1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Wild Wednesday on the fan. Leave your 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: shot to take us to Wild Mammoth next Tuesday. Just 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: use the iHeartRadio app, send us a talkback, tell us 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: who your five untouchable players are on the Wild Currently. 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: You can get full details on the contest KFA dot 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: com keyword Contest, CAFA dot com keywort contests. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you win those tickets, you might get 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: the chance to see the Wild's first regulation victory against 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: the Mammoth. I believe it's just ridiculous how they can't 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: solve that. You go back to Arizona as far as 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: I'm concerned, Yeah, go back to a Z Joining me 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: now as we kick off the second hour in order 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: to win for PA. John Krasinsky of The Athletic John 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: Krasinsky via x Joining Me now covers the Minnesota Timberwolves 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 2: for Theeathletic dot Com. 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: How you doing, Johnny? 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 4: Doing great? Nord Know, how's it going for you? Man? 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: Really well? Man? 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: And it was a cool double feature last night, Wild 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: Throttling the Lightning. But prior to that, how about Anthony 21 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: ed were just saying, I'm I'm tired of this. I 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: hate the grizz I don't know who in the heck 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: is on the roster at this point. 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna dump forty one on them and call 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: it at W. 26 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was something, you know, entirely predictable as well. 27 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 5: Like I was telling a couple of people you're kind 28 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 5: of in the back hallways of Target Center before the 29 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 5: game started. 30 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, they're going to be. 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 5: Either leading by a very small margin or trailing at halftime, 32 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 5: and then they're going to put their foot on the 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 5: gas and figure it out. 34 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: And that's what this team does. 35 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 5: It's not always the most satisfying way to watch a game, 36 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 5: but when you. 37 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: See ant kind of ascend. 38 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 5: To and turn that as I turned the dial up 39 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 5: to eleven, like there's just no one more entertaining in 40 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 5: the league to watch. And yeah, in the fourth quarter 41 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 5: last night, I mean, he had that dial all the 42 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 5: way up for much of that quarter and just kind 43 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 5: of took the thing over and made sure they didn't lose. 44 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: And so you just stack another W here anyway you 45 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: can get it. 46 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, and speak of dialing up, how about dialing in? 47 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: Chris Finch joined. 48 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: PA yesterday to kick off the show, and he kind 49 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: of mentioned that he sees the team dialing in that focus. 50 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: Do you see that a bit well, I. 51 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 5: Mean I have seen a little bit more of it, 52 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 5: I will say. I mean, certainly the winning Denver was encouraging, 53 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 5: and you know, you're seeing Julius Randall start to show 54 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 5: a little more activity and come around again. And I 55 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 5: did ask and after the game last night, he said 56 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 5: in his postgame interview with Lea by Olsen that you know, 57 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: this is the most fun that he's ever had on 58 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 5: the court. And I asked him why, and he said 59 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 5: that each fields like things are coming together right now, 60 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 5: like this team is figuring things out, They're getting there, 61 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 5: They're they're putting it all together. They're getting there. You know, 62 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 5: their ducks in a row, and there are certainly stretches 63 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 5: of games where you see that. I'd like to see 64 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 5: a little bit more consistency. I'd like to see, you know, 65 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 5: kind of more wired to wired dominance if you really 66 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 5: believe that this is a team that can go deep 67 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 5: in the playoffs and even come out of the West. 68 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 5: But they have played better, i would say, over the 69 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: last three to four games than they had prior to that, 70 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 5: and so little by little it does there are signs 71 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 5: that it's coming around, I think we still have to 72 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 5: see a little bit more first. 73 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: I want to jump into this kind of I mean 74 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: it's team related, certainly, but just kind of. I really 75 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: enjoy reading what you put out on the Athletic and 76 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: I loved the story that you did about Bones Highland. 77 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: It was about a day and a half ago and 78 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: what stood out to you? And that's part of the 79 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: cool thing. I love what you guys get in terms 80 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: of the leeway to expand on stories and maybe I 81 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: guess you can speak to it more kind of the 82 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: freedom to really dive deep on some of these. But 83 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: what stood out to you in that piece you put 84 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: together on Bones Highland Just the perseverance the man he's 85 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: become where he came from in Delaware, and just everything 86 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: that he has really endured and really triumphed over en 87 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: route to the NBA with a fat smile on his face. 88 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I appreciate the shout out there. 89 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 5: Nor do I do think that a quick advertisement for 90 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 5: the Athletic is like there. You know, nowadays, I think 91 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 5: there is so much more emphasis put on kind of 92 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 5: shorter stories, videos and clips that people can digest quickly 93 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 5: and get their information, and I get that that's part 94 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 5: of the media ecosystem that we live in and the 95 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 5: evolvement that that uh that that fans want. But I 96 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 5: do think that there's also a still a place for 97 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 5: longer form, more in depth storytelling, and and I think 98 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 5: that's our specialty at the athletics, certainly mine and bone. 99 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 5: Tiland just has an incredible story. You know, he when 100 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 5: he was a very highly touted prospect in Wilmington, Delaware, 101 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 5: in a hard kind of area of Wilmington, as you know. 102 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: After his junior season, they were he he lives with 103 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 5: He lived with twelve of his relatives and in a 104 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 5: home and it's two story home, and he was in 105 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 5: his upper floor bedroom when the house caught on fire 106 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 5: and he was trapped in his bedroom, had to climb 107 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 5: out of his window and jump out of the second 108 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 5: story window, and he fell down to the ground and 109 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 5: tore the pateller tendon in his knee. It's a fire 110 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 5: that also claimed the life of his grandmother and an 111 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 5: eleventh month eleven month old cousin. So just an incredible 112 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 5: tragedy that also really just did kind of threaten his 113 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 5: basketball career. But he was able to rehab and get 114 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 5: back on the court, become a first round draft pick 115 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 5: in Denver, had a really good early rookie season, then 116 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 5: kind of maybe got a little bit too kind of 117 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 5: high on his own supply and was really kind of 118 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 5: trying to push for a bigger role and alienated himself 119 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 5: from that group and ended up kind of getting traded 120 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 5: to the Clippers. And two years go by, and he 121 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 5: doesn't really play a whole lot, and then Tim Connelly, 122 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 5: the guy that he draft that drafted him in Denver, 123 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 5: brings him to the Timberwolves on a two way contract 124 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 5: just to kind of keep him. 125 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: Around the league. 126 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 5: And and he really kind of got a dose of 127 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 5: humility through that and and kind of looked at what 128 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 5: he did wrong in Denver, used sort of the tragedy 129 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 5: that he had overcome as fuel for kind of pushing 130 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 5: him forward. And and he's been a really big influence on. 131 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: On this Timberwolves team. Now. 132 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 5: He is a super positive guy. Guys really loved being around. 133 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 5: He brings an electricity to the court when he's in 134 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 5: the game, and now he's a key part of their bench. 135 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 5: And and so it's just kind of one of those 136 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: kind of rags to riches stories that that I really 137 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 5: enjoy telling, and and and Bones deserves all the credit 138 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: for uh for doing everything that it took to get 139 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 5: him to this spot and learn lessons and stay tough 140 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 5: and persevere and and now here he is a part 141 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 5: of a contending team and a big part of one 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 5: as well. 143 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I encourage everyone to go and find John's 144 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: story if you haven't already, Theathletic dot com and take 145 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: a read and learn about Bones and that incredible story 146 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: that you mentioned John, And with that before we get 147 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: back to the here and now. You know, you've been 148 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: around this team in this league for a long time 149 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: and you've seen the enigmatic personalities, the big personalities, good, 150 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: bad and ugly of all of it in the NBA. 151 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: One thing that does kind of impress me about Tim Connelly, 152 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: it's it's about winning games too, straight Western Conference Finals appearances, 153 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: but the player mix, the human element of it. I 154 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: think they've this team's done a pretty good job culture 155 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: wise of finding those types of guys to bring into 156 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: this team. 157 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: And Bones is a great example of that. 158 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, you know, I was talking to one 159 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: of the Memphis writers last night before the game and 160 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 5: just we were kind of talking about both of our 161 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 5: teams and and and how whether it's like covering the wolves, 162 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: and this is absolutely legitimate Nordal Like, it's a great 163 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: walk the room. There is not a jerk in there, 164 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 5: and that's not a common saying in any professional sport, 165 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 5: you know, let alone the NBA. But it's a bunch 166 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 5: of really good guys. You know, they're not perfect by 167 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 5: any stretch of the imagination, but but they are, you know, 168 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 5: Aunt Jaden nas Rudy, Kyle Dante, like all all these guys, Bones, Julius, 169 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 5: all of them are are good hearted dudes that I 170 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 5: you know, sometimes they can be a little moody sometimes, 171 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 5: you know, you wonder like are they are they fully 172 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 5: on board and fully locked into the game plans and 173 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 5: things like that. But as people, they're generally, you know, 174 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 5: good to be around. I think they get along fairly well. 175 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 5: They they talk to each other, They treat people, you know, 176 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 5: with with respect, and and that makes it easier as 177 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 5: a reporter to go into that locker room and get 178 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 5: good answers and informative kind of feedback from the players 179 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: and and trying to you know, tell what's going right 180 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 5: and what's going wrong, And there's not that one guy 181 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 5: that I go in there and I dread having to 182 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 5: talk to and having to ask questions with. They're all 183 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 5: like really engaging and and that's very much appreciated. And 184 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: I do think that's part of Tim Connolly's sort of 185 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 5: evaluation process. He wants to have good guys in that 186 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 5: locker room. He does not want to have jerks that 187 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 5: kind of bring the bring people down and really add 188 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 5: a lot of pressure and toxicity to the environment. And 189 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: and some of the guys that maybe were in that 190 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: category when he first came in, they're gone now. And uh, 191 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 5: I think that was a concerted effort on Tim's part 192 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 5: to to make that happen. And uh, and I think it. 193 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: You know, the good thing for him is it's paying 194 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 5: off with wins on the court as well. 195 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: How about how about slow, slow back with it. What'd 196 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: you think Kyle rejoining the mix? 197 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's really good Norto. I mean, you know, 198 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 5: it was funny last night. He didn't take a shot, 199 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 5: was a kind of a minus five in like fourteen minutes, 200 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 5: So he wasn't like incredibly impactful from a stat producing standpoint. 201 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: But when you think about getting buyout guys. I know 202 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 5: a lot of times around this time of year when 203 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 5: teams signed by out guys, there's just this real celebration of, 204 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, the thunder got this guy, or the 205 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 5: Wolves got this guy, or the Celtics got this guy, 206 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 5: and man, that's going to just make a huge difference 207 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 5: in their championship odds. And most of the time that 208 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 5: you know, is overstated and the guy comes in and 209 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 5: he might play a little bit here and there and 210 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 5: that's it. But I really do think that Kyle Anderson 211 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 5: has a chance to be very helpful to this group. 212 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 5: They need more ball handlers and he can do that. 213 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 5: They need more defensive versatility in the front court when 214 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 5: Rudy Gobert is out, and he can do that. They 215 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: need a guy in the locker room who is kind 216 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 5: of a truth teller, who is a you know, a 217 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 5: guy that people respect, who can kind of call people 218 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 5: out when things aren't going well. And Kyle can do that. 219 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 5: And so, I mean, I don't think he's going to 220 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: be a twenty five minute a night guy, but I 221 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 5: do think that he gives Chris Finch a player that 222 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 5: he trusts to put in in different situations. In a 223 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 5: way that he feels more comfortable with than say a young. 224 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: Player like Terrence Shannon Junior. 225 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 5: And it would be great to get some of the 226 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: rookies and second year guys a little more run. But 227 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 5: they're trying to win a championship right now, and so 228 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 5: I think that the more trusted veteran guys that they 229 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 5: have out there, I think the better it will be 230 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 5: for what they want to accomplish in the immediate future here. 231 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 5: And Kyle Anderson has been welcomed back with open arms, 232 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 5: and so it's a pretty cool thing that he's back in. 233 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: The mix here since you brought him up. Tough year 234 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: for Terrence, right, Terrence Shannon Junior from an injury, and 235 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: just even early on you're thinking what he can do 236 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: post Nikhil Alexander Walker leaving and and steps in and 237 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: it's just it's it's not clicking. 238 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: He gets hurt. 239 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: Now he's back and he's kind of he's in that 240 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: DNP status. 241 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: U what's up with? What is the path forward for him? 242 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: And you mentioned this team's trying to win a title, 243 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: and so maybe this season it's going to be some 244 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: sparing usage down down the stretch, But what is the 245 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 2: path forward for him. 246 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I still think he has a possibility of a future, 247 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 5: certainly with this team Nordo. 248 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 4: I mean, he is a big. 249 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 5: Strong kid that it can get up and down the court. 250 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 5: I think that one thing that we have seen so 251 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 5: far this year, he had a ton of expectations coming 252 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 5: into the season, had a really good summer, played really 253 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 5: well in Summer League. But I think one thing that 254 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 5: he kind of found out as he made more of 255 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: a name for himself is that when you know when 256 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: teams are scouting you, when teams are actually looking at 257 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 5: at what you do well and what you do poorly 258 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: and how to attack you, it requires the player to 259 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 5: make adjustments off of that. 260 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: And I think that you know, early on and. 261 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 5: A lot of last season, Shannon came in and nobody 262 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: knew what he brought to the table, and so he 263 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 5: just used his speed and his power to kind of 264 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 5: overwhelm the teams. 265 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,119 Speaker 4: Sometimes. 266 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 5: Well, now they know that he doesn't have much of 267 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 5: a right hand, they know that there's a few other 268 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 5: things that weaknesses that he has in his game, and 269 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 5: so it's on him to sort of adjust to that 270 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 5: and keep working and tailor his game to how opponents 271 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 5: are playing him, and you know he also the injury 272 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: is a big part of things here. The foot has 273 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 5: not been good for most of the season and that 274 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 5: has limited his explosiveness, especially on defense, his ability to 275 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: change directions. So whether or not he contributes a lot 276 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 5: more this year, I think having another summer to work 277 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: on his game predibly hard worker. I think you still 278 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 5: have a chance to be a rotation player, but it's 279 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 5: just maybe not coming as quickly as people would have hoped. 280 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: As John Krasinski Johnny k johnny athleticviathletic dot com, follow 281 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: him on x at j O n k r A 282 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: w cz Y and ski time for a few more here. 283 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: Chris Finch joined yesterday with pa I mentioned that, and 284 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: along with talking about just what they're seeing moving forward, 285 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: he did mention a little bit about the dynamic and 286 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: the relationship between himself and Anthony Edwards. Now, you and 287 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: anybody within ten feet of the Timberwolves from a reporting standpoint, 288 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: all of you have reported in depth about just you know, 289 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: it looks loud, it looks ugly, it looks volatile, it 290 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: looks contentious, but here's what it is behind the scenes. 291 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: And Finch kind of he talked about that and just 292 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: competitive personalities, and they both want to win. They have 293 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: an immense amount of respect and appreciation for each other. 294 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: Does that is there any part of that that does 295 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: lead potentially to I mean, does it speak to where 296 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: am I going with this? Does it speak to the 297 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: emotion and potential inconsistency of this team? 298 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: However? 299 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like I do think that they are 300 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 5: too ultracompetitive guys to emotional guys and very prideful guys. 301 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: And so. 302 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: The way that those types of people communicate with each other, 303 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 5: especially in high pressure moments, can sometimes be more volatile. 304 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: You can, it can sometimes be a little more in 305 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 5: your face, and you know, the sort of the banker 306 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 5: out there, the mechanic out there, the journalists out there, 307 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 5: if other people out there who watch this and see 308 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 5: it on. 309 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: TV or or in the arena. 310 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 5: And watching you look at it and say, man, that 311 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 5: must be a terrible situation. Because in my workplace that 312 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 5: would reply and and that would be kind of indicative 313 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 5: of really big problems. But in this arena, it literally 314 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 5: it is sometimes how guys communicate. And the important part 315 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 5: or subtext about that is the personalities of both of 316 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 5: them are such that they can yell and be yelled 317 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 5: at and then move on quickly. Like there are people 318 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 5: there are certainly players and coaches, and there's other people 319 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: that can be more sensitive to that, and so those 320 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 5: interactions can linger and confester and can really turn into 321 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 5: big time problems. But with Ant and Finch, they have 322 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 5: just shown time and again over the course of their 323 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 5: relationship that they can have disagreements, they can have even 324 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 5: forceful interactions, and then they move past it very very quickly. 325 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 5: They forget about it. They don't hold grudges. They usually 326 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 5: one will apologize to the other, or one will go 327 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 5: and or the air with the other, and and and 328 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 5: and then they move on. So I think that that's 329 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 5: all so far been very healthy. We will see, though, 330 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 5: nor honestly, how this goes into the playoffs, because they 331 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 5: are in They will be entering these playoffs with more 332 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 5: pressure on them than ever before. And how do both 333 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 5: of those guys, the star and the coach handle that. 334 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 5: How does that trickle down to the rest of the 335 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 5: team in times of adversity. We will see, But as 336 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 5: of right now, I don't have a concern really that 337 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 5: they're reaching some sort of breaking point that there is 338 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 5: some sort of schism to use an old Vikings term 339 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 5: around here. So I just think that they are two 340 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 5: guys with a lot of juice and and when the 341 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 5: when the when the lights are bright and the temperatures hot, 342 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: they can bark at each other, but neither one of 343 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 5: them takes it personally, and they just they just keep 344 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 5: moving forward, and that's been very productive, been successful for 345 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 5: them to this point. 346 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: Last thing for you, I just on a more simple 347 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: note with with more, with more games under the belt 348 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: of Io Desumo, what do you see him impacting? What's 349 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: different or potentially even better with Desumo in the mix. 350 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's definitely. 351 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 5: Over the last couple of games, Nordo looked more comfortable 352 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 5: with where he fits on both ends of the floor. 353 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 5: We were talking to him last night and he said 354 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 5: he's still trying to figure things out and he's still 355 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 5: a long ways away from where he wants to be. 356 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 5: But certainly early on in the very first few games 357 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 5: after coming over in the trade, you could see that 358 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 5: he was tentative that he didn't exactly know how to 359 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 5: play with his teammates on either side of the floor, 360 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 5: And so then you are seeing some pretty like ugly 361 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 5: plus minus numbers. He was minus thirty three I think 362 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 5: in one of the games, minus twenty five in another, 363 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 5: and so you're just like, what's what's kind of going 364 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 5: on here? But too in particular, he looks much more 365 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 5: like the Io dessum MoU that you saw in Chicago, decisive, 366 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 5: getting down hill, getting to the basket, getting out in transition, 367 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 5: being a little more disruptive defensively. And I think that's 368 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 5: all about learning his teammates, learning the system a little 369 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 5: bit more. He is a smart guy. He is really athletic. 370 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 5: He is big and strong, and he's a great fit 371 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 5: for them. I think it just is going to take 372 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 5: time for everyone to just get familiar with each other, 373 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 5: and every game that goes on he looks more comfortable. 374 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 5: It looks like he needs to. What they've focused on 375 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 5: with him is to not defer as much. And it's 376 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 5: very kind of natural for a newcomer to try to 377 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 5: come in and be polite, especially with bigger stars like 378 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 5: Anton Julius and those guys and more established players. I'm 379 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 5: going to just defer to them. I'm going to give 380 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 5: get the ball to them and let them go to work. 381 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 5: I don't want to step on toes, but they want 382 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 5: Io to step on toes. They want him to be aggressive, 383 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 5: they want him to look for his own shots. The 384 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 5: more aggressive and assertive he becomes, I think, the more 385 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 5: dangerous the team becomes as a whole. And I think 386 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 5: we're getting closer to that point with him. He's starting 387 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: to look really good. 388 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: I dig that, and I dig your work, and I 389 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: appreciate you giving me time this morning, my friend. Have 390 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: an awesome week, and we'll catch up again soon. 391 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 6: All right, thanks talking to man. 392 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. 393 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: That's John Krasinsky of v Athletic Vathletic dot com at 394 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: John Krasinsky via x And because I practiced this in 395 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: the mirror, uh each day before before I go to work. 396 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: It is at j O N k r A w 397 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: c z y n s k I and it's been 398 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: as I mentioned with John, it's been reported on so 399 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: so deeply because it is jarring. And I like the 400 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: way that that Krazinsky. You know that Johnny took it 401 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: the way or the direction that he did in relation 402 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: to you know, here's what it is. 403 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 3: Now, here's what we know. 404 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: And you have these these massive personality these that can 405 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: collide when things get hot. Now we need to see, 406 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: of course, with more pressure on them really than at 407 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: any point during Finch's tenure here and in Anthony's career 408 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: with two straight Western Conference Finals appearances, you know what 409 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: this thing is going to look like moving forward when 410 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: things get hot and the games count in a playoff series. 411 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: It just kind of clicked in my head and it's 412 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: been a kind of, you know, the inconsistency piece with 413 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: this team, and I just think about that volatility word 414 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: as it as it sits in moments where you're watching 415 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: that take place from your coach and your star player. 416 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 2: I just wonder how that trickle down effect is in 417 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: terms of how it could potentially the emotional nature of 418 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: this game lead maybe to some of the inconsistencies in 419 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: certain aspects and on certain nights as part of that 420 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: with Finchy and Ant. But for now it's working. They've 421 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: won four straight and it's got to be third spot 422 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: or bust. 423 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 3: Still. 424 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: I think it's one more win, one more loss maybe 425 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: then the Houston rockets Houston one I think last night. 426 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: So you're still chasing that third again. I think it's 427 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: Spurs and Okac in the top two, and that's already 428 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 2: been decided. With so few games remaining, but an opportunity 429 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 2: to jump into the three spot. The way they match up, 430 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: I think they actually Wemby and all things included if 431 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: there was a postseason series. I like how the Wolves 432 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: match up against those Spurs. But there's still time. I mean, 433 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: as mundy as the West is, that's the frustrating thing. 434 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: The bottom's kind of falling out on the Western Conference, 435 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: but you're still six deep in terms of trying to 436 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: figure out what is this team, what can they be? 437 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: How far can they go? And we're just so close 438 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: to the postseason. I want to start breaking down those 439 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: probable matchups, but everything's so freaking subject to change on 440 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 2: a night by a night basis. But thanks as always, 441 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: John Krasinski. And again I'm not getting paid by the athletic. 442 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: Here read that piece on bones. It's an awesome piece 443 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: of work that Johnny did. Here's what we're gonna do. 444 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna pause and when we return next segment, head 445 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: coach in the Minnesota while John Hines. I'm expected to 446 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: chat with John after the five to one win, a 447 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 2: couple of days to chill before they had to Vegas 448 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: and face the Golden Knights on Friday night back to 449 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: Wild Hockey. Before we hear from the TV box Anthony 450 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: Lapanta at eleven. That's the timber Tech setlist redo and 451 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: we're going to join the head coach when we return 452 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: next here on the fan's. 453 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: Nugget free, it's fun loose favor favor of open ice. 454 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: HiT's caprice hit the red life, I'm back in it shot. 455 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: He's gone. 456 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 6: Over Marion, they do franchise leader. 457 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: In career goals. His Carrino caprice up. 458 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: It's into the emptied after number two twenty. 459 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: And the wild and from by one lad. 460 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 6: The nerd. 461 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 3: That was indeed we heard it from Alex day Lock. 462 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: A terrific call by Joe O'Donnell there part of the 463 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: five to one victory last night Wild beating the Tampa 464 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: Bay Lightning at Grand Casino Arena. 465 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: A little record setting moment there. 466 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: And well, let's stalk to the guy that was front 467 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: row center for that, John Hines, head coach of the 468 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: Minnesota while joining nine to new and how are. 469 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: You doing John? 470 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 6: I'm great in order, how are you doing that? 471 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: I'm doing well and always appreciate your time. Congratulations on 472 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: the victory and certainly a fun moment for Carill capriz 473 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: Off last night with his notching his two hundred and 474 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: twentieth goal in a wild sweater and setting a new 475 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: franchise record. 476 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 477 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 6: Thanks. It was obviously a good win. I thought the 478 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 6: guys really really played well, and I think we gathered 479 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 6: ourselves after the last couple of games against Saint Louis 480 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 6: and Utah, So it was nice to see the stylo 481 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 6: game that we played and the guys get back to what, 482 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 6: you know, the game that gives us the best chance 483 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 6: to win night in the night out. And as far 484 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 6: as Caerill goals, it's a tremendous accomplishment obviously to Pasco 485 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 6: bar for the all time goals and you know, in 486 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 6: really such a short amount of time him in his 487 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 6: young NHL career, and he's a pleasure to coach, he's 488 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 6: a pleasure to watch. And was just really happy for 489 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 6: him that he had some looks earlier in the game. 490 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 6: You know, he wound up with the with the empty netter, 491 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 6: but he had about two empty netters that he could 492 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 6: have had earlier too, So I'm happy for him. 493 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: It's a great accomplishment, it is, indeed, and he did 494 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: have a few chances. I almost imagined in the dressing 495 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: room after the game, they're like, hey, congratulations on the record. 496 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: But I mean it was just an empty netter. I 497 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: mean it's almost like they had to give it to you. 498 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 2: He couldn't buy one earlier in the game. He had 499 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: some great chances last night, John. 500 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, he certainly deserved it, though. You know, you look 501 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 6: at I've been very impressed with him, even since he's 502 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 6: come out of the breaks. He looks, you know, just 503 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 6: laser focused. He's got great jump to his game. He's 504 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 6: highly competitive. So that's a really good sign for for 505 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 6: Carill but also our team that he's come come back 506 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 6: from the break and he's dialed in. 507 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you mentioned the team gathering, gathering yourselves after 508 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: after a couple of losses in a row. 509 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 6: There. 510 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: I know Kucharov does get through in the second period 511 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: last night, but what was really working for you guys 512 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: in limiting dangerous chances overall for him and the visitors. 513 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 6: You know, I think we did a you know, I 514 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 6: felt like when we come back from the break. The 515 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 6: Colorado game was pretty good. It was a highly competitive game. 516 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: You know. 517 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 6: The Utah game just wasn't indicative of how we want 518 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 6: to play, whether that's from a competitive standpoint, structurally, whatever 519 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 6: it is. Some days you're going to have some nights 520 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 6: like that over the course eighty two games. You know, 521 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 6: I thought the Saint Louis game, we were okay. I 522 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 6: think we had a chance to win the game, but 523 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 6: it wasn't really the identity we wanted to play with. 524 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 6: So when we got back to I think much much more. 525 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 6: We played a faster game. We moved pocks north. I 526 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 6: thought our checking structure up the ice in the offensive zone. 527 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 6: In the neutral zone, we were much more on our 528 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 6: toes and we didn't give We didn't give easy ice 529 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 6: and easy looks. We made them earn if they were 530 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 6: going to get a chance, that they had to earn them. 531 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 6: And that was the focal point going into the game, 532 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 6: and the guys did a heck of a job executing. 533 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier in the show Chatting Hockey with 534 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 2: with Alex Staylock. He was doing analysis on the Right 535 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: you know broadcast last night and just kind of thinking 536 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: about Brock faber John that I do typically think of 537 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 2: him defense first. In terms of Brock's game and what 538 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: he brings to this team at a super high level. 539 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: But then I watch that goal last night and you're like, 540 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: wait a minute, hold on, He's got fourteen this year. 541 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: You just the the evolution of his game. 542 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: Maybe it's playing with Hughes, but in his own right, 543 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: the ability to evolve and get better. Just brock Faber 544 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: continues to amaze me night after night. 545 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 546 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 6: You know, I think when faves for you know, first 547 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 6: came in, you know, I think that was that was 548 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 6: kind of you know a little bit of what a 549 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 6: stick was when he was, you know, coming up to 550 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 6: college and things like that. Was he was a great 551 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 6: skating hard to play play against, kind of I don't 552 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 6: want to say defense first, but more of a more 553 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 6: of a more of a uh defensive defenseman. But you know, 554 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 6: I think when you look at his skating skating ability, 555 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 6: he does have good puck skills. He's a high he's 556 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 6: an elite competitor. And you know what I found with 557 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 6: him coach him was he's always looking for ways to 558 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 6: get better. And then he comes he turns pro and 559 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 6: you know, based on opportunity and some things that happened 560 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 6: with our team, he got some opportunities on the power play, 561 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 6: which was new to him, and then I think he 562 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 6: found some footing there, and he just continues to evolve 563 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 6: his game. You know, even last year or at our 564 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 6: exit meeting last year, he's like, hey, what do you 565 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 6: think I need to get better at? What do I 566 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 6: need to work on? And you know, in the summertime, 567 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 6: you can't work on necessarily defense, but you can work 568 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 6: on your body and conditioning, but also your puff skills. 569 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 6: And he's a highly talented player that's always looking to improve. 570 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 6: So it's nice to see his game evolving on both 571 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 6: sides of the bucket. 572 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: What do you look for, John as the head coach 573 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: when you see a guy like Robbie Fabric getting his 574 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: first shifts with the team as he did last night? 575 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: What are you looking for when someone debuts and just 576 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: kind of trying to work his way into the system. 577 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 6: Really exactly what Robbie did last night. I thought he 578 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 6: came out, you know, he played with energy, he was competitive, 579 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 6: He had a couple of hits early. I think he 580 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 6: had a couple of scoring chances. Well, you know, it 581 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 6: was nice to see him come in and and and 582 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 6: kind of show us a little bit of what what 583 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 6: he what he can bring on this team. And it's 584 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 6: a small sample size. But I think, you know, being 585 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 6: picked up on waivers and coming in meeting a new 586 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 6: team and playing the way they played last night, it 587 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 6: certainly was encouraging for us to see that, and I 588 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 6: think he felt good about about his game as well, 589 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 6: and now we want to continue to build on that. 590 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: You know, similar little bit different. You hadn't seen Jonas Brodin. 591 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: On the ice for a while, and you know, as 592 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: an outsider, it just felt, you know, I'm just kind 593 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: of like, Okay, when when were we going to get 594 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: to see Jonas again? We get the Olympic pause and 595 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: all of that, he comes back. I thought he looked 596 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: pretty good. Coach, what did you see? 597 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 6: I would agree with you. I think he looked he 598 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 6: looked really good. I mean he was conditioning, looked good, skating, 599 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 6: skating was on point. I thought he moved the puck well, 600 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 6: you know, he's always a difficult player against UH from 601 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 6: a defensive standpoint, but I like the speed, conditioning, puck movement, 602 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 6: you know, those things we're ron pile last night for him. 603 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 6: So it's great to have him back in line up. 604 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, And I saw the announcement yesterday Michael McCarran 605 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: is joining the squad and a move with the Predators. Uh, 606 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: you coached McCarran in Nashville if if I'm correct on that, 607 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: What what do we know about Michael McCarran and how 608 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: excited are we to see him come to Saint Paul. 609 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think first and foremost, he's a 610 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 6: he's a great Uh, he's a great kid. You know, 611 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 6: he's got a lot of character. He's uh, you know, 612 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 6: he's got wife and some kids. He's going to come in. 613 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 6: So I think when you add a player into your team, 614 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 6: it's not just the player, it's the person and the 615 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 6: people that he brings with him. He's got a great family, 616 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 6: great background. So the person entering our our team in 617 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 6: locker room and organization is is what you want. And then, uh, 618 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 6: you know, from a hockey standpoint, Uh, you know, he's 619 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 6: a big, strong player. He can play stunner and wing, 620 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 6: right shot, very good face off guy, He helps on 621 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 6: the penalty kill, bring some physicality. 622 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: You know. 623 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 6: I think he's a multi dimensional player, and you know, 624 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 6: I think he's going to bring he brings some energy on. 625 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 4: And off the ice, you know, into your team. 626 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 6: So we're excited to have him. I think that he's 627 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 6: going to fit in well with our group and how 628 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 6: we want to play. But you know, I think when 629 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 6: you put the team together and looking towards you know, 630 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 6: the end of the season here and then into the playoffs, 631 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 6: is you have to have guys that I think can 632 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 6: fill roles and there's little things that make a huge 633 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 6: difference in games and in a playoff series. You know, 634 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 6: as we all know, face off is important, physicality is important, 635 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 6: penalty killing is important. You know, having lines and identity 636 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 6: lines are really important. So you know, I think he's 637 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 6: going to add some some strong elements to our group. 638 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, strong elements for sure. Six two hundred and thirty 639 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: pounds is what he was listed at. And watch it 640 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: anytime you join me, John, and I always appreciate it. 641 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: I always have the dumbest question you're going to get 642 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: all day, and here it is, Michael McCarron, sixty six 643 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: two thirty. When you're that big, and I remember watching 644 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 2: the Olympics Tage Thompson, he's six six, just a giant 645 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: out there, right. What are traits when you're a player 646 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: that size? What is the challenge in terms of trying 647 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: to keep up with those five ten five eleven speedsters 648 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: when you're six six and two thirty, like mister McCarron is, yeah, 649 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: you know, I think. 650 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 6: It comes down to a couple of things. One is 651 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 6: those big guys. You know, if they're in good shape 652 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 6: and there and they got some power to them. You know, 653 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 6: the younger guys could be quicker, but you know, the 654 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 6: big guys they have a lot of reach. They can 655 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 6: take up a lot of space if they're willing skaters 656 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 6: like Pages and like Michael r that because I think 657 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 6: their size and reach, both of those players are big players, 658 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 6: but they're both pretty smart, so I think the anticipation, 659 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 6: the anticipation skills help as well. And then the other 660 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 6: thing too is you know there's also advantages to be 661 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 6: in that big Like I said, you have a long wingspang, 662 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 6: long reach, good stick detail, heavy on the pluck, you 663 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 6: can carry a lot of ground. You know, when there 664 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 6: needs to be physicality, you know you're you're usually on 665 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 6: the on the top side of that. So you know, 666 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 6: I think it's like every player, whether you're smaller, whether 667 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 6: you're big, it's it's do you use your assets to 668 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 6: a high level. And we feel with a guy like 669 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 6: Mccaaren some of the things that he brings to our team, 670 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 6: the intangible things and the details of the game, you know, 671 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 6: are are important and are going to make us. 672 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: Better at Sehn Hines, head coach in the Minnesota Wild. 673 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: Last thing for you is simply enough, it's Friday night 674 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: in Vegas. You know, just kind of a whirlwind coming 675 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: back from the pause with the back to back, not 676 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: a lot of time to just take a breath. You 677 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: kind of get an extra day here before you go 678 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: to Vegas. Would you consider that to be a much 679 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: needed breath or just a good opportunity to kind of 680 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: reset things with with a with a great schedule in 681 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: front of you. 682 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. You know, we came back from 683 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 6: you know, we we had a really good run prior 684 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 6: to the prior to the break, and then you know, 685 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 6: everyone's going there different ways and some of some guys 686 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 6: in the Olympics, some guys are off. Then when we 687 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 6: come back, we had so many guys at the Olympics 688 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 6: that were practiced with a small group and then and 689 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 6: you know, we come right back and go on the 690 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 6: road and played a good game, played a bad game, 691 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 6: played an average game. We had a day off, thought 692 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 6: we had a really productive morning yesterday, just resetting our 693 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 6: minds and what we need to do. I thought we 694 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 6: played a really good game last night. Guys, get a 695 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 6: breather again today, and you know, I'm excited we get 696 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 6: a good practice tomorrow before we leave, and then we 697 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 6: got two big games, right, We got Vegas and color 698 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 6: out on the weekend and a practice to start it 699 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 6: off tomorrow. So I think it's a good reset and 700 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 6: just keep moving forward and getting better and building our 701 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 6: team game and building our individual game here down the stretch. 702 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, Thanks as always again for joining us 703 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: nine to now, and have a terrific weekend with with 704 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: Vegas and Colorado on the horizon, and hope we get 705 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: the chance to chat next week. 706 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 6: All right, thanks Donald, take care man, always a pleasure. 707 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 6: Thank you. 708 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: That's John Hines, head coach in the Minnesota. While they 709 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: do get to take a breath today and again next 710 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: up a Friday night affair, hitting that text line for 711 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: Fallness and Alex stay lock and hopefully getting two points 712 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: out in Vegas with those goldens. 713 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: Some news around the corner. 714 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 2: I do want to kind of hijack a bit of it, 715 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: jump back, I'm sure Brett's got some Vikings bits in 716 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: his news his news bag. But then Anthony La Panta, 717 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: your TV voice of the Minnesota Wild, will be in 718 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: studio at eleven. It's the fan man. Hey, Brett, Hey, 719 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: what the hockey Tournament's on forty five TV, right? 720 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 3: I believe? 721 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 4: So okay? 722 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: And you can also hear coverage of it starting tomorrow 723 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: on KFA and Plus ninety six to seven, and. 724 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: Also right here on the same Zach Alverson on the call. 725 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 3: That's correct. 726 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 727 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 3: The reason I'm all this mixed in, the reason I'm 728 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: asking is I get it. 729 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 2: It's high school hockey, so maybe they don't put together 730 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: like an hour long pregame or something. 731 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 3: But I've had this thing. It's like the Kelly Clarkson Show. 732 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 2: I had like Pink and Nev Campbell on there a 733 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: bit ago while I was talking to Heinz, and now 734 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: I think that's Kelly. I don't know, I haven't seen 735 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: Kelly Clarkson in years, but I just feel like I'm 736 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: being like, there's a ruse, like I just need this 737 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: to become hockey. And I guess I got to wait 738 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 2: nine more minutes, but yeah, could it? I just take 739 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: me next year? We do a pregame. 740 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,959 Speaker 3: I don't know any anyway, Kelly Clarkson show on my TV. 741 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: Here in the studio, News de. 742 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 2: Nord's brought to you by the Casino at Canterbury Parkcanterbury 743 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: Park dot com. Feeling the felt all your long live 744 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: racing and play in the spring and tons of shows, 745 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: tons of things to I mean, bring the whole family, 746 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 2: that's what you do. Just drive down to my favorite 747 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: spot in Shocopy. Bring the whole family to Canterbury and 748 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: you'll have a blast. Where we headed to first Brett number. 749 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 3: We'll had a new. 750 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: Winter park out and egan a couple of cap related 751 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: bits for your Minnesota Vikings. First off, on the potential quarterback, 752 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: he's one of two as of now, I mean maybe 753 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: you throw in well, there's all kinds of there's all options, 754 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: there's Circo change or it could be Tua. 755 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be I think as of today 756 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: it's gonna be Kyler or Gino Smith and six four 757 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 2: six eight six. I mean that the text line, Yeah, no, 758 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: that's what I'm That's what I'm getting. That's what I'm 759 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: get here at a super high level. Why would we 760 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 2: bring in Kyler. Does that mean yeah, is Ryan Wright 761 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: likely to be out with Kyler? I don't like the Vikes. 762 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: I don't think the Vikes have the cap room to 763 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: carry two punters. That's Nate, Yeah, I get it. Kirk 764 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: Cousins hands down the best option. That's Steve from Adnah Robert, 765 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: I can't believe we're discussing Geno Smith, Kyler Murray. The 766 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: Vikings need to consider another route that starts with a bee, 767 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 2: as in bottoming out. Putting Grenard on the trading block 768 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 2: is the correct call. That's what Robert thinks. All right, 769 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I know it sounds weird. 770 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 2: I will say this. I got a text message, why 771 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 2: are we considering Gino Smith? Seattle dump him to sign 772 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold so we take their garbage. Actually, they moved 773 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: on from Geno Smith because he wanted forty million dollars 774 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 2: a year. The Seahawks were going to re sign him, 775 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: they were efforting a new contract. He wanted too much money, 776 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 2: so then they did move on absolutely, and then he 777 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: was hideous in Las Vegas. 778 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 3: I get it, I get it. I'm just this isn't 779 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 3: necessarily what I wanted to happen. 780 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 2: I wanted number nine, our tenth overall pick, to be 781 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: a star and a budding superstar, and it's not happening. So, yes, 782 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: we're talking about Kyler and Ginos Smith killing the Messenger. 783 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 2: Nordo has lost his ever love in mind, that's Stephen Casey. Hey, 784 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 2: why don't we see if Ponder wants to make a comeback. 785 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: So now, yes, I'm getting it. I get it, I 786 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 2: get it. 787 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 788 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm just a Vikings loving rube and this is all 789 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: very weird. I just want the team to be good again. 790 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: Where are we headed next? 791 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: Well, So, according to CBS Sports Jonathan Jones, a Kyler, yeah, 792 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: will most likely sign for a VET minimum that's one 793 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: point three million when he becomes a free agent. That 794 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: would help with the cap situation where you're having to 795 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: gut a lot of people, including our grave. 796 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, maybe that's maybe that's true. I still I 797 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't buy it. He's going to 798 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: be released on Wednesday when the league year starts, and 799 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: if he's signed for the league minimum, you will have 800 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: probably three or four different suitors. There's there's got to 801 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: be a handful of teams that would say Kyler that talent. Yeah, 802 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 2: injury issues and all of that, but one point three 803 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 2: million sign me up? 804 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 3: So I still think. 805 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you're probably seeing seven, eight, nine, ten million dollars. 806 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 3: For a one year deal. I don't know. 807 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 2: I could be out of I could have lost my 808 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: ever love and mind per Steve in case, I just don't. 809 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 2: It's not going to be a ton of cash, but 810 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: I think it'll be more than a fat minimum. 811 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 3: We'll see. 812 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: But on that note, Grenard's is going to be one 813 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: of those cat casualties most likely. It looks like they're 814 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: willing to move him one way or the other. Your thoughts, well, 815 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: there's there's not enough time because I want to get 816 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: to Anthony Lapanta here. But it does bear in mind. 817 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 2: And Pa is going to be back, by the way, 818 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 2: the host of I the Noon returning tomorrow, and I'm 819 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: certain of this that we'll discuss this more. And the 820 00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 2: text that I sent him yesterday is do you think 821 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 2: Dallas Turner is ready? Do you think Dallas Turner is ready? 822 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 2: And the reason I bring that up is if you 823 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: trade Grenard? And I've heard all kinds of ideas that 824 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 2: have kind of spawned from that day. Two pick XYZ 825 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 2: potential player. 826 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 3: Who knows where that goes? Or are you packaging to 827 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 3: move up in the draft. 828 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 2: There are certainly options that the Vikings would have, but 829 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 2: per Schefter, the Vikings would like to keep Grenard, but 830 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: they also have salary cap issues. Okay, so we know 831 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: that Bernard wants a raise. What's a little market correction 832 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: on what he's doing for the Purple. I still think 833 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: they figure out a way to keep them. And with 834 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 2: Dallas Turner, I'm really split on it. Certainly better in 835 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. The idea that's simply because he was 836 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: a first round pick and it's year three that we 837 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: have to start him. That makes zero sense to me. 838 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: Either he's worthy of a starting spot or he's not. 839 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 2: He was splash here in twenty twenty five. That came 840 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: with the reps in the opportunity seven hundred snaps and 841 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: change versus three hundred his rookie year, So he's. 842 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 3: On the field more. 843 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 2: He made some plays. Part of that sack number covered 844 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: sacks I didn't think. I still don't think he's twitchy 845 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: or fast enough or savvy enough to consistently beat tackles 846 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 2: off the line. 847 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 3: That's just one man's opinion, but again, he was much 848 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 3: better in year two. 849 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 2: I'm not writing off Dallas Turner, and I hate how 850 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: these conversations have to be. It's either Grenard starts because 851 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 2: Turner is awful, or Turner has to start because he's amazing. 852 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: The truth's line in the middle from my standpoint here, 853 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 2: and I'm not against him getting the opportunity that. 854 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 3: The thing that I would be against, though, is. 855 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: If you're rolling into twenty twenty six or rolling into 856 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 2: the draft and it's it's Turner and Andrew Van Ginkel 857 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 2: as your bookending excuse me, bookending pass rushers the thing 858 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: for me, you know. And I'm not in charge of 859 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 2: the money. I'm not in charge of making decisions and 860 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: making moves. The thing that would make more sense to 861 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 2: me is you find a way to get Grenard happy 862 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: and whatever that market correction and money looks like, and 863 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 2: maybe you move Andrew Van Giggle if you were going 864 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 2: to move. Somebody missed five games last year. He's got 865 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: the next thing, and I love I love, I love 866 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: Van Ginkle Van Ginkle style, but it's the last year 867 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 2: of his deal coming up. 868 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 3: He's older, about to turn thirty one. He did miss 869 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 3: that time. 870 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: Now, Grenard missed time last year with the shoulder too, 871 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: so I get all of that, but. 872 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 4: I just. 873 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 2: I'm not sold on Turner being the answer and the 874 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: true one for one replacement there. 875 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 3: But he still has a right to grow still very young. 876 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: In all of that, twenty five was a significant growth 877 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: in comparison to his rookie season. 878 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 3: He did make plays, he was splashy at times. 879 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to lose Jonathan Grinard, and I don't 880 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: think the team wants to lose him either. So right now, 881 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: if I had to bet, I would bet on the 882 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 2: team finding a way to make could work with Grenard 883 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 2: so that he stays here. Again, one man's opinion, but 884 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 2: that's where we're at on that. Oh, mister Lapant is here. 885 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: Wild throttled the lightning last night. Yes, Wolves handled Grizzlies 886 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: thanks to forty one from Aunt. 887 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 3: And that's about News de Nord, Right, Yeah, that's about it. 888 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: Party on, Thank you, Brett, Brett Blake Moore leading News 889 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 2: de Noord brought to you by the Casino at Canterbury 890 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 2: Parkcanterbury Park dot com. A hockey heavy presentation will continue 891 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 2: to be such. I got eventually once the Kelly Clarkson 892 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 2: Show finally ends. I'm going to get to watch some 893 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 2: high school hockey and I'm gonna get to chat hockey 894 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 2: with Anthony Lapanta. Final Hour ahead nine to noon