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Speaker 3: into Minnesota Timberwolves basketball guessing in progress. It will always

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm a man in the clothings a Universal Life church.

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Speaker 2: As each day goes by, be if you get beyond

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Speaker 4: Rumors are just going to go over two hours.

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Speaker 2: He pretty much warned it. Yeah, he pretty much said that,

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Speaker 2: for a big time drug kingpin. I would say, right,

437
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: But apparently that's what a number of people are suggesting.

438
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Speaker 4: By the way.

439
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: We have some time to play here a little bit,

440
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: so I don't think we've spent a minute on the

441
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: I mean alleged. We don't know if it's a kidnapping.

442
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: We don't know exactly what's happened to the woman from

443
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: is it from the Today Show? Who's his mom? We're now,

444
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: what is it? Three weeks into this story at least,

445
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: and it's the damnedest thing we've ever seen.

446
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: The reward is up to a million bucks, you know.

447
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: I need to reach out to who's been working on

448
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: that story at least the last several days. Is Randy Kay.

449
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: We have not had on in forever. I should reach

450
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: out to her. I'll be honest with you. I think

451
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: in the Evening where CNN, you know, sort of covers

452
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: a lot of different stories, I do think, frankly, and

453
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to minimize the tragedy here. Potentially it's

454
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: a horrific story, but I do feel like there's been

455
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: almost too much coverage of it when you factory in

456
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: all the other things that are going on, and it

457
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 2: goes back to it's a famous name, right, It's a

458
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: TV name, and there's been some debate about that, and

459
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: I don't know what the right answer is because everybody

460
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: you know it. People do seem interested because they get

461
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 2: invested in these shows, so you know, and it's a

462
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: so to that extent, it's a high profile kidnapping.

463
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Speaker 3: Well, yes, and is she and I would think, you

464
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 3: know what to make assumption, but it's the mom Nancy

465
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 3: was targeted because of Savannah, right, I mean.

466
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: No questions, that's the assumption. Yeah, exactly.

467
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 4: Otherwise it's the most crazy coincidence of all time. What

468
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 4: does that mean? And what does that mean?

469
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: I mean the now they've got new video indicating no

470
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: new door is a door, not door? Ring cam video

471
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: from a different day, same guy, right, What that means?

472
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't have any idea. They say the DNA evidence

473
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: inside the house is minimal at best, And what you're

474
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: hearing a lot is that the investigation locally was not

475
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: well handled in the proverbial first twenty four hours. That

476
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: it's you know, that's on these cases that's often essential,

477
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: and the first twenty four to forty eight hours not

478
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: a textbook approach. I guess I have heard some law

479
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: enforcement people say that, either on or off the record,

480
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: but it's it's it's a strange story. There's no question

481
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: about that. And right now, I mean it's one of

482
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: those stories where maybe something breaks at any minute, right

483
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: or somebody confesses or think. But the further we get

484
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: away from it, it feels like the less we seem

485
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: to know or even to learn. Your guy Bloom, Paul

486
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: Bloom fairness in Racoose act. I want to give Bloom

487
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: a minute or two two because you know he gets

488
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: very bitter and we talk too much about regoose right,

489
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: so uh playful manner. Yes, they are friendly rivals. I'm

490
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: half kidding, I'm half serious. Let me see if I

491
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: can find the Bloom tweet.

492
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Speaker 4: State of the Union last year. By the way, it

493
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: was the record at one hour, thirty nine minutes, thirty

494
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Speaker 4: two seconds. I apologize.

495
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Speaker 3: The previous mark was Bill Clinton in two thousand that

496
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Speaker 3: lasted one hour, twenty eight minutes and fourty years.

497
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Speaker 4: You beat it last year, according to the USA Today. Okay, okay,

498
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: fair enough, this is.

499
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Speaker 2: Bloom from Let's see which day this was. Hold on

500
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Speaker 2: a second, I could have sworn, Oh, I know, I'm

501
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: looking for the thread. That's the problem. M I don't

502
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: see it. Well, guess what I'll have to look elsewhere.

503
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: I could have sworn it was Bloom. I don't think

504
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: it was. It was Regoose, But now I cannot find

505
00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: the Oh, here it is. This is from yesterday Contempt

506
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: Times two. Here we go again, another Minnesota federal judge

507
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: finds the administration in civil contempt. This time it is

508
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: a Trump appointed judge. Eric Tostred says the DHS blatantly

509
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: violated a do not transfer in habeas release order. Administration

510
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: owes the immigrant his five hundred and sixty eight dollars

511
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: airline tickets as well. That's a good entree into where

512
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: I wanted to go next. Did you, I don't know

513
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: if you happened to see New York Times had a

514
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: story from what's the date today? Today's the twenty fourth,

515
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: so three days ago. So this is I think might

516
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: have been a Sunday Time story. And it's almost like

517
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: they were listening to the show because the premise of

518
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: this piece is, well, i'll read you the headline. Minnesota

519
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: Republicans were bullish. Then came the immigration crackdown, a fraud

520
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: scam hand had Democrats on the defensive and led Governor

521
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: Tim Wallison and his relate re election bid. But the

522
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: Ice surge uppended the political landscape. This is exactly what

523
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: we were talking about. Two weeks ago. I got a text,

524
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: this was before the surge had slowed at the Metro

525
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: surge thing, and the text was, well, what the Democrats

526
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: are doing, what Walls is doing talking about the tactics

527
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: that they're being used here is it's just their way

528
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: to distract change the subject from all of the fraud scandals.

529
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: The you know, starting of course with feeding our Future,

530
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: and now we got autism, we got we gotta You

531
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: almost need a scorecard for all the fraud scandals. And

532
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: if you recall what I said at the time, is

533
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: that it's just the opposite that the surge approach. The reckless, criminal,

534
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: at times certainly illegal approach that Ice took here during

535
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: this is what changed the subject. And that's why Republicans

536
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: writy should be bitter about that approach. If you just

537
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: want to think about it politically and not morally, I say,

538
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: it's the exact opposite of what the accusation was. If

539
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: Ice comes in quote unquote responsibly in a more targeted fashion,

540
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: doesn't end up with anybody dead, then probably the subject

541
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: would continue to be these fraud scandals. But what changed

542
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: everything politically was the hamhanded, aggressive, over the top approach

543
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: here that reached such a scale that even the President decided,

544
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: I gotta go, I gotta go send in my rescue

545
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: guy Tom Holman to try to settle the thing down.

546
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: The money quote from this New York Times piece is

547
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Speaker 2: from our guy, Chris Mantle. If wrecking the GOP brand

548
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: in Minnesota was the Trump administration's actual assignment than a

549
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: plus ten out of ten execution, Madle set Ding. Ding

550
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: Ding's exactly right. It's that same point that the ones

551
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: who lose or have lost more than anybody in this

552
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: state if it matters at this point in the metro area,

553
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: if there are any Republicans left, are the Republicans, it's

554
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: the righties. It's the sharks who should be livid, because

555
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: that made it easy to change the subject. If you

556
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: go over the top of your approach and you are

557
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: as reckless as Ice was, then it's easy for the

558
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: subject to be changed to something else. Now we may

559
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: look back on this and say, on the other hand,

560
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: the Homan approach, when Homan got here, that certainly, at

561
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: the very least the rhetoric moderated.

562
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: We can argue about tactics.

563
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: But even that, I think we're seeing withdrawal of a

564
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: number of individuals of ICE.

565
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Speaker 4: Agents.

566
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Speaker 2: It may now turn it back because now we are

567
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: hearing more now that there's not day to day combat

568
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: in the streets and day to day confrontation that tended

569
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: to be the stories that were being covered every day.

570
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: Now it may well go in time where it's going

571
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: to be back more about you know what we were

572
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: just talking about earlier. But I thought the story did

573
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: a good job and Mattel crystallized it perfectly. That the

574
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists out there have wanted to say, Yeah, the

575
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: governor's talking about this stuff because he doesn't want to

576
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: talk about fraud anymore. And by the way, he doesn't,

577
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: and he's vulnerable on the issue, there's no question about that.

578
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: But if you're being practical about it, and I think

579
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: being honest, you'd say, well, we could have kept the

580
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: republic the Democrats on the run on this subject all

581
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: the way up to the election if we had taken

582
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: a more professional approach when we were here. And that's

583
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: going to be in the end, I think that's going

584
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: to be a very insignificant part of the story. Because

585
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: in effect, Mattel, a Republican, is right. If your goal

586
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: is to wreck the GOP brand in Minnesota, then the

587
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: Trump administration nailed it. They did exactly that with the

588
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: approach that they took six four six eighty six.

589
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: That is the branch On Bryant, KFA and text line.

590
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: If ICE would have had support from Minnesota, LA Enforcement,

591
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: like all the red states.

592
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 4: There wouldn't have been any issues.

593
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't think you know the state very well if

594
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: you say that, and I think you're also not fairly

595
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 2: representing exactly how many more agents were brought in here

596
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: than anyplace else. And what you know, there's been a

597
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: lot of discuss and there was a whistleblower who said, basically,

598
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: if you look at the training tactics, they were completely

599
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: bastardized that in terms of ICE agents, the amount of

600
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: time that they're trained, the rules that were supposedly to

601
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: be implemented, about what they're supposed to learn about, that

602
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: a lot of corners were cut. I don't doubt that

603
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: that's probably true, but I'm here to tell you I

604
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: don't think it would have mattered because I don't think,

605
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: as I said, from the moment, you know Trump's ice

606
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: brigade came in here, they did exactly what they thought

607
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: the President of the United States wanted them to do,

608
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: rattle the cages of this state that gives them too

609
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: much heat, a governor he doesn't like, etc. So I

610
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: think it's a distinction without a difference. I'm not defending

611
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: the policy changes. It's not a good look and it

612
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: probably made many of these stages less prepared or capable

613
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: of showing any level of professionalism. But I think the

614
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: mandate was very, very clear, and ultimately they left relatively

615
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: speaking with their tail between their legs.

616
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 4: They lost that political fight.

617
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: That's why the President in effect said to home and

618
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: fix it for me. And I don't think Holme's here

619
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: any longer, but he was here long enough right to

620
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: apparently make a number of changes.

621
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Speaker 4: So I think that's also a big part of it.

622
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: And again, another you could say, sidebar related to this story,

623
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: another negative effect of the surge is what, speaking of

624
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: support for Minnesota law enforcement, what's the left of the

625
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: US Attorney's office.

626
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: It's been gutted.

627
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: It's been gutted like the twins bullpen, with a lot

628
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: more at stake, I might add, And again, what did

629
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: those individuals, those attorneys, what was their specialty? Recently, it's

630
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: been fraud frad They're the ones who, beyond the videos,

631
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: nailed have and they continue to nail these cases while

632
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: they continue.

633
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: They're gone now.

634
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: But that's again if you're if you're just thinking of

635
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: this strategically as a righty, as a shark, you're going

636
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: we lose there too if we think the fraud stuff

637
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: is that important. We had people in place who knew

638
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: the cases, they knew the stories, and by the way

639
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: they told us, Joe Thompson said, we're just scratching the surface.

640
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: There's so much more that we're going to have a

641
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: chance to try to get to here, to hold the

642
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: right people accountable. How is that a win? If you're

643
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: a shark, it may, you know, you may feel good

644
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: about we knocked some heads and we did, we made it,

645
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: but in the end, again politically, you lose.

646
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 4: And even in terms of the fraud stuff.

647
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they're farming people in from the FEDS,

648
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: but they're coming in without the background of the people

649
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: who've been working in that office and have developed these

650
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: cases and were the only reason that we knew about

651
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: the fraud in the first place, So not a lot

652
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Speaker 2: of that makes makes a lot of sense to me.

653
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: You're totally unlistenable when you get on the Trump ramps

654
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: grants shut your damn yap, I'd say, respectfully to yap guy,

655
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: did you listen to the specifics of what I said?

656
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: Did you listen to the quote from Chris maddele, a Republican.

657
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm just asking you, if you don't want to talk

658
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: about the morality of it, what did the what did

659
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: you as a as a member of the Shark Party

660
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: gain by this whole entire enterprise. Do you think you

661
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: put yourself in a better position politically the way it stands,

662
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: Didn't you lose a lot more that you than you gained?

663
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: So I get it, you know, more TDS, more trumped arrangement.

664
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Speaker 2: Let's go beyond the the labels. Let's talk about the

665
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: specifics of what I'm laying out, and you go. I

666
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: would think again, if you're if you're at all reasonable

667
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: about it, even if you're a militant about when it

668
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: comes to the issue of illegal immigration, you'd say, yeah,

669
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: this hasn't exactly I mean, I mean you want to

670
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: talk about unintended consequences. I mean, we kidded with with

671
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: with with with Chris, and here that did the did

672
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: you play your cards too hard? I had no problem

673
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: with the pushing and the pressure that was being put

674
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Speaker 2: on the governor. He deserved it. He should be vulnerable

675
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: on this particular on the fraud issue. One hundred.

676
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Speaker 4: Uh.

677
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Speaker 2: But then the question was do you decide how, if

678
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: you how hard you want to push. Because once you

679
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: get him to do what he did, which is I'm

680
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: not going to run for reelection, what did you effectively

681
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: do you handed the governor the next governor's race Amy

682
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: Kloesher once it was became clear that she was going

683
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Speaker 2: to be the person that doesn't That doesn't excuse the

684
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: fraud stuff. We've talked plenty of fraud on this show.

685
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: We talked about it earlier in the program. I have

686
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: no confidence, let me repeat this, zero confidence in this

687
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: administration when it comes to this issue, especially when we've

688
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 2: learned all the things we have learned over the last

689
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Speaker 2: certainly the last six months.

690
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Speaker 4: Zero.

691
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: Now they're forced to say what they're saying, but I

692
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 2: still don't have any faith that they're there, that they're

693
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: capable of doing anything about it. So I'm thinking you

694
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: got a great issue there, man, and it could have

695
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: continued to be the issue the last six weeks as well.

696
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: And if anybody got if if there was any sidetrack

697
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: to it, it was because of the approach that Ice took.

698
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 2: None of that matters to potus. He's on the revenge tour.

699
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Speaker 2: Oh say the Union. I have come to agree with

700
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Speaker 2: the latest bill maher position on the state.

701
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Speaker 4: Of Union speech. Let's get rid of it. It's eliminated.

702
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: And I felt this way through the last at least

703
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Speaker 2: both the Democratic and Republican presidents. I like tradition as

704
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: much as the next guy, I really do. I think

705
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: there's something to be said for all of that, mister speaker,

706
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 2: the President of the United As you know, it's arousing,

707
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: it's great, But tradition it's become, again, even by political standards,

708
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: so performative that I don't know that it serves any

709
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: useful purpose. I really don't. I come away from it

710
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: going if you watch it, you're almost as watching it

711
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: as as as almost like as a game another Olympic sport,

712
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: but not that not as that interesting.

713
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: We all know what's going to happen tonight.

714
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Speaker 2: And and as my reminds us, this became a bigger

715
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: tradition in terms of length of speech and grandiosity of

716
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: the speech, more recent than you think. And if you

717
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: go back in our history, like I said, there's like

718
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: eight minute ones, eleven minute ones, I think, and it

719
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: wasn't even viewed as attempting to do what it now is,

720
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: which is I think just pure performance. At this point,

721
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of Democrats who said, a bunch of

722
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: Democrats who said they're not going to show. Right, Yep,

723
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Speaker 2: that's fine. You know again, I think you're better off showing.

724
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: But I you know, I can't blame the Supreme Court members.

725
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: They don't want to show because they're gonna get bludgeoned.

726
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: But I don't do we here's the question. If you

727
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: watch it mainly to to record how many times you

728
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: will WinCE and go, oh god, really, then does it

729
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: serve any useful purpose at that point? And when we

730
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: all all know that there's there's not going to be

731
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 2: you know, any any sort of there's not even anything

732
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: I think that both sides are going to applaud. So

733
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: I maybe that's the answer. Just we not get rid

734
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Speaker 2: of it, maybe just suspend.

735
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Speaker 4: It for a few times.

736
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Speaker 2: Say let's see if we can get to the other

737
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: side of sanity. Once the NBA head coaches start wearing

738
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: suits on the sidelines as the first sign of decorum,

739
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: returning to our culture, and we become a proper nation,

740
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: and we become a proper nation, then we say, okay,

741
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 2: let's bring it back. Now, that was a chance everybody's

742
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: going to show up and we might actually all be

743
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 2: able to applaud for some stuff, and et cetera, et cetera.

744
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: But I just don't think that that's likely to to

745
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: happen at this point. State of the Union, where was

746
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: the h sh shut your yap? What happened to the constitutions?

747
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: The first Amendment that the sharks claim to hold so

748
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: near and dear that's grant for Maple Grove. Well, that's

749
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: you know, that's the way it works. Unfortunately, that's the

750
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: deal we're in. We have people on either side of

751
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: the aisle who are very capable saying, shut your yap

752
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 2: if you're not repeating exactly what you believe or.

753
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 4: That they believe that you need to endorse.

754
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Speaker 2: Dan, I didn't listen anything you said, but I vehemently

755
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 2: disagree with every point you made.

756
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Speaker 4: Do better.

757
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it better, Charlotte. I'm going to try to

758
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Speaker 2: do better. I'll tell you, well, let's make this the

759
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Speaker 2: top of the hour pause. I got a couple of

760
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: other toy department items to get to and who knows

761
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Speaker 2: what else between now and when we wrap it up

762
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Speaker 2: at six thirty Big Basketball at night tonight on the fan.

763
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 2: First go to go for men's basketball at the University

764
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: of Michigan and then presumably picked up in progress Wolves

765
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: at Portland, and of course you can hear all of

766
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: the Wolves action forever and ever to finish on the

767
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: Timberwolves channel as well. This is helpful Moose. Nine minutes ago,

768
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: federal judge tosses gang member gun case after Minnesota's US

769
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: Attorney Daniel Rosen can't get the case to trial on time.

770
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: This is the second criminal case to get dismissed in

771
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Speaker 2: recent weeks. Extremely rare for that office. I wonder what's

772
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: changing that office the last several weeks. No idea, Dan.

773
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: The State of the Union addresses literally in the Constitution

774
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Speaker 2: Article two, section three. I will take Texter guy at

775
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 2: his word. There to an eight guy, but I don't

776
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: think there's anything that mandates it must go on for

777
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: four days. You can get in and you can get out.

778
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be as as much of the

779
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: political speech as it is. I think you can do

780
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: it any way you want. Yeah, you can do it

781
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: in five minutes if you want to. Has anybody ever

782
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: done it? You know?

783
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 4: How like they do?

784
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: It? Is?

785
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Speaker 2: If the House of Commons what part of the British

786
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: government is it? Where the the the the leader gets

787
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: up and the Prime Minister gets up and he's he

788
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: or she just gets you know, as he's speaking, gets

789
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: hooted and how to? But then don't don't they get

790
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: to ask him questions too?

791
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's and it's so weird. I remember talking about

792
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 4: this when I worked on the Paul Allen projects because

793
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: he stumbled upon it one day and I'd never heard

794
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 4: of it. Yeah, they, but I don't remember. I know

795
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: there's a lot of yelling, but then the yelling ceases

796
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: very quickly.

797
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, yelling like they less offensive for some reason.

798
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: It's strange unless I'm forgetting how it actually went, but

799
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Speaker 3: that's my recollection.

800
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Speaker 4: Sometimes does happen here?

801
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: Is there any possibility knowing his sense of theater in

802
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: the dramatic that during the speech the president announces and

803
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: right now we are. We are with our bombers in

804
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: the air headed. They have already taken out several government

805
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: entities and buildings in Iran. We're still talking about this

806
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: huge build up. There's a lot of discussion that, well,

807
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: we're not sure what we're gonna do. We'll see what

808
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: we're gonna do, depends on negotiations. But knowing him how

809
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: he likes to you know, up the andte what are

810
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: the chances that he announces, Yeah, we just did already

811
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Speaker 2: did some damage. I wouldn't put anything past him.

812
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 4: This is from six to one to two.

813
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: Guy, I voted for Trump and greet completely with your

814
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: assessment of the impact of the surge. I prefer it

815
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: didn't happen and we were still focused on the fraud.

816
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: What's the phrase stole defeat from the jaws of victory. Yeah,

817
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 2: that's pretty much pretty much it. We had Kevin sievern

818
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: On earlier from Indianapolis. The combine has begun. Koc met

819
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: the Jackals today. Rob Brazinski met the Jackals today. I

820
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: want you to to as a person who's you know,

821
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: likes to think he's very close to the people of Minnesota,

822
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm one of us, and you are one of us.

823
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: Give me your sense of the level of interest if

824
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: indeed the veteran quarterback we bring back is Kirk Cousins.

825
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: You mean are people Are people on board with that? Yeah?

826
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: Are they going to be like thrilled? Are they going

827
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: to be Are they going to be? Well, that might

828
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: be the best we can do. Are they gonna be?

829
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: No?

830
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: I don't want any part of them.

831
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Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting is I think the only more polarizing

832
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: quarterback option than JJ McCarty for the Vikings fans, I

833
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 3: think is Kirk Cousins. Because Kirk was polarizing while he

834
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: was here too us a little bit in more of

835
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Speaker 3: his prime. Yeah, So as hitting me with that, I

836
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: think the opinions are going to be all over the

837
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Speaker 3: map on that. So I'm trying to think for me.

838
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: But also there's the amendment of or the notation. Is

839
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Speaker 3: he coming back to be the backup? Is he coming

840
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: back to be the starter?

841
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 4: It sounds like they're done with JJ McCarty, doesn't it

842
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 4: Like it just sounds like they're completely out on them.

843
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 4: Even though they're not completely out on them, they won't

844
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Speaker 4: say that.

845
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Speaker 3: It just seems like the mood has completely soured internally

846
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: on what's going on with JJ Brazinski. I think today

847
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: tried to soften it a little bit more, and Koc

848
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 3: is always going to soften things by saying there's a

849
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: lot of unfortunate things that happened around him, with the

850
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: injuries and not being able to play and all of

851
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: those things. But the mood of cousin, I would say

852
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: most people would kind of shrug and say, well, yeah,

853
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: I might as well. He knows the system, he knows Koc,

854
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: he knows the neighborhood. Let's see if he's got anything left.

855
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

856
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: My My sense is more people are going to be

857
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: bored with it than are excited by it, even if

858
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Speaker 2: they are realistic enough to know what this might be

859
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Speaker 2: the best that.

860
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Speaker 4: We can do. But I I don't know if excitement

861
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: will exist for anybody now that I think. I think

862
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Speaker 4: it's almost like there is. He still hasn't committed to Pittsman.

863
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: No.

864
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Speaker 3: I was talking about by any fans. I's right, not

865
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Speaker 3: the quarterback. The excitement for anybody. I meant like the

866
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Speaker 3: fans wouldn't be excited.

867
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Speaker 4: Oh I see, okay, Yeah, a Rod I would if

868
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: a Rodger was on the table. I would definitely try.

869
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: I I think it's for a lot of people.

870
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 4: It's it's it may not even be fair to cousins.

871
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: It's we've been there, we've seen he's had the sameness

872
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: of it. It would all come back. You know, that's great,

873
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: and we know what he's going to say and how

874
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: he's going to and the kirk Oat change thing.

875
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: We kind of did that, and now here.

876
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: We are back again, tail between our legs, admitting that

877
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: we can't do it the way the best teams in

878
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: the division do it, and we have to hedge our

879
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: bets and bring some aging veteran back just in case

880
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: the quarterback of the future is just not going to

881
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: be good enough.

882
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: I don't my life, Yeah, my life is a Vikings fan.

883
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: What we've done by the way, I think we're Uh.

884
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm being reminded that what one of the things that

885
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: Mars said was you don't even have to You don't

886
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 2: have to give the speech. You can just write a paper,

887
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: hand the paper in to the House and Senate. You

888
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: have to one wear another inform Congress on the state

889
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: of the Union from time to time. But it being example,

890
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: it could be absolutely you do not have to necessarily

891
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: give a speech, and you don't have to give a

892
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: speech that takes as long as the one is expected

893
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 2: to tonight, because I my.

894
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: Guess is it's gonna be it's gonna be full attack

895
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: mode tonight.

896
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: Don't you think I'll be shocked if now the betting

897
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: money early is a right. He's he knows that he's

898
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: got to get the subject back to the economy, and

899
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 2: here's the five steps I'm gonna take to get us

900
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: on the right path for the economy, even though he

901
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: already told us that the tariffs were saving us.

902
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: So you know, that's that's that.

903
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: That's where discipline comes in, because from a discipline standpoint,

904
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: that's what he should do. But I just don't think

905
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 2: he can help himself. And frankly, I think there's several

906
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 2: presidents that be not able to help themselves in that

907
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: situation ends up being a very self serving kind of

908
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: a thing. Are the only thing that could watch the

909
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: horrible taste out of vikings fan smells would be landing

910
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow or someone of his high standing.

911
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 4: Well, that makes it easy, makes it easy.

912
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 2: I think the uh, the there'd be a prohibitive nature

913
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 2: to the to what you'd have to give up. I

914
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: wouldn't hold my breath on that. I even think, who's

915
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 2: the packer backup? We've talked about Aley Willis he actually

916
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: people even though they don't know him as well as

917
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 2: they do cousins, would be more intrigued by because he's

918
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: not spoiled. Right, It's not like we're well, we've we've

919
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: done that and we're back to it. It would be uh,

920
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 2: you know what, He's looked good in a supportive role

921
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: in Green Bay. It looks like he's got a chance.

922
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 2: Somebody's just got to give him a chance. Doesn't mean

923
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 2: he'll end up being great, but I think that would

924
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: be accepted more because it's a fresher face and he's

925
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: going to get a bag. It sounds like he's gonna

926
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: get that's it. Yeah, And then you're back to can

927
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: you can you afford to spend that kind of money?

928
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 2: I don't know what I need to think about more

929
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: or look into more. Is It's stunning to me how

930
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: they have all these salary cap gymnastics to jump through again.

931
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 3: I thought the last handful of years, the first couple

932
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: of years of the Quazy experiment was all about unwinding

933
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 3: all the stuff, and that was part of the reason

934
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: why Cousins wasn't here. And I know they made a

935
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: bunch of free agent signings last year and spent a

936
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: bunch of money, and partially because they have they didn't

937
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: draft well, so they had to do it the last

938
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: couple of years. They put a lot of money up

939
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: back on the books. And I know Brazinski's the greatest

940
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: capologist ever, but I can't believe that this quickly after

941
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: having a bunch of money to spend, we're already back

942
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: to these big numbers. And I know JJ's contract talking

943
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: about Jefferson has something to do with that now because

944
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: that's jumped up. But that's what's wild to me is

945
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: that they spend all that time trying to right size

946
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: the payroll and now it's back to where they've got

947
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 3: to do some gymnastics to get things under control again.

948
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: That's troubling. It is there what I think we talked

949
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: to see for about this. They're forty couple forty two

950
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: million over the cap that kind of thing, so it's

951
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: going to take some work. Although that is his specialty,

952
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: he's great at it. Apparently, maybe you have an advantage

953
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: there because he could say, well, he's been here all along,

954
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: but now he's more of a position of authority where

955
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure he can make moves that he

956
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: otherwise didn't feel he could make because he wasn't in

957
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: charge when when Quasy was still in charge. I think,

958
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't think this is sincere, but I'll read it.

959
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm hoping in twenty twenty eight we can get a

960
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: Democratic president back in office so we can reopen the

961
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: border to the flow of illegal drugs and criminals.

962
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 4: Enjoy your sanctuary city. I don't think you mean you

963
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: think that's satiric. I think, yeah, I think that's sarcastic.

964
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 4: It might be sarcastic too. It's hard to read the

965
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 4: two guys.

966
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: If you're if you're a faithful listener of this program,

967
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: you'll know that the official position of this program, going

968
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: back through several years of the most recent Biden administration

969
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: was he had failed miserably at the border. I think

970
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 2: you can be a Democrat and believe that. Now maybe

971
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 2: you can't. Maybe you got to be too politically correct

972
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: to say it. But if you think you're going to

973
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: hurt my feelings with how things were open, up at

974
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: the border. No, you're I'm with you. You're You're not

975
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 2: hurting my feelings at all. It's a significant issue, Martin.

976
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: Democrats knew it was a significant issue, and quite frankly,

977
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: it's one of the reasons that Biden, among others, had

978
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: no chance to be reelected. And that goes back to

979
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: where my anger and the Democrats don't like when I

980
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 2: say this and they get mad at me, when well,

981
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: you should be mad at him, not mad at us,

982
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: and I say no, no, no, no, I am mad at you.

983
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: I most assuredly am mad at the Jets because you

984
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: opened the door by blindly closing your eyes to the

985
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: significance of this issue at the border, and it handed

986
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: a significant political issue to the opponent, thereby making it

987
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 2: easier that he had a second term in the first place. Yes,

988
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 2: you should be furious with yourselves on that. So everybody

989
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 2: needs to look in the mirror, man, I think that's

990
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: the immoral of the story. Let's come back, wrap things

991
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: up and remind you about what we have coming up tomorrow.

992
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 4: Shure Rat presented by American Pressure commercial grade pressure washers

993
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 4: since nineteen seventy five. It's the bumper to bumper show wrap.

994
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: Koc takes his dressing on the side words salad served

995
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: with salmon, pan fried. Couldn't savor every bite though he

996
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: tried wolves and five. It's a long way to get there,

997
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: but he got there very well done. I want to

998
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: thank you.

999
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that night. Nothing quite like it.

1000
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: It feels like a responsible form of frying where it's

1001
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: not quite as as thick where you go. It's still decadent,

1002
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: but it's lighter, right, Yes, I want to thank her outstanding.

1003
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: A rare guest today that included Kevin Seaffert from the

1004
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: Combine in Indianapolis, Indiana, and Luigi from Florida, celebrating another

1005
00:57:54,520 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: pending Hall of Fame induction, this time the Minnesota the

1006
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: ms what do we call it, the MSHSL.

1007
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame.

1008
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: You know how you know you're in too many Hall

1009
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: of fames, Halls of fame. You're relieved when you're not

1010
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: really needed for anything at.

1011
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: The same At that point, didn't he said, I've already already,

1012
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: he's already given his speech.

1013
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 4: Anything. Yeah, God, I gotta drum up the old speech again.

1014
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: And of course, as the Minnesota State High School League

1015
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,959
Speaker 2: for those who don't pay attention to those things. Louis

1016
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: joined us at three point thirty some leftover Olympic stuff,

1017
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: some Minnesota wild stuff, and we got into We got

1018
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: some great You know. The challenge with Louie is we've

1019
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: had him on for so many years, so often is

1020
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: there anything left that we didn't know? And I think

1021
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: this was newer When I talked to Louis about NBA

1022
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: coaches wearing suits again, the idea of pat Riley. He

1023
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: gave us a little bit of background about why he

1024
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: thinks dressing up is important and how he became influenced

1025
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: very much by his father, the butcher, who dressed probably

1026
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: not in a suit during the day, but wipe the

1027
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: blood off when he came home, washed up, put a

1028
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: suit on, came down to the dinner table, and then

1029
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: then took a walk for.

1030
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: A walk after dinner.

1031
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: This good stuff from Louis sounds nice a fan and

1032
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: de man tonight, and then we've got it's a kind

1033
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: of a basketball double header. One could say on the fan,

1034
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: we've got go for men's basketball at Michigan. That's a

1035
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: tough one and that will take us into Wolves Blazers

1036
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: in Portland. That game can be heard in its entirety

1037
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: on the Timberwolves channel, but will be available eventually on

1038
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: FM one hundred point three as soon as the Gopher

1039
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: Michigan game is over, unless Mike Grimm decides to go

1040
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: along on the post game.

1041
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 3: Which he's been known to do. No, he's the anti

1042
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 3: fol Is that true? Yes, especially gets in get out. Okay,

1043
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: you've got a plane to catch. Yeah, and you've got

1044
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 3: to get out of there. I know the feeling. I've

1045
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: been there.

1046
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 4: You want to talk about pressure getting on a plane.

1047
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 2: How about working at the Indiana Daily Student dateline East Lansing,

1048
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: Michigan in a like a Tuesday night game and I'm

1049
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going with the team. I'm on the team plane.

1050
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: They ain't gonna wait for me. So I basically had

1051
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: to write that, you know, the story during the game,

1052
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: and add like a little bit of a topping, a

1053
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: little bit of ending. Now the beauty of it that

1054
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: year as they were undefeated, so you pretty much knew

1055
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: they were gonna win. You could write ride before. That's pressure.

1056
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: When you're not an official member of the party, your

1057
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: your work for the Daily Dissident, as Knight said, and

1058
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: he he was not gonna They were not gonna hold

1059
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: the bus that was gonna take us to the airport

1060
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: any extra minutes because coach, uh, you know, I can

1061
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 2: I get I got ten more minutes before this deadline.

1062
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 4: Will you let me?

1063
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: Will you let me just play with the story a

1064
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: little bit. No, it wasn't gonna work. That's why you

1065
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: were trained. That's pressure. That's true, very much the case.

1066
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Alec Lewis from the Combine and Pat Kessler from

1067
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: the planet Mars.

1068
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: That's a combination. Tomorrow.

1069
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: Enjoy the evening. Thanks for watching, end listening. We'll talk

1070
01:00:59,120 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: to you tomorrow three o'clock.

1071
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 4: Thank you for the memories, thank you for the great time.

1072
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 4: We love you, Dad.