1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: This is You're the inevitability of it all. Leader fan 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Fan Radio Network, did you see the game? 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: And k fan dot Com two minutes eleven seconds past 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: three o'clock Central Standard time, Welcome back. 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: It is a Monday edition of the Bumper to Bumper Program. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: I probably should have tested my voice still a little 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: gravelly coming out of whatever crud that I, like a 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: lot of other people have been battling. But I did 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: hit some interesting notes I think on that open guardzy 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: is Brett Blakemore tells me in ann Arbor, Michigan tracking 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: gold to go for women's basketball. That means Blake Moore 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: is back in that share and will be until is 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: it officially six thirty tonight or is it six fifteen? 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Do we know? Have we ever determined? Viking season? We 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: know is over? Is there any vikings rewind? I've got 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: a full tour, so it is a. 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Full tour between now and six thirty, and we have 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of ground to cover as 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: well between now and the bottom of the six o'clock 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: bratsch on Brian Cafe in text line will be rebooted 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: shortly six four, six, eight six, and the guest lineup 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: I think now is well, it's not totally established because 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: I have not gotten I don't think I've gotten a 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: text back officially from Kessler. There will be some bonus 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: pat Kesler today. I proposed to him five point thirty. 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: As soon as he is able to confirm, we'll pass 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 2: that along to the audience. We do know that Johnny 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: Athletic is confirmed for the bottom of this hour and 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 2: Nacho Lieber is scheduled for four forty seven. What time's 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: Adam Thielen on? How about theling big catch with the 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers from a ride they are advancing. 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: He said he wanted to go to a contender. There 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: they go. There's no arguing with it. One of their 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: touchdown drives. 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: He had a true he had I think the key 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: catch in on that particular drive. So he lives to 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: tell about it. After leaving the now dead and buried 38 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: sort of Vikings as well, we are going with the 39 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: Usually we do Vikings talking points the day after a game, 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: given the circumstances of the game, the relative meaninglessness of 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: the game, and my ongoing desire to make life easy 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: on Brett blakemore in that substitution, share guess what we did. 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Guess what we did. 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: Viking's talking point, There's only one that interests me, quite frankly, 45 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to lie to you, boys and girls. 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: It's bugging me. It's probably bugging me more than it should, 47 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: but it's bugging me. I every time I watch this 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: particular play, I break out in hives. 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: I can't. 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: I can't fathom exactly why the behavior exhibited on this 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: play was, but we'll discuss it, and that will be 52 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: the single Vikings talking point for today's broadcast. I mentioned 53 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 2: the inevitability of it all. It's always dangerous to attempt 54 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: to link a toy department story with an A Section story, 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: and yet in that sense, the sense of inevitability, I 56 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: think they are fair in that way only. 57 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: To link. 58 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: By that, I mean, as we talked in some depth 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: yesterday on the program on Sermons, I think the Vikings 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: ultimate delicate condition outside looking in. 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: The playoffs. 62 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: Was pretty close to inevitable the moment they made the 63 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: decision to hand the keys over to this expensive and 64 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: ambitious operation. To JJ McCarthy, you can defend it. They 65 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: wouldn't be the first team to do it. But as 66 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: we've said many times, over the last six months. Generally, 67 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: when you turn your team over to the kid quarterback 68 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: that you've coveted and is highly drafted, highly thought of, 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: highly tooted, it's a team that's been struggling for a 70 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: number of years, and so there's almost a built in 71 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: understanding that, well, this is going to take time, there's 72 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: going to be some ups, it's going to be the 73 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: inevitable downs, and we're in for the ride. The dilemma 74 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: for the Vikings was their record last year fourteen and three. 75 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: By doing that, and then by also then being as 76 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: ambitious as they did in the offseason in free agency, 77 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: they certainly led to the notion that this team thinks 78 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: they're good and they should do something quick like right now, 79 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: that they should make amends for finishing as badly as 80 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: they did at the end of the regular season, lose 81 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 2: that number one seed and then getting killed the next week. 82 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: I think we get killed both weeks actually, by the 83 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: Lions and then the Rams. And again, I'm not sure 84 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: it's fair to expect any quarterback, even ones more highly 85 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: touted than JJ McCarthy, to walk in take the keys 86 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: to a playoff team and be able to maintain that 87 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: or even build on it. So I know, as much 88 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: as people want to get excited about the fact that 89 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: ultimately we finished allegedly a half game out of a playoff, Burt, 90 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 2: there was an inevitability that this team was not really 91 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: giving itself a chance to succeed. It had every right 92 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: to make the decision it made to say we're done 93 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 2: waiting it out or putting off the inevitable moment where 94 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: we're going to fashion our own franchise quarterback and build 95 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: them and have them here for ten years. Every right 96 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: to do it, but I think they had no right to, really, 97 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: once you get past their hubris to expect that they 98 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: could be any better than they were, and let's face it, 99 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: they were not. They were in middle of the road, 100 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: a football team worse than that until the winning streak 101 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: with which they finished the season against largely meaningless competition, or, 102 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: in the case of your Green Bay Packers, a team 103 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: that made it very clear they had only one interest 104 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: getting out alive from the people stadium. 105 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: That I think. 106 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: Makes this outcome sitting in the sidelines for wild card 107 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: weekend and the playoffs pretty close to inevitable. 108 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Similarly, I think it was inevitable. 109 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: That the governor of the Great State of Minnesota was 110 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: going to step aside. I said, at least I want 111 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: to say, three weeks ago, maybe four weeks, five weeks. 112 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: I didn't exactly call for his head, but I said, 113 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: I think he if he's got any decency, he just 114 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: he gives up the ghost. He moves on, because the 115 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: almost every time he spoke, he sounded way too defensive, 116 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: tried to hide behind the well. Joe Thompson says in 117 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: the Billions is we don't we don't know that yet, which, 118 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: of course, as a couple of people I think have 119 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: written out d pieces for the star to beut and 120 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 2: even in fact, I think a couple of lefties have said, 121 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: you're kind of missing the forest for the trees. 122 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: If that's going to be. 123 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 2: The hill you try to die on, the pork chop 124 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: hill you try to die on. That was not quite 125 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: that much, and so I felt it was inevitable that 126 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: sooner or later he would step aside. Now what's interesting 127 00:07:51,800 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: is the timing, because given I spent I did. I 128 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: had a nice little bit on what's called News Nation. 129 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: It's another cable news outlet that I don't know how 130 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: it's doing in the ratings. 131 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: I like several of its shows. 132 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: I think they try to do a good job, at 133 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: least in theory, to be a little less strident politically. 134 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: And I was talking to the host about the weird 135 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: position I think Republicans are in right now. 136 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: They're taking a victory lab. They're saying we got them. 137 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: He's out, we got we got govern our Walls and 138 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: of course they use some other nicknames. 139 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in giving the time of day two, 140 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: but it falls into the classification of is this if 141 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: you're thinking politically, is. 142 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: This the outcome you wanted? Because this is early enough 143 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 2: that a race that looked, at least in theory winnable 144 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: could become loser proof for the Democrats in a way 145 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: that it wouldn't as long as the governor was named W. A. L. 146 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: Z wallt A lot of rumors already. 147 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: We'll get to this with Kessler at five point thirty, 148 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: that Amy Klobashar is going to step in. It's logical. 149 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: You can make this, you know, you can make the 150 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: argument that she's done what she's done much as she 151 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: can do as a US senator. Now again, you got 152 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 2: that's prime real estate. 153 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: Man. 154 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: She's got a nice fiefdom as US senator from the 155 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: state of Minnesota, and she wasn't going to lose there 156 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: get used to that. 157 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: But maybe she said to herself, maybe a change wouldn't 158 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: be a bad thing. 159 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: She can come to the rescue. It's not her mess. 160 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 2: And quite frankly, with this announcement, the Republican's chances of 161 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: a victory lap election day, I think is dramatically reduced 162 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: if indeed she ends up stepping up to the plate 163 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: as expected. But again there's I think an inevitability. Now 164 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: he not surprisingly tried to play the martyr card, which 165 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: he's done before. You know that I don't I don't 166 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: want to spend her I can't spend all my time, 167 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: you know, defending myself politically. It's it's not even a 168 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: matter of defending yourself politically. That sounds like you're, in 169 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: a sense trying to be selfless here. Well, you're vulnerable, 170 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: you're for a reason, you administration. 171 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: You have presided over. 172 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: One of the worst sets of scandals to beset any state. 173 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: Ever. 174 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: This isn't just money wasted as usual, money stolen as usual, 175 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: and there's plenty of that. 176 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: This clearly goes well beyond that. 177 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: It's breathtaking in its scope, and this administration was way 178 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: too defensive too early, never really attempted to hold anybody accountable. 179 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: There's all. 180 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: We've quoted a number of independent sorts auditor types who 181 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: have gone to the state Capitol and said had been 182 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: warning for a long time, our message of mismanagement and 183 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: lack of accountability and follow up is being dismissed. And frankly, 184 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,359 Speaker 2: some of that dismissal came from members of this administration. 185 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: So I don't know that I had a date in mind. 186 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: There was a part of me that said, well, he 187 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: might be feisty enough to say, I'm not gonna let 188 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: the terrorists win. 189 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just go. I'm gonna keep going and keep going, and. 190 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go after this thing because I started to 191 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: do so, and I'm gonna finish it. But ultimately, I 192 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: think it was probably inevitable as well that either somebody 193 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: was going to get to him or ultimately he was 194 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: going to get to himself and say this is gonna 195 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: keep going. It's not gonna go away. Despite the distance 196 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: between now an election day, this isn't gonna go away. 197 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: It's gonna keep coming out in drips and drabs, and 198 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to be continually having to answer questions about it. 199 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: So maybe that's the sub theme of today's program, the 200 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: inevitability of it all. There may be a number of 201 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: other examples that apply to Johnny Athletic. As I said 202 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: in about fifteen minutes, is it inevitable, for example, that 203 00:12:54,679 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves will drive you insane to the good 204 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: but the insane part to the bat that they will, 205 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: four weeks at a time, seem to play down to competition, 206 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: seemed to be non competitive, seemed to be not disinterested, 207 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 2: as Rudy gobert Is said forget us, and then other times, 208 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: most recently where they say, okay, let's get serious, and 209 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: they've gotten serious the last two games and played in 210 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: the authoritative fashion that we like to think we associate 211 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: with this club as well. So inevitability might be a big, 212 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: as I said, topic throughout today's program, Bradshawn, Brian Kfe 213 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 2: and text line is open at six four, six, eight six. 214 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: We will also get to the one Viking talking point 215 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: as well. 216 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 4: Stick never missed your chance to know what the latest 217 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: sports news is. 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He's able to get away 228 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 6: from Johnson and he runs right. Then he stiff arms 229 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 6: a packer at the thirty, runs to the twenty five 230 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 6: and he and Keishawn Nixon have some words by the 231 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 6: sideline and a black comes in as JJ McCarthy had 232 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 6: to be restrained by one of his teammates, Jordan Addison. 233 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Five yard game for. 234 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 7: McCarthy, Paul, you know, just run out of bouncey. You 235 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 7: don't know any of his garbage. Jonte offense number nine. 236 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: That's from the start, at the end of the run, 237 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: the down cowns second. 238 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 7: Now yeah, I mean again, it's I understand that you 239 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 7: want to play and everything else, But everything that's going 240 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 7: on this year, especially with your infore me, you know, 241 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 7: four injuries that have caused you to miss time in 242 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 7: two seasons. Just run out of bounce like a pro, 243 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 7: be a professional about. 244 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: It versus just one hundred percent right. I tell you what, man, 245 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: I'm watching that play and I'm thinking to myself, are 246 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: you twelve? 247 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: I know you're young, but are you twelve? Not the number? 248 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: I know he's nine? 249 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Alter ego, But that's one of those plays to me, 250 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: leaving a side discretion being the greater form of valor 251 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: when it comes to, you know, not risking injury. 252 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: That's one of. 253 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: Those plays where you say, how do you do that? 254 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: How do you in a season when at times you 255 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: have been either historically inept or unavailable that you think 256 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: you've already done enough that you're going to play that 257 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: macho role. It blew my mind. Then I said, well, 258 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: let me watch it again. Maybe you know, maybe I 259 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: need to see it more than once. And I got 260 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: angrier the more I saw it. How do you go there? 261 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: And I know there are people out there who are 262 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: just aroused by it and a right, guys, feisty, are 263 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: you kidding me? This isn't pop Warner football. You're supposed 264 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: to be a professional player, and I would suggest that 265 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: even though I never particularly like that level of taunting 266 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 2: which was at and the penalty was one hundred percent deserved, 267 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: that was easy. In fact, I would submit to you 268 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: that if officials could assign a thirty yard penalty that 269 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: went above and beyond the normal taunting penalty, J J. 270 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: McCarthy deserved it in that situation. I'm trying to figure 271 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: out why you think that is in your interest in 272 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: a season that, if nothing else, should have humbled you 273 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: and reminded you of just how far you have to go. 274 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: You didn't prove anything by it, like, oh, he's right, fearless, 275 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: nothing was gain by that nonsense. There's nothing mature about it. Maybe, 276 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: like I said, you have five years of brilliance at 277 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 2: the position at this level and then you go, screw it. 278 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: I can know whatever I want, and so every once 279 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: in a while, I'm gonna cross the line. 280 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do about it? Okay? 281 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: I get that. Then then I guess at that point 282 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: you sort of have to accept it. But nothing, nothing's 283 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: happened yet, and the text, predictably are coming in from 284 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: people who don't get it. They they think this shows 285 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: how special he is. The act of costing your team 286 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: fifteen yards. Now, albeit I'll grant you in a meaningless 287 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: Game nine mentality you wouldn't understand. You've never played the game. 288 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: If you think you know I have done. 289 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 2: I've talked to a lot of professionals over forty years 290 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: in this business, and you know what impresses them. Coolness 291 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: under fire, leadership that says I'm going to make the 292 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: plays that need to be made, and the ability to 293 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: understand that the worst thing I can do as a 294 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: QB is cost my team fifteen yards needlessly. Forget the 295 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: you know the cliches that people mount, you know, offer. 296 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: Up about high and go to battle with him. 297 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: They say what they feel like they have to say, 298 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: but what they want ain't no question what they want. 299 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: I mean, that was a That's one of those moments 300 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: where you're I think, if you have any self respect, 301 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: you're wincing. Oh God, this is the guy we want 302 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: to invest in in the future. This is the guy 303 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: we believe in. And here's another good example. Did you 304 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: ever have an have you? Did you ever have emotion 305 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: about anything? Emotion has nothing to do with it. That's 306 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 2: just a stupid play. Emotions great, but the idea is 307 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: to channel the emotions in a way that is advantageous. 308 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: To your club. 309 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: Or maybe maybe here here's a thought, maybe you get 310 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: on with your career, have a body of work first. 311 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: This is even better here it is hold on, No, 312 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: that wasn't it. No where they're coming into fast now. 313 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: A lot of the uh mac bobo's are very upset 314 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: right now. 315 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: On the front. Oh, you're just dan. 316 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 2: This is from seven six three guy, You're just overly 317 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: salty because you have to talk about what a disaster 318 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: Walls is at some point today. Well, we already did. 319 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining the show if you'd started from the 320 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 2: beginning seven to six three. 321 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: Guy, we've already talked about the governor, and we will again. 322 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: By the way, congratulations to the President of the United States, who, 323 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: in the middle of what should be a good moment 324 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: for Republicans, finds a way to sully Matters by retweeting grotesque, 325 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: insanely made up, stupid rhetoric speculation on who is responsible 326 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: for the murder of Melissa Hortman MH. There's two kinds 327 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: of Trump derangement syndrome. There are one is nothing he 328 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: does can ever be effective or righteous. But there's another 329 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: kind of trump deranged st syndrome. It's my guy can 330 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: never do wrong? 331 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 6: Might not? 332 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: My guy can never step over a line. You're creating 333 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: these artificial lines as well, so keep let me know 334 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: which ones, which, which side of the t d s 335 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: you might be in on again, I on on the QB. 336 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: I'm aware that there are a number of people aren't 337 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: as bothered by it as I am. My job is 338 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: to offer my opinion, and my gut reaction to that was, oh, 339 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: what a bad look. 340 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: What a. 341 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 8: To me? 342 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: It's again the look of a child, a kid who 343 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: is not close to being ready to being the guy, 344 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: if he's ever going to be the guy in the 345 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: National Football League. It's just it's in it and again 346 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: in a meaningless game, in a season in which, even 347 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: after showing some measure of progress, he's going to finish 348 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: statistically as one of the worst quarterbacks. 349 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: First year. 350 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: It's just a first year, second year, but first time 351 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: he's played quarterbacks in the last twenty five years in 352 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: the National Football League as well. We'll see if Johnny 353 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: Athletic agrees, we'll get into some other stuff with him. 354 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: He is scheduled next. 355 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: Don't forget Ben Lieber today Bonus Kessler at five thirty. 356 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 8: Fine, now. 357 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: All right, it is indeed time for Johnny Athletic. If 358 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: you have questions at the Bradshaw on Brian Cafe in 359 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: text line six four six eight six, where was I 360 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: trying to get to? 361 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 362 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: Here it is. 363 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: So it's interesting how things can break out via X. 364 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: Most recent example is a an exchange, an i'mgoing exchange. 365 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: It appears. 366 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 2: Between Kevin Faulness and John Athletic, our next guest. We'll 367 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 2: say hi to Johnny. Johnny, how are you. 368 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: Very good? Dana? This is just a belated holiday gift 369 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: to you. Is my little exchange with Kavin here because 370 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: I do know that you enjoy it and I love it. 371 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 3: So I am here to raise everyone's spirits and get 372 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 3: a chuckle out of people. So you're welcome. 373 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: Thank you RBC Wealth Management as well for sponsoring this 374 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: fine spot. 375 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: This fine spot. 376 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: So I send out as I often do, about fifteen 377 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: minutes before the program the lineup today, which noted that 378 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: you're on it, Nacho liber is on it, Kessler is 379 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: on it, and what Fallness tends to do if I 380 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: don't have what he classifies I guess as a hockey 381 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: guest is he uses. I don't know how to describe. 382 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: How would you describe the emoji? What's the name for 383 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: that emoji of Brett Blake? This is brilliant a monocle emoji, 384 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: a monica emoji, right, which I guess means I'm looking 385 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: looking for a hockey again. 386 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking through my monocle and I'm not wanting anything. Yeah. 387 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: At that point, you respond with Wild twenty five wins 388 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: in forty three games, Wolves twenty three wins in thirty six. 389 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: Games, Falness. 390 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: Wild tied for second in the NHL after forty three games, 391 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: Wolves ninth in the NBA after thirty six games. Johnny, 392 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: that's because your league is filled with mediocrity, Falness. My 393 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: league doesn't have schedule losses, Johnny. 394 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: No, your league has so many losses that they have 395 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: to count some of them differently than others. It's unbelievable. 396 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: It just goes on and on. It's so good. 397 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, as our great friend God rest 398 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: his soul. Flips Sanders used to say, the truth cannot 399 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: be controversial. To set out fact after fact after fact, 400 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 3: and our our good friend Kevin Falness. In my opinion, 401 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: that's stepping in it a little bit. But that's all right, 402 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 3: you know, that's that's as you want to do. 403 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 4: Do you see the most recent reports update Falness? 404 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: Oh is there another one? 405 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, he says fondness, Your league star players take games 406 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 4: off because they're sleepy. My league star players would play 407 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 4: through amputations. 408 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 409 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: Take that. 410 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, this could go on well in the back. 411 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: With another witty one. Right after we get done with 412 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: this segment, you're. 413 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: Going to have to perhaps you can. 414 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: Offer some sense of what's the word I'm looking for here, 415 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: restraint that I was unwilling or incapable depending on the day, 416 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: offer the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, JJ McCarthy. 417 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier that usually we have several Vikings talking points, 418 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: but given the insignificance of the game, we only had 419 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: one Vikings talking point. We've already played it, may play 420 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 2: it again later in the program, and it's the play 421 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: that ended with the starting quarterback, the guy who's supposed 422 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 2: to be the heart and soul and the head of 423 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings offense, uses a pretty effective stiff arm 424 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: defend off a would be defender third string defender, I 425 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: might add, then ends up out of bounds or another 426 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: shoulder shimmy or whatever our shoulder tackle applied to him, 427 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: and then gets into a taunting exhibition that was so 428 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: over the top that one of the officials on the 429 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: sidelines actually grabbed him, which I rarely have seen, almost 430 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: as if I think to protect himself from himself. I 431 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: find it embarrassing. I find it egregious. I find it 432 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: so dramatically immature that I'm not sure I. 433 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: Will ever look at JJ McCarthy the same. 434 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: Now, I'll grant on that last point that might be 435 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: a bit of an exaggeration, but I couldn't stand it. 436 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: I really didn't. It actually bugged me more than I 437 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: thought it would. Now, are you gonna be the voice 438 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 2: of reason or are you gonna pile on? 439 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: Let's see here, I understand what you're saying, because here's 440 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: what I kind of have settled on. Coming out of 441 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: that game area yesterday and watched all that unfold and 442 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: going into it, I was really pretty much in the 443 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: camp of, look, you've invested in this young quarterback. You 444 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: have to give him more time, no matter really what happens. 445 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: Barring some major injury in this game, you go into 446 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: next season with him as your starter and try to 447 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: find a quality veteran backup and then and see what 448 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: you have and get one more shot at it. I 449 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: will say that watching all of that play out in 450 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: the finale did give me a little bit more pause. 451 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: Now I don't think I'm quite to your end where 452 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: I won't look at him the same. Ever, Again, I 453 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: wasn't that offended by the taking penalty and things like that, 454 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: but certainly when you couple that little exchange with the 455 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: inaccuracy in the game, with the decision vision later in 456 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: the game to pull himself out, you know, because you 457 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: know he was having trouble gripping the ball, his hand 458 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: was hurting. I do think it it eroded my sense 459 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: of belief that he should be in the driver's seat 460 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: for the starting position next year. Now I do kind 461 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: of tend to think a little bit that maybe you 462 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: do look at all of your options and if you 463 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: can just get a better one, you do that and 464 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: you go forward. But I generally am a McCarthy believer. 465 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: I think that he deserves a little bit more time, 466 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: and I liked a lot what I saw, But but yeah, 467 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: there there were certain actions like that, and you know, 468 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: listening to Ben Leeber talk about how he viewed, you know, 469 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 3: McCarthy coming out of the game, that really struck me 470 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: as well. And so I just have a lot more 471 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: questions about him than I even had going into it, 472 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: and there were plenty of them. 473 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's that there's almost like three or 474 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: four different conversations all laid out in what you're discussing. 475 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: That all I think contribute to the overall view of 476 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: what do we do with McCarthy and what do we 477 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: make of what McCarthy did in this particular game. And 478 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: the injury part or pulling himself from the game is 479 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: an interesting one because I don't know how see, I'm 480 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: actually not as offended by that one as I am 481 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: by the nonsense and the sidelines, because deep down one 482 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: would assume that even if he does act like a child, 483 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: sometimes he has to know that his currency right now 484 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: that he has to take advantage of while he can 485 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: is playing, and he's got to know to that extent 486 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: he's already in double secret probation right four injuries in 487 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: missing as many games as he did, which tells me 488 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: that he had to know that leaving that game was 489 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: not going to serve him on any level. And does 490 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: that mean it's possible that he was just injured enough 491 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: that it wasn't going to make any sense for him 492 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: to try to throw football, You know what I'm saying. 493 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: That's the part that to me is counterintuitive, because he's 494 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: got to know that much that the last thing I 495 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: can do is get out of here. 496 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: Now. 497 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: He tried to put it on the basis as you 498 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: know of well, this is a grown man decision where 499 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: the old nine would have done the old sleep it. 500 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: I just I'm gonna play through everything. And what he's 501 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: trying to say is, well, there's a time where being 502 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: that exercising that much bravado ends up hurting your own team. 503 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: If I literally can't either grip the ball or I 504 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: can't you know, even come close to making whatever plays 505 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: I might otherwise have made. That's why to me that 506 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: that almost feels like a separate conversation. 507 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, and I will say too, Dan, 508 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: that I definitely kind of aired a little bit more 509 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: on your side of that discussion coming out of the game, 510 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: because I do think that you can argue that, hey, 511 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: it's smart if your hand is all of a sudden 512 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: swelling up, or if it's if it's gotten to a 513 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: point where you know that you cannot make a throw 514 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 3: down the field, that if you try to hang in 515 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: there and then you throw a pick six or something 516 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: disastrous happened, that looks even worse on you. That said, 517 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 3: I really did take to heart what Lieber was saying 518 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: about him not being a big fan of it, because 519 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: I think Ben is an incredibly smart analyst, and I 520 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: also think that he talks to people within that locker 521 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: room as he kind of digests and formulates his own 522 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: views on what happens and what and what doesn't. And 523 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: so it feels to me like it may have been 524 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: more effective for JJ if he had stayed in there 525 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: and was taken out by Kevin O'Connell. Now maybe that 526 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't have happened, or maybe it would have, But I 527 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: do think that liber you know, speaking the way that 528 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: he did as a former players, as someone with connections 529 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: in that locker room, resonated with me on a different level, 530 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: you know, on that subject. 531 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: Well, we have Lebron in an hour and I'll definitely 532 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: talk to about excited out here it live, you know, 533 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: to me, what's interesting about the the the taunting penalties. 534 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: I didn't get I didn't see anything. 535 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: That indicated me other players were rallying around the QB 536 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 2: or that they were you know, they're going, ah cool, 537 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, that's toughness, that's what we're looking for 538 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: from a quarterback. I didn't get that sense at all 539 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: after that play, did you. 540 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 3: I did not either. I will say that just in 541 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 3: talking to his teammates over the course of the season, 542 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: I do think they generally like him. I think they 543 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 3: want to see him do well. I think that they 544 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 3: believe that his heart is in the right place, that 545 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: his motives are pure, all of those things. And I 546 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: have seen them rally around him when he makes a 547 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: big play, when he scores a touchdown, and they're happy 548 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 3: for him. They want they want good things for him. 549 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 3: But in that specific instance, no, I didn't see anything 550 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 3: like that. That said. I also, you know, while it 551 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: was clear that there was an extended conversation that was happening, 552 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: it did get broken up fairly quickly. On the sideline. 553 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 3: He was on the sideline, he was yapping. The referee 554 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 3: got in the middle of it and got him back. 555 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: I think Brian O'Neal came over and kind of you know, 556 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: tried to calm him down a little bit, and then 557 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 3: that was that, and then there was you know, then 558 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 3: there was a you know, the penalty and the announcement 559 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 3: and all of that. So it didn't really, I think, 560 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 3: have an extra long time for teammates to rush to 561 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 3: his aid or anything like that. But I also just, yeah, 562 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 3: I didn't see a rallying around him, and hey, we're 563 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: going to protect our quarterback and and and and get 564 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 3: after our guy in that instance for sure. 565 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 2: You know, we're chatting with Johnny Athletic some vikings stuff early. 566 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: I have one more vikings question before. 567 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: I talked some wolf stuff with you, because I'm not 568 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: at a chance to catch up with you in a 569 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 2: while and I feel like a lot has happened there 570 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: as well. What's the vibe you're getting regarding Brian Flores? 571 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: Is it as simple as well, we're not gonna be 572 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 2: able to keep him if there's a head coaching vacancy 573 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: and he is, you know, uh, in demand. I mean 574 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 2: that's a promotion now that we do about that. Is 575 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: it as simple as that or do you think there's 576 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: any reason to believe even though we've heard good things 577 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: about good contract talks are going on, whatever, that there's 578 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: more to this story, or that there's a chance that 579 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: he might be ready to say, you know, I might 580 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: want to try to be, you know, a coordinator someplace else. 581 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: I mean, is there is there any chance of that 582 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: happening or is it as simple as head coach? Yeah, 583 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: we know he's gone, Otherwise there's no reason to think 584 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: he's not going to re sign here. 585 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say Dan for me in the way 586 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 3: that I've looked at it and talked to people about 587 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 3: it over the last several weeks. It has change changed 588 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: to me, though, the temperature of the water in a way, 589 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 3: And I'll say it in two ways. One is I 590 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 3: was sort of under the impression that, given Brian Flordes's 591 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 3: lawsuit against the league, and given how things ended in 592 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 3: Miami and the confrontational nature of that, that the chances 593 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: of him getting another head coaching job was very minimal, 594 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 3: just give with the way that how the owners operate. 595 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 3: That said, it does seem like there is a real 596 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: momentum toward a job with the Raiders, with Tom Brady 597 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 3: hiring him as a head coach, and maybe Brian Dabole 598 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 3: or someone like that as the offensive coordinator, And so 599 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 3: I think that is more real than than anything that 600 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: I expected to be discussed from a head coaching standpoint 601 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 3: at this point. The second part of it, though, to you, 602 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 3: I think what you're getting at here is there does 603 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 3: seem to be some sort of murmurings of discontent of 604 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 3: different of a budding of heads behind the scenes with 605 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: other people in the organization that there is some intrigue 606 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 3: about even if he didn't get the Raiders job or 607 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 3: another head coaching job, that there still is a real 608 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 3: possibility that Flores could leave for another defensive coordinator job. 609 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 3: I can't tell you the exact nature of the conflict 610 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: or of the you know, kind of drama behind the 611 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 3: scenes that way, but there is something going on that 612 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 3: does leave me to believe that it's at least that 613 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 3: is it is not a foregone conclusion that he would 614 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 3: stay here to be a coordinator, that he could leave 615 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 3: to go else, which I think would be a disaster 616 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 3: vikings and it would be a terrible look. But but yeah, 617 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 3: there is something going on there. Maybe maybe it's a 618 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 3: little bit of negotiating on Flora's part to try and 619 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 3: get every last bit of dollars that that are coming 620 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: his way. But there does seem to be some real 621 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 3: talk behind the scenes of you know what, it's not 622 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 3: all hunky dory behind the scenes with Brian Flores and 623 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 3: with this organization, and there are some other things that 624 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 3: they have to navigate before they could get a deal 625 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: done with him. 626 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 2: What is more devastating the notion the prospect of the 627 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: Vikings losing b Flow or the Golden Golphers losing Coy Parrish. O, Man, 628 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: I think you have to say, Beflow, you're going a 629 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 2: lean bee Flow despite a very good first season, maybe 630 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: not so good a second season. 631 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 3: Yes, because I think that Cooy Parrish has made it 632 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 3: clear even from the first days that he came to 633 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 3: campus that he is just trying to get to the 634 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 3: NFL as quickly as possible, like and and you know, 635 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: this thought of the hometown boy staying with the Gophers 636 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 3: and doing all that, it wasn't that romantic for Parish. 637 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 3: And good for him if that's the way that he 638 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 3: wants to do it, and you want to maximize his 639 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 3: dollars and and you know, his his marketing and then 640 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 3: and then gets the NFL Okay, go for it. But Flores, 641 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 3: I think is you can argue is the MVP of 642 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 3: the team this year, like the entire team, right with 643 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 3: what he has done with the defense that is under 644 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 3: talented to what it performed on the field. I mean, 645 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 3: there's no Pro bowlers on that roster and he still 646 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 3: made it an absolutely elite defense down the stretch. And 647 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 3: I don't know that there are many coaches that can 648 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 3: do that with that collection of talent. So I think 649 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 3: Flores would be a greater loss, even though it would 650 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 3: be nice to have perish, and you know what he 651 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 3: represents on the Gophers, but they can recover a little 652 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 3: bit easier than the Vikings. 653 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: What I think, all right, let's get to the walls. 654 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: And this may seem like ancient history given what they've 655 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 2: done the last couple of games, but I I want 656 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: to go back to it because I'm trying to understand 657 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 2: the meaning of it all and how it's viewed organizationally. 658 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 2: If if the Anthony Edwards decision to leave the court 659 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: is sort of viewed as well, that's at that's ant 660 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 2: being ant. We don't love it, but it's aunt being 661 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: ant or whether it's an alarm bell thing for them, 662 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 2: And beyond that, I'm trying to understand why I feel 663 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: like nationally there are players who would do that that 664 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 2: would receive it, would it would be a lot bigger 665 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 2: story than I felt like it was, which I don't 666 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: completely understand. Despite whatever Ant's history is, and it's a 667 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: good one largely in that regard. 668 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: So what am I missing here? 669 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 2: How do you read the tea leaves about what it 670 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: meant and whether the organization gave any thought to any 671 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 2: kind of discipline. 672 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll say, first of all, I am surprised 673 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 3: as well that it wasn't a bigger story nationally, especially 674 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 3: with a national media that is just thirsty for drama 675 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 3: like this is the kind of thing that they feed 676 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 3: on that they could say, well, look, Anthony Edwards has 677 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 3: discontent with the Wolves, maybe they got to look to 678 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 3: move him, and you know, you can get the trade 679 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 3: machine rolling and you can get all of that going. 680 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 3: And so we have seen, you know, similar since instances. 681 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 3: Draymond Green had one earlier this year with the Warriors, 682 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 3: and that was much more ballyhood and much more given 683 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 3: much more attention than this Anthony Edwards one was because 684 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 3: it was not a good look for Anthony Edwards, he 685 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 3: should not be doing that, and it's it goes against 686 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 3: everything that he has been as a teammate here in 687 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: his first five and a half seasons. Now, the reason 688 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 3: that I think maybe it was neutralized is because the 689 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 3: Wolves I think made it pretty clear that yes, they 690 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 3: had discover they had talks with Anthony Edwards about it, 691 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 3: but that they did not deem it to be necessary 692 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 3: for punishment or discipline, and they were addressing it and 693 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 3: moving on fairly quickly. Anthony Edwards, you know, they played 694 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 3: very well this weekend in Miami in Washington, and so 695 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 3: it makes it a little bit easier to downplay it. 696 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 3: But in that moment, I was certainly concerned about the 697 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 3: optics of it, and just talking to people within the Wolves. 698 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 3: They did address it with Anthony Edwards, but they didn't 699 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 3: think that it was anything more than real frustration in 700 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 3: that game, in that game alone, especially with it happening 701 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 3: in his hometown, in front of his family and in 702 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 3: front of a lot of people who only get to 703 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 3: see him live once a year, and so they looked 704 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 3: at it more as a one off. But yeah, the 705 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 3: optics of it, Dan, in the moment, I thought were 706 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 3: really bad, and we're not kind to the leader that 707 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards wants to be and has been for a 708 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 3: lot of his time. 709 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: I mean, how ofesome, Maybe I'm you have a recency 710 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 2: biased thing here. How can you gave me the names 711 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 2: of other players who've done that? 712 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely We've seen Draymond Green 713 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 3: do it. I think Damian Lillard did it one one time. Okay, 714 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 3: there's there. There's been a few others, certainly over the 715 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 3: course of years, but it definitely is not a common occurrence. 716 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 3: It's a it is a line that I think most 717 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 3: athletes understand should not be cropped. I mean, we think 718 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 3: back to when Randy Moss did it in Washington and 719 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 3: and and the the rankor that that kind of induced 720 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 3: internally and externally. Rightfully, so I think, you know, there's 721 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 3: there's certainly understandable ways to express your frustrations, but leaving 722 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 3: the bench in the middle of the game is definitely 723 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 3: one of those that is like an unwritten rule that 724 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 3: you do not do. And so we don't see it 725 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 3: that often. Uh, it has happened before, but uh, but yeah, 726 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 3: it's certainly not for a guy like Aunt who tries 727 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 3: to be someone that just lifts his teammates up and 728 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 3: doesn't want to be a distraction. 729 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: And let's face it, I mean even still relatively tender age. 730 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 2: It's his team, you know what I mean? Everybody knows it. 731 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 2: It should be you know. That's what's odd to me 732 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 2: about it. Seven six y three guy wants us quickly 733 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 2: before we wrap up, to go back to what you 734 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: had to say about b flow. Here's the text. We 735 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 2: need more on this floor as discontent tease. Is there 736 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 2: more meat on that bone that you can provide us? 737 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: Or yeah? 738 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 3: I wish. I wish I could give like specific you know, 739 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 3: problems that are happening, and I don't have them. I 740 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 3: can't say it's like definitely a disconnect with O'Connell or 741 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 3: with Quasi or with you know, another coach on the staff, 742 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 3: or or something like that that I'm not I just 743 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 3: can't say because I don't have the specifics of it 744 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 3: nailed down enough to report it and say it with confidence. 745 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 3: What I can just say is that, yes, there have 746 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 3: been conversations around his situation, and just like I don't 747 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 3: know how I'll say the whispers that everything is not 748 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 3: completely right in that world, and it is more than 749 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 3: It's not just as simple that if Brian Flores does 750 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 3: not take a head coaching job, he's absolutely one hundred 751 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 3: percent sure going to lock down here with the Vikings. 752 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 3: There's just more to it, and certainly Alec and I 753 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 3: and others will be looking into that more. But yeah, 754 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 3: it's it's kind of been a talking point around the 755 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 3: team that's circulating for the last ten days or so. 756 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 2: I think, thank you, Johnny, we'll let chat soon, all right, 757 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, appreciate you John athletic kind enough to join 758 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 2: us as he often does on a Monday. I don't 759 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 2: think a Viking was made available to us today. As 760 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: far as I know, Adam Feeling hasn't returned to her. 761 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 7: Well. 762 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 2: I hadn't really tried to call him, although that'd be 763 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 2: fun to have him on is. He's advancing as a 764 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 2: member of the Burgh Steelers and now one of the 765 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 2: favorite receiving targets for the former Packer great Aaron Rodgers. Interesting, 766 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 2: we have Lieber scheduled for about forty five or so 767 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 2: minutes from now. We've got bonus Pat Kessler at five 768 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 2: point thirty. In the wake of the news that broke 769 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 2: earlier today that the governor of the Great State of 770 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: Minnesota will not attempt it was not going to stay 771 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 2: in the race for a third term, so all of 772 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: that is on the table. There are a couple people 773 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 2: have asked us for more a section material involving one 774 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: of our favorite counter terror guests, Martin Michael Hurley, given 775 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 2: what's happening around the world and our decision to pluck 776 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 2: Maduro out of his country and the possibility that what 777 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: Greenland might be next, or Cuba, and we will attempt 778 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 2: to before this week is done satisfy all all of 779 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 2: those onlookers, those curiosity seekers wondering what Mike Hurley might 780 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 2: have to say on a number of those subjects, because 781 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 2: I'm rather curious myself. 782 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: So it might have be today, But stay tuned. 783 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 2: We're back, and it's a long week, and now that 784 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 2: the Vikings are removed from further competition, there is all 785 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 2: kinds of time to get to all of it.