1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Hi, It's Brian Thomas hosted the fifty five CARSY Morning Show. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm very happy Monday to you. I know you're thinking, well, 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: it's time for money money with Brian James. We normally 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: do it at this time, but no, an interesting and 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: positive development this morning. Holly has returned to the fifty 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: five KRCY Morning Show. And I think all of my 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: listening audience is pretty darn familiar with who Holly is, 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: but to the extent you're not. It was August the 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: last year. We all recall the brutal, brutal beat down, 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: the melee that happened in downtown Cincinnati. People are being 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: prosecuted for that, but the one most awful and heinous 12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: reality about that was the video of seeing Holly get 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: cold cocked in the face. Holly, welcome back to the 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: morning show. It's a terrific time to have you on 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: considering the legislation it's being proposed in Ohio in your name. 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: But let me start by asking you how are you doing. 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: I know you suffered some serious injuries in that I 18 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: just wanted to get an update on your condition. 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you so much. I'm doing a lot better. 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: I still you know, I have some permanent brain damage, 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: and I had some neurological issues that are probably going 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: to be permanent as well. I know, for the past 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: i want to say, eight months, at least three to 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: five times a week, I've been going to different doctors, specialists, 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: physical therapists, everything. I still, you know, suffer from migraines 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: and chronic fatigue and just you know, put my words together, 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: so memory issues. But I'm just I'm so glad to 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: be alive, and I'm just glad to finally be healing 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: and still be able to kind of advocate and bring 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: awareness to the reality of what happened to me was 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: so preventable, and I think a lot of the crimes, 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: violent heinous crimes and murders are also preventable, and so 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: with Holly's law, I think other lawmakers really saw that 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: and it kind of put a spotlight on, hey, what's 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: going on, you know, especially not just Cincinnati, but I 36 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: think it's an epidemic going on around the country where 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: you know, these violent criminals who repeatedly are you know, 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: their rapists, and they're robbing people at gunpoint and all 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: this stuff, and they're being out with no bond or 40 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: maybe a three hundred dollars bond and then while they're out, 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: you know, on bond, a week later they go and 42 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: do the same thing, and then it's like nobody is 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: really doing anything about it, and a lot of these 44 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: cities holding the judges accountable. Right, So that's kind of 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: been my thing I've been screaming from the rooftops, is 46 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: why why were these people out? Why did this happen? 47 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: Not just to me, but why is it still happening 48 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: all the time? Because if you go to Hamilton County, 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: I think Clerk of Courts or whatever public record, look 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: at these people's record. Not one of them was the 51 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: first time offender, and there was one guy who had 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: forty had been arrested forty two times for different things, 53 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: and almost all of them have a violent of records. 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: So that just comes to show that, you know, if 55 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: the judges were doing their job, and I'm not saying 56 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: all judges don't, but these specific judges putting everyone's life 57 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: at risk. You know, I look at it as they're 58 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: playing Russian Roulette with the innocent people, our lives, our 59 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: loved ones, and we didn't sign up for this, and 60 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: yet we had no voice, and we had no say before, 61 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: and now we have a say because I think so 62 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: many people were outraged and they're like, no, no, no, no, 63 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: you know, let's let's let's put an end to this, 64 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: let's figure out how So I think Holley's Act is 65 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: is going to be the first step in the right 66 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: direction of accountability. 67 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Well, one way of getting at the judges. And I 68 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: think Holly's Act does just that, which it allows you, 69 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: Ohio Attorney General to appeal a judge's decision if the 70 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: bail seems too low, so the ag can independently look 71 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: at it. And I mean nobody else has a position 72 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: other than the prosecutor make an argument in front of 73 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: a judge. And of course if it's a low bail, 74 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: they maybe have ignored the prosecutor's request for a high 75 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: bond or no bond. Then enter the Attorney General who 76 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: can appeal that decision. So we do have some potential 77 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: relief on that in this bill. 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, which I'm like, oh, that gives me goosebumps. Now, 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: I truly believe that's going to save so many people's lives, 80 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm not just being dramatic about it. 81 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: This truly, I mean these people are. They're murderers, and 82 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: they're the sudug and criminals, joined the drive buys and 83 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: everything else. And you know, I think that there should 84 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: be someone higher up than the judge saying, hey, wait 85 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: a minute, no, this person has proven that they don't 86 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: play well with others. They can't be functioning members of society. 87 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: They don't get to go out well and you know, 88 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 2: go hurt more people while they're also a waiting trial 89 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: for already hurting someone. So you know, I'm just glad 90 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: that now somebody else with a voice of reason can 91 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: be like, no, they're going to sit in jail and 92 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: they're not going to keeping violent, you know, putting other 93 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: people's lives at risk or killing them or whatever. So 94 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: this is this is exciting. I think it's a we 95 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: should all be very excited about this. And I d 96 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: J swearing Jen is the one. He's the lawmaker, who 97 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: the state representative who really has just kind of put 98 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: it all together and put himself out there and really 99 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: has advocated hard for this. So I just want to 100 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: say thank you to him and everyone. You know, if 101 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: you want the bill to go through and you want 102 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: your children to be safe, please call and say tell 103 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: them your story if something has happened to you or 104 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: you know, if I just think the more that we 105 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: talk about it and the more that we call and say, hey, 106 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: this is awesome, let's do this, the easier it'll be 107 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: to pass it. Well. 108 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Included in addition to the ability of the Attorney General 109 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: to appeal, which I think will put some pressure on 110 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: the judge during the initial bond hearing to maybe set 111 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: a better bond level, knowing full well that the AG 112 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: may come in and call them out, which would reveal 113 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: them to be a low bond type of judge, which 114 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: could impact them in an election. There's an idea. But 115 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: this also requires the bond payment to go up from 116 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: the ten percent. It's usually like, okay, it's one thousand 117 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: dollars and they pay up ten percent and that's sufficient. 118 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: So now it's going to go up to twenty five percent. 119 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: That's another component of Holly's Act that will require a 120 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: little bit more stake in the action for the defendant 121 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: in the courtroom. 122 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, definitely a spotlight on the judges for sure. 123 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I do think that instead of 124 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: ten percent, twenty five percent is going to be better. 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: And I think they're also going to make it a 126 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: little bit harder just on you know, the criminal. I 127 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: was shown a piece of paper, and I was outraged 128 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: by this, But I guess in most courts when someone's arrested, 129 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: they have this little half sheet piece of paper they 130 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: write down their name, address, phone number. It's basically an 131 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: IOU saying yeah, sure, I'll give you your money, you're ten 132 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: percent and here's my address. So a lot of these 133 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: people are flight risks and they don't show up for court, 134 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: and they're out there killing people and robbing them, you know. 135 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: And so now they're going to change some of the 136 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: way that that's done too, and really make sure that 137 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: this person's going to come back to court. Oh. 138 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: I hate to laugh because this is not a laughing topic. 139 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: But one of the reasons you have a bond is 140 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: because of flight risk. You know, if the more of 141 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: a flight risk you are, the higher the bond should be, 142 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: so you're guaranteed to get it back in court. But 143 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: the bill also strengthens the consequences for repeat failures, so 144 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: it addresses that as well. And the other thing. And 145 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, you know, to the extent there's going to 146 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: be some sort of you know litigation or you know, 147 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: claims of unconstitutionality. I like the concept. Maybe the devil's 148 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: in the details, but under the bill, nonprofits like the 149 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: Bail Project are going to be limited in their ability 150 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: to come in, you know, sort of as a white 151 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: knight and pay the bond for the defendant that's standing 152 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: in the courtroom. 153 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, I think that that is I'm glad 154 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: you brought that up too. So I think all of 155 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: these things together are going to really strengthen it, because 156 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: I think if it was just one little piece of 157 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: the bill that they're trying to pass, it wouldn't make 158 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: that much of a difference. But I think all of 159 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: these things compiled and I think they looked into the 160 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: future and said, okay, how are they going to try 161 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: and find loopholes? Let's shut that down. And this is 162 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: one of the ways to also shut that down. 163 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Indeed, So where do you know where it is in process? 164 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to put you on this on the 165 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: Is it a final, solidified legislation? Are they still hammering 166 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: out the details of it? Where are we Because I 167 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: certainly want my listeners to get in touch with their 168 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: elected officials in Ohiland, get them to push this through, Holly. 169 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: So, I think we're still in the beginning stages from 170 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: what I'm told, and again I am not a lawyer, lawmaker, 171 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: none of the understood normal folk. But from what I'm told, 172 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 2: it's still in the beginning stages. They're still kind of 173 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: working out some of the details, you know, because like 174 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: you said, there are people trying to already fight it 175 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: and say, well, this is unconstitutional. They're innocent until proven guilty. 176 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: Well yeah, first time offenders, of course, in anybody innocent 177 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: to sorry, innocent until proven guilty. Let me start over. 178 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: But if you have a proven track record that you 179 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: are a violent repeat offender, that you know you constantly 180 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: are doing these things, well you have different rights. I'm 181 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: sorry you don't have the same right because you've proven 182 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: that you cannot be a functioning member of society. Right. 183 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, that's a component of typical bond discussions. You know, 184 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: look at the record. Are they a recidivous defender. That's 185 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: one of the reasons you have a high bond in 186 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: the first place, and judges just ignored the reality of that. 187 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: And look where we are. We get Holly beaten down 188 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: by a recidivous person. Holly, I am glad you're feeling better. 189 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: You know what. 190 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you had to be the victim that 191 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: brought this so much to people's attention, but your sacrifice 192 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: may end up helping so many people. So keep up 193 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: the great work. And I'll just add my listeners in 194 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: a request to pray for your improved health and will 195 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: wait for the passage of this bill. I have a 196 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: strong belief that it will get through. 197 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, hopefully sooner than later. 198 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Get in touch with the representatives, the officials, and most notably, 199 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: will give props a DJ swearing gin for bringing this up. Holly, 200 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time today, and again, 201 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: prayers for your good health.