WEBVTT - Brian talks with State Rep. Adam Bird

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<v Speaker 1>The talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>829 55 kcd talk station happy monday so pleased to

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the 55 kc morning show and thank you

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<v Speaker 2>to the voters in ohio's 63rd district which is uh

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<v Speaker 2>well is that claremont and brown county's least part of

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<v Speaker 2>for re-electing adam bird as your representative defeating the democratic

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<v Speaker 2>challenger at least we got adam back and adam's joined

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<v Speaker 2>the program today to talk about the aftermath it is

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<v Speaker 2>good to have you on representative bird welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an honor to be with you, and I definitely

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<v Speaker 3>am thankful for the support of District 63 in light

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<v Speaker 3>of the difficult election night results that.

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<v Speaker 1>We just experienced.

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<v Speaker 2>Difficult is a good word for that one. Still reeling

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<v Speaker 2>over at Datum, but we'll get through it as we

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<v Speaker 2>always do. Now, Ohio requires a three-fifths vote. to override

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<v Speaker 2>a governor veto, also to refer constitutional amendments to the ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans went in with a veto-approved supermajority in both chambers,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Andrew, last week, where Democrats flipped enough of

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<v Speaker 2>the House seats to drop Republicans below 60, which they

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<v Speaker 2>need to have the supermajority. The Senate's okay, but in

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<v Speaker 2>the remaining time, we're in this lame duck session when

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<v Speaker 2>you can override a governor veto. DeWine, not exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>most conservative Republican out there, so what is on your

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<v Speaker 2>short list of Representative Byrd, to get accomplished before the

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<v Speaker 2>supermajority goes away.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I want to point out to you, Brian, that yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we do have a supermajority right now of 65 members.

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<v Speaker 1>We need 60 votes to override a veto.

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<v Speaker 3>But despite that number, we still have some members of

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<v Speaker 3>our caucus who are hesitant to override a governor. They're

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<v Speaker 3>hesitant to— they' re.

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<v Speaker 1>More moderate in their leanings than many others of us.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we will still have some challenges to get

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<v Speaker 3>to that number 60 if we put something in front

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<v Speaker 3>of Governor DeWine that he vetoes. Now, you ask about

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<v Speaker 3>what priorities there should be. I will tell you what's

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<v Speaker 3>on my list. data centers, number one, must be dealt

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<v Speaker 3>with and they should be dealt with real soon. And

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to data centers, I think that it's

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<v Speaker 3>very easy for me. There has to be local control.

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<v Speaker 3>There cannot be nondisclosure agreements. There must be water and

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<v Speaker 3>water discharge must be taken care of. We cannot hurt

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<v Speaker 3>the environment over this. We cannot make the residents of

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<v Speaker 3>that community pay extra. for electricity, so they must make

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<v Speaker 3>their own electricity. There needs to be some common sense

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<v Speaker 3>to these issues. And so I think the other reasonable thing,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you put it in legislation, data

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<v Speaker 3>centers should go in brownfield sites to the extent possible

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<v Speaker 3>and not using brand new land, virgin farmland, those kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of things.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very easy issue.

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<v Speaker 3>The other issue that we might look at would be

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<v Speaker 3>executive appointments. What kinds of executive appointments are we going

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<v Speaker 3>to allow the governor to have? And then finally, property

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<v Speaker 3>tax is something that still is an issue that is

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<v Speaker 3>plaguing Ohio, not income tax. It's property tax that is

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<v Speaker 3>plaguing Ohio and has gotten out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to do something about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, you ran through the litany on data centers.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounded exactly like the campaign that Vivek Ramaswamy ran on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he said all of the above on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring your own power. Deal with the water issues. Make

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<v Speaker 2>sure the noise is in control. Let local governments have

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<v Speaker 2>measured control over this. That wasn't embraced by the Ohio voters,

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<v Speaker 2>sadly enough. I don't know where Amy Acton is on this,

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<v Speaker 2>but can you really hope to get something passed by

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<v Speaker 2>way of legislation that addresses any of this before the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the year? Or do you think there's really

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<v Speaker 2>going to be any opposition among your Democratic colleagues, growing number,

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<v Speaker 2>but still in a minority in Columbus, that they too

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<v Speaker 2>would push for a lot of these data center issues

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<v Speaker 2>to move forward? Because it sounds to me like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things that they advanced as well by way

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<v Speaker 2>of proposals.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I can tell you that we did not advance

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<v Speaker 3>data center legislation in the previous six months because there

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<v Speaker 3>was some disagreement over property tax breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I forgot to mention that issue.

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<v Speaker 3>And there were some members of the Senate that were

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<v Speaker 3>in favor of data center breaks for data centers. And

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<v Speaker 3>and the House, we stood firm on the issue. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>a multibillion dollar corporation does not need a data, a

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<v Speaker 3>property tax break. And if you give if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>give them a property tax break, they're still going to

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<v Speaker 3>come anyway. So that has got to be in any

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<v Speaker 3>legislation that we might pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in the final four, we will do this one

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<v Speaker 2>more issue on data centers and we'll take a break

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<v Speaker 2>and come back with property tax. And some of the

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<v Speaker 2>other ones are on my mind. Bringing one's own electricity

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<v Speaker 2>or ensuring that the local residents don't pay more because

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<v Speaker 2>of the massive power consumption they have. How can we

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<v Speaker 2>do that as a state? My understanding, like, again, going

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<v Speaker 2>back to small modular reactors, it's going to require really

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<v Speaker 2>intense federal government cooperation. Can we even deliver on that

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<v Speaker 2>mandate for them to, quote, unquote, bring their own power?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we've been elected to serve the public, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>what we've got to do. And we've got to find

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<v Speaker 3>answers to that question. And I think that's the only

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<v Speaker 3>way possible forward. We cannot increase people's electrical bill because

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<v Speaker 3>of data centers. And I don't care what the federal

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<v Speaker 3>government wants. I don't care about whatever we're scared of

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<v Speaker 3>the Chinese. We are not going to force data centers

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<v Speaker 3>on people. rural Ohio or any Ohioan unless.

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<v Speaker 1>They want it.

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<v Speaker 3>And if they're going, you know, the data center should

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<v Speaker 3>be forced to come in and say, this is what

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to offer the local community. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>build you this. We're going to do that. We're going to,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to help offset local property taxes. They should

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<v Speaker 3>be offering the local something in order for them to

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<v Speaker 3>come into that community.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, put them in a position of advancing their role

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<v Speaker 2>and their position, and it caused them to require them

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<v Speaker 2>to negotiate with the locals and come up with terms

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<v Speaker 2>and conditions that are acceptable to both. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing that happens all the time. Makes perfect sense.

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<v Speaker 2>State Representative Adam Burt, let's pause. We'll bring you back.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about some of the other pieces of legislation

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<v Speaker 2>we might see in the short term here in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>It's 835 right now, 55KRC, the talk station. This is 55KRC,

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<v Speaker 2>Got a couple more minutes here with State Representative Adam Byrd.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind enough to come on the morning show and talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what might happen in the short term. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know you've got a meeting coming up, State Representative Byrd.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me get real quick here. Well, lots of

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<v Speaker 2>my listeners, big Second Amendment fans we are with the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government no longer collecting a tax when you purchase

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<v Speaker 2>a suppressor, a short barrel rifle. Courts determined that not

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<v Speaker 2>collecting the tax renders that bill, well, just no longer enforceable.

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<v Speaker 2>But we still have state laws in Ohio that deem suppressors,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, dangerous ordinance. Senate Bill 214 says remove that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it passed in March 31 to 1 in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>It hasn't been voted on yet in the House, to

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<v Speaker 2>the best of my knowledge. Is that one that might advance?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a priority for us, Brian. I believe that we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get that done. We'll get it done quickly. It's still

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<v Speaker 3>in a committee in the House, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to make it, and I hope that it makes

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<v Speaker 3>it quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Your tea leaf reading on Governor DeWine's reception of that thing,

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<v Speaker 2>if it does pass in the House?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, when you see how overwhelmingly the Senate

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<v Speaker 3>voted for that, just about every Democrat voted for it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think that Governor DeWine would say no

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<v Speaker 3>to that with overwhelming support.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, since the Senate removed the short barrel rifle component

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<v Speaker 2>from it and just left the suppressor component... Would it

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<v Speaker 2>be possible that the House would change that to put

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<v Speaker 2>back in SBRs or they just do it as a

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<v Speaker 2>standalone previously passed by the Senate bill?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't had a conversation about that. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm okay with adding it back in. We want to

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<v Speaker 3>protect the Second Amendment. And, you know, I'm not worried

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<v Speaker 3>about what Governor DeWine thinks. We should do what is

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<v Speaker 3>in the best interest of Ohioans. We should protect the

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<v Speaker 3>interests of conservatives and Second Amendment.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we need to get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>And if Mike DeWine vetoes it, it's on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he still have does he still wield power? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you just got done saying, I don't care what Mike

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<v Speaker 2>DeWine thinks about it, but are there politicians in Columbus

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<v Speaker 2>that are concerned about the reputation in the mind of

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<v Speaker 2>Mike DeWine going forward?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the point of that statement from me

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<v Speaker 3>was before the election, we were wanting to protect a

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<v Speaker 3>Republican governor and not embarrass him too much in front

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<v Speaker 3>of an election. And now that the election is over,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no need to do that anymore. And we should

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<v Speaker 3>move forward in whatever is the best interest of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things you brought up was property tax.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know Ramaswamy ran on property taxes. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember if Acton had anything to say about it, but

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to at least roll back property taxes to

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<v Speaker 2>their 2019 pre-COVID level. Is there any legislation that's out

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<v Speaker 2>there pending that might bring some property tax relief before

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<v Speaker 2>the supermajority or is it coming in the next year?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, are even Democrats interested in providing some property

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<v Speaker 2>tax relief?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we passed four or five bills in the last

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<v Speaker 3>year that reformed property taxes around the edges. We didn't

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<v Speaker 3>make major change. Again, the governor would not have signed

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<v Speaker 3>off on anything major. But remember that in order for

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<v Speaker 3>us to provide any major change on property taxes, we've

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<v Speaker 3>got to find another way to provide revenue to your sheriff,

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<v Speaker 3>your police, your fire, your schools. Those kinds of things

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<v Speaker 3>would be detrimentally affected by you know, dramatically reforming property

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<v Speaker 3>taxes the way they need to be reformed. And so

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<v Speaker 3>that means we're going to have to be creative. Do

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<v Speaker 3>we add a little bit of sales tax? Do we

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<v Speaker 3>income tax? I never hear anybody, Brian, complain about income tax,

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<v Speaker 3>because when you do your income tax, right after you've

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<v Speaker 3>done your federal income tax, you think, wow, Ohio's.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing a great job on that.

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<v Speaker 3>So finding other ways to keep your sheriff, your police,

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<v Speaker 3>your fire, your EMT, your school, public schools going, I

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<v Speaker 3>think we've got to find creative ways to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that those are still funded at the same time that

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<v Speaker 3>we're providing relief to property taxpayers that are out of

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<v Speaker 3>control right now. And it's really a property valuation issue.

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<v Speaker 3>The property values have dramatically climbed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I couldn't agree with you more on that last statement.

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<v Speaker 2>But are we not still facing what I will view

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<v Speaker 2>as a rather challenging reality if we all vote for

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<v Speaker 2>elimination of property tax to a ballot initiative? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's still out there as a thing, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think it's going anywhere. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that the people who want to see property taxes abolished,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to keep working. And I think that when

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats become in power and the executive branch, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that that will just encourage those who are opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>property taxes to keep collecting signatures.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to move. And I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised if it's on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, we're going to keep doing what's in

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<v Speaker 3>our best interest for what I think is Ohioans, which

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<v Speaker 3>is to bring property tax relief. But if they get

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<v Speaker 3>that to the ballot and eliminate them all, we will

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<v Speaker 3>certainly have an emergency on our hands and we will

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<v Speaker 3>have to be creative about in the midst of an

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<v Speaker 3>emergency like that in a variety of ways so that

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<v Speaker 3>we don't lose police, fire, public schools, libraries, parks, all

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<v Speaker 3>of these things that are currently funded by property tax.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it seems to me to suggest if something like

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<v Speaker 2>that happens, the train wreck that's unfolding actually happens. Property

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<v Speaker 2>taxes are eliminated. You're left with this need to be

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<v Speaker 2>creative to come up with a solution in the aftermath

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<v Speaker 2>of that, that that's going to force some bipartisan cooperation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it would be an emergency.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt because if that's on the ballot in

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<v Speaker 3>November of 27, the way that currently reads, we would

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<v Speaker 3>have to have a solution by January of 28. And

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<v Speaker 3>so you've got less than two months to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>And it would bring.

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<v Speaker 3>The crisis to Ohio that would be necessary to bring

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<v Speaker 3>some real creative solutions to the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the clock's ticking. You got about a year. State

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<v Speaker 2>Representative Adam Burge, if you sit down and start talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it, because I I really do see that wave coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people are angry enough that they would say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm going to roll the dice. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>done with property tax. Let's see how our elected officials

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the aftermath.

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<v Speaker 1>We certainly know what anger looks like. We saw it

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Isn't that true? Especially at the federal.

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<v Speaker 3>Level, we don't do what we said we would do

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<v Speaker 3>by ending foreign wars and by taking care of America first.

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<v Speaker 3>And the federal government was more outwardly focused on whatever's

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<v Speaker 3>happening in Ukraine and China and Taiwan and Iran. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>when we get focused outside of America, we see what

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<v Speaker 3>anger does, and we're definitely affected by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Without question. State Representative Adam Bird, it's been a real

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure having you on, offering your thoughts and comments as we, well,

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<v Speaker 2>deal with.