1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Now your host Ken Brew on news radio seven hundred 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: WLW man, I wish you would rain. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I don't know about you, But 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: I don't know if my lawn's ever going to grow 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: because I just haven't seen any rain. There's been so 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: much rain here in Ohio. I swear I was out 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: on I seventy one a couple of days ago. I 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: saw a guy with a big boat looking for two 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: of everything. I have never seen so much rain in 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: my life. But here we are at nice and dry 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: inside today because it's raining again, and we're trying to 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: make sense of sometimes a senseless world, and of course 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: the things that we're trying to make sense or out 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: of our control. But we can always look to sages, 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: we can always look to soothsayers. We can always look 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: to people that have a greater vision than us mere mortals, 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: and then have that ability to put those great visions 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: into words. And that's who my next guest is. Because 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: when all hell broke loose and Iran last week, I said, 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: I got to get Kennon Spivak on the phone. He 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: is with real clear Politics, among other places, He's been 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: on my show a lot because he simply speaks logic 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: and truth, and I wanted to get him on in 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: light of what's transpiring here in the world in these 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. And Kennon Spivak, how are you 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: on this glorious Saturday. 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: I am great, I'm dry, but the winds where I 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: am are out of control. 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: Everybody's got a problem with the weather. Have you noticed that? 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: And you know, the the green people want to tell 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: us it's global warming, and other people want to say, well, 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: it's the exhaust from cars and all that. I've got 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: to believe, like maybe seven, eight, nine hundred years ago, 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: when we were just a thought in one of our 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: great great great great great grandparents' minds, they had the 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: same problems to put up with, don't you think that? 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to blame it on mother nature. But 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: you can't blame it on mother nature anymore, because that's 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: probably politically incorrect. 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: Yes, you would. You would have to then create a 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: whole new gender. Look endless wars if you and I 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: have lived through several of them. Trump doesn't want endless wars. 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: This does not seem like an endless war. This seems 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: like a superior force over there between the United States 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: and Israel. It would appear that Iran has been neutered 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: a lot, but yet it will go on because it's 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: not conventional warfare that's going on over there. Just give 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: me your sense if you think Trump has a clear 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: vision as to what his mission is over there, and 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: whether or not you think this thing will be over 51 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: in weeks and not months. 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: I think he does have a clear vision. I think 53 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: he's been pretty direct, much more so than we're accustomed 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: to from presidents. When he said that he saw this 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: as a four or five five week war, maybe a 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: little bit more. I frankly think it's going to be 57 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: shorter than a four or five week war. The only 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: thing he said that raised any concern was when he 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: acknowledged that was the possibility of. 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: Boots on the ground. 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: But I think that's more about scaring the Iranians than 62 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: it is about any realistic prospect for boots on the ground. 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: We're not trying to take control of Iran. We're not 64 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: going to make the mistakes we made in Iraq. Our 65 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 3: military capabilities today are far superior to what they were 66 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: ten or twenty years ago. Our ability to target the 67 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: delivery of munitions together with Israel. We're literally destroying the 68 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: Iranian war machine, the Revolutionary Guard, their political infrastructure, and 69 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: very importantly, their missiles, missile launchers, missile supplies, and nuclear program. 70 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: I don't see a need for this to go on 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: for more than another few weeks. But I do think 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: it will go on for another few weeks unless Trump 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: gets his unconditional surrenders. 74 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: That's his latest stated goal, and he wants a hand 75 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: into whomever is put in charge of that country. It 76 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: worked out, I guess in Venezuela. I'm not sure that 77 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: you're going to get the same kind of success in Iran, 78 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: which has been run for almost fifty years by these 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: radical clerics. That could be a difficult thing to do. 80 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 2: The radical clerics are on the run, there's no question 81 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: about it. I think he's banking a lot on the 82 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: you know, the common everyday people in Tehran and the 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: surrounding areas of Tehran to rise up and take control 84 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: of the country. But somebody's got to be in charge. 85 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: Right right, Well, let's look at what can go wrong. 86 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: I don't think what's going to go wrong is that 87 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: we will not achieve a many, many year setback to 88 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: Iran's proxy wars in the Middle East, to its sponsorship 89 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: of terrorism, and to its own military build up. I 90 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: don't think that's going to go wrong. What could go 91 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: wrong is what comes next, and the hope or expectation 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: that it will be the NCRI, which is this external 93 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: force to try to bring back democracy to Iran. Whether 94 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: it's excuse me raise a pleave the oldest son of 95 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: the former Shah, who I don't see why the Iranian 96 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: people would want him or someone else, that's possible. Whether 97 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: it's a protracted period of civil war and civil disarray, 98 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: I think that's also very possible. So I don't know 99 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: that the US will be able to achieve a productive, 100 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: peaceful Iran in the near term. I'm very certain that 101 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: we'll be able to achieve a defanged Iran no longer 102 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: capable of that. It's sporting terrorism, and I'm okay with that, 103 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 3: though I'd rather we also have a peaceful or wrong. 104 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: I often think that most of this stuff that occurs 105 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: with Trump, and I'm not disagreeing with the motives, they're 106 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: all about China. Eighty three percent of Iran's exports go 107 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: to China. Iranian oil makes up about thirteen percent of 108 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: what China consumes. So I think there's probably something in 109 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: the works here with China and for that matter, Russia, 110 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: because we keep hearing they're going to be these escort 111 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: ships through the straight of horm moves that will allow 112 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: to get tankers out with oil. But that hasn't happened yet. 113 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: The United States said, yeah, it's a possibility, but no, 114 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: you know, Toronto is striking these ships in the streets, 115 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: but they're really putting the squeeze on Russia and to 116 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: a lesser extent, China. I think part of the calculation 117 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: here for Trump is, look, I've got to figure out 118 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: how to take on China one way or the other. 119 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: I'd rather do it by my own proxy, which is 120 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: this fight with Iran. Am I off on a ledge 121 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 2: here and not knowing where I'm going? Or would you 122 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: agree with any of that? 123 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: Now, I'm going to say this. 124 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: I think you're more strategic, perhaps than Trump is being, 125 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: in that this is a expected and positive consequence. I 126 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: don't think it's a main purpose of what he's doing. 127 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: I think the main purpose is the ostensible purpose of 128 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: defanging Iran. But I think you're completely right, and let's 129 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: go with and beyond what you've said. Both Russia and 130 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: China get oil from Iran. Both Russia and China have 131 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: provided military and other support to Iran, and as happened 132 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: in Venezuela, showing the basically the complete inferiority of Russian 133 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: and Chinese military capabilities is a good thing for the 134 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: US when countries are trying to decide who to a ligne. 135 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: Disrupting Chinese manufacturing in Chinese supplies is good for other 136 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: US objectives. Showing China what might happen if they were 137 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: to attack Taiwan is good for the US. I think 138 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: all these things are good, and I think you're completely right, 139 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: but I don't think it was a core. 140 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: Objective for what we're doing. 141 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: There's political fallout from everything, and there will be from this. 142 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: The economy is there's no way around it. It took 143 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: it on the chin this week on a number of 144 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: different fronts, and whether we're at war or we're at peace, 145 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: people look at their wallets and they're saying, this week, 146 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: what the hell's this? Casoline is up thirty forty cents. 147 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we're almost at your prices out there in California, 148 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: and you've got what's going on with prices rising and 149 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: in some cases not coming down with groceries. The overall 150 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: cost of living is better, but it's not, I think 151 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 2: to the average guy appreciable better. We'll see some tax 152 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: cuts this year that we didn't see last year. We'll 153 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: see some reimbursements that we didn't see the last couple 154 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: of years. But we've got some political things going on 155 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: in this country that are being affected by this war. 156 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: And if Trump and the Republicans don't get their arms 157 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: around the economy, they're in trouble. Sixty members of Congress 158 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: not seeking reelection, thirteen senators, fifty three in the House, 159 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: and an overwhelming number of those are from the GOP 160 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: side of things. They Trump almost has to get this 161 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: thing wrapped up in weeks so it doesn't drag into 162 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: the summer, when you know, people are out trying to 163 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: live their lives in vacation and make up for all 164 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: the work they had to do in the winter time. 165 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: He's got to get his arms around this quickly, doesn't he. 166 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, when I look at the American people, 167 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: I'm reminded of some of the oldest of the Superman 168 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: movies where Superman rescues babies. He saves the world, and 169 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: then he makes one mistake and all the people simply 170 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: turn on him and want him to go away. And 171 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: I think the American people too much are like that. 172 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: If gas prices rise for a week or two, they 173 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: can't think passed it to four or six weeks. The 174 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 3: strength that a lot of our enemies have is how 175 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: far forward they look in their perspective. In the Middle East, 176 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: people don't think in terms of a week or two weeks. 177 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: They think in terms of multiple generations, and it is 178 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: their strength and our weakness. 179 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 4: Gas prices have risen. 180 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: And they're going to continue to stay up until security 181 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: is restored in the Middle East. I don't think this 182 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 3: notion of the US Navy escorting ships to the straits 183 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: of her moods would work because insurance companies are not 184 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: going to restore coverage, and even to the extent they do, 185 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: it won't be at pre war prices, and it's just 186 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: not going to work. It may slightly increase the oil supply, 187 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 3: but not to any significant degree. For so long as 188 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: China and Russia are cut off from oil coming from Iran, 189 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: they're going to have to find supplies elsewhere. Prices are 190 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: going to rise. When energy prices rise, all prices rise, 191 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: and this price increase is going to continue for the 192 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: next several weeks. But to this point, and to your point, 193 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: it's a reason why, a political reason, why not a 194 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: military reason that Trump's got to bring this war to 195 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: an end in this four to six week period he 196 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: talked about, or it will run into the mid terms 197 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: and he'll be spending the next two years fighting impeachment. 198 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: Well, maybe the reason why these other countries have more 199 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: forward thinking and are less wrapped up in weeks and 200 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: things generationally is because they don't have financial strategists in 201 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: four oh one k plans. That could be a reason, right. 202 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: They also don't have democracies for the most part. Putting 203 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: aside the. 204 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: Reasons, I do wish, and it's implicit in what I 205 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 3: said before, I do wish that Americans they don't have 206 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 3: to think in terms of ten generations. I wish they 207 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: could think in terms of six months and one year 208 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: and two years, But we really don't. Corporate earnings are 209 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: measured quarter by quarter. Inflation and violence in Minneapolis is measured, 210 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: if not day to day, then week to week. And 211 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: as president of the United States, as the leader of 212 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: a party in a democracy, he does have to make 213 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: decisions with both eyes on the political consequences. And it's 214 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: our weakness, but democracy is our strength, Kenn. 215 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: It'spinback, our guest. You can find a bit RealClearPolitics dot 216 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: com and other places as well. Christynohim had to go. 217 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: She was becoming the show, and from what I can tell, 218 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: she lied in front of Congress the other day about 219 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: what the president signed off on for this grand advertising 220 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 2: scheme that she had. Look. I think she was a 221 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: rising star before Trump was elected, but she turned out 222 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: to be more of a meteor rite and flamed out. 223 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: But there's no question about it. She had to go. 224 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: That was where Trump got his biggest win so far, 225 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: in securing the border and trying to get some of 226 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: these thugs from other countries out of our country. But 227 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: with her at the front, she became the headline. So 228 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm not sorry to see her go. I think no 229 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: pun intended. She made her own bed and now she's 230 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: got to lie in it. How do you feel about that? 231 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: I agree. 232 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: We've talked about Christy nomes inflammatory and I think ill 233 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: conceived verbiage. She was premature in this thing about domestic terrorism. 234 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: She's been all about photo ops. This notion that she's 235 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: the ice Barbie isn't completely wrong. And I don't know 236 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: what's going on with Corey Leandowski, but she wasn't willing 237 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: to deny it during a congressional testimony, saying to congress, well, 238 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: in other settings, I've denied. It is the way you avoidy. 239 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: You just simply say what you said someplace else. You 240 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 3: don't answer the question. So I do think she had 241 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 3: to go whether what she's been given is a soft 242 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: landing or simply the last step before she's completely kicked 243 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: to the curb. I'm not sure you know. This title 244 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: she got of envoy to the Shield of the America 245 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: sounds like a joke out of a Marvel movie. 246 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: But you know, Trump did have this big meeting this 247 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: morning in mar. 248 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: A Lago with most of the heads of state from 249 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: Latin America, with a lot of the important people from 250 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: the administration. Secretary of War Hexceth was there, Marco Rubio 251 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: is there. Howard Lutnick was there. So he's taking it seriously. 252 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: But what is it. It is about fighting narco terrorism, 253 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: it is about keeping China out of South America. I 254 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: don't know what Christy Neoms real role will be and 255 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: I don't know how good a job she'll do at it, 256 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: but she'll probably be good at going on TV and 257 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: being interviewed. 258 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I mean it sounds You're right, it 259 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: sounds like something out of a Marvel comic. We may 260 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: never hear from her in this in this administration. Again, 261 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: I think it was a nice way to say get 262 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: out of here, you know, and you know, just keep 263 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: your mouth shut until after twenty eight. But we'll see. 264 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: It could be something that it could be the international 265 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: forces coming together for some sort of movie. They could 266 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: film this thing, you know, they put some actors in 267 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: there and have her the lead actress, and you might 268 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,119 Speaker 2: have a movie there, Kennon. 269 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you might. I want to reach you. 270 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: One thing. 271 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: They signed a Drow charter this morning ed Bar a Lago, 272 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: and one of the things it said was that they 273 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: wanted to affirm the right of the peoples of our 274 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: hymisphere to chart their own destiny free from interfering, and 275 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: of course they did see from interference other than from 276 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: the United States. I just don't think Christy Noom has 277 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: the nuance, the subtlety, the diplomacy to be effective in 278 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: this role. 279 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: Probably another job for Marco Rubio. Hey, Ken, it's always 280 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: great catching up with you. Good luck out there with 281 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: the wins, and you know the high prices and your 282 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: governor in California and you and I will visit down 283 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: the road. 284 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: Thanks great, Thanks Kevin, a good day, godbye. 285 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: Guy speaks truth, he doesn't mince words, and he knows 286 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: of what he speaks. I agree with him. I think 287 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: it's going to be short work over there. They don't 288 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: have the weaponry. They're firing indiscriminately. Now they're firing on 289 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: their neighbors. The UAE is all hacked off because there 290 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: were drones that were flying over their airspace and they 291 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: had to be shot down. So I think it seems 292 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: to be a little bit of an air of desperation, 293 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: but you have to be careful because people who are 294 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: desperate do desperate things. We're at twelve twenty four on 295 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: this particular Saturday. We have UC basketball at one thirty 296 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: today as they close out the regular season in Texas 297 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: against TCU, and then it's onto the Big Twelve Tournament. 298 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: Some people think that the University of Cincinnati is back 299 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: in the discussion for a berth in the field of 300 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: sixty eight. Well, you can be in the discussion, but 301 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: you got business you got to take care of, and 302 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: that would start today. Twelve twenty four News Radio seven 303 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: hundred WLW twelve thirty seven. On this Saturday, ready though 304 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: it may be, we are leading into UC basketball. One 305 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: thirty today is the pregame show and two o'clock is 306 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: the tip as the Bearcats finish out their regular season 307 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: today at TCU and try to keep going and keep 308 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: their hopes for a chance to play in the Field 309 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: of sixty eight alive. I'll see a lot rides on today, 310 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: and of course the Big twelve Tournament, which is now 311 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 2: on the horizon, starting next week. All the tournaments, all 312 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: the conference tournaments by a large start next week. I 313 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 2: don't know, by the way, I mentioned that it was 314 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: twelve thirty seven, but as you and I both know, 315 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: it's five o'clock somewhere. There's one from you, one for me. 316 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: Oh that's that new beer from Little Miami, isn't it. 317 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: What's that called Obsfiscater something like that. It is great 318 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: top top again you sing at aj, I'll ship it. 319 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: I've just got time for one more round. Set them up, 320 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: my friend. Now he's going to lead you to believe. 321 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: And now I'll be gone and you can let some. 322 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: Other teams these leads. You believe Sterling is going to 323 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: be in today. But not today. No, no, we got 324 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: basketball following us at at one. Speaking of basketball, I 325 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: don't know if you stayed up to watch last nice 326 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: game between Miami and Ohio University. It was absolutely outstanding. 327 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: I was just an outstanding basketball game that went to 328 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: overtime before Miami pulled it out ten one o eight. 329 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: Ohio University had a chance to end that thirty game 330 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: win streak in regulation, but the kid, what's his name, 331 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: cobble Etski, he had a runner down the lane and 332 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: he just he just he held onto the ball too long. 333 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: He lost the ball momentarily at the top of the 334 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: key and then regroup got the ball, tried a running 335 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: one hander at the buzzer and it was just off 336 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: the iron or that streak would have come to an end. 337 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: But an overtime Miami outscores Ohio ten to eight. Ohio 338 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: had a chance to win it at the buzzer with 339 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 2: a three point shot and it was the same kid 340 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: as well, and it was off the back of the 341 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: rim and that's the final one ten one. Await Miami. 342 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: This I'm telling you it was. It was really entertaining. 343 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: It was one of the better games I've seen this year. 344 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: And Peter Souter was not good last night. He was 345 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: only two for eight from the field. He got into 346 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: foul trouble. He wound up with thirteen points on the night, 347 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: but ten of those or nine of those came from 348 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: the line. Elon Elmer was terrific on the boards, twelve rebounds. 349 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: Miami killed Ohio on the boards. They did it was. 350 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: It was particularly on the offensive boards. Just smack them around. 351 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: But this the kid's name is Pavoletski Jackson. Pavoletski twelve 352 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: of twenty five, three of six from three point line, 353 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: and ten of twelve from the free throw lot. He 354 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: winds up with thirty seven points. But Miami just had 355 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: better balance scoring. Elmer answered Pabolowski pretty much point for point. 356 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: He had thirty two and here's Miami thirty one and 357 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: zero beaten. Nobody wants to start talking now about how 358 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: they should be left out of the field of sixty eight. 359 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: And quite frankly, it seemed like every night since the 360 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: first of the year they were playing in Super Bowls. 361 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: Everybody wanted a piece of this team, and every team 362 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: went away empty handed. Here's Travis Steele after the game 363 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: on his radio show. 364 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 5: We're getting everybody's proper bowl everywhere. 365 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: And it's not just here. 366 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 5: It was Kit Stayed, it was The West Show. It's 367 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 5: been everywhere. And you know, our group has never flinched. 368 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 5: Terry like, we're built for this, man, We're built for this. 369 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 5: We have winners in that locker room. We've got really 370 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 5: good young men. But I'm proud of me. 371 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: You ought to be. We'll see what happens next. I 372 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: don't think they play their next game, and that would 373 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: be in the Mac Tournament in Cleveland. I don't think 374 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: they play again until next Thursday. But if they'll get 375 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: in and they will beat some teams. Talked about the 376 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: war in Iran and now entering its second week, and 377 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: the temerity of some when it comes to this. From 378 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: what we can tell, the Iranian navy is basically at 379 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: the bottom of the ocean. The leader of Iran and 380 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: forty nine of his closest advisor has just got blown 381 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: to Kingdom come. I believe that was on Sunday the 382 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: Sun is in there temporarily, but that guy his time 383 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: on Earth cannot be long. And it now is basically 384 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: how many more drones you got left and who's pushing 385 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 2: the button and then who do they install as the leader. 386 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: But I think this is pretty quick work. The problem 387 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: is the residual effect it has on our economy, and 388 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 2: it has. We've seen it already with gasoline prices. We 389 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: will see it at the market. We'll see it in 390 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: terms of getting goods and services shipped to us, and 391 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: we're going to see it quite frankly, I think in 392 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: things like housing prices and materials and whatnot. It's just 393 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: the way these things go. The markets are not responding 394 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: well to this. Wall Street had a bloody week this 395 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: week and that's probably going to continue for a while. 396 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: But nevertheless, there will be an end of this, and 397 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: there are very few that are thinking it's not going 398 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: to end soon, and very few even that that don't 399 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: think that this is going to end very well for 400 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: the United States and Israel and anybody else that's on 401 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: our side. Steve Cotton runs Cottonwealth Management. I've had Steve 402 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: on the show before and I wanted to get his 403 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: thoughts on the economic impact. You and me and everybody 404 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: else walking around just trying to live our lives and 405 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: buy things and try and get our lives kept on 406 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: the same trail. And it's kind enough to join us 407 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: here on this Saturday to talk about all of that. 408 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 2: And Steve, how are you on this glorious day? Hey, Kean? 409 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: Doing fine. 410 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 6: I've been following the Middle East situation very very closely, 411 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 6: as you would guess, the military situation, as well as 412 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 6: the energy picture and the jobs report that just came out. 413 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the market. The market is taking a 414 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: beating on this. It was kissing fifty thousand, maybe like 415 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: three four weeks ago. I know it's a tough crystal 416 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 2: ball to look through, but just in your opinion, how 417 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: long do you think it's going to take before this 418 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: thing gets to green again? 419 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 6: I think it will be shorter than people expect. I 420 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 6: think we will be pleasantly surprised. The Iranian conflict has 421 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 6: been in the mix coming for some time. The President 422 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 6: was marshaling forces in the area. The negotiations with Iran 423 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 6: were not being done in good faith by then, and 424 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 6: they finally figured out. Matter of fact, the Iranians boasted 425 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 6: in the last session, they boasted to Steve Whitkoff that 426 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 6: they had enrichment up to sixty percent ninety percent weapons grade. 427 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 6: They had it enriched up to sixty percent and had 428 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 6: enough potentially for eleven nuclear weapons. At that point, the 429 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 6: negotiations clearly were not going to go anywhere, and the 430 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 6: administration decided it was time to take other steps. The 431 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 6: oil price spikes were seeing are very predictable, but they 432 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 6: are in anticipation of interruption in shipping. They're in anticipation 433 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 6: of damaged tankers and things like that, but that has 434 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 6: not happened, and in fact, the Iranian Navy is now 435 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 6: at the bottom of the Persian Gulf. 436 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 2: The other thing I wonder about, too, is who's in charge. 437 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: I know that they took out the majority of the 438 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: quote unquote smart guys over there in one fell swoop. Now, 439 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: somebody has got to be telling those people that are 440 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: firing those drones off. Somebody has got to be giving 441 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 2: them orders. Is this a question in your opinion that 442 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: maybe people in the United States, in particular Rubio and 443 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: maybe even the President. I don't know who's in charge, 444 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: so it could be some road generals that are just 445 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: doing this right. 446 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 6: Well, the Iranians some time ago went to a more 447 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 6: decentralized methodology of command structure, and there is a little 448 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 6: bit more autonomy at the local Iranian IRGC level than 449 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 6: there used to be because they anticipated a tax on 450 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 6: the leadership. I think the Israelis are steadily going to 451 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 6: erode and destroy and eliminate whatever leadership materializes. And I 452 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 6: think as US forces are steadily degrading their military capabilities, 453 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 6: the Israelis are targeting the leadership of the Iranian Revolutionary 454 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 6: Guard Corps and the MOLAS, and I don't think much 455 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 6: of that is going to survive. I think you may, 456 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 6: in fact have some rogue IRGC units that are continuing 457 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 6: the war on their own and firing on targets increasingly 458 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 6: less effectively, so you'll continue to see a little bit 459 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 6: of chaos there, but they're steadily losing the ability to 460 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 6: take the fight to anybody, and I think that that 461 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 6: level of conflict will actually start to subside more quickly 462 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 6: than people realize. 463 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: There was some disturbing financial news that came out on Friday, 464 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: ninety two thousand jobs lost in the month of February. 465 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm just wondering where you think all of that news 466 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: from Friday fits into the grand economic status of this country. 467 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 6: Well, it is normal for the government statisticians and the 468 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 6: bureaus that practice stuff. They always do a recalibration, recalculation 469 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 6: thirty days sixty days after the initial stats come out, 470 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 6: and downward projections recalibrations are not unusual. I think what 471 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 6: we're seeing is some of the negative before the We're 472 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 6: seeing some adjustments in employment rates that are a little 473 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 6: bit surprising to some. I saw announced yesterday that Morgan 474 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 6: Stanley's going to be laying off something like twenty five 475 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 6: thousand people from their workforce. A lot of companies are 476 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 6: trying to write size given the uncertainty. But having said 477 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 6: all of that, let's not lose sight of the bigger picture. 478 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 6: We have just seen the reauthorization of the Trump twenty 479 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 6: seventeen tax cuts. We've seen expansion of the tax cuts, 480 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 6: no tax on tips, no tax on over time. We've 481 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 6: seen the addition of a six thousand dollars tax credit 482 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 6: for seniors on Social Security below a certain income level. 483 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 6: We've seen capital expenditure expensing in a single year that's 484 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 6: been approved as opposed to having to stretch it out 485 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 6: over thirty years. That's a big spur for business. The 486 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 6: Federal Reserve has continue to cut rates, and I think 487 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 6: in view of these jobs numbers, they are likely to 488 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 6: cut rates again in June or July. So when you 489 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 6: put all that. Oh and by the way, we passed 490 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 6: a one trillion dollar defense budget for the first time, 491 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 6: which has huge decade long ripple effects positive into the economy. 492 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 6: And so there is there are fourteen or fifteen different 493 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 6: factors at work leading to an expansion of the US 494 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 6: economy in the next five to ten years. So I 495 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 6: am cautiously bullish even despite these temporary, very short term 496 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 6: negative numbers. That is not the big picture by any means. 497 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: Well, chatting with Steve Cotton Cotton Wealth Management, and we're 498 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: talking about the general status of the economy given what's 499 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: going on in Iran. So you sound pretty bullish. I 500 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: think most people, at least what we're hearing from the 501 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: folks inside the administration that this conflict will be short 502 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: lived and that there will be some stability there what's 503 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: over and in the markets as well. But you know, 504 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: the American public gets a little itchy. Steve. Yeah, it's 505 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: great that we have put a cap on immigration in 506 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: this country. There's a change at the head of Homeland Security. 507 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: Mark Wayne Mullin, the Senator from Oklahoma, now will take over. 508 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: Christinome is out. But it's all about dollars and cents. 509 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: As you will know, dollars and cents is what voting 510 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: is all about. If people feel pretty good with their wallet, 511 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: they feel pretty good about where they are financially, chances 512 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: are they'll keep the current people in charge in charge. 513 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: This is critical for Trump to get this thing right 514 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 2: in quickly, and by quickly I mean certainly before the summer, 515 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: when everybody stops paying attention to everything. So this is 516 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: something that's got to happen quickly. 517 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 6: Right well, there are a couple of interesting things happening. 518 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 6: The IRS is sent out about forty five thousand IRS 519 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 6: re tax refunds already. There will more coming and I 520 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 6: think that's plus the plus the tax rates that will reauthorize. 521 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 6: I think people this year are going to start to 522 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 6: feel that they have a little bit more disposable income 523 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 6: than they thought they had. I think the business environment 524 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 6: is much more positive than it had been in the past, 525 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 6: certainly during the Biden years. I think there are a 526 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 6: lot of good things that are going to be happening, 527 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 6: even with some companies right sizing. I think automated artificial 528 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 6: intelligence is going to cost some jobs, but it's going 529 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 6: to create as a jobs. I think there's going to 530 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 6: be there are going to be many more positive factors 531 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 6: that play here. Oh and by the way, President Trump 532 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 6: has brought in or is in the process of bringing 533 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 6: in eighteen to nineteen trillion dollars of new foreign investment 534 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 6: into the United States. No administration has ever done that before. 535 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 6: So you add up all of these things together, and 536 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 6: I think this temporary different the market's temporary spike in 537 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 6: oil prices. This is this is the calm, This is 538 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 6: the storm before a more positive calm. And what this 539 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 6: is we call in our industry a buying opportunity. Good 540 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 6: quality companies are on sale. So for a long term 541 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 6: investor you know that wants to do build out the 542 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 6: worse size portfolio, this is an opportunity to put money 543 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 6: into the market at much lower levels and position for 544 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 6: much more positive games long term. Don't be discouraged about 545 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 6: these temporary numbers, these temporary oil spikes, This too shall pass. 546 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's what we hope, That's what we hope and 547 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: Steve Cotton knows of what he talks. He is he's 548 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: been a guest instructor at TCU, Texas Christian University. So 549 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: it's going to be a rough afternoon for Steve because 550 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: that's where the University of Cincinnati plays today. So sorry 551 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: about that, Steve, but for you inside today, we appreciiate 552 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: it and hopefully we can touch base down the road. 553 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,479 Speaker 6: So thank you, Ken and everybody. Just put on your 554 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 6: seat belt. But have they this trecial pass and we're 555 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 6: going to come through this just fine? 556 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: Well, I do think it's going to be a rocky ride, 557 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: there's no question about that. But for how long? I yeah, 558 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm looking at what's going on. I think unless you 559 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: just absolutely loathe Donald Trump and you think that this 560 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: is some sort of wag the dog moment, I just 561 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: honestly I think it's it ought to be short work 562 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: and so far, so good. We'll see. They got to 563 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: get somebody in charge when you have a rogue government, 564 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: and that's what they have right now because most of 565 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: these people that were in charge have been obliterated, so 566 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: you don't know who's actually over there giving the orders. 567 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: And as as Steve said, there has been a lot 568 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: of autonomy given at the battlefield level to these generals. 569 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: But we'll see at a certain point that economy is 570 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: going to collapse. We'll see indeed, if they have the 571 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 2: uprising in that country to overthrow or to assume some 572 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: sort of democracy. I have my doubts about that at 573 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: this point, but nevertheless, we'll see if that plays out, 574 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: and we'll see if the Curds come in. That's who 575 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 2: the United States wants, and want the Curds to come 576 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: in and take over that country. But they can't say, hey, 577 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: you know, we'd like the Curds to come in because 578 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 2: they got a problem with hungry and hungry do nutlike 579 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 2: the Curds. So anyway, on an onocost where twelve fifty 580 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: four on this Saturday straight ahead, it's all about oil, 581 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: and it's all about your car, and it's all about 582 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: affording gas and getting gas down to where it was 583 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: going before all of this. But why isn't oil cheaper 584 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: than what it was before this war broke out? My gosh, 585 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: we've got control of the Venezuelan oil fields right now. 586 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: Trump was drill baby, drill before he was elected. That's 587 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 2: what he campaigned on. So why should we be in 588 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: this shape because some timpot dictator just got blown to bits. 589 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: We'll get into that next. And why you're paying so 590 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 2: much at the pump? It is twelve to fifty five 591 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: news Radio seven hundred WLW. 592 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: Now your host can brew on news radio seven hundred WLW. 593 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 2: If you drive around town, you know what the price 594 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: of gasoline is. I'm you know, I can't go to 595 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 2: every single gas station in Cincinnati, northern Kentucky, or Indiana. 596 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: So bear with me as I throw these numbers out 597 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: because they may not be numbers that are germane to 598 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: where you live. But I see places in and around 599 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 2: Cincinnati where gas is still selling at less than three 600 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: dollars a gallon. But it's been creeping up, as we 601 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: know the last several days. In fact, in some areas 602 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: of the country it's well over three dollars and approaching 603 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 2: four dollars a gallon. And why it's because the price 604 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: of a barrel of oil has gone up. Right now, 605 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm looking here at the current price of a barrel 606 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 2: of oil, Brent crude is about ninety three dollars per barrel. 607 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: I think that's where it closed on Friday. West Texas 608 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: crued is about ninety one dollars a barrel. This is 609 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: up dramatically. I remember it wasn't all that long ago 610 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: we were talking about prices in the mid to upper 611 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 2: sixty dollars of a barrel. So that's why the price 612 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: of gasoline is going up, and why the price of 613 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: a barrel of oil is going up has a lot 614 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 2: to do with what's going on in the Middle East, 615 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: particularly in Iran. Iraq, for example, slash production by nearly 616 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: one and a half million barrels a day because it 617 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: can't load tankers. It's running out of storage space. And 618 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: we all know what's going on through the Straight of 619 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: Horn Moves. It's commercial ships are being attacked by Iran, 620 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: maybe some escort services by US ships at some point, 621 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: but not now. So that's why it would seem to 622 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: me that the price of oil is up, up, up, 623 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: But why is it up up up? Didn't we just 624 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: retake the oil fields in Venezuela. Didn't Donald Trump campaign 625 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 2: on drill, baby, drill? Why you know? So, Iran is 626 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 2: a political in political turmoil right now. But Iran seems 627 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 2: to be supplying basically Russia and China with gasoline. So 628 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: why is it up here in the United States standing 629 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 2: by somebody who knows he is the founder and CEO 630 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: of King Operating Corporation. In fact, Jay Young is not 631 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 2: only a good guest of this program, he is the 632 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 2: author of the book The Upside of Oil and Gas Investing. 633 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,959 Speaker 2: Be a pretty damn good time to invest in oil 634 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 2: because it looks like price of a barrel of oil 635 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 2: is going up, up, up, Jay Young, how are you 636 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 2: on this glorious Saturday. 637 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 7: Break in Great to hear your voice and be on 638 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 7: your program again. It's been it's been a while. 639 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 2: It's been a while. Forward to well listen, Yeah, me too. 640 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 2: So why I mean, We've got Maduro out of Venezuela 641 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: and we've got control, it would seem like, or some 642 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 2: better control of the oil output of that nation. And 643 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: we also were here a drill, baby drill all through 644 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. So why would what's going on in 645 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 2: Iran affect the price of a gallon of gasoline in 646 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: our country? 647 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good that's a good question, And a 648 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 7: lot of people are asking the same question. 649 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: It's like, what does that happen with me? Why? Why 650 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: do I have to go to the pump? You know, 651 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 2: I mean people. 652 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 7: Yesterday I said, I said, you know what I said, 653 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 7: if you were lazy this morning and didn't get up 654 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 7: and go to the gas pump before work, you're gonna 655 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 7: be paying more for gasoline on the way home. 656 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: And and and in fact, you're exactly right. 657 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 7: What you said earlier before I came on, is you 658 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 7: know it's a twenty thirty cent vump right there, I 659 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 7: mean five bucks, tim bucks out of your pocket right there, 660 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 7: just just because. 661 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: You know, prices went up so fast. 662 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 7: And when you have one hundred million barrels of oil 663 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 7: that the world needs every day, and twenty percent of 664 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 7: it goes through this the strait of her news is 665 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 7: what she said. It's only thirty three kilometers. And if 666 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 7: there's any delay, any disruption, we're going to see everybody 667 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 7: grabbing oil from everywhere. 668 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 2: And when you don't have it, you want it. 669 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 7: The majority of it comes through India, goes to India, China, Japan, 670 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 7: and they're grabbing our oil and we're trying to figure 671 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 7: out who, what, when where. And you know, the reason 672 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 7: why the price goes up and down is because of 673 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 7: supply and demand, and we're just the supply is not 674 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 7: there and it's being disrupted. 675 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: Okay, why can't the United States simply start drilling for 676 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: more oil in the premium basin or other place else, 677 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: anyplace else that has oil. At this point, I thought 678 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 2: we were supposed to be energy independent. 679 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And I'll tell you our refineries here. Just 680 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 7: the bottom line is the refineries. You know, we produce 681 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 7: thirteen million barrels a day here. We need pointy we 682 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 7: can import six million or so from Canada, you know. 683 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 2: So we can get it kind of get a good feel. 684 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 7: We got a little bit coming from Venezuela, not a lot, 685 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 7: but that oil is will mess up all our refineries 686 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 7: because it's so so heavy. And that's the reason is 687 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 7: because we don't produce the kind of refinery or oil 688 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 7: here that we need. We produce a lighter grade of oil, 689 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 7: and our refineries need that uglier oil and not as 690 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 7: ugly as Venezuela because you could literally walk on it 691 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 7: from what I hear you Portland ground you can walk 692 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 7: on it, but not as bad. 693 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: But Canadian oil is good and we're just not. It's 694 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 2: just not we're not set up for it. 695 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 7: And the regulations would have to really be let go. 696 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 7: Is I can't see that happening. Refineries. We need more refineries, 697 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 7: we need you know. And Biden thought demand was going 698 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 7: to go there, but it's not. It's gonna go up. Well, 699 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 7: we don't remember retinue. 700 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 4: To go up. 701 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 2: We haven't built a refinery in this country in over 702 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 2: fifty years. Nobody wants to build a refinery. I don't 703 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 2: want that in my backyard. Don't put that thing there. 704 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 2: But that's the cold, hard truth. There is not been 705 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: a refinery built in this country since the nineteen seventies, 706 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: which to me is staggering. I don't know why that's 707 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: not the case or why that's the case. But even 708 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: if we were to somehow start drill baby drill and 709 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: start bringing in oil, you know, seizing whatever oil that 710 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: is in Iran, once we take that country over, we 711 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: have a limitation as to what we can refine here, right, Yeah, 712 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 2: exactly exactly. 713 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 7: And cam what you said earlier, it's like, why don't 714 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 7: we just drill? 715 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 2: Baby drill? Gets rigged? 716 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 7: And that's what happened, you know, when truck came in. 717 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 7: But then all of a sudden the price goes down, 718 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 7: and when the prize goes down too far, all of 719 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 7: these people it's not we thirty percent less rigs in 720 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 7: the premium basin right now, thirty percent less because of 721 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 7: mergers and because of economics. You know, when you get 722 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 7: down to sixty dollars oil, you're afraid it's going to 723 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 7: continue going, so you take all of these rigs off 724 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 7: the market. And when you take rigs off the market, 725 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 7: that's going to create less barrels in the future. And 726 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 7: that's the reason why I've always said, hey, the price 727 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 7: is going to go up in the summertime at the 728 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 7: end of this year. Regardless, you know, invest in oil 729 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 7: in GUS now, because it's going to go up at 730 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 7: the summertime. Because we have a huge demand for oil. 731 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 7: We're not going to be producing as much because. 732 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: Rig counts down and the wells that are already online 733 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: decline rapidly. 734 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 7: So therefore we're going to see a lot less oil 735 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 7: comes summertime when we want to drive on vacations and 736 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 7: we're just not going to have the oil. So this 737 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 7: is kind of fast board or sped up if you will, 738 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 7: the reason why price of oil is going to go up. 739 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 2: Get my book. 740 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 7: I'll send you an autograph copy in I know you 741 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 7: have one, and i'd like to send people a copy 742 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 7: of my book because you need to seriously look at 743 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 7: investing in oil gas. If you're a credit investor and 744 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 7: you're interested, I'll send you an autograph copy of my book. 745 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 7: It's a great way to look at it, and it's 746 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 7: a great way to structure a program for people to 747 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 7: look at investing in on gas tax benefits, monthly income 748 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 7: scale it while you we we scal it while we're 749 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 7: drilling wells. We need to go back to drilling in 750 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 7: the United States, and we we started, you know, a 751 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 7: few months ago, thinking this is the time to drill 752 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 7: because it's a lot less money to drill for oil 753 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 7: gas and we could drill cheaper and enjoy the benefits 754 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 7: when prices go up in the future. But that's that's 755 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 7: coming now. So we I mean, it's a great time 756 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 7: to go and we've got to we got to get 757 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 7: after it, and we got to start. 758 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 2: We're offering a book. Where where do people Where can 759 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 2: they find Jay Young? And is his writing abilities? 760 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, It's Upside of Oil and Gas Investing is on 761 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 7: Amazon or Apple. But you go to my website if 762 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 7: you want an autograph cop and go to my website. 763 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 7: King Operating dot Com, King operating dot Com. And also 764 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 7: there's j R. Young j a y R like j R. Ewing, 765 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 7: but JR. Young I know, I don't know how that 766 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 7: worked out, but. 767 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 2: It's my real name. But with JR. 768 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 7: Young dot Com or King Operating dot Com, it's unfortunate. 769 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 7: It's great for Texas because of creating jobs and and 770 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 7: you know, getting back to drilling, which we need to 771 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 7: in the United States. It would be great for investors. 772 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 7: So everybody needs to everybody needs to look at it 773 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 7: and you know, seriously consider it because it is it's 774 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 7: time right now. 775 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you right now, Tommy Norris would never 776 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 2: have allowed this to happen. He would never have allowed 777 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: this to happen. That's my guy, Billy Bob Thornton on Landman. 778 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: He would never allow this to happen. I can tell 779 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 2: you that. 780 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 7: He said, prices need to be at seventy eight. 781 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 2: They don't need to go too high, they don't need 782 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 2: to go too low. Yeah, he said that. Yeah, Now 783 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 2: what are they ninety two ninety three dollars a barrel? 784 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 2: Look when this thing in Iran is over, and it 785 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 2: will be over because we're we're literally blowing up half 786 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 2: of the mullas every single day. When it's over there 787 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 2: and this conflict settles down, how long will it take 788 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 2: for a gallon of gasoline to get back to where 789 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 2: it was before all of this started, you know around 790 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 2: here in the greater Cincinnati area. I mean, there was 791 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 2: a time here not too long ago where we were 792 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 2: down close to two dollars a gallon to eighteen to 793 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 2: two nineteen. I'm just wondering how how quickly will that 794 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 2: happen again? 795 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 7: In your opinion, yeah, I think it'll come down if 796 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 7: they say, Okay, President Trump is happy and he's happy 797 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 7: that there's gonna be no you know, Iranian regime that's 798 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 7: gonna continue. I think it's gonna it won't take very 799 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 7: long at all, couple of days a week to get 800 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 7: back now. But I don't think it's gonna come back 801 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 7: to where you said, because I think there's a shortage. 802 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 7: There's gonna be a shortage of oil going into the 803 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 7: summertime and end of the year. So I just don't 804 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 7: I think it comes back down, but maybe didn't come 805 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 7: back down to two fifty to sixty matters where you are, 806 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 7: you know, parts of Oklahoma, parts of Texas, you know, 807 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 7: get a little bit more benefit because they're closer to 808 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 7: you know, places of refineries. But but I don't think 809 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 7: it goes way down. And the reason why is because 810 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 7: of my first three reasons. I mean, there's a demand 811 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 7: for oil. We're not drilling right now in the United States, 812 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 7: and and wells declined rapidly, you know. 813 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: So that's the reason. Those those three. 814 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 7: Reasons are the reason why oil is gonna stay up 815 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 7: this year. The fourth reason is if you know geopolitical, 816 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 7: which we see that today ninety one dollars a barrel. 817 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 2: And and I mean. 818 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 7: This, you know, under under Obama we saw one hundred 819 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 7: and twenty forty dollars oil. 820 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 2: I mean, so it's not like we've never been here before. 821 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 7: It's all like, right, I haven't been here, but you're right, 822 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 7: so anyway it'll. 823 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 2: Come down, but it won't come down that much yelling 824 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 2: in I think. 825 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 826 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: He's the founder and CEO of King Operating Corporation. His 827 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 2: book The Upside of Oil and Gas Investing available on 828 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 2: all of the places he just told you about a 829 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 2: few minutes ago. One of the things I fear, and 830 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 2: this is, you know, we've already established that we're paying 831 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 2: more at the pump and hopefully that it will start 832 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 2: to come back to where it was even a couple 833 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 2: of weeks ago before all of this stuff in Iran happened. 834 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 2: One of the things that the previous administration did jay 835 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: was tap into the reserve so they could artificially reduce 836 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 2: the price of a gallon of gasoline by just a 837 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,919 Speaker 2: few cents and say, well, look at that. The price 838 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 2: dropped three cents on a gallon. Well, yeah, it did 839 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 2: because you tapped into to the oil reserve that we 840 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 2: have in case all hell breaks, and that's the stuff 841 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 2: we need, you know, to fuel tanks and bombers and 842 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 2: other things that fly across the country and across the 843 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 2: world to try and defend the United States. So my 844 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 2: question to you is where is that oil reserve right now? 845 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 2: And why would anybody replenish it at three dollars and 846 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,760 Speaker 2: forty five three dollars and sixty five cents a gallon? 847 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 2: Where our reserve is down, is it not? 848 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 7: It's you know, Trump has been filling it back with 849 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 7: these cheaper prices. So we're we got about four hundred 850 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 7: million barrels, about four hundred million barrels in our strategic 851 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 7: reserve right now. But the thing is, if we need it, 852 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 7: we can only get like a million barrels a day 853 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 7: out of it. So it's not like we can we 854 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 7: need twenty million barrels a day. We need twenty million. 855 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 7: We're producing thirteen in the United States, so we have 856 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 7: a deficit of seven if everything went to you know, 857 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 7: say hell in the end basket or whatever. But if 858 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 7: we couldn't produce anything, we have twenty days worth of 859 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 7: strategic reserves. Twenty days twenty million is four hundred million. 860 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 7: That's about what we have four point thirty I think, 861 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 7: and and but the problem is we can't. We can 862 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 7: only release like a million a day. So you know, 863 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 7: it's like even if we even if we said, okay, 864 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 7: well we've got to you know, we got to go 865 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 7: back to our strategic reserves, or if you just can't 866 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 7: do it anymore like like we could before, or you 867 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 7: can't just go get twenty million barrels and you know, fill. 868 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 2: The coffers up in front of all the refineries. You can't. 869 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 2: You can't do that. 870 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 7: So it's sounds it's not the answer, but it was 871 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 7: the answer for Biden in that election. 872 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 2: I know that well that it was and it was, 873 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,240 Speaker 2: you know, it was nothing more than just a parlor 874 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 2: game with him. But nevertheless, Jay Young, I think we're 875 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 2: going to see these prices for a while. Thanks for 876 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 2: explaining why that is the case. I hope the hell 877 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 2: we get more refineries made so that when and if 878 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 2: we get back and get put production out of those 879 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 2: Venezuelan fields, we will have refineries that can handle that 880 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 2: thick muddy they call it dirty crude, and that will 881 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 2: up the situation as well, and we don't have to 882 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 2: be relying on these nutball clerics and tinpot dictators on 883 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 2: some of these countries that all they've got is oil, 884 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 2: you know, is John McCain said very famously about ten 885 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: years ago, what is Iran? Aron's nothing more than a 886 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 2: gas station, and that's what it's. That's what it's like 887 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 2: for a lot of these countries. But nevertheless, Jay Young, 888 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 2: it's good hearing your voice again, and good luck with 889 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 2: the book. And you know, if you bump into Tommy 890 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 2: Norris out there, tell them we said, Hi, okay. 891 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 7: I will I'll take a selfie and send it to you. 892 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 7: Kim sen attre states you having me on anything I 893 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 7: can do on n M for you guys, I'd love 894 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 7: to do it anytime, love it. I watched the watch 895 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 7: the markets religiously, and I'm always I've always got information. 896 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 2: I've always got information. So you stay well. Thanks love 897 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 2: jam every good weekend. Yes, sir, Founder and CEO, King 898 00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 2: Operating Corporation. I wonder if he could get a selfie 899 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 2: with Tommy Norris and then maybe set one up for me. 900 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 2: We could probably photoshop it where I could be in 901 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,760 Speaker 2: the picture and he could be out. Now, that'd be something. 902 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 2: It is one twenty four already on this particular Saturday, 903 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 2: and whereas we're looking ahead to UC basketball, you see 904 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 2: at TCU final game of the regular season. It's on 905 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 2: the horizon on seven hundred WLW