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Speaker 1: To night.

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Speaker 2: Michael Brown joins me here the former FEMA director talk.

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Speaker 1: Show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a

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Speaker 1: heck of a job.

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Speaker 2: The Weekend with Michael Brown. Hey broadcasting live from Denver, Colorado.

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Speaker 2: It's the Weekend with Michael Brown. Have you joined the

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Speaker 2: program today. It's good to be back in the saddle.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks off. Wow, haven't done two weeks off in ages.

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Speaker 2: It was glorious, But I'm glad to be back. Now.

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Speaker 2: You know the rules of engagement. Sure, I know you

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Speaker 2: haven't forgotten the rules of engagement because I tell you

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Speaker 2: I read text messages all the time, but I didn't

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Speaker 2: look at them for almost a week, maybe ten days.

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Speaker 2: So I look at him again this morning. And I

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Speaker 2: appreciate all of you that tuned in, listened to the

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Speaker 2: program last weekend, listened to the weekday program. I know

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Speaker 2: we everybody hates fill in hosts. I understand that I

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Speaker 2: want well, I get it. I totally get it. If

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Speaker 2: you want to send me a text message, the numbers

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Speaker 2: three three ones zero three three to three zero three

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Speaker 2: keyword Mike or Michael, tell me anything, ask me anything,

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Speaker 2: and then go follow follow me over on x formerly

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Speaker 2: Twitter and over there it's at Michael Brown USA, at

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Speaker 2: Michael Brown USA. So, of course, the thing that we

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Speaker 2: need to talk about first before we get to everything

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Speaker 2: else that happened over the past couple of weeks is

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Speaker 2: what happened last night. We I don't want to say invaded,

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Speaker 2: we snatched Nicholas Maduro out of Caracas. I get I

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Speaker 2: get up this morning, and I, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: turn anything on because it's Saturday morning, and I'm just getting,

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Speaker 2: you know, throwing some you know, stuff to go walk

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Speaker 2: the dogs. And I get in the car and it's

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Speaker 2: still on Fox News and I hear that Nicholas Maduro

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Speaker 2: is on his way to New York, and I'm like, why, why,

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Speaker 2: why is he on his way to New York? Why

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Speaker 2: have they reached a deal or what? No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: he's he's he's on a cargo plane, handcuff tied to

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Speaker 2: the bench, and they're taking him to New York for

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Speaker 2: a trial. He's been indicted, and it's it's simply amazing. Well,

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Speaker 2: get I'll get into the details, but my first thought

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Speaker 2: when I heard that we had captured Maduro was going

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Speaker 2: back to uh oh, what was it called? Operation Let

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Speaker 2: me think I get an Operation just Cause? Operation just

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Speaker 2: Cause was a it was a really large scale US invasion.

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Speaker 2: It was he was truly an invasion that completely shattered

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Speaker 2: the armed forces in Panama. And we did that under

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Speaker 2: George H. W. Bush uh to get Nicholas or not

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Speaker 2: Nicholas Mduro, to get uh Manuel Norwega. The Maduro operation,

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Speaker 2: by contrast, was in everything I'm reading a precision decays

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Speaker 2: petition strike, and they're framing it as a law enforcement

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Speaker 2: rate against the indicted narco terrorist. I want to give

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Speaker 2: you this background about Operation just Cause before we get

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Speaker 2: to what happened last night, because I think some perspective

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Speaker 2: is good because without the perspective, here is what you're

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Speaker 2: primarily going to hear from uh well, the left, Here's

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Speaker 2: here's here's Rachel. I'm sorry, I'm just laughing because every

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Speaker 2: time I look at it, I should have made a

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Speaker 2: New Year's resolution. But I don't make New Year's resolutions,

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Speaker 2: but I should have made a new Year's resolution that

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Speaker 2: I was not going to laugh at liberal women like

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Speaker 2: Rachel Maddow, But you know the how it happens to everybody.

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Speaker 2: It happened to me too, that he may have happened

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Speaker 2: to you. Somewhere, someone takes a photograph as you're blinking

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Speaker 2: and you look like you're drug because your eyelids are

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Speaker 2: face or whatever. That moment, that split second, that nanosecond

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Speaker 2: at this video clip of Rachel Maddow and I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: you've been following this all morning. What do you make

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Speaker 2: of this? A very very big development in a month

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Speaker 2: long effort against Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm really interested to hear what the

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Speaker 1: President has to say in his remarks from the White

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Speaker 1: House that are planned for just a little under an

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Speaker 1: hour from now. Ali, I feel like in your heart

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Speaker 1: now who have any idea why the United States liveness?

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Speaker 1: If this was about drug trafficking, then why did President

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Speaker 1: Trump just pardon the former president of Honduras who was

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Speaker 1: United States. If this was about something about the illegitimacy

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Speaker 1: in the hemisphere, including in the United States. He's invited

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Speaker 1: into the Oval office, and the president says that he's

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Speaker 1: looking forward to sending homegrown Americans to that president's essentially

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Speaker 2: So all of the purported.

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Speaker 1: Explanations for what's happened here don't stand up to logical scrutiny.

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Speaker 2: But they do. But you have to get out of

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Speaker 2: your bubble to understand that. And to get out of

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Speaker 2: your bubble, you have to understand you have to go

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Speaker 2: to President Monroe and the Monroe Doctrine, and you have

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Speaker 2: to go even beyond that and understand that this is

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Speaker 2: part of the America First strategy to first protect our

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Speaker 2: is why one reason why Trump's doing it, But there

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Speaker 2: are many reasons why Trump is doing this, and we'll

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Speaker 2: get into those in just a minute. But this is

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Speaker 2: have the same worldview that Donald Trump does. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not shocked by that. I'm not surprised by that. I

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Speaker 2: to deal because Trump's vision is that we understand there's

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Speaker 2: you know, Europe is going down the crap hole, and

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Speaker 2: the Russian Ukraine War is now a war of attrition.

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Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin is probably not going to do anything in

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Speaker 2: The Middle East. He understands that the Abraham Accords are

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Speaker 2: the seeds for really bringing long term stability in peace

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Speaker 2: to the Middle East, which is good for us economically,

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Speaker 2: which is good for our national security, and that if

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Speaker 2: the Iranian regime can eventually fall because of our blowing

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Speaker 2: that's good for that part of the country. So boom wambam,

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Speaker 2: thank you, ma'am. Go in blow up those new facilities

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Speaker 2: And you see what's going in Iran right now with

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Speaker 2: And you notice that as that goes on, everybody the

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Speaker 2: And I think he's probably with the after the meeting

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Speaker 2: And then let's go to Asia, which we'll do after

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Speaker 2: the break. It's the Weekend with Michael Brown. Text lines

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Speaker 2: Let's keep building our perspective about what happened last night.

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Speaker 2: I'll be right back. Welcome back to the Weekend with

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Speaker 2: Michael Brown. Glad to have you tuning in. It's good

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Speaker 2: to be back in the saddle again. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: the breaking news from overnight of the capture of Nicholas

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Speaker 2: Trump's worldview, his vision for America First and part of

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Speaker 2: America First. You can divide into both domestic and international perspectives.

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Speaker 2: And I want to go through the international perspective first,

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Speaker 2: because I think most Americans really understandable America First means

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Speaker 2: in terms of domestic policies, lower taxes, smaller government, less regulation,

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah, all of those things that you know,

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Speaker 2: conservatives generally advocate for. But many people miss the larger

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Speaker 2: worldview of what America First means, and they cannot they

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Speaker 2: cannot reconcile in their mind that if this is an

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Speaker 2: do what we did here? Well, let's go back and

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Speaker 2: let's let's keep keep dividing the world up. And I

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Speaker 2: And they also have got to get rid of their

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Speaker 2: And we know that all this green energy cannot provide

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Speaker 2: the roadmap for what they need to do. So that's Europe.

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Speaker 2: That's that part of the world. But now let's go

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Speaker 2: perhaps recognizing Somali land that we might talk about that

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Speaker 2: of which helped support us and our technological growth because

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Speaker 2: of all the rare earth minerals that they have. Plus

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Speaker 2: he's really tired of the killing of Christians throughout Africa.

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Speaker 2: Now let's go to the Middle East. In the Middle East,

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Speaker 2: he knew that when after October seventh, in the attack

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Speaker 2: had to do something to help Net and Yahoo clean

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Speaker 2: South American Central America is to us. Or you never

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Speaker 2: think about something that I had to think about a

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Speaker 2: lot when I was the undersecretary, and that is Mexico.

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Speaker 2: What happens if Mexico suddenly becomes a failed state, it

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Speaker 2: becomes a narco state, which I think is pretty much

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Speaker 2: is close to that now. Anyway, Well, that's bad for

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Speaker 2: us because that means we have to be extraordinarily vigilant

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Speaker 2: on the southern border to prevent another invasion of illegal aliens.

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Speaker 2: So if Mexico fails, that's bad for us. And remember

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Speaker 2: Mexico is most Americans think of Mexico is just a

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Speaker 2: great place to go on vacation. What they don't realize

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Speaker 2: is that Mexico is also natural resource rich. They have

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Speaker 2: a lot of things, including oil that we could also use.

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Speaker 2: So he's trying to and then South America the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Venezuelan particular oil, Cuba, Cuba, Russia, China all combined together

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Speaker 2: to essentially put our enemies ninety miles south of Key West,

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Speaker 2: ninety miles south from Monroe County, Florida. And what Trump

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Speaker 2: has done in Venezuela is probably, in my opinion, maybe

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Speaker 2: not tomorrow, but maybe even in a few months. Let's

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Speaker 2: see this is I would say by springtime, we might

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Speaker 2: see the communist regime. We might see Raul Castro, the

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Speaker 2: senile old fart, actually lose power in Cuba, and Cuba

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Speaker 2: suddenly becomes the Cuba that it was of the nineteen fifties.

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Speaker 2: And you'll see Marriott and Hyatt in the four seasons.

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Speaker 2: You'll see the cruise ships, you'll see all the tourism

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Speaker 2: industry just run into Cuba and it will turn into

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Speaker 2: a flourishing economy, and it will push out the Russians,

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Speaker 2: it'll push out the Chinese. So that gets us to Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: And before we get to Venezuela, let's go back to

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Speaker 2: where I started, which was with Operation just Cause. Operation

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Speaker 2: just Cause launched on December twentieth, nineteen eighty nine. What

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Speaker 2: was it that's next? I'll be right back, Hey, So

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Speaker 2: we came with Michael Brown. Thanks for tuning in. It's

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Speaker 2: good to be back in the saddle. Text line, of course,

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Speaker 2: has always open the number three three Wednesday Roll three.

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Speaker 2: Use the keyword Mike or Michael go follow me on

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Speaker 2: x formerly Twitter. It's at Michael Brown USA. So Operation

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Speaker 2: just Caused December twentieth, nineteen eighty nine. The objective of

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Speaker 2: that operation by President George HW. Bush Bush forty one

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Speaker 2: was removing General Manuel Noriego, but also because he was

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Speaker 2: under indictment for crimes. But it also had a subset

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Speaker 2: of purposes, one to protect the Panama Canal and two

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Speaker 2: to restore a US recognized democratic government in Panama. It

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Speaker 2: was at the time the largest and most complex US

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Speaker 2: combat operation since Vietnam. Roughly twenty four to twenty seven

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Speaker 2: thousand troops attacked multiple targets across Panama in just a

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Speaker 2: matter of hours. Now the state of goals safeguarding American

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Speaker 2: citizens in sure continued freedom of transit through the Panama Canal,

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Speaker 2: neutralizing the Panamanian Defense Forces, capturing Noriega, and installing President

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Speaker 2: elect Guerrimo and Darra, whose election Noriega had nullified. This

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Speaker 2: kind of sound familiar. If it does it, you're not

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Speaker 2: paying attention now. That operation quickly overwhelmed the Panamanian Defense Forces,

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Speaker 2: and it toppled Noriega's regime, and Indara was sworn in

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Speaker 2: on a US base as the new US back civilian president.

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Speaker 2: US Airborne Air Assault Special Ops all those units hit

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Speaker 2: more than two dozen targets on what you could call

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Speaker 2: a D day. It ranged from the defense headquarters and

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Speaker 2: their barracks, their airfields, and their comm centers. There was

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Speaker 2: fighting in urban neighborhoods, notably around Panama City, and it

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Speaker 2: really produced intense destruction and loss of life because American paratroopers,

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Speaker 2: armor and gunships actually engaged Panamanian forces in dense civilian areas. Now,

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Speaker 2: the estimates of the Panamanian casualties vary mainstream media sites

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Speaker 2: roughly two to three hundred Panamanian defense forces and more

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Speaker 2: than three inter civilians killed. Human rights groups and some

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Speaker 2: Panamanian sources argued that the civilian toll may have reached

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Speaker 2: into the high hundreds or even more. On our side,

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Speaker 2: twenty three US troops will report had killed hundreds wounded. Now, legally,

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Speaker 2: Washington justified or Bush justified, the administration justified the invasion

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Speaker 2: on grounds of protecting US nationals, defending treaty right, treaty

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Speaker 2: rights that we had with the canal, combating drug trafficking,

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Speaker 2: and responding to Noir yeer as a noment of elections. Now,

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Speaker 2: critics to see if this sounds from the here, Oh

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, that's a violation of international law. That's

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Speaker 2: a violation of Panamanian sovereignty. History repeats itself, and if

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Speaker 2: you stick around long enough, it not only rhymes, but

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, this is just a h this is

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Speaker 2: just another version. This is just a remake of Star

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Speaker 2: Wars one. This is Star Wars twenty two. So even

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Speaker 2: though Norrie and I want you to think here, here's

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Speaker 2: what I want you to just this. I described this

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Speaker 2: as I described the operation. I want you to think

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Speaker 2: about what you're hearing today about the operation in Venezuela,

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Speaker 2: because there are so many similarities and over time, if

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Speaker 2: we stick to our guns no pun intended, we can

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Speaker 2: have similar outcomes. Now overthrowing Manuel Noriega pimple faced Norjega.

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Speaker 2: That was the explicit goal, but the initial assault didn't

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Speaker 2: initially capture him. He evaded capture for days. He was

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Speaker 2: moving between safehouses. He then sought refuge. Some of you

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Speaker 2: ole farks might remember this. He ran to the Vatican

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Speaker 2: embassy in Panama City. So American forces surrounded the compound,

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Speaker 2: surrounded the embassy, subjected it to intense psychological operations like

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Speaker 2: loud music, and they finally took Noriega into custody of

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Speaker 2: on January three, nineteen ninety, when he finally just gave up.

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Speaker 2: He was flown to this country stood trial in drug trafficking, racketeering,

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Speaker 2: money laundering, and I think other charges. He had been

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Speaker 2: indicted back in nineteen eighty eight. This was in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and the courts ultimately upheld jurisdiction over the case,

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Speaker 2: despite his defense lawyers arguing about sovereignty, prisoner of war status,

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Speaker 2: the legality of a seizure, blah blah blah, blah blah.

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Speaker 2: In effect, Noriego was treated less as a head of

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Speaker 2: state with immunity and treated more as a criminal defendant

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Speaker 2: whose narcotics activities were having a direct effect in this country.

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Speaker 2: Hmm sounds familiar, doesn't it now. The manual operation obviously

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Speaker 2: differs in scale, but it mirrors the just cause operation

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Speaker 2: in its core intent. Remove a hostile lead. It's been

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Speaker 2: indicted in drug charges, physically, bring him into the United

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Speaker 2: States jurisdiction. He's on his way to New York. So

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Speaker 2: the US launches a large scale air missiless strike on Venezuela,

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Speaker 2: hits air defenses, command facilities, regime link sites. At the

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Speaker 2: time that they're doing that, which is to neutralize the military,

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Speaker 2: a special option unit reported to be Delta Force conducted

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Speaker 2: the raid that seized Maduro and his wife, Celia Flues.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I want you to know before we take

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Speaker 2: a break. The legal and the political foundation was set

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Speaker 2: in March of twenty twenty. Who was the president in

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Speaker 2: March of twenty oh yeah, Joe Biden. A US indictment

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Speaker 2: accusing Maduro of narco terrorism, cocaine trafficking in concert with

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Speaker 2: Columbia's FARK, which is a terrorists designated organization been for

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Speaker 2: years and leadership of the Cartel de la so less

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Speaker 2: another foreign terrast organization. Yes, started with Biden, not Trump.

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Speaker 2: Trump just finished it. I'll be right back