1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Boston's Bulldozer operate seven days a week. The Kuner Report 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: weekend edition, WRKO The Voice of Boston. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Should we have fifty year mortgages? Trump and his economic 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: inner circle are now giving it a serious hard look 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: to deal with the affordability crisis. It would clearly lower 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: monthly payments by about two hundred, maybe even two hundred 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: and fifty dollars every month. But man, you'd be paying 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: for it much longer, obviously, and the interest you'd be 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: paying interest through the nose. So in the end, is 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: it really worth it. Let's go right back to Tanya 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: in Boston. She is talking about when this was about 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: maybe twenty years ago. She was a student, had two 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars in debt, basically had about one thousand 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: dollars to her name. They said to her, you've got 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: to become a homeowner. That's the best way for you 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: to advance. So so she took out a loan and 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: then we had to get we got a heartbreak, We 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: had to go Tan, you please pick up where you 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: left off. 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: So I got the loan. I had a point to pay, 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: and prior to owning the house, I owed about thirteen 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: thousand dollars in taxes. When the year went by and 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: I had this loan, it was like a break even 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: for me because when I did my taxes with the house, 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: now I had something to my name, and I got 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: about sixteen thousand dollars back from all the interests I 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: had paid with this loan. But the fine print of 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: this loan is what a lot of people didn't read. 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: You can't You couldn't stay in those loans. You had 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: to refinance. So I ended up refinancing three times. So 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: the second time I refinanced, I refinanced to get rid 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: of the points, and then the economy was, you know, 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: the bubble was bursting, the things were starting to settle down. 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: And then the following year for those taxes, I still 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: got about sixteen grand back. And then the third time 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: I refinanced was to get a better interest rate, and 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: then I stayed in that loan. But I can understand 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: why they want to do this fifty year mortgage because 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: I'm in the same predicament right now in a little 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: bit different scenario. We are currently in a house and 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: I have a seven to one year arm, and that 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: arm is going to expire this coming August, we're trying 43 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: to get a house edition. We have not moved forward 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: yet because the interest rates are like six percent and 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: my seven to one year arm is at an interest 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,279 Speaker 3: rate of three percent. So right there, once I refinance, 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: it's going to double my payments, my payment amount, and 48 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: then if I want to add the addition on top 49 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: of it, we're looking at like three times the amount 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: of money that we're spending per month. So for me, 51 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: I think if you're thinking, if you're talking about the 52 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: fifty year, I can put kind of a positive spin 53 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: on this. It depends on the mentality that you're going 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 3: to use a fifty year loan. So when I heard 55 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: you say it on a radio today, I immediately text 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: my husband, like, they're going to do a fifty year alone. 57 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: That's our win because we can get in it. And 58 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: it depends it really depends on what the what the 59 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: fine print of that fifty year alone. 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: Hear you and Tanya, I think what you're saying is this, 61 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: use the lower monthly payments to your advantage, and obviously 62 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: don't stay in it for forty fifty years, right because 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: then the interest, you know, just kills you over the 64 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: long term. But if you're smart. Use those lower monthly payments, 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: add some equity to the home, let it build up 66 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: a little bit, and then get out and buy something, 67 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: say with a lower a thirty year or twenty five year, 68 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: or a better home or better interest rates. In other words, 69 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: use it as a means to an end correct, not 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: as an end in itself. 71 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: Plan on moving out of this house after we do 72 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: the addition we plan, so my goal would be to 73 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: keep the same monthly payment that we're paying right now, 74 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: and if we get into that fifty year, it's literally 75 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: going to cut our payments into a third and just 76 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: pay three times the amount of that. But if you 77 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: get to a point where, oh my god, I can't 78 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: make that payment this month, then guess what. You're not 79 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: in the squeeze where you have a high interest and 80 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: a high monthly payment that you have to pay it, 81 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, like, if you have 82 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: one month that it's like, Okay, I really can't afford 83 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 3: to pay three times the amount of the mortgage payment 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: that I'm paying. You don't have to because your payment 85 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: now is only eighteen hundred dollars. But normally my mentality is, no, 86 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: we're going to pay four thousand dollars a month on 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: this and get this thing paid off faster. But we 88 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: now have a little bit of wiggle room. 89 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: Interesting, oh, interesting, interesting, Tanya. Do you think part of 90 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: it is leave aside now the fifty year mortgage that 91 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: Jerome Powell is just keeping interest rates way too high? 92 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: This is just literally one of the main reasons why 93 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: the housing market is flat on its back and why 94 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: the economy is just not taking off the way it should. 95 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: Wrong that one person has the control of the entire 96 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: United States, and I think he's just doing this despite Trump, 97 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: and it really irritates the crap out of me because 98 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: he's really making everybody squeeze, and he's just going to 99 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: do that until he's out. And I think that's wrong 100 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: that someone can corrupt the system that badly. 101 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: And with you, I'm so with you. I'm so with you, Tanya. 102 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for that call. Look, that's why 103 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: I know it would have been very controversial. But if 104 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: you remember months and months ago, I said, fire him, 105 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: fire him. I think it's outrageous. You're right that the 106 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: chairman of the Federal Reserve, one man, unelected, unelected, remember this, 107 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: and ultimately unaccountable this man has that much power over 108 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: the economy, over the country, over our lives. I mean, look, 109 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: Grace is a real estate agent. Okay, my wonderful wife, 110 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: She says, do you know how many deals are just 111 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: sitting there? Homes are you know? You know, people are 112 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: ready to buy homes, to sell homes, to build homes, 113 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: and they're just looking at the rate. They're looking at 114 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: the interest rate, and there's they're waiting for Powell to move, 115 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: and the guy just won't move. I mean, I know 116 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: he did a small cut, but basically the interest rates 117 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: have to come down much more. It's so obvious, and 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: so one man is clogging up the entire economy, and 119 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: simply because he wants to hurt and obstruct Trump. It's 120 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 2: so obvious. No, I'm with Tanya all the way. T 121 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: one seven, two, six, six, sixty eight, sixty eight. Would 122 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: you get a fifty year mortgage? 123 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: You're locked into Boston's bulldozer. The Kooner Report Weekend edition, 124 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: The Voice of Boston WRKL