1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: The Penguins have the league's number three power play and 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: the number four PK. They're the only team in the 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: NHL that has top five in both currently and Dupas 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: has made a ton of great moves. Traded Jari got 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: good return, and if things don't go great for the 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Penguins you could trade Skinner and Kulak at the deadline. 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that you know what my gambit 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: would be. You know what my throw the dice. If 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: I got somebody could really help me for Skinner, I 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: trade him and call it morishoff. That'd be a big 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: gamble and I don't think they'll do it, but I 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: might so anyway, he traded Jari, got Cheinahkov, drafted Kindall, 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: signed Bras, Omantha and Watherspoon. 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: Guys like Novak have come good. He's the pinball wizard. 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: Dupas has a plan and we're seeing it play out. 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: I gotta give Gino all kinds of credit. 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Like I've been saying, he's playing very buttoned up, very smart, 18 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: very hard nosed, like he's going after it. But he 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: finally realizes I think that he's thirty nine, is in 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: justin to at least some degree accordingly, I think he's 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: better at wing. 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: Frankly, I think he can do less damage than the neutral. 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: Zone with them without the puck playing wing, and he's 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: making Chinnikov and he's making Novak. Malcolin said to Muse 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: in the preseason he wanted to play with Novak. He 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: saw something there and Malcin and Novak have been a 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: pretty good combination. So so much has happened with this 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: team to me, it's just so very interesting to discuss. 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: And if you'd like to chime in dial eight three 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: three four one two w XDX. I had somebody on 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Twitter say, Jari played great in playoff series, said let 32 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: him down. You like the Rangers series where Truber took 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: Sid's head off and he couldn't play for the last 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: part of it and played in the game seven, probably 35 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: when he couldn't have enjoy let in a goal to 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: tie it late, and then the overtime goal was that 37 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: when Sid blewett. I have trouble losing track. But yeah, Jari, 38 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell this story again and it involves Liverpool 39 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: Football Club, but bear with me. It has relevance. Twenty nineteen, 40 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Liverpool loses the champions le find in the 41 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: Madrid we had a Germany goal Luris Carrius, and he 42 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: led up two nightmare goals in the final we lose 43 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: three to one. One was from long range Gareth Bale 44 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: died long distance and it just went through his hands. 45 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: Another one was even worse. He caught the ball, went 46 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: to distribute it fired off Kareem Benzema into his own net. 47 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: Their play into the Liverpool net and like after the game, 48 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: everybody on Liverpool said all the right things. You know, 49 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: we support Lauris, you know it could happen to anybody. 50 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. But Jamie Carragher, who played for Liverpool 51 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: and won the European Cup as a defender, played a 52 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: great game in the final. In two thousand and five, 53 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: he said on TV that Carrius could never play for 54 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: the team again. He said, after a game like that, 55 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: he simply can't come back and play for Liverpool. And 56 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: people said, well why not and he goes because nobody 57 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: will trust him again, he said, the fans won't trust him, 58 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: management won't trust him, and the dressing room won't trust him. 59 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: And then he added, and remember this, the dressing room 60 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: will say they trust him, They'll think they trust them, 61 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: but they won't trust them. Well, guess what, Lauris Carrie 62 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: has never played for Liverpool again. I went on to like, 63 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, played here, there and everywhere. He's you know, 64 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: made a lot of money, but he wasn't that level 65 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: and proved it. 66 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: When somebody tells you what you you need to believe them. 67 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: Well, in twenty twenty one, when the Penguins were in 68 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: control of that playoff series against their bogeie team, the 69 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: New York Islanders, and Jari coughed up a turnover in overtime, 70 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: a potcanding mistake that gifted Josh Bailey the overtime goal 71 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: that turned the series around. I said then, and I 72 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: remind you now, Jari told us what he was and 73 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: the Penguins didn't believe him. 74 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: They just kept him around, re upped him, gave him 75 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: too much money. 76 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: He was never going to get them where they wanted 77 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: to go, and he proved it at that moment, and 78 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: they didn't act upon that moment. They kept him. He 79 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: should have never played for the Penguins again. And I 80 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: cited that story about Laws Carries then I said it, Then, this. 81 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: Guy's gotta go he's gotta go, and time. 82 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: As ever, has proven me to be right smarter than 83 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: all of you, and really smarter than just about anybody. 84 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: That's how it should have gone. I've got a text, 85 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: just yes or no? 86 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: Should I be allowed to remove illegal criminals from your area? 87 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 88 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to think about that one. That seems 89 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: like a trick question, but it's weird. Jamel Hill texted me, 90 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: that's odd. Any hoodles get your calls in now. Eight 91 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: three three four one two wxdx. That's eight three three 92 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: four one two w xdx. You tell me why have 93 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: the Penguins exceeded expectations? Four one two eight three three wxdx. 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Can they keep doing it? And I guess what I'm 95 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: asking is, do you buy into what's going on with 96 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: this team? 97 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm over the numbers again, real quick. 98 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: U ten two and two since the holiday break they 99 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: scored the first goal when every one of those ten wins. 100 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: They're twenty five to fourteen and eleven. Second in their division, 101 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: second fewest regulation losses in the conference, seventh best goal 102 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: differential at plus sixteen. Number four on the power play, 103 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: excuse me three on the power to play. Number four 104 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: in the PK. How much do you buy into all 105 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: of it? Or is it fool's gold? 106 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: A three three four one two wxdx exit one. Hey, 107 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: we had some phone proms but they're working again, so 108 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: down now A three three four one two w xdx 109 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: for calls on the fifteens, or you can use the 110 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: super secret number and get on quicker four one two 111 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: three three three w xdx. I was just watching video 112 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: of that SID tip from last night that that forehand 113 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: across the body tip he just does like clockwork. 114 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: What a tip that was. 115 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: Last night's looked more spectactar than the one he did 116 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: Saturday in Columbus again fourhand across the body, But last 117 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: night's was easier because uh, it opened up like Shay 118 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: was at a more extreme angle, like a forty five 119 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: degree angle, and it was probably easier to see and 120 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: to judge for SID, not discredit in the least because 121 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: it just flew into the net. 122 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: Like a guid to missile. 123 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: But the one he deflected from Tanger against Columbus Saturday 124 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: that was almost like the straight line from the top 125 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: of the point directly two sids straight ahead. 126 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: But they're both great dips. 127 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: And how many guys do that ever, let alone twice 128 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: inside of a week, let alone as consistently as Sid does. 129 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: So my question for all you is. 130 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: What is most responsible for the Penguins exceeding expectations and 131 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: to what degree are you buying it? 132 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: Let's go to Chris Chris Ron with Mark. 133 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 4: Hey, Mark, I'll answer your question quickly before I ask mine. 134 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: I think it's the special teams for the Penguins that 135 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: are chipping in a lot more this year than we've 136 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: seen recently. But Hey, I want to ask you, even 137 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: though up to only a handful of players per club 138 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: go to the Olympics, who who do you think actually 139 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: benefits more the guys that continue to play during the 140 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: Olympics or the guys that might get rest during the 141 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: two to three week break and the guys that don't 142 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: go over I think it varies. 143 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: But I think if Geenny Malka at his age will 144 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: benefit greatly from the break, and I think Ben Kindle 145 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: at his age will benefit. 146 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: Greatly from the break. 147 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: I think it depends totally on the individual. The Washington 148 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Capitals I don't think have no no that was for 149 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: the four Nations last year. They didn't have anybody who 150 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: played in the Four Nations and they made the playoffs. 151 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: They didn't, you know. I mean to answer your question, 152 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 153 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I think it depends on the individual and how many 154 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: players on each team do or don't go. I thought 155 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: last year that Caps had an edge with everybody resting 156 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: from their roster during the Four Nations. Now I wonder 157 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: if all of them sitting idle was a good thing. 158 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: So again, I think it varies. Let's go to Michael. Michael, 159 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: you're on with markne. 160 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: Man. 161 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 5: I gotta say, I'm very optimistic about these pens and 162 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 5: I got I think the credit go. 163 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 6: Is it just a breath of fresh air that. 164 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 5: Mike Sullivan's gone. You can clearly see dan Mus's system 165 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 5: in play, how he gets the most out of his players, 166 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 5: especially now the scene with the l tang of Carlton 167 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 5: out how this did the defense. 168 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: I think Sully did a good job obviously back when 169 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: they won the Cups. 170 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: I just think he stuck around too long. Yeah, and 171 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,119 Speaker 2: I think Sally thought. 172 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: Depe was played the same way now as they did 173 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: back in sixteen and seventeen and eighteen when they had 174 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: a far superior roster. 175 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: Sully just coached like one size fits. 176 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 6: All interesting too. 177 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: I know you always talked. 178 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 5: About how, say one of the and he always say, 179 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 5: how you want to play a fast game, bass game, 180 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 5: fast game? And you know the players the Corps only 181 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 5: got oldered. In my eyes, they seem to be playing 182 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 5: a faster, more tempo game. 183 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 7: You know. 184 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 5: I saw cool at behind the net playing. 185 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: The pup see I don't. 186 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but defensemen going deep sometimes they're just not 187 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: doing it like clockwork on every pinch possible, like they 188 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: did under Mike Sullivan. 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You know, 239 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 6: the ones that we expected the least out of are 240 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 6: getting the most out of their ability and they're doing 241 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 6: it all at once, and it's netting the hot streak 242 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 6: that they're on right now that you just talked about. 243 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 6: And you know, just as if, for instance, looking at 244 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 6: last night's lineup, I'll look at the defensive corps as 245 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 6: a collective, like Mark, Seriously, how many even good hockey fans, 246 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 6: dedicated hockey fans. If you said, give me the starting 247 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 6: six on defense last night for the Penguins, could have 248 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 6: come up with anybody but Eric Carl, like, could they 249 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 6: have gotten Parker, Watherspoon or Clifton or Kulak, maybe one 250 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 6: of them. Even good hockey fans aren't coming up with 251 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 6: the other five or most of them. And I just 252 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 6: that sort of jumped off the page at me. When 253 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 6: you guys were talking about, now how sustainable, isn't sustainable 254 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 6: enough that they could finish in the top three of 255 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 6: the Metro. I'm getting a little bit of concern though, 256 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 6: about the distance that's beginning to separate between the bottom 257 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 6: of the Metro and the bottom of the Atlantic, where 258 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 6: you're starting to see some cushion between the Atlantic teams 259 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 6: taken over with the last two wildcards, and you know, 260 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 6: I could see the Penguins having to settle into one 261 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 6: of those spots to make the playoffs. But we'll see 262 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 6: on that front. 263 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: I think if they don't get a top three spot 264 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: in the Metro, specifically second or third, because they're not 265 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: catching Carolina, there's no point making the playoffs anyway. If 266 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: you get a wild card, you're gonna play Tampa Bay 267 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: or Carolina and that's just a four game ticket to Pelukaville. 268 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: But that said, I think they could finish second or third. 269 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: They're and third right now. It's a bad division, it's 270 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: a bad conference. 271 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 272 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: And you know you mentioned the second with that win. 273 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, Oh, that's right there and second now, 274 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: And you mentioned that a lot of the lesser lights 275 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: are shining brighter than expected. But let's talk about the 276 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: brightest light of all, tim because I feel like Sid's 277 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: carrying the team on his back, although not always statistically, 278 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: but I feel he's the pacesetter every night. And on 279 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: the nights he doesn't have a good game, they generally 280 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: don't look don't win. 281 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 6: That's true. And one thing that I took from last 282 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 6: night when they put up the six goals they did 283 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 6: against Edmonton, you know, he had one of his classic 284 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 6: tip goals that only he can do on a regular basis. 285 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 6: Gino had to wind back the clock goal. Chinikov scored 286 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 6: the way that he can score. He used his skill set, 287 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 6: and you know that that's what it was to me, 288 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 6: is that you saw the goal scorer scoring in the 289 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 6: way that they should be in can be and Sid 290 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 6: is always a part of that, you know, ever really 291 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 6: deviates from what he does best. He rarely tries to 292 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 6: do things he can't, which was, you know, sort of 293 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 6: I thought part of the interesting thing when he tied Mario. 294 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 6: I think it was the point to tide, and there's 295 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 6: the point actually to break it where he wound up 296 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 6: and hammered his slap shots from the top of the 297 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 6: left circle like Ovechkin and tried to blow it through 298 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 6: the goaltender and ended up being a sister at call 299 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 6: in the rebounds like that's not Sid. But you rarely 300 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 6: say that when he gets points, he does it his way, 301 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 6: and last night was an example of that. 302 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: Who's better Sid now at thirty eight or Tom Brady 303 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: playing football then at thirty eight? 304 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 6: And I heard you talk about that it's a hard 305 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 6: comp because when he put it this way, I'm more 306 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 6: impressed by what Sid is doing at his age in 307 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 6: this sport because football is designed to let the quarterbacks 308 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 6: be good late into their careers. You know, I still 309 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 6: think Brady was great. I think he was doing a 310 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 6: little bit more than dinking and dunking. That's Super Bowl 311 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 6: run with Tampa, given the weapons that he had. But 312 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 6: the sport of hockey is not conducive to somebody still 313 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 6: being able to play it the way he's playing it 314 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 6: at his age for Crosby, So I'm more impressed with 315 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 6: what Crosby is doing. But you know, that's that's more 316 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 6: the nature of the quarterback position athletically and physically that 317 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 6: it is a top line hockey center. 318 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: Could sid get the MVP? 319 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: Maybe should he is a better question because I just 320 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna get it. I think they've ignored 321 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: him so much and you know, cost him a couple 322 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: MVPs he deserved. It's like with Mario back when they're 323 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: just juiced to screw him. 324 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 6: Not only that, but there are also some pretty high 325 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 6: profile guys that are having really good seasons, you know, 326 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 6: Like you look at the guys in the Art Ross 327 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 6: Hunt right now. McKinnon's got eighty five, McDavid's got eighty five, 328 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 6: Koucharov dry Sidle, Pastronach celebrating, like you know, these are 329 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 6: guys who are big ticket guys that are delivering. So 330 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 6: from that standpoint too, he's got a tough field to crack. Now, 331 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 6: if they are second place in their division, they make 332 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 6: the playoffs and He's the biggest reason why I think 333 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 6: you'll start to see more momentum for him because of 334 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 6: that if he keeps continuing to play the way that 335 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 6: he is. I was actually a little bit more intriguing 336 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 6: Mark about the discussion you were having about Dubis and 337 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 6: the executive at the year angle, because we might see 338 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 6: that here. I don't know how popular he is amongst 339 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 6: other hockey general manager types, and you said Toronto would burn. Well, 340 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 6: there's so many people who have sway in those kind 341 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 6: of conversations that are in Toronto. I don't know if 342 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 6: he'd get love in that regard either. 343 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no denying his impact, is there. 344 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: No. 345 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 6: The way that the rosters come together and they've been 346 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 6: able to cobble together while trying to deflate the cap 347 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 6: but at the same time stay competitive. Those are two 348 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 6: diametrically opposed things and they've figured out a way to 349 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 6: do it. 350 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: Again. 351 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 6: A lot of that comes back to Sid and the 352 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 6: good guys playing well, the goaltending being better. But yeah, 353 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 6: I would definitely give him credit. I just don't know 354 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 6: if because the bias that I think to an extent 355 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 6: exists coming out of Toronto because of how things ended 356 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 6: with Kyle there that he'd win an award like that, 357 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 6: even if it is deserved. 358 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: It says here it's the forty two member panel that votes, 359 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: consisting of all thirty two NHL general managers, five NHL 360 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: league executives, and five media members. 361 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: So you're right, he'll probably not get it. 362 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: Has no chance really, because he's not gonna win a 363 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: popularity contest, which is what it is in particular when 364 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: a group like that votes. 365 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 2: And how about this, Tim, I didn't know this. 366 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Jim nil from Dallas has won the award the last 367 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: three years. Haint never been in a final, but he 368 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: keeps getting Executive of the Year. 369 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, did I hear? I think I heard this in 370 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 6: doing some research on the column I wrote about Jason 371 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 6: Robertson for Today, which I think is a fun topic too. 372 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 6: But didn't they didn't he fire his agent or get 373 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 6: a new agent that struck the same deal with Rant 374 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 6: and with who's got a better relationship with him? Because 375 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 6: they just want to curry favor with him and try 376 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 6: to get the money out of Dallas. Isn't there something 377 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 6: to that. 378 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: With Jason Robertson or Jim Neil? 379 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 6: No, Jason Robertson working with Jim Nil like, he got 380 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 6: a different agent that's better working with him so he 381 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 6: can try to get the same deal that Ranton got. 382 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: He ain't gonna get the same deal that rant And got. 383 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: They can't afford it. They can't afford it under the cap. 384 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: They already have heiskin in and ranting in and. 385 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 6: I don't think it's six guys with fifty seven million 386 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 6: dollars committed. 387 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just can't do it. They can't afford to 388 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: keep him. 389 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 3: Now. 390 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: If he wants to stay there that badly and sells 391 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: himself short somehow, well that's you know, up to him. 392 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: And uh, we're talking to Tim Benz. Tim brought to 393 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: us by Caluci Chevallet, serving the Pittsburgh Gary for one 394 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: hundred and seven years. Let's stay with Jason Robertson because 395 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: I think they should get him if they can. I 396 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: think trading for him at the deadline is the say 397 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: for bet provided you sign him in advance before you 398 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: make the trade. But what would it cost to Penguins 399 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: and what would they have to pay Robertson. 400 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 6: Probably about twelve million. Now they've only got fifty something 401 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 6: committed for next year. Only San Jose is more available 402 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 6: cap space than the Penguins do. I think they've got 403 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 6: to get some commitments to even get to the floor, 404 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 6: if I remember correctly, So he would definitely help in 405 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 6: that regard. And I would think that if they were 406 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 6: to make a trade Mark, especially in season, it would 407 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 6: probably be Ruster Raquel who would have to go out, because. 408 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: They would have to because they're some tenders. 409 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, and then you know one of those guys 410 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 6: would have to be bumped down to a third line role. Anyway, 411 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 6: if you've got Robertson, I would think, so you're not 412 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 6: going to get the same kind of production out of 413 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 6: him for five million apiece that you've got. 414 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 2: Oh No, I mean, like I would trade. 415 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: I mean, this might be blasphemous for rebuilding team, and 416 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: it might not even be enough. But I'd give a 417 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: first round pick either Ruster Raquel and I don't know 418 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: McGroarty to get Robertson. 419 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 6: Sure, that's not blasphemous. It might take even a little 420 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 6: bit more than that, and I wouldn't be opposed to it. 421 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: Mark. 422 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: They had three first round picks last year, Yeah, like 423 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 6: they they used all three of their first round picks 424 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 6: they have ten picks over the first three rounds in 425 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 6: the next two drafts. They've got Kindle in the system, 426 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 6: they've got McGrory in the system, they've got Cliven in 427 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 6: They've got material now that they can use these. You know, 428 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 6: we kind of got on Dubus a little bit, and 429 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 6: I think rightfully so, but you know, he's he's turned 430 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 6: the chips into different chips. He's basically taken, you know, 431 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 6: a couple of twenties and gotten a bunch of tens 432 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 6: out of them. You know, like that's what he's done. 433 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 6: Because we thought that the first round picks were chips 434 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 6: last year, that he would deal for something. Well, he 435 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 6: actually used the pieces and now they're human beings instead 436 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 6: of prospects. So you have to like the player instead 437 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 6: of just liking the idea of a first rounder. But 438 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 6: he's got them. So if somebody likes Sun, and if 439 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 6: somebody likes Horcoff, if somebody likes mcgrorty, there they are. 440 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 6: Take them and go ahead and use multiple of them 441 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 6: to get Robertson. Robertson's twenty six. Yeah, he's got one 442 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 6: hundred points season under his belt. 443 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: And a couple of forty goal seasons headed for another. 444 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: And that's one thing that Penguin fans, hockey fans, hex 445 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: sports fans don't understand. They always want to see the 446 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: guy coming up that they drafted. They attach themselves to him, 447 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: and they overestimate him when they have no basis in 448 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: fact to know how good he's going to be. Robertson's 449 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: twenty six years old. Yeah, you'd have to pay him 450 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: twelve million. Yeah, you'd have to give up a lot 451 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: to get him, But then you would have Jason Robertson. 452 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: And it's always been part of Dupas's plan to use 453 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: some of his accrude assets to get a guy like that. 454 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: And here it is, here's the opportunity. 455 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 6: That's that's the point. That's what I was stunned that 456 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 6: he used all three of the first rounders. I didn't 457 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 6: think that he ever do that, And I certainly don't 458 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 6: think that we're going to see all three first rounders 459 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 6: spend the majority or even more than a year or 460 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 6: two beyond the start of their NHL careers in Pittsburgh. 461 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 6: I mean, I think that's why they're here, is to 462 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 6: be used for something else, and you know, just kind 463 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 6: of consider it, like, think about four or five years 464 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 6: of you know, let's see he gets the rant And deal. Okay, 465 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 6: let's say he gets the Ranton deal eight at twenty. 466 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 6: If it's eighted, sorry, I take that back eight to 467 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 6: twelve apiece. So it's eight years, twelve million dollars per 468 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 6: season the first half of that contract. He's still going 469 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 6: to be playing thirty and under. That's pretty good. Like 470 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 6: you're getting him in his prime. And he really misses games. 471 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 6: I know he got hurt in Game eighty two last 472 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 6: year and missed some that first round series, but he 473 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 6: hasn't missed a regular season game in like three and 474 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 6: a half years. 475 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So if your goal is to try to build 476 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: to being a contender while Crosby's still playing, you have 477 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: to make moves like this. And they lucked out in 478 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: another way, tim and then they got Chinnikov who appears 479 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: like he could be a top six exactly. 480 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: And you're gonna hear the phrase so long as this 481 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 6: conversation continues about Robertson, and I think it will for 482 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 6: a while, rightfully, So for the reasons we're talking about, 483 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 6: you'll hear people say they'll use the phrase I don't 484 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 6: want them mortgage in the future. I don't think you are. 485 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 6: I think you're helping to solidify it, and I thought 486 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 6: you'll He made a good point too. It's a little 487 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 6: bit less tangible. It's not me spouting off stats and 488 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 6: you know, salary cap information. It's a much greater intangible 489 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 6: and that is just star power. They need a little 490 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 6: extra juice, especially if sid is going to be the 491 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 6: last man standing in a year or two. 492 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: What has made Chinnikov so good other than Columbus just 493 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: underestimating him and the coach they're hating him, And how 494 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: much does he help Gino? What makes that whole line 495 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: work with him? Gino and Tommy Novak, who I never 496 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: thought much of till the past three or four weeks. 497 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, the Novak part of it might be the biggest surprise, 498 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 6: But I think the biggest thing is he's got a 499 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 6: good shot and he doesn't think twice about using it. 500 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 6: He doesn't steer away from it, and that respect it 501 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 6: is simple. But man' that's a weapon. 502 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: Well, Tim, I've always said I always want my team 503 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: to have one guy who shoots too much as long 504 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: as he can shoot, and that's Chinnikov. 505 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, the analogy, I'll draw is and I used to 506 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 6: hate this. You know, play and pick up basketball is. 507 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 6: You know, if you're you're the guy that picks the teams, 508 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 6: you always pick the tallest guy, right, and then that 509 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 6: you get that guy in the court and all he 510 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 6: wants to do is stay around the perimeter and shoot 511 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 6: three pointers. That drives me crazy. Give me the guy 512 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 6: who has the great shot that always wants to shoot 513 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 6: the puck instead of showing off. How good of a 514 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 6: passer he is too? No hammer the pucket. 515 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: That's what you got. 516 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 6: It's a gift. Use it. And then the mulking thing. 517 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 6: You know, maybe there's a little Russian connection there. Maybe 518 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 6: there's a little protege thing going on with him right now. 519 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 6: Maybe that's inspired him, enthused him. And I guess if 520 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 6: Novak can just be a playmaker between the two, so 521 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 6: be it. Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't he do 522 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 6: a I think it was on the Chinnacov goal that 523 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 6: he sniped off the back bar, Like, didn't Novak sort 524 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 6: of pick up the puck and circle through the neutral 525 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 6: zone and back everybody off with some speed and drop 526 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 6: it And it's a really good spot for Chinnacopv to 527 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 6: step into it like that's that's a play and you know, 528 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 6: again that's not trying, that's using your weapons. In the 529 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 6: case his case, his weapons are the other guys that 530 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 6: he's playing with and he's not afraid to do that too, 531 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 6: So credit to him there. 532 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and staying with Gino, I never thought that get 533 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: this level of play out of him, and I think 534 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: he can sustain it if he gets, you know, because 535 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: of that Olympic break which he's going to have because 536 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: Russia can't play, which is stupid, but it's benefits to 537 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: Penguins with Gino getting some relaxation time. And I would 538 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: bring him back for another year next year on two 539 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: conditions that he keeps this up to a relative degree 540 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: and he plays wing you cannot block Kendle. That said, 541 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: Kendall hasn't scored in seventeen games, I might give him 542 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: a game or two off. 543 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 6: Do you think he likes playing wing? Is he kind 544 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 6: of warming up to it enough to agree to that condition. 545 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: I think he sees it as a ticket to get 546 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: another year in the league. 547 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, if he's that pragmatic about it, sure, 548 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 6: And you know there are less defensive responsibilities for him 549 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 6: in that regard and if he got center that can 550 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 6: handle that, whether he's playing with Kindall or Novak, then 551 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 6: it could extend him that one more year. 552 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: Now. 553 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 6: You know, again, if we're talking about going out and 554 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 6: getting Robertson, you know, where are we gonna put all 555 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 6: the wings at that point next year? But if that's 556 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 6: a problem they got to deal with, if they got 557 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 6: if they certainly have too many top six wingers, then 558 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 6: Kyle Dubis really is the executive. 559 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: They won't tim They have a bunch of guys playing 560 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: top six wing now that aren't really I mean, no 561 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: insult to him, but Russ never was. 562 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: He just hit the linemate lottery. 563 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 6: And they're probably getting as much out of Raquel he 564 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 6: certainly did last year as they could. And I've heard 565 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 6: that about Robertson. Tu mark is you know, look at 566 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 6: his point totals last year. He hasn't come close enough 567 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 6: to the one oh nine. Over the last two seasons, 568 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 6: he's an eighty point guy each of the last two years. 569 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 6: And yeah, you're right. I mean, like, you know, if 570 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 6: you look at the pure numbers, uh, he had Ricard 571 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 6: Requel season last year. You ten assists more on a 572 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 6: better team, So you could say that, but I think 573 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 6: he's a really good player. I think he's a really 574 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 6: creative shot maker, and I think he would do wonders 575 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 6: for them here for years to come, even if he 576 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 6: is pricing. 577 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: Tim, will the Penguins make the playoffs? Can they win 578 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: a playoff series. 579 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 6: If they stay within the metro? I think they can. 580 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 6: Like you said, if they had to drop to a 581 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 6: wild card, I don't like those chances against the division leaders. 582 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 6: So if they stay within the metro, it's just like 583 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 6: the last thing in the world I want to do 584 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 6: is see an Islander Jersey in a playoff series. 585 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: And that's got. 586 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 6: Nothing to do but with my own and your own. 587 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 6: I'm sure Penguin PTSD have years gone by when it 588 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 6: comes to seeing the Islanders beat them, even at the 589 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 6: Penguins the better seeded team. But you know, you tosk 590 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 6: the question around of who do I want? Who would 591 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 6: you want to see them play in a first round series? 592 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 6: I don't know yet. I just don't want them to 593 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 6: see the Islanders because that, to me just feels all 594 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 6: too familiar. I've seen that movie too many times before. 595 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: Tim, great stuff, Enjoy the weekend, Stay out of the snow. 596 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 6: You got it bark Tanks. 597 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: That's Tim Benz from the Trip Good have Matt Barkowski, 598 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: former nahe defenseman, the Lebo Guide and he's on Sports 599 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh all the time too. 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