1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Well, the candidate field appears to be set, but it's 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: only I think today, even though those candidates have been 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: campaigning for several months now, that Wisconsin's gubernatorial race officially 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: got real. How do I know that? Because Tommy Thompson 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: is again floating his name as a possible candidate. That's 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: how you know campaign season is real. It's sort of 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: like as the leaves turn color the geese start flying 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: south for the winter, it signals the change of seasons. 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: The signal of the start of campaign season in Wisconsin 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: is Tommy Thompson saying, yeah, I'll totally run for this 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: statewide race. Welcome to the Thursday edition of The Dan 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: O'Donnell Show. Everything about the gubernatorial race covered on this program. 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Plus you'd better believe we are going to cover the 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: non shutdown shutdown. Insteed, words know it'steed world as we 15 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: know it. N feel five. 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Also, please do 51 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Dan o'donald Show podcast on iHeart Radio. Well, 52 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: it seems as though the Republican field is set ahead 53 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty six race for the Governor's mansion. 54 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Tom Tiffany announced on this program last week that he's 55 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: in just a couple of days before. A scandal involving 56 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: a transgender hornstar and all manner of illicit medium post 57 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: follows forced businessman Bill Burrion out of the race. Josh Showman, 58 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: the Washington County executive, is now running against Tiffany. It's 59 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 1: a two man race, but not if former Governor Tommy 60 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: Thompson has anything to say about it, you know a 61 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: campaign is really real. When Tommy says, hey, you know, 62 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: I am seriously considering running for this office. It doesn't 63 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: matter if it's governor, it doesn't matter, if it's Senate, 64 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it is some random, far flung 65 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: state assembly district. If Tommy says he's in, you know, 66 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: the race is on now. Normally what happens here, because 67 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: I've been following Wisconsin politics for quite some time, is 68 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: that you start to first get the feelers out there 69 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: from longtime Tommy allies. They'll say, you know, Tommy's not 70 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: doing anything, and Tommy would be interested in running for 71 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: name the elected position. This time, he just kind of 72 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: came right out and said it in an interview on 73 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: WTMJ radio. Apparently he didn't want anybody to hear him 74 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 1: say that he's interested in running for governor again, because 75 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: he said it on WTMJ radio. He said, I am 76 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: still looking at it, and I'm seriously looking at it, 77 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: So that would go is what goes into it. But 78 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: no decision has been made, but it's certainly something that 79 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: is not too far removed from my brain. Now this 80 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: is the point where I would normally say, this is 81 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: yet another example. And Boomers, you know I love you. 82 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: You know I love conservative boomers. I am the number 83 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: one fan of conservative boomers. I of course have a 84 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: life lesson that you cannot, under any circumstances, ever be 85 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: a lib boomer because lib boomers are the most cringe 86 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: things in the known universe and probably every other parallel 87 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: universe yet undiscovered. But conservative boomers are awesome. This is 88 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: the point where I would normally say, Okay, Boomers, it 89 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: is time to let go. It is time to accept 90 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: the fact. And nobody is saying your time is past. 91 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: Nobody is saying your time is passed. But we do 92 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: need a new generation of leadership. I would be saying that, 93 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: except Tommy is too old to be a boomer. He's 94 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: eighty three years old. He would be eighty five years 95 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: old in January of twenty twenty seven, when his term 96 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: would begin. Look, I love Tommy. I think the last 97 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: time I talked with Tommy was at the Republican National Convention, 98 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: the big welcome party. He was as gracious as could be. 99 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: He stopped to talk to me. A couple of my friends, 100 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: my wife. I have always Tommy. I think the world 101 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: of Tommy. Tommy is an absolute legend in conservatism, not 102 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: just in Wisconsin but across the country. That said that said, 103 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: I absolutely love marking the start of political season. It's 104 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: sort of like Tommy is Wisconsin's own political groundhog. If 105 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: he pops up and sees his shadow and decides that 106 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: he wants to run for four more years, you know, 107 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: campaign season has started early. If Tommy hasn't popped out 108 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: of the hole yet, it's you know, we've still got 109 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: six more weeks of pre campaign season, but it is 110 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: now underway. I'm kidding with you, Tommy. I love you. 111 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: I just find it hilarious. And I was actually waiting 112 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: for this, ladies and gentlemen, I was waiting. I said, 113 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: at some point, at some point, I don't know if 114 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: Tommy and his people just like people talking about the 115 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: possibility that Tommy is going to run. Okay, thirty years 116 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: from now, you know what's gonna happen. You know what 117 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. They're gonna unfreeze Tommy. He is going 118 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: to emerge from the Walt Disney World castle and he 119 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: is going to announce that he's running for governor in 120 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: twenty eighty six. All right, it's it's it's nineteen eighty 121 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: six all over again. And or he's gonna be like 122 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: on Futurama, where it's just his head in a jar 123 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: and they're gonna place it on some automaton. And Tommy, 124 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Tommy Thompson twenty two forty two for you, this race 125 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: is in fact starting to take shape. In fact, something 126 00:08:54,400 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: happened today that nobody else would have noticed. That would 127 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: be Tommy Thompson announcing that he's running for governor again, 128 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: because he did so on WTMJ. Tommy, Tommy, I love you. 129 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: When you decide, okay, two years from now, we're gonna 130 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: have another Senate race in twenty twenty eight. When you 131 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: decide at age six that you're going to run for 132 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: the United States Center, at least that you're thinking about it, 133 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: do it on my show. Do it on my show. 134 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: Everybody will be listening. But no, the thing that nobody noticed, 135 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: save for your allegedly humble host, Tom Tiffany thinks he knows, 136 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: assuming of course, that he wins the Republican primary over 137 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: Josh Showman and the reanimated corpse of Tommy toms Okay, okay, 138 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: that was That's not going to happen until at least 139 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: twenty You know what Tommy is going to be. Tommy 140 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: is going to be his his consciousness is going to 141 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: be uploaded to a computer, and Tommy, four hundred years 142 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: from now is going to campaign on finally ending that 143 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: old Tony Evers veto funding education from four centuries in 144 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: the past. All right, assuming he gets past Josh Showman 145 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: and the eternal specter of Tommy Thompson jumping in the race. 146 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Tom Tiffany appears to be very confident, or at least 147 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: is trying to frame this race as though he knows 148 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: who his Democrat opponent is going to be with one 149 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: simple phrase that he repeated several times on social media 150 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: this afternoon, the Evers Rodriguez administration. He's not running against 151 00:10:53,559 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: the Evers administration. He's running against the Evers rodrige administration. 152 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: This might also be the very first time anyone has 153 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: ever actually acknowledged that Sarah Rodriguez does anything of substance 154 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: in the Tony Evers administration. But he's calling it the 155 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: Evers Rodriguez administration for a very specific purpose. Not only 156 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: does he want to tie Rodriguez to Ever's disastrous public policies, 157 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: which he's spent the day on X railing against. Also, 158 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: he seems to think Sarah Rodriguez is the most likely 159 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: candidate to emerge from an increasingly crowded Democratic primary, even 160 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: though most political insiders believe that Milwaukee Counties Executive David 161 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: Crowley is most likely to be the nominee Tiffany is 162 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: today running against Sarah Rodriguez. Now, this might have something 163 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: to do with the fact that just yesterday, the Democratic 164 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor's Assay Asociation announced it's going to invest two 165 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: million dollars next year through an independent expenditure to support 166 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: Rodriguez's gubernatorial bid. The DLGA executive director Kevin Holst said 167 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: in a statement, we believe in Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez's 168 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: ability to positively impact Wisconsin so much that we are 169 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: committing to spend two million dollars on her behalf to 170 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: ensure that she wins the Democratic nomination for governor. Why 171 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: would they be putting in this amount of money. It's 172 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: not as though the Democratic Lieutenant Governor's Association is rolling 173 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: in cash. It's because they believe that she has a 174 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: chance to win. Why would they believe that she has 175 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: a chance to win? 176 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: Now? 177 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: Of course they can say right now, yes, we're going 178 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: to support Sarah Rodriguez. We're going to contribute eleventy gajillion 179 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: dollars to our campaign. They don't actually have to do 180 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: it if she's dropped out by then. But what this 181 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: is is an early indicator that she is getting institutional 182 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: Democrats support and more importantly money. I also believe that 183 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: this announcement was timed to also coincide with what we 184 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: were reporting two days ago, and that is that Attorney 185 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: General Josh Cole is meeting with big time Democrat donors, 186 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: not just from here in Wisconsin. And let's speak totally 187 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: honest with ourselves, Democrats don't have big money donors here 188 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin or any donors here in Wisconsin. They get 189 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: all their money from California and New York and liberal 190 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: bastions where they just import gobs of outside money, while 191 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: at the same time condemning the outside money that comes 192 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: in on behalf of Republicans, Citizens United, and so forth. 193 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: This announcement that she's got two million dollars from this 194 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: association is probably going to be followed if in fact, 195 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: she has more announcements to make by subsequent ones to 196 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: show those donors who are right now meeting with Call 197 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: that she is the horse to back from the Evers administration, 198 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: not him. Call's decision on whether or not he's going 199 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: to jump into the gubernatorial race or run for Attorney 200 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,239 Speaker 1: General again, i am told by multiple sources, is contingent 201 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: upon the financing being there. He doesn't want to have 202 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: to beg borrow and deal and scrape by to try 203 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: to finance a campaign. He wants to go in with 204 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: all the institutional support, with all of the big money donations, 205 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: which wouldn't necessarily clear the field, because you're always going 206 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: to have the Francesca Hongs and the Brett Halsey's hanging 207 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: around just sniping on social media and maybe doing the 208 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: occasional left wing radio interview to stay relevant. But it 209 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: might force some of the people like David Crowley or 210 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Rodriguez or kel deroy Is to head for the exits 211 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: so that they don't waste donor money on a futile 212 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: run against Cole, who would just be at that point 213 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: too strong, or they would consider dropping out, allowing the 214 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: party to coalesce around Cole, just like it did a 215 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: week before the primary election in August of twenty two, 216 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: around Mandead beat Barnes in the US Senate race, so 217 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: that Democrats wouldn't have the sort of bloody primary that 218 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: is just destroyed Republican chances in statewide races for the 219 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: last several cycles. This is a big development that Rodriguez 220 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: A is getting a pledge for two million dollars b 221 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: is announcing it. And see that this is causing Tom Tiffany, 222 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: someone who many people consider to be the front runner 223 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: for the Republican nomination, to start suddenly attacking the Evers 224 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: Rodriguez administration. All of this does not exist in a vacuum. 225 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: And it also comes as Conservatives finally get a candidate 226 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: to replace the retiring Rebecca Bradley in the Wisconsin Supreme 227 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: Court race. But is that candidate ready for the hard 228 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: nosed game of politics or is she giving a law 229 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: school lecture. We will discuss analyze that race coming up 230 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: in just three minutes and irreverence, you get both in 231 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: equal measure here on the Dan o'donald Show, welcome back 232 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: to it. Yesterday we welcomed Maria Lazar Wisconsin Appeals Court 233 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: judge great friend longtime friend of the Dan o'donald show, 234 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: to the program on the day that she announced via 235 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: a video early in the morning yesterday that she was 236 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: running to be the conservative candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court. 237 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: In that four minute video, guess how many times she 238 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: said the word conservative zero. None. I get that. I 239 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: understand it. When you introduce yourself to voters, you don't 240 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: want half of them immediately tuning you out and not 241 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: giving you a chance by declaring your ideology. I want 242 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: to contrast this with the very first interview that her opponent, 243 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: Chris Taylor, did with Wisconsin Public Radio. This is a 244 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: quote from Wisconsin Public Radio five months ago on the 245 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: day that Taylor got in the race. In an interview 246 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: with WPR, Taylor said she's not hiding what her values are. Quote. 247 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: My values are that women in families should have the 248 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: ability to make their most personal, private healthcare decisions, Taylor said. 249 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: But as a judge, what I do every single day 250 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: is look at the facts of the case and apply 251 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: the law in the most fair way possible. No word 252 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: on whether the reporter from Wisconsin Public Radio had to 253 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: pause to edit out all of the laughter. She clearly 254 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: doesn't do that. She is a left wing idiolog. Everybody 255 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: knows it, most of all her voters. That's what they want, 256 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: a left wing idiolog. Conservative voters do not, But they 257 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: also want somebody who is not going to be milk 258 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: toast and give them a lecture about constitutional law. Look. 259 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: I'm about the biggest legal nerd in this state. You 260 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: are not going to find another politico on the radio 261 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: or an elective office who enjoys discussing con law more 262 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: than me. I actually petitioned my law school twenty some 263 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: years ago to be allowed to take more constitutional law 264 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: classes because I knew that either I was going to 265 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: be doing this for a living or I was going 266 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: to be a constitutional lawyer of some sort. I love 267 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: con law. I love discussing as most of you who 268 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: listen to this program know, the proper role of government 269 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: in the judiciary. Most voters don't want that. Most voters 270 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: need a concrete reason to vote for you. If your 271 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: name happens to be something other than Donald J. Trump. 272 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: If Trump is on the ballot, he's going to turn 273 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: out voters for him and against him. The challenge for 274 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: Republicans has been to get those Trump voters out in 275 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: elections where Trump is on the ballot. Since twenty seventeen, 276 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: after about a decade of dominance by Republicans and Conservatives 277 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: in statewide races during the Scott Walker era, a grand 278 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: total of four Conservatives and Republicans have one Wisconsin statewide. 279 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in twenty twenty four, Ron Johnson and John 280 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: Leiber the state treasurer in twenty twenty two, and Brian Hagadorn, 281 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: the alleged conservative Supreme Court justice in twenty nineteen. That's 282 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: the end of the list. Those are the only four Republicans. 283 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: One of them was Trump, and Trump very nearly one 284 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: Wisconsin again in twenty twenty. Every other statewide candidate has lost. 285 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: Every other statewide Supreme Court candidate who ran with an opponent, 286 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: Annette Ziegler didn't actually have an opponent when she last 287 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: ran for reelection, As shocking as that sounds, every other 288 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: candidate has lost. Every other Supreme Court candidate has lost 289 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: by double digits. I am encouraging. I am doing two 290 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: days now worth of tough love because I do care 291 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: about this state, even though control of the Supreme Court 292 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: isn't at stake. As Lazarre herself said when we talked 293 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: to her yesterday, she believes and I think she's absolutely right. 294 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: Control of the court for the next two decades is 295 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: at stake in this race. And that's why it is 296 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: so disheartening to hear in her introductory video broad platitudes 297 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: about upholding the rule of law like this. 298 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: Wisconsin deserves justices who don't seek the position to boaster 299 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: their ego or to serve a political point of view. 300 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 3: Wisconsin deserves a justice who will remember that the sole 301 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: purpose of the courts is to construe the constitution of 302 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: laws as written by the representatives you, the people elect. 303 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: I am that judge, and I am seeking your vote 304 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: to be that justice. 305 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: Okay, First of all, fifty percent of the voters in 306 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: this state don't want that. They want an overt partisan 307 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: liberal who is going to promise to give them every 308 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: single thing that they want, who is going to promise 309 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: to redraw the electoral match, to strike down ACTEN, to 310 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: get rid of voter ID, to provide abortions until the 311 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: kid is eight years old, for goodness sakes, why do 312 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: you think. In her very first interview with Wisconsin Public 313 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: Radio five months ago, Chris Taylor said, my values are 314 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: that women and family should have the ability to make 315 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: their most personal, private health care decisions. She is telling 316 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: you exactly how she would rule on any abortion case. 317 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: But she's not dumb enough like janetprotos Seywhiz was two 318 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: years ago to openly violate the code of Judicial conduct 319 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: by saying, So, this is the trap that so many 320 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: conservative judicial candidates fall into in this state because they 321 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: think that, oh, my goodness, if I say what my 322 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: value If I say something like my values are that 323 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: if you have a wiener, you don't belong in the 324 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: girl's locker room. Now, this is probably why I Dan 325 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: O'Donnell would never ever, ever, ever, ever get elected to 326 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court or any other elective office, because I 327 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: have no problem saying that my values are that if 328 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: you are a dude and you're trying to play girls' sports, 329 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: I will do everything in my power to rain down 330 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: the power of government on you. Because basic societal rules 331 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: for the past several thousand years have made it abundantly 332 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: clear that guys are guys, girls are girls. Boys are boys, 333 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: girls are girls, and there is a biological difference. This 334 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: is something that was proven to have a huge impact 335 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. You can say things like that. 336 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: You could say, do you think Chrissy Taylor would vote 337 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: to keep boys out of the girl's locker just knowing 338 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: what you know about Chrissy Taylor. Even if you know 339 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: nothing about Chrissy Taylor other than the fact that she 340 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: has a D next to her name, what do you think, Yes, 341 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: if you have a D not just next to your name, 342 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: but in your pants, she will allow you in the 343 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: girls locker room. It's what modern democrats do. Stand up 344 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: against that, say you are going to be the bulwark 345 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: against that. Talk about all of the money saved by 346 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: Act ten. Say look, they are in the process of 347 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: overturning it. They are doing so on unconstitutional grounds. Openly 348 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: say they redistricted, they gerrymandered this state just so Democrats 349 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: would have a fighting chance of winning the state legislature again. 350 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: And here we are heading into twenty twenty six with 351 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: Democrats holding a very very good chance of doing just that. 352 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: There are ways to say things that respond that get 353 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: voters to respond to that. We are increasingly, as conservatives 354 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: and Republicans dependent on rural voters. Rural voters don't want 355 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: to be lectured about the proper role of government that 356 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: they want to know. How are you going to stop 357 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: the insanity of the left. We will get into that 358 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: and talk about some of the demographic challenges Republicans now 359 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: have winning statewide when the Dan O'Donnell show returns. I 360 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: don't think enough conservatives are fully appreciative of some of 361 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: the demographic challenges that we have. Republicans have won just 362 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: four statewide races since President Trump won the presidential election 363 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, Trump again in twenty four, Senator Johnson 364 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: and State Treasurer John liber in twenty two, Supreme Court 365 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: Justice Brian Hagadorn in twenty nineteen. That's it. End of list. 366 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: Three state Supreme court races earlier this year, twenty twenty 367 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: three and twenty twenty all ended in double digit blowouts 368 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: for the lips. Now people have been trying to figure 369 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: out exactly what has been going on. Is it messaging, 370 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: is it the Republican Party? Is it leadership? Is it 371 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: a lack of donors. I am of the opinion that 372 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: a whole lot of it is simply demographic shift. Think 373 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: about the Scott Walker era. Think about when you first 374 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: voted for Scott Walker that was fifteen years ago. A 375 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: fifty five year old voter in the prime of his 376 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: earning years, or sort of towards the end of his 377 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: earning years, is now seventy years old, probably past retirement age, 378 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: and very often a snowbird down in Florida or Arizona 379 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: because Florida has no state income tax. Many of those 380 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: snowbirds are staying for six months and one day enough 381 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: to establish legal residents, and they're voting in Florida or Texas. 382 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: This is showing up nationwide. They're gaining residents so quickly 383 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: that both are estimated to gain four additional congressional seats 384 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: and thus four more electoral votes a piece following the 385 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: twenty thirty census. On the flip side, the biggest Democrat states, California, 386 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: New York, and Illinois, are projected to lose three, two 387 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: and one seats respectively. In fact, all of the states 388 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: that are right now projected to lose seats in twenty 389 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: thirty following the census are blue ones California, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oregon, 390 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: Rhode Island, and Yes, Wisconsin. Likewise, every state that's projected 391 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: to gain a seat is a red one. Texas, Florida, Idaho, Utah, 392 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: and Arizona. Texas, Florida and Arizona in particular are retirement bastions. 393 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: It is well established that Republican voters tend to be 394 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: a little older, tend to be a little wealthier, and 395 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: tend to have more fluid capital that can move along 396 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: with them. It is my very strong suspicion that a 397 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: whole lot of the Republican voters are retiring to especially 398 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: Florida and Arizona. Florida is far and away the number 399 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: one retirement destination, Arizona is number two. I swear you 400 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: cannot walk about twenty five feet in Scottsdale without running 401 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: into somebody from Milwaukee. It is a very popular destination 402 00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: for people from Wisconsin, and they're establishing residency there as 403 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: those states are getting redder, Texas and Florida in particular, 404 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: blue states are getting bluer. And the biggest problem for 405 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: Wisconsin is that while Wisconsin is losing population, Dane County, 406 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: the biggest liberal bastion in the state, is growing by 407 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: leaps and bounds. Department of Administration estimates that over the 408 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: next twenty five years, Wisconsin is going to lose roughly 409 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand residents. Dane County, however, will increase in 410 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: population by about thirty eight percent, making it a far 411 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: bigger factor in statewide elections than it already isn't likely 412 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: turning Wisconsin even bluer than it already has. So how 413 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: is it that those four Conservatives who did win statewide 414 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: ended up winning. It's simple, they appealed to the conservative 415 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: voters who are still here. The problem with that is 416 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: that as President Trump has made insane gains among urban 417 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: black and Hispanic males as well as rural voters, he 418 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: has been hemorrhaging, and thus the Republican Party has been 419 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: hemorrhaging the higher propensity suburban voters. The way you rate 420 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: voters in terms of how likely they are to vote, 421 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: if their high propensity, medium propensity, or low propensity, is 422 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: by taking their voting record in the last four statewide elections, 423 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: not spring elections like we have here in Wisconsin, but 424 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: presidential elections midterm elections. So the last four here would 425 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: be twenty twenty four, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty and 426 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. High propensity voters are those who vote in 427 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: three or four of those four elections, medium propensity voters 428 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: two or three, low propensel city voters one zero sometimes two. 429 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: You want the three and four out of four voters. 430 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: Republicans used to have. Those Those four of four voters 431 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: are going to show up in a February primary even 432 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: if there's a blizzard. Democrats now have those voters. Republicans don't. 433 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: It's just the nature of a broader demographic and ideological 434 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: shift that has less to do with right and left 435 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: than it does with rural versus urban than it does 436 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: with the metropolitan mindset versus the Americana mindset. If we're 437 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 1: to put more of a broader spin on it, Trump 438 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: has a massive advantage in rural areas. In twenty twenty four, 439 00:31:53,920 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: exit polls showed seven to ten rural voters supported him. 440 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: Suburban voters after leaning Republican. Remember the soccer moms, the 441 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: security moms in the post nine to eleven era. They 442 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: have become far more liberal. They tend to lean democratic now. 443 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: Trump did make gains as he made gains with them. 444 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: Among every subset of voters across the country in twenty 445 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: twenty four, those are the more reliable voters. Those are 446 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: the ones who pride themselves on going to school board 447 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: meetings being civic minded, and they just they vote more 448 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: and now they are voting Democrat instead of Republican. It 449 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: is also a big challenge geographically in far northern Wisconsin 450 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: Western Wisconsin. The homes tend to be way more spread 451 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: out in Democrat concentrated areas. All you need to do 452 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: is go to a handful of dorms on college campuses 453 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: and you've got five to ten thousand votes all in 454 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: one swing. To get five to ten thousand votes, you 455 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: might have to go to three counties to do voter contacts, 456 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: door knocking. It's just much more difficult. Also, those voters 457 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: have a tendency to be only Trump voters, just as 458 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, Republicans fretted about the 459 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: never Trump contingent Republicans who are just never ever ever 460 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: going to vote for Trump. They're gone, They're dead. They 461 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: are well not dead. They're Democrats, which okay, they're brain dead. 462 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: They've become Democrats. Now the issue is only Trump voters. 463 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: It is people who have come into the Maga Trump 464 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: coalition but just aren't turning out for anybody whose name 465 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: is not Donald J. Trump. In twenty twenty five, just 466 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: a couple of months after the presidential election, Kamala Harris 467 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: voters for Kamala Harris voted overwhelmingly for Susan Crawford. Crawford 468 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: got seventy six percent of Kamala Harris's voters. Brad Schimmel 469 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: got sixty two percent of Trump's voters. That's still an 470 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: incredible percentage, but it's not enough. You need to give 471 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: every single Trump voter the red meat that they need 472 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: to convince them that you are on board the MAGA agenda, 473 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: that you are on board the fight against the increasingly 474 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: insane political, cultural, and social left, that you are on 475 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: their side. This is why we need candidates who are 476 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: willing to fight, who are willing to take that fight 477 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: to the left, to take that fight to all seventy 478 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: two counties, and not just talk about broad platitudes like 479 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: good government and the role of the Supreme Court and 480 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: things like that, but to actually connect with those Trump 481 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: voters and to give them a reason to vote for you, 482 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: just like Trump gave them a reason to vote for him. 483 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: We named the Unhinged Liberal of the Day when the 484 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show returns classical conservatism and contemporary style. Welcome 485 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: back to it. It is the Dan O'Donnell Show. This 486 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: isn't to say, folks, if you've been listening to the 487 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: last couple of segments, that conservatives can't win in Wisconsin. 488 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: In fact, they very much can. It's just a lot 489 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: more difficult than it was. I'm not saying Wisconsin is 490 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: no longer a purple state. It is, but the data 491 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: is very clear. In statewide elections that are not presidential races, 492 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: Democrats have an advantage out for the longest time. For 493 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: the longest time, it was the other way around. Democrats 494 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: would have the low propensity voters who they would have 495 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: no problem getting out on election day in presidential years, 496 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: they just have to go to downtown Milwaukee and hand 497 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: out cartons of cigarettes like they did in two thousand. 498 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: Republicans had the voters who would show up in every 499 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: single election. They were the high propensity voters. Republicans in 500 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: the Bush era, especially here in Wisconsin, dominated in the 501 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: off year elections state Supreme Court. It was Republican sweeps 502 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: year after year after year after year. The only statewide 503 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: race it seemed that they were unable to crack. Was 504 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Douglas Folla just always got himself re elected, 505 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: and of course state superintendent, which the teachers' unions have 506 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: had a strangle hold on since time immemorial. But in 507 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: governor's races as well as in Supreme court races, conservatives 508 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: did very well. There has been a seismic shift in 509 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: the era of Trump in that sense. Trump has been 510 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: a truly you rarely get these sorts of political figures. 511 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: Reagan was one. Trump is one, a truly transformative figure 512 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: who completely remakes the American electorate. Well, in a swing 513 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: state like Wisconsin, that is going to be even more 514 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: acutely felt, especially since, let's face it, we all know 515 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: that in a couple of months, the weather is going 516 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: to turn. It's going to be terrible. We're not going 517 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: to see the sun. For about three months. We've been 518 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: enjoying probably the best fall we've had in years, but 519 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: that only means that January is going to see six 520 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: feet of snow and at least four days of sub 521 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: ten below temperatures. A whole lot of people don't want 522 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: to deal with that anymore. And because Wisconsin has a 523 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: high tax burden, and Florida does not, and it's a 524 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: far better run state with a far better climate. People 525 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: are becoming Florida residence. Most of those people are Republicans. 526 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the clock right now realizing we're 527 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: going to have to postpone the unhinged liberal of the day. 528 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: Have no fear. We'll get to that and much more, 529 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: including your daily Trump Date, next Conservative Thought, Not just talk. 530 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: It is the Dan O'Donnell Show. Welcome back to it. 531 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to have some fun this evening. I'm going 532 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 1: to be at the Ingles Side Hotel along with former 533 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: Governor and current president of the Young America's Foundation, Scott Walker. 534 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: We're going to be doing a fireside chat courtesy of 535 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin for a great organization. They do great work. 536 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: They always try to have me do a talk. We 537 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: were at the i want to say Milwaukee Yacht Club 538 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: last year for one of these. Governor Walker is in 539 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: from the Reagan Ranch, or maybe he's just down the 540 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: street where he and Tonette's still have a condo. We're 541 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: going to have a lot of fun. It's going to 542 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: be a fireside chat. We're going to talk about you 543 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to I'm going to talk to 544 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: him about the theory I have about demographic changes and 545 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: some of the challenges that conservatives and Republicans now face 546 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: that they did in Walker's day. But the Walker Coalition 547 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: was very, very strong, and very loyal and made up 548 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: of a ton of high propensity voters. So we're going 549 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: to be talking about that. We're going to be talking 550 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: about the Supreme Court race. We are going to be 551 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: talking about what he's seen in the Young America's foundation 552 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: in the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the 553 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 1: radicalization of the left, assassination culture on the political left, 554 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: the government shut down, and much much more. Really looking 555 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: forward to that tonight. Ingleside Hotel seven o clock. The 556 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: four o'clock word in the iHeart Radio Fall Fortune Cash 557 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: contest is bills b I l LS bills. You've got 558 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: it until fifty five past this hour to go to 559 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: our website and enter the keyword bills to enter the 560 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: contest for this hour, pay your bills with a thousand 561 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: bucks in your pocket courtesy of us. If your entry 562 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: is picked at random time now for the Daily Trump Day. 563 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna win so much you may even get tired 564 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 4: of winning. 565 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 1: Trump just keeps winning. It is a win for the administration. 566 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: It's also a big win for the United States. We 567 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: have to keep winning. We have to win more. We're 568 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 1: gonna win. Moore, Well, the government may be shut down, 569 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: but the Trump administration does not stop working. It is 570 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: declaring war on drug cartels, and not just Venezuelan drug cartels. This, 571 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: according to a memo obtained by Fox News reporter Peter Doucey. 572 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 5: Urban says, based upon the cumulative effects of these hostile 573 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 5: acts against the citizens and interests of the United States 574 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 5: and friendly foreign nations, the President is determined that the 575 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 5: United States is in a non international armed conflict with 576 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 5: these designated terrorist organizations. The President directed the Department of 577 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 5: War to conduct operations against them pursuant to the law 578 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 5: of armed conflict. And the President just talked about this 579 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 5: this week. 580 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 6: If you try to poison our people, we will blow 581 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 6: you out of existence. 582 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: Because that's the only language they really understand. That's why 583 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: you don't see any more boats on the ocean. 584 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 3: You don't see any boats around Venezuela. 585 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: There is nothing, and it's. 586 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 5: Not just Venezuela. The President's team is putting out the 587 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 5: word that cartels throughout the Caribbean are now unnotice. 588 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: Now, this comes just a couple of weeks after President 589 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: Trump used the military to take out a Venezuelan drug boat. 590 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: Democrats were screaming about the lack of due process for 591 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: the drug dealers and cartel members. This allows the President 592 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: to take more unilateral action against those who would bring 593 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: deadly poison into our country. Now the government is shut 594 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: down for a second straight day. White House Press Secretary 595 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt went on Fox News earlier today to place 596 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: the blame for it again squarely on Democrats, who, she says, yes, 597 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: despite their protestations to the contrary, absolutely do want medicaid 598 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: for illegal. 599 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 7: I have the Democrat proposed continuing resolution right here where 600 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 7: you can read in the text, a provision that would 601 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 7: remove the provision that Republicans passed in President Trump's One Big, Beautiful. 602 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: Bill to ensure that illegal. 603 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 7: Aliens in our country cannot receive Medicaid and taxpayer funded 604 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 7: healthcare benefits. That was happening under the Biden administrations, and 605 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 7: the Democrats endorsed it, encouraged it, and vocally supported it. 606 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 7: Boh Biden and the Democrats allowed millions and millions of 607 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 7: illegal aliens into our country. They parolled them into the country, 608 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 7: they gave them a band aid called temporary protective status. 609 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 7: They completely abused our immigration system, and then those illegal 610 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 7: aliens were receiving the taxpayer funded healthcare benefits of hardworking 611 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 7: American taxpayers. 612 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: We will get into that in greater depth than just 613 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: one second, because this is a left wing narrative that 614 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:33,280 Speaker 1: just will not die. I have the irrefutable, incontrovertible proof 615 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: that yes, Democrats do want healthcare Medicaid coverage for illegals, 616 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: and we will get into just how illegal aliens make 617 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: the emergency room system far less efficient because they tend 618 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: to use it for primary care because it is the 619 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: only care that they can get because those hospitals can't 620 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 1: turn them away and get fully reimbursed by Medicaid programs. 621 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: But it's not just that. We'll get into that in 622 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: just one second now. On Fox, anchor Bill Hemmer asked 623 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: Levitt about President Trump on Truth Social this morning, saying 624 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: that he is meeting with OMB Director Russ Vote to 625 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: put into motion a plan for permanently reducing the size 626 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: of the federal government and permanently removing tens, if not 627 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of federal positions. Is that real or 628 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: is that a negotiating tactic. 629 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 8: Oh, it's very real. 630 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 7: And the Democrats should know that they put the White 631 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 7: House in the President in this position, and if they 632 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 7: don't want further harm on their constituents back home, then 633 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 7: they need to reopen the government. It's very simple. Past 634 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 7: the clean continuing resolution and all of this goes away. 635 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 7: We would not be having these discussions here at the 636 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 7: White House today if not for the Democrats voting to 637 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 7: shut the government down. This is an unfortunate consequence and 638 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 7: the President and vote. We'll be meeting on that later today. 639 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: It's not just the Medicaid coverage for illegal aliens. It's 640 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: also the fact that Chuck Schumer, according to Treasury Secretary 641 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: Scott Bessant, is terrified of a primary challenge coming next 642 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: year from one Alexandria Ocassio Cortes that would likely force 643 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: Schumer into retirement. On CNBC this morning, Bessant said that 644 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: the whole reason we're having a shutdown is because Schumer 645 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: is forever beholden to the farthest left voices in his 646 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 1: caucus in voter bank. 647 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 6: Let's just step back for a men, and look how 648 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 6: we got here. Chuck Schumer did the right thing in 649 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 6: the spring and led the Senate to a clean cr. 650 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 6: What we've got here is the House has they have 651 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 6: passed to clean cr. The Republicans have the votes in 652 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 6: the Senate, and he will not allow his numbers to 653 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 6: come across. And what's changed since then, it's his poll numbers, 654 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 6: you know. So you know the President, Vice President Vans, 655 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 6: Speaker Johnson, leaders soon they're not negotiating with Chuck Schumer, 656 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 6: who King Jeffreys. They're negotiating with a Representative Acasio Cortez 657 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 6: because she's nipping at his heels. And you know, so 658 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 6: the American people are being held hostage by Chuck Schumer's 659 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 6: poll numbers. 660 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: That, ladies and gentlemen, is your look back at what 661 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: happened at the White House today. We call it the 662 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: Daily Trump. Dad. Hey, speaking of the far left in America, 663 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: how about Elizabeth Warren, Massachusetts Senator, Democratic socialist and guest 664 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: this morning on the CBS Morning News, anchor Tony Doker 665 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: Pill was accepting as gospel the Democrat talking point that 666 00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: Republicans are lying about medicaid for illegals Liz Lost. You know, 667 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: Republicans say what you're really fighting for is taxpayer dollars for, 668 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: as they put it, illegal aliens. I know that's not 669 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: strictly true, but there is a provision. 670 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 8: Excuse me, not strictly it's true, but outlye it is 671 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 8: a flat out lie. The way that they in medicaid. 672 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 8: There is nothing in Medicare that permits one undocumented immigrant 673 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 8: to get one dollar of assistance. 674 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: It's called emergency Medicaid. And yes, they do get assistance 675 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: because they're not legally allowed to be turned away from hospitals. 676 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: Those hospitals get reimbursed by Medicaid. It costs hundreds of millions, 677 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: if not billions of dollars per year. But did you 678 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: notice Liz Warren just freaking out over the fact docapill 679 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: was Look, we know Republicans are lying. Okay, they're lying 680 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: about this, Senator war No, no, no, no, they're not 681 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 1: lying in the strictest sense. They're lying. You either accept 682 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 1: our narrative whole cloth, Tony Doak appeal, or you don't 683 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: even interview Liz Warren. How about this? Now, let's go 684 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: to page fifty seven of the Democrats Continuing Resolution. It 685 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: is Section twenty one forty one repeal of Health Subtitle changes. 686 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: The Health subtitle from the One Big Beautiful Bill, Subtitle 687 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: B shall be repealed. Subtitle B is repealed in any 688 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: law or regulation referred to in such subtitles, shall be 689 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 1: applied as if such subtitle and amendments made by such 690 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: subtitle had not existed. What is subtitle B? Well, Chapter one. 691 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 1: Subtitle B, first of all, is called Health. Chapter one 692 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: is called Medicaid. Section seven one one zero nine is 693 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: called Alien Medicaid eligibility. Guess what it says. In the 694 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: One Big Beautiful Bill illegal aliens are not eligible for Medicaid. 695 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: Democrats want to remove subtitle B. It is in Subtitle 696 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: E other Health provisions. Section twenty one forty one Repeal 697 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: of Health Subtitle changes on page fifty seven of the 698 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: Democrat Continuing Resolution. I don't know how much clearer or 699 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: more specific I could possibly be than that. If you 700 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: would like to read it yourself, be my guest. Here 701 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: are all of the things in that subtitle that would 702 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: be repealed by the Democrat Continuing Resolution. As I said, 703 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 1: Section seven one one zero nine that would that did 704 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: end Medicaid funding for non citizens seven one one seven 705 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: closing the California loophole, which will get to in a second, 706 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 1: which has allowed illegal aliens to get Medicaid funding through 707 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: the state of California's subsidization. Seven one two oh one 708 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: ending Medicare funding for most non citizens and this would 709 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: be legal and illegal immigrants alike. Seven one three oh 710 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: one ending Obamacare funding for most non citizens, and seven 711 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: one three h two repealing the Obamacare special rule for immigrants. 712 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 1: All of those would be repealed by the Democratic Continuing Resolution. 713 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 1: You can you can read it your self. Democrats are 714 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: lying about the fact that not a single cent of 715 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: Medicaid goes to covering illegal aliens. In fact, hundreds of 716 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: millions of dollars, if not billions, of reimbursements to hospitals 717 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act or EMTLA 718 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: require that nobody can be turned away from a hospital 719 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: regardless of their immigration status, their citizenship status. The idea 720 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: here is that if you present with a gunshot wound, 721 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: our doctors, our nurses are going to treat you. They're 722 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: good people, they're kind people. You're not going to be 723 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: turned away regardless of whether or not you have insurance 724 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: guess what though, illegal aliens know this. They understand this, 725 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: and they have a tendency to flock to emergency rooms 726 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: to get primary care coverage when they have some sort 727 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 1: of illness that they can't treat with tylanol or robotuscin 728 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: or something like that. When they got an ache or 729 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: a pain that wouldn't rise to the level of an emergency, 730 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: but they know they can't be turned away from an 731 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: emergency room. As a result of this, emergency rooms have 732 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: become increasingly crowded. With the massive rise in illegal immigration. 733 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: When we say illegal immigration puts a massive strain on 734 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 1: social services, this is one of the big ones. In fact, 735 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: Medicaid spending on emergency services for undocumented aliens dramatically spiked 736 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:39,240 Speaker 1: last year. Why primarily because of the California loophole. Seventy 737 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: one percent of the billions spent on emergency funding for 738 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: illegal aliens was spent in California. Spending on emergency services 739 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 1: for the undocumented just in California left from one point 740 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 1: six billion in twenty twenty three to six point four 741 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: billion in twenty twenty four. California established a state benefit 742 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: for illegals, supposedly with state money But here's where you 743 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: get the California loophole. The state classified more than half 744 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: of its increased spending on unauthorized illegal aliens as quote 745 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:27,240 Speaker 1: emergency care. Now, normally emergency care accounts for only five 746 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,360 Speaker 1: percent of health care spending. Did all of a sudden, 747 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: illegal aliens just have a terrible year and their use 748 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: of emergency care services just went up that much. No, 749 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: it's because California was clearly using Medicaid money. Remember, Medicaid 750 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,720 Speaker 1: is administered by both the states and the federal government. 751 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,439 Speaker 1: California was using its Medicaid money to provide health care 752 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: coverage for illegal aliens by wrongly classifying it as emergency 753 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: care services. This amounts to fraud. Democrats want that fraud 754 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: to be opened up again. They want that California loophole reopened. 755 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: In fact, they want more states to be able to 756 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: take advantage of it. Because remember, fourteen states, including California 757 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: and Washington, d C. Do have state funded healthcare for 758 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: illegal aliens. Democrats want to expand that as much as possible. 759 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: They're just lying about it. Dan o'donald Show, coming right back. 760 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,439 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Dan o'donald Show. It is day 761 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: two of the non shutdown shutdown insteed insted. Why is 762 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: that it's not just because nothing really shuts down during 763 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: a government shut down, but because, for the first time, 764 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: I think Democrats are a little bit panicked about whether 765 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: or not they're going to be able to play the 766 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,359 Speaker 1: same old game that they always do, just rely on 767 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: their media allies to spin their narrative and pin the 768 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,399 Speaker 1: blame for it on Republicans. Every so often you do 769 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: get one Democrat be unintentionally honest about what it really 770 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: is that they're doing with this shutdown. It is Senator 771 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: Sheldon Whitehouse on MSNBC last night saying it's actually about leverage. 772 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:49,280 Speaker 4: The conversation on the Senate floor is, well, let's negotiate 773 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 4: on that, because we know we need to move on that, 774 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 4: because our people are going to get hurt on that. 775 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: But we'd rather. 776 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 4: Negotiate with you after you've given away in your leverage. 777 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 4: So this whole shutdown, this whole Trump Republican shutdown, is 778 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,760 Speaker 4: really boiling down to them wanting to solve the problem 779 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 4: that we want to solve, but do it in a 780 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,399 Speaker 4: couple of days or a couple of weeks when we've 781 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 4: given up our negotiating leaveradge. I don't think that's the 782 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 4: kind of position that you can long stand on. 783 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 1: So just as in aside, Sheldon Whitehouse is also the 784 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 1: only human being who pronounces it leverridge. Here's the thing. 785 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: Trump has all the leverridge right now. They knew Trump, 786 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: Russ Vote, who our meeting right now? And his entire 787 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: team knew that a shutdown was almost certainly going to happen. 788 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: This is one of the things that separates the second 789 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: Trump term from the first. Where the first was marked 790 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: by chaos and confusion, this one is cold blooded, ruthless efficiency. 791 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 1: Before the shutdown started, Vote and other Trump team members 792 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 1: had every agency identify non essential functions within their departments. Now, 793 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: these would be roles that are tied to programs or 794 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 1: parts of the department that Trump and his administration deem 795 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: wasteful diversity initiatives, climate hysteria, that sort of thing. HR 796 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: and management staff have spent the past several days, if 797 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: not a week or more, drafting RIF notices. RIF stands 798 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: for Reduction in Force. HR teams then are deployed throughout 799 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: the shutdown. They're called furlough teams, and pointedly, OMB did not. 800 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: They designated HR, and they designated these furlough teams as 801 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: essential employee. Normally, you would think human Resources isn't really 802 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: necessary if nobody's at the office, and it's not something 803 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: that would be deemed an essential function. Well, weirdly enough, HR, 804 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 1: especially those furlough teams, have been deemed essential. Guess what 805 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 1: they are working on. Those furloughs, seven hundred and fifty 806 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: thousand or so, non essential employees like National Park staff, 807 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: some you know, I don't know, data crunchers at the 808 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, Economic Bureau or something like that. They get furloughed. 809 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 1: The agencies issue RIF notices for some of those employees 810 00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 1: for permanent separation because we don't have the fund to 811 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: pay you anymore. The government is shut down. Those workers 812 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: who get RIF notices, they don't get back pay. They 813 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: get severance pay perhaps, but they are simply terminated now. 814 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 1: White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said on Fox This 815 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: morning that it's entirely possible that those reductions in force 816 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: could start within two to three days, if not tomorrow, 817 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 1: after the shutdown begins. President Trump has said that he 818 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 1: wanted tens of thousands of federal employees permanently cut. There 819 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: have already been upwards of two hundred to two hundred 820 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand workers who were cut from the federal workforce, 821 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: including one hundred thousand who resigned at the end of 822 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 1: the fiscal year on Monday, September thirtieth, the single biggest 823 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: one day resignation in the history of the federal government. 824 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 1: And how about this for leverage. You can blame Democrats 825 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 1: for the shutdown and say, hey, because of their intransigence 826 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: and because they're so desperate to get health care coverage 827 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: and medicaid for illegal aliens, we simply can't afford to 828 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 1: pay you. We need to let you go because the 829 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: government needs to be more efficient, and because Democrats just 830 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: will not fund you. Of course, Democrats are going to 831 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: sue to stop this. Congress in the form of recisions, 832 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: needs to explicitly defund various programs. But in terms of 833 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: individual employees, the President, as head of the executive branch 834 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: and his Office of Management and Budget, has wide latitude 835 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: to determine how the money that Congress appropriates is actually spent. 836 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Do we really need fifty two diversity and inclusion employees 837 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 1: when well, none would suffice? But maybe two could be 838 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 1: left in place to run a slimmed down version of 839 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: the department. After all, with all that salary freed up, 840 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,919 Speaker 1: you would have more money to do more diversity and inclusion. 841 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 1: The reality is is that the leveradge here is all 842 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: with Team Trump. Because the President had as his stated 843 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: goal when he took office reducing dramatically the amount of 844 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 1: money that we're spending on redundant and ridiculous federal jobs 845 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: and federal programs. The fact that he can now use 846 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 1: this to get what he has always wanted, a dramatic 847 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: reduction in both is regardless of how this shutdown ends, 848 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 1: a serious win. While it's going on, a couple of 849 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 1: Wisconsin leaders try to use the federal shutdown to get 850 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 1: their own political goals accomplished. That's next conservative thought, not 851 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: just talk. It is the Dan o'donald Show. Governor Tony 852 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 1: Evers today asked about the federal shutdown. Reporter Matt Smith 853 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: of Channel twelve in Milwaukee asked about whether or not 854 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: he would have to do an executive order to get 855 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: healthcare coverage for everybody. He means illegals he's clearly talking 856 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 1: about it. Depend on how long this goes. Do you 857 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: anticipate any executive action you would have to take or 858 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 1: anything you'd ask the legislature to do possible. 859 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 9: I mean, there are some things that are so important 860 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 9: that we just can't wait to fill December or January, 861 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 9: so that might happen, but we're spending. We got a 862 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 9: lot of people spending a lot of time waiting for 863 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,919 Speaker 9: a response, interacting on a regular basis. 864 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Okay, just so we're all clear, Medicaid is not shut down, 865 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Medicare is not shut down. Social Security checks keep coming. 866 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:36,280 Speaker 1: Those are all mandatory spending. Those are things the government 867 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: has to spend. The government has to pay out, regardless 868 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: of whether or not it is technically open. This is 869 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: why I call it a non government non shutdown shutdown, 870 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 1: because there's so much that the government automatically has to pay, 871 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 1: and Medicaid is one of those things. In fact, Medicaid 872 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: is fully funded at the very least through the end 873 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 1: of this year. Meaning if Evers isn't talking about an 874 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:10,959 Speaker 1: executive order to ensure that illegal aliens do get their 875 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 1: Medicaid coverage, I have no idea what he's talking about here. 876 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 9: You know, if there's something that just in general, if 877 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 9: there's something that is, you know, affecting people's physical health, 878 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 9: and we need we needed to maybe use some of 879 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 9: our some of our resources here at the state level 880 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 9: to make sure people are not put in danger. That's that, 881 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 9: that's kind of a uh, that's low hanging fruit. From 882 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 9: my vantage point, we have to keep people safe and healthy. 883 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 1: Who's not safe or healthy right now? Seriously? Who who 884 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: does not have health care coverage? Right now? Everyone? Medicaid 885 01:04:55,480 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: is fully funded. Medicare is absolutely fully funded. People can 886 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 1: still get Social Security. Even illegal aliens can still present 887 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 1: at emergency rooms and they do whether or not what 888 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 1: it is they have is an emergency or not. They 889 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 1: get coverage. The hospitals get reimbursed by Medicaid. Is he 890 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 1: talking about an executive order to provide state money for 891 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Medicaid for illegals? Sure sounds like it easily though. The 892 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Wisconsin leader who has the most cynical see why a 893 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 1: move as a result of this shutdown has got to 894 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: be Melissa Agard, Dane County executive. She says, look, because 895 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 1: of Trump and those evil Republicans, she has to institute 896 01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 1: a hiring freeze for non essential positions in county government. 897 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 1: In a statement. She says, even before this shutdown, we 898 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 1: were staring down difficult fiscal realities. Costs for services and 899 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 1: infrastructure continue to climb while revenues remain flat. Now, with 900 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 1: federal dysfunction creating additional uncertainty, it would be reckless to 901 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: continue with business as usual. This is not a decision 902 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 1: I take lightly. I know the people of Dane County 903 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: depend on us to deliver essential services, and I am 904 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 1: committed to protecting those But in this moment of fiscal 905 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: stress and national uncertainty, this is the most responsible path forward. 906 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 1: She's going to go before the Dane County Board during 907 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: the meeting on October twenty third layout her hiring freeze plan. 908 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 1: There would be exemptions for positions that are critical to 909 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 1: public health, public safety, for frontline delivery service, things like that, 910 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 1: But because of Trump in those Republicans, she just has 911 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 1: no choice. Now, you might be asking yourself a very 912 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: obvious question here, right, how exactly does a federal government 913 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: shut down impact Dane County. Isn't Dane County primarily funded 914 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 1: by state tax dollars through shared revenue and county tax 915 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: dollars and fees and that sort of thing, don't you 916 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 1: think a federal government shutdown would have nothing, or at 917 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,120 Speaker 1: least very little to do with whether or not Dane 918 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 1: County can hire new people or can continue to deliver 919 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: essential services. What Agard doesn't mention is that long before 920 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 1: the federal government shut down, Dane County was facing a 921 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 1: thirty one million dollars structural deficit in its twenty twenty 922 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 1: six budget. That has nothing to do with the government 923 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 1: shutdown or Donald trumpet Republicans. It has everything to do 924 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,800 Speaker 1: with Melissa Agard and the Dane County Board spending like 925 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: drunken sailors on one unneeded program after another, one unnecessary 926 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 1: non essential salary after the next, so much so that 927 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 1: the inevitable is happening to Dane County, just as it 928 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: did to Milwaukee County. When you put Democrats in charge 929 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:34,080 Speaker 1: of a budget, it will go tilt. It is inevitable. 930 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 1: There is no other outcome. City of Milwaukee had to 931 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,759 Speaker 1: go hat in hand to the state because of overly 932 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: generous pension payments. Same thing with Milwaukee County, one of 933 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: the worst pension scandals in state history just twenty three 934 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 1: years ago. They both needed to get more state shared 935 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: revenue as well as more sales taxes to soak their 936 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 1: citizens for more money to pay for their reckless spending. 937 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Now Melissa Aguard is trying to cover her own rear 938 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,639 Speaker 1: end because she knew that she and the Dane County 939 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,639 Speaker 1: Board spent their county into oblivion. But now they've got 940 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: a convenient scapegoat, and they know all the idiot lefties 941 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 1: who comprise their voter base in Dane County will eat 942 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 1: it up. Oh yeah, it was Trump and all of 943 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,639 Speaker 1: those Republicans. They're the ones who are shutting down Dane County. 944 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,559 Speaker 1: They're the ones who aren't allowing us to hire a 945 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 1: fifteenth Chief Diversity Officer. It's because of Melissa Aguard, not 946 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, that Dane County has a thirty one million 947 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 1: dollar structural deficit. You're listening to the Dan o'donald Show, 948 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 1: a tour Deforce of truth. Welcome back to the Dan 949 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: o'donald Show at his time. Now to name the unsung 950 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:10,639 Speaker 1: hero of the DWN. Today's unsung hero of the day 951 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: is Federal Judge Nancy Joseph, who has dismissed a lawsuit 952 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 1: filed by a Waukeshaw School District teacher who claimed the 953 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:27,760 Speaker 1: district violated her First Amendment rights when it fired her. 954 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Melissa Temple, remember her, claimed her firing was in retaliation 955 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:40,919 Speaker 1: for comments she made on X. Temple was a teacher 956 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 1: at Higher Elementary School in Waukeshaw. She allowed her school 957 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 1: to sing the song rainbow Land at a spring concert 958 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 1: for first graders that, of course, is a gay anthem. 959 01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 1: She was let go. She made comments on X that 960 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: made it inevitable that she was going to be forced 961 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 1: to resign or she was going to be let go. 962 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 1: She immediately did what leftists do, and that's to file 963 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 1: a lawsuit. But judged Nancy Joseph threw out that lawsuit 964 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 1: and said that although Temple was speaking as a private 965 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 1: citizen on a matter of public concern, because her tweet 966 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:36,679 Speaker 1: disrupted the district's operations, its interests took precedence in this case. 967 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 1: It would be very easy for a judge like Nancy 968 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:44,679 Speaker 1: Joseph to take the side of the poor put upon 969 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:49,680 Speaker 1: rainbow Land teacher Melissa Temple as she was attempting to 970 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 1: indoctrinate the kids with her LGBTQIA plus minus equal sign 971 01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 1: ampersand question mark dogma. But instead she did the right thing, 972 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,960 Speaker 1: and because It was obvious, painfully obvious to those of 973 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,639 Speaker 1: us who were covering the story since it first broke 974 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:15,799 Speaker 1: that Temple was attempting to get a social media mob 975 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:21,400 Speaker 1: after Wakashaw's school district. Judge Joseph did the right thing. 976 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 1: And that's why Nancy Joseph is your unsung hero of 977 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,160 Speaker 1: the day. We will get you the unhinged liberal of 978 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 1: the day at some point in the five o'clock hour. Folks, 979 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: don't think I forgot about that. We've got a good one. 980 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Lefties are still insistent that they are able to celebrate 981 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 1: the assassination of Charlie Kirkins. It's remarkable how quickly that 982 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 1: story got out of the mainstream media, is it not. 983 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 1: It was three weeks ago yesterday that one of the 984 01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 1: most important voices in conservative media and the conservative movement 985 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 1: was silenced by a left wing assassin's bullet. And you 986 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 1: would be hard pressed to find the name Charlie Kirk 987 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 1: uttered in any mainstream media outlet. Seriously, when's the last 988 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 1: time you heard the name Charlie Kirk mentioned on CNN 989 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,479 Speaker 1: in the pages of the New York Times. Actually, they 990 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 1: just did a piece with Tanahashi Coats and Nicole Hannah Jones, 991 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 1: the author of the sixteen nineteen project, and apparently they 992 01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: determined that enough time had passed or they could start 993 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 1: ripping on Charlie Kirk as being a bigot and racist 994 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 1: and all of this an interview that Coates did. I 995 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 1: believe we were either going to play a sound bite 996 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 1: of it, and I can't actually remember if we did. 997 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,560 Speaker 1: I think I was so disgusted by that faux intellectual 998 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 1: who probably has an IQ of about eighty five but 999 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 1: is able to string a couple of words together and 1000 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:04,679 Speaker 1: leftists go gaga over his every utterance, said that, well, 1001 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:10,040 Speaker 1: it's okay to be okay with someone like Charlie Kirk 1002 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 1: getting brutally murdered and shot through the neck in front 1003 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,640 Speaker 1: of a crowd of people while he's just trying to 1004 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: calmly debate college kids because he was so hateful. I mean, 1005 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 1: he basically espoused the exact same rhetoric as Kirk's assassin. Nonetheless, 1006 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 1: coming up after the top of the hour, the president 1007 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:41,639 Speaker 1: of Turning Point at Concordia University is once again trying 1008 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:46,919 Speaker 1: to get a chapter started there, but is still after years, 1009 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 1: even after the assassination of the organization's founder just three 1010 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 1: weeks and a day ago, still running into significant opposition. Plus, 1011 01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 1: a teacher at a Middleton school has an assignment that 1012 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:08,120 Speaker 1: many students believe is marketing them, not for assassination, but 1013 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:13,720 Speaker 1: certainly for ridicule by their fellow students, and possibly for 1014 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 1: singling out by that very teacher or some of the teachers' 1015 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:24,240 Speaker 1: compatriots who don't like if the students would self identify 1016 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 1: as politically, or economically or culturally conservative. It is a 1017 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 1: story that was first broken by my friend and colleague 1018 01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Vicky McKenna. This afternoon, we are going to pick up 1019 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 1: on it right after the top of the hour news. 1020 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 1: Plus we'll check in with the Cubs and Padres in 1021 01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 1: the final game of their three game series. See who 1022 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 1: it is the Brewers are going to face on Saturday 1023 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,519 Speaker 1: as they start the divisional round of the playoffs. All 1024 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:58,519 Speaker 1: that coming up in the five o'clock hour next. Is 1025 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,799 Speaker 1: it just me or these commercial getting shorter and shorter. 1026 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,759 Speaker 1: I'm sure it doesn't feel like that for you, folks, 1027 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 1: but for me as I'm trying to get a whole 1028 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:12,879 Speaker 1: bunch of work done. And see, folks, the secret about 1029 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,559 Speaker 1: a talk radio show like this. The secret about a 1030 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,959 Speaker 1: live radio show like this is that there's always stuff 1031 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 1: that's going on. I'm always working, I'm always trying to 1032 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,880 Speaker 1: get the show better. I'm always trying to get the 1033 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,720 Speaker 1: latest news out there. I am always trying to, in 1034 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 1: other words, gets everything that you might want up up. 1035 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes that means that I am still working as I 1036 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 1: hear my theme song and scramble to put on my 1037 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 1: headphones and oh my gosh, I've actually got to do 1038 01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 1: the radio show. I've actually got a put on this 1039 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:07,559 Speaker 1: stuff that I was looking to put on a kind 1040 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 1: of remarkable story today about an assignment that one might 1041 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:21,840 Speaker 1: not think would be overly controversial actually kind of is. 1042 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: Middleton High School in Middleton, Wisconsin has a teacher who 1043 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 1: I've decided I'm not going to name because frankly, I 1044 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 1: don't know. He put out an assignment where he had 1045 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 1: all of his students put on a big board their 1046 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:53,599 Speaker 1: names and whether or not they were conservatives or liberals. 1047 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 1: We'll get to that story in just one second, and 1048 01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 1: I kind of want your thoughts on it as well. 1049 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:05,719 Speaker 1: Also at Concordia University, the head of a Turning Point 1050 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:11,879 Speaker 1: USA chapter says he still can't get one going unless 1051 01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: he pledges to do something that he just will not do. 1052 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,760 Speaker 1: That story has even reached Elon Musk. We'll get to 1053 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,719 Speaker 1: it coming up a little bit later. Also, an update 1054 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 1: on the Cubs and San Diego Padres. Do you want 1055 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,679 Speaker 1: to hear the bad news? Bottom of the third Cubs 1056 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 1: are up two to nothing. Winner of that series goes 1057 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,200 Speaker 1: on to play the Brewers. I know the Brewers have 1058 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 1: had a better record this season against Chicago than they 1059 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,640 Speaker 1: have against San Diego, and the Cubs may well be 1060 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,639 Speaker 1: a better matchup. I want them dead and buried and 1061 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 1: back home on vacation long before the Brewers would have 1062 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 1: to play them. I can handle if the Brewers lose 1063 01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,240 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I'd prefer well, I don't know, would 1064 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 1: you rather have the Brewers flame out in the divisional 1065 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,639 Speaker 1: round or in the World Series. Frankly in the divisional round, 1066 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could handle, like nineteen eighty two, 1067 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 1: going to Game seven and then losing that kind of heartbreak. Obviously, 1068 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 1: we know the Brewers are going to go all the way. 1069 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,559 Speaker 1: They're going to win the World Series based on the 1070 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:25,840 Speaker 1: power of friendship. Even though I saw a disturbing graphic on. 1071 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I think it was Facebook. You realized that since two 1072 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:35,559 Speaker 1: thousand and three, no team that has had that has 1073 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 1: finished outside of the top five in payroll has won 1074 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,559 Speaker 1: the World Series. In twenty two years, one of the 1075 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:49,000 Speaker 1: top five spending teams every single year has won the 1076 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 1: World Series. That does not fill me with a lot 1077 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,799 Speaker 1: of confidence because two of the top five spending teams 1078 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 1: are currently going to be playing each other, the Dodgers, 1079 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 1: who punched their t get to the divisional round last night, 1080 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 1: and the Philadelphia Phillies and the Brewers would have to 1081 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,760 Speaker 1: go through one of those teams in order to go 1082 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,760 Speaker 1: to the Series where they would face the Yankees if 1083 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,000 Speaker 1: they get past the Red Sox. They I believe were 1084 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,840 Speaker 1: the number one spending team in baseball. I'm not entirely sure. 1085 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,000 Speaker 1: I do know with absolute certainty the Brewers were not 1086 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 1: in the top five. We'll get into that a little 1087 01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 1: bit later on as well. Plus unhinged Liberal of the Day. Yes, 1088 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,320 Speaker 1: I know we've delayed it for about an hour and 1089 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: a half, but we will get to it. I promise, 1090 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,080 Speaker 1: Najo I keyword this hour fall fortune cash contest credit 1091 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,679 Speaker 1: CEE R E D credit. You have got until fifty 1092 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,519 Speaker 1: five passed the hour to go to our website and 1093 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 1: enter the keyword credit to enter the contest four this hour. 1094 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 1: Middleton High School has a US Government class, as most 1095 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:58,200 Speaker 1: schools do. In fact, my son just took ap US 1096 01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 1: Gov last year. Great class. I thought it was fantastic. 1097 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,639 Speaker 1: He learned all about a whole tot of Supreme Court 1098 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 1: cases and constitutional principles, the form and function of government. 1099 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:16,200 Speaker 1: It was a great class. However, at Middleton High School, 1100 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen year old kids, juniors and seniors mostly 1101 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 1: are being forced to publicly declare their allegiance to a 1102 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 1: political party as part of an assignment by one of 1103 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 1: their teachers. Both Vicky McKenna and I this morning got 1104 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:42,840 Speaker 1: an email from a concern teacher. Vicky got this up 1105 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 1: on social media and on her show very quickly, so 1106 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 1: I will give her the exclusive on this one, and 1107 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 1: it has gotten a lot of traction as well it should. 1108 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,800 Speaker 1: One of the students who wrote to us said, we 1109 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 1: had to write either a blue or red or purple 1110 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,479 Speaker 1: slip of paper. We had to put our names on it. 1111 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,120 Speaker 1: So obviously, if you're red, you're Republican, if you're blue, 1112 01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,920 Speaker 1: you're a Democrat. If you're purple. You're in the middle. 1113 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,680 Speaker 1: And then we had to write our full first and 1114 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,839 Speaker 1: last name on the front with a few other things 1115 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,880 Speaker 1: that I don't remember typical sixteen seventeen year old kid. 1116 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,280 Speaker 1: And the back you had to write about three issues 1117 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:32,960 Speaker 1: you want to resolve and why, immigration, abortion, et cetera. 1118 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 1: And then you went out into the hallway where the 1119 01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 1: big bulletin board is and we all lined up against 1120 01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,120 Speaker 1: the wall across from the board. The teacher called us 1121 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,559 Speaker 1: up one by one and we had to say our 1122 01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:51,880 Speaker 1: name and tell everyone why we want to change those 1123 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 1: things and what party we stand with. And then we 1124 01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,040 Speaker 1: had to staple our card on the other side on 1125 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 1: either side of the bulletin board, I should say on 1126 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,880 Speaker 1: the parts that you feel you aligned with. And while 1127 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,320 Speaker 1: we were walking back into the classroom not even thirty 1128 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,280 Speaker 1: minutes later, a few kids that me and my friend 1129 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:19,400 Speaker 1: believed to be seniors said, all those people are Nazis 1130 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,599 Speaker 1: while looking at my friend's paper. When we went into class, 1131 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,080 Speaker 1: my teacher asked me why I didn't participate, and I 1132 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,840 Speaker 1: told them that I didn't want to, but I didn't 1133 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,519 Speaker 1: give him much of a reason because I got nervous 1134 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,040 Speaker 1: and because it's none of his business. He said that 1135 01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,120 Speaker 1: I had to do the assignment even if it wasn't 1136 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:42,040 Speaker 1: that day. I told him I didn't want to again, 1137 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,160 Speaker 1: and he said I had to do it because it's 1138 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,600 Speaker 1: for his class. Then my friend told him that we 1139 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,479 Speaker 1: heard a kid called the Republicans Nazis, and he said 1140 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 1: that's not true. But he was kind of dry with 1141 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,839 Speaker 1: that response. I think to keep his party vote private, 1142 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,240 Speaker 1: which doesn't make sense, and it's why he will keep 1143 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,760 Speaker 1: his private. But we have to. He said it's not 1144 01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,400 Speaker 1: really a choice not to do it, and that I 1145 01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 1: would be doing it next class. The student was shaking 1146 01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,640 Speaker 1: after class because of how intimidated she felt with the 1147 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,800 Speaker 1: teacher telling us she had to do it. And then 1148 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: this student, well, an adult that was writing on behalf 1149 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,320 Speaker 1: of the student. And obviously I'm not going to use 1150 01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,080 Speaker 1: any names here. Sources are always fully protected. Took a 1151 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 1: picture of the bulletin board and you can see several 1152 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 1: dozen of these cards blue red, and it's along an 1153 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 1: X and a Y axis. There is socially liberal to 1154 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:52,080 Speaker 1: socially conservative on the horizontal access, and on the vertical 1155 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:57,960 Speaker 1: access there is fiscally conservative and fiscally liberal. Now the 1156 01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:04,639 Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of the studentdance, as you could imagine in 1157 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:10,560 Speaker 1: in in Middleton, are blue. So along the horizontal access 1158 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,960 Speaker 1: on the Democrat side, there is at the far left 1159 01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:23,719 Speaker 1: the progressive left, then establishment liberals, then Democratic main stays, 1160 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:32,559 Speaker 1: and then the outsider left. On the Republican axis there 1161 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,800 Speaker 1: is the and you go farther and farther conservative. Now 1162 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 1: I would have gone with at the far left of 1163 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:45,840 Speaker 1: the axis political assassins and Tesla firebombers, but I guess 1164 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:51,520 Speaker 1: progressive liberals would be okay too. You have the ambivalent 1165 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:56,880 Speaker 1: right closest to the middle, then you have the populist right. 1166 01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 1: Then you have constitutional conservative, and then you have faith 1167 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:07,400 Speaker 1: and flag conservative. Did this teacher just make these things up? 1168 01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 1: I have never heard of a faith and flag conservative, 1169 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 1: And if anything, the populist conservatives are far closer to 1170 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:21,880 Speaker 1: the middle the ambivalent right. There is one kid who 1171 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 1: is my absolute favorite. Everybody is sort of grouped towards 1172 01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,719 Speaker 1: the middle. There is one kid who put his sticker 1173 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:36,960 Speaker 1: at the farthest possible right for fiscal conservative and social conservative. 1174 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 1: I want to know who that kid is, because I'm 1175 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,760 Speaker 1: getting him like some Dan O'Donnell's show. Merch inviting him 1176 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,679 Speaker 1: to sit in on the show. That's my kind of kid. 1177 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,639 Speaker 1: Loud and proud. You are hard right and young man, 1178 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:56,519 Speaker 1: I salute you. Of course, nobody out well, there were 1179 01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:01,400 Speaker 1: a couple who put themselves way out on the far left, 1180 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:08,800 Speaker 1: but this strikes me as being very inappropriate. Now I 1181 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,000 Speaker 1: understand what the teacher is doing here, I really do. 1182 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 1: I truly do, because it's a focal point for discussion. Okay, 1183 01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,920 Speaker 1: here are the issues that you want to see solved. 1184 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 1: Here are the issues that you care about. I don't 1185 01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,960 Speaker 1: believe that this was an attempt to brand the kids 1186 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 1: with a scarlet letter A I truly don't. Why the 1187 01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,600 Speaker 1: hell did they have to put their names on it. 1188 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,040 Speaker 1: We are in an era where sadly, you can be 1189 01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:45,559 Speaker 1: even marked for death if you speak out about your 1190 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,839 Speaker 1: political views. Don't believe me. It happened on a college 1191 01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 1: campus three weeks and a day ago. Making those kids 1192 01:27:54,120 --> 01:28:00,240 Speaker 1: in an obviously overwhelmingly left wing school and left wing 1193 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 1: district identify themselves as conservatives quite literally, giving themselves a 1194 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:16,559 Speaker 1: scarlet letter is the height of foolishness. I think this 1195 01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:22,680 Speaker 1: assignment is incredibly inappropriate, and I'm wondering what the proper 1196 01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 1: consequences should be here four one, four seven, nine to 1197 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:31,479 Speaker 1: nine eleven thirty. That is the ADVENTNOS dot com talk 1198 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:36,960 Speaker 1: and text line. First of all, we will be by 1199 01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,720 Speaker 1: the way taking your calls and your texts, probably over 1200 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,280 Speaker 1: the next ten minutes or so, because I do want 1201 01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,600 Speaker 1: to get to this Concordias story. I've also got some 1202 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,920 Speaker 1: other stuff I wanted to get to as well. Before 1203 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,040 Speaker 1: we say goodbye on this beautiful Thursday evening, I've got 1204 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,000 Speaker 1: to run over to the Ingle side and chat with 1205 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:58,240 Speaker 1: Governor Walker. Am I going to have to identify myself 1206 01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,840 Speaker 1: as a conservative before I go in? Am I going 1207 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,759 Speaker 1: to have to put dan O'Donnell in bright red letters 1208 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 1: and like stick it on my forehead so everybody in 1209 01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 1: the world knows who I am and knows what I 1210 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:21,559 Speaker 1: believe without more context here, And frankly, folks, I did 1211 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,599 Speaker 1: not have time. I guarantee I was going to get 1212 01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,880 Speaker 1: just a rote response from Middleton High School. And this 1213 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:31,120 Speaker 1: wasn't really my story, it was Vicky's, so I kind 1214 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,640 Speaker 1: of didn't spend a ton of time getting it. Like 1215 01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,599 Speaker 1: I understand where the teacher is coming from. Okay, we're 1216 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,680 Speaker 1: going to take a look at these issues, and you 1217 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 1: might think that this issue is actually on the left, 1218 01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:47,680 Speaker 1: actually on the right. Here's the thing. Knowing what I 1219 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:52,600 Speaker 1: know about government class, the US government class, do you 1220 01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,960 Speaker 1: know how much? Now My kids go to a school 1221 01:29:55,040 --> 01:30:01,280 Speaker 1: district that is remarkably well run, and the teacher just 1222 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,559 Speaker 1: happens to well, you know what. I'm not going to 1223 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:10,240 Speaker 1: out her, but let's just say she would periodically ask 1224 01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:14,200 Speaker 1: my son how her dad was, how his dad was doing, 1225 01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,439 Speaker 1: because you know, she listened every now and again. She 1226 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,439 Speaker 1: didn't want to say nothing, but you know she listened. 1227 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,439 Speaker 1: I don't recall any sort and you'd better believe my 1228 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,240 Speaker 1: kid would tell me if this is, you know, what 1229 01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:30,280 Speaker 1: they were learning. They were learning about US government. They 1230 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,840 Speaker 1: would talk about issues, to be sure, but it was 1231 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,320 Speaker 1: never about left or right. It was always within the 1232 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,680 Speaker 1: context and the framework of the actual course, which is 1233 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,000 Speaker 1: to learn about US government. If you want to teach 1234 01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:46,280 Speaker 1: a current events class, that's just fine. And frankly, I 1235 01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:52,320 Speaker 1: have no problem even with a left wing teacher teaching 1236 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:56,720 Speaker 1: things from a left wing perspective. Okay, I am obviously 1237 01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,400 Speaker 1: if I go into a classroom and I go to 1238 01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,479 Speaker 1: teach a current events class, I'm going to do my 1239 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,639 Speaker 1: best to try to present both sides of the issue. 1240 01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,599 Speaker 1: But I am a conservative, Okay, I also have a 1241 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:11,719 Speaker 1: fully functioning frontal lobe, so I couldn't possibly be teaching 1242 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,720 Speaker 1: things from a left wing perspective. That's who I am. 1243 01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 1: When you get to a point though, where you are proselytizing, 1244 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:26,160 Speaker 1: you are just getting up there and spewing, you know, indoctrination. 1245 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,479 Speaker 1: That's where it gets to a point. I don't believe 1246 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 1: that this teacher truly, truly, I do not believe that 1247 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,599 Speaker 1: that was the point of this exercise. I also don't 1248 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,439 Speaker 1: believe the point of it was to single these kids out, 1249 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:41,480 Speaker 1: but it did have that effect, and that effect, especially 1250 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,519 Speaker 1: in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination, when kids 1251 01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:48,439 Speaker 1: can be singled out and bullied over pretty much anything, 1252 01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:53,479 Speaker 1: why force them to put their names on something and 1253 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,720 Speaker 1: to publicly declare their allegiance. There's a reason that we 1254 01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,680 Speaker 1: have a secret balance in this country, and it's to 1255 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:04,280 Speaker 1: prove event this exact sort of nonsense. Let's go out 1256 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:08,040 Speaker 1: to the phones and talk first with Steve and New Berlin. Steve, 1257 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,720 Speaker 1: what's kracking? You are? Up first on the Dan o'donald Show. 1258 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:13,360 Speaker 10: Does it even move anything? 1259 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 1: Okay? 1260 01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,560 Speaker 2: Is the window open on it? No? 1261 01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:25,400 Speaker 1: Steve? Is everything going? Okay? I think I think we've Steve. 1262 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,240 Speaker 2: Are we interrupting to shake the. 1263 01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,200 Speaker 1: Okay? This this is way more entertaining than the Dan 1264 01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:39,599 Speaker 1: o'donald show. I gotta say, oh no. It sounded like 1265 01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 1: Steve was having car trouble. He said, you gotta pop 1266 01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:48,320 Speaker 1: the hood? Did he stop to uh rescue a motorist 1267 01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:54,559 Speaker 1: in distress? Honest? The goodest producer, Eric, you're screening, calls 1268 01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:58,000 Speaker 1: in there. Steve was completely distracted. He was talking to 1269 01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,000 Speaker 1: someone else. It sounded like his wife and they either 1270 01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,599 Speaker 1: were having car trouble or he had stopped to help somebody. 1271 01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,960 Speaker 1: Say you gotta pop the hood on this? I think 1272 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,719 Speaker 1: he was trying to like give somebody a jump or something. 1273 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,960 Speaker 1: All right, wait, Steve, whatever's going on? You call back 1274 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:18,080 Speaker 1: and tell us that you're okay? Okay, Steve? Please? You 1275 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,679 Speaker 1: know what I really hope didn't happen? Is I really 1276 01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,439 Speaker 1: hope he wasn't talking to you, producer Eric, and he 1277 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,839 Speaker 1: got into a fender bender because he wasn't totally paying attention. 1278 01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 1: The god, I know, the line just went dead, all right? 1279 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,360 Speaker 1: Eric in Greenfield. You didn't just get into a collision 1280 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,559 Speaker 1: with a dude from New Berlin, did you? You're safe? 1281 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,800 Speaker 1: I know I did not. Okay, good? What do you 1282 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,240 Speaker 1: think about this? Not Steve's situation, but what's going on 1283 01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:45,160 Speaker 1: in Middleton? Yeah? 1284 01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like I'm sitting comfortably on my coat. 1285 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:56,360 Speaker 1: Okay, good? Oh god? Are you no? No? No, you're 1286 01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:59,080 Speaker 1: not getting sick now, are you? You're not going to 1287 01:33:59,120 --> 01:33:59,719 Speaker 1: start having. 1288 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:00,120 Speaker 2: An ass. 1289 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:02,120 Speaker 1: Okay? 1290 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:03,719 Speaker 2: Something? They need to give me a I'm. 1291 01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:08,200 Speaker 1: Like, oh now, this is the worst time to go 1292 01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:12,719 Speaker 1: to callers. Everybody's dying on man, right, all right, Steve, 1293 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:13,320 Speaker 1: what do you got? 1294 01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:13,680 Speaker 11: You know? 1295 01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:16,280 Speaker 2: Actually I'm Eric or Eric? 1296 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry Eric. Eric. 1297 01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:23,200 Speaker 2: You remember back like in the early days of you know, 1298 01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:27,800 Speaker 2: East Berlin and this and that, where you know, you 1299 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,160 Speaker 2: had to rat on your neighbor and they had kids, 1300 01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,800 Speaker 2: you know, ratting their parents out, you know, you know, 1301 01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:38,640 Speaker 2: if they didn't you know, abide by you know, the 1302 01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:42,200 Speaker 2: rural you know, and then the and the other point 1303 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:46,480 Speaker 2: I gotta make is what is there a policy about bullying? 1304 01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,519 Speaker 1: I would imagine, I mean hee. 1305 01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,559 Speaker 2: I'd like to see that, you know, And it's like, 1306 01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,519 Speaker 2: wouldn't this be a form of bullying. 1307 01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it certainly could be. I mean, 1308 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:06,360 Speaker 1: the teacher just hounding this student and saying, Okay, you 1309 01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 1: have to take part in this. You have to take 1310 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,160 Speaker 1: part in this, you know to me? And maybe it's 1311 01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,559 Speaker 1: because I don't know, I'm just sort of thinking this through. 1312 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,920 Speaker 1: If a student comes to me with concerns and says, 1313 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, mister O'Donnell, I really don't feel comfortable. You know, 1314 01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,760 Speaker 1: my friend they called her Nazi, I just I don't 1315 01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,960 Speaker 1: want to do it. What I would say is, oh, okay, 1316 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,040 Speaker 1: I totally get that. Just write down the issues and 1317 01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,519 Speaker 1: don't put your name on it, and then you know, 1318 01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,559 Speaker 1: I might have That might have actually gotten me thinking, hey, 1319 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,599 Speaker 1: maybe it's a really bad idea to have a bunch 1320 01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:44,000 Speaker 1: of kids publicly declare their political allegiance. But that's just me. 1321 01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:49,639 Speaker 1: In terms of the bullying from the teacher, I don't 1322 01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:53,120 Speaker 1: think it quite rises to the level of that. I 1323 01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:58,160 Speaker 1: think it's more likely an issue of a teacher just 1324 01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:03,559 Speaker 1: not quite under standing the ramifications of what he's making 1325 01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:08,080 Speaker 1: his students do and the intransigence that just digging in 1326 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,439 Speaker 1: the heels. When you say a student comes to you 1327 01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,920 Speaker 1: and says, well, you know, I don't feel comfortable doing this. 1328 01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,200 Speaker 1: This is not something that I really feel comfortable with. 1329 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:23,240 Speaker 1: I just struggle to see what the value is outside 1330 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:28,240 Speaker 1: of knowing what your student's political leanings are in making 1331 01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:32,400 Speaker 1: them publicly declare them. Let's go to another Eric, this 1332 01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:36,760 Speaker 1: one in Hartford. You are on the Dan O'Donnell show. 1333 01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:37,640 Speaker 1: Eric what's going on? 1334 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,120 Speaker 11: Hey, Dan, thanks for having me on. I just I 1335 01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,400 Speaker 11: agree with you. I can understand what the teacher's trying 1336 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,000 Speaker 11: to do and maybe force the conversation, get people to 1337 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 11: talk about issues in a positive way in a structured environment. 1338 01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:54,320 Speaker 11: But at the same time, you know that opens people up, 1339 01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,680 Speaker 11: especially with the violence of the people that. 1340 01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:58,920 Speaker 2: Are on the left. 1341 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't want that kind of speech. The implication, 1342 01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,719 Speaker 11: could you know it could be somebody in that school 1343 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,200 Speaker 11: might be disturbed. It opens them up to maybe being 1344 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:10,280 Speaker 11: at the top of that list. 1345 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,759 Speaker 1: Right, Well, okay, let's how about let's let's let's let's 1346 01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:17,439 Speaker 1: put it this way. Let's put it this way. Let's 1347 01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,800 Speaker 1: say the the issue was on I mean l G 1348 01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:23,800 Speaker 1: B t Q I A plus minus ampersand exclamation point 1349 01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:30,240 Speaker 1: rights are always right, They're always they're always front and center. Right, 1350 01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:35,680 Speaker 1: Let's say that this teacher had instead of red and 1351 01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:40,840 Speaker 1: blue stickers every color of the rainbow. And if you 1352 01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,200 Speaker 1: were pink, that meant you were gay. If you were yellow, 1353 01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:49,000 Speaker 1: that meant you were CIS. If you are purple, you're trans. 1354 01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:53,439 Speaker 1: If you're green your pan sexual. And you had to 1355 01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:58,840 Speaker 1: publicly declare your sexuality right, and you had to declare 1356 01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:03,400 Speaker 1: what LGP t Q I A plus minus pound sign 1357 01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:08,920 Speaker 1: percentage sign issues matter to you most that everybody would 1358 01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:15,240 Speaker 1: agree that's completely inappropriate. You're forcing these kids to out themselves. Well, 1359 01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:20,560 Speaker 1: why is it? Why is it acceptable for political affiliation? 1360 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,479 Speaker 1: And the reality is is that, Oh, I'm sorry, Eric, 1361 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to as many callers as we 1362 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,639 Speaker 1: can here because I'm looking atway We're almost at five 1363 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:33,400 Speaker 1: thirty ra as a fascinating discussion, and I want to 1364 01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:38,000 Speaker 1: get a couple of more people into it. It is. 1365 01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:43,920 Speaker 1: It is much less likely now, especially at a school 1366 01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,879 Speaker 1: like Middleton, that a kid is going to be bullied 1367 01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:51,599 Speaker 1: for their sexual identity because the consequences of doing so 1368 01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:57,400 Speaker 1: are so swift and so harsh. You know, you you 1369 01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:01,160 Speaker 1: call a student a slang term for a gay person, 1370 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:06,280 Speaker 1: you are probably looking at expulsion. You can, however, probably 1371 01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,559 Speaker 1: with impunity, believe someone over their political beliefs, call them 1372 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:14,639 Speaker 1: a Nazi or something like that. And I guess I 1373 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:19,720 Speaker 1: just really have an issue with a teacher opening up, 1374 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,640 Speaker 1: even if it was unintentional. Even if it was unintentional, 1375 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,559 Speaker 1: and frankly, folks, absent any evidence that I have that 1376 01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:31,920 Speaker 1: this teacher is just a vindictive far left jag who 1377 01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,760 Speaker 1: wants to target his students, I'm going to assume that 1378 01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:39,120 Speaker 1: the teacher is probably a lib. But I have no idea. 1379 01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:43,360 Speaker 1: The teacher wants to have a discussion about issues and 1380 01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:45,679 Speaker 1: wants to show the kids. Okay, well, here's the political 1381 01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:49,360 Speaker 1: breakdown of our class. Here's what are the issues that 1382 01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,439 Speaker 1: matter most of the people who identify themselves as progressive left. 1383 01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:54,479 Speaker 1: I can actually see the thought process here, and I 1384 01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,519 Speaker 1: actually don't think it's a bad assignment. I just have 1385 01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:02,519 Speaker 1: a big issue with kids having to put their names 1386 01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:06,000 Speaker 1: on it. If you're concerned about kids not taking part 1387 01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:09,080 Speaker 1: in the assignment, we'll have them write down a quick 1388 01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,840 Speaker 1: little essay regarding their responses and turn it in Just 1389 01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,960 Speaker 1: to you. You're listening to the Dan o'donald show. When 1390 01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,200 Speaker 1: we come back. Why is it so hard to start 1391 01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:29,040 Speaker 1: a Turning Point USA chapter at Concordia University get in 1392 01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:32,880 Speaker 1: discussion about that Middleton school assignment. A number of people 1393 01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,800 Speaker 1: I was reading the text comments said I was going 1394 01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:42,879 Speaker 1: too easy on that teacher. Maybe I guess I without 1395 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:47,840 Speaker 1: compelling evidence that this was vindictive in nature, I just 1396 01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:52,679 Speaker 1: I can't leap to that conclusion. We will see how 1397 01:40:52,800 --> 01:41:00,360 Speaker 1: Middleton responds. Concordia University, however, has found itself the target 1398 01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:04,839 Speaker 1: of some very negative social media buzz as a post 1399 01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:10,760 Speaker 1: from Jacob Turner, the Turning Point USA Chapter President at 1400 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:16,800 Speaker 1: Concordia has gone viral, with even Elon Musk responding to it. 1401 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,639 Speaker 1: He says, for two years I fought to get our 1402 01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:26,439 Speaker 1: Turning Point Chapter recognized. Bureaucracy and stonewalling made me give 1403 01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:30,200 Speaker 1: up at one point, But after Charlie's passing, I found 1404 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 1: a fire that I never felt before. There's a real 1405 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:38,679 Speaker 1: revival happening on my campus. So I resubmitted our chapter 1406 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,200 Speaker 1: for approval to carry out Charlie's vision of a Turning 1407 01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:46,680 Speaker 1: Point chapter on every college campus. The university made it 1408 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:52,400 Speaker 1: clear that they will deny us again. Why because I 1409 01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:57,760 Speaker 1: won't publicly denounce the Professor watch List, an educational tool 1410 01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:03,200 Speaker 1: that lets students know who the Marxist professors are so 1411 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:07,960 Speaker 1: they can plan their courseload accordingly. Let me be absolutely clear, 1412 01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,360 Speaker 1: I will not denounce the watch list. I will not 1413 01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:14,160 Speaker 1: be silenced. I will not let Charlie's legacy die on 1414 01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:19,400 Speaker 1: this campus. This isn't just about TPUSA, It's about truth 1415 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:27,559 Speaker 1: and freedom, all right. What is the professor watch List? 1416 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,479 Speaker 1: It is a very very well known service that Turning 1417 01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:38,080 Speaker 1: Point provides for college kids that just identifies who the 1418 01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:43,720 Speaker 1: radical left wing professors are. Conservative students are therefore advised 1419 01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:47,639 Speaker 1: to beware if you speak your mind in this class, 1420 01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,040 Speaker 1: you could be punished, you could get a bad grade, 1421 01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:57,680 Speaker 1: you could face ostracism, whatever. So professorwatchlist dot org is 1422 01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:03,240 Speaker 1: an invaluable tool for anybody who just wants to make 1423 01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:08,920 Speaker 1: sure that their professor isn't a crazy person who is 1424 01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:13,480 Speaker 1: going to flunk them just because they disagree with their worldview. 1425 01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:20,679 Speaker 1: Seems pretty fine to me, taken a wild guess, if 1426 01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:26,080 Speaker 1: there was a right wing hate radio watch list out 1427 01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:29,680 Speaker 1: there that some lefty put out, I would find myself 1428 01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,519 Speaker 1: on it and I can do about that. What else? 1429 01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:39,280 Speaker 1: Just own it? Concordia profs. They obviously don't want this 1430 01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:43,559 Speaker 1: because a whole lot of the Concordia University student body 1431 01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:46,559 Speaker 1: are conservatives. I am told it is one of the 1432 01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:51,599 Speaker 1: more conservative student bodies in Wisconsin because it is a 1433 01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:58,000 Speaker 1: Christian school. It's a Lutheran school, right, producer, Eric, we 1434 01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,040 Speaker 1: look that up. Concordia is a Lutheran school. Lutheran maybe, 1435 01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:04,720 Speaker 1: now watch, I'm going to get a whole bunch of 1436 01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,800 Speaker 1: angry Catholics saying, what are you there, Concordia. No, I'm 1437 01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:12,000 Speaker 1: fairly certain it's a Lutheran school. So you get a 1438 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:15,760 Speaker 1: whole lot of conservative students. And obviously was I right? 1439 01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:20,240 Speaker 1: It was it? Yeah, Lutheran. Okay, not that it really matters. 1440 01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:23,840 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I'm accurate here if 1441 01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:31,160 Speaker 1: Jacob is correct, And he included some documentation that he 1442 01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:40,479 Speaker 1: says is from a number of these faculty that one 1443 01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:46,880 Speaker 1: of the faculty concerns. So in a document that Jacob 1444 01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:53,120 Speaker 1: had shared on social media, it is section one Faculty Concerns. 1445 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,720 Speaker 1: TPUSA at Concordia University will encourage students to follow the 1446 01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,679 Speaker 1: procedures outlined in the university catalog when it pressing concerns 1447 01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:05,680 Speaker 1: or conflicts with faculty members. Section two Civil Discourse TPUSA 1448 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,720 Speaker 1: will promote civil, respectful discourse and dialogue and alignment with 1449 01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,759 Speaker 1: cuw's mission and values of Christ's centered truth and integrity 1450 01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:15,320 Speaker 1: excellence in service by fostering critical thinking and respectful engagement 1451 01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:19,080 Speaker 1: on relevant topics. Well that's rather ironic. Who do you 1452 01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:24,599 Speaker 1: suppose was fostering civil, respectful discourse and dialogue during Charlie 1453 01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:28,840 Speaker 1: Kirk's visit to Utah Valley University? Was it Charlie Kirk 1454 01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,400 Speaker 1: and Turning Point USA or was it the guy who 1455 01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:40,040 Speaker 1: shot him in the neck. One of the faculty concerns 1456 01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:47,120 Speaker 1: that was added on September thirtieth, so two days ago 1457 01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:51,400 Speaker 1: at three point fifty seven pm and sent over to 1458 01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:58,120 Speaker 1: Jacob was local chapter of TPUSA does not endorse the 1459 01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 1: professor watch. Then there is another one. It was must 1460 01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:10,479 Speaker 1: be stronger language, something specific about the professor watch list. 1461 01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:15,880 Speaker 1: So clearly the faculty is concerned that the faculty would 1462 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:19,720 Speaker 1: be outed as a bunch of left wing radicals, and 1463 01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:25,720 Speaker 1: they don't want Concordia University's Chapter of Turning Point usay 1464 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:29,080 Speaker 1: outing them as the insane radicals that they are. So 1465 01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:34,360 Speaker 1: what is their solution to shut down the chapter unless 1466 01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:41,200 Speaker 1: they refuse to use the professor watch list. This is 1467 01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:46,240 Speaker 1: such classic liberalism. And on this I will not give 1468 01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:50,960 Speaker 1: Concordia University the benefit of the doubt, because it's right 1469 01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:55,800 Speaker 1: there in writing. We need these people to publicly denounce 1470 01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:59,320 Speaker 1: the professor watch list. They cannot use this, they cannot 1471 01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:03,200 Speaker 1: endorse this. They cannot say to their members, hey, don't 1472 01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,519 Speaker 1: go to professor Jenkins because he's a foaming at the 1473 01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,320 Speaker 1: mouth commie who will fail you if you even say 1474 01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:15,920 Speaker 1: the word trump without adding must die after it. This 1475 01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:20,559 Speaker 1: is such classic liberalism, is it not. You either do 1476 01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:24,280 Speaker 1: what we say or we will silence you. We won't 1477 01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:28,760 Speaker 1: allow you to organize. Now, Concordia University is a private university, 1478 01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:32,800 Speaker 1: so the principles of freedom of association don't technically apply 1479 01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,200 Speaker 1: from a constitutional sense as they would at say, a 1480 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:42,200 Speaker 1: UW State school. UW could not prevent students from associating 1481 01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:46,519 Speaker 1: as a Turning Point USA club by saying in order 1482 01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:50,320 Speaker 1: to do so, you must adhere to this speech code 1483 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:54,799 Speaker 1: and you must publicly denounce what we say. You must denounce. 1484 01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,800 Speaker 1: But this is along those same lines of a shutting 1485 01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:03,040 Speaker 1: down of free expression. And free association by a conservative 1486 01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:09,320 Speaker 1: organization because the powers that be in liberalism just can't handle. 1487 01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,920 Speaker 1: Not that they would be tart, not that they would 1488 01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:17,160 Speaker 1: be shot through the neck like the founder of Turning 1489 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:20,639 Speaker 1: Point USA was on a college campus three weeks ago. 1490 01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,080 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, that they would just be 1491 01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:32,600 Speaker 1: identified as liberals and warned against two other conservative minded students. 1492 01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:35,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Dan o'donald show. We are running 1493 01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:39,639 Speaker 1: way late, so we are way overdue for a commercial break. 1494 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:41,840 Speaker 1: They'll have no fear. The Dan o'donald's show will be 1495 01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:46,200 Speaker 1: back before you know it. Thanks to loyal listeners Josh 1496 01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:50,880 Speaker 1: and Kurt for pointing out that it is the Missouri 1497 01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:56,800 Speaker 1: Synod that is Concordia University. They are Missouri Synod Lutheranism, 1498 01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:03,759 Speaker 1: not Well's Lutheran. There's a difference. I don't know. I'm Catholic, 1499 01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,679 Speaker 1: I have I have no idea. There's just like there's 1500 01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:11,400 Speaker 1: one brand of Catholic. I don't know, guilt guilt ridden Catholic. 1501 01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:14,760 Speaker 1: That's very good, producer, Eric. There's just there's one type 1502 01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:17,640 Speaker 1: of Catholic. It is it is guilt ridden. There's no 1503 01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:20,720 Speaker 1: other type of Catholic. All right, Two hours late, but 1504 01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:23,200 Speaker 1: we did get to it in the perfect time too, 1505 01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:27,240 Speaker 1: because we were just talking about turning point us a 1506 01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,799 Speaker 1: being shut down in an attempt to start a chapter 1507 01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:36,160 Speaker 1: at Concordia University. And now we have a Massachusetts state 1508 01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:41,480 Speaker 1: employee who just couldn't help himself in talking about Charlie. 1509 01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:54,760 Speaker 10: Kirkman's dangerous because he's evil. 1510 01:49:56,080 --> 01:50:04,879 Speaker 1: America. Today's one hinge liberal of the day is Talbot W. Swan. 1511 01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:08,280 Speaker 1: He is a member of the Official Massachusetts Hate Crime 1512 01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:14,320 Speaker 1: Task Force who was on his podcast saying that, well, 1513 01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:17,160 Speaker 1: he can't believe all of the black people who are 1514 01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,160 Speaker 1: out there mourning Charlie kirk. 1515 01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:23,040 Speaker 12: We're not going to celebrate it, but you're not going 1516 01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:29,240 Speaker 12: to gaslight us into mourning him either. And I'm troubled 1517 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:32,720 Speaker 12: by the number of black people who are all over 1518 01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:37,160 Speaker 12: the internet mourning a white supremacist who thought you were 1519 01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:38,080 Speaker 12: less than human. 1520 01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:43,639 Speaker 1: I had to do a whole lot of. 1521 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,240 Speaker 12: Blocking of people on social media because I didn't realize 1522 01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:49,680 Speaker 12: we had as many coons as we have. 1523 01:50:50,880 --> 01:51:00,799 Speaker 1: So, uh, not sure using racially derogatory language is something 1524 01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:04,439 Speaker 1: that a member of the Official Massachusetts Hate Crime Task 1525 01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,479 Speaker 1: Force should be doing. But what I do know is 1526 01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:15,360 Speaker 1: Talbot w. Swan is your unhinged liberal of the day. 1527 01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:19,559 Speaker 1: Time for a quick update. We are in the top 1528 01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:23,919 Speaker 1: of the sixth as the San Diego Padres are still 1529 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:28,160 Speaker 1: not on the board. The Cubs are pitching a shutout. 1530 01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,680 Speaker 1: They are winning this game two to nothing. The Padres 1531 01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,519 Speaker 1: do have a runner on first base with one out. 1532 01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:40,200 Speaker 1: So far, the Cubs have gone into their bullpen, and 1533 01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:45,960 Speaker 1: this is a bullpen game as both teams, the Padres 1534 01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:53,680 Speaker 1: have thrown up one, two, three, four pitchers, including you Darvish, 1535 01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:59,280 Speaker 1: the starter, longtime Major leaguer, and the Cubs. I mentioned 1536 01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,000 Speaker 1: this because we want both of them to go real 1537 01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:05,840 Speaker 1: deep into their bullpen because day after tomorrow they had 1538 01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,000 Speaker 1: to Milwaukee to take on the Brewers in Game one 1539 01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:13,080 Speaker 1: of the Divisional Series. And after a double play, the 1540 01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:17,120 Speaker 1: sixth inning is over and the Cubs get out of 1541 01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,920 Speaker 1: at bottom of the sixth, coming up, producer, Eric, you 1542 01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:23,960 Speaker 1: had something to add, Oh you were you were? 1543 01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:24,120 Speaker 2: No? 1544 01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:26,280 Speaker 1: I said the inning, I said, top of the sixth 1545 01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:30,400 Speaker 1: You you didn't hear that. Well, it's a good thing 1546 01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:33,800 Speaker 1: that you're producing this show. So we've got a lot 1547 01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:38,680 Speaker 1: of quality control here on the Dan o'donald's show. What 1548 01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,680 Speaker 1: do you think should we take another break here and 1549 01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:42,559 Speaker 1: come back to wrap it up, or should we just 1550 01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,840 Speaker 1: go to should we just should we just end it 1551 01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,479 Speaker 1: early because we've got like a minute and a half 1552 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,080 Speaker 1: away from the end of the year. We got we 1553 01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:53,439 Speaker 1: got one more commercial break. I'll leave it up to you. 1554 01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,519 Speaker 1: It does now we're a minute five, all right, let's 1555 01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,400 Speaker 1: just we're just gonna end the show a little early 1556 01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:00,639 Speaker 1: here because we do have commercials to So we're gonna 1557 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,080 Speaker 1: end at five fifty five, which is good because I've 1558 01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,840 Speaker 1: got a change into a suit to head out to 1559 01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:08,920 Speaker 1: the Ingleside Hotel. We're doing a fireside chat with the 1560 01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:13,080 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Forum. Former Governor Scott Walker and I are going 1561 01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:18,080 Speaker 1: to talk about a whole bunch of events. I apologize. 1562 01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't believe tickets are available. I believe you had 1563 01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:25,439 Speaker 1: to get those in advance, so I know. I know 1564 01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:28,479 Speaker 1: there are so many people who are just clamoring to 1565 01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:32,760 Speaker 1: see me. Well, really more Scott Walker. I'm actually looking 1566 01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,240 Speaker 1: forward to seeing Scott too. I haven't seen him, boy, 1567 01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:38,680 Speaker 1: I have not seen Scott in person. We've had him 1568 01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,479 Speaker 1: on the show a couple of times, but via the phone. 1569 01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,479 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him in a good long time, so 1570 01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:46,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be good to catch up with him. 1571 01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 1: It's going to be a whole lot of fun. And 1572 01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,360 Speaker 1: you better believe I am going to be putting on 1573 01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:55,639 Speaker 1: WGN radio or whatever station the Cubs play on now. 1574 01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:59,160 Speaker 1: Is it still WGN? I think so. And I am 1575 01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:02,519 Speaker 1: going to be following that game very very closely. I 1576 01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,679 Speaker 1: am rooting very hard for the Padres to come back 1577 01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:09,479 Speaker 1: because I do not want the Cubs to beat the Brewerks. 1578 01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,200 Speaker 1: All right, out of time. Talk to you tomorrow on 1579 01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:12,240 Speaker 1: The Dan O'Donnell Show.