political well

941
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: we did have the great political divide in the World War.

942
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 3: In the sixties sixties.

943
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was. He was a hell of a

944
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: baseball player. I didn't realize Hoafkins, Minnesota.

945
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's well he you know a lot of people

946
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: forget he opened the door on Vietnam war stuff. And

947
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: then and then Bobby Kennedy jumped in after McCarthy showed

948
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: the LBJ vulnerability on the issue.

949
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, he ended the Vietnam Yeah.

950
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: Basically, all right, my sources say, you just signed a

951
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: new five year contract to only.

952
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: Two an option, have an option. I you know, here's

953
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: the deal.

954
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 2: If we make it two years, and you know I

955
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: can do it at the paper, it's just the other thing.

956
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: But uh, that will take us to the fiftieth year

957
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: of the Turkey of the Year.

958
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: That's what I remember you saying, we can you know,

959
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: there's always another anniversary coming up that you could find

960
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: to keep it calling.

961
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: It's my right, guys, ended about three times and it

962
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: keeps coming back.

963
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: Guards you tell the story again on the last time

964
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: original retiregal retirement.

965
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty sixteen Ryder Cup Hazel Team Pat. There's a

966
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 4: tweet somewhere that says that will be my final column. Right,

967
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 4: you're gonna write the next Rider Cup, not.

968
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: The one coming up. You're gonna write the third time.

969
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: I tell people say, you promise you're going to retire,

970
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: and the writer guy said, I didn't say which one?

971
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: You know? I don't think.

972
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: I don't think. When is it here twenty nine? I

973
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 4: think because the COVID they flipped a year, maybe maybe

974
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: it's maybe have to.

975
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: Get one more too. How's the knee terrific? After rehab?

976
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: You're there? Yes?

977
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 2: I went out and saw doctor Boyd and after five

978
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: weeks and said, for three weeks I called you a

979
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 2: filthy name every day. And he says, that's the reason

980
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't see patients until five weeks, because all of

981
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: a sudden it just started feeling better.

982
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: And it's good.

983
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: But this one here, the old lefty, you're gonna keep

984
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: hats with me telling him, and it's not quite as bad.

985
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 3: On you have to do hips. They might talk about

986
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: hips hips.

987
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: Louie's got hips easier, hipster easier, he said, Louie's got

988
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: at least one need. Does he have a hip too?

989
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: I want to say he's got at least one hip

990
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: in me? And maybe how many a brain?

991
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: I don't How much do America's insurance companies hate knee

992
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 2: replacements or three? Everybody over seventy five has one. They're

993
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: all getting one. Yeah, it's it can't be cheap.

994
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: I can't believe what do you got called? So are

995
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: you how many days are a week to you? Right now?

996
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: Three?

997
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: Three? That's why I thought, okay, so what's the next one?

998
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: Is that in the books yet?

999
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: I haven't written at Jet, but I went up to

1000
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: Saint Cloud and I'm right about the Saint Cloud basketball

1001
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: team winning its first title since two thousand and three,

1002
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: and struggling is a university up there?

1003
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: Really?

1004
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: Hey, they were playing first place game against Concordia last

1005
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: night and official attendance was four hundred and fifty four.

1006
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's that's that's too bad. Eighty is a

1007
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: nice scale too, So that's coming up. Yeah, I'm you know,

1008
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: you know age, what has done to me is my

1009
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: procrastination is even worse.

1010
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: And then it takes me three hours to write one

1011
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: instead of an hour and a half. So are you

1012
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 3: kidding me?

1013
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 2: Oh?

1014
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 3: It takes me forever to write it.

1015
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: But that's a shock with those of us who sat

1016
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: next to you in the press box.

1017
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: But what the hell else do I gotta do? Anyways?

1018
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1019
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's you know, that's I mean, there's nothing

1020
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: to do. That's the other way to look at it.

1021
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: For sure.

1022
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 2: Can't play golf anymore. Last time I tried to play,

1023
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: I you know, couldn't hit it out of the room.

1024
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: How about bowling club? I quit bowling the same time

1025
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: I drinking. That's a long time ago. Were you ever

1026
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 3: a curler in your drinking this?

1027
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 2: No? No, but I love curly It's fun a lot, Shirley. Yes, yes,

1028
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: and I love the fact that if you touch that.

1029
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, people lose their minds. Yeah, it's crazy. Thank you

1030
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: for coming in, my friend. We're always good and we

1031
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: hope to do it again soon. Thank you, Patrick Rosie

1032
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: in studio Doctor Dean's inbox. Later top five will include

1033
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm assuming some Olympic stuff.

1034
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: Golden gold.

1035
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: We got to talk about it, big gold medal,