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Speaker 2: Schiafferd is back with us for another segment. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: Larry mondelo Guy and this goes back to our discussion

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Speaker 2: celebrating the twenty five year anniversary today of forty one

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Speaker 2: Donut Vikings lost to the Giants in the NFC title game.

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Speaker 2: Mondelo Guy writes, as the game began to unfold, did

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Speaker 2: you at some point have it epiphany, Almost like when

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Speaker 2: a writer suddenly thinks of the idea behind what will

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Speaker 2: become the great American novel, like Newton having an apple

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Speaker 2: fall in his head. Only instead of a great scientific

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Speaker 2: breakthrough or work of literature, it was the realization that

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Speaker 2: you had a piece of smart assery that could be

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Speaker 2: milked for twenty five it.

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Speaker 3: Was, you know, it wasn't like that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: The game was such a dud that there was no

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Speaker 4: like great inspiration, like it probably wasn't your best column.

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Speaker 2: No, I was disappointed with my savagery in that column

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Speaker 2: because it was so I mean, it happened so thorough,

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Speaker 2: happened so early. I don't even think I had my

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Speaker 4: I don't certainly don't think that was one of my

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Speaker 3: I it was.

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Speaker 4: I do remember the following morning, leaving the hotel, riding

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Speaker 4: the shuttle to the airport, and we got in an accident.

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Speaker 5: Uh it was.

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Speaker 4: It was a classic New York two shuttle drivers screaming

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Speaker 4: and all of a.

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Speaker 5: Sudden we're in an accident.

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Speaker 4: But like that, So that was a good completion to

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Speaker 4: break in and appropriately.

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Speaker 2: So do you have a current position on whether Brian

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Speaker 2: next year?

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many levels to it. Number one,

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Speaker 4: there's nine head coaching jobs, more than a quarter of

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Speaker 4: the league is looking for new head coats at a

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Speaker 4: record I don't know if it's I mean, it's got

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Speaker 2: Think we're averaging six or seven every year. But this

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Speaker 4: And some of the best jobs in the league, the

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Speaker 3: I don't know if the Giants.

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Speaker 4: The Giants are a great, you know, historic franchise, I

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Speaker 4: But there's some, you know, potentially big time jobs out there.

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Speaker 4: And if he's not, if Brian Flores is not going

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Speaker 4: not only is there nine openings, but most people agree

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Speaker 4: there's not like a bunch of obvious like this is,

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Speaker 4: but the defensive coordinator thing is already I think kind

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Speaker 4: And I know that it's a unique experience a situation,

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Speaker 4: Because remember Kevin O'Connell said yesterday that they they tried,

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Speaker 5: Including after last season.

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Speaker 2: You think it's I mean that there have been a

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Speaker 4: and like to go to bounce, you know, to not

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Speaker 4: I don't see how you can look at it any

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, there's lots of people speculating on that.

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Speaker 4: And I think we found that, like you know, through

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Speaker 4: that doesn't happen very often.

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Speaker 5: Then it said that and of itself does so.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's what lends people wanting to know

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Speaker 2: what the hell's that about?

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Speaker 5: What where where might that be going?

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Speaker 4: So that will that will come out if you know,

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Speaker 2: It's the bumper to bumper seal of approval, not a

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Speaker 2: big surprise, but I think worthy of notation. Adam Feelen

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Speaker 2: I think he finished with was it five hundred and

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's catches or yards or which category,

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Speaker 5: All of them. Yeah, there's no question, I mean.

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Speaker 2: And again, it ended pretty meekly for him, obviously, but

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Speaker 5: But in an odds sort.

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Speaker 2: You know, we kid about the one of us things,

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Speaker 2: the fact that you know, he wasn't a blue blood

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Speaker 4: And it's for as much as his story has been

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Speaker 4: It's not like he opened a door to this flood

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Speaker 2: Colorado kid is checking in and he's very disappointed in you,

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Speaker 2: Why does Quazy get a free pass from you?

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Speaker 4: Well, I would say, and I think you probably follow

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Speaker 4: you can put say the coaches deserve this credit, or

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Speaker 4: the front office deserves that credit, or it's not Quacy,

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Speaker 4: it's Ryan Grigson, or it's you know, it's all it's

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Speaker 4: the scouting got you know, whatever you want to say.

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Speaker 4: and that, and that's you know, you can't it's tough

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Speaker 4: it's somebody it's some somebody else gets the credit. You

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Speaker 4: so the drafts have been poor. And if you're a

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Speaker 4: up to every single organization when when you go. I

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Speaker 4: it matches the eye test. Their draft picks have not

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Speaker 4: been particularly impactful from start to finish. But I think

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Speaker 4: his drafts have not been good. But it's not the

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Speaker 2: No, And I would still submit that you can't separate

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Speaker 2: Absolutely the playoffs continue. Thanks man, Yes, Kevin Seaffert in

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Speaker 2: Are you prepared for a five twenty sports fix? Can

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Speaker 5: You grin away.

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Speaker 6: The obligatory Kevin Faulness Minnesota Wild mentionhit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Wild get the Jets, who are not a

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Speaker 1: Just some great, great hockey coverage, so you'll hear more

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Speaker 1: of that. Not a great game the last time we

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Speaker 5: Definitely not.

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Speaker 1: I actually thought in the building the first two periods

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Speaker 1: Scene in bajillion percents. It's not that Carill has been terrible.

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Speaker 1: to win it, to tie it, and then to win

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Speaker 1: it for Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Stinks that that happened, but it was entertaining to walk.

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Speaker 2: Well, I you know, we haven't had time to talk

443
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Speaker 2: about it today on forty one doughnut anniversary day, and

444
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Speaker 2: guards he went last night. So when he's back tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll discuss it in little more depth in

446
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Speaker 2: the basis of what he saw it was. I mean,

447
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Speaker 2: it felt like Minnesota was in good position. Halfway through

448
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Speaker 2: the first half. Then Wisconsin kind of took control. They

449
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Speaker 2: started hitting some three and then Minnesota sort of ease

450
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Speaker 2: their way back in. They get, as you say, the

451
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Speaker 2: three to tie it, and then you get the gut

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Speaker 2: punch on the other end of the of.

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Speaker 5: The court to lose it. I'm not We're not.

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Speaker 2: We don't really endorse moral victories in the Bumper to

455
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Speaker 2: Bumper program, but we do believe in grace periods for

456
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Speaker 2: coaches in their first year. And I think what I

457
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Speaker 2: come away with again watching the last several games, including

458
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Speaker 2: most of the one last night, is the University of

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Speaker 2: Minnesota has a guy who knows how to coach. And

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Speaker 2: that was one of my complaints with the decision they

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Speaker 2: made previously. No offense to Ben Johnson, a terrific guy

462
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Speaker 2: who might still end up being a great head coach,

463
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Speaker 2: but asking a kid that young to learn how to

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Speaker 2: become a head coach at the Big ten level is

465
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Speaker 2: dangerous at best, reckless at worst. And what we I

466
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Speaker 2: think pretty much know about Medved is the guy knows

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Speaker 2: how to run a program. He knows how to run

468
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Speaker 2: a team, and you're seeing that I think most nights

469
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Speaker 2: that he knows how to run the operation.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, he's also going to have to prove that he

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Speaker 2: can accumulate and hold on to enough big time talent

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Speaker 2: when you get to the big ten level. That's a

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Speaker 2: fair question. But in terms of just running the game,

475
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Speaker 2: running a team, have we not already seen enough to

476
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Speaker 2: say this guy's a coach? And to that extent, I

477
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Speaker 2: think Gopher Vans should be very encouraged. As frustrating as

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Speaker 2: it was last night.

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Speaker 1: I have a record, this might be a record on

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Speaker 1: the fan, three different talkers about the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Three. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I'll just let you decide which one could he probably

483
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Speaker 1: have time for only one more? Flores? Brian Flores has

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Speaker 1: been requested by said Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Oh he has? Is that now official?

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Speaker 3: I believe from Steelers request? Yes, Steelers request.

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Speaker 2: Interviews speculated And that's interesting. He's he's already interviewed for

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Speaker 2: the Baltimore head coaching job.

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Speaker 5: Correct that much.

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Speaker 2: We know that's confirmed, and now the Steelers are added

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Speaker 2: to the mix.

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Speaker 5: That's fascinating.

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Speaker 3: So there's that.

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Speaker 2: What was your favorite going We can we can go

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Speaker 2: a little long, all right, Well, just on that, do

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Speaker 2: you feel like that's an enticing destination for him. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's a good question, because the interesting thing about the

498
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Speaker 2: Steelers to me is the assumption is that a Roge

499
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Speaker 2: was only going to consider staying if Tomlin was still

500
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Speaker 2: the head coach, because clearly he's loved working with Tomlin.

501
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Speaker 2: Now maybe he'll know a nothing like B Flow enough.

502
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Speaker 2: If if it's him, then he'd say, okay, I'll come

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Speaker 2: back around. But if you're B Flow and you know

504
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Speaker 2: how important the quarterback position is, that's what you know.

505
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Speaker 2: If Rogers isn't the guy, then they're back at square one,

506
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Speaker 2: right at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 5: And how dangerous is that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think you'd probably say that the Ravens

509
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Speaker 2: job is more attractive despite the Steelers history, because of

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Speaker 2: what they still have at the quarterback position. So the

511
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Speaker 2: plot dickens on Bflow. And we heard again from Steffert.

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Speaker 2: I've heard it from every media jackal we've had on

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Speaker 2: this show who covers the team regularly that none of

514
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: them would be surprised that even if he doesn't get

515
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: a head coaching job, that he would go elsewhere to

516
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Speaker 2: be a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: And that should be concerning.

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Speaker 2: But whether you're concerned by it or not in terms

519
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Speaker 2: of what it means about his relationship within the organization,

520
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Speaker 2: how he feels about the organization. It raises some significant

521
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Speaker 2: issues about who the hell do you get to run

522
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Speaker 2: that defense and can they possibly be as capable as

523
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Speaker 2: a B flow tended to be, So stay tuned. That's

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Speaker 2: going to be along with the quarterback story. Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: B flow matter, how it's resolved, will be the other

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Speaker 2: biggest off season story for the Vikings going into next year.

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Speaker 1: What was your favorite Adam Feelen moment? Officially announced his

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Speaker 1: retirement on social media?

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Speaker 3: Funny is not the right word.

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Speaker 1: Maybe ironic that his Steelers, who went to be with

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Speaker 1: a contender, went the same distance as the Panthers, who

532
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Speaker 1: also made the playoffs and lost in the first round. True,

533
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Speaker 1: so I could have just stayed put. He was just

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Speaker 1: okay for a second stint with the Vikes, but it

535
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Speaker 1: made for a great story. So that's why he was here,

536
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Speaker 1: which we're happy for him. What was your favorite Adam

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Speaker 1: Thielen moment?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think what I said earlier is that his

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Speaker 2: overall accomplishment and production as a guy who obviously was

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Speaker 2: not on anybody's radar, that's what should be celebrated if

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Speaker 2: you end up being the Vikings have had some pretty

542
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: damn good receivers correct, and he's finished. In terms of receptions,

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Speaker 2: I think he's fourth all time in Viking's history, and

544
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Speaker 2: I believe Sefer said there was at least one other category.

545
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's yardage, where he's second only to a pair

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Speaker 2: of Hall of famers Randy Mass and Chris Carter.

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Speaker 5: That's damn good praise.

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Speaker 2: And so he was a really good receiver who I

549
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Speaker 2: think realized, Okay, this is probably the end of it.

550
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Speaker 2: It didn't end so well this year. I think what

551
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Speaker 2: we learned here is he was really brought in for

552
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Speaker 2: those first three games as insurance, and after that he

553
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 2: didn't get much time. He decides let me, He asks

554
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Speaker 2: if Viks to let him go. He goes to Pittsburgh.

555
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: He tries to get a little something going with a ROJ.

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Speaker 2: He kind of does, but it doesn't particularly last as well.

557
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Speaker 2: But the larger story shouldn't be about how he finished.

558
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Speaker 2: The larger story should be about what he accomplished as

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Speaker 2: a guy that you know, nobody gave two second thoughts

560
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Speaker 2: to when he come out of when he came out.

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Speaker 1: Of college, finally a knot Steelers related Dante Moore. You're

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Speaker 1: probably familiar with MPs. He was the guy on the

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Speaker 1: grounds while he was playing Indiana. He was that guy

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Speaker 1: rolling around constantly every play. Well, he's coming back to Oregon,

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Speaker 1: he probably would have been all pretty high. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize that. Yes, so he just announced he is staying

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Speaker 1: with Oregon. He'll be there next season, and he'll be

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Speaker 1: in a loaded QB class and twenty twenty seven fascinating.

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Speaker 5: I want to go to the draft.

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Speaker 2: I do know there were some football people who advised

571
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Speaker 2: that that's what he needed to do to give himself

572
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Speaker 2: the best chance to get better seasoning. But generally, when

573
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Speaker 2: when agents tell you, well, you're going to be a

574
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Speaker 2: top I mean, I assume he's going to be a

575
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Speaker 2: top ten pick this year, just on the basis of promise.

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Speaker 2: Then that's pretty interesting that he'd say I'm going to

577
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Speaker 2: come back for another year and guess who's gonna he's

578
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Speaker 2: going to be playing with Golden golpher Cope parents. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we didn't get into that yesterday. He is officially linking up.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much money he got, but I'm

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Speaker 2: guessing a lot. With the University of Oregon. My sources say,

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Speaker 2: if you're wondering, the Hoosiers did consider him, but ultimately

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Speaker 2: decided that he wasn't good enough to become a part

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Speaker 2: of the Indiana secondary.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying that's what I heard. I don't know

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Speaker 5: if it's true. That's that's that's what I was told.

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Speaker 3: You're just supporting what you know.

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Speaker 2: Five twenty Sports Fix Well done. Will come back and

589
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Speaker 2: get to a number of those texts that have come

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Speaker 2: in on forty one Donut Memories twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 5: On this date, stay tended.

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Speaker 1: It's a wild Wednesday here on. We're taking your talkbacks

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Speaker 2: We are going to be spinning your forty one Donut

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Speaker 2: Memories anecdotes from what you remember if you were around

599
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Speaker 2: twenty five years ago. Today, Vikings traveled to New York

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Speaker 2: for the NFC Title Game, a chance to get to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and the Vikings are two point I

602
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Speaker 2: think two or two and a half point favorites in

603
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Speaker 2: that game, even though the game was played in New York.

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Speaker 2: That's how lightly regarded the Giants were. And the final

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00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: score was Viking zero or Donut New York Giants New

606
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Speaker 2: York Football Giants forty one points, forty one points. So

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Speaker 2: it's a day that we'll live in infamy. It is calamitous.

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Speaker 2: Somebody said, Dan, wait a minute, now, isn't this the

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Speaker 2: anniversary of the Minneapolis Miracle as well? And the answer

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Speaker 2: is yes. But here's what I would add, that was

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Speaker 2: how many years ago?

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Speaker 5: Is that seven? I think that was seven years ago.

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Speaker 2: So it's got to be like an even numbered year,

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Speaker 2: like ten year anniversaries. Big, twenty year anniversary is big,

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Speaker 2: twenty five is big. So you know, if I'm still

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Speaker 2: doing the show on the twenty five year anniversary of

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Speaker 2: the Minneapolis Miracle, that in itself will be a miracle.

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Speaker 2: But beyond that, that would be the time to do it.

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Speaker 2: So it's got to be you don't just do a

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Speaker 2: big anniversary for seven years ago. Oh nobody cares about

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Speaker 2: Lucky seven in that regard. It has to do with

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Speaker 2: this being twenty five years since forty one donut What

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Speaker 2: is the worst in your memory? What's the most one

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Speaker 2: sided Packer playoff loss? Is there one that stands out

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Speaker 2: to you? I don't seems like you lost a lot

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Speaker 2: of close postseason games. Have you gotten blown out in

627
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Speaker 2: the postseason and I've forgotten about it?

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Speaker 1: Mostly calamitous losses that could have been avoided easily.

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Speaker 5: Lighthead as recently as Saturday Night. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean they got smoked by Philly last year, but

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Speaker 1: even that was close ish until the second half.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Mostly it's just heartbreaking finding new ways to lose. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there is that I'm not thinking of, but that's

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Speaker 1: what comes to mind most more than they just getting killed.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'll accept that.

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Speaker 2: Here's some texts that have come in I've saved from

638
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Speaker 2: many of you regarding forty one Donut memories, but keep

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Speaker 2: them coming Bright Shawan, Brian Kiffe and text line at

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Speaker 2: six four, six eight six. This is from six five

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Speaker 2: to one. Guy. Let's see if we have a name

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Speaker 2: as Danny and stillwater for forty one Donut.

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Speaker 5: I was living in Oakdale, Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: I had just opened a beer moments before kickoff, waiting

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Speaker 2: for my friends to arrive to watch the game. Before

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Speaker 2: I had taken two SIPs of my beer, and my

647
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Speaker 2: friends had arrived. It was already fourteen to nothing. He's

648
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Speaker 2: right about that. He's being not figurative, he's being illiteral.

649
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: I looked at my beer and said, this game is over.

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Speaker 2: It's the only game I've ever watched that was over

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Speaker 2: before I even drank three ounces of beer.

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Speaker 5: That's an interesting way to put it.

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Speaker 2: We moved into a new house, hosted a big housewarming

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Speaker 2: slash vikings party.

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Speaker 5: Everyone had left by the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: To this day, my wife still refuses to host any

657
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Speaker 2: sports related party, so it's traumatized her. Twenty five years later,

658
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: she still hasn't gotten over it. Such a vivid memory

659
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: of that day. My poor husband was beyond depressed. And

660
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: then my daughter, Oh boy, hold on, now they're coming

661
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: in fast again. Where did it go? I got to

662
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: get the punch line here, I had it. Hold on,

663
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: give me a second. Let me scroll down here, see

664
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: if I can keep up with the Actually, this one's

665
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: further up. There's the beer one. We just finished that,

666
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: and I was I'd moved past the beer thing. But

667
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: my cursor is or is not cooperating with me. All

668
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: of a sudden, h.

669
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 5: Everyone's going with a third quarter.

670
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: Oh and then my daughter, a very late potty trainer,

671
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: went potty in the potty chair for the very first

672
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: time victory.

673
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 5: So that was the consolation prize. That's big.

674
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: That cannot be underrated as a or overrated as a

675
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: very very important moment. I was twenty three years old

676
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: rights Ryan for forty one donut. In my mind, I

677
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: knew everything. I was watching the game with my dad.

678
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: At the two minute warning of the first half. He

679
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: shut off the TV and said, the Vikes are not

680
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: going to score a single point. I turned the TV

681
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: back on proceeded to waste two more hours. I would

682
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: never question his wisdom again. Rest in peace, Dad.

683
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: I hope to know.

684
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: Half of what you ever did. That's always the interesting question.

685
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: I got a lot of texts about this where if

686
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: the game gets out of hand. It was thirty four

687
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: to nothing at the half. If the game gets that

688
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: out of hand, are you more likely to just go

689
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: do something else?

690
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 5: Or was it?

691
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: I'm admittedly I'm an ambulance chaser, and in this case

692
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 2: I was there covering it, so I had a job

693
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: to do. I couldn't leave if I wanted to, But

694
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: I'm always fascinated by which way it goes.

695
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 5: Do you do you almost.

696
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: Does it reach a point when it's that bad, that calamitous,

697
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: that you can't look away because it's almost elevated to

698
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: bad theater, to such a bad art form that you

699
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: want to see. Okay, how much worse can it get?

700
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: And the only reason score wise, it didn't get much

701
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: worse in the second half, as the Giants were really

702
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: trying to score, but they just kept pulling onto the ball.

703
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: That was one of the I will say this, that

704
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 2: was one of the few games I can recall covering

705
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 2: in any sport in which it did feel like one

706
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: of the teams stopped participating, quit, had no interest in

707
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: in continuing to play at even a minimal level of

708
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: effort and accomplishment.

709
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 5: It was we're quitting, We're not. What's what tells the difference.

710
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 5: Everybody can see it.

711
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: I mean, if we even if we try, we're still

712
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: going to end up being blown out, so let's not

713
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: even bother to try. I I didn't think there was

714
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: much effort, and effort's a tough thing to judge, it

715
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: really is.

716
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 5: It's easy to say or they just quit.

717
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: That was a game I feel confidence saying that the

718
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings quit, and what made it more stunning was

719
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: they weren't playing a great team.

720
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 5: In fact, when you look up.

721
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: What happened to the super Bowl that year, Giants getting

722
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: there because they beat us. So this is the two

723
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: thousand season, it'd be the two thousand and one super

724
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: Bowl because I have no recollection of exactly what took place.

725
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: Then if you're playing like you know, the eighty five Bears,

726
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: and you say, well, look like you quit, and well, yeah,

727
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: it's not ever good to quit, but you were playing

728
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 2: an all time great team.

729
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: They got smashed by the Ravens thirty four to seven to.

730
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 5: Thirty four to seven.

731
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: You say, that's quite a swing from forty one donut,

732
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: isn't it to losing thirty four to seven. I think

733
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: that was a big part of it. Trombone guy checking in,

734
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: do you know if forty one donut was the game

735
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: where Madden said that the Vikings defense looked like cheers?

736
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: Hilarious description. If that wasn't the game, it certainly could

737
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: have been. Thanks for the fun memories. I don't remember

738
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: that because I was at the game, but a number

739
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: of people have said that is what how he described,

740
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: there's someone when you practice your set up chairs, when

741
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: you run through chairs just to share zones, looks like

742
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: a chair.

743
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 5: There, it is, there, it is. It's too good, is it?

744
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: And it's especially effective coming because Madden wasn't a ripper.

745
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: It wasn't a guy went out of his way to

746
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: humiliate teams. But I think sometimes you couldn't. You couldn't

747
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: disguise your contempt when the performance is is that at

748
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: that level. Was looking forward to watching it in can

749
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: Kun went to a sports bar and this is pre internet,

750
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: so by the time they got it tuned in, it

751
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: was already twenty seven donut. We didn't and couldn't believe it.

752
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: Forty one donut was the day I wanted Moss to

753
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: leave because he'd never win here, the day I stopped

754
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: expecting anything. Well, you know, as we mentioned earlier, Moss

755
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: is the guy who named it forty one donut. I

756
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: was there after the game when he was talking to

757
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of us. He had a number of nicknames

758
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: for me. Is I think his favorite was Baldy. He

759
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: used to call me Baldy, very you know, very creative, Baldy.

760
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 5: Moss.

761
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've been called worse, but that was

762
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: what he that's what he went with. And you know,

763
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: the story we told much earlier, that's been often told,

764
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: is that supposedly before the game, there was a scene

765
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: with security with Randy because Randy was trying to get

766
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: some of his bobos down on the field unsuccessfully apparently

767
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: at Giants Stadium. And it did seem to be a

768
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: window into the concentration level, intensity level of your favorite

769
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: football team for a game. Let's remember this is another

770
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: to me, big part of the calamitous aspect of it.

771
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: The Vikings were favored to win that game, even though

772
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: the game was played.

773
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: In New York on the road.

774
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: Michael Vick torched the Packers in Green Bay twenty seven

775
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: to seven, two thousand and two. Well, again, I remember

776
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: that game. It's not forty one donut. It's it's I mean,

777
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: it was thorough, but it's not forty one donut. Sorry,

778
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's it's it's not even I don't

779
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: think it was even. Also, for the record, it was

780
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: like six years old at that point. He probably have

781
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: very little recollection of it, which is probably good for you. Right,

782
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: was very impressive, very impressive in that game, much like JG,

783
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: I had a little interest in watching the game past

784
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: the first quarter. I left and purchased a new fish

785
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: house on my way home from a party in Plymouth

786
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: to my house in Eden Prairie, and I was on

787
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: the ice on Lake Minnetaka fishing by the fourth quarter.

788
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: That's probably smart. That's uh, that probably makes some sense.

789
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: Who had so how have we had that Maddens sound forever?

790
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: Ten of plays that he's burnt into a crowd?

791
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 5: That's great, it is great.

792
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: It fits perfectly today, absolutely perfectly for uh.

793
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: I can't blame it.

794
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: Liz is checking in from e I went to the

795
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: game with my brother, sixteen year old niece and my

796
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: twenty my two seven year old nephews.

797
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 5: Have to start the heartbreak young, you know.

798
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: We went via charter and on the way to the game,

799
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: our charter guide says it says it's a beautiful day.

800
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: Forty one degrees. That's how many points I am predicting

801
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: the Vikings will put up today.

802
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

803
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: Good story, especially if true. And it did turn out

804
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: that one of the teams put up forty one. It

805
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: just didn't happen to be the Vikings.

806
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 5: Dan.

807
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 2: I drank too much during that game, trying to numb

808
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: the pain. Afterwards, I burned my Robert Griffith jersey in

809
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: the Snow sixty one to two. The guy Demed writes,

810
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: as bad as forty one donut was, Blair walsh shank

811
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: left was more devastating. Must be ten years now. I

812
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: just saw it again the other day. It popped up

813
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: on a meme. I don't know why. You know what

814
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: fascinates me about the Blair Walsh wide left? And I

815
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: get his point. I've said earlier one donut wasn't devastating

816
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: the way some of those close finishes were, obviously, because

817
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: by the time you get to the end of that game,

818
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: you have no you know, you're not holding on to

819
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: any sort of foolish hope that your team's gonna come

820
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: back and win. For sheer humiliation. I think it's top.

821
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 5: It's top. It's tough to top forty one donut.

822
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: But what struck me watching the meme tape of the

823
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: ten of the wide left miss by Blair Walsh on

824
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: it wasn't like it. I think it was like twenty

825
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 2: seven yards it was inside thirty was the number of

826
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: people you watch the crowd. This was at the original

827
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: Bank it's now Huntington Bank Stadium. You watch the crowd

828
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: behind the uprights right and even before the kick is

829
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: clearly wide left, just when it's been when Walsh has

830
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: made contact foot to football, they're raising their hands in

831
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: the air in anticipation of what they assume is we

832
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: won the game.

833
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 5: It's over. We won that.

834
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: It's going to be good because it's got to be good,

835
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: because it's too short to be anything but good. They're

836
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: already celebrating it. They're already canonizing it literally right. And

837
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: that's the cruelest part to me is then the realization

838
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: that they got to put their arms back down, said

839
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: did I I mean.

840
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: He made that right? No? No, he missed it. How

841
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 5: is that even possible?

842
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 3: Blair Walsh from twenty seven yards left?

843
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 5: Hash he snapped good?

844
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: Spot down?

845
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 3: Walfs just kick us up and it is no good.

846
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 6: He missed it?

847
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 5: Are you kidding? The season can't hind like that.

848
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: He hassed it left and the Seattle Seahawks are off

849
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: to Charlotte. Blair Walsh missed a twenty seven yard field

850
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: goal and the Minnesota Vikings are.

851
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 5: Going to lose ten to nine. There it is.

852
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. And the nine, Yeah, we drove right. You know,

853
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: all we needed was three there chip shot. You know,

854
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: it's an extra point easy and he went wide left

855
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: on it. I don't know the exact date of that one,

856
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: but to his point, I get how that's more devastating

857
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: because it's a close finish, obviously wide left Atlanta NFC

858
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: title game more devastating. Brett throwing across his body in

859
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: New Orleans more devastating. But this to me is the

860
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: most humiliating moment in the Vikings postseason history. And when

861
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: you get routed by an ordinary quarterback named Kerry Collins, who,

862
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: as I said, finished with the passed.

863
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 5: I think they totally yards.

864
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: They had over five hundred in the game and first

865
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: half he was clinical and it was thirty four to

866
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: nothing before we even hit the second half in that

867
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: ball game, keep the text coming, batch on, Brian kafean

868
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: text line at six four, six eighty six, if you

869
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: have any particular reminiscence regarding this historic occasion, and then

870
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: now that this is twenty five, my promise to the

871
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: audience is we will not commemorate it at twenty six.

872
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: At twenty seven, if I'm still here, twenty eight, whatever,

873
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: the next big one. I admit if we get to thirty,

874
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: I'll be shocked. I'm still doing this show, but if

875
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: I am, that might be a time we come back

876
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 2: to it. And we won't go back to Mitch Berger

877
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: as we did earlier today, the Kicker, but we will

878
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: probably try to go back to Robert Smith, the running back.

879
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: That turned out to be Robert Smith's last game in

880
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: the National Football League.

881
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 5: So keep the text coming.

882
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: We'll get into a couple of other controversial subjects as

883
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 2: we prepare for the top of the hour pause.

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890
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,360
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891
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,440
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892
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio dot com slash teachers. iHeart radio dot com slash teachers.

893
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: So we got no wild tonight. We got no Wolves tonight, right,

894
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: that is correct? Wild Weekly thought seven o'clock.

895
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 5: Who is it featuring tonight? Do we know?

896
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: You'll have to find out, okay.

897
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: Because you don't know either. No, I doubt the Fallness knows.

898
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: He tends to wing those.

899
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: I'd imagine it's Fallness antenna and yeah, someone probably pat Well.

900
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: That could be a combination of each and every one

901
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: of them. And then we've got the divisional round of

902
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs right as we call it, the business that

903
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: includes only think about it, a single SC North team.

904
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 5: Who knew?

905
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: I mean, if you go back to before the season

906
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: began and say by the second weekend of the playoffs,

907
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: only the Bears will be less standing, people would have

908
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: mocked you.

909
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 5: That's what is I think.

910
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: Inviting about the National Football League is we know a lot,

911
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: but there are occasions where teams can kind of jump up.

912
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: How much further they go? I don't know, I mean,

913
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: I don't The Rams are good. Stafford's you know, I

914
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: guess his health is a little bit in question, although

915
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: I know he'll play. I think he you know a

916
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: lot of people are counting on bear weather, but the

917
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: Rams played in a snowy Philly last year? In the

918
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: was that in the was that the NFC title game

919
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: last year?

920
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 5: Whatever?

921
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever round it was, Rams gave the Eagles all

922
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: they can handle before ultimately succumbing. I mean they had

923
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: the ball with a chance to either was a tire

924
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: or go ahead, and they eventually had to give it

925
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: up on down. So we'll see how that goes. I

926
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: think that's the second game Sunday. I think it's five

927
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: point thirty Central time out of Chicago. Do you know

928
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: who first infamously dubbed the game forty one donut? Yes,

929
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 2: this is a question from Eric in Circle Pines. The answers, yes,

930
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: we do know it, unless he's he knows it and

931
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: is just challenging us.

932
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: Randy Moss.

933
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: As we talked about earlier in the show, Moss was

934
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: the guy who didn't really seem all that devastated after

935
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: the game and referred to it. That's how it got

936
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 2: the name. We weren't clever enough, the average media jackal

937
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: amongst us. We may have been an effective cheap shot artist,

938
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: but none of us came up with forty one donut.

939
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 5: We used it.

940
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: It's become infamous ever since, that's for sure. But we

941
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: didn't come up with it. How long until Greenland gets

942
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: an NFL franchise? Well played to connect things to the

943
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 2: A section. I'll probably get back to that a little

944
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: bit on tomorrow's program. The guest line up tomorrow is

945
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: interesting because I think Mace in Your Face is back

946
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: in studio tomorrow. He's usually with us on He's usually

947
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: with us on Wednesday, but I think it was coming

948
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: back today from Florida, so he will be on tomorrow's program.

949
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 5: And then what else do we have tomorrow?

950
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 2: We hope Sean Salisbury is back and confirm Tom Crean

951
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: is back to talk hoops NBA hoops as well. Let

952
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: me get to a couple other memories from forty one Donut,

953
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: because they have been coming in almost from the start

954
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: of the program. Lawyer Tom writes, after forty one Donut,

955
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: I was completely disgusted with the Purple and Randy Moss

956
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: in particular, so much so that I gave away my

957
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: moss Away White number eighty four jersey to a neighbor

958
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 2: kid the top it off. It was several years before

959
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: I purchased another jersey, A Lovely Home slash Purple number

960
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: forty two. Darren Sharper needs to say that jersey was

961
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: donated to good Will not long after he went to

962
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: the Saints, that a bunch of other stuff happened. I'm

963
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: guessing it's now in a landfill somewhere or being recycled

964
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: through yet another good Will, waiting for some unsuspecting grandmother

965
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: to snatch up that sweet find for her sad sack grandson. Dan,

966
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: My mom will be ninety on Saturday. She's been a

967
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: Vikings fan, say since day one. Her health has really

968
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: been declining the other day she told me maybe next year,

969
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: that's Dean checking in. Yeah, well, happy birthday to mom.

970
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: It's a good run, man, if you're hitting ninety. I

971
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: hope she can hang in there. And if she can

972
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: be optimistic, perhaps anybody could be optimistic. Dan, My first

973
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: Vikings game was the playoff loss of the Falcons, and

974
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 2: I said never again. Then the Vikings drafted a college

975
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: teammate of mind, Jimmy Kleinsaucer. Fast forward to forty one donut.

976
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: Now I am scarred for life. Scarred for life.

977
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: That lawyer Tom text Yes said he had the sharper.

978
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: What do you think he has a jersey of now?

979
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: Because they cursed?

980
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right.

981
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: That's that's a very good.

982
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 5: Well.

983
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: I got Walsh memories coming in a wide left. I

984
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: don't want to milk that too much. I want to

985
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: stick it to even that did come up stick to

986
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: forty one donut. But so let me get to a

987
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 2: couple more of those before we perhaps head into some

988
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 2: other subjects. Late in this broadcast, I seem to remember

989
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: Chris Carter and your show calling it forty one bagel

990
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: one time?

991
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 5: Does anyone else remember that? I don't.

992
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: It's I remember very little about my own show. I

993
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: learned almost every day how much better other people's memories

994
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: are going way way back. They called back the stuff

995
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: that I had long forgotten, and then it kind of

996
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: rings a bell in my head, which is pretty impressive.

997
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: Dan twenty five years ago, I was in the hospital

998
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: with my then wife after she was induced to give

999
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: birth to our son. Things had not progressed very much

1000
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: about the day, so she told me to go and

1001
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: get dinner. She never mentioned she want anything, so I

1002
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: just went grabbed myself McDonald's, ate it in the car,

1003
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 2: came back to the room, ended up getting absolutely chastised

1004
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: by the mom to be for not bringing her back

1005
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: any food, even though she didn't mention it, so I

1006
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: went got her food. We had our son two days later.

1007
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: Didn't think it would get any worse than forty one donut,

1008
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: but it did. That's Nick checking in from Bell playing.

1009
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: A lot of people have sort of complimentary stories that

1010
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: something else happened on that day that actually ended up

1011
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: being more significant than the forty one donut game itself,

1012
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: which often happens.

1013
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 5: It's just an also.

1014
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: You know in other news, vikings are edged forty one

1015
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: to donut. Dan keep talking about forty one donut. I'm

1016
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: changing stations in about forty one seconds. That's from Ron.

1017
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: Conspiracy people. Conspiracy theory people are weak minded idiots. But

1018
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: as I recall, before the forty one donut game, coaches

1019
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: calling plays never covered their faces.

1020
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 5: After that game, they all did. Am I wrong?

1021
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 2: Why is it that not at least part? Why is

1022
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: that not at least part of the conversation? I don't

1023
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: remember that. I'm still not convinced. There's still coaches I

1024
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: see who don't do a particularly good job of covering

1025
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 2: their faces. And I'm still not convinced it matters as

1026
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: much as we like to think it does.

1027
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 5: But maybe it does. I don't know.

1028
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: I mean there's you know, everybody's looking for an edge.

1029
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: I mean there's no question about that. Everybody wants it

1030
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: on an edge of some sort. But I don't remember

1031
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: that being the tipping point. But maybe other people can

1032
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: remind me that that is indeed the k.

1033
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 5: Let's see, so I said, you try.

1034
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: There's some stuff on Addison and Naylor coming in here.

1035
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: I was a sophomore in high school for forty one Donut.

1036
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 2: We turned the game off at halftime, went snowmollbiling. Then

1037
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: we watched Gladiator, which had just come out on VHS.

1038
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: Turned out to be a great afternoon. That's another dated

1039
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: reference VHS. A lot of people don't even know what

1040
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: the hell that means, but you know, as a recorder

1041
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: is what it was.

1042
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 5: The forty one.

1043
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: Donut game doesn't stand out that much to me at

1044
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: this point, I'm forty years old.

1045
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 5: It's just on the list.

1046
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: At this point, I can say it was the closest

1047
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: run of the ninety eight season that got most of

1048
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: us hooked in our young teenage years. This is a

1049
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: painful existence school Vikes. Speaking of the Vikes, we just

1050
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: had the anniversary yesterday of I think was yesterday, the

1051
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: anniversary of the sixteen to six Super Bowl loss to Pittsburgh,

1052
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: and that had me do a little bit of research

1053
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: on my own yesterday. We know that the Vikings have

1054
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: lost all four Super Bowls, right, that's not news, and

1055
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: it's been a long time since they've been in a

1056
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

1057
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 5: But what amazed me.

1058
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: I've mentioned previously that the Vikings were held scoreless in

1059
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: the first half of all four Super Bowls they'd played in,

1060
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 2: which is not a recipe for victory unless you're the Bears.

1061
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 5: But here's the other one that that shocked me.

1062
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: I counted up in the four Super Bowls start to finish,

1063
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: two non garbage time touchdowns scored by the offense in

1064
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: four games.

1065
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 5: That's not going to work either, is it.

1066
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: Because in the sixteen to six game, I think the

1067
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: only touchdown was on a block kick. The offense did

1068
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: not provide any points. So if you look back on

1069
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: the futility of the Purple you want to stay with

1070
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: the calamity theme.

1071
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 5: That's not helpful.

1072
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: Now. Again, the games were much more lower score then

1073
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: than they are now. But nevertheless, we had some really

1074
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 2: good offenses and we've done nothing in the for Super Bowls.

1075
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: When you have two basically two touchdowns when it's still

1076
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: a game, and two other touchdowns in garbage time through

1077
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: twelve No, what's four times four sixteen quarters of action?

1078
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: That's doesn't show much sign that you're much of an

1079
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 2: offensive juggernaut for sure. We'll finish with a couple more texts,

1080
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 2: remind you what you missed earlier in the program, including

1081
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: a terrific conversation that began about three point fifteen, and

1082
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: we'll set up tomorrow's broadcast as well. Remind you what

1083
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: we have coming up right after we're done at six

1084
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 2: thirty State Tour.

1085
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 5: It's the Bumper to Bumper.

1086
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 3: Show, right It's brought to you by American Pressure.

1087
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: Quite an electric program again today, and it all began

1088
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: with a visit with Wolve's assistant coach, Micah Nori, and

1089
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: we hope that this is the first of many appearances

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Speaker 2: with Micah.

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00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 5: It was a lot of fun.

1092
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: We talked a lot about the fact that we're both

1093
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 2: Indiana grads, so we're both enjoying the football run. We

1094
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: talked a little bit about how a guy who played

1095
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 2: baseball at Indiana University ends up becoming a professional basketball coach,

1096
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: How he got down that particular track, and it turns

1097
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: out a former Indiana basketball player that I once chased

1098
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: through several busy Bloomington avenues to get a comment on

1099
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: a controversial story is the guy who first got Micah

1100
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: Norri into basketball into basketball coaching in Toronto. And it

1101
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: just so happens also that that individual is the older

1102
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: brother of Chris Carter. His name's Butch Carter. So that

1103
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. And then we did finally

1104
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 2: get to the Wolves victory over the Buck last night.

1105
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: We talked, he talked, I thought quite candidly about the

1106
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: sort of the Dillingham arc to this point, and a

1107
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: little bit about what's fueling the Wolves success most recently.

1108
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: So I hardly recommend the Mike and Nori interview that

1109
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: was followed by a terrific time with Mitch Berger, the

1110
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: punter and kicker or I guess you could say long

1111
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: distance kicker on the two thousand Vikings team that ultimately

1112
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: got to the NFC Title Game and lost forty one donut,

1113
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: which has been kind of the sub theme of the show.

1114
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: That lost took place twenty five years ago today, and

1115
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: so Mitch was at about three forty seven or so, then

1116
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: Seafert in studio for a solid hour. He also covered

1117
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: forty one Donut. Once we got that out of the way,

1118
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: we got to some specific current items regarding the vikings,

1119
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: including the Wagnerian opera at the quarterback position, a little

1120
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: bit about b flow and he might or might not

1121
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: be headed, because the longer this goes, the more I'm

1122
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: beginning to think he's leaving one way or the other.

1123
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: And then a lot of your texts really finally offered

1124
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 2: up between after the five twenty sports fix from Brett

1125
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: blakemore the rest of the program, We've had a number

1126
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: of them, and a number of them quite frankly, that

1127
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm not able to get to. I will get to

1128
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: this one. I was on the flight crew for the

1129
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: team charter after the forty one donut game. Was the

1130
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: first to let Denny know that Brian Billick and the

1131
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: Ravens were going to the Super Bowl, one of the

1132
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: pilots told me after hearing it on the flight home.

1133
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: I remember talking to Mitch Burger once about the footballs.

1134
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: He said he would put them in the dryer and

1135
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: tumble them for a while to condition them as well.

1136
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: Mitch Berger, by the way did throw a placekicker named

1137
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: Gary Anderson under the bus one hundred thousand lot radio

1138
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: between three forty five and four point fifteen. If you

1139
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: want details, you'll have to podcast the show and listen

1140
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: to that part of it.

1141
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 5: Berger has always been.

1142
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: An incredibly blunt individual, and now I think he felt like, Okay,

1143
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: it's twenty five years later, what that was the difference?

1144
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: This is how I felt about that kicker, So I

1145
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: might as well tell you now, and if you look

1146
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: it up you'll find out. I think, coincidentally enough, it's

1147
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: the same kicker who went wide left for his only

1148
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: miss during the.

1149
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 5: Nineteen ninety eight season.

1150
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: And that NFC title game, you'll recall the Vikings are

1151
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: not really favored. They were at home favored by double digits.

1152
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: I think it was ten, maybe even eleven points, So

1153
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: a lot of good stuff.

1154
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 5: Today.

1155
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: Kessler had the day off because he's battling a cold

1156
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: that's barely gotten into his chest. So no Kessler today.

1157
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: Will probably return us some a section stuff tomorrow. In addition,

1158
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: tomorrow we hope for Sean Salisbury's return. We have confirmed

1159
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: Tom Crean, who these days is doing a lot of

1160
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: the TV analysis post the game halftime and pregame as

1161
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: well on the.

1162
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 5: Wolves FanDuel channel.

1163
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: So Tom Crean is scheduled for tomorrow and Mace in

1164
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: your Face makes a return in studio tomorrow. We will

1165
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: preview with him the national championship game Indiana. By the

1166
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: last I saw, they were eight and a half point

1167
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: favorites to win, which is scary when you think about

1168
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: it on a number of levels. But I guess that's

1169
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: largely a function of their dominance throughout their postseason run

1170
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: to this point. I still almost can't. I still have

1171
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: a hard time believing it. I really do.

1172
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 5: The whole thing still feels a little.

1173
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: Bit like a fever dream, you know, because it's just

1174
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: so preposterous. It's the definition of preposterous that Indiana would

1175
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: find find himself in his position where over confidence literally

1176
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 2: seems to be its only enemy for the National Championship.

1177
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 5: It's still mind boggling, it really is.

1178
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 3: I mean, this is losing his.

1179
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: Program in the in college football until halfway through this

1180
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 2: past season, the twenty twenty five season.

1181
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 3: This is what you do on a video game.

1182
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: You hire yourself as a coach as the worst historic team,

1183
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: and you take him to a national Championship in like

1184
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: two years basically, and it's happening in real life now.

1185
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: Now I'm waiting for the sig to the pros rumors

1186
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: to start.

1187
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 5: Now.

1188
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he's made for that. I don't know

1189
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: that if you would have if he would have any

1190
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 2: interest in it either. But that's the only next step,

1191
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: right because they've locked him in in terms of college,

1192
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: I think for a while, but is it possible somebody

1193
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: from the pros is going to come calling? I have

1194
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: not heard his name mentioned, so maybe he's not even

1195
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: viewed as a guy who could make that kind of jump.

1196
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 5: But if you're you know, it's the old deal.

1197
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 2: If you're an Indiana fan, you just assume somehow he's

1198
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: going to get away or something's going to happen, and

1199
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: then we're never going to get this back again because

1200
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: it does seem to be so directly connected with him.

1201
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: So we'll have Mace break things down on the game

1202
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 2: file a live report on his I think he's just

1203
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: like week and a half in Florida and he's already back,

1204
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: which is I give him credit. Man, if I had

1205
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 2: a place in Florida, I might stay there more than

1206
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: a week at this particular point given the weather conditions

1207
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: that we've been dealing with.

1208
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 5: But that's basically the way it works.

1209
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: Tom from looks like Sue falls. Here's my forty one

1210
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: donuts story. This was kind of early in the Internet boom,

1211
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: and I was so confident that the Vikings were going

1212
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: to win. I had all the travel arrangings already made

1213
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: ready to go to the Super Bowl, which I believe

1214
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: was in Miami or Tampa Bay Tampa Bay that year.

1215
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: I had everything queued up on my laptop. All I

1216
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: had to do was hit submit to schedule the flights,

1217
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: the hotel, and the rental car.

1218
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 5: Two minutes into the.

1219
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: Second quarter, I shut down the laptop and entered a

1220
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: deep state of depression. Think about that, you had all

1221
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: lined up where you just got to hit the button

1222
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: to confirm all of it. You feel like, yeah, I'm

1223
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 2: ahead of the game. I'm gonna get ahead of everybody else.

1224
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty good about myself. And you're in the

1225
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: second quarter and you go they're down.

1226
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 5: Thirty four to nothing. Who am I kidding? Who am

1227
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 5: I kidding?

1228
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 2: We're not going to Why would I bother to see

1229
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: another team? The New York Giants in the Super Bowl.

1230
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: There's sometimes when you practice you'll set up chairs, you know,

1231
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: when you run through chairs just to share zone.

1232
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Viking defense looks like this chair.

1233
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: Well, the the equivalent of that Madden rant, which I

1234
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: guess you tell me commonplays a lot, is that it's

1235
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: the old like don't don't they in basketball? Don't you

1236
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: say if you're not a very good defender, you're a

1237
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: cone and basically people are just going around the cone

1238
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: hockey as well.

1239
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 5: Okay, that one, it's it's pretty much the.

1240
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 2: Equivalent of of that seventy sixth three guy rights.

1241
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 5: I definitely hate watch that whole game.

1242
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: That's interesting because I asked earlier if you, if you're

1243
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: a Vikings fan, do you turn it off or you

1244
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: keep watching it? And he says he hate watches that game.

1245
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: The game I've watched, I bet you ten times, isn't

1246
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: that one because it's so thorough.

1247
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 5: The one I watch and learn something new every.

1248
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: Time I do it is a nineteen ninety eight NFC

1249
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 2: title game here against Atlanta. Because there were almost endlessly

1250
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: in that game twists and turns that you look back

1251
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: and say, well, that could have made all the difference,

1252
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: and some of those first time around I didn't pay

1253
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 2: attention to. But generally it's got to be a close

1254
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: enough game for any one or two plays to matter.

1255
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 2: When it's forty one donut, no such. There is no

1256
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: single play or two or five that would seemingly make

1257
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: any difference at all. So six thirty tonight, do we

1258
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: go straight to Fan and the Man in the Air?

1259
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: And then at seven it's Beyond the Pond? No, that's Saturday.

1260
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: A great show, a very good show. Yes, better than

1261
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: Sunday sermons, as far as I'm concerned.

1262
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 3: Some people might say that.

1263
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 2: Some people have said that, So what's at seven? Wild week,

1264
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: lud weekly of our and we don't know who's in

1265
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: it yet, but we assume it's Fallness. We assume it's

1266
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: Tenna and maybe Mikoletti probably possibly look forward to all chances.

1267
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: Great night on the Fan, No reason to turn the

1268
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: dial now, iHeartRadio. Apple'll get you here too, free, free, free,

1269
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 2: everybody wants something for free.

1270
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Speaker 5: We'll talk to you tomorrow beginning of three