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Speaker 3: I've explained many times why those are four very important

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Speaker 3: be wrong about the subject none. There's always a chance

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Speaker 3: on almost everything, but not this one. I guaranteed it,

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Speaker 3: not an option. I have been waiting for this day

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Speaker 3: to come, and as I.

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Speaker 2: Say, it was inevitable.

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Speaker 3: Some members of the Milwaukee City Council are now admitting

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Speaker 3: that the trolley is a flop and that we need

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Speaker 3: to get rid of it now. I said some we're

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Speaker 3: not in a majority point yet in the mayor. It's

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Speaker 3: not like they're gonna take it. They're gonna shut this

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Speaker 3: thing down, but reality is sinking in. I need to

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Speaker 3: give the background for some of you that aren't from Milwaukee,

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Speaker 3: or perhaps are new here. For about as long as

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Speaker 3: I've been doing a program in Milwaukee, and it started

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Speaker 3: in the radio in nineteen eighty nine, I have been

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Speaker 3: railing so clever, railing against all proposals to do any

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Speaker 3: type of transit that's on rail. It's all so stupid.

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Speaker 3: The biggest problem, of course with it is we have

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Speaker 3: roads everywhere, but the only ways, the only way that

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Speaker 3: you can run something on rail is where you put

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Speaker 3: tracks just in and of itself. That defeats any argument

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Speaker 3: for any of these real things. Nonetheless, for years and

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Speaker 3: years and years, two Milwaukee mayors one became obsessed with it.

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Speaker 3: They came up with this notion. First they called it

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Speaker 3: The reason I call it a trolley is for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: thus I continue to call it the trolley. All right,

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Speaker 3: For years we stopped the thing, and then finally they

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Speaker 3: a position to use it. Basic common sense. They didn't listen.

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Speaker 3: They ripped up these streets and they put in this loop.

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Speaker 3: It took them forever to complete the second leg of

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Speaker 3: Immediately upon starting it, they realized nobody was going to

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Speaker 3: you they wouldn't. They never even bothered to put fair

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Speaker 3: some basic math. If it's free, there's no revenue. Obviously

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Speaker 3: hemorrhaging sieve forever. The only way to continue functioning it

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Speaker 3: Or here was the brainstorm they came up with, we'll

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Speaker 3: There are advertising signs on the side of a bus.

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Speaker 3: How much can you get for putting a sign on

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Speaker 3: the side of this stupid trolley that's running around. I

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Speaker 3: suspect not much. Initially, Potawatami said, we're making so much

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Speaker 3: pay out at ninety one percent, that we'll come up

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Speaker 3: with the money for this. But then even they said,

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Speaker 3: you gotta be kidding. Now, one of the arguments that

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Speaker 3: downtown east of the river. Well, kind of, there's a

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Speaker 3: small portion near the post office where it starts, where

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Speaker 3: the intermodal station is, that's over there, but the overwhelming

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Speaker 3: majority of the road is east of the river. That

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Speaker 3: why would any other aldermen in any other part of

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Speaker 3: the city support this. The neighborhoods in Milwaukee are eroding, going.

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Speaker 2: To hell, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Why are they spending all of this money to run

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Speaker 3: I asked, all right, well, years have gone by. Almost

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Speaker 3: nobody rides the trolley. Every now and then you'll get

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Speaker 3: something going on where some people will jump on it

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Speaker 2: But by and large it's empt and you see.

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Speaker 3: The trains running around very very very slowly. They screw

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Speaker 3: all of the lights have to go red in all

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Speaker 3: The avert speed of the trolley is minus two miles

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Speaker 3: per hour? Is that physically impossive? Physically possible? I suspect

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Speaker 3: it isn't. Could something be a negative speed, Well, it'd

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Speaker 3: have to be going in reverse.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if you could were.

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Speaker 3: Counting the forward progress of something and you put it

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Speaker 2: It goes very slowly. So now we have jas online

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Speaker 2: without any sense. See.

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Speaker 3: Part of the problem is you have these reporters who

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Speaker 3: write these stories. All reporters now seem to be in

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Speaker 3: a live in a city for the for two years

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Speaker 3: prior just for two years, so they never know any

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Speaker 3: of the background of the history. I, on the other hand,

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Speaker 3: have the advantage of having been here since eighteen twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Who is the president in eighteen twenty I actually know.

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Speaker 3: I think I know who won, but that would mean

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Speaker 3: John Quincy Adams who won in eighteen twenty four.

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Speaker 2: You shake your head. You have no clue.

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Speaker 3: You think we were still under the rule of King

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Speaker 2: Monroe was the president. If I'm not isn't this great?

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Speaker 3: Beck?

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Speaker 2: When we were doing a radio show.

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Speaker 3: Nine million people would be calling you up and telling

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Speaker 3: you an almost all with brawing on answers. Now that

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Speaker 3: eleven thirty at night when they're listening to the thing,

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Speaker 3: or worse yet, just anyway. The reporter's name is Vanessa Swales.

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Speaker 3: Well that's her name. Some here, I'll read the headline. First,

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Speaker 3: Milwaukee officials clash over maintaining downtown street car. I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: we go finally some of the ultimate and of course

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Speaker 3: are the ones who aren't from downtown as they take

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Speaker 3: a look at the city budget or wondering why we're

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Speaker 3: putting a fortune to keep this thing running. Here's the

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Speaker 3: first thing. There's no prospect for federal funds. Do you

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Speaker 3: know why there's no prospect for federal funds?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, there's no prospect for federal funds. It's

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Speaker 3: very very simple. It's a five letter t R U,

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Speaker 3: M P. Trump's not gonna give you any more money

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Speaker 3: to run a trolley around more? Are they gonna give

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Speaker 3: them any more money any more federal funds to try

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Speaker 3: out and hope that Mamdani or AOC or somebody gets

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Speaker 3: more outside money. And the thing is I say, costs

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Speaker 3: unionized employees that operate the thing. And here they are

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Speaker 3: with all these other you know, city governments always have

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Speaker 3: tight budgets because there's all this stuff that they.

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Speaker 2: Want to spend money on.

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Speaker 3: And actually now some pressure to spend at least a

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Speaker 3: little money on our understaffed police department. So you've got

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Speaker 3: some alderman looking at it, this thing, why are we

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Speaker 3: doing this? Okay, even if it might have been a

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Speaker 3: to think that it would work, it's not working. Alderman

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Speaker 3: Scott Spiker, he represents the southeast side. By the way,

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Speaker 3: there are no conservatives on the Milwaukee Common Council. There

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Speaker 3: are just some that are less insanely radical than others,

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Speaker 3: and then there are some that are liberal but pragmatic

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Speaker 3: the southeast corner. For those been around for a while,

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Speaker 3: this is the old Bob Anderson area and it was

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Speaker 3: one time conservative. But there's no part of the City

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Speaker 3: of Milwaukee this conservative anywhere. But that's the part that

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Speaker 3: Spiker represents, and he has the advantage of not having

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Speaker 3: been on the council when they approve this thing in

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Speaker 3: the first place. You have a loop that goes two

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Speaker 3: miles locked in and no prospect for ex at Alderman

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Speaker 3: Scott Spiker told budget officials, by the way, I have

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Speaker 3: been pointing this out for fifteen years, the.

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Speaker 2: Exact same sentence that he offered.

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Speaker 3: It would just make that lives or lefties a lot

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Speaker 3: easier if they would simply listen to me in the

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Speaker 3: first place. They're incapable of doing that, however, which is

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Speaker 3: why the I told you so that I started the

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand what he means by that, You don't

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Speaker 2: I would think you would. You you should. You should know.

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Speaker 3: There's two groups of people that ride on this thing,

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Speaker 2: It was one of the two.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, street people will sit on there and

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Speaker 3: They well, that's so that's the point that Spiker's saying,

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Speaker 2: Well healed.

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Speaker 3: He has railed against the city's free transportation option, especially

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Speaker 3: expected to have listen to this number a six point

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Speaker 2: Costs for next year. Let's round it up seven million

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Speaker 3: According to Mayor Cavalier Johnson's post twenty twenty six budget,

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Speaker 3: million dollars we don't plan to put forward libraries, four

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Speaker 2: When you get a.

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Speaker 3: Federal grand for transportation project, you have to continue to

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Speaker 2: It was a reach.

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Speaker 3: But the point that they make is, look, if we

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Speaker 3: that's always been the defense for any transit project that

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Speaker 3: because it still doesn't go anywhere, And it becomes an

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Speaker 3: Now let's go to Wauka Shaw. There is an income

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Speaker 3: First of all, the guy's name is Rico Camacho. He

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Speaker 2: It sounds like an athlete's name, doesn't it. It does.

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Speaker 3: Now some will say, Oh, you're just saying that because

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Speaker 3: it's a Latino sounding name. No, there's all sorts of

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Speaker 3: But anyway, I don't think he is. I just think

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Speaker 3: Paul's never able to do this. He's never able to

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Speaker 3: What do you think, he concludes, You have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you as Ice.

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Speaker 3: He posts on Facebook that Ice is swarming downtown walk

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Speaker 2: He's an alderman. Let's start with.

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Speaker 3: If it was Ice, why is a member of a

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Speaker 2: Warning people about it. But that point is literally neither

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Speaker 3: This idiot sees a bunch of people running around in

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I saw somebody walking up in a

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Speaker 3: It gets even better. They weren't even cops. It was

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Speaker 3: it actually gets a little weird. He actually at one

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Speaker 3: He was part of Homelandecurity. But he now owns a

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Speaker 2: It's all it was. They were just doing a drill.

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Speaker 3: Mike guess is that there isn't a single person in

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Speaker 2: You can imagine.

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Speaker 3: Alderman apologizes after false ICE alert in downtown Waka Shaw.

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Speaker 3: So Camacho is no longer a teacher at Catholic Memorial

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Speaker 3: I find quite interesting. The city attorney in Waukeshaw. That's

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Speaker 3: The city attorney's an elected position. His name is Brian Running. First,

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Speaker 3: he told no, he said no officials in Waukeshaw should

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Speaker 2: And he then claimed that.

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Speaker 3: These comments are not subject to the state open records law.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure some people are inquiring about what other posts

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Speaker 2: Well, I would think any.

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Speaker 3: Elected official who expresses an opinion, it's a personal opinion.

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Speaker 3: He's an alderman of wauk a Shaw and he was

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Speaker 3: And the only way that this this is, you know,

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Speaker 2: Ice is just on his head.

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Speaker 3: Remember after nine to eleven, and you know they said

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Speaker 2: Of the bomb and so on. This is just on

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Speaker 3: He sees somebody in a uniform run it could have

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Speaker 2: So this immediately thinks the ice Ice.

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Speaker 3: Next during the no King's rally in Chicago over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: There was way less effort to identify him than to

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Speaker 3: identify the poor woman from Milwaukee who got on the

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Speaker 3: Dodger fan and said, somebody call ICE after he was

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Speaker 3: harassing them. But he's been identified. His name is Mois's

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Speaker 3: Bernald Puentes, and he actually works at Wilbur Wright College,

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Speaker 3: which is a community college in Chicago. So far as

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Speaker 3: we can tell, he has not been fired, which I

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Speaker 3: guess means that if you retort to someone who is

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Speaker 3: Latino who is harassing you and making a jackass out

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Speaker 3: of himself, somebody call ICE, that that is a fireable offense.

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Speaker 3: But if you actually say you should murder Ice, that

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Speaker 3: that is not a fireable offense. You see the standards

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Speaker 3: that are at work here, and why I have some

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Speaker 3: sense of empathy, if not sympathy for the woman who

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Speaker 3: lost her cool and ended up getting canned from a

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Speaker 3: big time job. She was an associate counsel at Manpower

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Speaker 3: for making hurts dam And in the meantime you can

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Speaker 3: run around and say, yeah, I guys to kill people

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Speaker 3: who work for ICE and apparently do that without any

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Speaker 3: consequence whatsoever. Let me move to this story, and this

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Speaker 3: is one of these stories that I've alluded to a

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Speaker 3: couple of times in I always have a sense when

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Speaker 3: things aren't sinking into people. I don't know why that is,

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Speaker 3: but I just have this. Then I look at Paul,

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Speaker 3: and then I think it's sinking into him. But then

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're the best example of whether

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Speaker 3: or not something some kid do. Obamacare is going to

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Speaker 3: go broke at the end of the year. I've covered

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Speaker 3: this a couple of times, going to cover it again

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Speaker 3: very briefly. The reason it's going to go broke and

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Speaker 3: there are going to have to be massive increases in

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Speaker 3: premiums is when Obamacare was created and then during Biden's

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Speaker 3: administration with COVID. During those two periods of time, massive

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Speaker 3: subsidies by the government were put in place to lower

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Speaker 3: the costs of the premiums for people that were covered

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Speaker 3: under Obamacare, otherwise known as the Affordable Care Act. In

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Speaker 3: both cases, they had an expiration date. The original subsidy

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Speaker 3: expired early in Biden and the Democrats, when they controlled

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Speaker 3: the Congress in Biden's first year extended those subsidies die

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Speaker 3: at the end of the year, meaning the people who

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Speaker 3: are covered under Obamacare are going to see monster increases

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Speaker 3: in their premium unless the Congress and President extend the subsidies. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is an opportunity to say I told you so,

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Speaker 3: but rually not my point here For the people who

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Speaker 3: argue that Obamacare the math never added up and it

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Speaker 3: would always need massive subsidies, despite what Obama said when

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Speaker 3: this came in that it would be a break even proposition,

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Speaker 3: it obviously isn't, and it requires these subsidies or the

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Speaker 3: cause of Obamacare, which is already somewhat high, explodes. Who

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Speaker 3: created Obamacare? This is very important. I'm not sure you

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Speaker 3: all remember Obamacare was passed in I believe fourteen. Who

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Speaker 3: created Obamacare? Well, who else? Obama can't sign a piece

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Speaker 3: of paper and issue at executive order created It was

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Speaker 3: passed by the Democratic Senate in House without a single

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Speaker 3: Republican vote. Do I remember that there wasn't one Republican

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Speaker 3: vote for it. And when the subsidy was passed extended

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Speaker 3: early in Biden, who did that?

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Speaker 2: The Democrats? So now this.

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Speaker 3: Program that was created and then essentially renewed by the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: Is going broke as we knew it would, and they

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Speaker 3: want the Republicans.

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Speaker 2: To bail out the thing they created. You see the.

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Speaker 3: Problem with this Now, I acknowledge the following. We've had

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Speaker 3: Obamacare for ten years and there are people that are

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Speaker 3: dependent upon it, and it will be a hardship for

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Speaker 3: many of them if their premiums explode. I acknowledge that

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Speaker 3: it's not my fault because I said this would happen,

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Speaker 3: but I acknowledge that this problem is here.

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Speaker 2: Senator Mark Wayne Mullen has a very good quote on this.

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Speaker 3: And his position is my position if you have to

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Speaker 3: read between his lines of quote. Dems wrote Obamacare. They

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Speaker 3: passed Obamacare without a single GOP vote. They created the

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Speaker 3: Obamacare COVID credits without a single GOP vote, and they

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Speaker 3: extended those credits and chose a twenty twenty five expiration

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Speaker 3: date with no GOP votes. If the Dems want to

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Speaker 3: discuss their Obamacare failure, we welcome the conversation after they

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Speaker 3: end the Schumer shutdown. First of all, let's deal with

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Speaker 3: the second part of that first. There ain't gonna be

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Speaker 3: any extension of anything as long as the government is

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Speaker 3: shut down, and it's the Democrats that have shut down

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Speaker 3: the government.

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Speaker 2: So let's start right right there.

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Speaker 3: There's no extension of anything and no creation of any

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Speaker 3: new federal funds for anything during the period in which

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Speaker 3: there's a shutdown. But secondly, what else did he say

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Speaker 3: between the lines? Don't worry if you don't know, because

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Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you. I'll read the key line.

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Speaker 3: If Dems want to discuss their Obamacare failure, we welcome

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Speaker 3: the conversation. In other words, I think what Mullin is

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Speaker 3: saying is the Republicans are open and to continuing some

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Speaker 3: of these subsidies, but it means Obamacare is going to

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Speaker 3: be changed. It has been a racket that enriches the

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Speaker 3: insurance companies. And let me tell you the deep dirty seat.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's that deep of a secret.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's commonly known. Obamacare policies are not really good.

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Speaker 3: They cover rezillion things because it's one size fits all,

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Speaker 3: so if you're a male, you have to get a

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Speaker 3: policy that covers pregnancy and so on. They cover lots

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Speaker 3: of things, but the policies themselves have extremely high deductibles.

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Speaker 3: So until you hate your out of pocket maximum. You're

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Speaker 3: paying a lot for your healthcare because the insurance doesn't

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Speaker 3: kick in. One of the problems is is that they

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Speaker 3: don't allow specifically tailored policies under Obamacare so that individuals, employers,

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Speaker 3: and individuals that bio Obamacare under the healthcare marketplace are

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Speaker 3: able to opt out of all sorts of stuff they

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Speaker 3: don't need. You come up with that reform and the

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Speaker 3: policies could become less affordable, But the insurance companies don't

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Speaker 3: want that. Insurance companies love policies that require people to

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Speaker 3: carry coverage for something they will never use. Okay, put

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Speaker 3: yourself in the shoes of the insurance company. Do you

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Speaker 3: want to be Pall's insurance company? Imagine what a crappy

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Speaker 3: operation that would be. You'd never pay out. I'd be

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Speaker 3: on the phone and the line I'd be ringing if

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Speaker 3: your Pall's insurance company. Wouldn't you love to sell health

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Speaker 3: insurance to a man the covered pregnancy. You'd love that

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Speaker 3: because you know there's not any unless you're like redefining man,

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Speaker 3: like these trans people, there's no chance you're ever gonna

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Speaker 3: have to pay it out. So, as I say, if

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Speaker 3: the Democrats want to bail out of this terrible place

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Speaker 3: government policy that they created Obamacare. It's going to have

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Speaker 3: to be with reforms that are put in place by

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Speaker 3: Obamacare that Republicans approve of it. As I say, I acknowledge,

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Speaker 3: if you simply kill Obamacare entirely right now, what are

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Speaker 3: you going to do for all of the people for

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Speaker 3: whom that's been their healthcare for the last eleven years.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think the Trump would be in favor

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Speaker 3: of doing it. But these subsidies are a total It's

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Speaker 3: a massive amount of money that we're kicking in for

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Speaker 3: a program that is constructed idiotically, where you're charging and

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Speaker 3: requiring coverage for healthy twenty six year old people that

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Speaker 3: is identical the coverage of a sickly fifty eight year

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Speaker 3: old person. Let me move to another issue. This is

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Speaker 3: one of those topics that I can do three podcasts on,

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Speaker 3: but I'm going to cover it. This is going to

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Speaker 3: be the Cliff Snodes version of it. This debate's going

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Speaker 3: on in a lot of suburban public schools in fact,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of schools, and some of them private schools.

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Speaker 3: It's going on in fact, just state in a lot

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Speaker 3: of schools, whether or not to continue to allow students

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Speaker 3: to use their cell phones in school.

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Speaker 2: I think it's insane. I think it's.

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Speaker 3: Insane if a kid is sitting in a classroom, the

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Speaker 3: notion that the kid is running around texting, going on Facebook,

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Speaker 3: looking at porn or whatever else they're doing is preposterous.

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Speaker 3: It's a very simple solution to it, ban them, and some.

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Speaker 2: Schools have gotten very, very good at it.

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Speaker 3: What they do is they'll bake you at the beginning

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Speaker 3: of the day, turn your phone in and they put

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Speaker 3: it in like it's a bag or an enclosure or

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Speaker 3: something that you can't get into, and they give it

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Speaker 3: back to you at the end of the day. There's

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Speaker 3: a term for these things, and I forget what it is.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what that term is? Paul says, they

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Speaker 3: call it the cell phone bag. Well, it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Maybe there isn't other neah, but I've been throw it

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Speaker 3: in the cell phone bag. In the suburbs. There seems

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Speaker 3: to be more blowback to the bands than in the city.

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Speaker 2: No. I know why this is.

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Speaker 3: You have these helicopter moms that apparently feel the need

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Speaker 3: to text to text their children all day when they're

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Speaker 3: at school.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what it is, don't you part? Yes, Well,

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Speaker 2: what other part is it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about I'm not talking about the student's objections

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Speaker 3: to this. I'm talking about why the parents are of

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Speaker 3: Jeffney to it.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Well, in Pewaukee, which is the case that we're going

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Speaker 3: to study here, the school board has wanted to ban

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Speaker 3: cell phones in school and say that you couldn't have

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Speaker 3: them all day.

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Speaker 2: Students screamed, and so did parents scream.

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Speaker 3: That's the parents say, well, what if I have to

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Speaker 3: contact the kid because there's a tragedy, what did you

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Speaker 3: do before we had cell phoods? You call the school's

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Speaker 3: office and the principal tell us little Johnny, Hey, come

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Speaker 3: over here, here we have our disaster or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I mean. There is somewhere a.

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Speaker 3: Happy medium between the child neglect that many children go

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Speaker 3: through and the overparenting that some of these hovering parents do.

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Speaker 3: As for the students objecting, they'll come up with all

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Speaker 3: of this stuff that they want it. We all know

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Speaker 3: what they want to do. And secondly, a big part

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Speaker 3: of the problem that goes on in schools is the

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Speaker 3: cyber bullying that I admit I didn't have to go through,

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Speaker 3: nor Paul had to go through. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: when I was kids would pass notes around and all

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Speaker 3: of that stuff. It's far more harmful to past on

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Speaker 3: social media, and it just and people have proven to

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Speaker 3: be far more vile when they've got a phone or

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Speaker 3: a device in their hand than typing something out.

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Speaker 2: It's a problem.

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Speaker 3: So they've reached a compromise in Milwaukee after everybody yelled

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Speaker 3: and screamed, and that is that they can't have the

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Speaker 3: phones during class, but they can have them during the

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Speaker 3: lunch hour and break periods. They can't have them when

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Speaker 3: they're walking in the hallway from one class to another,

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Speaker 3: but there are periods in which they don't have a

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Speaker 3: class scheduled at all, when they have total, if not

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Speaker 3: total free time, more free time like a study hall,

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Speaker 3: of the lunch hour and so on, and they're able

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Speaker 3: to use their phones. Then I can live with this,

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Speaker 3: but I think we have to err on the side

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Speaker 3: of getting these things out of the hands of kids.

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Speaker 3: If you want to be able to teach kids, if

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Speaker 3: a teacher has any ability to control the classroom, they

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Speaker 3: can't have the kids running around doing crap on their phone. Well,

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Speaker 3: the teacher's supposed to be teaching well, and you know

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Speaker 3: that's a separate issue. Many of these schools still have

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Speaker 3: devices that you can use, like the laptops and notebooks

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Speaker 3: for researching someone. This is specifically the phones themselves, which

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Speaker 3: are convenient to do all sorts of things that I

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Speaker 3: think have nothing to do with a good educational environment.

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Speaker 3: And the parents object to this that they want to

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Speaker 3: they want to hear from their kids all day.

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Speaker 2: I mean, give me a break. We had phones.

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Speaker 3: Your daughters were young enough that there were cell phones

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Speaker 3: when they were still in school, right, I don't mean college.

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Speaker 2: I mean like high school. In grade school, they were

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Speaker 2: just kind of like coming into it. So that was

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Speaker 2: too early for they weren't allowed in school then. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so you'll have to go through this.

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Speaker 3: Now with your grandchildren and so on it and you'll

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Speaker 3: like bother them by talking like an archaic wh I

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Speaker 3: was a kid waiting even have a phone. We had

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Speaker 3: to be like Caliver Douglas and climb the pole. Remember

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Speaker 3: that in Green Acres you had to climb the pole.

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Speaker 3: I I'm old enough that I don't recall anybody having

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Speaker 3: to do that. No, you didn't have to get a signal.

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Speaker 3: You got to climb the pole because they didn't wire

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Speaker 3: the phone to go down into his house.

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Speaker 2: You had to climb to the top of the phone pole.

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Speaker 3: The use you don't remember, Green Acres, you don't remember these,

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Speaker 3: the tails you don't remember. Well, you didn't remember why

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Speaker 3: I had to climb at the top of the pool.

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Speaker 3: They had to climb at the top of the pole

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Speaker 3: because they didn't wire the house for the phe.

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Speaker 2: He was the only one.

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Speaker 3: Everybody else who lived in Hooterville they actually had the

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Speaker 3: phone in their house.

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Speaker 2: Nobody else is climbing to the top of the pole.

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Speaker 3: Only I'll play am I talking about this? This is

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Speaker 3: the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast.

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Speaker 3: The Republican Party in Wisconsin, as we know, it's not united,

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Speaker 3: and as we also know, that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 3: that my side continues to lose a lot of statewide elections.

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Speaker 3: It's not the only reason. A couple of things to

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Speaker 3: talk about here. There are indications that Tim Michaels may

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Speaker 3: be running for governor again. He went to the White

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Speaker 3: House yesterday. It is known that President Trump is not

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Speaker 3: happy with the field so far of Republican candidates for governor.

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Speaker 3: As I've explained, one of the reasons he's unhappy about

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Speaker 3: this is he doesn't want members of the House running

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Speaker 3: for other offices. He's made that clear. He doesn't want

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Speaker 3: Tom Tiffany running for governor. He wants him to run

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Speaker 3: for reelection to the House of repres editives why incumbents

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Speaker 3: have a far better chance of winning an election than

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Speaker 3: a challenger. Trump wants all the Republican inccumbents to run

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Speaker 3: for reelection because he knows that keeping control of the

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Speaker 3: House is going to be very hard. And I don't

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Speaker 3: think that there's much of a chance that Trump is

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Speaker 3: going to endorse Tiffany because he doesn't want Tiffany running

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Speaker 3: for governor, and he really doesn't like the notion that

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Speaker 3: Tiffany's not doing what he's supposed to do, which is

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Speaker 3: what Trump is telling him to do. From the perspective

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Speaker 3: of Tiffany, Okay, Trump's the president, but he's not the

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Speaker 3: boss of my personal life. I want to be the

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Speaker 3: governor of the state of Wisconsin and have a chance

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Speaker 3: to think I have a chance of winning. In addition

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Speaker 3: to that, I believe you don't need Tom Tiffany to

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Speaker 3: keep that House seat. That district is the most Republican

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Speaker 3: district in Wisconsin. Tiffany's district is essentially up North. Almost

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Speaker 3: all of up North except the northwest, a portion of

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Speaker 3: northwestern Wisconsin is Tiffany's district. But basically, and for those

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Speaker 3: of you who don't understand, up North, up North is

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Speaker 3: not the Fox Valley. Up North is up North. It's

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Speaker 3: become a very Republican area. So if Tiffany isn't the candidate,

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Speaker 3: I think they keep the seat. In any event, Trump's

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Speaker 3: not happy with the field. Josh Shouman, the Washington County executive,

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Speaker 3: is also running Showman's People don't like it when I

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Speaker 3: say this, but I don't think many people are very

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Speaker 3: impressed with the campaign that he's shown so far, and

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Speaker 3: they're very skeptical that you can emerge out of a

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Speaker 3: position like Washington County executive and use that as a

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Speaker 3: platform to win the governorship. Trump is close to Michael's.

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Speaker 3: Trump endorsed Michaels when he ran in twenty two. Tim

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Speaker 3: Michaels is a home in Palm Beach, It's not far

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Speaker 3: from mar A Lago. He and Trump are friends. Does

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Speaker 3: that mean that Michael should run for governor? Well, there

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Speaker 3: is this concern I have about somebody running for an

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Speaker 3: office that they lost the last time around. Rarely does

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Speaker 3: that result get reversed. It is possible when you're the challenger,

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Speaker 3: I believe it's never possible when you're in the incumbent.

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Speaker 3: You lose and then try to regain your seat. It

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Speaker 3: just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: In Wisconsin. There have been cases, however, of a.

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Speaker 3: Challenge you're running more than once for the position and

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Speaker 3: winning it the second time or the third time around.

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Speaker 3: More importantly, my concern is that we have another contentious,

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Speaker 3: divisive Republican primary. The Democrats police themselves. They have avoided

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Speaker 3: these contentious primaries, so A you don't have the candidates

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Speaker 3: ripping one another and providing all this foddy that can

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Speaker 3: be used against them in a general election. And b

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Speaker 3: they're not wasting their money. We saw the problem in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two with the Republicans in which Rebecca Clayfish

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Speaker 3: and Kim Michael spent a fortune trying to knock the

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Speaker 3: other one out of the primary. Well, that's all money

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Speaker 3: that couldn't be spent therefore by Michael's in the general

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Speaker 3: election and second late there were very very hard feelings

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Speaker 3: and the party did not unite and while I blamed

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Speaker 3: the Clayfish people for that, I've also said that if

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Speaker 3: Clayfish won, I think that Michaels' supporters, which was kind

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Speaker 3: of the Tommy Thompson.

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Speaker 2: Wing of the party, they wouldn't be united behind Clayfish.

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Speaker 3: Neither side was able to put their egos aside for

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Speaker 3: the good of the state of Wisconsin. And I fear

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Speaker 3: that the same thing is going to happen again if

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Speaker 3: Michaels does run. There has to be a way, I

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Speaker 3: think of convincing Tiffany to get.

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Speaker 2: Out of the race or vice versa.

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Speaker 3: I think in this instance, Republican leaders need to settle

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Speaker 3: upon a candidate who's going to be supported by the

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Speaker 3: majority of them, or you're on this suicide mission again

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Speaker 3: in which the Democrat. Now there is some indication that

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Speaker 3: Democrats might have their own fight. I think the path

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Speaker 3: is being paved pretty clearly for Sarah Rodriguez to win.

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Speaker 3: Others disagree with me. David Crowley, the Milwaukee County Executive,

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Speaker 3: is run as are about six lefties of Madison. But

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Speaker 3: I think Sarah Rodriguez is going to be the anointed one.

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Speaker 3: Crawley being African American and being the city from the

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Speaker 3: city of Milwaukee. Maybe that gives him a chance. I'm

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Speaker 3: skeptical of that. I think it's Democrats are going to

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Speaker 3: have when they see the polls. Whoever is behind it,

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Speaker 3: June's going to drop out of the race, the same

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Speaker 3: thing that they did with Mandela Barnes Senate race back

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two as well. In any event, there

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Speaker 3: is this potential here for more Republicans to get into

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Speaker 3: the race, and there could be somebody that isn't Michael's.

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Speaker 3: It isn't Tiffany still jumping into.

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Speaker 2: This thing next.

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Speaker 3: This story has gotten scant coverage in the media, but

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Speaker 3: I'm going to cover it.

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Speaker 2: The treasurer of.

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Speaker 3: The Republican Party of Wisconsin has resigned, and she's resigning

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Speaker 3: by taking a shot at the leadership of the party.

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Speaker 3: And the leadership of the party is Brian Shimming. Her

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Speaker 3: name is Kelly Rue.

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Speaker 2: Are you age? I'm going to read it.

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Speaker 3: I am writing to formally resign my position as Treasurer

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Speaker 3: of the Republican Party of Wisconsin, effective immediately. After careful consideration,

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Speaker 3: I have concluded that I can no longer meaningfully contribute

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Speaker 3: to our party's executive leadership team under the current circumstances.

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Speaker 3: The absence of a strategic plan, defined objectives and measurable outcomes,

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Speaker 3: as well as budgetary issues, have created an environment in

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Speaker 3: which progress is difficult to assess and nearly impossible to achieve.

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Speaker 3: As the saying goes, what gets measured gets done. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: without metrics or accountability, it is unclear what we are

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Speaker 3: working toward or what our capacity is to achieve our objective. Now,

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Speaker 3: let me interject, she wants definable metrics. In other words,

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Speaker 3: we're going to raise X amount of dollars in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five or in twenty twenty six, we're going to

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Speaker 3: win the governorship and keep the state to keep the

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Speaker 3: State Center and keep the State Assembly.

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Speaker 2: Other Wards, a.

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Speaker 3: Measurement and if it isn't achieved, you dump the people

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Speaker 3: that are in charge. That would be a metric on

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Speaker 3: an accountability, she's saying, they don't have any. And if

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Speaker 3: you don't have any, it's because the people in charge

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Speaker 3: don't want to be accountable if they fail.

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Speaker 2: That's her point that she's making here.

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Speaker 3: Continuing moreover, the internal dynamics of our PW's Publican Party

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Speaker 3: of Wisconsin, particularly the dysfunctional leadership I think that's cruly

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Speaker 3: a shot at shimming. Have made attempts at collaboration increasingly

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Speaker 3: unproductive and discouraging. The Lack of transparency, direction, and respect

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Speaker 3: for different perspectives or even basic board oversight has fostered

812
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Speaker 3: a culture that is not only ineffective but also absurd.

813
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Speaker 3: I love my country, my state, and my community. That

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Speaker 3: is why I volunteered my time in the first place.

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Speaker 3: It pains me that the Republican Party of Wisconsin continues

816
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Speaker 3: to repeat the same mistakes time and again. Well, Kelly,

817
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Speaker 3: join my club. I've been drawing attention to this for

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Speaker 3: about ten years. The dysfunction in the Republican Party of Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: the misdirection of funds, the fact that the party is

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Speaker 3: run by a click of Madison types, the fact that

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Speaker 3: they will not get that party headquarters out of Madison

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Speaker 3: and get it into a part of the state of

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin where actual Republicans live.

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Speaker 2: On and on.

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Speaker 3: There is no grassroots organization of the Republican Party of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: There's no attempt to raise any money for it. There's

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Speaker 3: no accountability toward anyone. There was zero attempt by the

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Speaker 3: Republican leadership of the state to stop Dan Kelly from

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Speaker 3: losing another state Supreme Court seat. They're not any good

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Speaker 3: at any of these things, and they've been tuned up

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Speaker 3: by the majority of Republican voters, and they've lost sense

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Speaker 3: of what their mission is. Their mission is grassroots organizing, fundraising,

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Speaker 3: and get out of the vote. It is not sitting on

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Speaker 3: your fat butt in an office in Madison hanging out

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Speaker 3: with all your lefty buddies who work across the street

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Speaker 3: at the Capitol. Anyway, back to Kelly Rue's piece, recent

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Speaker 3: election results in Wisconsin are clear. If URPW does not

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Speaker 3: drastically change its approach to everything leadership, fundraising, messaging, organizing,

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Speaker 3: addressing issues that Wisconsin I's care about, then it will

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Speaker 3: plan no role in deciding our state's future as a Conservative.

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Speaker 3: This greatly disappoints me, but it is clear that the

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Speaker 3: required change is not likely to come from rpw's current leadership.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the opportunity to have served with our PW

844
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Speaker 3: over the past decade. My sincere hope is that those

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Speaker 3: who remain in positions of authority will institute the critical

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Speaker 3: changes that must be made to our party. Regards Kelly Rue,

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Speaker 3: that's her resignation letter is treasurer of the Republican Party

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Speaker 3: of Wisconsin. In the meantime, the story in js online

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Speaker 3: today that I think is a week behind, but it's

850
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Speaker 3: in there. It's by Laurence Andrea, who has been reporting

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Speaker 3: on the internal fight between Turning Point. That's the organization

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Speaker 3: founded by Charlie Kirk and the Republican Party of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Turning Point is doing all the things the Republican Party isn't. A.

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Speaker 3: It's attracting tons of volunteers, B, it has a huge

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00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: budget in his paid staff. C. It's organizing in the grassroots. D.

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Speaker 3: It's walking up to human beings and persuading them to

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Speaker 3: vote and telling them which way to vote. All the

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Speaker 3: things the Democrats have been doing forever and ever and

859
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: ever that the Republicans are incapable of doing. In the process,

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00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: Turning Point has been trying to get its people in

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Speaker 3: charge of a number of the local chapters of the

862
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Speaker 3: Republican Party, and the Republican Party leadership doesn't like it.

863
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Speaker 3: But the story goes on and dissects the current relationship here.

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Speaker 3: The Milwaukee County Republican Party has been I'll saying, kind

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Speaker 3: of taken over by Turning Point. Hilario DeLeon, who is

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Speaker 3: the chair of the Republican Party of Milwaukee County, is

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Speaker 3: in fact a volunteer for Turning Point, and he's been

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Speaker 3: critical of the statewide organization, and he's becoming one of

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Speaker 3: the Turning Point people that is criticizing or at least

870
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Speaker 3: raising questions about the poor priorities of the Republican Party

871
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Speaker 3: of the state of Wisconsin. The story says that a

872
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Speaker 3: lot of state Republicans think that, well, Turning Point's good

873
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Speaker 3: at working with young people, but they can't do this,

874
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Speaker 3: that and the other thing. In Turning Points, you keep

875
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: its focus on converting young people to vote for Republicans. Well,

876
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: that should be their focus, but I think the Turning

877
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: Point has ambitions of being larger than that. And I

878
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: think that the Charlie Kirk ideology, and hopefully it will

879
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: carry through now that he's no longer with us, in

880
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 3: which you have to meet people change their minds, and

881
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: the likeliest person whose mind can be changed as a

882
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: younger person because they don't have thirty or forty years

883
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Speaker 3: of buying into this leftist clap trap, is the way

884
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Speaker 3: to succeed. I have tried for several years to get

885
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: pressure to change the Republican Party of Wisconsin.

886
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Speaker 2: I have not succeeded.

887
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 3: However, the donor base has voted with its checkbooks. They're

888
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Speaker 3: giving money to individual candidates, and they're giving money to

889
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: independent political organizations, but they're not giving money to the

890
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 3: state Republican Party because they don't believe it is being

891
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: well spent. The twenty six election is fast approaching. I

892
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Speaker 3: think that the state Supreme Court race next spring is

893
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Speaker 3: a long shot at best. We now do have a candidate,

894
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Speaker 3: Maria Lazarre is running. She's running against another left wing,

895
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Speaker 3: lunatic judge from Madison, Chris Taylor. Our side has shown

896
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 3: no ability to win these state Supreme Court elections. The

897
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Speaker 3: governor's election of the state legislative elections are in the

898
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Speaker 3: fall of next year twenty six, and those are critical,

899
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Speaker 3: and those are ones in which the Republicans I think

900
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: of a clear chance of winning because the Democrats have

901
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Speaker 3: gone nuts, and in a state like Wisconsin, Democrats running

902
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Speaker 3: for statewide office do not want to run well having

903
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Speaker 3: to defend the policies of Mandani AOC, Bernie Sanders, and

904
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: those other left wing cooks that have alienated the majority

905
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Speaker 3: of the people in regular Old America, including regular world Wisconsin,

906
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Speaker 3: which creates this opening, but the opening is again.

907
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Speaker 2: Going to be missed.

908
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: There are two things critical in winning elections. A you

909
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 3: have to get all of your people, not most of them,

910
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: all of your people to vote, and B you have

911
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: to raise money. The Democrats have mastered this in part

912
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: they have way more billionaires than our side has. Just truth,

913
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Speaker 3: the whole tech thing, the mass vast majority of them

914
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: are lefties, the sorrows thing. They've got all of that,

915
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: and they've taken advantage of mailan voting and all of

916
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Speaker 3: these other changes in voting rules to get almost all

917
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: of their people to vote in almost all of the

918
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Speaker 3: elections that we have. In the meantime, it is not

919
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Speaker 3: hunky doryan Democratville. Let's start with the optics of No

920
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: Kings Clay Travis, half of Clay and Buck. It's about

921
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Speaker 3: forty seconds here. He was on Jesse Watts showing I'm

922
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Speaker 3: gonna quote him. I could play the cut here, but

923
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Speaker 3: Paul begged me not to give him any additional work,

924
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Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna read what it is that he

925
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Speaker 3: had to say that that's not true. It's short enough

926
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Speaker 3: that I'm just gonna read what Clay said. The party,

927
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Speaker 3: the Democrats. The party has lost touch with mainstream America,

928
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 3: particularly younger generations, and risks becoming a relic of the past.

929
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Speaker 3: The Democrats emphasis on identity politics, elite driven policies, and

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Speaker 3: performative activism. Let me pause, what does that mean? Performative activity?

931
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Speaker 3: That means just dressing up.

932
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Speaker 2: And showing up.

933
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Speaker 3: And the whole point of holding your rally is look

934
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Speaker 3: at me with my pink and blue hair and women

935
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Speaker 3: with the hairy arm pitts say, you know, running around

936
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Speaker 3: with your trans signs.

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Speaker 2: And it's performative. That's the term for.

938
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Speaker 3: Back to Clay's common and performative activism has alienated working

939
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Speaker 3: class voters and independence. As social media amplifies these moments, KeyPoint.

940
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 3: See everybody saw these no Kings things because a they're

941
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Speaker 3: videoing themselves and be Conservatives.

942
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Speaker 2: Are videoing all of them.

943
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Speaker 3: As social media amplifies these moments, the viral cryps of

944
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Speaker 3: cringeworthy protests, the party's image suffers further. With Trump back

945
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Speaker 3: in the White House, Republicans are capitalizing on the moment,

946
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Speaker 3: portraying themselves as the party of strength, freedom and fun.

947
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Speaker 3: I think that's a very good analysis. In the meantime,

948
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Speaker 3: this piece it appeared in The Hill. The Hill is

949
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Speaker 3: a website that covers Congress. It's not a conservative site.

950
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Speaker 3: They are quoting without not by name, without attribution, moderate

951
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: Democrats in the Congress who say that they want to

952
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: vote to end the shutdown, but they're terrified of doing so.

953
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: We know who they're terrified of. Again, this is being

954
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: reported on the Hill, and I'm going to read here.

955
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Speaker 2: A brief portion of the report.

956
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Speaker 3: People are going to get hammered if they vote for

957
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Speaker 3: the House pass bill to reopen the government and keep

958
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Speaker 3: it funded through November twenty first, said one Democratic senator

959
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Speaker 3: who requested anonymity. Centri Senators are fearful of breaking with

960
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 3: leaders while party activists are planning the anti Trump rallies.

961
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Speaker 3: Democratic strategists say the main driver of the political fear

962
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Speaker 3: within the Democratic caucus is online fundraising, which is largely

963
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: driven by social media. In other words, they're fearful of this.

964
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Speaker 3: A Democrat who votes for the House bill to end

965
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 3: the shutdown will be targeted with opposition. Somebody's going to

966
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: run against them in a primary, and that primary opponent

967
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: will raise a f fortune nationally online from these lefties

968
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 3: who don't want anything other than socialists Mamdanni types AOCS

969
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: in the Congress. So you have Democrats, who, I think

970
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: now that nol Kings is over, want to reopen the government,

971
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Speaker 3: but they're terrified of the left wing LUNs that are

972
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Speaker 3: driving their party. There's an editorial that appeared yesterday in

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Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal Mamdani and the Democrats. First of all,

974
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 3: ma'm Donni's gonna win. He's got to be the mayor

975
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Speaker 3: of New York, which is a terrible thing for this country.

976
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Speaker 3: But some Republicans think it might be good for the

977
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Speaker 3: Republicans in twenty six because the crisis in New York

978
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Speaker 3: will be immediate and it will be a walking advertisement

979
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Speaker 3: to voters all over America to not vote for these

980
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Speaker 3: Democrats in twenty six. That's the backdrop the editorial for

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Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal. Democrats have a problem, and we

982
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: don't mean Donald Trump. The arguably bigger danger is the

983
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: socialist insurgency building in their own party, and the latest

984
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: test of their resistance is candidate Zoraon Mumdani and New

985
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: York City's mayor race. Republicans might want to hold off

986
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Speaker 3: on the gloating the thirty three year old Mamdani is

987
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 3: leading in the race, having won the Democratic primary as

988
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Speaker 3: a proud member of the Democratic Socialists of America. Andrew Cuomo,

989
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: who lost in the primary, is running as an independent

990
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: and has has closed the polling gap since Mayor Eric

991
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: Adams left the race, but it remains in double digits.

992
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: The story then goes on and discusses the radicalism of

993
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 3: Mundani and how while it may play among some younger

994
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: voters and may get him elected in an overwhelmingly liberal

995
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 3: city like America, is the kind of thing that has

996
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: driven mainstream middle Americans who may have leaned Democratic in

997
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: the past away from the party. I'll point out there's

998
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: almost nothing in this type of socialism for African Americans,

999
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: and there isn't much for a lot of Latinos, those

1000
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: are primarily working clas last parts of the American economy

1001
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: and the voter base. You see very little support for, say,

1002
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: the trans movement in the African American communities, and when

1003
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: you see the focus on these kinds of niche elitist issues,

1004
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: it's created this opening for Trump and the Republicans to

1005
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 3: go after them, and the farther the Democrats move themselves

1006
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: to the left in cities like New York, the easier

1007
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: it is for someone running for, say, governor of Wisconsin,

1008
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Speaker 3: to link the Democrat in their state.

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Speaker 2: To that crowd.

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Speaker 3: When we come back after the break, I'm going to

1011
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: explain something to you, and it's something that includes a

1012
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 3: story that at least has some negative connotations for Milwaukee.

1013
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: This is the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark

1014
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Speaker 3: Belling podcast. Story in the Wall Street Journal, most and

1015
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Speaker 3: Cores says it's going to cut about nine percent of

1016
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Speaker 3: its America's workforce. America's means not just the United States,

1017
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Speaker 3: our hemisphere, nine percent, Molsencore's owns Miller, et cetera. Many

1018
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: of the jobs that are going to be eliminated are

1019
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: salaried positions as opposed to production line people. The story

1020
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 3: goes into all of the reasons that it's going on.

1021
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Speaker 3: They want to focus on their growth areas of their

1022
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Speaker 3: business and perhaps orphan off the stuff that isn't growing,

1023
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Speaker 3: et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But the bigger backdrop to this is.

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Speaker 3: Beer consumption in America is declining, and in fact, last

1026
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Speaker 3: year there was a decline in overall alcohol consumption. This

1027
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: is something that if you go back twenty or twenty

1028
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: five years, you just would not have predicted it. In fact,

1029
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 3: in fact, one of the the alcohol industry has always

1030
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Speaker 3: been thought to be kind of recession proof. No matter

1031
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Speaker 3: what the economy is, people are going to drink, and

1032
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Speaker 3: as the population grows, there's more potential drinkers. The drinking

1033
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: in the American culture were just linked that it was

1034
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 3: the ultimate slow growth industry. Never have great, huge growth

1035
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Speaker 3: because most Americans already drink. So how do you create

1036
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: Do you have fifteen percent growth?

1037
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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 3: But the slow and steady growth just seem to be

1039
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Speaker 3: an inevitability. So what's going on here? Well, I know

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Speaker 3: what's going on in pulse are the same thing. There's

1041
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Speaker 3: so many people that are using pot in its various

1042
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Speaker 3: forms and pills that they're getting their buzz that way

1043
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Speaker 3: rather than from alcohol. This creates I suppose the argument

1044
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Speaker 3: of what's better or what's worse, And my answer has

1045
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Speaker 3: always man, it depends. If you become addicted to alcohol,

1046
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: your life can become a mess. Drunk driving, ruining your life,

1047
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Speaker 3: behavioral changes, becoming a terrible employ all of the stuff,

1048
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Speaker 3: you know, being a mean person. Among the ramifications of

1049
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Speaker 3: alcohol is and particularly if you're the kind of drunk

1050
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Speaker 3: whose personality changes for the worst after drinking. On the

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Speaker 3: other hand, the overwhelming majority of people who drink do

1052
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Speaker 3: so in a benign fashion, and I think only a

1053
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Speaker 3: tiny fraction of people who drink ever become addicted. To me,

1054
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Speaker 3: it's just obvious that marijuana is far more addictive than

1055
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Speaker 3: alcohol is most people who drink alcohol, other than those

1056
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Speaker 3: who I think have an addiction problem. You know, okay,

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Speaker 3: you're not going to drink this We go, okay, fine,

1058
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Speaker 3: I won't drink that week. They can somehow survive that.

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Speaker 3: When you tell a pot head that they can't use

1060
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: pot in a given week, they'll freak out. Now, imagine

1061
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Speaker 3: if it's something stronger than that, if it's the meth

1062
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Speaker 3: and the phenotol and everything else. The next part, all

1063
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Speaker 3: this stuff costs money. Whatever money you're spending on pot,

1064
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Speaker 3: whatever money you're spending on fetanola, that everybody you're spending

1065
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Speaker 3: on meth is money that you can't spend.

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Speaker 2: A Miller lite. As the drugs have become.

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Speaker 3: More pervasive, and in particular, as the pot has become legalized.

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Speaker 3: And don't think for a moment that legalization of pot

1069
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Speaker 3: doesn't increase use.

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Speaker 2: Of course it does.

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Speaker 3: There are people who did not use pot because they

1072
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Speaker 3: didn't want to be busted and go to jail and

1073
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Speaker 3: lose their reputation and so on. But once it becomes legal,

1074
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Speaker 3: that stigma's gone. Secondly, when pot was illegal, you'd have

1075
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Speaker 3: to buy it from people on the street and all

1076
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Speaker 3: of that stuff. Walking into a dispensary and doing something

1077
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Speaker 3: that's perfectly legal eliminates that stigma. So I think that's

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Speaker 3: the simple explanation for what's going on with the alcohol industry.

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Speaker 3: Whether or not it's good or bad, it is I

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Speaker 3: think undeniably.

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Speaker 2: What's happening. One of these years, I'll get out of

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Speaker 2: this whole Kradom thing. Do you know about this? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I see one of these years.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those topics that if I ever have

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Speaker 3: a show in which I can't think of anything to do,

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01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: it's a good one to be able to do. But

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Speaker 3: I never have any of those days where I can't

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Speaker 3: think of anything to do. You like, see it at

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Speaker 3: gas stations and you'll see that if the place sell,

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Speaker 3: here's the rule on it. If the place sell, it

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Speaker 3: sells it it will always be in huge letters on

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01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 3: the window there's nobody that sells it that doesn't have

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01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 3: it all over their thing, because apparently there are people

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Speaker 3: that seek it out and look.

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Speaker 2: To buy it.

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Speaker 3: I just I should like tease it and say I'm

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Speaker 3: going to do it in a future podcast and get

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Speaker 3: people to listen every day for the next thirty seven years,

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Speaker 3: hoping that that'll be the that I actually bring up the.

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Speaker 2: Why are you thinking that this You don't even know

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Speaker 2: what it does for you. I just hear.

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Speaker 3: I believe it is kratum. I should look that up

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01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 3: before I just give that out there. I've ever used it.

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Speaker 3: I just heard people say, and I see the signs

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Speaker 3: and gas stations. It's in the area of quasi illgality.

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Speaker 3: You know, if something isn't specifically illegal, that means it's legal.

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01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 3: The same thing with like the designer pot that they've

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: come up with, and that's not what that is. But

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Speaker 3: for example, you didn't if you don't read a law

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Speaker 3: that says that fake pot isn't illegal, that means it's legal.

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Speaker 3: You have to say a specific thing. So people, it's

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Speaker 3: the same thing with the you know, the steroids in

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Speaker 3: sports and so on. You beat all of these steroids,

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Speaker 3: well then somebody in a lab in vins a new

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Speaker 3: type of steroid that isn't on the specified list and

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Speaker 3: you use it until you go ahead and you Paul says,

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Speaker 3: the thc celser's are the big things in the verbs. Yes,

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Speaker 3: they probably put a big sign on the window saying

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Speaker 3: that that is what they have in there. Then too,

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Speaker 3: that's when you could tell that there's a demand for something.

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Speaker 3: As I say, that was my whole thing on the

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01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: create on that you put in a big sign on

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Speaker 3: the E sign on the window. Paul would like to

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Speaker 3: discuss this with other people. So if any of you

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Speaker 3: are further interested in further exploring this, Paul has a

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Speaker 3: high level of curiosity, and you can contact Cam and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he'd be happy to engage.

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Speaker 2: On you at.

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Speaker 3: Great length. See, some people are just into explore. They're

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Speaker 3: experimenting and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's their whole thing. Do you know what I want

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Speaker 2: to experiment in? Nothing, whatever it is I already do.

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Speaker 2: That's enough stuff for me to do.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to try anything new in any area

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Speaker 3: of life.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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