1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Fo Night. 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 2: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of 3 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: talk show host Michael Brown. 4 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 3: Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job 5 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 3: the Weekend with Michael. 6 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 4: Brown broadcasting live from Denver, Colorado. You've tuned into the 7 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 4: Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have you joining the 8 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 4: program today. Text line, as usual is always open, no 9 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 4: matter when you're listening to the program. That number three 10 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 4: three one zero three three three one zero three. Keyword 11 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 4: Mike or Michael. Tell me anything, Ask me anything, and 12 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 4: then do me a favorite engage. Follow me on social media, 13 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 4: whether it's ex formerly Twitter, at Facebook, or Instagram. They're 14 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: all at Michael D. Brown at Michael D. Brown. So 15 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 4: let's get going. I want you to think about, oh, 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 4: pick any issue. I don't care what the issue is. 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 4: I think we go through a particular cycle or a 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 4: particular rhythm, a particular process in almost every story or 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: issue that we deal with. Generally, it goes like this, 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: some group you know, ostensibly a bunch of experts or 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 4: a non government organization or a nonprofit or a political 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: party or you know, a trade association. But you get 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: the idea that there's some group issues a report or 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: a study, and whatever the conclusion is, one side or 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 4: the other comes out. And the second part is the denial. 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: Now some groups will agree, others will deny, but it's 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 4: you know, the issue gets thrown out there by supposed experts. 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: Everybody runs to their corner and we've got denials or approvals. 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 4: And then there's a third step, the euphemism. And I 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 4: think that applies to a controversy that we're ignoring that 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: I keep seeing pop up on And this is why 32 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: I often ask you to follow me on an X 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: in particular, that I keep see popping up. I was 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: in New York a couple of months ago, and you know, 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: I stayed in Times Square simply because I had taken 36 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: my granddaughter's first time and she had been in New 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 4: York for what my first time in New York, the 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 4: first time at for any length of time in New 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 4: York other than just landing at Kennedy or something. So 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 4: I thought, let's don't stay downtown. Let's stay in Times 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 4: Square be a kind of a central part. And there 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: were lots of times that very late at night, midnight 43 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: or after we'd be going back to the hotel, and 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: Times Square would be fairly quiet, but still bustling with 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 4: tourists and just people going about their business. Well, if 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: you've looked on my timeline or you've been on X 47 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 4: at all, you've seen these throngs, and I do mean 48 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: throngs of Muslims blocking out now Times Square has over 49 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: the years come blocked to everything except pedestrian traffic. Now 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: the cross streets, most of the cross streets are still 51 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: open to automobiles, but Broadway and the others shut down 52 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 4: pedestrian traffic only. These photographs show throngs of Muslims with 53 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: their prayer rugs taking up the entire street, taking up 54 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: almost the entirety of Times Square, depending on which photograph 55 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: you look at and the perspective and the focal length 56 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: of the lens they're using, but it looks like just 57 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: they've taken up the entire entirety of Times Square. So 58 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: there's a controversy that we're ignoring about ISLAMI no go zones, 59 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: not just in New York, not just in Seattle, not 60 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: just in different parts of the country, but in the 61 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: West in general. And that issue of a no go 62 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: zone follows that precise pattern that I was talking about. 63 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: Get you have a denial, then you get some sort 64 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: of euphemism. The phrase itself a no go zone becomes 65 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: a contested term, or what do you mean a no 66 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: go zone? Well, you can contest the term all you 67 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: want to, but the underlying activity, the actuality, the phenomenon, 68 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: however you want to describe it, is not contested. So 69 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: let's start with definitions. What's met by a no go zone? 70 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: The core is the core idea of a no go 71 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: zone is pretty simple. A no go zone is an area, 72 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: usually within a municipality a city, where ordinary civic norms 73 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: do not fully apply, where the authority of this state 74 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 4: is attenuated or maybe completely kept out entirely, and where 75 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: non members of the dominant life local community are discouraged, 76 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: or they're intimidated, or they're somehow effectively excluded from going 77 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: into that area. In the specific context at issue of 78 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 4: a no go zone, the claim is that there are 79 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: some Muslim majority neighborhoods in Western countries in which non Muslims, 80 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 4: law enforcement, or for that matter, any other outsiders face 81 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: practical barriers to entry. Those barriers are either enforced through intimidation, 82 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: social coercion, or the emergence of parallel legal norms informed 83 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 4: by Sharia law. Now, one might object at once, aren't 84 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: there statues declaring such areas off limits? No, And that's 85 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: precisely the point. The phenomenon of no go zones, if 86 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: it exists, is de facto. Rather than desure, a government 87 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: is not going to announce that it has ceded its 88 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 4: authority to a group of Muslims. Instead, authority erodes. Gradually, 89 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: the language begins to soften, the language becomes more acceptable, 90 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: Officials adopt new categories. Well, while all of that's going on, 91 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 4: the reality of a no go zone remains. Doing a 92 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: little bit of luxusnexus research, you find that the phrase 93 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: no go zone appeared prominently beginning in the early two thousands, 94 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: predominantly in France. In April two thousand and two, writing 95 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: from Paris, David Ignatius Boshington posts New York Times described 96 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: the Islamic North African suburbs that had become no go 97 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 4: zones at night, and he linked the label to crime, 98 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: unrest and racial tension. But the term did not arise 99 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: from fringe blogs. It entered mainstream discourse simply as a 100 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: way of describing urban disas streets where the ordinary assurances 101 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 4: of safety and state controlled, state oversight where there was 102 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: some rule of law that was administered, you know, within 103 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: the French Republic was diminished. That's only two thousand and two. 104 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: By two thousand and five, reporting during the French riots 105 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: referenced domestic intelligence assessments that the cops would not venture 106 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: into about one hundred and fifty such areas unless they 107 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: had significant reinforcements. In two thousand and two, the Washington 108 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: Times reported on Antwerp describing attempts to create Nogo areas 109 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 4: for cops in immigrant districts. So the label was beginning 110 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: to spread, not because of ideology, but simply because others 111 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 4: were kind of struggling, like we see a pattern, we're 112 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: not quite sure how to describe it. And then finally, 113 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight, the warning about no go 114 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: zones became pretty sharp, fairly well delineated. The Church of England, 115 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: a bishop by the name of Michael Nazir a Lay 116 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: stated that Islamic extremists had created areas in Britain that 117 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: were too dangerous for non Muslims to enter, and in 118 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: describing that, he spoke of physical attacks on those that 119 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: were of different race or different faith, and he spoke 120 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: directly of attempts to reshape public life through calls to 121 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 4: prayer and the wider application of Sharia norms. Just before 122 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 4: we go to break in one of the videos about 123 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: the Muslims overtaking Times Square. If you listen closely, you 124 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: can hear the Arabic call to prayer, the Islamic call 125 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 4: to prayer in the background in New York City. And 126 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 4: you're going to tell me that no go zones aren't real. 127 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: Hang tight, I'll be right back. Hey, welcome back to 128 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me. 129 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: I appreciate you tuning in. Be sure and subscribe to 130 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: the podcast. 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So 136 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: go hit that subscribe button for the Situation with Michael Brown. 137 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: So we're talking about no go zones and how once again, 138 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: if you look across the pond, you look across the 139 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: Atlantic you'll realize that Europe is actually giving us a 140 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: warning and we're not paying any attention to it. So 141 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 4: we've gone from two thousand, two thousand and two, when 142 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: Dave Ignacius first started reporting on no go zones in France, 143 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: to two thousand and eight when one of the bishops 144 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: from the Church of England said that there were Islamic 145 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: extremists that had created areas in Britain they were just 146 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 4: simply too dangerous for non Muslim to enter. And you 147 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: described that there were physical attacks on those that if 148 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: you're of a different race or a different faith, or 149 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: if you were trying to reshape public life. And then 150 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: political figures started to echo some concerns about voluntary apartheid, 151 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: about closed societies that were demanding immunity from criticism. We 152 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: see that all the time in all kinds of so 153 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 4: called societies or communities. Oh, you can't criticize that, you 154 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: can't criticize this, you can't criticize them, you can't criticize whatever, 155 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: because well, you're some sort of phobe, or you're a racist, 156 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: or you're anti Now, all these people that are doing 157 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: this are not just you know, freelancers. They're not just 158 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 4: ordinary people. Everyone I've described to you so far have 159 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: been senior public officials reacting to what I would describe 160 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 4: as concrete developments. Yet what happens the denial follows. In Europe, 161 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 4: and quite frankly in this country too, the left insisted 162 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: that the very phrase no go zone was somehow islamophobi. 163 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 4: They argue that that kind of labeling stigmatized immigrant communities 164 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: and was inflaming prejudice, And there were even broadcasters that 165 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 4: would retract segments that use the term, and in the 166 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: Mayor of Paris threatened legal action in twenty fifteen after 167 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 4: American television describe parts of Paris as Muslim only no 168 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: go zones. That rhetorical dispute obscured a more interesting fact. 169 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: European governments themselves had already developed official categories that captured 170 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: much of the same reality. France's zones urbane sensibles were 171 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 4: defined by statute as part of municipal policy. In two 172 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: thousand and six, somewhere around four million people lived in 173 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: these sensitive urban areas. That's about seven percent of the 174 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 4: entire population of France. Almost ten percent those districts delineated 175 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: by the Paris government. They had higher unemployment, they had 176 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: lower employment rates, and they had higher concentrations of immigrant residents. 177 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: And then later France introduced what was called zon's to 178 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: secure Priority Priority Secure zones. Those were areas zones where 179 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 4: delinquency and incivilities were described as are you ready structurally entrenched, 180 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: often within just the entire sensibilities of that area. Coordinative 181 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: state action was required precisely because baseline order had begun 182 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: to eroad and officials law. They didn't call them no 183 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 4: go zones. They didn't need to because operationally, that's how 184 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: they acted, that's how they were operated. So you didn't 185 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 4: make any difference what you called them. It's what they were. 186 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: It's what you could or could not do where you 187 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 4: could or could not go. So operationally, I don't care 188 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: what you called it. Oh, it's just a you know 189 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 4: what we it's the it's the Brentwood neighborhood. Oh really, well, 190 00:13:53,960 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: the Brentwood neighborhood, from a purely operational standpoint, doesn't have 191 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: any Los Angeles Police officers in it. The Los Angeles 192 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: County Sheriff's Office isn't there. And if you're not Muslim, 193 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 4: you can't go there. And by the way, they operate 194 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: with their own court system. The operational implications in Paris 195 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: were clear, then let's go to Sweden, excuse me, twenty fifteen. 196 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: For the past eleven years, the National Police Authority has 197 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 4: published analytical reports that identify actual Islamic no go zones, 198 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: and they describe them as vulnerable areas and particularly vulnerable areas. So, 199 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: in that framework that they established back in twenty fifteen, 200 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: particularly vulnerable areas were described as places where policing could 201 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: be really difficult or almost impossible. Why because of threats 202 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: of systemic violence, low participation in the legal process as 203 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: a results of Shari law. And those Swedish reports referenced 204 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: actual parallels social structures and forms of extremism, including a 205 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: strong Islamic influence that restricted the rights and systematic infringements 206 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: on religious freedom. Sweden. Everybody's always telling me, Sween's the 207 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: model of how we can do everything, healthcare to freedom 208 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: to the way to live everything. Really, Sweden's gone, just gone. 209 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen, four years after they acknowledged that we 210 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: have these so called no go zones, the police counted 211 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: sixty such Islamic no go zones that met the threshold 212 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: of serious criminal impact. Now, legally these are intelligence categories, 213 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: but practically what they do is they describe neighborhoods where 214 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: the state's authority is impaired, if not outright excluded, and 215 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: they have an alternative norm by which they operate. What 216 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: would you describe that? I mean, isn't that for a 217 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 4: Christian or a Jew, or a Hindu or a Sikh, 218 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: or anybody a Catholic or a Protestant or an atheist 219 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: or an agna. Isn't that a place where you can't go? 220 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: Where it's operating within a republican small art form of government, 221 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: it's operating within a state in a by state, I mean, 222 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: like a country, but it's operating independently its own system 223 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: and norms and everything else. That's a no go zone. 224 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: Denmark's go and later parallel society frameworksmen even further incorporating 225 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: non Western population thresholds. This is Denmark's official way of 226 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: looking at it. They incorporated a non Western population threshold thresholds. 227 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 4: They also added that added to that socioeconomic and crime indicators, 228 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: and the legal designations of these de facto Islamic no 229 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: gozones actually started getting so bad that it started to 230 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: draw scrutiny at the European Union level for potential non 231 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 4: discrimination concerns. How twisted is that? But the very existence 232 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: of a statutory framework for identifying Islamic no go zones 233 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 4: underscores that the issue is not imaginary. The United Kingdom 234 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: and Germany both have prosecuted vigilante Sharia patrols, self styled 235 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: enforcers who declared certain streets Musslim areas and were harassing 236 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 4: non believers. Wow, I think we've got no gozones in 237 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: Europe and we have the denials. Hang tight, take it 238 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 4: one step further next. 239 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of talk. 240 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 5: Show host Michael Brown. 241 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: Brownie, no Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job 242 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: the Weekend with Michael Brown. 243 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to 244 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: have you with me. I appreciate you tuning in. If 245 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: you like what we do on the weekend. 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Europe 254 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: once again is not showing us what's coming to America. 255 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 4: I think Europe has been showing us what is in America. 256 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 4: As I said before the break, both the United Kingdom 257 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 4: and Germany have actually prosecuted these vigilante Sharia patrols who 258 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: are self styled kind of enforcers, who have actually declared 259 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: certain streets as Muslim areas and then are harassing any 260 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: non believer that's there. They actually have courts that impose fines, 261 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: actual imprisonment, custodial sentences. Now these this shows you two 262 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: things at the same time. First, any attempts at micro 263 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: level no go enforcement have and are occurring. Second, the 264 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 4: state sometimes pushes back, which what well, that proves that 265 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 4: islaw me no go zones do in fact exist. Now, 266 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 4: if you're a skeptic like me, you might respond with 267 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: that crime and social fragmentation does not equal sharia governance. 268 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: And that would be correct, except not every vulnerable area 269 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 4: is governed by religious law. But the Steelman version of 270 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: the argument does not require any sort of caricature. It 271 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: requires only recognition of the recurring mechanism large scale Muslim 272 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: Islamic migration combined with weak, if any assimilation at all, 273 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: a concentration of the settlement. That then what that generates 274 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: neighborhoods in which social norms diverge sharply from national norms, 275 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: national laws. And in the case of youth, I would 276 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: just say American norms, American law. And if the majority 277 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 4: in those kinds of areas regards certain behaviors as forbidden, 278 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: that begins the whole social peer pressure. So a convenience 279 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: store selling alcohol, it'll close because of community pressure. A 280 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: dog owner walking through the neighborhood faces hostility. A street 281 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: preacher distributing Christian scripture encounters harassment. Just a few days ago, 282 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 4: I went to a neighborhood grocery store, and it took 283 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 4: me a while to find it, but I could hear 284 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 4: someone preaching loudly. Didn't have a bull horn, but they 285 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 4: were preaching somewhere in the parking lot of the grocery store, 286 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 4: and I was just curious. I kept looking and walking, 287 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 4: and oh, I finally found them. They were standing in 288 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: the in between the parking area of the cars, and 289 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 4: they had a box there full of Bibles, and they 290 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: were preaching and giving away bibles. And I mean some 291 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 4: people stop, but most people just let it be. You 292 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 4: think that would happen in a Islamic no go zone. No, 293 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: So he's exercising in a public space, some young black man, 294 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 4: preaching the Gospel, believing what he's doing to evangelize, and 295 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 4: being met, you know, with some pleasant greetings and mostly 296 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: being ignored. So a street preacher like him, distributing Christian 297 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 4: scripture is going to encounter harassment, if not outright violence. 298 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 4: And over time you see that happen, you understand what 299 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 4: the consequences are, You get the hint, and the area 300 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: becomes informally homogeneous. One American News had a report recently, 301 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: and the Chiron Reeves Muslim Community Patrols have New York 302 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 4: City residents alarmed. 303 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: It's vice president, Noah Raba. The group currently has thirty 304 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: members but plans on rapidly expanding to cover the entire city. 305 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: He describes the Muslim patrols like a neighborhood watch, but 306 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: on steroids, with members dressed like police officers and driving 307 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: cars I identical to police squad cars. 308 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 4: See this is thing about that cycle. So here's a report. Oh, 309 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 4: a denial, But how can you deny that that the 310 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: cars are look like white New York City patrol cars. 311 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: They have a shield on it. They have the initials MCP, 312 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: which you might mistake if you're just glancing for something 313 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: about police. Hmmm, it actually stands for Muslim Community Patrol 314 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 4: in New York City driving cars that look almost identical 315 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: to New York PD patrol cars. Wow. 316 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: Residents say they're uncomfortable with the patrols, which they describe 317 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: as being similar to Sharia police. Others have raised doubts 318 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: about the purpose of the patrols, saying New York's police 319 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: department is already very diverse and their only job is 320 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 3: to patrol the city streets and protect people from our 321 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 3: harassment or crime, So why does there need to be 322 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: a Muslim group tasked with the same job as the police. 323 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 3: Even other Muslims have raised questions about the need for 324 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 3: the patrols, with residents expressing fears this is just another 325 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: form of Sharia law enforcement. Similar groups can already be 326 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: seen in other major European cities in Denmark, Germany, France, 327 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: Sweden and Britain. These patrols have been going on for years. 328 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: In a CNN report caught Muslims from patrol in London 329 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: harassing residents in Whitechapel. One man can be heard insulting 330 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: a gay man, calling him offensive names and telling him 331 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: he wasn't welcome in a Muslim area. Others denounced residents 332 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: for drinking, claiming this is a Muslim area and alcohol 333 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: is not permitted. They also harassed a woman as she 334 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 3: was crossing the street, warning her that her short skirt 335 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 3: was not allowed in Muslim areas. And now with the 336 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: arrival of these Muslim patrols to New York City, Americans 337 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: are becoming worried they'll fall under the same harassment for 338 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: not following Islamic practices. 339 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: How How in the hell are we allowing this to 340 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: occur in this country. It's truly shocking. The final stage 341 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 4: is not always going to be a formal Sharia court. 342 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: It could be something more subtle, more discreet. Police will 343 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 4: enter only with reinforcements, or witnesses might decline to cooperate, 344 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 4: or businesses, just like with the mob, will pay protection 345 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 4: to the local Islamic gangs that are aligned with the 346 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 4: religious authorities. Women will alter their dress or conduct just 347 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 4: to avoid confrontation. Oh there's public order. It exists, but 348 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 4: it's maintained by a mix of criminal and religious actors 349 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 4: rather than by a neutral state. And we're going to 350 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 4: allow that to occur here. 351 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 2: So I made a simple statement of I have to 352 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: choose between having my dog and you living here and 353 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: taking my dog away. The choice isn't hard. You can 354 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: leave and go home. And the fact of the matter 355 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: is the world went crazy. And what's fascinating is all 356 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: the Democrats that have attacked me. Not a single one 357 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 2: has said you have the right to own a doc. 358 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: They are all coming down on you can lead your 359 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 2: dog to slaughter if that's what we have to do 360 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: to make Muslim immigrants happy. 361 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: In the United States, it's Thomerson randifying from New York. Now, 362 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: the US context may be slightly different. I don't think 363 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 4: that really any American city totally mirrors the scale of 364 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: certain European districts that we've read to know about. But 365 00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: the warning signs are there. Dearborn, Michigan, Hamtrap, Michigan, Cedar, 366 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 4: Riverside neighborhood of Minneapolis, often called what Little Mogadishu. Those 367 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: are frequently cited in no go narratives, but fact checkers 368 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 4: will tell you all that Shria does not formally replace 369 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 4: US law, and of course that's true. But the question 370 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 4: is narrower than that. Are their Muslim majority neighborhoods where 371 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 4: the social norms effectively limit speech, limit commerce or religious 372 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 4: expression aboutsiders The answer is definitively yes, proof and. 373 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 5: Not violate the religion of this mom by selling and 374 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 5: discriminating products that are just from religion. Because we should 375 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 5: love what Allah loves and we should hate what Alat hates. 376 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 4: Said what we're here by the way they're carrying signs, 377 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 4: this says gambling, liquor, pork outlawed. 378 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 5: Or and little by little, one by one, we're going 379 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 5: to be visiting all of this in the neighborhood, particularly 380 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 5: the inner city neighborhoods, where the religion. 381 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 4: Of this flamb is ignored. Why why are we tolerating this? 382 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 5: Why? 383 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 4: Consider a recent Dearborn City council meeting, there was a 384 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 4: Christian minister objecting to renaming Warren Avenue after Osama Sabloni, 385 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 4: publisher of the Arab American News on what basis, citing 386 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 4: past praise for Hesbelah the mayor. 387 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 5: Oh. 388 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: The mayor responded by laying the minister in Islama Phobe, 389 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 4: declaring him unwelcome in our city. No ordinance barred him 390 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 4: from entry. It's the symbolism that matters. When an elected 391 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: official tells a citizen he is unwelcome in his own 392 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: city for just voicing dissent. You've drawn a boundary. It's informal, 393 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 4: but it's a real boundary, very very real. 394 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm the embassy in bay Ruth and including 395 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: many Americans, so I just feel that's quite inappropriate Atmophobe. 396 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 6: And although you live here, I want you to know 397 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 6: why it is, Mayor, you're not welcome here. And the 398 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 6: day you move out of the city, well with the 399 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 6: day that I launched a parade celebrating the fact that 400 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 6: you moved out of the city, because you are not 401 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 6: somebody who believes in coexistence. 402 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: I mean a whole lot doesn't believe in co existence. 403 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: I want you to think about that next time you 404 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: see the co existence mumper sticker, because coexistence does not 405 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: mean coexistence. I'll be right back, Welcome back to the 406 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me. 407 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: Imagine being a citizen of your town and you're concerned 408 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: about no go zones. So the mayor of Dearborn once 409 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: the name the street in honor of Osamas Sablania, supporter 410 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 4: of a Hamas and his bela so a Christian, A 411 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: local resident, Edward Burrom objectionory city council, and the mayor 412 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: responds this way. 413 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, bombed the embassy in bay Ruth 414 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: and including many Americans. So I just feel that's quite inappropriate. 415 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 6: You Areophoe and although you live here, I want you 416 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: to know, as mayor, you're. 417 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: Not welcome here. 418 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 6: And the day you move out of the city, well 419 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 6: with the day that I launched a parade celebrating the 420 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 6: fact that you moved out of the city because you 421 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 6: are not somebody who believes in coexistence. 422 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: I love the Left for this reason, the way they 423 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 4: bastardize the language I want to plant in your head 424 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: the next time you see the co existence coexistence bumpers 425 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 4: ticker to realize that, oh, they mean exactly the opposite. 426 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 4: They don't want to coexist. Beg. Here's Mayor Abdullahmud who 427 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: wants a citizen of his town to move out because 428 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 4: he considers him to be his islamophote, because they're gonna 429 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 4: name a street after somebody who's a supporter of Hamason 430 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 4: has the law. Wow, now I know that critics will 431 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: argue that, well, these are this is isolated, it's not 432 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 4: territorial exclusion. 433 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: What is it? 434 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: Then? 435 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 4: Patterns matter more than anecdotes. In Sweden, police describe particularly 436 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 4: vulnerable areas where parallel structures and Islamic fundamentalist influence restrict rights. 437 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: In France you got priority security zones that require coordinated 438 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 4: state intervention because of the entrench Islamic control. United Kingdom 439 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 4: and Germany self appointed shree of patrols have attempted to 440 00:31:54,280 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 4: police behavior. Why then, the insistence that this phon of 441 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 4: no go zones is a myth? The lefts replacement migration 442 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: to offset declining native birth rates never put to a vote. 443 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 4: The narrative of successful multicultural integration is politically indispensable and 444 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: quite fright. This is just a bunch of bull craft. 445 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 4: To admit that certain neighborhoods evolve into parallel Islamic societies 446 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 4: governed in part by Sharia norms is to admit the 447 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: failure of any sort of integration or assimilation policy. So instead, 448 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 4: it's just easier for the left to reframe the issue 449 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 4: as you are, You're just a bigot. Here's Islama vote, 450 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: instead of just confronting the reality and the structural failure 451 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: of our society to protect itself. Labely an area no 452 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: go zone. Sure, it can stigmatize residents who reject extremism 453 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 4: but are merely trying to conform, but that's a serious 454 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 4: moral cost. Denying real problems imposes different cost because it 455 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: prevents early intervention. It discourages honest discussion. It leads a 456 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: moderate Muslim trap between the radicals and a state that's 457 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 4: unwilling to acknowledge the radical's influence. Now in this country, 458 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 4: is it embryonic or is it well seated? Now our 459 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 4: cities are not Europe yet, police still control, courts still function. 460 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 4: But the mechanism that took place in Europe takes place 461 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 4: everywhere here. Concentrated Islamic migration, weak, if any assimilation, cultural separation, 462 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 4: then social enforcement. That's what we call the slippery slope. 463 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: It begins with pressure on businesses that sell forbidden products. 464 00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 4: There they are protesting no liquor. No pork, really, huh. 465 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: I had some sausage this morning, and tonight I'll probably 466 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 4: have a little liquor too. And then you want to 467 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 4: discourage me and my two lienburgers, or you want to 468 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 4: discourage the young black man preaching out in front of 469 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 4: my local grocery store. Bite my ass. It's not going 470 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: to happen, because if we allow it to, it will 471 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 4: advance to informal Sharia compliance in public life. And then 472 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 4: finally you'll have our legal authorities adjusting their policies and 473 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: their policing strategies. They'll adjust everything for their own safety, 474 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 4: and that will in turn reinforce the perception that that 475 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 4: area is distinct and you don't go there. And if 476 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: you can't go there, that is a no goes on. 477 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 4: We don't have to follow this path, but we have 478 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: to talk about it. If we can't name a problem, 479 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 4: you can't solve it. I've just named it for you. 480 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 4: Now we need to solve it, and we solve it 481 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 4: by talking about it. Reject Shariah, protect speech and commerce 482 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 4: in every neighborhood. We must demand assimilation. That's the price 483 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 4: of becoming a citizen in this country. You must assimilate. Now, 484 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 4: if we wait until we degenerate as much as Paris 485 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 4: or Berllian or London have, then HM, our collapse will 486 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: be inevitable, just as it has been in Europe. The erosion, 487 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 4: of course, is gradual, but by the time the euphemism 488 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 4: replaces denial, the ground is shifted underneath us. Now, I 489 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 4: would imagine for most of you this conversation was not uncomfortable, 490 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 4: but I guarandemn to you that for a lot of 491 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 4: people that may hear it later on, or you may 492 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 4: tell them about they'll find it very uncomfortable. But once again, 493 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 4: this is the reality of the world that we live in. 494 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 4: This is the reality of mayors that actually say to 495 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 4: their constituents, I. 496 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: Mean, Hazbollah, you know, bombed up the embassy in Beirut 497 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: and including many Americans. So I just feel that's quite inappropriate. 498 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 6: You are an homophobe, and although you live here, I 499 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 6: want you to know why, as mayor, you are not 500 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 6: welcome here. And the day you move out of the 501 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 6: city over the day that I launched a parade celebrating 502 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 6: the fact that you moved out of the city because 503 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 6: you are not somebody who believes in coexistence. 504 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 4: Name the problem no go zones, and address it. I'll 505 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 4: be right back