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Speaker 2: For those who don't know, tone, give us your your

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Speaker 2: Skyline order. What do you go with? Three way light spaghetti,

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Speaker 2: two chili cheese sandwiches. Pay dude, slow it down, all right,

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Speaker 3: Give it to us again. Three Way Yeah Light spaghetti. Okay,

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Speaker 3: two chili cheese sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: All right? Playing, So do you do the light spaghetti

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Speaker 3: More juice, Oh, more juice that I could kind of

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Speaker 2: Three o'clock, sop it up before when it comes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now, last time I was at Skyline, which was last week, Uh,

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Speaker 3: That's disrespectful to even ask it.

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Speaker 2: I went to my favorite skyline on Sunday, the oak Skyline,

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Speaker 2: I've never seen mountains a cheese that high before. Incredible.

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Speaker 2: better way to celebrate National Chili Day than with some

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Speaker 2: Skyline Chili. At some point today. John Sheeran.

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Speaker 3: Covering the Bengals eight is E Sports is going to

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Speaker 3: join us at one o'clock today. We used eightes E

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Speaker 3: Sports mock Draft is our mock draft Monday this week? Yes,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to John about that and so much more.

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Speaker 3: And you want to talk about the theme of the

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Speaker 3: week Austin, and that's boots on the ground at the

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Speaker 3: NFL Combine. That's right for most people, for a lot

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Speaker 3: of people, anyone that's associated with the Bengals essentially pretty

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Speaker 3: much anybody who covers the NFL. Yes, they're at the

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Speaker 3: combine pretty much. So since not there, we'll do our

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Speaker 3: best to give you a feel of being at the combine.

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Speaker 3: Kegan Nickoson is there, Yeah, Bearcatgournal dot com. Dante Corleone

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Speaker 3: spoke yesterday, Jake Golday spoke yesterday. I know Joe Royer

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Speaker 3: get you up to speed with all things Combine and

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Speaker 3: the Bearcats with Keegan Nickoson. We'll also talking about the

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Speaker 3: Bearcats basketball team as well so shearon it one Nickoson

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Speaker 3: at two talkbacks after John Shearon that all comes up

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. What else do we got? We'll recap college

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Speaker 3: basketball from last night, the Norse Big winners on the

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Speaker 3: for nkyal.

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Speaker 2: If they would have lost to Cleveland State, we may

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Speaker 2: because if you're losing to those guys, you're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: But that's a good point, no doubt. Darren Horn's team

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Speaker 3: You know nku's next game at home, bring it Wright State,

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Speaker 2: And the words did Jeff Brantley bring in on.

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Speaker 3: The Xavier Musketeers last night fall on the road at Providence.

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Speaker 3: Thirty two point loss for Saint John's. A ten point

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Speaker 3: busy weekend ahead on Saturday, Kentucky host Vanderbilt, UC host

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Speaker 3: So we will talk college hoops later on this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: What about FC Cincinnati last night, Austin.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, I think they just scored again? Did

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Speaker 2: I see it correctly? Nine nil? That's correct against O

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Speaker 2: the CONCACAFF Champions Cup. Apparently O and M had some

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Speaker 3: Aggregate thirteen nothing. They advance in the Conka CAFF Champions

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Speaker 2: what type of player that Aaron Glenn, who, by the way,

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Speaker 3: what the national view of the Cincinnati Reds is right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm to go through some Major League Baseball lineup rankings

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Speaker 3: We'll dive into that today. We made mentioned yesterday of

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Speaker 3: Tarik's scuball and how he's approaching the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 2: just gosh, it sucks that he's a Pittsburgh pirate. Who

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Speaker 2: But I dislike the Cardinals because of the players. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Brewers, they're just annoying, just annoying, but you can't

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Speaker 2: The postseason history of just ten twelve years ago with

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Speaker 3: Did you see in the in the the skiing start

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Speaker 3: yesterday that Matt Olsen challenged the curveball No, And it

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's so. That's happened twice already in spring training.

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Speaker 3: think like the last nine batter challenges have been successful.

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Speaker 2: It might have been the Red Sox and the Pirates

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Speaker 2: whatever it was, they the first five challenges of the game.

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Speaker 2: The umpire was wrong. I think the first pitch of

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Speaker 2: But who do you think you are? I Am? If

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Speaker 2: Hey, Alexa, what's going on in the end.

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Speaker 2: Hi, indeed you kissed that baby. Goodbye? Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: Let's split those rocks out there. That's it split. How

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Speaker 3: Yep, welcome back since he three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: Okay, this player was being to size because he was

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Speaker 2: John Cruk a long time on ESPN with the Phillies

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Speaker 3: The latest from the combine. Based on what I'm seeing,

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Speaker 2: Now when you look at this, there are a couple

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Speaker 3: I did see from Crazy I saw from Friend of

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Speaker 3: Before one other thing on ruben Bain. I saw people

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Speaker 2: I think he's just a football player. Yeah, Like he

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I think that's kind of endearing

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Speaker 3: Now we heard Zach and Duke and talk about you know,

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Speaker 2: There was Al Golden met with the media for thirty

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Speaker 2: scheme and or more Actually is more about how the

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Speaker 2: scheme developed towards the end of last year and how

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Speaker 2: pieces can be added to that to maximize the scheme.

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Speaker 2: Here's two minutes of Al Golden.

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Speaker 6: Oh, we have to build This was the least amount

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Speaker 6: of pressure that I've that I've had in forever, and

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Speaker 6: by a long margin, the least amount of you know,

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Speaker 6: line stunts. So we made a lot of progress with that,

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Speaker 6: and a lot of it was you know, Barrett and

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Speaker 6: the night settling in and being able to call some

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Speaker 6: of those on the field, because it's hard to call

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Speaker 6: lin stunts just as a as a as a pre

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Speaker 6: snap call, it really is, because you're calling it in

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Speaker 6: your mind, you're envisioning one thing. But well, you know,

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Speaker 6: if the wys off in the and the tight tailbacks

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Speaker 6: over there, well, you know what, that's not a great

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Speaker 6: stunt against it. So those need to be called on

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Speaker 6: the grass. And I think we're gonna make such a

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Speaker 6: big uh And we made a lot of progress at

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Speaker 6: the end of last year with that. Those guys settled

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Speaker 6: in nicely for us, and again that's my fault. We

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Speaker 6: asked them to do more than we should have early on.

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Speaker 6: Those guys responded and we made progress there and hopefully

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Speaker 6: there's a nice starting point for us.

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Speaker 2: But we have to have a good offseason. You know,

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Speaker 2: we have to have a good off season.

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Speaker 6: We need we need everybody here and and focused in

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Speaker 6: and we need to be really clean and sharp.

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Speaker 2: You know, coming out of June.

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Speaker 5: Would you like to have one of those slot safety

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Speaker 5: star types that would unlock some where there?

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Speaker 2: It is the draft of free agency, though, Yeah, who

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Like, again, I'm a defensive coordinator, so I like toys,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like, I mean, who wouldn't

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Speaker 6: want to have somebody that's again, you need force multipliers, right,

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's what you need, right, you need you

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Speaker 6: need somebody in the defensive van room that can play

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Speaker 6: outside backer.

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Speaker 2: You need.

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Speaker 6: You know, you need linebackers that can play on and

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Speaker 6: off the line of scrimmage. You need a like you're saying,

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Speaker 6: you need that star or Nickel, whatever you want to

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Speaker 6: call them. You know, he's either got to come from

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Speaker 6: the corner room or the safety room. And and if

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Speaker 6: the guy can do both, well, man, you've got something.

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Speaker 6: And so yeah, we're looking for versatility. I love versatility

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Speaker 6: in our in our system, in our program, and especially

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Speaker 6: if you can do it without substitution. That's what makes

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Speaker 6: you dangerous. And you know, we'll see you know where

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Speaker 6: we go here, uh in terms of identifying those things.

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Speaker 6: But you have complete faith in in uh In Zach

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Speaker 6: and Duke and what we're going to acquire here in

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Speaker 6: the next you know, next month and then obviously three months.

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Speaker 3: All right, the term force multiplier, all right, someone that's

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Speaker 3: going to help the effectiveness of the group and be

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Speaker 3: able to do so in multiple facets. I think that's

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Speaker 3: fascinating and really good stuff there from Al Golden. But

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Speaker 3: the idea that I think sticks with me is the

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Speaker 3: ability to have a player on the field and not

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Speaker 3: have to sub and that player can be used in

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Speaker 3: multiple ways, right if that player needs to drop in coverage,

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Speaker 3: if that player needs to play the run, if that

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Speaker 3: player needs to get after the quarterback, if they need

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Speaker 3: to line up as a linebacker, if they need to

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Speaker 3: line up and rush the passer.

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Speaker 2: That's a force multiplayer.

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Speaker 3: The value of a player like that is incredible, and

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Speaker 3: you can find those players at every level. D lineman

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Speaker 3: that can drop, a linebacker that can play up, a

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Speaker 3: safety that can drop down into the box and apply pressure.

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Speaker 3: Those are the types of players that I think can

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Speaker 3: be a game changer for a defense. I think you

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Speaker 3: view some of the players in the top ten as that.

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Speaker 3: But also the ability to just kind of feel like

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Speaker 3: you can take the restraints off a little bit if

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Speaker 3: you're oult Golden and open up the playbook in year two.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a really good insight from him in

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Speaker 3: a brief amount of time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you'd think of like a nick emon warri.

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Speaker 2: I think that might have been the direction Charlie was

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Speaker 2: coming from with that question. And you know, it obviously

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Speaker 2: makes sense. It's safety, but he also talked about it

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Speaker 2: and you mentioned it as well. Without having to sub

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Speaker 2: that can make you a dangerous defense. Yep. How many

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Speaker 2: time you're able to do that? Huge?

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Speaker 3: How many times we talked about twelve personnel last year

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Speaker 3: and different personnel groupings where you force the defense's hand.

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Speaker 3: How are you gonna play it? You're gonna are you

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Speaker 3: gonna sub or are you going to stay with with

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Speaker 3: heavy personnel? Like, if you've got force multiplier, it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 3: You're good either way.

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Speaker 2: And there was there was one team who really went

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Speaker 2: opposite of the rest of the group, and that was

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Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks. Yes, with the way that they would

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Speaker 2: approach those twelve and thirteen personnel groupings because they had

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Speaker 2: that flexibility. By the way, the official Google definition of

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Speaker 2: a force multiplier oh is a factor, tool or tactic

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Speaker 2: that significantly increases the effectiveness, combat power, or productivity of

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Speaker 2: a person or group without necessarily increasing its size. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so there you go. And by the way, Duke Tobin

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Speaker 2: has said this, Zach Taylor has said this, now Al

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Speaker 2: Golden has said this. All three of those guys kind

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Speaker 2: of unprompted in their own way dropped force multiplier ooh

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Speaker 2: on the media in these conversations. We are continuing to

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Speaker 2: now kind of clarify.

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Speaker 3: The vision for the Bengals this offseason, and I like

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Speaker 3: the alignment at least in talking that they all have.

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Speaker 3: By the way, a couple of other things from the

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Speaker 3: combine here players that we've talked about to the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Caleb Downs was asked about the teams he has met with.

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Speaker 3: He said, quote, I met with a lot of teams.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going into individuals. Okay, all right, I don't

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Speaker 3: mind that.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: And this from Jermad McCoy, the Tennessee corner that tore

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Speaker 3: his ACL and missed all last season, he's not going

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Speaker 3: to work out at the Combine because he said, quote,

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Speaker 3: my body doesn't feel ready. Oh, Austin, he tore his

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Speaker 3: ACL four hundred and fifty days ago. That to me

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Speaker 3: would be a little concerning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: Still not go ahead and take him off the board.

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Speaker 3: Take him off the board right now. I'm good with that.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and take him off the ward. Mad McCoy

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Speaker 2: officially off often and eyes big board. Peter Woods from

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Speaker 2: Clemson will not work out today at the Combine. Rubin

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Speaker 2: Bain also not working out. Peter Woods will go full

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Speaker 2: at the Clemson Pro Day, which is coming up on

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Speaker 2: March the twelfth, that is the day after free agency begins,

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Speaker 2: but on field workouts begins today for the other defensive

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Speaker 2: linemen and linebackers. Rvel Reese is doing everything yep at

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Speaker 2: the Combine. Shout out to him, force multiplier. He would

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Speaker 2: be a force multiplier without any shadow of a day,

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Speaker 2: without a doubt he drops. Good Lord.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep you updated with latest happenings at the NFL Combine.

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Speaker 3: Also some quarterback projections that came out yesterday. And there's

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Speaker 3: a couple names on this list that would be with

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Speaker 3: new teams that I think would be an interesting fit.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about a couple of those. One of them

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Speaker 3: is not Joe Burrow. We know where Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 3: and what he's capable of, but perhaps the MAFC North

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Speaker 3: teams as well. We'll dive into that next. On the

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Speaker 3: Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station

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Speaker 3: are you running for office.

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Speaker 1: And Sincy three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Ton, it looks like there's a new quarterback on the market. Oh,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of NFL breaking news during the break.

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Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Colts and quarterback Anthony Richardson have agreed in

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Speaker 2: a meeting this morning that a fresh start would be

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Speaker 2: beneficial for both. Okay, the two sides will look to

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Speaker 2: find a trade partner for the twenty twenty three number

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Speaker 2: four overall pick, Anthony Richardson still just twenty three years old.

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Speaker 3: You know what I think is interesting is that would

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Speaker 3: be like, if I'm a quarterback needy team that's the

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Speaker 3: ultimate by low opportunity, sure, huge upside, a lot of

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Speaker 3: athleticism didn't pan out in Indy, I would be willing

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Speaker 3: to take a shot. If I was a team that

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Speaker 3: is in need of a quarterback, I would look at

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Sure. I also saw a report that Derek Carr might

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Speaker 2: not be done. I saw that as well. Now, what's

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Speaker 2: interesting injury.

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Speaker 3: ESPN kind of predicted their quarterbacks for next year, and

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of quarterbacks we know where they're going

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Speaker 3: to be the starter at but there's some interesting names

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Speaker 3: on this list. The Cleveland Browns. I had not thought about.

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Speaker 3: This was Seth Water ESPN dot com. He predicts the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six starter for the Cleveland Browns to be

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. What would you make of Kyler Murray as

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Speaker 3: a Brown?

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Speaker 2: Like? Are you all?

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Speaker 3: Are you done with Kyler Murray in his time in

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Speaker 3: Arizona Because when he was playing well, there's very few

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Speaker 3: that can match his skill set in the NFL it

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Speaker 3: went south in a hurry in Arizona. Would Kyler Murray

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Speaker 3: be an upgrade for the Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Browns, Yes, because it's hard to not upgrade from what

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Speaker 2: they had in their position. And I think Todd Monkin

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Speaker 2: and his style of offense and his ability to kind

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Speaker 2: of build around a unique skill set. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is Kyler Murray, but they're cut from the

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Speaker 2: same cloth in terms of that rare athleticism, So I

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Speaker 2: think that would make sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, other names on this list. The Falcons would would

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Speaker 3: have Michael Pennox. The Arizona Cardinals, Jacoby Brissett would be

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Speaker 3: the starter. They're trying to get Arch Manning. Now there

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Speaker 3: are two teams that you don't really know if the

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Speaker 3: quarterback will be healthy to start the year. Kansas City

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Speaker 3: and Indy with what Daniel Jones went through, they have

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Speaker 3: Kansas City starting until Mahomes comes back, Marcus Mariota and

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Speaker 3: Indy starting. Gardner minshew, I think I have a didn't

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Speaker 3: he tear his acl He tore his a month? Gardner

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Speaker 3: tore his a month after Mahomes might be ready to go.

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Speaker 3: I have a I think I have a skyline bet

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Speaker 3: with Drew Wester Heidi that Patrick Mahomes will start the

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Speaker 3: regular season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I could see that. Yeah. By the way, do

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Speaker 2: they have Malik Willis on there anymore?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 2: They have Malik Willis predicted to the Dolphins now. I

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Speaker 2: saw Jordan Schultz reporting this morning that a lot of

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Speaker 2: teams are interested in Malik Willis, and the teams that

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Speaker 2: he's spoken to in Indianapolis believe him getting at least

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Speaker 2: thirty million a year is a foe gone conclusion. Malik

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Speaker 2: Willis with the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: I saw he's got the Jets as a spot for

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Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler to be a starter. Would you, if you're

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Speaker 3: the Jets, go to the Rattler or would you take

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Speaker 3: a chance on Anthony Richardson, I would go to rattler.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've for a very long time said that I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't walk across the street to see Anthony Richardson play.

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Speaker 3: I think he stinks what else is interesting to me?

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Speaker 3: Two things from dan Orlowsky today. One he said that

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Speaker 3: through the first five games he has studied of each

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Speaker 3: or maybe eight games him, sorry, eight games he studied

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Speaker 3: of each. He said Ty Simpson's film is way better

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Speaker 3: than Mendozas.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of people probably don't

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Speaker 2: disagree with that. Like number one, the level of competition

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Speaker 2: at times for Indiana, especially early in the season, I

650
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Speaker 2: get that. I think if you look at his tape

651
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Speaker 2: against Ohio State, that's probably what matters and carries more weight.

652
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Speaker 2: I look at his tape in the Big Ten Championship

653
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Speaker 2: in the playoff, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like against

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Speaker 2: those big time teams. So I don't I think there's

655
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Speaker 2: not a ton there athletically from Fernando Mendoza. I don't

656
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Speaker 2: know that he just is. He just blows you off

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Speaker 2: the screen with his physical traits. But I think he's

658
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Speaker 2: fundamentally sound and can operate an offense, Like you make

659
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Speaker 2: the joke of Kirk Cousins because maybe their personalities are similar,

660
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Speaker 2: but I think them as football players are similar as well.

661
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: They're not going to run around like crazy, They're not

662
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Speaker 2: crazy athletes. But I think you know, with the right

663
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Speaker 2: system and the right people, Banana Mendoza can be a

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Speaker 2: good NFL quarterback. I don't know that anybody is looking

665
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Speaker 2: at that guy thinking this is the next Tom Brady,

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Speaker 2: this is the next Peyton Manning one who was it?

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Speaker 2: Last week?

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Speaker 3: We did a the comparison earlier in the week and

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Speaker 3: somebody said Mendoza and compared him.

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Speaker 2: To Joe Burrow. Yeah, and that was I think that's

671
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Speaker 2: I think that's like a fundamentals thing, like when it

672
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Speaker 2: comes to I think Joe Burrow is the most fundamentally

673
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Speaker 2: sound quarterback in the NFL, and to you would be

674
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Speaker 2: able to answer this better and and break this down

675
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Speaker 2: better than just about anybody. But from the ground up,

676
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: feet work, footwork, legs, motion, all of it, I think

677
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Speaker 2: Burrow's the gold standard in the NFL. And I think

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Speaker 2: Mendoza has a good head start on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he's a guy you want to

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Speaker 3: talk about like nailing the interviews, he just says all

681
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Speaker 3: the right things. Sure, Like I think he will nail

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Speaker 3: his time in Indianapolis at the combine. The other one

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Speaker 3: I thought was interesting that Orlowsky brought up today. He

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Speaker 3: said that the Vikings should go all in to get

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers to Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I agree, where is a What is the more desirable

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Speaker 3: team if you're Aaron Rodgers? The Pittsburgh Steelers, who I

689
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: saw a report coming out of the Combine that they

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Speaker 3: are in talks with Jacksonville about Brian Thomas junior.

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Speaker 2: Is it.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota or is it Pittsburgh. If you're a quarterback, you're like,

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Speaker 3: all right, which team is set up to win?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming if Rogers does it, it's gonna be one

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Speaker 3: more year. Is that Minnesota with Jordan Addison and Justin

697
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: Jefferson and Aaron Jones Or is that in Pittsburgh? Hopkinson too, Yeah, Hockinson,

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Speaker 3: it feels like Minnesota, especially being indoors at home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And he got Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think I kind of like that. Detroit's deef has

701
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: some turnover. Green Bay has some turnover, especially their a

702
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator is gone in Jeff Hafley. Chicago has some turnover.

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Speaker 2: We talked about Tremaine Edmonds. I mean every team has turnover.

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Speaker 2: I get it. That's a division that feels winnable. I

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Speaker 2: do think there's something to the idea of beating the

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Speaker 2: Packers that Aaron Rodgers would like. I don't know if he.

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Speaker 2: I think some said that some of the assistant coaches

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Speaker 2: that McCarthy has hired, Aaron Rodgers doesn't necessarily see eye

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Speaker 2: to eye with. And oh, by the way, Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 2: who operates this offense that Aaron could absolutely operate as

711
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: elite communicator, have been an elite ability to develop quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: except for JJ McCarthy because he's horrible. But like I've

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Speaker 2: said from the beginning, that makes sense. I heard someone

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Speaker 2: say this, porting Malik Willis would.

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Speaker 3: Make sense in Minnesota if you were Minnesota and you

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Speaker 3: go to the veteran route, because maybe you still, for

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Speaker 3: whatever reason, believe in JJ McCarthy. But it's not going

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Speaker 3: to be this year. Does Aaron Rodgers or Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 3: do more for you at this point in their careers?

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Speaker 2: Hmmm? Because can I say Joe Flacco, sure? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I almost feel like that makes more sense, yeah, than

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Speaker 2: either of those two guys. But I guess I would

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Speaker 2: lean Rogers just because he played last year and was

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Speaker 2: he was fine, but he just keeps getting banged up too.

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Speaker 2: It's the Risks or the wag or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Which team between the Vikings and the Steelers. Do you

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Speaker 3: think have more force multipliers?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Minnesota? Okay, all right, Kevin O'Connell's a force multiplayer. Okay,

729
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Speaker 2: you don't think they have those in Pittsburgh. No, you

730
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Speaker 2: don't think Mike McCarthy is a force multiplier. I think

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Speaker 2: he is fair enough. I think he can be.

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Speaker 3: We need to break I like Mike McCarthy. We need

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Speaker 3: to wrap up our number one. We'll do so when

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Speaker 3: we get back. John Shearon, a is E Sports, will

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Speaker 3: join us at one o'clock as well. We'll keep the

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Speaker 3: NFL team rolling. We got to talk today. We'll do

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Speaker 3: so as well with Keegan Nickoson about Brendan soarsby college hoops,

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Speaker 3: the combine, and we've got Major League Baseball to discuss

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Speaker 3: as well. All ahead on the Home of the Bengals

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Speaker 3: who joins us at the top of our number two

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Speaker 3: mention this earlier in the show, and we will dive

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Speaker 3: into this much more in detail with Keegan Nickoson when

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Speaker 3: he joins us at two o'clock. But Brendan Soorsby is

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Speaker 3: being sued by the University of Cincinnati this in federal court,

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Speaker 3: alleging Soorsby's breach of his NIL contract with the Bearcats

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Speaker 3: when he is refusing to pay a one million dollar exit.

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Speaker 2: Fee after transferring to Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: It is one million in liquidated damages, which the school

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Speaker 3: said Sworsby was contractually obligated to pay within thirty days

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Speaker 3: of transferring. In the complaint, the uh UC attorneys and

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Speaker 3: said that Sworsby was advised to refuse paying the university

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Speaker 3: by his agency in anything. It said this in a

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Speaker 3: statement from the University of Cincinnati. In his lucrative NIL

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Speaker 3: agreement with Cincinnati Athletics, Brendan Soorsby committed to stay and

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Speaker 3: play for two seasons as a proud bear Cat representative.

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Speaker 3: He also agreed that if he left the university before

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Speaker 3: that time, he would pay the university a specific amount

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Speaker 3: for the substantial harm that this breach would cause. That

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Speaker 3: to me, Austin is pretty cut and dry. If you

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Speaker 3: signed that agreement. What legs do Sworsby and his legal

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Speaker 3: team have to stand on here?

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Speaker 2: I don't really know. I mean, their statement basically says, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you see, I had him eight hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars for this revenue share structure, and why would

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Speaker 2: they try to recover from that because he was here?

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Speaker 2: But you see saying, well it was a two year deal,

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Speaker 2: right I just so because you left after the first year,

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Speaker 2: you don't get to keep that money, right Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem like like he's Their statement basically says, the

786
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Speaker 2: money the university seeks to recover from Soresby is nothing

787
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Speaker 2: more than an ad and lawful penalty under Ohio law.

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Speaker 2: Because you see has chosen to pursue this course of action,

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Speaker 2: Brendan will aggressively defend the lawsuit pursue any and all

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Speaker 2: damages he encourags as a result of it. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel like this is in favor of Soworsby, right Like,

792
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Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's gonna lean in that direction.

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Speaker 3: The only this is Soorsby's agency. This this was in

794
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Speaker 3: the time to the twenty twenty five season. He generated

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Speaker 3: millions in value for the program. Attempting to recover those

796
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Speaker 3: funds now sends the wrong message to current future student

797
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 3: athletes and risk damaging the long term credibility of UC football.

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Speaker 3: This is further disappointment he done that. This is further

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Speaker 3: disappointing given that Brennan parted ways with you seeing what

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Speaker 3: was a meech mutually agreed manner. The money the university

801
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Speaker 3: seeks to recover is nothing more than an unlawful.

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Speaker 2: Penalty mutually agreeable manner. Yeah, that I think you're probably

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Speaker 2: the buzzwords. You know that it's gonna have to find

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Speaker 2: how this happens. Like, was there you got to know

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Speaker 2: the language of the contract. I guess that basically says

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Speaker 2: if you leave, we get this money. Correct. And if

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Speaker 2: he signed that, then he screwed. I mean, you know

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Speaker 2: we've seen this before. Who was it the quarterback from Washington, Well,

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Speaker 2: the Duke quarterback, Well, he took him to Courton one, right,

810
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Speaker 2: but the Desmond Williams, the guy from Washington. Ye, signs

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Speaker 2: a deal and then like two weeks later, it's like,

812
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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, I'm leaving and they're like, no, you

813
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Speaker 2: aren't correct. You signed this deal. This is an ironclad deal.

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Speaker 2: You are not getting out of this now. I would

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Speaker 2: assume that the Bearcats are smart enough to know when

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Speaker 2: putting this contract together that he's probably gonna try to leave,

817
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Speaker 2: and if he does, that's probably why this exists.

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Speaker 3: Correct And like you said, if he signed the contract,

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Speaker 3: that's legally binding. Now, some would argue that he didn't

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Speaker 3: play the full season, that he stopped playing as the

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Speaker 3: month of November started. Some argue he didn't play in

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Speaker 3: the Bowl game.

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Speaker 5: But this is.

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Speaker 3: In the world of nil, where it feels like players

825
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Speaker 3: have all the power. This is a way for the

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Speaker 3: university to try to have some power. Say, Okay, we

827
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Speaker 3: are willing to pay you a lot of money, but

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Speaker 3: but you are contractually obligated to finish your time here

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Speaker 3: and if not, then you pay us the fee. Now,

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Speaker 3: could someone at Texas Tech pony up and pay that

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Speaker 3: one million dollars?

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Speaker 2: Probably?

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Speaker 3: But I don't have a problem here Austin with what

834
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Speaker 3: you see is doing and going after money that they

835
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Speaker 3: are owed. No million dollars, million dollars, you cut it,

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Speaker 3: you're owed, dot the contract was breached, and get you

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Speaker 3: another player. I was gonna saying, it can make you,

838
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Speaker 3: gets you a couple of really good players. Correct, correct,

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Speaker 3: So we'll see how it plays out. We'll see what

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Speaker 3: Kegan Nickoson has to say about it. But first from

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Speaker 3: it his E Sports covering the Bengals. John Sheeran is

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Speaker 3: next on this. I wonder if he has thoughts on

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