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Speaker 1: It is a very happy Friday my perspective, anyway, I'm

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Speaker 2: When there he is.

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Speaker 1: Jack Windsor from the High Press Network joins a program

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Speaker 1: every week at this time we try to get Jack

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Speaker 1: Winsor on. You can find him online at the Ohio

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Speaker 1: Pressnetwork dot com and I'll encourage you bookmark that site.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jack Windsor. It's good to have you on

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Speaker 1: the program, and good to see you. I can see you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to be on with you. It's always

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Speaker 3: an honor and a pleasure. Thanks for choosing me.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it's fun having a conversation with you. You really

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Speaker 1: do pay very close attention and you're you know, you

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Speaker 1: got excellent comments and a student observations on things going

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Speaker 1: on in around Ohio. And I'm going to throw you

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a curb. I know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be talking about the rank choice voting the other day,

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Speaker 1: which was a great outcome. And people don't understand, obviously

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Speaker 1: the supremacy clause in various states trying to prohibit ice

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Speaker 1: coming into their neighborhoods, because it's the problem with that

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Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati. But first, I know you're

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Speaker 1: a huge fan of giving the Cleveland brown six hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars for their stadium. You see all the people

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Speaker 1: or at least trying to jack.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, And you know that's the thing. Once you

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Speaker 3: open that door, everybody wants to walk in. And I

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Speaker 3: say jokingly, but part of me means it. The Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Browns might I don't know, they might deliver some sort

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Speaker 3: of public service. But I look at what you and

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Speaker 3: I do, Brian, and what we do I think is

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Speaker 3: more important for equipping voters to fulfill their civic duty.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we get a few million dollars?

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Speaker 1: That's me right, I was asking that question loud, all right,

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Speaker 1: because the reality, as we all know this, of course

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Speaker 1: I said it a few times this morning, the asks

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Speaker 1: is a finite amount of money. So what would you

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Speaker 1: of the money. And the last thing on my list

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Speaker 1: would be anything related to sports complexes, especially when you

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Speaker 1: got folks like the Cleveland brown multi multi millionaires. They're

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Speaker 1: supposed to make a profit. It's a going concern. It's

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Speaker 1: a business worth billions of dollars. Okay, we had a

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Speaker 1: he said, I think I deserve the money. How about

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Speaker 1: a weakened week end warrior fund for those people who

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Speaker 1: become exhausted from their day to day living and earning

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Speaker 4: Bit to that?

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, there are valid arguments if the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: get money. There are many many people who would have

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Speaker 3: an extremely valid argument to the common man why they

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Speaker 4: And the last thing I will say is.

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Speaker 3: This, if you listen to or read anything in the

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Speaker 3: investment world, they'll tell you that past performance is no

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Speaker 3: indication of future performance, but you ought to pay attention

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Speaker 3: to what the past performance is. Well, the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: are just an abysmal, losing organization. Why would I want

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Speaker 3: to assist the Cleveland brownsing By the way, I grew

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Speaker 1: Well, regardless of how they play, because there's no guarantee.

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Speaker 1: You know, the world's an imperfect place. Screws fall out

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Speaker 3: That, true, but yeah, just don't get a massage when

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Speaker 3: you get hurt, right, right, if you're a Browns quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But the more fundamental question is, let's look at past performance.

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Speaker 1: Can you really put that on paper? Is it really

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Speaker 3: And in fact, there are people who are a lot

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Speaker 4: And it's always the marketing plan.

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Speaker 3: The voters get the marketing plan, but when you look

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Speaker 3: at the operational plan, the ROI, the promises they're never fulfilled.

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Speaker 3: This is an ongoing issue yet for some reason, lawmakers

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Speaker 1: The Ohio Pressnetwork dot Com are going to continue with

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Speaker 1: Jack Winsor. Good congratulates in the Ohio House doing something

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Speaker 1: right passing amended Centate Bill sixty three banning ranked choice voting.

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Speaker 1: Jack wins are on that and will also get a

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Speaker 1: on ice, don't go away.

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Speaker 2: I'd be right back with Jack.

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Speaker 1: we find Jack Winsor is excellent reporting on things going

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Speaker 1: on around Ohio. Real quick, Jack, I know you can

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Speaker 1: see me, and you maybe saw me laughing. You probably

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Speaker 1: love Joe Labbing. Just one more comment on the Ohio

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Speaker 1: Sports Facility grant program. Everybody's putting their name in the

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Speaker 1: that he you know what, you just qualified him for

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Speaker 1: the to make a claim to the fund. Congratulations, Jack,

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Speaker 1: where do you go? That's why I appreciate your joining

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Speaker 1: in the fun on a Friday. Here. Now, pivoting over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was a vote in the House sixty

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Speaker 3: what the bill will do is it will outlaw ranked

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Speaker 4: And you go, well, why is that?

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Speaker 3: Well, because proponents argue it's about ensuring election integrity, fair elections,

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Speaker 3: Now it is it's more than one person, one vote, right.

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Speaker 3: That was the mantra we heard a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 3: That's the simple explanation. The more complex explanation is that

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Speaker 4: Now you go, does it have teeth? Yes?

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Speaker 3: The local government fund would be withheld from any municipality

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Speaker 1: that's you know, carrots and penalties. You accept the money

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Speaker 2: That's extortion.

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Speaker 1: But they've got the money and they have control over

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Speaker 3: And you know, one of the arguments was that this

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Speaker 1: Well, given the claim that it violates a House constitution.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, we'll continue with Jack Windsor and hear about

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Speaker 1: the failure to understand the supremacy clause. Here in Ohio

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Speaker 1: wishing everyone a very happy Friday.

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Speaker 2: Put a smile on your face. Jeez, say it to yourself.

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Speaker 1: Jack Windsor, what a wonderful world in the Jack Wins

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Speaker 1: dive on into, uh, well, the supremacy clause specifically, I

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Speaker 1: or its workings. But real quick, here in your honor, Jack,

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Speaker 1: Jack froze up. You there, we got it. We have

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Speaker 1: a technical difficulty, Joe Air, are you back.

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Speaker 4: I'm here, I'm here, Sorry about that.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, all right, club City council, City of

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this, Jack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty disturbing. So city council here in Columbus

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Speaker 3: with ICE, to carry out federal immigration work, to prohibit

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Speaker 3: that effectively blocks new facilities to forbid ICE from using

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Speaker 3: so the city council is doing exactly what the mayor

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Speaker 3: the heart of what you're talking about, Brian. Unfortunately for

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Speaker 3: city council, I don't know how many of them have read.

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Speaker 4: The United States Constitution.

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Speaker 3: Because the President has full prerogative to enforce laws.

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Speaker 4: On the books.

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Speaker 3: That means that ICE agents, border patrol agents, homeland security

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Speaker 3: localities want to push back, too bad, because immigration is

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Speaker 3: the express or the express authority in creating immigration laws

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Speaker 3: no reason that I think they're doing this, Brian, other

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Speaker 1: Yeah, state judges must follow federal law. And conflicts arise

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Speaker 3: Yes one, and so I think again, Like many people

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Speaker 3: Eventually this will get tossed out, it will be found unenforceable,

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Speaker 3: but they can go back to their voting base and

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Speaker 3: go see, see we pushed back against the.

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Speaker 1: Bad guys, virtue signaling, Hey we tried, those evil Republicans.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't let us do it?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: Dan?

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Speaker 1: Pivoting over Jack windsor just general reaction. I know opinions

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Speaker 1: Have everything in it you wanted? Was it missing something?

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Speaker 3: My thirty thousand foot analysis. Brian, I hate to be

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Speaker 3: a Trump boot licker, and I'm not. I think it's

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Speaker 3: one of the best speeches he's ever given. He covered

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And when he did make those off the cuff comments,

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Speaker 3: they were gold. When he said these people are crazy,

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Speaker 3: of went, you know, they are kind of right he is.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's I guess something else I completely agree

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Speaker 1: with you about.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 1: I was worried, you know, I woke up in the

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Speaker 1: morning he said the longest presidential address in the history,

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Speaker 1: in spite of the length, that he really stayed on message.

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Speaker 1: You could read the topic here it comes boom on

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I think, if I still have just a

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Speaker 3: the Democrats walked right into. It was brilliant for him

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Speaker 3: to say, stand up if you believe the number one

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Speaker 4: That was brilliant.

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Speaker 3: If you're a running for office and you're a Republican

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Speaker 3: this year, you ought to put that in your campaign commercial.

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Speaker 1: Excellent. Well, you would get accused of being a bootlooker.

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Speaker 1: And Ernie thinks, here's an email I got from Ernie

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Speaker 1: as usual, you don't agree with the president.

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Speaker 2: So yeah.

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Speaker 1: Opinions are like sphincters. Everybody's got one, and sometimes they're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Jack windsor the Ohio Pressnetwork dot Com. I'll look forward

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Speaker 1: to having you back on the show next week. Jack,

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Speaker 1: have a great weekend, you too, brother, God bless you God,

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Speaker 1: bless you, sir A fifty five