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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show.

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Speaker 2: I want your angst calls on the fifteens expanded just

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Speaker 2: for that reason to three point fifteen, four fifteen.

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Speaker 1: And today now at five point fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I know you're mad. I don't blame you if you're

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Speaker 2: not your stupid, but you should be even more angry.

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Speaker 2: I see people blaming the refs. I see people DK

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have been suspended.

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Speaker 1: Dah Dad, blue haired guy Dad dad damn.

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Speaker 2: And all the suck up stooges are spinning it just

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Speaker 2: like you knew they would. You gotta win one game,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter which one. Just beat the Ravens, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 2: You lost to Cleveland, to Cleveland who did zero offensively

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Speaker 2: after getting ahead by ten zip and you were er

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Speaker 2: three on fourth down and over two in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, Rogers was just awful. He was

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Speaker 2: too busy complaining to lead. All he did was bitch

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Speaker 2: at the coaches and bitch at the refs and sulk.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, there he is.

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Speaker 2: There's the Aaron Rodgers I always figured was gonna show up.

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Speaker 2: It just took him a while. Yesterday was New York Jets.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: He was just wearing a Steeler uniform.

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Speaker 2: His throws were all over the place, so often way

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Speaker 2: off target, and he acted like a bitch. But still,

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Speaker 2: where's the guts with the Steelers? It's not only gutless

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Speaker 2: bunch who punks out when it gets slapped.

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Speaker 1: In the mouth. Shador was awful, but Rogers was worse.

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Speaker 1: Think about that.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people have been saying that the Steelers

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Speaker 2: could make some noise in the playoffs. Obviously that was

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Speaker 2: said before yesterday. I even said that. I said it

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Speaker 2: before yesterday. But how could you trust them? After yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Baltimore got a reprieve. I watched that game. Baltimore physically

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Speaker 2: battered Green Bay on Saturday. The Steelers are reeling. Baltimore

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Speaker 2: smells blood. Derrick Henry had two hundred and sixteen yards

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Speaker 2: and four touchdowns on thirty six carries.

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Speaker 1: They should have just done the direct snap right to them.

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Speaker 2: All the momentum will be on Baltimore's side, and a

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Speaker 2: game like yesterday shows that all that talk about a

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Speaker 2: Tomlin team this and a Tomlin team that it's a

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Speaker 2: bunch of crap and always has been. Mike Tomlin is

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Speaker 2: an absolute fraud. The Steelers only hope on Sunday night

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Speaker 2: might be so. Is John Harbaugh, Baltimore's coach absolute fraud?

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Speaker 1: This is just insane. If you're not.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely enraged after yesterday, I'd like to know why the

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Speaker 2: hell not. It's clobber in time today on the Mark

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Speaker 2: Man Show. Like I said, we're expanding calls on the fifteens,

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Speaker 2: three fifteen, four fifteen, and now five point fifteen to

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Speaker 2: accommodate your angst. And I think I can sum up

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Speaker 2: your angst by saying F the Steelers. That sums up

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Speaker 2: my angst anyway, How can you not just say F

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Speaker 2: the Steelers? And I will say, this game against the

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Speaker 2: Baltimorns is gonna be fun. It might not have a

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Speaker 2: happy ending like Robert crafted a massage parlor, but it

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Speaker 2: will be intense. Somebody in Pittsburg say somethingbody getting fired up.

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Speaker 2: Losing yesterday is a file up on so many levels.

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Speaker 2: If you would have won, you would have clinched, and

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Speaker 2: you could have given the old guys a bye week

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Speaker 2: Rogers and cam and Ramsey, et cetera. And instead you

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Speaker 2: now put him into a five car pile up against Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: That stew or die.

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Speaker 2: And even if you win, it gonna take its toll.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday was just a stink sandwich.

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Speaker 2: You lost to Cleveland, to Cleveland for the four straight

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Speaker 2: time at Cleveland. Remember when Ben used to dominate a

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Remember when Ben was the winningest quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: history of bron Stadium, even though he only played there

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Speaker 2: twice a year.

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Speaker 1: Remember that.

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Speaker 2: Well, to quote the Kinks and Van Halen, won't you

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Speaker 2: tell me where have all the good times gone? We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to that Garrett narrative that the Steelers paid

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Speaker 2: under attention to him to try to protect watch sack record.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's true. I'll get into depth on

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Speaker 2: that later. I would love for it to be true.

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Speaker 2: I would love for the evidence thereof to be overwhelming,

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Speaker 2: But I just don't think it's true. The one weird thing,

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Speaker 2: the one disclaimer, is that Gainwell was minimized in the

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Speaker 2: passing game yesterday after he ran a muck in the

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Speaker 2: passing game at Detroit. And that's because he was chipping

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Speaker 2: Garrett all the time. Now, was that done to protect

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Speaker 2: watch record or was it just done because Garrett's a

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Speaker 2: bad sum bitch and he might break Rogers in half.

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably the latter. But again, you know

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Speaker 2: why you can believe that narrative because the Steelers are

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Speaker 2: so petty Tom petty.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with Tom. He got fired then hired

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Speaker 1: back again one five nine X. It's the Mark pre

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Speaker 1: game show on DX.

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Speaker 2: You know this game against Baltimore Sunday night, a twenty kickoff.

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Speaker 1: I hate the late games. I might drink from that one.

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Speaker 2: Come join me at the All Star Sports Bar and

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Speaker 2: grill at Soft Point to watch what I'm calling Steelers

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Speaker 2: Altamonts this game against Baltimore. Lamar Jackson has been banged up.

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Speaker 2: They say there's a fifty to fifty chance to him playing,

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Speaker 2: which means he probably won't. But with Snoop Puntley at quarterback,

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Speaker 2: the Ravens aren't worried about making sure Labar gets the spotlight,

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Speaker 2: making sure he always looks like an MVP. They make

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Speaker 2: sure Derrick Henry gets the ball. All due respect to

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Speaker 2: Lamar in a big game, Henry gotta be their number

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Speaker 2: one weapon even if Lamar were one hundred percent. Not

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Speaker 2: using him enough in certain games has cost them the

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Speaker 2: odd game this season. Henry barely played in the second

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Speaker 2: half last week when Baltimore blew that lead to New England.

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Speaker 2: But without Lamar again, you don't got to worry about

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Speaker 2: making him look good, making him look like the MVP.

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely picking the Ravens to win on Sunday. How

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Speaker 2: could you not practice it with me?

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Speaker 1: People? Fire Tom when fire Tom win?

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Speaker 2: Heck, they might not just boo renegade, they might hang

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Speaker 2: sticks in effigy joining me now. Got fired last week,

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Speaker 2: got rehired at lower pay this week. He is Tommy

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Speaker 2: Radio Tom. What do you make of the Ravens offense

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Speaker 2: if Lamar don't play? I hesitate to say it's better.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of tap dancing around that phraseology. But I

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Speaker 2: think their best bet is especially in this game at

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Speaker 2: Akrosher in December, with everything to play for, I think

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Speaker 2: given Henry the ball thirty times is their best bet

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Speaker 2: now if they get behind, I don't know if Snoop's

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Speaker 2: gonna catch true.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they have to worry about getting

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Speaker 3: behind though too much against this Steelers offense, Like Steelers

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Speaker 3: office is gonna race out in this game to a

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Speaker 3: seventeen to nothing lead over them where they'd have to

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Speaker 3: abandon the run completely. If it's over Lamar Jackson. That's

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent. No, their offense isn't better with Snoop Huntley.

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna be one hundred percent though. And one

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Speaker 3: thing that I saw Snoop do in that game on

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Speaker 3: Saturday night that just reminded me of Lamar when he's

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Speaker 3: at full strength. He took off for those quarterback draws

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Speaker 3: right up the middle mark and was just darting into

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Speaker 3: the Packers secondary for nice fifteen twenty yard gains. He

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Speaker 3: ended up with sixty yards rushing on his own right.

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Speaker 3: That element of the Ravens offense is so key. Lamar

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Speaker 3: doesn't better than anybody. He's not been able to being hurt,

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Speaker 3: so I would go with Snoop if he can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: That's why Snoop's a great backup for them, because you

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Speaker 2: can play exactly the same style, could execute exactly the

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Speaker 2: same game plan.

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Speaker 1: Tom.

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Speaker 2: How on earth did the Steelers screw that up yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Because I was at the Schulas, Tavern and Clarridge, and

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Speaker 2: up until the fourth down pass the MBS fell complete,

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Speaker 2: I had every belief the Steelers would win it. To

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Speaker 2: excuse me, tie it and then win it in overtime

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Speaker 2: just because the Brons is the.

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Speaker 3: Bronx, So did I Every next drive the Steelers got

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Speaker 3: in the second half felt like, Okay, this is gonna

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Speaker 3: be it now, right, They're gonna wake up like you said,

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Speaker 3: all the way down to that very last drive when

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Speaker 3: they actually did kind of wake up and move the

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Speaker 3: ball down the field, and then they just struck out.

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Speaker 3: Going to MBS, how they lost it, I really don't know.

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Speaker 3: You're right to blame Rogers first and foremost because he

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Speaker 3: was just tear on the field.

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Speaker 1: He's most at fault of those who were playing in

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tomlin sucks and DK's an idiot, but guys

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Speaker 2: on the field that losses on Rogers by far more

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Speaker 1: And then I just I look at the weighty downs.

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Speaker 3: Right, they were three for fifteen on third down conversions

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Speaker 3: And I hear people saying, oh, well, you know, the

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Speaker 3: Steelers did win the turnover battle on this one. They

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Speaker 3: did four turnovers. No, they went over three on fourth

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Speaker 3: turned the ball over four times themselves.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, Denver turnovers that Matt Williamson's big line. I'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to look for the for the hidden turnovers,

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Speaker 2: and the Steelers made those. Now, what about the narrative

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Speaker 2: after the game that the Steelers paid too much attention

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Speaker 2: to Garrett not getting that sacked to break Watts record.

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Speaker 2: Romo said it during the game, Garrett said it after

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Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the game plan when you go against

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Speaker 3: the Browns is to take out Garrett by any means necessary.

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Speaker 1: Don't let him wreck the game, regardless of what record

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Speaker 1: he's trying.

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Speaker 3: Like, if he had like fifteen sacks going into this game,

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Speaker 3: that would be the exact same thing they would do.

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Speaker 3: I am critical with the way they use Gainwell though

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Speaker 3: Gainwell is your best receiver, especially with DK Metcalf out.

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Speaker 3: He should have been playing. He should have been lining

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Speaker 3: up in the slots sometimes. You know, That's what I started.

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Speaker 2: Looking for in the second half, because you know, the

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Speaker 2: the allegations that they were trying to protect the record

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Speaker 2: had already been made by Romo and certainly by the

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Speaker 2: crew on Twitter at that point. And I did notice

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Speaker 2: in the second half gain Well chipping an in ordered.

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Speaker 1: Amount of time.

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Speaker 3: That's the only thing that you kind of point to that.

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Speaker 3: But I also think that wasn't because of the record

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Speaker 3: with you know, protecting WATS record. I think that was

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Speaker 3: more misguided coaching saying we got to protect Rogers from

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Speaker 3: Garrett from him wrecking the game.

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Speaker 1: Let's use Gainwell to chip him there. Rogers was awful.

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Speaker 1: What happened with him?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, like is he just fading getting you know,

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Speaker 3: he had a nice little setted.

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Speaker 1: He got frustrated early.

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Speaker 2: He was bitching at the coaches, like like the coaches

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Speaker 2: were trying to get a play in and I think

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Speaker 2: he said to the sideline, let me do this, and

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Speaker 2: he was bitching at the refs.

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Speaker 1: He just forgot the lead.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't the leader that the Steelers need him to

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Speaker 2: be in and are accustomed to him being at this point.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that his bummy group of receivers, which

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Speaker 3: he had a hand in building right now with feeling

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Speaker 3: and MVS, like he was just getting frustrated with.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk a lot about about how that's his fault,

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Speaker 2: because I mean, when when MVS is getting nine targets

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Speaker 2: and Scottie Miller's getting seven and Roman Wilson is on

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is mouth time, right, you've got

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Speaker 3: too much. That's just what his game is. He always

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Speaker 2: Well, what where he's lucked at is there aren't a

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Speaker 3: And I'm just happy that they came out like they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I realized that as soon as they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still question where they're going all those He

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Speaker 1: But but it's a tall order with this group.

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Speaker 3: You can kind of see where this is going though.

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that, Well, I hope it's

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Speaker 3: I thought there was a time where you could talk

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Speaker 1: I just don't think he's very good. Are the parents

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Speaker 2: I think Nkoma closing's gonna wind up being a deal breaker.

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Speaker 2: What five nine the X Tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Nights it's the Pens against the Hurricanes. Game time is seven.

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Speaker 3: X West ruler Here, stay up to date with everything

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Speaker 3: happening in Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Join me and Matt Williamson for the drop double m

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Speaker 2: on the X. This game against Baltimore Saturday night. All

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Speaker 2: right for fighting, all right for not winning the division

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Speaker 2: as well? Like I said, Lamar Jackson been banged up,

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Speaker 2: but with snoopid quarterback, and he can run the quarterback

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Speaker 2: same game plan. Derreck Henry gonna get it thirty thirty

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Speaker 2: Green Bay game. They were tired of tackling him. Now

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Speaker 2: they had nothing to play for. That was a big

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Speaker 2: tackling him. We mentioned the QB thing with the Steelers

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Speaker 2: in Cleveland. The Steelers losing consecutive games in Cleveland over

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Speaker 2: the last four years too, were set dtr Jamis and

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's bad. This is worse.

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Speaker 2: Since twenty twenty, the Steelers are Z four and one

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Speaker 2: against teams that are eight games under five hundred or

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Speaker 2: if he's not, if his coaching in preparation, If that's

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Speaker 2: tell me why they come out flat, flatter than a

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Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen. We welcome Tommy Radio.

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Speaker 2: Now back to the microphone, Tom, Who do you like

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Speaker 2: in this game on Saturday?

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Speaker 1: All the marbles?

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Speaker 3: The Sunday game? You mean the Steelers in the Ravens. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I like the Ravens to win this one, I think, I.

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Speaker 2: Say Saturday, Yeah, get the letout Saturday Friday and Saturday

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Speaker 3: And my heart skipped a little bit there because I

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Speaker 1: I wasn't because I want to go see get the letout.

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Speaker 2: Actually, for my scheduling, it would have been ideal if

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Speaker 1: At one plack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is fun, Like, tell me the same fun. No,

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Speaker 3: it's it's what you sign up for. If you're a

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Speaker 3: I think that they're going to hand the ball to

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Speaker 3: Henry Dare I say forty.

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Speaker 1: Times if they have to win this game. I know

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Speaker 2: I don't think Lamar's gonna play back injury. They're saying

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Speaker 3: And even if Lamar does play, I think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: Now, we agree that the Steelers lost to Cleveland because

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Speaker 3: That was a big factor. Correct, Yes, do we agree

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Speaker 3: that it was hilarious. It is pretty funny how it

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Speaker 2: Now there's a report from Jay Glazer that the racial

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Speaker 2: I saw that when Seattle was there, but Glaser would

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Speaker 2: no matter what and that's why they gave DK two

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Speaker 1: But now it might turn out to do just that.

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Speaker 3: Do you think some of Steeler fans were doing that

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they did that to DK.

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Speaker 3: The league's out to get us because they thought they

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Speaker 2: No, if they blow the division by losing the last

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Speaker 2: two DK getting suspended for two games is the most

441
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Speaker 2: tangible reason it will have happened, you know, because Rogers sucks,

442
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 2: well he did against Cleveland.

443
00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll suck again.

444
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: Maybe Tom was an idiot, but he's an idiot every game.

445
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 2: Sometimes they overcome it, sometimes they don't. And I just

446
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: wonder when people are gonna start to talk like I

447
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 2: do about Tom when and.

448
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: If it seems unreasonable me calling him an idiot? Is

449
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: that what I said? Idiot? Yeah, he said idiot.

450
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 2: I apologize. I meant to say moron. The evidence at

451
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 2: hand dictates one hundred percent right. They have won a

452
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 2: playoff game in four of his nineteen seasons, and this

453
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Speaker 2: will be the ninth straight year when they don't.

454
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Speaker 1: If they don't, I mean, what the frig What the

455
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 1: friggin frig.

456
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Speaker 3: That's all comes down to is winning in the postseason

457
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 3: when we're talking about any sport. And you know what

458
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 3: it's like, Tom, I hate young people. How old are

459
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 3: you I'm thirty one.

460
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right on the cutoff point.

461
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 2: Because some young people are good, though, Mark, you know

462
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: what I mean, Because young people they just proclaim their

463
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 2: team to be good regardless of result. Regard you know,

464
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: it depends on who they have in fantasy, It depends

465
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: on whose jersey and number they wear, It depends on

466
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 2: who they bet on. The biggest thing is samples the

467
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 2: pirates where they stink the high heaven and there's X

468
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 2: amount of nimrods out there. No, they're good, Shut up,

469
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 2: fat ass, they're good. Record don't matter, And it's the

470
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: same to some degree with the Steelers. It's like with DK,

471
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: A lot of people still won't admit that he was

472
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: one thousand percent in the wrong.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah. If to me, to be a fan of a team,

474
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: you have to have a healthy hatred of that team

475
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: when they're doing things that you don't agree with. No

476
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: hat Pirates. I have a healthy hatred for the Pirates.

477
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Speaker 2: Well, that's an extreme example because of how much they've

478
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: done to rob the city and cheat the fans out

479
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: of their passion as well. But but but I think

480
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: the team you love should be open to criticism.

481
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,959
Speaker 3: By you better way of saying that, no doubt, And

482
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: that's part of being a true fan. I think you

483
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: don't want to be just a drone like, Yes, Steeler's good,

484
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: everything they do is right.

485
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: Brown's bad, Raven's bad. There's a lot of them out there.

486
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Speaker 2: What do you make of that stat I just said,

487
00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: where they are eight and one oh one rather against

488
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: teams that are eight games under five hundred or worse

489
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: when they play them.

490
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: It's the only team to ever do that in the

491
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: history of the NFL to have a streak like that.

492
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: And Tom was the coach for all that, so he

493
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: owns that streak, just like he owns the win never

494
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 3: had a losing season streak.

495
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Speaker 1: He owes this one. He's directly on him. Yeah.

496
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Speaker 2: Period, he's the common denominator, and they come out flat

497
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Speaker 2: in games like Yesterday's.

498
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Speaker 3: All the time, and it spans so many years, like

499
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 3: it goes back to like twenty twenty. So that's what

500
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 3: the common denominator is so clearly, Mike Tomlin. I don't

501
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 3: know how a team can so consistently overlook just terrible

502
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 3: football teams. Like look what the Patriots did at the

503
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: Jets yesterday. Mark, They're in the same spot as the Steelers.

504
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: They win, they get the division pretty much locked up.

505
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 3: They just pounded them into the turf. They acted like

506
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: they needed to win that game to save their playoff life.

507
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 3: Steelers never have that sense of urgency when the opponent

508
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 3: is as miserable as the Browns were.

509
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 2: Do you think there's any way Tom will gets fired

510
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: if they lose to Baltimore.

511
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: No, there's zero chance that happens. Is there any way

512
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: he resigns.

513
00:23:59,720 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: No?

514
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he does. I think he wants to say.

515
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: Somebody on Twitter said that this is like a bowl game, No,

516
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: a playoff game between the Ravens and Steelers.

517
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: The winner goes to the playoffs.

518
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: The losing coach goes to the New York Giants, which

519
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 2: which is what I'm praying for. If tom On went

520
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 2: to the New York Giants, you'd see he was never

521
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: a good coach all along. He'd be going to an

522
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 2: even worse, more disheveled organization, and he'd mangle it even worse.

523
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: But there's no chance that that happens. They could lose

524
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: to steal from Pat NARDUZI one hundred to nothing, and

525
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: they would not fire Mike Tomlin. There is a chance

526
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 3: that the Ravens might examine John Harbaugh, though, if they

527
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: lose this game and waste another year with Lamar Jackson.

528
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: What about your pitt Panthers. They lost to East Carolina.

529
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: East Carolinas missing like their quarterback, they're running back, they're

530
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: both their coordinators.

531
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Speaker 1: What the heck happened?

532
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 3: And lo and behold, Mason Heinschell might just be the

533
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 3: next Eli Holstein. I mean he kind of thinks.

534
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Speaker 1: Who said it me? The super genius? Yeah?

535
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: No, that that's the one takeaway. Because I was flipping

536
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 2: the dial. I watched maybe like two or three offensive series.

537
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: He looked real terrible. His pocket presence is off how much?

538
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: How much?

539
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: And I would you give him because you gave him

540
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: stein a million to not play this shit.

541
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Speaker 3: I have no idea, but I feel like they already

542
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 3: have some deal worked out with him, right, because why

543
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: would he play in the bummy ball game if he

544
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: wasn't playing on coming back to.

545
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: Pitt Nordoozi's coached at Pitt eleven seasons. It seems like

546
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: one hundred and he's lost five games in nine of them.

547
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: The ball games. Now he's lost five five games in

548
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: a season.

549
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then his ball record is just abysmal too,

550
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: and you know, ball record whatever. But I'd like to

551
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 3: win those more often than not. When you get into

552
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: them as a fan, it's fun, you know.

553
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: It's like Penn State beat Clemson, and I give, by

554
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: the way, Terry Smith a lot of credit to rally.

555
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: They won the last four games. He rallied them. He

556
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: under no circumstances should have been hired as the head

557
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: coach after being interim. You know, they got the guy

558
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: from Iowa State, Matt Campbell, right right, And that's a

559
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: good choice. And Terry will do very well there, like

560
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: he always has as the number two guy.

561
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. But at least that was a real

562
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: ball game. It was a real state Clemson, that's the thing.

563
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 3: Like you could feel legitimately happy about beating that logo

564
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: on the side of the helmet. I mean, Clemson sucks

565
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: this year, don't get me wrong, but like, at least Clemson,

566
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean to me.

567
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: There was pressure on Pitt to be these Carolina what

568
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: are they the All American Conference? Yeah, you know, they're

569
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: like some just lower level, non Power five team, and

570
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: they were missing the quarterback and the coordinators.

571
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Speaker 1: They beat Pitt. That's the thing.

572
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: They're not a bad team East Carolina, but they are

573
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: when they don't have their starting quarterbacks, starting running back

574
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 3: from the season, and their coordinator's gone, then they are

575
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: a very bad team.

576
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Speaker 2: I wish to get rid of our duties. I would

577
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 2: love no chance again to be a pit fan and

578
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: go to their games. But as long as he's there,

579
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: no way. I had a pit fan say to me, well,

580
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: you always criticize anardoozie and you won't give them a chance.

581
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: I go, what do you mean, give them a chance?

582
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: It's been there a decade and they go, well, do

583
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 2: you think that's fair? And I go, that's cute. You

584
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 2: think fair has something to do with it? One oh

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Speaker 2: five nine the X.

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Speaker 3: From the one oh five to nine the ex Weather Center.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be cloudy, windy, and rain today, possibly turning

588
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Speaker 5: the snow falling. Temperatures cloudy and windy tonight with snow

589
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Speaker 5: or flurries possible, dropping to twenty one. Cloudy tomorrow with

590
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Speaker 5: now or flurry's possible with a high of twenty five.

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Speaker 5: It's the mark Mann Frega Show one nine DX.

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Speaker 2: Shandrovitch and Fishman. They got your back, not your wallet, Tom.

595
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Speaker 2: Just so people don't think we're heartless pessimists. I mean,

596
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: the Steelers could win this game. I don't think they're

597
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: going to.

598
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: But they could.

599
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they could. I don't think the Ravens

600
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: are that great this year. Oh, the Ravens had betrayed

601
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: their roster. I was gonna ask you about that.

602
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought they had the best roster in

603
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: football at season start, and I know the Lamar injury

604
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: has really taken a toll because when he's played, he's

605
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: clearly not been anywhere close to one hundred percent.

606
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: But I thought they'd do much better.

607
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: Then again, let me tell you, if they make the playoffs,

608
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: they'll be much more dangerous than the Steelers would be.

609
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: Could you imagine Baltimore and Buffalo in the first round.

610
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: They would be much more dangerous than the Steelers. But

611
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: I think whoever gets that four seed is a one

612
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: and done going into that game. First of all, I

613
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: think they're gonna beat each other up up on Sunday night,

614
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: and then they're gonna have to have to turn around

615
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: and go play a playoff game. And it could be Buffalo,

616
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: but right now it's Houston in that five seed, and

617
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: I think Houston's probably gonna hold onto that five seed.

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00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: If the Steelers do beat Baltimore, they will regret, as

619
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, not having gotten Yes, Rogers and Ramsey

620
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: and Hayward and the old bastards like that a de

621
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Speaker 2: facto bye week, letting them rest in Week eighteen, Tom,

622
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: what do we got for the trifecta?

623
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Speaker 3: For the trifecta, I want to play a bit of

624
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: the blame game here. We've already done that a little

625
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: bit throughout the show today. But here are my three

626
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: Steelers to blame the most Browns in order? Yes, do

627
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 3: you want me to go for most, to blame to

628
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: least or at least to most.

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Speaker 2: I think ascending is more fun, so third, second, First, okay, parfect,

630
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: thanks for explaining that I ascending meant my god, all right?

631
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Speaker 1: Number three? Are we fire you every once in a while.

632
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Rogers for number three. He was

633
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: on the field. He was just terrible in that football game.

634
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: Had no command of the offense whatsoever, had no feel

635
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: for what the Browns defense was really doing. And I

636
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 3: get what he's doing on that fourth and one when

637
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: he goes to Scotty Miller, you know what I mean?

638
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: Like that's the right read because he had the right coverage.

639
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: It dictated that it's Scotty freakin Miller. Dude, you have

640
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: to read the room there.

641
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: Number two.

642
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Mike Tomlin. I bet you think

643
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: he should be number one, but I got to put

644
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: number one as DK metcalf. You punch a fan and

645
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: now you're out for two games.

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Speaker 2: In terms of tangibly losing the game, yesterday. I agree

647
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: DK was most in fault. I mean punching a fan.

648
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't think that needs that can't be stated enough

649
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: this week after losing to the Browns and leading into

650
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 3: the Ravens game, that he punched a fan and now

651
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: you don't have them.

652
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: You think DK acknowledges to himself even that he did

653
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: something wrong.

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Speaker 1: Or do you think he still feels justified?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's tough to read.

657
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: I bet you there's part of him that feels justified,

658
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Speaker 3: but he's got to feel a little uncomfortable, right, Like

659
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: the guys in that locker room probably are like, come on, dude,

660
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: you really screwed us here.

661
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: Do you think the huddle was sick of Rogers yesterday?

662
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: I would have been. All he did was complain.

663
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: I think they get scared of him at that point,

664
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: Like they just kind of look at him like, oh cheez,

665
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to make him mad.

666
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: Now he's mad at everybody.

667
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: And there's no real veterany type guy in there huddle

668
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: that could say, dude, shut the freaking.

669
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: And bark back.

670
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like when it's playful, you know what I mean,

671
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: Like Rodger Jones would give it back. To him and

672
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: frying with kid, I'm talking. I'm not talking about play,

673
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: That's what I mean though, when he's talking about serious

674
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: even a four time MVP at forty two can arrive

675
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: at a spot where he needs to be put in

676
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: his place, and yesterday was that spot for Aaron Rodgers,

677
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: simply because he played terribly and was clearly unfocused. Yeah,

678
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: like Dad at his wits end, Aaron Rodgers, it's just

679
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: frustrated at everything. It feels like everybody in the huddle

680
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: starts walking on egg shells. And you're right, there's not

681
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: a receiver. Because Stelen and MVS got there like two

682
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: minutes ago, and they're grateful for Rogers giving him that job.

683
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: They're not going to bark back at him. Maybe DK

684
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: would have punched him.

685
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: Maybe DK is the one that would have been like, Yo,

686
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: you gotta wake up man, Like, come on, we're not

687
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: losing to the Browns. Then again, I don't think Rodgers

688
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: would have played as bad as he did if he

689
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: had DK at his disposal.

690
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: Trifecta brought to us by Danny's patron Hogies. That's Pittsburgh's

691
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: original oven bake togy since nineteen sixty Danny's on Route

692
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: eighty eight in Bethel Park. Now, now here's a bitch

693
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: Tom I had about Rogers yesterday in particular, Well yesterday

694
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: it all just.

695
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Came to a head. It's something that's been building, but

696
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: it was worse than ever.

697
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: Rogers has obviously transformed the offense into whatever he feels

698
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: comfortable doing, as opposed to what's working. As I mentioned earlier,

699
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: they averaged five point five yards per carry, but through

700
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: almost twice.

701
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: As much as they ran.

702
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: And in terms of the receivers, who gets how many

703
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: snaps and who gets how many targets? Scotty Miller got

704
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: seven targets. He shouldn't even be on the goddamn field.

705
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: He shouldn't even get a helmet. He's a bum, but

706
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: he's been anointed by Rogers, saying with MVS got nine targets,

707
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: including the last three.

708
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 5: Tom.

709
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: He was on the practice squad until week fifteen. I

710
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: know they hate Roman Wilson, and clearly Rogers don't like

711
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: him either, But how could you don't have more faith

712
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: in Roman Wilson at this point in his career than

713
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: in Miller and MV.

714
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: Yes, at this point in theirs. I completely agree the

715
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: fact that those two guys were You're leading target getters

716
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: in the passing game is a joke.

717
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: Right like? And I kind of get because at least

718
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: he did something sometimes somewhere.

719
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: But he even had far less targets than then. He

720
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: had two less targets than Miller and four less targets

721
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: than mvs at Adam Thielen. And you're right, Roman Wilson

722
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: couldn't do what those guys did for a couple of routes.

723
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: Of course he could have. But my big gripe is

724
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: Firemouth didn't get any targets until really the end of

725
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: the football game. John new Smith hardly involved again until

726
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: Darnell Washington breaks his arm and the main one four

727
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: targets for Kenneth Gainwell in the passing game and seven

728
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: carries for.

729
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Him in the running game. All week long, we've been

730
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: talking about, Hey, maybe he's the team MVP. Then they

731
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: ignore him.

732
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 2: As I said, that's the disclaimer. They were using him

733
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: almost too much to block Garrett and chip on Garrett.

734
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: I don't believe they were worried about Garrett breaking watch record.

735
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: But again that's the one disclaimer. How gain Well was used.

736
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's poor coaching because Why can't Warren just do

737
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: that and then Gainwell can line up in the slot

738
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: they're allowed to be on the field at the same

739
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: time to get game Well can just pretend to be

740
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: a wide receiver for a game?

741
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: He can do it. Do you think Rogers Bounce is

742
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: back strong against Baltimore from a game where he was

743
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: clearly unnerved in addition to not playing very well.

744
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's his last game ever, or if

745
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: he thinks this is the potential for it to be

746
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: his last game ever, so he doesn't hold anything back

747
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: in that regard.

748
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: And he kind of I don't think he goes into

749
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: the game knowing that think or even thinking that, Yeah,

750
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: maybe I agree with you.

751
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: I don't think he probably does. And even if he did,

752
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: he doesn't have DK Metcalf. He doesn't have the appropriate

753
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: weaponry unless he leans on the tight end Smith and

754
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: Friarmouth to actually do well offensive.

755
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: He just you reminding me he don't have DK and

756
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: that he won't want to lean on Friarmouth and John

757
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: Hu although he has to, like I hate, got no choice.

758
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: I hate to say it's a good thing that the

759
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: fat kid broke his arm, But like if I was

760
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: X raying him this week and there was a chance

761
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: he could play. I'd like to drop the X ray

762
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: machine on his arm and make sure the break was

763
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: a little more pronounced.

764
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: But but that's believable with the Steelers' medical staff.

765
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: By the way, that's absolutely correct, with wat getting stabbed

766
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: in the lawn and everything. But but yeah, it's just

767
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: it's just the stink sandwich tom and I don't see

768
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: them bouncing back. And I know people say, well, it

769
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 2: would be just like Tomlin and Tomlin Steelers to bounce

770
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: back and win this game, but stuff like that is

771
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: the sirens song of the truly desperate.

772
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they're gonna bounce back either. I

773
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: just have a healthy fear for what Derek Henry is

774
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: going to be able to do. I think Baltimore might

775
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 3: beat the crap out of them, like we can't happen

776
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: be up by like, you know, two scores at the

777
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: end of the first quarter, and boy, Akrasher Stadium would

778
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: turn on the Steelers and Tomlin especially big time at

779
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: that time. I think you could look like the playoff

780
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: game did the wild Card game last year, and it's

781
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: just Henry running all over you for almost thre hundred yard.

782
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: You know what's funny, Tom, I'm gonna give myself a

783
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: pattern of back. One thing I do stand for in

784
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: this industry, in Pittsburgh's credibility. Yes, the guy down the dial,

785
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: like like a couple of weeks ago, he's like, we

786
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: should be ashamed of having chanted fire, Tomlin, and not

787
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: today he's got to go gotta fire.

788
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm gotta get rid of him, all right.

789
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: We want your calls for calls on the FIFTEENES today

790
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: expanded to five fifteen in addition to three fifteen and

791
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: four fifteen because you got angst.

792
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: I want to hear it.

793
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: And I think their season is going to be over

794
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: after they lose to Baltimore Sunday night at after sure,

795
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: but that won't be what's really sad. What's really sad

796
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: is when they bring almost everybody back next year and

797
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: do things exactly the same. Then again, that's been really

798
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: sad for nine years, and y'all ain't even noticed