Speaker 1: We have a special guest in studio with us this morning.
Speaker 1: If you have any pains in your body anywhere, this
Speaker 1: man can help you. Shannon's been talking about him on
Speaker 1: our Detroit station channel ninety five to five during the
Speaker 1: commercial breaks, and now we get to have him in studio.
Speaker 1: I actually have been and probably will be a patient
Speaker 1: of yours, because I've gone to you before when I've
Speaker 1: had pains. Doctor Cogan is in studio.
Speaker 2: With US Institute Nerves Institute.
Speaker 1: I actually went to you because I did have lower
Speaker 1: back problems, and I remember the first time. I first off,
Speaker 1: can I it's first, you look great, You don't age
Speaker 1: at all? Oh age? Now you don't fantastic, No, seriously,
Speaker 1: but I will tell you that if you if you're
Speaker 1: somebody that has dealt with any kind of pains in
Speaker 1: your life, the worst thing in the world. I'd rather
Speaker 1: have a headache that it is like MIGRAINI ish than
Speaker 1: have my lower back hurt me. Because if the lower back, back,
Speaker 1: or any kind of pains hurt you, you're inoperable. Right,
Speaker 1: you can't do anything consumes your life. I mean, it's awful.
Speaker 1: And so Shannon's been talking about the nerve disk institute
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and I need to know about
Speaker 1: this whole thing. I need to know what you're doing
Speaker 1: and what's the whole you know game that's been happening
Speaker 1: here that's getting people back on their feet. I've got
Speaker 1: friends of mine without surgery. That's really crazy.
Speaker 2: Part is no surgery, no inject I've watched my mom
Speaker 2: get injection after injection after injection after injection for her knees,
Speaker 2: and this is no injection, no surgery.
Speaker 1: No drugs. I've golfing buddies that have gone to doctor
Speaker 1: Coogan and literally they used to four holes in have
Speaker 1: to quit because they were hurting. Now they're finishing around
Speaker 1: and beating my ass. But what is it that you
Speaker 1: got going on?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's interesting because traditionally, if you had
Speaker 3: a back problem or a severe knee problem, if you
Speaker 3: had degeneration, you really only had three options. One is
Speaker 3: to live with it. Here's the problem with living with
Speaker 3: those conditions. They they're degenerative. They get worse with time.
Speaker 3: Second option is to manage it. A lot of ways
Speaker 3: to do it. Anti inflammatories, painkillers, physical therapy, chiropractic acupuncture,
Speaker 3: massage that but durals, lasers, or cortizone injection, the needs
Speaker 3: any and all these things can help you feel better,
Speaker 3: but they don't do anything to fix the problem. And
Speaker 3: then the third option and the only correction oportunity with surgery.
Speaker 3: Here's the problem with surgery is one it's a big deal,
Speaker 3: and two, especially in spine surgeries, they don't necessarily have
Speaker 3: great outcomes.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't have great success rates.
Speaker 3: So we created a fourth option, and the Nerve and
Speaker 3: Disk Institute is really based around correcting problems. So instead
Speaker 3: of managing symptoms or trying to regenerate a little bit
Speaker 3: of tissue, we've come up with a system that does
Speaker 3: all these things and allows the body to heal itself.
Speaker 3: Where we see pre and post changes on many of
Speaker 3: our patients. In other words, Alvin Mri was someone that
Speaker 3: had a herniated disk and three months later it's gone.
Speaker 3: Or someone that's bone on bone on the knee or
Speaker 3: near bone on bone and we've created some space there
Speaker 3: and then we give them tools to maintain that forever.
Speaker 3: Because my philosophy is real simple. After being with the
Speaker 3: Lions for fourteen years and the Tigers for the past.
Speaker 1: Several years, well.
Speaker 3: I had a good medical statua too, But at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, I didn't want to travel anymore too.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you know, we
Speaker 3: want to. I treat our patients like professional athletes, because
Speaker 3: if you just chase symptoms, it ultimately leads to surgery.
Speaker 3: And our systems, all of them, are designed to repair problems.
Speaker 1: I think. First off, Don Riola, speaking of the Lions,
Speaker 1: was one of the people that turned me on to
Speaker 1: you and to go to you because I had pain.
Speaker 1: I was coaching his son Dylan at the time, and
Speaker 1: so he said, you know, you got to go see
Speaker 1: doctor Cogan, and you and I kind of know each
Speaker 1: other over time. But tell everybody what it is involved
Speaker 1: in this. Is it a lot of appointments that you
Speaker 1: got to do. Is it an ongoing thing. Is it
Speaker 1: something where you magically, all of a sudden, go boop,
Speaker 1: you're heeled. Well, here's the deal.
Speaker 3: Since it's not pain management, it's not a one and done,
Speaker 3: so there's two, multiple visits, and the number of visits
Speaker 3: can range from anywhere from five on the low end
Speaker 3: to fifty five. It really depends what the problem is.
Speaker 3: The pain's gone, Yeah, well that is.
Speaker 1: The pain's gone.
Speaker 2: You've repaired the problem.
Speaker 3: And that's the key. So you know, it's easy to
Speaker 3: take something or get a shot for pain. It's harder
Speaker 3: to fix something. And most people that come to us
Speaker 3: it took years. They've had a problem for years and
Speaker 3: it took a long time to get there. So it
Speaker 3: does take some time to fix. But the idea is
Speaker 3: everything is designed to repair it. So there's a beginning,
Speaker 3: of middle and an end and then we'll give you
Speaker 3: some exercises to continue doing it home forever.
Speaker 1: And it's wild. I had choulder surgery this past year
Speaker 1: because I tore my uh you don't even to tell
Speaker 1: the good doctor how I fell down the stairs drunk
Speaker 1: at Harper's. But it's going to be a little more
Speaker 1: fun story. But it's wild, though, because I feel like good,
Speaker 1: My shoulder are good. But occasionally, you know, I get
Speaker 1: a little bit of the stiffness. I need to like
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, where I want to get, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be paid. I'm not in total pain,
Speaker 1: but I want to like work it out a little bit.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's funny that you brought that up,
Speaker 3: because in December we opened a new division because called
Speaker 3: and it's it's called the Nerve and Disc Laser Institute.
Speaker 3: Because normally, out of every ten people we see, I
Speaker 3: may except three or four. So one or two out
Speaker 3: of ten aren't candidates can't do it. Four or five
Speaker 3: out of ten who are technically safe to treat I
Speaker 3: don't find to be good enough candidates to get the results.
Speaker 1: I'd be happy we actually turn people down because you
Speaker 1: don't want to take their money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, listen. I I'd rather fail. I'd rather not
Speaker 3: have someone as a patient than fail to get results.
Speaker 3: So but what we did is these people had no
Speaker 3: other alternative but to do surgery, and we opened up
Speaker 3: a laser division to help these people that, like you
Speaker 3: with your shoulder, I may not be able to fix
Speaker 3: your shoulder, but I.
Speaker 1: Think my shoulder's fine. I think, honestly, I just need
Speaker 1: to need to it up. I don't know.
Speaker 3: We've got the highest, highest intensity laser to help get
Speaker 3: your motion back and reduce your pain.
Speaker 1: Hey, Jerry wants to ask you a question real quick.
Speaker 1: Doctor Cogan on with us right now? And what does
Speaker 1: it called again?
Speaker 2: Nerve and Nerve and Disc Institute.
Speaker 1: What's up, Jerry?
Speaker 4: How are you doing good?
Speaker 1: Say hi? Say hi to doctor Cogan.
Speaker 4: Hi Jerry, Hey, Hey, how you doing doctor?
Speaker 1: Good? Good? How are you not bad?
Speaker 4: I've got de genitive disc in my back and I've
Speaker 4: got a steel cage in my neck and my back.
Speaker 4: My low, we're back. I fell. I felled the other
Speaker 4: night and hit the floor pretty hard. I'm on my
Speaker 4: way to the hospital now because something's not right. I
Speaker 4: can't physically move right. I'm I'm hurting somehow, someway. But
Speaker 4: where are you located at? We're taking a hold of
Speaker 4: you at.
Speaker 3: So we've got offices in Farmington, Clinton Township, Grand Blank
Speaker 3: and now bad Acts. So after you have it evaluated
Speaker 3: at the hospital, feel free to give us a call.
Speaker 3: You know, I was gonna I was gonna tell Mojo
Speaker 3: We're going to offer iHeart listeners for forty nine dollars,
Speaker 3: a two days process of consultation, examination, review of any
Speaker 3: X ray or MRI findings, and a free laser treatment
Speaker 3: included in that forty nine for you.
Speaker 1: It's free. Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, you gotta go, Jerry, seriously.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gona have to get you aggressive. One of
Speaker 4: you guys send it to talk to me.
Speaker 1: I remember, Lydia is gonna give it to you off
Speaker 1: the air hair right now, Jerry.
Speaker 3: But still go to the hospital first. If you're not
Speaker 3: feeling right, get that cherry out, then call me.
Speaker 1: You didn't get yours the same way I did five
Speaker 1: glasses of bourbon. I don't drink, but I had.
Speaker 4: I had no.
Speaker 2: No, there's a story, Jerry.
Speaker 1: We'll hear from you after talk, Doctor Cogan. Tell us
Speaker 1: what happened to Jerry? Actually you can it's hippop. So
Speaker 1: how do people make appointments? How do they get in?
Speaker 3: Well, they can either go to our website, nerve disk
Speaker 3: instude dot com or call five eight six four to
Speaker 3: one six disc it's five eight six four one six
Speaker 3: three four seven two.
Speaker 1: Good thing about this being on a podcast too, is
Speaker 1: you can rewind what you just heard.
Speaker 5: So if I haven't fallen right, I didn't get drunk,
Speaker 5: or I didn't have a Jerry episode or anything like that,
Speaker 5: I may just not be as active as maybe I
Speaker 5: should be. My back is always hurting, not like where
Speaker 5: I can't get out of bed, but like right now,
Speaker 5: I can feel tightness, I can feel tension. I feel
Speaker 5: myself having a stretch or turn almost like every thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: My neck, maybe my mouth fat, Shannon, you want to
Speaker 1: throw it away? Anybody else, anybody, I want to thank you.
Speaker 1: Good back to the business. AA.
Speaker 5: My neck hurts sometimes. I don't know if it's how
Speaker 5: I'm laying or my pillows too thin. But is that
Speaker 5: enough for me to come in and see you or
Speaker 5: do I need for something crazy to happen?
Speaker 3: So most of the first of all, you would be
Speaker 3: a perfect patient for our laser portion of our office
Speaker 3: because it can help loosen all that stuff up. Most
Speaker 3: of the people that I see have severe or chronic problem.
Speaker 3: You know, their knees are bone on bone, or their spine.
Speaker 3: They can have a severely degenerative bulging or herniated disk
Speaker 3: and may have nerve pain. So I might be an
Speaker 3: overkill for you, but that's why we created this laser division.
Speaker 1: It's good to start right. Yes, absolutely, do I get
Speaker 1: it free like Jerry? Absolutely, we'll do. Absolutely. Kara has
Speaker 1: a very important question, and what is that question? Kara?
Speaker 2: Do you see children and do you see patients that
Speaker 2: have CIDP?
Speaker 3: So the answer is children. I don't see little children.
Speaker 3: So you know, if I see a lot of high
Speaker 3: school athletes that are juniors or seniors that are trying
Speaker 3: to become college athletes or pros. We don't see little kids.
Speaker 3: That's really not our thing. I have seen kids as
Speaker 3: young as thirteen in certain instances, but there's a lot
Speaker 3: of pediatric place to see kids. But you know, listen,
Speaker 3: you can always give me a call. I will always
Speaker 3: call you back anybody. And I'm happy to help people
Speaker 3: direct them in the right direction if it's something we
Speaker 3: can't help them with.
Speaker 1: Pain's the worst and the worst is and I don't
Speaker 1: want to go too dark, but people with a lot
Speaker 1: of pain sometimes turned towards you know, the motrens and
Speaker 1: the which is not good to be. But then it
Speaker 1: gets worse, right, yeah, and I and I feel like
Speaker 1: that's the thing, like you spend all that money doing
Speaker 1: popping the pills and you're not actually treating the problem,
Speaker 1: like you said, so again, Channing.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's the Nerve Disk Institute and you can
Speaker 2: find doctor Cogan and all of his locations at Nervediscinstitute
Speaker 2: dot com.
Speaker 1: Probably the easiest way. Great to see you again. I'll
Speaker 1: see I'll see the laser people here. What office is
Speaker 1: that out of or all of them? You do, just
Speaker 1: let me know when you want to make an appointment
Speaker 1: for bad acts. I'm going to head up the bad acts.
Speaker 1: Come to the same office he's coming to. Or yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys could come together. You weigh us beforehand, because
Speaker 1: that hold car right back