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Speaker 1: It's nice with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, welcome on. And it is Monday, I mean Monday,

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Speaker 3: a rainy, cloudy, gray Monday, all up and down New England.

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Speaker 3: But I want to thank my good friend Professor Greg

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Speaker 3: Staller from Boston University, the question From School of Business.

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Speaker 3: Had an opportunity to spend an hour and a half

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Speaker 3: or so this afternoon with about twenty five really bright,

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Speaker 3: really bright Boston University School, Boston University students at the

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Speaker 3: Questrom School of Business. They were all undergraduates, but the

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Speaker 3: course is taught by Greg Staller, and had a chance

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Speaker 3: to interact with them kids from literally all over the world.

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Speaker 3: I mean China, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Greece, New York, New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: I mean they were from everywhere. And what an impressive

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Speaker 3: the afternoon as much as most of the afternoon, a

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Speaker 3: wanted to acknowledge that. And we have really two major

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Speaker 3: the talk segments which we will talk which we will

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Speaker 3: talk with you about you. I'm an opportunity to call

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Speaker 3: in love to hear from folks who maybe have had

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Speaker 3: a snag at the airport. What it has been like.

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Speaker 3: Just watching these lines at airport's frightening. I mean, going

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Speaker 3: without pace since the TSA workers since February fourteenth.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 3: We'll also talk about the stock market hit a pretty

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Speaker 3: good day to day, pretty much on some comments that

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Speaker 3: President Trump made that suggests that maybe maybe there's some

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Speaker 2: that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: But first up, we have four interesting guests and four

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Speaker 3: a representative of the American Cancer Society. The American Cancer Society,

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Speaker 3: going to talk about a push that is being made

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Speaker 3: in a number of states now, including Massachusetts, for insurance

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Speaker 3: companies to pay for biomarker testing coverage. Mark, Welcome to

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Speaker 4: How are you, sir, I'm great, Thanks for having me dain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of a complicated story a little bit, but

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you can simplify it for us. First of all,

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Speaker 3: what exactly is bio marker testing. Explain to us what

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Speaker 3: that is, what it accomplishes, and why it's so important.

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Speaker 4: The biomarkers are functions in our body. They're found in

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Speaker 4: blood and tissue that can tell a story and tell

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Speaker 4: a physician that certain treatments for a patient, whether they're

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Speaker 4: So more and more these days, progress and improving cancer

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Speaker 4: outcomes increasingly involves the use of precision medicine, which uses

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Speaker 4: information about a person's own genes or proteins to prevent, diagnose,

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Speaker 4: things like that. More and more, though through incredible research,

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Speaker 4: much of which has been done here in Massachusetts, but

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Speaker 4: research from around the world has developed treatments that can

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Speaker 4: better target the cancer cells. But in order to tell

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Speaker 4: medicine through biomarket testing has shown to be to have

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Speaker 4: fewer side effects, and it can get the patient to

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Speaker 2: So this is post cancer diagnosis.

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Speaker 3: This is not any sort of a pre survey screen.

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Speaker 3: So so there's there's a House bill and a Senate

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Speaker 2: The governor's desk.

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Speaker 3: What's the cost of that? Not that if anyone has cancer,

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Speaker 3: spent on trying to save that. But how expensive would

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Part of what part of what the legislation aims

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Speaker 4: even playing field. So it's precision medicine and biomarket testing

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Speaker 4: protocol and it can get patients to the right treatments faster. However,

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Speaker 4: so far ahead of the policy that insurance is not

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Speaker 4: keeping up with it. And we're looking to pass this

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Speaker 4: indicated biomarket testing. And we're not looking at just any tests.

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Speaker 4: You know, it would have to meet criteria because we

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, so who's who's opposed to this legislation?

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Speaker 3: Who There's always some group out there that's saying, we

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Speaker 2: Are the insurance companies on board?

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Speaker 4: The insurance companies have have opposed that the bill to date.

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Speaker 4: You know, again, it's it's somewhat newer science and they

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Speaker 4: We're having discussions with insurance company or try to insurance

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Speaker 3: My understanding is that this bio market testing has actually

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Speaker 4: That's correct, and we're up to now. It's happening so quickly.

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Speaker 4: We're now up to as of last week twenty three,

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Speaker 2: A tough regional question.

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Speaker 3: If the governor in Mississippi and therefore the legislature in Mississippi,

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Speaker 3: are going along with this. What's the problem in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 3: Aren't we supposed to be like the medical capital of

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Speaker 3: in medicine? Why why are we trailing Mississippi. That's not,

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Speaker 3: you know, to denigrate the great people of the state

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Speaker 3: of Mississippi. But if there's twenty three states, we're no

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Speaker 4: Massachusetts, You're right, does lead on a lot of things,

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Speaker 4: especially when it comes to healthcare. And in fact, next

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Speaker 4: it expanded access to health insurance for for many individuals, and.

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Speaker 3: That helped, that helped it right now, companies helped the

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Speaker 2: Helped insurance companies.

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand why on something like this is

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Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and you know that that's part of

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Speaker 4: benefits of passing a biomarker testing bill. In fact, our

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Speaker 4: up at the state House on Thursday, they'll be meeting

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Speaker 3: We could do Mark, if I could help you out

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Speaker 2: Could get on the phone.

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Speaker 3: We could basically talk to some of our callers who

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Speaker 3: of Thursday, put some pressures of the legislatures. I mean again,

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Speaker 3: it's troubling to me that Mississippi, which is not considered

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Speaker 3: So I may have my producer get back to your

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Speaker 4: Sure that sounds great. We're excited for our volunteers that

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe what we can do is kind of ring

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Speaker 3: very much. If folks want to get more information, is

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Speaker 3: there some quick website we can send them to.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you can visit fight cancer one word, fight cancer

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Speaker 4: dot org, perfect website, races can perfect perfect, Mark.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Mark Haimowitz, the regional government relations directive for the American

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Speaker 4: Okay, great, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure to talk. Soon.

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Speaker 3: confid Kids. The third Annual Inspiration Gala is coming up.

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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on'ell you Bezy

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Speaker 3: I am delighted to be joined by Laurie Barkowski. Laurie

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: So we were founded in twenty seventeen and Confee Kids

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Speaker 3: So again, the programs that your students participate in, they

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Speaker 3: Okay, So let's go to the fundraiser this Saturday night,

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Speaker 3: And then I'm going to ask you if there are

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Speaker 5: Awesome? Thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: So they can go right onto our website. It's confee

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Speaker 3: Gut have you spelled that first? Confee Kids? I know

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, C O. N. F I K I D S

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Speaker 3: Sure, so that's sort of psych and abbreviated confident kids,

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Speaker 6: We have all that, and we actually have an amazing

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Speaker 3: Laurie Bokowski, a great program. So happy to have you back.

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Speaker 3: We talked about you at the Charity Combine a couple

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Speaker 5: As always, Dan, thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, you are just such a big help for charities

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the kind Whereas we get back right after

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Speaker 3: This will be I don't know as much about Pope

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Speaker 3: I'm delighted to welcome doctor Paul Kinger. He's a New

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Speaker 2: Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Good to be on with you.

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Speaker 3: Well, great to be on with you. I am really interested.

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Speaker 3: This is the first biography, as I understand that of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And after twelve years of the Francis papacy, I mean, look, look,

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Speaker 7: would do another thing, he would make disappointment, make that appointment.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: The liberals in the church thought at one point they

447
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Speaker 7: were going to get female deacons, maybe female priests, maybe

448
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Speaker 7: same sex marriage. You know, homosexuality redefined, right, gender redefine.

449
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Speaker 7: And at the end of it, they got nothing. They

450
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Speaker 7: got nothing they wanted. They just got a lot of

451
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Speaker 7: questions a lot of synods, a lot of discussions, and

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Speaker 7: when the case of Cardinal Robert Francis prevost on the

453
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Speaker 7: fourth ballot, it looks like Dan according to Vaticanista's and

454
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Speaker 7: what was leaked and should not have been leaked from

455
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Speaker 7: the Sistine Chapel. He got one hundred and eight out

456
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Speaker 7: of one hundred and thirty three cardinal elector votes. He

457
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Speaker 7: got the votes of liberals, conservatives, moderates, and this is

458
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Speaker 7: a guy that all of them thought could simply bring

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Speaker 7: normalcy and stability back to the papacy. And Francis had

460
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Speaker 7: this kind of infamous statement where he said, I want

461
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Speaker 7: a mess. I want you to go out there and

462
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Speaker 7: make a mess of things, he said to a group

463
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Speaker 7: of Catholic youths, and that became kind of a metaphor

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Speaker 7: for his papacy. So a lot of the cardinal electors

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Speaker 7: at the end of twelve years, even the ones that

466
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Speaker 7: almost one hundred of them that Francis appointed, they wanted

467
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Speaker 7: somebody who could bring back, someone with a more moderate temperament,

468
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Speaker 7: who could just bring things back to normal in the church.

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Speaker 7: And I think they're getting that. They're going to get

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Speaker 7: that from Leo the fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting. Obviously. The one thing that intrigues me

472
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Speaker 3: about him is the fact that he spent so much

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Speaker 3: of his life outside of the United States. Yeah, he's

474
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Speaker 3: an American cardinal, but he never was a cardinal in

475
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Speaker 3: Boston or Philadelphia or Washington, Chicago, Los Angeles. We do

476
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Speaker 3: know he was a white Sox fan. So there's there's

477
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Speaker 3: a touch of humanity there, and and and a little

478
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Speaker 3: touch of reality. I think you need a pope who

479
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Speaker 3: might you know, know a little bit about America. I mean,

480
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Speaker 3: we are, I think the strongest Catholic country in the world,

481
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Speaker 3: both in terms of population and also influence. I think

482
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Speaker 3: it's about time we had an American pope. And and

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Speaker 3: I hope I certainly am looking forward to reading your book,

484
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Speaker 3: and I hope that he brings some guidance. I mean,

485
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Speaker 3: one of the things about JP two was that he

486
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Speaker 3: actually had a philosophical north star. He knew what he

487
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Speaker 3: wanted to do. And I remember when he went to

488
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Speaker 3: South America and some of the Jesuits were giving him

489
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Speaker 3: a hard time. Remember him pointing at at some of

490
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Speaker 3: those Jesuits and basically saying, Hey, you know, I'm the boss.

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Speaker 3: I'm the guy that that's on matters of faith and

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Speaker 3: morality in foul. I think we need a little bit

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Speaker 3: of that back in the church so people could know

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Speaker 3: what it is. And I think that a church that

495
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Speaker 3: tries to be everything to everyone ends up being a

496
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Speaker 3: church that is really nothing to everyone.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's right, this guy, he's not a Jesuit. He's

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Speaker 7: actually an Augustinian and very interesting. When he first came

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Speaker 7: out onto the loggia, and he had been announced as

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Speaker 7: you know, you know, robertam Franciscum pravos, right, and he

501
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 7: comes out and the first word that he said, the

502
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Speaker 7: first word that he said was literally peace. He said,

503
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Speaker 7: lapace sia cantuti voi in Italian, peace.

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Speaker 2: Be with all of you.

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Speaker 7: And he said, those are the words that Jesus Christ

506
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Speaker 7: said to the disciples, to the apostles, the resurrected Christ

507
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Speaker 7: when he first came to the upper room. And then

508
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Speaker 7: shortly after that he described himself not as a son

509
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Speaker 7: of Leo, although he took the name of Leo the thirteenth,

510
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Speaker 7: but he called himself a son of Augustine, and he

511
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Speaker 7: headed the Augustinian Order, the International Augustinian Order. You know,

512
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Speaker 7: the Italians called him the least American of the American cardinals,

513
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Speaker 7: which which which is true because he had been in

514
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Speaker 7: Latin America all those years, in Peru all of those years.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, Dan, like you said, he's

516
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Speaker 7: a he's a very American American. And and in fact

517
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Speaker 7: I go in the book, I go through his ancestry.

518
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 7: The guy has Spanish, French, Italian, African, American. He is

519
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 7: the word Catholic means universal. This guy easily has the

520
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 7: most universal DNA of probably any of the two hundred

521
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Speaker 7: and sixty seven popes in the history of the church.

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Speaker 7: And being from Chicago, which is the ultimate melting pot city,

523
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Speaker 7: he's very much he's very much representative of that. So

524
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Speaker 7: so this is a truly universal pope. Yeah, the least

525
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Speaker 7: American of the American cardinals in the last conclave, but

526
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Speaker 7: also a very American American cardinalist.

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Speaker 3: Weilly hopefully metaphorically he has broad shoulders. And I think

528
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: it's great that we finally have a pope. Who would

529
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Speaker 3: know who Frank Thomas, the big power hitter for the

530
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Speaker 3: Finnish Chicago White Sox, has big Maybe maybe it was

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Speaker 3: Apparitio or Nellie Fox to him.

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Speaker 7: And also understand those are good ones, didn't they Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

533
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Speaker 7: those are yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And Nellie Fox born on Christmas Day appropriately enough so

536
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Speaker 3: the American pot of Pope Leo the sixteenth And excuse me,

537
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Speaker 3: Pope Leo the fourteenth, I misread my Roman numerals before.

538
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Speaker 2: It is Pope Leo the fourteenth. Correct, correct, correct the fourteenth.

539
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Speaker 3: And it's planned to heal the church. Paul, maybe we'll

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Speaker 3: have you back and we'll talk in greater length because

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Speaker 3: I think it's fascinating. I mean, this is an influential individual, uh,

542
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Speaker 3: and it will always be interesting to you know, listen

543
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Speaker 3: to read their words, but also listen to their actions,

544
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Speaker 3: and I think, yeah, I think the church needs some

545
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: strong leadership, to be honest with you, and sure hopefully

546
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Speaker 3: this will be. He's young guy, he's he's what he's

547
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Speaker 3: still in his sixties, late sixties.

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Speaker 7: Sixty nine when he was when he was chosen. Then yeah,

549
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 7: you know, Christ said, Peter, you are the rock on

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Speaker 7: which my church and we need someone who's a rock

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Speaker 7: of stability right now.

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Speaker 2: For sure you got it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. The book American Pontiff Pope Lel

554
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Speaker 3: the fourteenth and his plan to Heal the Church by

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Speaker 3: Paul Kanger, Doctor Paul Kaner. Paul, I really enjoyed the

556
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Speaker 3: conversation politics and sports. Uh and in the church three

557
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Speaker 3: years that I have great interest in.

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Speaker 7: Okay, well me too. I'm from Pittsburgh. If you want

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Speaker 7: to talk sports anytime, we can't.

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Speaker 3: Get you, Bill, just don't mention Bills.

561
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I write about him too.

562
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Speaker 3: Latest threw the pitch to Mansarowski was one of my

563
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Speaker 3: closest friends in the world.

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Speaker 4: Ralph Terry Oh.

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Speaker 7: Wow, wow yeah, Ralph, Yeah, Terry Wow.

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Speaker 3: He came back to that ten feet Yeah, that's okay.

567
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: Ralph came back two years later and shut out the

568
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Speaker 3: New York Giants that had a lineup of may and

569
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Speaker 3: a better human being.

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Speaker 2: Trust me, if if you.

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Speaker 7: Got those guys are such great hitters too. Yeah, all right,

572
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 7: we got to talk baseball sometime.

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Speaker 3: That's it. I'm I'm game, I'm game. We're talking again.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Paul, appreciate it. All right, all right,

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Speaker 3: uh yeah, we get to mention a little baseball. That's

576
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Speaker 3: important too. When we we come back, we're going to

577
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Speaker 3: talk about a season of the year that no one likes.

578
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about winter spring, summer of fall. I'm

579
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: talking about ourgy season and it could start earlier and

580
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: last longer. I'm surprised at that, but we will talk

581
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Speaker 3: with Hassen bohart Uh. He's a Board certified practitioner and

582
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Speaker 3: an experienced clinician at Personal Primary Care. Coming back on

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Speaker 3: night Side.

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Speaker 1: It's Night Side Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 3: Well g season is right around the corner with us.

586
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: Now is Hassenbarat, who is a Board certified nurse practitioner

587
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: out in western Massachusetts, an experienced clinician at Personal Primary Care.

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Speaker 2: Borad. Welcome, Hassen. How are you tonight?

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Speaker 8: Hey, thanks for having me great, thank you. How are

590
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 8: you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great so and now I'm a little confused.

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Speaker 3: This is the allergy season in New England is expected

593
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: to start earlier and lasts longer in twenty twenty six

594
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: due to warmer temperatures that accelerate plant growth and increase

595
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: pottal levels. I've missed the warmer temperatures since about November.

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Speaker 3: I thought. I am surprised that the allergy season might

597
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: be starting early because we haven't had many warmer temperatures

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Speaker 3: here in New England in the last few weeks have we.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and don't surprise, you know, the climate has changed

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Speaker 9: over the last few decades, and it's definitely getting warmer, longer.

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Speaker 8: Throughout the winter months, and definitely spring is starting.

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Speaker 4: The spring.

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Speaker 3: Well, it wasn't warmer, it's winter. I don't know how

604
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: it was out there western Massachusetts.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, and we had we had a few days

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Speaker 9: recently of some seventy degree days which were kind of outliers.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, certainly, you know, you know, if you look

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Speaker 9: at the recent weather patterns compared to you know, let's

609
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Speaker 9: say the nineteen seventies, certainly the warmer temperatures and the

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Speaker 9: you know, the longer growing seasons certainly are attributing to

611
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Speaker 9: the tree pollen and the circulating pollen in the air,

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Speaker 9: and you know these last late into the fall, as

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Speaker 9: you can see in the New England regions. So deffinitely

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Speaker 9: definitely had been some climate changes. You know, the most

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Speaker 9: recent weeks have been the kind of outliers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, by the way, I do believe that the

617
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Speaker 3: climate is always changing. And I'm old enough to remember

618
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Speaker 3: the mid nineteen seventies when Time and Newsweek were basically

619
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Speaker 3: forecasting becoming ice age didn't quite work out that way.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, definitely didn't.

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Speaker 3: But if they were wrong, then what says I don't?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. So give us an example of what

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Speaker 3: you expect in terms of the allergies to be problematical

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Speaker 3: this year. You know how we still we had a

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Speaker 3: really gray, nasty day today. In March twenty third, we've

626
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 3: had snow back here, not not heavy snow, but snow

627
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Speaker 3: showers in Boston. I suspect the New and western Massachusetts

628
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Speaker 3: have had the same. When do you think the allergy

629
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Speaker 3: I'm looking for crocuses or something to start.

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Speaker 2: To come up on the ground, and it seems a

631
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: little late.

632
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Speaker 3: And the red sox, you know, they start thankfully in

633
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: Cincinnati and not at home this weekend. When do you

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Speaker 3: think things will percolate and the allergies will start to

635
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Speaker 3: kick up for people?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Go red sox?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So basically, you know, with the wet weather we've been having,

641
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 9: certainly rain does suppress some of that. Pollens for shatter trees,

642
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 9: and you know in the graphs and such, so the

643
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 9: rain does certainly suppress some of that. We're anticipating anytime

644
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 9: in the next few weeks we're going to start to

645
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 9: see an uptick. We already are sartin to see some

646
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Speaker 9: ca of season.

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Speaker 8: On allergic rhinitis.

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Speaker 9: We were seeing some patients with allergy like symptoms, especially,

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00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 9: you know, especially when those those heating and furnace systems

650
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 9: start to get turned on in the winter months and

651
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 9: then they start to get switched over to the central

652
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 9: air systems. You know, if you're not cleaning your your

653
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 9: filters up properly, sometimes in the older homes with those vents,

654
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 9: you know, if they're not properly dusted, you know, you

655
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 9: flip on those systems and then you're gonna get circulating

656
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 9: dust and particles circulating around so certain sphere.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely, definitely.

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Speaker 3: So what are the most common allergies of pollens that

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Speaker 3: that people are impacted by? Is there sort of a

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Speaker 3: sequence that we can that we can talk about. You know,

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Speaker 3: we'll have a wave of this, and then a wave

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Speaker 3: of that, and then finally another wave until we get

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Speaker 3: to late June or something.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, season on perimeteral allergies. Certainly in the

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Speaker 9: western Massachusetts region, we see a lot of tree.

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Speaker 8: Pollen and and uh and.

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Speaker 9: Grass pollen, ragweed, things like that are certainly endemic to

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Speaker 9: this region. So again, it really varies by the region,

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Speaker 9: but we certainly are certain starting to see a little

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Speaker 9: bit of a ticking in some of these allergy cases.

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Speaker 3: So generally, what will be the first allergy that people

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Speaker 3: you know, generally not everyone, but what's the first allergy

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Speaker 3: that they that that we get hit with here and

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Speaker 3: speaking to New England a little bit more than just

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Speaker 3: Western Mass, what is what type of pollen it hits first?

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Speaker 3: And then is there is there a second wave? Is

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Speaker 3: it sequential? That's I don't know as much about this

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Speaker 3: as you do.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm asking all the questions.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so, believe it or not, Sprinkled is one of

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Speaker 9: the worst cities in the in the entire United States

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Speaker 9: in terms of allergy sufferers. And typically in March to May,

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Speaker 9: in the early to late spring, we see tree pollen,

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Speaker 9: which is predominantly dominating the allergy season. You know, the ash,

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Speaker 9: the birch, the elm, the maple trees, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, the old pine and hickory trees.

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Speaker 9: Typically in the late spring and summer we see grass

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Speaker 9: pollen and start an increase. But believe it or not,

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Speaker 9: I couldn't believe this when I read this. Springfield is

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Speaker 9: a major hotspot in the Western Masters's region, amongst amongst

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Speaker 9: the United States, actually ranking among the worst.

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Speaker 3: You have, No, I know you're in Springfield, but I

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Speaker 3: just want to broaden the conversation a little bit to

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Speaker 3: doing that because we have listened as at Springfield, but

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Speaker 3: we got a lot of listeners a lot of other places.

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Speaker 3: So it's tree pollen that and and that's what is

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Speaker 3: that watery eyes and sniffles and runny nose? Is that

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Speaker 3: what we're talking about?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Absolutely, you know when we when when we.

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Speaker 9: When we talk about you know, allergy like symptoms, we're

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Speaker 9: talking about these are the patients that are really really

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Speaker 9: suffering from sneezing, congestion, h gis, you know, and even

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Speaker 9: those patients who have respiratory disease like asthma.

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Speaker 8: You know, we're started, we're starting to see some flare

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Speaker 8: ups in those cases, you know.

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Speaker 9: And rhin eightis right, rhino sinus heiitis. You know, those

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Speaker 9: sinus infection, the inflammation and in the nasals and the

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Speaker 9: sinus passengers and you know, allergies make you feel lousy, right,

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Speaker 9: So patients will have broad symptoms like fatigue, just feeling

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Speaker 9: like just blah. You know what I mean so, and

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Speaker 9: in allergies may develop later in life as well, so

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Speaker 9: it's not always a young person's disease.

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Speaker 3: So it's tough, you know. And I know friends of

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Speaker 3: mine who have had to have allergy tests and trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out is it food that they're allergic to?

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Speaker 3: Is it something in the house. I mean, this, this

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Speaker 3: is a This is complicated. I mean it's it's not

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Speaker 3: leading to people dying, I don't believe, but it's certainly

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Speaker 3: not making life any more comfortable. I really enjoyed, Hassen

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Speaker 3: the conversation with you, to be honest with you. Thank

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Speaker 3: you very much for checking in with us here. Maybe

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Speaker 3: we'll check in later. Is the as time goes along?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And I just wanted to quickly before we before

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Speaker 9: we conclude, just to you know, prevention and just recognizing

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Speaker 9: and you know, allergy testing is available, you know, checking

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Speaker 9: for these most common cases of food and seasonal perimial allergies.

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Speaker 9: And there's a menal therapy that can help desensitize our

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Speaker 9: bodies to help cope with these allergy symptoms. There's all

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Speaker 9: as medications, you know, nasal steroids, sprase anti hystems, these

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Speaker 9: are all available through your primary clinic clinicians.

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Speaker 2: All right, sounds great.

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Speaker 3: Hassen sate the information. Thank you so much. Talk to

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Speaker 3: you again after the nine o'clock news tonight. We will

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Speaker 3: start to take some phone calls, and I want to

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Speaker 3: talk about the.

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Speaker 2: Problems at the airports.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about that horrific crash in LaGuardia

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Speaker 3: s I'm talking about just the lines and the aggravation

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Speaker 3: that people are now being put to have to do,

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Speaker 3: that they have to go through.

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Speaker 2: And I also feel, really I'm really

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Speaker 3: Empathetic for these TSA agents and I want to talk

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Speaker 3: about all of that, and I hope you'll join me

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Speaker 3: six one seven two five FO