WEBVTT - Dr. Cogan In-studio Visit

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<v Speaker 1>We have a special guest in studio with us this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have any pains in your body anywhere, this

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<v Speaker 1>man can help you. Shannon's been talking about him on

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<v Speaker 1>our Detroit station channel ninety five to five during the

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<v Speaker 1>commercial breaks, and now we get to have him in studio.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually have been and probably will be a patient

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<v Speaker 1>of yours, because I've gone to you before when I've

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<v Speaker 1>had pains. Doctor Cogan is in studio.

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<v Speaker 2>With US Institute Nerves Institute.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually went to you because I did have lower

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<v Speaker 1>back problems, and I remember the first time. I first off,

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<v Speaker 1>can I it's first, you look great, You don't age

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<v Speaker 1>at all? Oh age? Now you don't fantastic, No, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will tell you that if you if you're

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that has dealt with any kind of pains in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, the worst thing in the world. I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>have a headache that it is like MIGRAINI ish than

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<v Speaker 1>have my lower back hurt me. Because if the lower back, back,

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<v Speaker 1>or any kind of pains hurt you, you're inoperable. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do anything consumes your life. I mean, it's awful.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Shannon's been talking about the nerve disk institute

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff, and I need to know about

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing. I need to know what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>and what's the whole you know game that's been happening

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<v Speaker 1>here that's getting people back on their feet. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>friends of mine without surgery. That's really crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Part is no surgery, no inject I've watched my mom

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<v Speaker 2>get injection after injection after injection after injection for her knees,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is no injection, no surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>No drugs. I've golfing buddies that have gone to doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Coogan and literally they used to four holes in have

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<v Speaker 1>to quit because they were hurting. Now they're finishing around

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<v Speaker 1>and beating my ass. But what is it that you

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<v Speaker 1>got going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, it's interesting because traditionally, if you had

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<v Speaker 3>a back problem or a severe knee problem, if you

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<v Speaker 3>had degeneration, you really only had three options. One is

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<v Speaker 3>to live with it. Here's the problem with living with

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<v Speaker 3>those conditions. They they're degenerative. They get worse with time.

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<v Speaker 3>Second option is to manage it. A lot of ways

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<v Speaker 3>to do it. Anti inflammatories, painkillers, physical therapy, chiropractic acupuncture,

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<v Speaker 3>massage that but durals, lasers, or cortizone injection, the needs

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<v Speaker 3>any and all these things can help you feel better,

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<v Speaker 3>but they don't do anything to fix the problem. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the third option and the only correction oportunity with surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the problem with surgery is one it's a big deal,

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<v Speaker 3>and two, especially in spine surgeries, they don't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 3>great outcomes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they don't have great success rates.

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<v Speaker 3>So we created a fourth option, and the Nerve and

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<v Speaker 3>Disk Institute is really based around correcting problems. So instead

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<v Speaker 3>of managing symptoms or trying to regenerate a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of tissue, we've come up with a system that does

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<v Speaker 3>all these things and allows the body to heal itself.

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<v Speaker 3>Where we see pre and post changes on many of

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<v Speaker 3>our patients. In other words, Alvin Mri was someone that

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<v Speaker 3>had a herniated disk and three months later it's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Or someone that's bone on bone on the knee or

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<v Speaker 3>near bone on bone and we've created some space there

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<v Speaker 3>and then we give them tools to maintain that forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Because my philosophy is real simple. After being with the

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<v Speaker 3>Lions for fourteen years and the Tigers for the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Several years, well.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a good medical statua too, But at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, I didn't want to travel anymore too.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the day, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>want to. I treat our patients like professional athletes, because

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<v Speaker 3>if you just chase symptoms, it ultimately leads to surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>And our systems, all of them, are designed to repair problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. First off, Don Riola, speaking of the Lions,

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the people that turned me on to

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<v Speaker 1>you and to go to you because I had pain.

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<v Speaker 1>I was coaching his son Dylan at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he said, you know, you got to go see

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Cogan, and you and I kind of know each

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<v Speaker 1>other over time. But tell everybody what it is involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this. Is it a lot of appointments that you

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<v Speaker 1>got to do. Is it an ongoing thing. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>something where you magically, all of a sudden, go boop,

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<v Speaker 1>you're heeled. Well, here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Since it's not pain management, it's not a one and done,

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<v Speaker 3>so there's two, multiple visits, and the number of visits

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<v Speaker 3>can range from anywhere from five on the low end

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<v Speaker 3>to fifty five. It really depends what the problem is.

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<v Speaker 3>The pain's gone, Yeah, well that is.

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<v Speaker 1>The pain's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>You've repaired the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the key. So you know, it's easy to

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<v Speaker 3>take something or get a shot for pain. It's harder

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<v Speaker 3>to fix something. And most people that come to us

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<v Speaker 3>it took years. They've had a problem for years and

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<v Speaker 3>it took a long time to get there. So it

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<v Speaker 3>does take some time to fix. But the idea is

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<v Speaker 3>everything is designed to repair it. So there's a beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>of middle and an end and then we'll give you

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<v Speaker 3>some exercises to continue doing it home forever.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's wild. I had choulder surgery this past year

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<v Speaker 1>because I tore my uh you don't even to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the good doctor how I fell down the stairs drunk

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<v Speaker 1>at Harper's. But it's going to be a little more

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<v Speaker 1>fun story. But it's wild, though, because I feel like good,

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<v Speaker 1>My shoulder are good. But occasionally, you know, I get

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the stiffness. I need to like

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<v Speaker 1>figure out, you know, where I want to get, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be paid. I'm not in total pain,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to like work it out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, it's funny that you brought that up,

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<v Speaker 3>because in December we opened a new division because called

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<v Speaker 3>and it's it's called the Nerve and Disc Laser Institute.

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<v Speaker 3>Because normally, out of every ten people we see, I

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<v Speaker 3>may except three or four. So one or two out

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<v Speaker 3>of ten aren't candidates can't do it. Four or five

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<v Speaker 3>out of ten who are technically safe to treat I

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<v Speaker 3>don't find to be good enough candidates to get the results.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be happy we actually turn people down because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to take their money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, listen. I I'd rather fail. I'd rather not

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<v Speaker 3>have someone as a patient than fail to get results.

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<v Speaker 3>So but what we did is these people had no

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<v Speaker 3>other alternative but to do surgery, and we opened up

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<v Speaker 3>a laser division to help these people that, like you

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<v Speaker 3>with your shoulder, I may not be able to fix

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<v Speaker 3>your shoulder, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think my shoulder's fine. I think, honestly, I just need

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<v Speaker 1>to need to it up. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got the highest, highest intensity laser to help get

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<v Speaker 3>your motion back and reduce your pain.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Jerry wants to ask you a question real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Cogan on with us right now? And what does

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<v Speaker 1>it called again?

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<v Speaker 2>Nerve and Nerve and Disc Institute.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Jerry?

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<v Speaker 4>How are you doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>Say hi? Say hi to doctor Cogan.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi Jerry, Hey, Hey, how you doing doctor?

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<v Speaker 1>Good? Good? How are you not bad?

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<v Speaker 4>I've got de genitive disc in my back and I've

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<v Speaker 4>got a steel cage in my neck and my back.

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<v Speaker 4>My low, we're back. I fell. I felled the other

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<v Speaker 4>night and hit the floor pretty hard. I'm on my

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<v Speaker 4>way to the hospital now because something's not right. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't physically move right. I'm I'm hurting somehow, someway. But

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<v Speaker 4>where are you located at? We're taking a hold of

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<v Speaker 4>you at.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've got offices in Farmington, Clinton Township, Grand Blank

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<v Speaker 3>and now bad Acts. So after you have it evaluated

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<v Speaker 3>at the hospital, feel free to give us a call.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I was gonna I was gonna tell Mojo

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to offer iHeart listeners for forty nine dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>a two days process of consultation, examination, review of any

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<v Speaker 3>X ray or MRI findings, and a free laser treatment

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<v Speaker 3>included in that forty nine for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's free. Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, you gotta go, Jerry, seriously.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm gona have to get you aggressive. One of

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<v Speaker 4>you guys send it to talk to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, Lydia is gonna give it to you off

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<v Speaker 1>the air hair right now, Jerry.

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<v Speaker 3>But still go to the hospital first. If you're not

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<v Speaker 3>feeling right, get that cherry out, then call me.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't get yours the same way I did five

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<v Speaker 1>glasses of bourbon. I don't drink, but I had.

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<v Speaker 4>I had no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's a story, Jerry.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear from you after talk, Doctor Cogan. Tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to Jerry? Actually you can it's hippop. So

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<v Speaker 1>how do people make appointments? How do they get in?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they can either go to our website, nerve disk

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<v Speaker 3>instude dot com or call five eight six four to

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<v Speaker 3>one six disc it's five eight six four one six

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<v Speaker 3>three four seven two.

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<v Speaker 1>Good thing about this being on a podcast too, is

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<v Speaker 1>you can rewind what you just heard.

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<v Speaker 5>So if I haven't fallen right, I didn't get drunk,

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<v Speaker 5>or I didn't have a Jerry episode or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 5>I may just not be as active as maybe I

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<v Speaker 5>should be. My back is always hurting, not like where

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<v Speaker 5>I can't get out of bed, but like right now,

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<v Speaker 5>I can feel tightness, I can feel tension. I feel

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<v Speaker 5>myself having a stretch or turn almost like every thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>My neck, maybe my mouth fat, Shannon, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>throw it away? Anybody else, anybody, I want to thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Good back to the business. AA.

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<v Speaker 5>My neck hurts sometimes. I don't know if it's how

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<v Speaker 5>I'm laying or my pillows too thin. But is that

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<v Speaker 5>enough for me to come in and see you or

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<v Speaker 5>do I need for something crazy to happen?

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<v Speaker 3>So most of the first of all, you would be

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<v Speaker 3>a perfect patient for our laser portion of our office

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<v Speaker 3>because it can help loosen all that stuff up. Most

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<v Speaker 3>of the people that I see have severe or chronic problem.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, their knees are bone on bone, or their spine.

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<v Speaker 3>They can have a severely degenerative bulging or herniated disk

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<v Speaker 3>and may have nerve pain. So I might be an

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<v Speaker 3>overkill for you, but that's why we created this laser division.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to start right. Yes, absolutely, do I get

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<v Speaker 1>it free like Jerry? Absolutely, we'll do. Absolutely. Kara has

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<v Speaker 1>a very important question, and what is that question? Kara?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see children and do you see patients that

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<v Speaker 2>have CIDP?

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<v Speaker 3>So the answer is children. I don't see little children.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, if I see a lot of high

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<v Speaker 3>school athletes that are juniors or seniors that are trying

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<v Speaker 3>to become college athletes or pros. We don't see little kids.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really not our thing. I have seen kids as

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<v Speaker 3>young as thirteen in certain instances, but there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of pediatric place to see kids. But you know, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>you can always give me a call. I will always

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<v Speaker 3>call you back anybody. And I'm happy to help people

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<v Speaker 3>direct them in the right direction if it's something we

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<v Speaker 3>can't help them with.

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<v Speaker 1>Pain's the worst and the worst is and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go too dark, but people with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pain sometimes turned towards you know, the motrens and

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<v Speaker 1>the which is not good to be. But then it

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<v Speaker 1>gets worse, right, yeah, and I and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, like you spend all that money doing

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<v Speaker 1>popping the pills and you're not actually treating the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, so again, Channing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's the Nerve Disk Institute and you can

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<v Speaker 2>find doctor Cogan and all of his locations at Nervediscinstitute

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<v Speaker 2>dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the easiest way. Great to see you again. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>see I'll see the laser people here. What office is

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<v Speaker 1>that out of or all of them? You do, just

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<v Speaker 1>let me know when you want to make an appointment

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<v Speaker 1>for bad acts. I'm going to head up the bad acts.

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<v Speaker 1>Come to the same office he's coming to. Or yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys could come together. You weigh us beforehand, because

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<v Speaker 1>that hold car right back