1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Doctor Schneider. Always great to catch up with you, especially 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: on a victory Monday. 3 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: How are you, sir, Oh, I'm doing great. I would 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: second that Let's go. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Let's go. Hey, speaking of was fantastic to see Alex 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Singleton and Patser Tan out there in the field last night, Wasn't. 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: That was amazing? You know, kind of different stories obviously, 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: but just to view with all the drama and thinking 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: about life and death and when finding out you have cancer, 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: and for Alex to come out play so great, play 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: all the snaps he did. And of course, you know, 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: for me, I looked at the very last play that game, 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: it was him coming in blitzing shooting that gap that 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: opened it up for Benito. I just thought that was 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: kind of a magical play. 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: Hey, Doc, I would ask you a quick question because 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: earlier in the season we saw John Mattier from Oklahoma 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: deal with injury to his hand. He came back to 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: early and yesterday justin Herbert injured his hand and he's 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: supposed to have, yeah, surgery on his left hand. How 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: does that kind of hinder a quarterback's ability to just 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: go out there and play when he's just had surgery 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: on their hand, Nick. 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: It's such a good question, you know. So for if 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: you look at Herbert, the fact that he broke that, 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be like the third or 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: fourth metacarpal bone in his hand. So it was one 28 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: of those middle long bones in the back of the hand, 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: which is why they played it right away. In fact, 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: I suspect he's already had surgery by now. It's the 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 2: first concern. It always is will the skin heal well? 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: And you don't want it to get infected, so he'll 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: wear a special glove over that, and I suspect he'll 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: he'll be able to make the game. But you know, Mattie, 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: I actually watched that first game and he came back 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: and he looked unsure of himself. He wasn't handling the 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: ball well. I think he put the ball on the 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 2: ground early on in that game. So definitely, your grip 39 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: can be affected. Sometimes even after fixing that, then you'll 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: get a little numbing shot right before the game, which 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: is pooh pood a little bit these days. But it's 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: funny how it just seems so nonchalant now to have 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: surgery and a few days later playing a game. 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm on ROSSI Brown left the game very early on Thanksgiving. 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: It's being reported as a lowinkle spring. We talk a 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: lot about high ankle sprains and how severe those are, 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: but there's all sorts of reports that he might try 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: to play a week after suffering a low ankle spring. 49 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: Is that possible. 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm buying the fact that it's a 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: low ankle sprain. To look at the mechanism. He was 52 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: engaged in that block and someone rolled up on him 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: on the right hand side. It's possible. When you get 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: rolled up like that, all you've torn is the deltoid 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: ligaments on the inside part of your ankles. So you know, 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: those ligaments are really broad and thick, their triangular shape, 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 2: which is why it is called from deltoid and it's 58 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: delta like deltoid. But if you keep having the force 59 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: and it keeps twisting your angle like that, that's how 60 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: the forest goes up your leg and tears the ligaments up. 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: You know, when he walked off the field after sustaining 62 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: that injury, he was walking okay, I thought, which most guys, 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: if you have a bona fide high angle spray, it's 64 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: like you can't take a step. Nick I don't know 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: if you ever had a high angle spray, but it's 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: like you can't take a single step. 67 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had. 68 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: One before and it feels as though your leg is 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 3: broken in some way, even though it's not. It's really 70 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: painful and it's hard to put pressure on it. But 71 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones running back for the Minnesota Vikings, and the 72 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: game it gets to Seattle Seahawks, he did something to 73 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: his shoulder where he had to exit. From a doctor's standpoint, 74 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: I mean, what would you have to do to help 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: that player play, especially at the running back position, which 76 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: is a very physical position. What would need to be 77 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: done in order for Aaron Jones to get back on 78 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: the field. 79 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: Very much depends. Is it in the Glenning humoral joint? 80 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: That is to say, the shoulder joint itself. The people 81 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: will tear a l Abraham and now their shoulders unstable, 82 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: more of it than not. When a running back does that, 83 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: it's like Emmitt Smith where it's the ac joint like 84 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield had on his left shoulder. But it's a 85 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: different thing altogether if it's your non throwing shoulder AC 86 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: joint in a quarterback versus Jones where he knows the 87 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: very next play he's going to get a handoff and 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: maybe has to go drop his shoulder. It's almost like 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: you can't go, and especially if you've got a stinger 90 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: or a burner. With that, I'm wondering if it was 91 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: a stinger a burner that Jones had, if you're like 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: immediately ruled out, it makes me wonder was he neurologically 93 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: intact or was he having enough symptoms where he felt 94 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: like I just can't even go. 95 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: Gotcha, Doctor Snyder, always great. We will check in with 96 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: you next week. 97 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: All right, thanks guy, I appreciate it. 98 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: Doctor Schnyder Bronson by Ortho Colorado Hospital part of Common 99 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Spirit Health. Go to Orthoclorado dot org. We had a 100 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: lot of text responding to the topic. We are on 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: a moment ago about more decisive wins. We will get 102 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: into that, and I think I think we have some 103 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: dueling audio that we get to get to coming up next.