1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: All right, Uh, welcome to our number four and good afternoon. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: You're at home with Gary Sullivan. As you look outside, Yes, 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: the snow has reached us, say, said noon or one o'clock. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: They kind of got that spot on. So we'll see 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: how they do they being the weather folks. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, for a change, they got it right. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: How they well, I think they've they've gotten a lot better. 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: I think they've done already. I missed the last one, 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: but a. 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Little bit missed it a little bit. 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, this one looks like it could be a serious snow. 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: It's certainly picking up as we go, so, uh, we'll 13 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: talk about that, and uh, we'll also take your calls 14 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: if you would like to grab a line, I'd love 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: to chat with you. It's eight hundred eight two three 16 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: eight two five five. In the bottom of the hour. 17 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about something I talk about a lot, 18 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about drainage around the house. 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: And we're gonna learn a little bit about that and 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: how important it is. And I know you already know 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: how important it is. It's you know, the number one 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: enemy is uh water. So we're going to talk about 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: underground draining systems. We're gonna talk about six inch seamless gutters. 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Notice I said six inch. Notice I've been moving. I 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: always say when I started doing this show, gutters are 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: like four, and then they were five, and five is 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: pretty standard right now. But we're gonna talk about six 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: inch seamless gutters, and uh we'll chat a little bit 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: about that and learn a little bit as we go. 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: So in the meantime, your calls eight hundred and eighty 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: two three eight two five five, James, welcome. 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: You. 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Yes, fine, hewell you. 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 4: I'm doing well, favorite one, You're my favorite one. I'm 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: having a little bit of Chinese I had left from 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: last night, and I'm wrapping the Christmas package giving. I 37 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: always enjoy listening to you, But I'm home Pennsylvania, Pittsburg. 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: I'm down Jacksonville border visit with a winner. But I'm 39 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: a true American. You have my America saying there's snow 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: on the roofs, but there's one hell of firing a boiler. 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: There you go, And uh, well, we'll let him rap is. 42 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: I'm not sure where that was going, but he's going. 43 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll let him wrap his presence for a while. 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: So if you'd like to grab a line, go ahead 45 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: and do just that. And I was chatting about how 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: important it is to UH work you know, the property 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: around your home with trainage. And we'll have that discussion 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: at the at the bottom of the hour. In the meantime, 49 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: I've got some checklist of things to do. We were talking 50 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: a little bit about grouting, and that brings up another 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: issue too. Yes, he had issues with the grouting in 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: his UH shower area. Do you have grouting issues in 53 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: your home? In other words, maybe cracked grouting, maybe missing grouting, 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: maybe dirty grouting. And I want to talk in terms 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: of what you can do about dirty grouting. And I 56 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: know there's all kinds of cleaners out there, but you know, 57 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: sometimes those stains just are not going to come out. 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: And one of the things I found years ago is 59 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: to the stain is rarely, rarely below the surface of 60 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: that grouting. So if you take a dremal tool with 61 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: one of those pyramidal stones and just run it over 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: the surf of the surface of the ground, you remove 63 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: a microscopic amount of that ground on the surface, but 64 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: you'll get back to it's natural color really quick. And 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: that's if you've tried all the other cleaners to remove 66 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: that stain out of that grouting. But once you have 67 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: done that, that grouting again is well, it's it's less 68 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: waterproof then it was. There was probably a ceiler in there. 69 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: The dirt got in there. It's probably got in from mopping, 70 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: quite honestly. That's their shoes and it stains the ground. 71 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: But if you get rid of that stain mechanically and 72 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: then come back with a grout ceiler, man, I'll tell 73 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: you what it'll look great. Now if that stains heavier, 74 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: and I'll give you this as an option. If that 75 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: stains heavier and you do just kind of go over 76 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: it with a stone, you're not really getting anywhere and 77 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: you don't really taking off, you know, a whole lot 78 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: of grout. But there is grout paints, and if you're 79 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: just looking for regular standard, whiter beige grout, you can 80 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: probably find this grout paint at the local hardware store. 81 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: It looks like I always say liquid shoe polish, comes 82 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: in a bottle, has the little sponge pad at the top, 83 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: and you can just go right down the grout line, 84 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: take a cloth, wipe off the excess on the sides 85 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: of the tie, and man, you're in business. If the 86 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: stain is gone, you can get that same size, same 87 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: type of bottle. You don't have to color it. You 88 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: can just put a clear sealer on it. In fact, 89 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: there's even some ground seilers. And it's really important that 90 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: you do keep it sealed because when we clean floors, 91 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: and it depends on the type of cleaners you're using 92 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: in different things, but using an old mopping bucket or 93 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: something that dirty water penetrates in stains that ground. So 94 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend that, but once you clean it up 95 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: and get it sealed or paint it, you can get 96 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: a lot of longevity out of that. And we'd be 97 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: happy to talk to you also about cleaners. Another thing 98 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: we talked about and I definitely want to get this 99 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: into since we're kind of into that holiday season, and 100 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: that is if you've got granite countertops, I get answer 101 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: the question a lot. I need to seal that, And 102 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, the real true answer is maybe there's not 103 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: a real rule of thumb that you have to. There 104 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: is different granites with different levels of porosity. Some are, 105 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, going to allow water to seep into it minimally, 106 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Others are a little more thirsty, others resistant, So I 107 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: would do a little test, especially this time of year. 108 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: You get colored drinks, you get wine, you get oils. 109 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: You got a lot of activity going on around those 110 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: granite countertops. And if you get it on to the 111 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: granite countertop and it penetrates into the granite, you could 112 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: have a big issue. And you know, you know as 113 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: well as I do. Those granite countertops are not inexpensive, 114 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: so we want to protect them. So take a teaspoon 115 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: and just put a little doll up of water in 116 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: that teaspoon and turn it over, and there's a good 117 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: chance it'll look you'll pour that onto the granite countertop 118 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: and it'll look like a a bubble of water on 119 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: a newly waxed car. And then just watch that for 120 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: about a minute. And if you can see, you can 121 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: usually see it. You can see if some of that 122 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: is soaked into the granite or not. It'll be pretty obvious. 123 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: And in the volume of the water we'll dissipate too, 124 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: not all of it, but some of it. And if 125 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: that's happening, you need to seal the granite. If it's 126 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: not happening, don't worry about it. And there's all kinds 127 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: of sealers out there too. You get into some categories 128 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: where they're sprays. I mean, you're gonna have to clean 129 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: it and then you're gonna have to spray a granite 130 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: sealer on there and rub it in or I've even 131 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: seen some granite sealer WAPs. I've wipes. I've seen granite 132 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: sealer cleaners and wipes in one. But get some protection 133 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: on that if it's needed. If it's needed. And also, 134 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: as we spend more time in the kitchen over the 135 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: next four weeks, then maybe we have for the last 136 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: four months, take a look at your countertops. Maybe you've 137 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: been well kind of look at them and thinking, boy, 138 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: they're really looking dated. But I haven't got five grand 139 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: for new granite countertops. I kind of want to let 140 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: you know once again, I've talked about this a couple 141 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: of times, and every time I do, I have somebody 142 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: stop me and say, you know, I use that product 143 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: and it is so easy. And I've also used that product, Gary, 144 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: and I thought it might last five years, and you 145 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: were right. It lasts much longer than that. And that 146 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: is the dice coatings products for countertops. If you have 147 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: an older fie for mic a countertop, don't paint it. 148 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: That's not really going to work. You know, I'm talking 149 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: about with regular enamel paint. It's gonna chip, it's gonna 150 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: be a mess. If you want to make it look 151 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: like I call a Coreyon that speckled, maybe even a 152 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: little bit like a quartz to a degree. They have 153 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: a Spreadstone countertop kit. It's a primer, it's a finish, 154 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: it's a seiler. You can do it in a weekend 155 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: with an hour here, an hour here, an hour here, 156 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: an hour here, in an hour here, with two or 157 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: three hours of rest in between. If you can paint 158 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: a wall, you can do your countertops. Comes. The roller 159 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: comes with a standing sponge. All works, easy to do. 160 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: They also have one that looks like marble. They have 161 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: one that looks like granted. Go to their website after 162 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: you get through the holidays and you've determined that, yes, 163 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: you're really going to do something about the countertops. You're 164 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: not going to replace him, You're gonna coat him with 165 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: a spreadstone type product, and take a look at the 166 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: videos that they have the application. I feel pretty certain 167 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: you'll feel like you can do it. And that's actually 168 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: how I found this product, and it's probably been thirty 169 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: years ago or twenty five years ago that I first 170 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: found this product in a little paint store and used it, 171 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: and it's very good. Now he's added different products, and 172 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: they too are very good. My sister sister used one. 173 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: I think she used a marble one, and she couldn't 174 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: say enough great things about But take a look at 175 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: the video and maybe that's something you want to do 176 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: and save a little money at the same time. All right, 177 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: her phone numbers eight hundred eight two three eight two 178 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: five five. And the snow is cranking up pretty good 179 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: right now. And we'll continue with your calls right here 180 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: in fifty five krs the talk station. All right, back 181 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: at it we go at home with Gary Salivan, taking 182 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: you through another weekend. And yes, it's time. As I 183 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: look outside, might be time to look for the snowshovel 184 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: if you haven't done that yet. And I wonder how 185 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: busy the hardware stores are right now with snowshovels, salt 186 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: ice melters and all that. Hey, do be careful what 187 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: you're going to use on the sidewalk. I know I 188 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: say that a lot, but done this show and been 189 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: in the business for a long time, and I can 190 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: tell you that the year you have a bad snowy 191 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: winter comes springtime, we'll have more questions regarding concrete repair 192 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: than any other time. And one of the products that 193 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: is probably most commonly used to melt snow is rock salt, 194 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: and right now thirty degrees rock salt will do a 195 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: great job to melt the snow, but I'll tell you 196 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: that residue will lay on that concrete and as that 197 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: snow slowly melts, it is a very salty brine solution 198 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: which is very corrosive, which will penetrate into the concrete 199 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: and which will cause it to spall, which is the 200 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: surface pops off. So I'd try and stay away from that. 201 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: And if the temperature continues to fall, which it's supposed to, 202 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: that salt will become in active and then it'll just 203 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: lay there. And then when the you know, snow melt 204 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: melts just because mother nature or whatever, it's just it 205 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: just does a lot of damage. So use a maynsium chloride, 206 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: probably the safest calcium chloride. Second, and then if you 207 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: use a mixture of salt and calcium chloride, that's better 208 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: than straight salt, but it's still got solved in there, 209 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: so be careful what you use. All right, let's get 210 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: to the phones. Will go to Gary, Gary. Welcome, Hi Gary. 211 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I know you're not in the insurance, but 212 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: you talk about insurance. Say, and I have a problem 213 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: with our landlord. We've been here twenty two years and 214 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 3: thirdbuardy to sell the house. Sensus pay far, we'll probably 215 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: end up buying it. But they told me they have 216 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: to put in the roof on this house, even though 217 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: it's like a three year roof and it doesn't seem bad. 218 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: But their insurance companies telling them that they have to 219 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 3: replace the roof every twenty years. Have you ever heard 220 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: anything like that. 221 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: Um, well, they have to replace the roof every twenty years, or. 222 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: What happens they lose their policy. 223 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: So then the roof won't be warranted at all, is it? 224 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: It's probably thirty. I've looked at it, and I've had 225 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: other people look at it, so called professionals. It's just 226 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: trying to put a roof on. And they come out 227 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: and say, well, it's not really that bad because you 228 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: had a lot of tree coverage, which means the sun's 229 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: not getting to it, and we haven't had any hail damage. 230 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: And if slightly hailed in one area where the tree's 231 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: not covering, but I mean it's it's not or popcork. 232 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: Well, each insurance company can make their own rules. Have 233 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: I heard of that? Exactly? No, not on a thirty 234 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: year roof, like twenty years, you've got to replace her, 235 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: We can't cover it. But as I was saying when 236 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: I was talking with Beth, it's a betting game and 237 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: anybody can put the odds any insurance company. You know, 238 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: there's some insurance companies that are still covering roofs. Okay, 239 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of them that are moving to the 240 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, you know, if it's five years old, you 241 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: know that type of system, you're going to get less 242 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: than full coverage, et cetera, et cetera. Most of them 243 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: are moving in that direction. But there's still insurance companies 244 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: that cover one hundred percent on roofs, and they cover, 245 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, depending on whether the shingle matches. I forget 246 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: what Beth called that she goes after ten years, that 247 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: goes away. So you just got to read the policy. 248 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: And I think the right now the cafeteria plan is 249 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: wide Gary. So no, I haven't heard about that one, 250 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: but I know roofs are in the you know, the 251 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: the eye sight of a lot of a lot of 252 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: insurance companies, and you really got to know what you're buying. 253 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: Right And to me, it's like you're talking about mainstenance. Well, 254 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: in this sense, they want you to maintain the roof 255 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: quicker because it's going to go out in thirty years. 256 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: Let's say it's a third year roof, but they're telling 257 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: them replace it in twenty years. Well, it's good amazance 258 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: is if I replaced the roof very twenty years. Well, 259 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: and we will tell you I had a great roof. 260 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: It was a thirty year composite shingle. I replaced it 261 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: in twenty three years. Nobody told me to. It just 262 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: looked like it needed replacing. 263 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: Well, this really doesn't need to be replaced, but they're 264 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: telling they have to have the loser pelicy. And I 265 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: think it's because we're in the Saint Louis metro area 266 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: and we had a lot of tornado and hail damage 267 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: this last year or two with all the starts coming through. 268 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: Sure, I'm sure that comes into play. Remember, regardless what 269 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: anybody says, Carrie, it's a betting game. Okay, I mean 270 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: you know risk reward and it comes on both both 271 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: parties and checking into I talk about a product or 272 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: we've had calls about a product called roof Max where 273 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: these shingles are not what the shingles that you and 274 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: I grew up with. I mean they're thinner, there's not 275 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: as much asphalt there. I mean they're totally different. 276 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: And you just thirty pound roof or something. 277 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean those days are gone. Okay, So 278 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: the shingles aren't as good and stout as they once were, 279 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: and it loses its granular protection faster. And this roof 280 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: Max has a product where it sprays on and you 281 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: can get an extra five years. And people say, well 282 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: does it work? And I say, yes, it does. Do that. 283 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: Somebody asked me, well, was insurance going to cover that? 284 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I asked. I forget who I asked. 285 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: It might have been the roof Max people had a 286 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: conversation this week and I asked them and they go, well, yes, 287 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: some will, some won't. We've had multiple people that went 288 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: to the roofing company afterwards said this is what I used. 289 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: Do I get an extended warranty? They said yeah, a 290 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: few times we've got that done. So even that's not 291 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: black and white, but it's in the uh, the sightings 292 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: of roofing companies. So whether it needs to replace it 293 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: sounds to me like, you know, their rule might be 294 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: at thirty twenty years. If you don't replace it, we 295 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: don't cover and. 296 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 3: This just could though I assume the roof max advertisement. 297 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: I thought that's the answer. It is true, this roof 298 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: actually to spray on now get probably get another five 299 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 3: years out of it at least. 300 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So one of the things you might check is 301 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: you know whether they will cover it then, right, and 302 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: they may or may not. And the person I was 303 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: talking to say, they may not even give you an 304 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: answer until it's applied. 305 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: So I think the big dramas the landlord lives in 306 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: Florida and they're being dictated by whoever they have, and 307 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 3: we're all the way up here in the Saint Louis area. Sure, 308 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: and it's just a matter of conversation with somebody. Yeah, 309 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: but they're being dictated too, and I feel like they 310 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: have to and everybody listened. The roof says it's actually 311 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: pretty good shape because it's introtective by the trees, you know, 312 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: as far as heat and. 313 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: Of course, we all know the amount of storm damages 314 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: we've had all across the country, and you know, all 315 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: that factors in too. You know, if I'm an insurance company, 316 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm factoring that in. Also look back over twenty years 317 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: of some roofers that maybe weren't the most scrupulous roofers 318 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: in the world. And I've seen it happen with my 319 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: own eyes where maybe that roof had hailed damage, but 320 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why the inspector was up there with 321 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: a with a ballpeen hammer, you know, and that happened. 322 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: I've seen it happen, So you know, the playing field, 323 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: I guess, and I don't know what to think about it. 324 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: I guess the way I think about it is you're 325 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: buying insurance, and that's the game they're playing right now, 326 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: So you know, shop for your insurance if that's a 327 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: big concern, or you know, or you play the game 328 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean. 329 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 5: Games. 330 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: Though. 331 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: My trauma is I want to buy the house now, 332 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 3: and they're down there and they just the clear blue 333 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: got a roof out here who said, you know, we'll 334 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: be out there for ten thousand dollars and replace it, 335 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: And I think, what do you know about these people? 336 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 3: They don't know nothing about the people they were going 337 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: to come out. Last week was really the middle of winter. 338 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: I don't know how they're going. 339 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 5: To ever do a roof here. 340 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: The most prom but it comes spring though. I got 341 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: to call you about electric lawn wars. I know you 342 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: wanted to That's what I call it, and I never 343 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 3: could get to it. Yep and yep, and I have 344 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: to call you on the spring. 345 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: Well, they're great, great, sounds good. Anyway, that sounds good, Gary, 346 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: Thank you much for the call. I appreciate it. All right, 347 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: Well continue you're at home with Gary Salvan right here 348 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: on fifty five KRC, the talk station. All Right, welcome 349 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: aboard at Home with Gary Sullivan. It's uh, kind of 350 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: slowed up just a little bit, not much, it's anyway, 351 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: it's snowing. Hooray, hooray. Looks like Christmas. 352 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: What fun. 353 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly. 354 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: That's called about the snow man. 355 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: Gary. Yeah. I think one thing everybody knows, especially listeners 356 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: to this show, and I've used this phrase probably for 357 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: the last forty years, is your number one enemy in 358 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: your home is water, water, water, water. And we talk 359 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: about a weekend and week out, and we're still talking 360 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: about it, because that's how important it is. The healthy 361 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: your home is really dependent on how well you control 362 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: the water on around your home or even on your home. 363 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: And James Barrett is joining us. He is with the 364 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: Anderson Gutter Company and he's going to help us out. James, 365 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: welcome that home with Gary Salvan. How you doing, I'm 366 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: doing wonderful. I guess you see it. You see it 367 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: every day, don't you, James. I mean, water does tremendous 368 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: damage around our homes. 369 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, exterior wise, water, especially this time of year, can 370 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 5: be a monster if just one thing is wrong. 371 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, you know I started preaching, I guess the 372 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: first of October, the leaves are gonna fall, the leaves 373 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: have fallen, got to get those gutters cleaned out, and 374 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: I almost feel it becomes redundant. Then I'll go to 375 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: my daughter's house and I'll be looking out the upstairs 376 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: wind and the gutters are filled with stuff. So yeah, 377 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: how I mean that is so that's vitally important. And 378 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: when we had the insurance broke around, we were talking 379 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: about how maintenance is really coming into play in insurance claims, 380 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: Like stuff happens. It's one thing if your house gets 381 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: struck by lightning. It's another thing that you never cleaned 382 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: out your gutters and the softs are rotting, and you 383 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: get animals in the attic, or the water's spilling on 384 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: the foundation and the basement's leaking. And I'm sure you 385 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: run into this issue too. Is gutter sizes. I mean, 386 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: I've been in this industry for my whole life, and 387 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: gutter sizes have changed. And I know you're doing six 388 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: inch seamless gutters. 389 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 5: Now, yeah, we do six in seamless gutters. Then on site, 390 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 5: I would say that maintenance is of course, you should 391 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 5: probably do it once or twice a year at minimum, 392 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: just to make sure it especially if you don't have 393 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 5: a good guard up there. But size makes a huge 394 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 5: difference between just five which your standard, and six inch gutters. 395 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 5: You're talking about a forty percent increase in waterflow between 396 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 5: just that one inch size. 397 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: Different James in your business Anderson Gutter Company, do they 398 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: call you because the gutters are in a state of disrepair, 399 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: they're falling off the house, or gee, these gutters I 400 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: have just aren't getting the job done anymore. 401 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 5: You know, we get a mix of boats. We get 402 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 5: some that are past the point where they should have 403 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 5: called us, of course, But we get a lot of 404 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 5: homeowners that are a little knowledgeable and know that it's 405 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 5: you know, a pretty much a four point system between 406 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 5: your underground drainage, your downspouts, your gutters, and your ventilation, 407 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 5: and they just want it done right, and so they 408 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 5: give us a call to make sure that all those 409 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 5: are functioning properly so that don't have one hidden monster 410 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 5: out of those four that causes it, like the giant 411 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 5: ice spickles you see. 412 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: Right right, Hey, let's educate people about gutters in general too. 413 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: I know you do seamless and tell everybody why seamless 414 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: is important. 415 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: Well, seamless gutters are you know, continuous across the house, 416 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 5: far less lead points for water to be able to 417 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 5: escape that gutter system, less fasteners to hold it on 418 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 5: it's bean as one unit and then hung together, and 419 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 5: you know it allows a continuous flow of water to 420 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 5: be able to be pitched properly into those down spouts. 421 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what is the pitch? Is it quarter inch 422 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: ten feet? Or am I wrong? 423 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 5: Yeah? It's right about that. I mean some of you 424 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 5: have to start a little bit higher or lower on 425 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 5: a facial board, but yeah, about a quarter inch per 426 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 5: ten feet. 427 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: Okay, and how about the gauge of the these are aluminum? 428 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: I assume yeah. 429 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 5: Aluminum twenty four gage aluminum bent. You know, we have 430 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 5: a gutter machine that we come out with a truck 431 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 5: to bend on site for your home, made from sheets 432 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: of gutter aluminum on site and then equipped with three 433 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 5: by four down spouts which are larger than the two 434 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 5: by three that you have on your home. Typically. 435 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about my problem in a minute. 436 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Everybody's got a problem with gutters. Man. What type of 437 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: brackets do you use? 438 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 5: So we use hidden hangers that so that they don't 439 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 5: you don't see them kind of popped up. We don't 440 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 5: use gutter spikes that run through the gutter that you 441 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: would see in an older gutter. We use hidden hangers 442 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 5: that fasten to the facier board to hang the gutters. 443 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 5: We also now have a really nice product that we 444 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 5: use which when we install a new six inch gutter, 445 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 5: if they get a treck scutter guard, it's a continuous 446 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 5: hanger system. So the guard goes on first, making it 447 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 5: very sturdy, secure system so that no hangers on that sure. 448 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: Nice. So you talked about the points in the gutter. 449 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: When you talked about a larger down spout, is the 450 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: larger down spout there because the gutter's bigger and there's 451 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: more flow. 452 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: Exactly. Making a bigger gutter with the same sized down spouts, 453 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 5: of course, would do us no good. But allowing more 454 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 5: water to off the roof and sit in your gutter, 455 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 5: we need the larger down spout to be able to 456 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 5: expel the volume of water that you're going to get 457 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 5: with a six inch gutter, and it makes a huge difference, 458 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 5: like I said, forty increase on the amount of volume 459 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 5: you can get off the roof. 460 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: So when we get down to the bottom, this is 461 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: where my problem is. It can be resolved. But it's 462 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: an issue right now. It's a minute issue which will 463 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: become a bigger issue. We all know that, and that 464 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: is with the soil. I guess it's the reason for 465 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: it. It's the soil. It's very clay in our area. We 466 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: have a very wet spring, we have a drought, and 467 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: then we have a wet winter, and we got all 468 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: this movement and sometimes that downspout doesn't perfectly line up 469 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: with a pipe that's going under the ground. You see 470 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: that often, Yeah, we do see that. 471 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 5: We use what's called an underground cap, but we call 472 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 5: the you know underground the hidden Monster because people just 473 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 5: don't know what's under there. The most ignored part of 474 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 5: the underground drainage is they don't know where it goes, 475 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 5: or if it's clear, if it's collapsed. 476 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: Right. 477 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 5: We when we install new gutters, we do use an 478 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 5: underground cap to completely connect those so there shouldn't be 479 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 5: a gap between them. But we also have a four 480 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 5: K camera that we use to put down up to 481 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty feet to map out your underground line, 482 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 5: your drain lines and make sure everything's going where it 483 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 5: needs to be and it's not broken. And we sell 484 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 5: that just as a service, so if a homeowner every 485 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 5: wants it mapped out, they can get that too. 486 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Sure, well, that's that's good. How long is a pipe 487 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: like that that goes underground usually last? And is it 488 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: usually the corrugated or is it the PVC. 489 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: Well, we would hope it's not corrugated, but sometimes they are. 490 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 5: Typically it's pvceds like a schedule thirty five pipe is 491 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 5: what we use. Sometimes it's a little bit less. So 492 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 5: when it comes to auguring of course you wouldn't be 493 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 5: able to do it with a with a corrugated pipe, 494 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 5: but it's got a nice PDC pipe. You can get 495 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 5: it augured out if there's a clog. I would always 496 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: recommend to make sure you're using at least you know, 497 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 5: Schedule forty, Schedule thirty five PBC pipe your underground drain lines. 498 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately my underground drain line off the down spout 499 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: is corrugated. And then I also have an underground French 500 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: and I think it's Schedule forty and it's twenty five 501 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: years old. So yeah, at what point do you start panicking? James? 502 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 5: So I would recommend to have it canned of course, 503 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 5: going to French train, make sure everything's looking good. As 504 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 5: long as you're TVC underground, you might be okay above ground. 505 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 5: The the core gated is always easy to change. It's 506 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 5: a not a hard change at all. But I would 507 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 5: start there. Always start to cam, have somebody, you know, 508 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: you can send an inspector and someone to inspect it out, 509 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 5: but they're going to be staring at your ground, right 510 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 5: there's not a lot that they can tell with the camera. 511 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 5: They can run those diagram make sure they'll know exactly 512 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 5: where it's broke or clogged, be able to help you 513 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 5: fix one spot instead of telling you need everything replaced. 514 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what I tell people all 515 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: the time with especially when I'm talking about chimneys, and 516 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they tell you need a new liner, 517 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: and that's thousand dollars? Did they show you pictures? They 518 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: and most most good quality companies if there's a service, 519 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: even you know furnace tune ups. Now you know I 520 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: had an issue with one and they can show you 521 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: where the problems are now and no different than what 522 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: you're talking about with the underground. And I'll be honest 523 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: with you if I was you know, somebody that had 524 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: an issue, and we'll say, with an underground drain, why 525 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't you find somebody with a camera spar I'm happy 526 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: to hear that you folks do that because it's it's 527 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: critically important. I mean, you're right, a lot of people 528 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: have no idea where that's taking that water. They don't 529 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: know whether it's going backwards or forward. 530 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, we had one recently that had an issue and 531 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 5: they had a very long front yard going and it 532 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 5: went all the way out to the curb and they 533 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 5: had gotten really large quote from a couple of companies 534 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 5: that came out to replace it. All the way out 535 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 5: to the curb, and we were in the camera and 536 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 5: they had a clog that was about five feet from 537 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: the curb that you could we could augur from the 538 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 5: opposite side, you know, coming from the curb in and 539 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 5: within ten minutes our guy had them fixed up. And 540 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 5: they only paid the price of the can because it 541 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 5: included that service of checking for clogs and in auger 542 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 5: if needed. So it saved her probably close to you know, 543 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 5: fifteen or twenty thousand dollars just to know the knowledge. 544 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: All right, that's a that's that's that's a huge savings. 545 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's yeah. And again going back to the 546 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: original phrase when I started, you know, water is your 547 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: number one enemy, and that's so true, and it's critically 548 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: important really that we control all of that water because 549 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many people I touch with 550 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: leaky basements. I tell them, a leaky basement has what 551 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: I call the killer g's and it's grading ground water 552 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: and gutters. And yes, you know, all of a sudden, 553 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: you talk about having abasement waterproof because you haven't maintained 554 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: the water control on the outside of your house. You 555 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: can be talking twenty thirty dollars. 556 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I would always recommend a customers start from 557 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 5: you know, the underground system up of course, but it 558 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 5: leads all the way to your ventilation. You know of 559 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 5: your home can factor into if you're going to have 560 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 5: these problems or not. But uh, the water from the 561 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 5: roof as far away from the house as you can. 562 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 5: You can, of course waterproof your your basement, but you 563 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 5: don't even want the water to be. 564 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: There to begin with, right, right, that's say far away 565 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 3: from the home as you can well. 566 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: Plus plus not only that, if you have a lot 567 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: of water that's running, maybe it's not running into your basement, 568 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: but the water vapors getting into your basement, and then 569 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: you can have high humidity. And if you have high humidity, 570 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: you can have mold. So it kind of goes on 571 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: and on and on. So if folks are how does 572 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: how do you guys work at Anderson Gutter Company. They're 573 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: listening to conversation right now, and I'm not trying to 574 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: worry people. I'm trying to bring in experts where we 575 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: can say this might be something you want to inspect. 576 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: How does this work? I call you, you give estimates? Do 577 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: you educate when you're there? Tell me the whole process. 578 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, we get free estimates. I mean, of course, if 579 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 5: you know you want gutters and it's just time to 580 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 5: get new gutters, and you do want to get that 581 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 5: six head seamless gutter with three by four downspouts and 582 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 5: maybe some new guards, you can just call us and 583 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 5: we'll take care of it. If you're having a ventilation issue, 584 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 5: or you're just seeing giant icicles, or your gutters are overflowing, 585 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 5: you can call us and we'll set you up for 586 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 5: an inspection or a gutter cleaning. At that time, we 587 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 5: take photos. I could see my guys photos while they're 588 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 5: on site to be able to diagnose and get you 589 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 5: an estimate for whatever you may need. But we'll come out. 590 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 5: We'll do a full inspection of not only the gutters, 591 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 5: but the underground drainage, your ventilation, and your downspouts and 592 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 5: gutter line, just to make sure that we can give 593 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 5: you the proper answers and the proper estimate, because we 594 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 5: want you to not call us back for a separate first. 595 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 5: We could have missed when we were there. 596 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: I know gutters, I said this already, but gutters have 597 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: changed a lot. What is the lifespan of gutters? I've 598 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: never really given that any. 599 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 5: Thought, So we typically, I mean, we give a five 600 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 5: year labor warranty, but I would say twenty five years, 601 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 5: twenty five to thirty years you should get out of 602 00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 5: a really good gutter system. And of course that's like 603 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 5: when you should change it. A lot of people go 604 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 5: way past that line and they would probably be just fine. 605 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 5: But in good concerence, I'd say probably twenty five years 606 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 5: thirty years would be the good lifespan of a set 607 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 5: of gutters. By then we're gonna have, you know, seven 608 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 5: inch gutters. 609 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: Sure, I hear, James. How do they get a hold 610 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: of the Anderson Gutter Company? 611 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 5: So you could call us at five one three six 612 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 5: six seven nine zero zero zero or Anderson Gutter Company 613 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 5: dot com. 614 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: Very good in the website. 615 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 5: Andersony Gutter Company dot com. 616 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: That is the website. Okay, gotcha. Hey, it's been a pleasure. 617 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm sure you'll get some gutter calls, 618 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: especially if it keeps snowing. 619 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 5: YEP, I appreciate it. If you need anything else. 620 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: Let me know, all right, we'll do James, thank you. 621 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a little break kind of come 622 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: back and wrap up a snowy saturday. It looks like 623 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: it has slowed down a little bit where I I 624 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: met and covered the sidewalks. Streets look fine so far. 625 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: So uh we'll find out real fast here when one 626 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: o'clock gets here. All right, we'll continue at home with 627 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: Gary Salvan right here on fifty five k SE Detox station. 628 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: All right. Uh back at it, of course. Uh. The 629 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: holidays and Christmas and New Year's right around the corner, 630 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: and uh, you might be looking at gift ideas. It's 631 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: been a long time since I really talked about there's 632 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: a lot of really really, if you get into power 633 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: tools and things, Uh, there's so many. I was even 634 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: telling a group of people the other day, if you 635 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: there's some really innovative tools out there that are now 636 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: battery operated. I mean, you know you gotta you gotta 637 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: have your toys, I mean tools. Sorry, Uh, that's just 638 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: a rule, right, every project requires a new toy I 639 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: mean tool. But so check those out. Really, there's a 640 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: lot of multipurpose tools out and the price on power 641 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: tools that are battery operate. I think have gotten a 642 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: lot less expensive. So maybe you put off and maybe 643 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: you haven't been doing much work around houses or whatever, 644 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: and you think you always wanted us such and such. 645 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: You might put that on your gift list. They're more affordable. 646 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: Another thing is, you know, we used to talk a 647 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: lot about what goes in a regular you know, if 648 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: you're going to give a new homeowner a toolbox, and 649 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: I knew we probably don't need to repeat that unless 650 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: somebody wants to know exactly what my opinion is. But 651 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, your basic tools can certainly go in there. 652 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: But here's here's one. Here's one I like, and I 653 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: used to use it all the time. If most homeowners young, 654 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: medium and older will tackle projects around the house, especially painting, 655 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: and I've said that many many times. And one of 656 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: the things that used to and still drives me crazy 657 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: is when a homeowner is going to tackle a painting 658 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: job and plastic drop cloths. Okay, that's what drives me crazy. 659 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: Plastic drop cloths. I know you can get them for 660 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: a buck two bucks. They're as thin as what the 661 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: old dry cleaning bags are. They're dangerous. You trip over them, 662 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: they slide on carpet. They're they're they're not durable, and 663 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: you will throw them away. Get somebody as a gift, 664 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: a good especially if they're young too, where they're gonna, 665 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, paint a lot of rooms through the course 666 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: of their life. Get them a good canvas drop cloth. 667 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: Like a painter uses canvas on both signs interlayer of 668 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: plastic which never comes into play. It's it's like a 669 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: it's like the thickness of a bedspread. If you will. 670 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: It's manageable and you can use it your lifetime. And 671 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: I literally I've done a lot of painting over the 672 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: years and I've literally used or had a canvas uh 673 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: uh drop cloth. I bet forty years. Got every color 674 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: of paint you can imagine on that drop cloth. But 675 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: it served me well. And if it wasn't for splattered paint, 676 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: it'd be brand new. And I'm serious about that. So 677 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: that's a good gift idea. Got somebody that does some 678 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: painting or just got a home, I would recommend that. 679 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: Danny Boy, thank you very much. It was a fun 680 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: and busy day. Don't forget to check out the podcast. 681 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: We'll have two each hour, plus our special guests today 682 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: that's on the iHeart app. It's at Home with Gary Sullivan. 683 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: If you miss the one on insurance, that's a good one. 684 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: Take a listen and then look at your policy. All right, 685 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: good Lord willing, Danny and I will both be back 686 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: tomorrow for more At Home with Gary Sullivan.