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Speaker 1: On yesterday's show, our football ger were Matt Williamson. He

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Speaker 1: explained in detail, a bit concise breathe what the Steelers

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Speaker 1: did with that four to three look against the Colts

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Speaker 1: and the mixing it up with the inside backers and

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Speaker 1: the outside backers.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen to that again.

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Speaker 3: That's definitely a new wrinkle and an interesting one. And

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Speaker 3: I'm basically what they did was it was a basically

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Speaker 3: a true four to three stack like you used to

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Speaker 3: see all the time. And the three was not a

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Speaker 3: her big girl Watt or a high Smith. It was

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Speaker 3: an off the ball linebacker. And I found it kind

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Speaker 3: of curious. I'm like, holcome's out for this game. He's

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Speaker 3: your third best guy, and Harrison's coming back. What's the logic?

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Speaker 3: I mean, is Harrison so great he has to see

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Speaker 3: the field? Like I've kind of lobbied with Herbert, you know,

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Speaker 3: you change your your personnel usage and the answer is no.

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Speaker 3: But what they were doing behind the four to three

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Speaker 3: I think was really interesting too, in that they played

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Speaker 3: a lot a lot more too high safeties looks. You know,

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Speaker 3: they're at the top of the league in single high safety.

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Speaker 3: You know, think about menca and center field well, in

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Speaker 3: this game they played a lot more.

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Speaker 4: Too high safeties.

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Speaker 3: And where I'm going with this, and I'm sure this

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Speaker 3: is the logic behind it, is Harrison's a big body dude.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't run real well, but he's kind of your

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Speaker 3: big guy that if they're going to play too high,

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Speaker 3: they're going to have a big run stuffer to deal

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Speaker 3: with the Taylor problem. And it worked really well. I

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Speaker 3: think it's an interesting rate.

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Speaker 1: That's Matt Willimson. I think it can work really well

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Speaker 1: moving forward. The LA Chargers they run the ball a

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Speaker 1: ton and with with all that, they're not going to

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Speaker 1: pass as much. I would keep that in my pocket

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Speaker 1: for a Sunday Night's game at the LA Chargers. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a Mike Tomlin fan. Some of you out

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Speaker 1: there may have noticed. And Tara lost. It is just

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Speaker 1: Tomlin's bobo. But that tactic what Williamson was talking about.

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Speaker 1: And finally putting Ramsey at safety, which apparently is going

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Speaker 1: to be the case again at LA. It was pretty

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Speaker 1: close to genius and it went a long way toward

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Speaker 1: winning the game. So it almost pains me to do it,

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Speaker 1: but full credit to Mike Tomlin for making that decision,

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Speaker 1: for coming up with that number to calls eight three

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Speaker 1: three four one two WSDX. I repeat again. I would

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Speaker 1: have traded for Sauce Gardner given up two first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I would have traded for Jacoby Myers. That's the easy one.

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Speaker 1: That's the easy one. Jacksonville gave up a fourth and

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Speaker 1: a sixth. You give up a third and a sixth.

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Speaker 1: That's nothing. That's a small price to pay to give

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Speaker 1: yourselves a legitimate receiving corps, although I think a cornerback

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Speaker 1: is what they need more. And by the way, it's

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes after four so if a trade's

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Speaker 1: been made, we just haven't heard about it, but it's

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Speaker 1: too late to make one because we are past the

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Speaker 1: four pm deadline.

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Speaker 2: One trade.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen this confirmed, but there's the word that

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna take Brice Hall.

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Speaker 2: The Jets are having a fire sale.

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Speaker 1: Much like the die Hard where Timothy Olephant was the villain,

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs are probably getting running back Brice Hall

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Speaker 2: And you look at the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Chiefs get Briess Hall, Colts get Sauce Gardner, Jags get

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers, the Steelers get. They talk a good game,

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Speaker 1: they say they want to win, they say they're all

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Speaker 1: in with these senior citizens. All they want to do

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Speaker 1: is have a winning season. All they want to do

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Speaker 1: is get in the playoffs. All they want to do

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Speaker 1: is burnish Tom wins legend for not having the losing seasons.

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Speaker 1: That's all they want to do. You look at the

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Speaker 1: other teams that made all these moves to be better.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers didn't do anything. They didn't do anything. How

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Speaker 1: are you not angry? How are you not mad? How

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Speaker 1: are you not just going nuts? And the answer is

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Speaker 1: because your marks and you're stupid. That's an easy one.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of marks and stupid, nobody is dumber than the

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Speaker 1: Steelers fans on Twitter nobody And I tweeted before the show,

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Speaker 1: Steelers should have traded for Sauce at that price. Fyes,

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Speaker 1: And here's some of the responses I got. WU Tank

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Speaker 1: Forever treats and the boy, I bet he's a he

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Speaker 1: gets a lot of women. WU tank Forever tweets two

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Speaker 1: first and thirty million a year pass on that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: why why you're trying to win? Or not why it's

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Speaker 1: not your money. Do you want to win? Why would

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Speaker 1: you pass? And the answer is there's not a good reason.

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Speaker 1: Andrew tweets they want to have a quarterback in two

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Speaker 1: years unless you believe in Will Howard.

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Speaker 2: No, I just believe in Joe Hendry.

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Speaker 1: But and they want to have a first round pick

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Speaker 1: next year when the drafts here. But again I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: that's no way to assemble your roster to make that

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Speaker 1: a factor.

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Speaker 2: In two years.

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Speaker 1: Let's say they draft the quarterback of everybody's dreams in

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Speaker 1: next year's first round. Well, by the time he's ready

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Speaker 1: to be legit, all these old guys going to be

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Speaker 1: gone without having won anything, and then you'll really be rebuilding,

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Speaker 1: even though you'll never admit it.

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Speaker 2: Here's a tremendous one.

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Speaker 1: Johnny be Good, who should change his Twitter handled to

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Speaker 1: Johnny be Stupid. Stop day drinking. He's another Porter. Penalty

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Speaker 1: is starting to pile up. Okay, that's the first time

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Speaker 1: in history anybody's compared Sauce Garden to Joey Porter Jr.

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Speaker 2: And as far as the day drinking goes, oh.

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Speaker 1: My god, oh crap, what an unbelievable say by Madrid's goalie.

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Speaker 2: Oh f fs.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, cornerkick header Van Dyke header drives it

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Speaker 1: courtois Who's just this huge gargoyle makes the save?

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Speaker 2: What a dink?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get back to the tweets already in progress.

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Speaker 1: Now I can't get okay, it is okay using the

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Speaker 1: R word to say how stupid I am? That's from

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Speaker 1: That's from a guy who has passing wind as part

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Speaker 1: of his Twitter handle. You know I don't say that

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Speaker 1: F word. You can say it. I just that's what

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Speaker 1: I just thought. Another great save. Get out of the way,

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Speaker 1: you son of a bitch, and shut your app tweets.

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Speaker 1: That's the most low brain thing you've ever said. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I just want to win. I just

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Speaker 1: want to win. I don't even care about the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: and I want them to win more than you apparently

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Speaker 1: do Steelers tweets and not the real Steelers. Why would

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Speaker 1: you trade for cornerback using two first ground picks? You

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Speaker 1: miss out on drafting a quarterback for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six and twenty twenty seven seasons. I would have done

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Speaker 1: it for DK Metcalf at twenty twenty six first ground

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Speaker 1: pick in twenty to twenty seven fifth dron pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would have traded DK metcalf and I'll got a

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Speaker 1: receiver in the deal. Like I said, Steeler fans in

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Speaker 1: general are stupid. Steeler fans our Twitter are beyond stupid.

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Speaker 1: We got Mike de Fabe at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 1: He's smart.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe m f and Quartois made those two saves.

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Speaker 2: Bang bang.

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Speaker 1: Neil nil in the forty ninth minute. At least we're

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Speaker 1: playing well. We hadn't played well well. We played okay Saturday,

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Speaker 1: But still it's nil nil, all right, number to call

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Speaker 1: eight three three four one two w xdx god, I

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Speaker 1: want to I want us to score so bad. Now

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Speaker 1: here come Madrid. Let's go to a break before something

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Speaker 1: bad happens. One O, five to nine.

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Speaker 5: It's the Woodie Show tomorrow morning from six till ten.

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Speaker 2: WHOA you got a day Wednesday? Maybe on X how

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Speaker 2: you liking nappydx?

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Speaker 1: At one nine, it looks like that Threese Hall deal

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Speaker 1: there running back going from the justic Kansas City did

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Speaker 1: not happen. One deal that is confirmed is with all

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Speaker 1: out the stud tackle for the LA Chargers. The Chargers

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Speaker 1: got Trevor Penning the tackle from New Orleans. That is not,

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Speaker 1: strictly speaking, replacing, you know, equal with equal, but it's

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Speaker 1: an upgrade. At least they did something. Steelers did nothing.

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Speaker 1: Trade deadlines coming gone, Tom with did his little KOI

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Speaker 1: talk with the media today.

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Speaker 2: I like to go shopping. He didn't get nothing.

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Speaker 1: Same old crap from this team, same old bs, same

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Speaker 1: old alleged commitment to winning, same old not doing enough,

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Speaker 1: same old, same old. I'm pissed eight three to three.

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Speaker 1: I'm pissed because Madrid's goal is playing out his ass

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Speaker 1: A three three four one two WSDX. That's the number

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Speaker 1: to call. We got Mike the Fabo at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the hour. This guy's been waiting. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Don and Bethel Park. Donal, what's up?

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Speaker 4: What ut super genius?

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Speaker 6: Hey, I just wanted to comment. Uh Jar's play last

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Speaker 6: night was weak.

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Speaker 4: He's not confident.

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Speaker 6: Uh he just sat in his net like you said,

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Speaker 6: I thought he took us out of the game. And

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Speaker 6: question for you, what is all the arbitration and rules

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Speaker 6: and waivers that would require us to call up the

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Speaker 6: guy from Wilkespear who's playing lights out and have him

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Speaker 6: in Sea loss is the is the goal?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're They're just not going to do that, nor

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Speaker 2: should they.

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Speaker 1: You could, You could put Jari on waivers if he

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Speaker 1: clears that send them down.

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Speaker 2: They they did that last year. Uh so that that's

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Speaker 2: easy to do. Uh. But but the plan is to

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Speaker 1: The plan was never to start off eight four and two,

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Speaker 1: an eight game point streak. The plan was to leave

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Speaker 1: him there to develop and and let him be a

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Speaker 1: number one goalie and then go to him on a

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Speaker 1: James Bond need to know basis.

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Speaker 2: And we've not yet reached that point.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: If we're in a playoff spot in February, maybe then.

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Speaker 1: But then, but then, at that point, why would you

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Speaker 1: get rid of the goalies who got you there? I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's any number of things that could happen, But to

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Speaker 1: do it right now wouldn't be smart. You don't know

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Speaker 1: for sure that Morrishof's ready right now. The Penguins are

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Speaker 1: in a bad patch. I would have felt better about

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Speaker 1: bringing them up when they were eight two and two

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Speaker 1: and playing great, wouldn't you? At least that way it'd

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Speaker 1: be in the back of a team that was on

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Speaker 1: fire now they're not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I just think is gonna cost us the playoffs, I

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Speaker 6: really do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But the playoffs aren't the big picture, BRUV. Building

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Speaker 1: a championship level team in the long run is a

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Speaker 1: big picture, and developing morrishoff just right is the biggest

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Speaker 1: part of that. Thank you for the call. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: right about this. That said, last night was was bad.

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Speaker 1: Blowing a three and the lead Toronto after two periods

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Speaker 1: to lose four to three in regulation in the vacuum.

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Speaker 2: It soul crushing.

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Speaker 1: But like I keep saying, the Penguins are at a

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Speaker 1: point developmentally where that's going to happen a case. Yeack,

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Speaker 1: Goes past that freaking giraffe tremendous. Couldn't be happier? Where

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Speaker 1: Double im on the X joining me not to tuck

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Speaker 1: Steelers in the wake of a uneventful trade deadline day.

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Speaker 1: Well for Pittsburgh anyway. From the Athletic He's Mike de Fable.

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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 1: If I'm the Steelers, I'd have made that deal Jacksonville

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely agree with you. Mark. The way I

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Speaker 4: I would have given up as much as a third

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Speaker 4: And even if you bring in a Jacobe Myers, I

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Speaker 4: Minka Fitzpatrick for draft capital, if they had brought in

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Speaker 4: I would have understood sitting on your hands, But if

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Speaker 2: What about the trade for Sauce, like two first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I know you want to have a first round pick

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a tough one because the only variable there

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Speaker 4: the Steelers, I think, you know, their moves today to

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Speaker 4: But I think if you're in a situation where you

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the big thing. I'm shocked the Steelers did nothing.

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Speaker 1: You know, they got Doug or who cares. It's the

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Speaker 1: They all made impact moves. I mean, going on there,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point, Mark, and I brought that

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Speaker 1: At the very least, I would have made a better

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Speaker 4: It to me, it all depends on if Daniel Jones

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Speaker 3: I mean, he looked horrible.

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Speaker 4: That was an awful game by a quarterback, so bad

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't think I've seen him catch any

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Speaker 1: It's worth noting that the the LA Chargers, you know,

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Speaker 1: They brought in Penning from New Orleans, and that's not

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Speaker 1: you know, even for even as a replacement Mike, But

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they really needed to because they lost both of

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Speaker 4: you know, they needed to make a move like that. Also,

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Mike de Faibo. He's brought to this

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

437
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 4: I think he might have to stay there. I mean,

438
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 4: he's thirty one years old, and you know, in his

439
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 4: heart he wants to still be that lockdown guy that

440
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: can shadow the opponent's number one wide receiver and shut

441
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 4: them down. Unfortunately, we have enough data points to say

442
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 4: that that's not the case anymore. I mean, Jackson Smith

443
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 4: and Jigba and Cooper Cupp lit him up when they

444
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 4: played the Seahawks. Jamar Chase lit him up when they

445
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 4: played the Bengals. So I think that moving him back

446
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 4: to safety, you know, he's going to have an opportunity

447
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: to see the field from a different perspective. I think

448
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: he's going to be able to act on his instincts

449
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 4: back there, and it could prolong his career the way

450
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: it did with Rod Woodson and a couple other guys.

451
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 4: So I like the move. It's also out of necessity

452
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 4: because you know, jan thorn Hill wasn't really getting a

453
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: job done. He was losing playing time. Chuck Clark kind

454
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: of is what he is, and so I think it

455
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense what the Steelers did recently.

456
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 4: They moved to more two high safety structures and in

457
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 4: doing so, it kind of like lessened the burden on

458
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: those safeties, and I think that that makes a sense.

459
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: It also provides some support for the cornerbacks underneath that

460
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 4: they know that they have two safeties over the top,

461
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 4: they're not going to get burned deep. So I think

462
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 4: that that's going to continue to be part of the

463
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 4: game plan going forward, and I like the move to

464
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 4: move him to safety.

465
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: What was your take on Duggar For a guy who

466
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: just showed up and pretty much jumped on the field,

467
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty impressive and he plays hard.

468
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: Doesn't he?

469
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does. I think he fits what the Steelers

470
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 4: needed at that position, because when they lost to Sean Elliott,

471
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: they lost a physical box safety who can be impactful

472
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 4: against the run, but also has the versatility play post

473
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: safety or a half field safety, and so Dugger does

474
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 4: a lot of those same things. You know, he has

475
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 4: a reputation as a big hitter, and I think it

476
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: showed a lot that he I mean, I don't think

477
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 4: we we noticed him in any kind of bad way

478
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 4: or in coverage at all. The only play that I

479
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 4: remember him really standing out was when he made a

480
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 4: big tackle and near the line of scrimmage. So I

481
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 4: think that he fits what the Steelers are looking for

482
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 4: and I appreciate it. Afterwards, apparently they gave him a

483
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 4: game ball and we asked him about it, and he

484
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 4: was like, I don't care. That's that's not me. I

485
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: don't care about a stupid game ball. I care about

486
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 4: being on a team where I'm getting playing time and

487
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 4: I can make an impact, And I appreciated that sentiment.

488
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: What about that four to three wrinkle the defense used

489
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: and they you know, went with different looks on the edge,

490
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 1: different looks with inside backer.

491
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: What was the impact of that? Is that what slowed

492
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: Don Taylor?

493
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 4: I think that that was part of it. And so

494
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 4: what they did was they had a four man front

495
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 4: and three linebacker inside linebackers behind it. And what it

496
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 4: did was it allowed them to put Leek Harrison on

497
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 4: the field. And he is a much more physical, run

498
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 4: stuffing traditional inside linebacker on the field, and so that

499
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 4: gave him a little bit more bulk when they were

500
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 4: in a four down front. But at the same time,

501
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 4: you still were able to keep Peyton Wilson on the field.

502
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 4: And I don't have clarity on this, but I know

503
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: when they've done stuff like that in the past sometimes

504
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: that the guy that the role that Peyton Wilson was playing,

505
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 4: he's effectively representing his safety in what is kind of

506
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 4: like a big nickel and so you saw him out

507
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: like basically a line to like a nickel or like

508
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 4: a slot corner would be including on the play when

509
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: he came on the Blitz and Bad of the Past

510
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 4: that was ultimately intercepted by Jack Sawyer. So I think

511
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 4: the benefit of it is you're getting a bigger, more

512
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: physical inside linebacker and Malik Harrison on the field, and

513
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: so that helps you. But then you also have the

514
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 4: speed in the range and the instincts of Peyton Wilson,

515
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 4: because I like Peyton Wilson as a player, but he

516
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: has limitations against the run. He's such an interesting player

517
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: because he flashes and he has like he's one of

518
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: the fastest players on the field at all time, but

519
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: then you put him in a traditional role against the

520
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 4: run on early downs and he's getting out physical. So

521
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 4: it was a way to kind of keep him on

522
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 4: the field get stronger against the run. And I think

523
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 4: they accomplished both things in that game.

524
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: Did watch Stripsack win the game? It looked pretty much

525
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: that simple. It was seven to nothing, Indy. They were

526
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: driving again. That totally reversed the momentum and dare I

527
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: say rattled Indy. I mean, I know they were seven

528
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: and one, but that kind of what's the word I'm

529
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: looking for.

530
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: It brought them back down. They seem to be flying

531
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: and they just got the booboo face.

532
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I mean like they were about to drive

533
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 4: and go in and score and make it ten to

534
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: nothing or fourteen to nothing. And at that point, the

535
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: Steelers have been playing from behind. And as much as

536
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers has impressed me and outperformed my expectations this year,

537
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,239
Speaker 4: I think that the Packers game kind of shows what

538
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: happens when the Steelers get down by two possessions and

539
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 4: they become one dimensional and they count only on Aaron Rodgers'

540
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: right arm, and so that play completely got the Steelers

541
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 4: back into it. And I don't know what the heck

542
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 4: the Colts were doing on that because they had an

543
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: unbalanced line. They only had two offensive linemen to the

544
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: right of the center, and then they ended up pulling

545
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: the right guard. So it was just a pure one

546
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: on one situation for TJ.

547
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: Watt.

548
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: He's gonna win those all the time. And I don't

549
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: get it because the smart teams realize if you get

550
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 4: four hands on TJ. Watt, you can pretty much take

551
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 4: them out of the game. And in that situation, the

552
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 4: you know, the Colts decided to gamble a little bit.

553
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: They left what one on one and they paid for

554
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: it handsomely.

555
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: Why can't the Steelers run the ball and why do

556
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: they so quickly abandon it in the last two games.

557
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 4: Really, you know, it's interesting because it's like this run

558
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: game has been so up and down and so jeckle

559
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: and hide, and overall it's been poor. You know, you

560
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: look at the overall raw stats and they're near the

561
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: bottom of the league top three or top five, and

562
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: basically any rushing category. And you know, I felt like

563
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: they had discovered something with Spencer Anderson as the extra

564
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 4: offensive lineman, and you know, I felt like they needed

565
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: that balance to take some pressure off of Rogers. So

566
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 4: you know, I think that throughout the rest of the season,

567
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: rediscovering that running game and having that as a reliable

568
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: piece of your offense is so important, and beyond just

569
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: this year. If the offensive line in the running game

570
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: develops this year, I think that that means more than

571
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 4: anything else, because I don't I don't see an incredibly

572
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: high ceiling for this team. I don't think they're gonna

573
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl. But if they develop those offensive

574
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: linemen that they've invested so heavily into and they start

575
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: being the reason why you're winning games.

576
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: In late November and in December.

577
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: Then you could feel good going into next year that

578
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 4: you have something offensively that you can build upon. But

579
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: you know, if that running game continues to regress or

580
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 4: be inconsistent as they've been, you know, where does that

581
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: leave you next year when you have question marks about

582
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: Israe going to come back? Are you drafting a rookie quarterback?

583
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: Are you playing you know, Mason Rudolph or I don't

584
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: even know Will Howard at quarterback, Like, you need the

585
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: running game to support you next year, and so they

586
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 4: really have to have to recapture what was part of

587
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 4: their identity for you know, a handful of games before

588
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: these last couple how.

589
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: Good has Rogers been. He's not been dazzling.

590
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: His numbers aren't great, but I think he's been incredibly

591
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: effective at impact moments.

592
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you see his impact in a variety

593
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: of ways, even subtle things like getting the Steelers into

594
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: the correct play or adjusting things at the line of scrimmage.

595
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: I think that that's been really big. But I mean, overall,

596
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 4: I'd say he's probably a top fifteen quarterback in the

597
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: league this year. And really that's all you were counting on.

598
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: If you're the Steelers, He's performed as well or better

599
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: than the Steelers could have hoped. And so a big

600
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 4: part of the formula was supposed to be. They were

601
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: supposed to play great defense, they were supposed to run

602
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: the ball effectively. Rogers was supposed to push them over

603
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: the edge. Rogers has done his part. The defense and

604
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: the running game have been inconsistent, and so you need

605
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: the other parts to perform up to expectations. If Rogers

606
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: is going to give you that little jolt that you

607
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: need to push you over the top. And I think

608
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 4: that that's really the key factor for the Steelers right

609
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: now is if you're listing what is going wrong for

610
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: this team or where they have shortcoming, Rogers wouldn't even

611
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: be in my top ten right now, and he was

612
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: probably my number one biggest concern coming into the season.

613
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: I think he's been more than solid in the times,

614
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: very good, and so you know, to me, it's about

615
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 4: can they continue to play this style of defense that

616
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: we saw on Sunday and can they continue to have

617
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 4: consistent production from the running game.

618
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with all that.

619
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: I think Rogers has actually been the team MVP so

620
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: far in a very subtle way, like he just keeps

621
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: them together.

622
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: Like there's something about him that.

623
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: Rust didn't have, and I can't put my finger on it,

624
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: but it's there.

625
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: It's authenticity. That's what's the difference.

626
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 10: You know.

627
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 4: I don't dislike Russell Wilson, like, I mean, he visited

628
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: children's hospibles and stuff. He's not a bad guy, but

629
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: I think he's in authentic sometimes, and I don't think

630
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: that that message resonates with guys, whereas Rogers is just

631
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: like he's a straight shooter. I mean, guys mess up

632
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: in practice and he just curses them out. And I think,

633
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 4: you know, if you're on a veteran leaden team or

634
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: Rogers was on with these guys for a while, maybe

635
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: that act would wear a sin. But right now, when

636
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 4: they've got so many guys on rookie contracts and so

637
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: many guys who don't know what the heck they're doing,

638
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: you know, they're responding to a guy who's a four

639
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: time MVP and a Super Bowl champion, and so a

640
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: lot of the things that were written about Rogers as

641
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: a teammate, you know, the infamous Red Line press conference

642
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 4: with Mike Williams last year that was seen as such

643
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: a bad thing. But if you take it and you

644
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 4: translated to Roman Wilson and you see in practice Aaron Rodgers,

645
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: you know, detailing exactly how he wants the routes to

646
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: be run, in telling Roman you need to be where

647
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 4: I want you to be when I want you to

648
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: be there. Roman is responding to that kind of thing,

649
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: and it is improving on the practice field. I mean,

650
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: I was kind of shocked by his performance because he

651
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: probably caught every pass a practice on Thursday. I mean

652
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: they were targeting him like every single throw. I thought

653
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: he was in line for a big game. So, you know,

654
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: I've been very underwhelmed with what we've seen from Roman,

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Speaker 4: but I think that if he's going to reach his

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Speaker 4: potential this season, it's going to be because Rogers is

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Speaker 4: there walking him through each step and pushing him to

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Speaker 4: get there.

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Speaker 2: That was a weird win, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: I Mean, they were worthy winners, but they they Oh

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, this guy made another freakin save another one.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mike, this is very distracting. So I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you can understand. They got six takeaways but only one

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Speaker 1: by seven. They got out gained badly. Yet I felt

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Speaker 1: they were never in danger of losing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of the way I felt about it too.

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Speaker 4: It was really a strange game because the first quarter,

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Speaker 4: I would say, unfolded exactly as I anticipated. The Steelers

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Speaker 4: offense well, three and out three times after the Colts

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Speaker 4: had the ball only once during that entire sequence, and

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Speaker 4: you know, they gave up a long drive, Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 4: with that TJ. Watt turnover, and so you know, it's

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Speaker 4: kind of funny because like the dumbest, simplest, stupidest version

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Speaker 4: of analysis is to say, if you stop the run,

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Speaker 4: if you run the ball, and you win the turnover margin,

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Speaker 4: you're going to win the football game. It's dumb, it's cliche,

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Speaker 4: it's simple, but it's so true when it comes to

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Speaker 4: the Steelers. When they stop the run and when they

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Speaker 4: win the turnover battle, they're a really hard team to beat.

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Speaker 4: And when they don't get turnovers, you're seeing thirty plus

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Speaker 4: points and three hundred plus yards in a forty year

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Speaker 4: old Joe Flacco lighting them up. So Mike Toman called

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Speaker 4: that's really true. I think going forward. They are such

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Speaker 4: a turnover reliant defense that when they get them, you know,

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Speaker 4: they look like one of the best defenses in the league,

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Speaker 4: and when they don't get them, they look like one

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Speaker 1: My great stuff, I appreciate you taking a time enjoy

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Speaker 1: the game this week.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk again next week.

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Speaker 4: All right, sound good? Mark, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: My advice there has always kicked the ball straight up

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking all day about these Steelers lack of

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Speaker 1: doing anything at the trade deadline. I just want to

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Speaker 1: point out that you talk about being all in, they're

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Speaker 1: to Polly PAULI ask Mark anything.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Mark, what was your initial reaction when Kiss was

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Speaker 7: on the Tom Snyder Show and Ace was drunk and

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Speaker 7: being silly and Peter was laughing with them. But Jeane

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Speaker 7: and Paul were just sitting there all agitated.

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Speaker 1: In some think that was well, they should have been embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: Ason Peter had personalities. Gene and Paul looked like dinks.

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Speaker 1: They looked like self important morons sitting in there, in

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Speaker 1: there kabuki makeup, Ason Peter had a good time. I

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Speaker 1: was definitely team Ason Peter in that instance, and really

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Speaker 1: after that, there are a lot of people thought that

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Speaker 1: that was the beginning of the schism between As and

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Speaker 1: Peter and Gene and Paul.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, well, I'm not old enough to I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Old enough to be around that time.

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Speaker 7: But from what I saw on YouTube, I thought it

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Speaker 7: was actually pretty funny and just fun to watch. And yeah,

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Speaker 7: I couldn't see why the older generation Kiss fans seemed

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Speaker 7: to like Ason Peter more than they do Gene and Paul.

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Speaker 1: Oh, no question, and I definitely do. And I thought,

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Speaker 1: as did the best solo album. Hey, when we were kids,

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Speaker 1: you picked a favorite member of Kiss, just like the

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Speaker 1: generation before me picked a favorite member of the Beatles,

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Speaker 1: and my favorite was Ace Frehley. And uh, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I that Thom Snyder thing was just hilarious. It was

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Speaker 1: really funny. And I remember when Gene thank you for

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Speaker 1: the call. I remember when Gene Simmons was on the

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Speaker 1: Mike Douglas Show that used to be a mid day

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Speaker 1: syndicated talk show which was very popular, and Jean sat

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Speaker 1: down to be interviewed and Mike Douglas said, what are

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Speaker 1: you supposed to be? And Gene goes, I am Evil

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Speaker 1: Incarnates and this comedian of the day, Tody Field, said,

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Speaker 1: now you're just some Jewish kid from Brooklyn that that's

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Speaker 1: actually on YouTube somewhere. Let's go to Mater Mater as

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Speaker 1: mark anything.

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Speaker 4: What do you think? What do you think the real

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Speaker 4: reason is that the Steelers will not move on from Mike?

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Speaker 2: Well, I know you think it's raised, don't you.

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Speaker 4: I do not. It's questioning because you have ties to Israel.

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Speaker 1: Or goodbye, goodbye your pieces crap. No, it's because they

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Speaker 1: just don't fire their coach. And that's the only reason,

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Speaker 1: believe me. Let's go to Finnegan. Finn again, you're on

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Speaker 1: with double m.

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Speaker 6: What's your favorite holiday?

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Speaker 2: Well, how about you answered that first? Buddy? What's your

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Speaker 2: favorite holiday?

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Speaker 6: My favorite holiday is Halloween.

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Speaker 2: Why did you get lots of candy?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 7: I don't give a whole out of this?

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Speaker 2: Very cool? What's your favorite candy?

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Speaker 10: I guess your little chocolate.

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Speaker 2: That's the basis, Finn again, I respect that.

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Speaker 1: My favorite holiday is probably Thanksgiving because an old fat

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Speaker 1: guy like me gets to eat a lot and I

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Speaker 1: love stuffing. Do you like stuffing? Yeah, well Thanksgiving have

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Speaker 1: some stuffing for me, buddy. Thanks for the call. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to David and Washington. David, ask Mark anything?

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Speaker 10: Hey, Mark, you talked to Pierre today about young players

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Speaker 10: making the Canadian the team.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to know if you think.

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Speaker 10: Can guys like Baguard or Celebrini make the team this

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Speaker 10: year or they just I.

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Speaker 2: Think Celebrini will.

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Speaker 1: I think Canada always, like Pierre said, they learned from

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Speaker 1: the past. I think Celebrini will make it. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Bdard's good enough, honestly. I think he's been mostly

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Speaker 1: disappointing for his entire NHL tenure. I agree with that, but.

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Speaker 10: I think the way he's playing right now is pretty great.

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Speaker 1: I think the way I think the way Madard is

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Speaker 1: playing currently puts him in with the chance.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair to say?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. But I agree with what you

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Speaker 4: said about Madard.

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Speaker 10: I'm just saying this year he looks like he's poised

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Speaker 10: to break out finally.

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Speaker 1: Well, my big worry is that, like the US team

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Speaker 1: picks Patrick Kane, who ain't that good no more, instead

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Speaker 1: of Logan Cooley. But I think that's the way that

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Speaker 1: US team's going to operate. Look at the way Mike

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Speaker 1: Sullivan operate rated down the stretch with the Penguins, and

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Speaker 1: he's coaching the US Olympic team.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to a.

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Speaker 8: Talkback, Hey, Mark, I don't think the Penguins got any

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Speaker 8: quality shots off at the end of the game when

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Speaker 8: they pulled with a polie.

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Speaker 4: But don't you think they got some really nice passes

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Speaker 4: in around the perimeter.

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Speaker 2: That's sarcastic and funny.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, they blew it and it sucks,

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Speaker 1: but they out played a really good team badly for

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Speaker 1: two periods and maybe there's something to be said for that,

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Speaker 1: even if they got no points.

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Speaker 2: If you think you can make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure they do think that after the start

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Speaker 1: they've had, points are the big thing. But there were

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Speaker 1: some good things from that game. Let's go to another talkback.

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Speaker 8: Super genius Eric in Toledo. Hey, I just tuned in,

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Speaker 8: so if you discussed this at all earlier, I apologize

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Speaker 8: I missed it. But Roman Wilson already struggled getting on

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Speaker 8: the field. Do you think his attempted flip and subsequent

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Speaker 8: fumble cost him maybe a helmet the rest of the season.

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Speaker 3: Thanks well.

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Speaker 1: Tomlin said today that even though that was horrible ballper detection,

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Speaker 1: that he thought Roma Wilson's making good progress, but it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if he played less. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how with that wide receiving corps, you know, with that

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Speaker 1: with those receivers, I don't know how you don't at

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Speaker 1: least stress Roma Wilson. But I would have had him

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Speaker 1: in a bigger role a while ago. All Right, we

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Speaker 1: still got time for calls A three three four one

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