1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Mister new George Marks or well. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Roger Friedman, the great entertainment reporter. His website Showbiz for 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: one one, lots of stories, new stuff every day. Keep 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: checking it showbiz for one one dot com Roger Friedman, 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 2: how you doing. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm great, Good morning, and I can't believe it. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: March begins a Sunday, right or sooner or Monday? Yea hey, yeah, 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: I never asked you. Uh, we're talking about Jeffrey Epstein. 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: You must have known Epstein or met him. 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: No, no, I saw him once. I never met him. 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 4: I might have nodded at him, I never I know. 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: I didn't shake hands. 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: You do well. 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: I hate to break it to you. You're in the 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: Epstein files. I don't know if you know that. I'm 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: in there too. I know I but you're in there 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: because somebody, somebody wrote him. Peggy Single wrote him and said, 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: would you like to meet Roger Friedman? So it's nothing. 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: She said, come join us for dinner. 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: And I remember that dinner where I said to Peggy, 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: I don't think we should do that, and we didn't. 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: He never showed up. 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 4: I saw him once with a very tall, thin girl 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: with long brown hair and a dress that stopped at 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: her waist, and I had no idea how old she was. 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: I didn't think that she was under eighteen. I thought 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 4: she was probably eighteen or nineteen. You know, I didn't 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 4: know how old she was. He was a terrible guy. 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: I'm just I just put up a story on show, 30 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: his hororine one about him. He was a hypochondriac and 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: obsessed with cancer, and he thought that he had cancer, 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: and he got involved with this bizarre alternative cancer hospital 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: in California. 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: And if you go on. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 4: The website, I pulled out a lot of stuff from 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: the files talking about the bizarre agreement he signed with them. 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: I mean, he lived in a strange world. And he 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: had his finger in every pie. He had his finger 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: literally in every pie. I mean cancer. He was funding 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 4: cancer research. You know, he was involved in so many 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 4: different things that you can't believe. And it's amazing. He 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: was like a cancer that ran through the society. 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been reading the files a lot. He was 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: one of those guys who thought he was a political expert. 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: He didn't know what the hell he was talking about, 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: and he thought he was a medical expert, and he 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: didn't know what the ally was talking about but he 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: just keep writing chext to everybody, so they'd sit there 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: and nod and pretend they were listening to him. But 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 3: did you ever actually talk to me? You know, he 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: always dressed it kind of look trying to dress like 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 3: he was the Duke of Windsor. And then when he 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: talked to you, go, how are you? You know, with 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: that voice, it didn't work. 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: Now, the one time I saw him, he was wearing 56 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: just like, you know, like a workshirt kind of thing 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: and jeans. He wasn't really dressed up, but I didn't 58 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: really talk to him. I kind of looked at him, like, 59 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 4: what the hell are you doing here? And I knew 60 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: I didn't want anything to do with But this was 61 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: already late in the game. You know, let's say this 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 4: was twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen. And you know, as 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: I've been saying to people, remember Howard Rubinstein, of course, 64 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 4: the great PR guy. He was Jeffrey's PR person, and 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: he was also the person who represented the Post, the 66 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: New York Post, So Howard would block the Post from 67 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: running anything really bad about Epstein for years. So we 68 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: didn't really know in New York the extent of what 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: he was doing until it was too late. You know, 70 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: when he was doing when he was doing his crimes 71 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: in Palm Beach, Florida, the news never really traveled up here. 72 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: I mean it was sort of like it was a 73 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: vague or distant. It was in the Palm Beach Post. 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: But who cared and in he wasn't getting the bad 75 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: publicity he should have been getting. But that's because he 76 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: has so much help from Rubinstein keeping everything out of 77 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 4: the press. 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: Roger Fittman, let's talk about somebody else we knew, JFK Junior. 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 3: Everybody's talking about Hi now because of this new mini series. 80 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: Have you watched it? 81 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, it's it's terrible. It's really terrible. It's 82 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: not accurate, it's terrible, it's a it's exploitive. 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: I saw Lisa Depello, who worked for JFK. 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: At George Magazine, wrote something fun yesterday online I think 85 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: on her sub stack where she said she started watching 86 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: it started laughing. So at least she has a sense 87 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 4: of humor. But you know, it's a bizarre thing to 88 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 4: do to people, to do these movies where such a 89 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: tragic thing happened, and the story's been told over and 90 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: over and over. This was completely unnecessary. I have no 91 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: idea what the ratings are. Oh, but it was silly huge, 92 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: That's what I thought. 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: This thing is huge? 94 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: Is it huge? 95 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: It's huge. It's like the most popular streaming thing right now. 96 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: Everybody's talking, Oh wow. Yeah, I thought it was the 97 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: silliest thing I ever saw. And I knew John a 98 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah. 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: I never knew Carolyn, but I knew John a little 100 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: bit and he was a great guy. 101 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I knew him too. And this is not 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: accurate this show. You may love it, but it's not 103 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: the real story at all. Hey, it looks like Paramount 104 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: is going to take over Warner Brothers, Discovery, Netflix is 105 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: bout out, So what does that mean, Paramount whatever, It's 106 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: going to be the biggest. 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: Conglomerate in one family, yea, one family David and Larry Ellison. 108 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: The father is Larry, the son is David. 109 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: They're going to own HBO, CNN, CBS, They're going to 110 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: own all of this media. And you know, Larry Ellison, 111 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: the father is in business with Donald Trump, and the 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: son David Ellison has already said that he would make 113 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 4: it make CBS more conservative, and in doing that he's 114 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 4: taken to Tony Jakoppel's CBS Evening News, and the ratings 115 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: have collapsed. 116 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, collapsed. Viewers have left. 117 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: Well, that's whatever. You change the format, even in the 118 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: radio station, you lose all your audience. You've got to 119 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: go get a new one. But have you noticed all 120 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: three evening all three of them look alike. They're identity, 121 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: they're identical. Yeah, they're identical. And the correspondence on their 122 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: shows look like them too. 123 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: So it's just it's just. 124 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 4: Like an army of white guys with dark hair, all 125 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: telling the same story all night long. And I was 126 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 4: a big fan of Nora O'Donnell. I'd like to see 127 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 4: her come back somehow. But it's kind of crazy. And 128 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 4: I really like Lesterholt, but it's it's kind of crazy 129 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 4: what's happened. But you know what's happening is the news. 130 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 4: The audience for the news is shrinking anyway. Yeah, there's 131 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: not much audience for that, for the nighttime news in 132 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: the first place, because people are consuming a lot of 133 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: their okay, thank you, the people are consuming the news 134 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: on TikTok, on Instagram, in little clips. You know, it's 135 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: a much different world than we were used to where 136 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: you sat for half an hour and watched the news. 137 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: Now I watch Tony Dakoppel just because I don't like him, 138 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: and I watched the first fifteen minutes. After that, I 139 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: can't take anymore. 140 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: Hey, before we run out of time. We had this 141 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: terrible two blizzards snow. The weather was what happened? How 142 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: is Broadway affected and the movies and all of that by. 143 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: This, well, they were Saturday and Sunday was a terrible 144 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: day for movies in theater, and particularly Broadway. 145 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: Sunday. 146 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: You know, they canceled all the night time, all the 147 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: seven o'clock shows, and even it even went into Monday too, 148 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: where people didn't show up. 149 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: So Broadway took a big hit. 150 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: They were down I think two million dollars this past 151 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: week from the week before because of all of that. 152 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: And uh, and the movies took a hit too, although 153 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: the big movies like Crime one oh one and Goat, 154 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: they still they still pulled an audience. So the box 155 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: office wasn't too bad for movies, but it was. It's 156 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: bad for theater because you people are not going to 157 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 4: schlep into New York. It's a crawl over black ice. 158 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 4: You know and dirty snow to see a show, do 159 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? 160 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, restaurants were empty too. It was a huge economic 161 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: loss both those blizzards. 162 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: But three weeks a good night to see a show 163 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: that you couldn't get into if you lived in town 164 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: and you could take the subways of the show, you 165 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: could see something that was sold out previously. 166 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 167 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: Well, Roger Friedman, great stuff. Everybody. Check out his website 168 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 3: showbiz for one dot com. There's new stories all the time, 169 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: show biz for one one dot com. Roger Friedman, thanks 170 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: for being with us. Thank you all right, take care. Hey, 171 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: coming up, don't forget Buck Sexton, Klay Travis. They do 172 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: a great show every day at twelve noon. And Buck 173 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: has a great new book out. He's going to be 174 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: with us in the next hour. We'll tell you all 175 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: about it. Should get his new book. It's on Amazon. Still, 176 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: don't forget. At three o'clock, the most listened to radio 177 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: show in America, Sean Hannity got Jesse Kelly. At six, 178 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: you got Jimmy Fala every night, great show every night 179 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: at nine o'clock, nine to midnight every weeknight on seven 180 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: ten WR