1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: Let's hear a couple of sound bites from that opening monologue. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Up Here is Connor's story conversing with first quinn Us 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: and then jack Us. 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Whoa Quinn? Then Jack, You guys literally just won the Olympics. Congrats, okanks, 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: have we been so busy playing? We haven't had time 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: to see your show yet. It's about hockey, right kind of? 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: I got my teeth popped out in the finals. 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: Does that happen in your show? 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: Metaphorically? Whammy? 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: And then uh, Megan Keller and Hillary Knight chimed in. 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: Don't worry, we saw your show. Oh wow, Hillary, Meghan 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: is so cool that we're all here. 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: It was gonna be just us, but we thought we 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: didn't bite the guys too. 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: That's a great shot back a Trump's stupid non joke. 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, it was absolutely perfect, so well done 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: by everybody involved. 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: It was just considering all. 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: That had happened between the Golden goal and them appearing 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: on SNL. It was very well thought out and absolutely perfect. 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Eight three, three, four one two w XDX is the 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: number to call. We've been talking about the Penguins all day. 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Are you buying into how good they've been? Where they're 24 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: at in the standings. I hate the Jinks, but I'm 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: certainly starting to because they demolished demolished Vegas yesterday and 26 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: Vegas is thought to be a legitimate Stanley Cup contender, 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: but the Penguins beat them five nil, and the Penguins 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: have more points. Penguins had more points than Edmonton, who 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: were in the last two finals. Penguins had more points 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: than Florida, who won the last two Stanley Cops. A 31 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: lot is going good for the Penguins, and I keep 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: saying they're a playoff team, maybe a team that could 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: win around, but not yet a legitimate contender. 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm even wrong about that. 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna satiate your lust for Steelers football by talking 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: to Mike de Fabo of The Athletic at the bottom 37 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: of the hour about how crappy that Steelers report card was, 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: as voted on by the players and leaked through the 39 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: NFL Players Association. That's Mike the fable at the bottom 40 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: of the hour. One football development. George Pickens, as expected, 41 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: was franchised by Dallas, and that's a bad move, as 42 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: good as he is, because you don't win with guys 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: like George Pickens. Those of you who play fantasy football, 44 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: yeah you love George Pickens. Those of you who want 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: to collect football cards, Yeah you love George Pickens. You 46 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: don't win with players like George Pickens. And I know 47 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: that because the Steelers didn't win with Antonio Brown. And 48 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: you could say he went to Tampa and one yeah, 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: is like the number three receiver where he only could 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: say and do so much of the crap that made 51 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: him such a drag on what the Steelers were trying 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: to accomplish while he was here. And of course once 53 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: he won, he just went right back to be an 54 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: ab And I think he's on the run in Saudi 55 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: Arabian Hour, something like that. Simbacco News. Connor Griffin hit 56 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: another home run. He has three hits in spring training 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: and their all home runs. He's three for fourteen with 58 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: three home runs. Maybe he's Dave Kingman a clout or 59 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: an out. Let's hope he's well, No, Kingman hit almost 60 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: five hundred home runs, but let's hope. He's certainly a 61 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: better all around player than Kingman. He's got to start 62 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: the season with the Pirates. I see no upside to 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: starting and trip away for Connor Griffin. Besides the Pirates 64 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: fulfilling a cliched concept of development, Connor Griffin absolutely has 65 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: to start the season with the Bucks. Uh An ex 66 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: media guy Bozo the columnist. He was whining on Twitter 67 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: about how sad it is that nobody wants Andrew McCutcheon 68 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: even though he wants to play. Well, of course he 69 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: wants to play, wants the money, got nothing to do otherwise. 70 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: But the only phrase that matters in what Boso tweeted 71 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: is nobody wants him. Cotch is old and washed up 72 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: and he's not Clemente case friggin closed career, frigging over, 73 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: and he's not owed any better than that. 74 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: The Pirates got a lot out of Cutch. Cutch also 75 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: got a lot out the Pirates. 76 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: Some people trying to compare Cutch a situation to Balkans. 77 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: Not comparable. 78 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: I'll go into detail about that later today or tomorrow, 79 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: but here's an easy one if you're just going to 80 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: go all current events. Malkins appoint per game guy Cutch. 81 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: His stats last year were rotten. You could imagine they're 82 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: better than they are by putting him in the context 83 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: of the Pirates, who couldn't hit the ball or get 84 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: on base or do any of that ops stuff last year, 85 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: but just not good enough, not at that age and 86 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: not moving forward. Uh. I asked Tom this question earlier. 87 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you can chime in since Hurt, we know that 88 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: at home games you're sitting way down at the end 89 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: of the press box by himself. I know he hates 90 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: watching instead of playing, so I know he's miserable. Should 91 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: I go talk to Sid or would that annoy him 92 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: and pester him? 93 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: What do you think? 94 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Eight three to three four one two W I just 95 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: got a tweet that I'm giving cuts too much. You know, 96 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: Cutch wasn't hard done by in Pittsburgh at all, even 97 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. Cutch left here for more money and 98 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: to have a chance to win. That's another's him in Geno. 99 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: Gino has stayed all the way through with the Penguins. 100 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: He's seen the course. Kutch did not do that anyway. 101 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: Your response is to any or all of this dial 102 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: eight three three four one two WXDX. 103 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: This is the Mark Madden Show one O five to nine. 104 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: But he likes eight legal nowhere but men I E 105 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: and TX at one O five nine. 106 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm surprised I'm not getting more feedback on on Gino 107 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: and whether the Penguins should keep him, because I believe 108 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: all of you automatically think they should, and I think 109 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: they probably should and probably will. But I don't think 110 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: it's as cut and dry as no doubt you do. 111 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: I do know before the season they were definitely thinking 112 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: that this would be his last year, and I think 113 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Gino was thinking that too, But he came out of 114 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: the gates strong, has played well all season. 115 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: He's at over a point per game. 116 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: He's messed real well with Chinnakoff, and that is the 117 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: Penguins number one line right now. No fact between Chinnikoff 118 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: and Malkin. Malkin moving to wing and doing so very seamlessly, 119 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: but he's still thirty nine. Nothing he's doing changes the 120 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: fact that he's thirty nine. I would bring him back 121 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: based on what's happened, but I would wait till the 122 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: end of the season to decide because I can't if 123 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm the Penguins, and if they didn't bring him back, 124 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: I would understand that as well. 125 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: You can't let your dressing room turn into a museum. 126 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: I'd also like to talk about that basketball situation between 127 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: Silicily Academy and Jeanette. I think it was Whippyel two Wa, 128 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: a slickly academy, beat the Brakes off Genet in the final, 129 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: and swiftly adam Me is a bought and paid for 130 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: private school team. They brought in a bunch of ringers 131 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: that I don't know, some booster or alum or whatever 132 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, paid to bring in. And that sucks. But 133 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: that's the way the whippule is. When you don't separate 134 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: public and private in terms of athletic competition at the 135 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: scholastic level, that's just the way it's going to be. 136 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: It's that way with Central Catholic and football too. They 137 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: recruit from everywhere. They absolutely have an unfair advantage, but 138 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: there's lessons to be learned in high school sports beyond 139 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: winning and losing. And I think the Jeanette players, well, 140 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: there was an altercation in the handshake line. I'm assuming 141 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: the Jeanette players triggered that, but I don't know for sure. 142 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: They lost, though, and then afterwards their kids complained about 143 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: how unfair it was, and so did the coach. I'm 144 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: not even sure the coach's name. I just know an 145 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: adult should be setting a better example then to echo 146 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: whining and sore loser behavior after you get beat, after 147 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: you get beat in a game. I don't know if 148 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: Jeannette was favored to beat Siwickley Academy per se, but 149 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: I do know they were the number one seed in 150 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: the tournament, so if it was an upset, it wasn't egregiously. 151 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: So well, no, maybe it. 152 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean like when the number one seed gets beat, 153 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: it's an upset. So I don't think Jeanette covered itself 154 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: in glory with the way it behaved after losing. And 155 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: I covered high school sports for a long time, I've 156 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: seen a lot of tough losses. I've seen a lot 157 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: of situations where a private school had an unfair inch. 158 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: Let's go to Richie in Tennessee. 159 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 5: Richie he double n Would you bet the Pittsford Penguins 160 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 5: making the playoffs? And how much would you bet? 161 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: I would bet that they'd make the playoffs. I'd bet 162 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: what's my upper echelon. I would bet I bet as 163 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: much as I bet on a game I really like. 164 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: I'd bet two grand on it. 165 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: Oh nice, okay, I'll do that. 166 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 5: I'll do five hundred. 167 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: That's tough. That's because you have a lot less money 168 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: than me. 169 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: Yes, of course. 170 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 5: But I appreciate you talking about your mom passing because 171 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 5: I lost my mom to cancer. 172 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: So oh, well, my condolences to that. 173 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday was my mom's birthday, and I. 174 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry. 175 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 5: I'm sorry to hear that. 176 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: No, no, well, no, it's I celebrate her birthday. Thank you 177 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: for mentioning her and for the call. No, yesterday was 178 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: my mom's birthday. She would have been ninety one, which 179 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: she was never going to make and normal I not 180 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: too many people make ninety one. But aside from the 181 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: last three years when she had a really bad lung 182 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: illness not cancer, something called IPF, she had a really 183 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: good run. She enjoyed her life, and she did a 184 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: great job raising me and coaching speech and debate and 185 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: teaching at North Hills High School, where I am connected 186 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: to this day, having a scholarship fund in her name there. 187 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: In fact, I'll be going out to speak to the 188 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: kids there and solicit applications for her scholarship within a 189 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But yeah, I went on and visit 190 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: her grave yesterday out in aleg I shouldn't say where 191 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: it is, uh, somebody actually, one of my hecklers on 192 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: the fake Facebook page that somebody runs, not the guy 193 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: who runs it, but somebody posted a picture of her grave, 194 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: which I did not appreciate. But but then I went 195 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: to Monicello's on Babcock, where I used to take her 196 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: very many times. So no, I am sad on her birthday, 197 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,239 Speaker 1: but it's more celebration. 198 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: Let's go to Ryan. Ryan, you're on with double. 199 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 6: M h mark. 200 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 7: You gotta be thinking about the gensol for stamcos swap. 201 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 7: And if you were to tell me that they could 202 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 7: depends to dump Maulkin and get a ten million dollars 203 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 7: a year two way center and replacement, I sign up 204 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 7: for that. 205 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: Well, you're not dump You're not dumping Maulkin. You're you're 206 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: just you know. 207 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 8: Wow. 208 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's unfair to the Penguins to put it 209 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: in no terms though, I mean, nothing lasts forever, but yeah, 210 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying there is precedent, and I know 211 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: Stamkost got a long term deal with Nashville, but he 212 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: was also thirty three. I think the situations are comparable, 213 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: and the one thing for sure is comparable is that 214 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: you wouldn't be letting Malkin go in a vacuum you 215 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: would getting you would get somebody to replace them, and 216 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: you would let kindall grow into his spot and you 217 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: just are moving forward. And that would be my complaint 218 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: if they do retain Malkin, even though I would do it, 219 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: is that they would not be moving forward. Let's go 220 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: to Matt in the South Hills. Matt your own double. 221 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 6: M Hey Mark, how you doing? 222 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: What up? Hey? 223 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 9: Mark? 224 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 6: Step from Malkin for sign next year. I'm absolutely wanting 225 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 6: to sign it because I think with Chinakov he is 226 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 6: just starting to share what Chinikov has in him, and 227 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 6: I think the relation that they're making on the ice 228 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 6: is really starting to show. 229 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: What happens if Gino at forty starts to play worse, 230 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: what happens to Chinakoff. Then are you that convinced that 231 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: chinakov success is ignited by Gino? Or how much has 232 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: China coof rejuvenated Malkin. 233 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a combination of both. 234 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: I think it is too. 235 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: But the point I'm making is, you know, given the 236 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: age disparity between the two, there has to be a 237 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: future for Chinacough beyond Malcott at some point. 238 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I'm just hoping maybe with you know, another 239 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 6: year with Gino that so mature enough that he'll start 240 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 6: taking over. 241 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: He's no teenager, and he's taken over quite a bit now. 242 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: I think that he gonna be fine no matter who 243 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: he's on the line with. Moving forward, let's go to John. John, 244 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: you're on with Mark. 245 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: Good day, I said, good day. 246 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 10: I don't think that we should probably bring Malkin back. 247 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 10: I'm thinking another year older, he's just gonna get slower. 248 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 10: And then if he starts not producing as much as 249 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 10: he does this year, what do you do? You hurd 250 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 10: his feelings. I'm bumping down the line. 251 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, if they bring him back, I mean, you can't 252 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: bring him back just you know, by way of getting 253 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: him everything he wants in terms of playing time and 254 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: in terms of you know, power play everything. I mean, 255 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: but guys like that who have been that good that 256 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: long with the same team, as in Andrew mccutchin's case, 257 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: think they deserve more than they actually do. 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Next're gonna talk Steelers off season and 284 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: NFLPA report card with Mike de Fabo of The Athletic 285 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: one oh five niney. 286 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 10: X Every weekday at ten am is Travis starting your 287 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 10: workday commercial freight on one O five nine. 288 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, from the one oh five nine the X Weather. 289 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: This report he is sponsored by Discover. We're looking at 290 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: partly cloudy skys tonight and now the super genius Mark 291 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: Madden Cream comes to the top. I feel like I'm 292 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: just bubbling over. 293 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 9: You pants player on the air because I. 294 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: Who told you the exit one oh five nine. 295 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: Steelers did not grade out well according to their own 296 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: players on that NFLPA report card that got leaked. Joining 297 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: us now to talk a little black and gold football 298 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: from the Athletic Ke's Mike de Fabo. Mike, what is 299 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: the bottom line about the Steelers lossy report card? Is 300 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: it a bad organization or are the players with whiney 301 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: prima donnas. 302 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: I think it can be both. 303 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 12: Both things can be true at the same time. I mean, 304 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 12: if you give people an opportunity to complain, they're going 305 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 12: to complain. But in this instance, the biggest failing I guess, 306 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 12: I would say is the field, and I think that 307 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 12: the players have a legitimate an argument there where Miles 308 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 12: Killebrew his season ended and who knows for a guy 309 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 12: who was a glorified special teamer if it may have 310 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 12: ended his career and taken money. 311 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: Out of his pocket. 312 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 12: And Aaron Rodgers, the quarterback that they brought in, was 313 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 12: banging the drum and leading the charge when it came 314 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 12: to publicly bashing the field, and ultimately something had to 315 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 12: be done with it. 316 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: And that's really where. 317 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 12: The report card I think is valuable is in a 318 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 12: sense the Steelers were somewhat shamed into changing the field 319 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 12: surface and taking it more seriously, and now it's something 320 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 12: that they're going to do. But in other instances, you know, 321 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 12: with your remark that these guys are spoiled, I think 322 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 12: that something like the locker room to a degree, I 323 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 12: think that that's true. You know, they go to college 324 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 12: and when you're sixteen years old that before the prior generation, 325 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 12: before you could just simply hand player's fist full of money. 326 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 12: How are you going to impress a sixteen year old boy? 327 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 12: You're going to show him a big shiny locker with 328 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 12: an Xbox in it that cools your pads and you know, 329 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 12: all kinds of ridiculous things that you don't need to 330 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 12: play football. 331 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: So I think that like. 332 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 12: The locker room part of it, I don't know, I'm 333 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 12: less willing to see where the players are coming from 334 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 12: with some of that kind of stuff. 335 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: Well, no, I totally agree about the field a little 336 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: less about the locker room, except for the five stalls 337 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: in the toilet. That's not nearly enough. But I just 338 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: I take all the grades with a grain of salt. 339 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: Beyond the field, and part of the problem is there 340 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: their grounds crew is somebody's nephew or somebody's kid and inherited, 341 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: and they don't care about the field. They care about 342 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: the buddy system when it comes to having the right 343 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: people maintain it. But I think mostly there was a 344 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: lot of popularity contest involved, because how does Tomlin get 345 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: an A but the defensive coordinator gets to see but 346 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: Tomlin really ran the defense. Again, that tells me it's 347 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: a popularity contest. 348 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: Yep, popularity content. 349 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 12: To your point, there, the GM grades, the vikings, GM 350 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 12: who got fired got an A. Okay, he did not 351 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 12: do an A job. Now, I'm not saying that Omar 352 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 12: Khan didn't deserve his C minus, but I'm just saying 353 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 12: that these are arbitrary things. And I could see a 354 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 12: situation where, you know, a player is frustrated that Omar 355 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 12: Khan isn't giving him more money, isn't given him the 356 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 12: extension that he wanted. 357 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: And that's the reason that it contributes to. 358 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 12: A grade like that for a general manager. So again, 359 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 12: people are seeing this ingrading things based on how it 360 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 12: affects them personally, Like if they didn't get the playing 361 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 12: time that they wanted, if they didn't get the you 362 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 12: know anything, you know, that's what's going to contribute to 363 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 12: the grade that they. 364 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: Get, right, contract, whatever depth chart, it's a person it's 365 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: a popularity contest in guys voting also very personally, not 366 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: looking at great or good or a big picture, which 367 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: begs the question, Mike, if the organization's that bad, how 368 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: come none of the players ever want to leave? Was 369 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: that just Tomlin? And now will we see more turnover 370 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: moving forward? 371 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 12: Well, you know, I think you know, in the end, 372 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 12: players aren't going to sign or not sign a contract 373 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 12: with a football team because they care about the grass 374 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 12: or they care about the locker room, or they care about, 375 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 12: you know, whether they have a daycare or not for 376 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 12: their family members. They're going to care about how much 377 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 12: money are you giving me, and what's the opportunity that 378 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 12: I think to advance my career into play. And I 379 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 12: think that that's the way the Steelers look at it 380 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 12: is they feel like, you know, the locker room has 381 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 12: never won or lost them a game, so in their eyes, 382 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 12: they don't think that they need to invest in it now. So, 383 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 12: you know, I think that that's how the Steelers probably 384 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 12: look at this situation. 385 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 6: Uh. 386 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike de Fable of the Athletic here 387 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: on the Mark Madden Show. 388 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: Here's another one that amused me. 389 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Mike, the travel got an f what's specifically could have 390 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: been that bad about the travel? 391 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: It's a charter flight with all first class seats. 392 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: They weren't riding a bus or a train like a 393 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: major league Uh. Did the mimosas not get there in 394 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: a timely fashion? 395 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: How bad could it have been? 396 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't think that it was. 397 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 12: I don't think it was that bad. 398 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: I think that there. 399 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 12: Are some teams that maybe travel in a luxurious way 400 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 12: and the Steelers maybe did not. I mean, I think 401 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 12: the one example that could have contributed to it is. 402 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: When they went to Ireland. 403 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 12: You know, it looked like some of the like the 404 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 12: other team, the Vikings traveled I don't know what airline, 405 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 12: and they were more premium seats. But the Steelers had 406 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 12: an agreement with aer Lingus. Aer Lingus was a sponsor 407 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 12: for them, and so I mean I flew aer Lingus 408 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 12: as well, and air Lingus was not as modern of 409 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 12: an airline, so something like that. But I agree with 410 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 12: you Mark where I think that these players to a 411 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 12: degree are used to being pamper and used to extravagance 412 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 12: and used to people giving them things, and they in 413 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 12: a lot of ways don't have a concept of how 414 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 12: things actually work when you're not an NFL football player, 415 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 12: that people are giving you the preferential treatment. 416 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's famous stories. 417 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 12: Of Antonio Brown, you know, in other guys getting massages 418 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 12: and chiropractic treatment and thinking that it was for free 419 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 12: thinking because that they were an athlete, they deserve some 420 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 12: kind of a free handout from this person, not that 421 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 12: this was a person conducting the business and who was 422 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 12: providing the service, expecting compensation and return I've heard. I've 423 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 12: heard stories like that as well, so you know, some 424 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 12: of it I agree with you, Mark is a players 425 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 12: being not having a firm grasp on how the world 426 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 12: works when you're not an NFL football player. 427 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: Well, right, just entitlement ab was the king of that. 428 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: What is Aaron Rodgers go to commit if he is? 429 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: And are you getting kind of a wonky feeling about 430 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: how this ends? 431 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 12: Well, you know, from what I've heard, it sounds like 432 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 12: the Steelers are pretty confident that the answer is gonna 433 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 12: come in the next few weeks. And I found it 434 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 12: interesting that that's been kind of the term that's been 435 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 12: thrown around. You know, I think ideally they really would 436 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 12: prefer it, and it makes a lot more sense to 437 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 12: get that answer in the next couple of days, not 438 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 12: the next couple of weeks, because the next couple of 439 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 12: days means you've gotten the answer before free agency. 440 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 3: You. 441 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 12: Number one, if you get Rogers, which they think they're 442 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 12: going to, then you end up making moves that support 443 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 12: that decision. 444 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 3: Number Two, if you don't get Aaron. 445 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 12: Rodgers, figure out what the heck you're going to do 446 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 12: at the quarterback position when there aren't a lot of options, 447 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 12: and so I think they're going to get that answer 448 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 12: right around free agency, and everybody that I've talked to, 449 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 12: from you know, players all the way up to main 450 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 12: decision makers seem to be under the assumption that Aaron 451 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 12: Rodgers is going to come here. But it's kind of 452 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 12: one of those situations where they feel like they are 453 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 12: still working with Aaron Rodgers and until they actually get 454 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 12: that signature on the dotted line, no one wants to 455 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 12: speak in certain terms. 456 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: Did anything happen at the Combine that's of actual consequence 457 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: for the Steelers. 458 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: You know, they. 459 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 12: Interviewed I think the things you can take from the 460 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 12: Combine are they interviewed a boatload of wide receivers, and 461 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 12: they interviewed a ton of cornerbacks. They interviewed a lot 462 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 12: of defensive linemen. You know, they interviewed a fair number 463 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 12: and then then sprinkled in some offensive linemen. So I'm 464 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 12: not telling you anything that anyone who follows the Pittsburgh 465 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 12: Steelers doesn't know. They need a wide receiver, you know, 466 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 12: they need a corner opposite Jolly Porter Junior. They need, 467 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 12: you know, defensive linemen long term future to figure out 468 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 12: what life after cam Hayward is going to look like 469 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 12: and now, honestly, with this Broderick Jones injury, maybe they 470 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 12: need offensive. 471 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: Linemen more than it initially appeared. 472 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 12: And I think maybe that's the biggest thing that I 473 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 12: learned at the combine. You know, I know that he 474 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 12: had next surgery, but the Steelers had kind of downplayed 475 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 12: it initially and made it seem like, hey, this is 476 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 12: no big deal. Maybe he's going to come back by 477 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 12: the end of the season. They even called it a 478 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 12: stinger at first when they first described it. And now 479 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 12: it's like looking like there's no guarantee he's going to 480 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 12: be ready by training camp, and if he's not ready 481 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 12: by training camp, you might need to start thinking about 482 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 12: who your left tackle is week one of the football seasons. 483 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 12: So at first it seemed like the way the way. 484 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: He played this year might I'd be worried about who 485 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: my left tackle is period. 486 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 12: And that's a good point too, Mark, where it's not 487 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 12: like he's played like he was expected to as a 488 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 12: first round pick. So it's disappointing because he was supposed 489 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 12: to be the first piece of this turnover, of the 490 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 12: foundation of a team that was going to win on 491 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 12: the in the trenches with their offensive line. Now it's 492 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 12: looking in like, you know, that process has hit a 493 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 12: major roadblock, first because of performance, now because of injury. 494 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: And maybe if they had put him a left tackle 495 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: from the get go instead of super serving veteran respected 496 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: Dan Moore, Joe your it might have worked out better too. 497 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, And that to me, that speaks to being 498 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 12: a team that actually has a long term vision and 499 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 12: doesn't just try to play for the only year right. 500 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 3: In front of you. 501 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 12: You know, you should have taken a first round left 502 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 12: tackle and then we're playing him at left tackles. You know, 503 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 12: you can go kick rock stand more because this is 504 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 12: better for the long term future. 505 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: Of the football team. 506 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 12: Instead, they took an asset that you know, traded up 507 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 12: to acquire a broader Jones and completely stunted his development 508 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 12: and played him in a bizarre way. And that's what 509 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 12: those are the kind of things that have to change. 510 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 12: In a similar way of Roman Wilson, you know, last 511 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 12: year you shouldn't have been yeah, you were going to 512 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 12: have to work through and play through growing pains. You 513 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 12: should have done exactly that to this year he was 514 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 12: ready to contribute, or next year he's ready to contribute 515 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 12: and become a major part of the team. Instead, he's 516 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 12: now gone two years without playing, and who's that benefiting? 517 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 12: And I think those are the kind of things that 518 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 12: bringing back in Aaron Rodgers. You know, I could convince 519 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 12: myself that Aaron Rodgers is the best of bad decisions. 520 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 12: My problem with it is the ripple effect when you 521 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 12: bring in Markus about a scantling at the cost of 522 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 12: your young Roman Wilson playing time. You know, That's where 523 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 12: I think that the biggest sin is within bringing back 524 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 12: Aaron Rodgers is just the ripple effect of what the 525 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 12: subsequent decisions you make. 526 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: Mike, I couldn't have put it better. That's one reason 527 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: of several why I would not bring back Aaron Rodgers. 528 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: And I got a feeling it will repeat itself. I 529 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: think they need to get like three or four receivers, 530 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: but then they might get him, and Rodgers wants his 531 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: washed up gang to get out there. Scotty Miller too, 532 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: just just I think he has too much control over 533 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: the depth chart upon arrival. And I think there will 534 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: be even more of that with Mike McCarthy than there 535 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: was with Mike Tomlin. 536 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 12: Yep, absolutely, Mark, because Mike Tomlin did stand up to 537 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 12: Aaron Rodgers in those instances. Mike Tomlin was the boss 538 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 12: in that building. 539 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: He had always though. 540 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean you look at who got on the field, Mike. 541 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned mvs Adam Thielen and Scotty Miller. 542 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I can't play any of them 543 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: ahead of Roman Wilson. 544 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: I just can't. 545 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm I'm reading in the developmental more 546 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: than they would. 547 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 12: But still, yeah, no, there were cases. I guess what 548 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 12: I'm trying to say is tom when I think handled 549 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 12: Aaron and the way that he's going to want to 550 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 12: have his opinion heard better than I think a lot 551 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 12: of other coaches because it was Mike Tomlin who'd been 552 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 12: their nineteen seasons. 553 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: Now it's the dynamic. 554 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 12: I think it's flipped on its head where Aaron Rodgers 555 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 12: has been there longer than Mike McCarthy. And you know, 556 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 12: I think if Aaron Rodgers comes in, he's going to 557 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 12: have a considerable say in a lot of things that 558 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 12: happened with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And again, I think that 559 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 12: is another thing that concerns me about bringing him back 560 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 12: next year. But again I don't know what your alternative 561 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 12: is other than entering the Malik Willis sweep state, which 562 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 12: it doesn't seem like the Steelers are that interested in doing. 563 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 12: You know, I think this Ty Simpson situation, he would 564 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 12: be maybe your only quarterback you could consider in the 565 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 12: first round. But the way that I've heard things, you know, 566 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 12: he's only he only has fifteen college starts. The guys 567 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 12: who have fifteen college starts who have been drafting the 568 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 12: last ten years include Mitch Trubisky, Anthony Richardson, I mean 569 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 12: not necessarily uh In, Dwayne Haskins, Dwayne Haskins, Anthony Richardson, 570 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 12: and Mitch Trubisky not a great cast and support and 571 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 12: you know, to keep there. And so I think that 572 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 12: the playing time is going to signific The limited playing 573 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 12: time Black thereof is going to significantly factor into the Steelers' 574 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 12: evaluation of ty Simpson. 575 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: Why do I have the feeling that, even though they 576 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: need a bunch of receivers, that they're not going to 577 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: draft the receiver twenty one and mic go defense instead. 578 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 1: It just seems like their way, doesn't it. 579 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 12: You know, it's possible, and the only argument for that 580 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 12: would be that this wide receiver class is incredibly deep, 581 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 12: and so if you. 582 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: Were going to but they need more than one MIC they. 583 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 12: Need Yeah, they've only got one. They've got DK metcalfite 584 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 12: a couple questions. 585 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: He's really a number two. I don't care what his 586 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: salary says. I know what his stats say. I saw 587 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: him play. He's a number two, no better. 588 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, I would like to see the Steelers go for 589 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 12: wide receiver. I've projected it a couple of times in 590 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 12: these mock drafts, and really the question is it seems 591 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 12: like there's three guys at the top that people think 592 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 12: are like the three clear best guys, and there's a 593 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 12: little bit of a drop off. And so if you're 594 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 12: going wide receiver, do you make that aggressive to move 595 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 12: up and get one of the top three or do 596 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 12: you sit there at twenty one and get that next. 597 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: Round of guys. 598 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 12: But either way, there's probably you know, I could see six, 599 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 12: five or six wide receivers going in the first round, 600 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 12: and I think the Steelers should be entertaining the idea 601 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 12: of making that their first round pick, one way or another. 602 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: Mike has always great stuff. I appreciate the input. 603 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: Enjoy an off season that really doesn't exist, and we'll 604 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: talk soon. 605 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: I hope sounds good. Mark, I appreciate you having me. 606 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: That's Mike de Fabo. Check out his great work at 607 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: the Athletic. Now it's time to ask Mark Anything. Dial 608 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: now and ask Mark Anything. Eight three three four one 609 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: two w xdx. 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If it's gotta be clean, it's gotta 634 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 13: be Tidepods water content based on the leading Barkin liquid detergent. 635 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: There's a brand built on freedom and adventure. You know 636 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: the one jeep. Now take freedom further with a great time. 637 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm an asked mark anything eight three three four one 638 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: two WXDX. 639 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: You're hearing Journey. They play at PPG Paint Arena tonight. 640 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: I am going I like Journey, but they're like to me, 641 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: I only want to hear their hits like I want 642 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: to hear Don't Stop Believing, which you heard a bit 643 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: of right there. That's their most recognizable song, Wheeling the 644 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: sky Stone and Love. I love the Greg Rawley songs 645 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: from when they initially broke through, like just the same 646 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: way and feeling that way, but they don't play him 647 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: because he's not in the band no more and hasn't 648 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: been literally for what forty years or so, So I 649 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: get it. But those were great songs, Annie Hoodles, Dial 650 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: eight three, three, four one two WXTX and ask Mark anything? 651 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: Should Malkin be re signed for another year? And is 652 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: Eric Carlson the Penguins MVP at this point? I think 653 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: you can certainly make that argument, with all due respect 654 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: to Sidney Crosby. Also, what was your take on SNL 655 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: if you saw it Saturday night with the US brothers 656 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: in Megan Keller and Hillary Knight, all US hockey Olympic 657 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: gold medalists on the program, along with the star of 658 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: the Gay Hockey Show, Connor's Story. I thought it was 659 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: a great show, and I thought it was great when 660 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: all four of the Olympic gold medal hockey players were 661 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: out there, and I think they hit just the right 662 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: note that there's no problem between the two teams, and 663 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: all the nonsense that was created doesn't count. That day 664 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: cont and the reception they got from the people on 665 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: Saturday and in the arenas they played in since that matters. 666 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: That is what counts, and we got a war to 667 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: distract us now, So forget about hockey. 668 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: Leave hockey alone. Let's go to Doug and McCandless. Doug 669 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: your own with double M. 670 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 9: Hey, Mark, I've been listening to you for years, but 671 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 9: my fifteen year old daughter's been in the car the 672 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 9: last couple of weeks as I take her back and 673 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 9: forth to tennis, and she thinks you're mean to her 674 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 9: call to your callers. What should I tell her? 675 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 2: Uh, well, you've listened to me for how long. 676 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 3: Years? Well? 677 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 2: Why do you think I mean to my callers? 678 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 9: I don't think you're mean. This is my fifteen year 679 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 9: old daughter asking, well, I. 680 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 2: Mean, let me, let me just cut right to the chase. 681 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: If she's going to be any good at tennis, she 682 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: clearly has to develop more of a killer instinct than 683 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: less of a thin skin. 684 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 9: She likes that answer. She's smiling. 685 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 2: I can tell you for sure that Billy Jean King 686 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 2: would like this show. 687 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: I can tell you for sure that Chris Everett, e 688 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: von Goolagong, they would like this show because they were tough. 689 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 2: That's what made them great. 690 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 9: Excellent, Mark, I appreciate the feedback. 691 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: Thank you. 692 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: Let's go to Cosmo and the Sasai Cosmo. You're on 693 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: double m. 694 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: What I mean? 695 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: What I mean? 696 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think that we should bring in a 697 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 7: right winger and uh, do you think there's any chance 698 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 7: that we could bring in Yam or Yager? 699 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: Okay, now you thought you'd be funny, right and you 700 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: just aren't. So do we want to cut it short there? 701 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: Or do you want to keep making an ass of yourself? 702 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 3: No, it would be a great retirement sendoff. 703 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: And he see you took you took option B. Continue 704 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: to be an ass. Thank you. Let's go to Mike 705 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 2: in Lawrenceville. Mike ask Mark anything? 706 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 14: Hey, Mark, thanks for taking my call. I had just 707 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 14: had a quick que comment about the shootouts, and I'm 708 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 14: not too worried about them losing the shootouts because I'm 709 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 14: just thinking in the playoffs, they're not going to have 710 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 14: a shootout. 711 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: Well, I know that normal they have three on three overtime, 712 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: but you got to get to the playoffs or right 713 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: now they're one and eight shootouts and while they're you know, 714 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: sitting okay in a playoff spot, they still are far 715 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: from comfortable. 716 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: So so I mean, look at I'd bring in a shootout. 717 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: The one reason I'd bringing a shootout guy if one 718 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: were available, and I can't even suggest to who it 719 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: should be looking at the list of the top converters 720 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: in the shootout this year, because most of them are 721 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: Star forwards and therefore unavailable at least at a reasonable price. 722 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 1: So so, But but if they missed the playoffs, it'll 723 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: be because of lack of success in the shootouts as 724 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: not not a primary reason, but well yeah, maybe a 725 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: primary reason. 726 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: And certainly definitely a reason. Mark, thank you. Let's go 727 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 2: to John in the car. John, Askmark anything? 728 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, do you agree with you? 729 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 6: Steve Perry is the real voice of Journey and there'll 730 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 6: be no equal to him. 731 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: I think that I think that Eryl Pinata probably sounds 732 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: better now than Steve Perry does, and since I'm going 733 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: to see the show tonight, I would rather see Pineda. 734 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 7: I respectfully disagree. 735 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 2: Well, you're wrong. Have you ever heard Steve Perry sing lately? 736 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: For one thing? 737 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: He barely does, which tells you tail And I don't 738 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: think he should have to be in Journey if he 739 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: doesn't want, and I enjoy seeing. 740 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 2: Him if he was. 741 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: But I think you're disrespecting a guy who has done 742 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: a great job as the voice of Journey. 743 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: He's a third line winger compared to the feria in 744 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 2: the hall. Are you going tonight? 745 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 746 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 8: I am. 747 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: Well, then seriously, if you're going tonight you think he's 748 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: a third line winger, that makes you like the biggest 749 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: asshat that's called this show today. And imagine what kind 750 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: of ground take is taken in there, you idiot. Seriously, 751 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: you're calling a guy third line winger. How much did 752 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: you pay for the ticket? 753 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 2: Idiot? Let's go to Kennan Beaver, Connie Ken ask Mark. 754 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 7: Anything, well, mister Madden switching back to hockey a Gulf 755 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 7: tenant question. The young guy at Wilkesbury Murdershoff. Is he 756 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 7: ready to come up before the trade headline? 757 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: Well, I think if you traded Stuart Skinner to get 758 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: like a third line center and bring morishoff up, yes, 759 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: I think he's ready. It would be a risk, but 760 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: an educated one, and I think his upside higher than Skinner. 761 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think he's ready. 762 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: He's totally dominated the AHL. If he's not ready, he's sure, 763 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: we're doing a great job fooling everybody. 764 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 7: I think he's obviously the future. The problem is if 765 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 7: they can't trade one of. 766 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: The guys I got here. 767 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 7: Now they might just have to write it out the 768 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 7: next season. 769 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, if they don't trade Stuart Skinner, Morishoff will 770 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: finish the year in Wilkes. Yeah, barring injury, let's go 771 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: to the Egyptian Magician. Hell, all my friends. 772 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 8: Hey, Mark, I didn't know it was asthma. So I 773 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 8: guess I'm gonna say something. You say, you're right or wrong. 774 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 8: I really think it's a good job that the general 775 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 8: manager has done, put the pieces together. 776 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: And yeah, he's done a brilliant job. I knew he 777 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: would and I trust his vision implicitly. 778 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, And I thought as a coach, he has done 779 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 8: something excellent. And what I really like about this Penguins 780 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 8: is the fact that these first of all, they go 781 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 8: four lines that they each had, every one of them. 782 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 8: They come to battle and they do and they take 783 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 8: care of each other to have each other's back. And 784 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 8: I did not really like that Kolt to let him go, 785 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 8: but I know why they did it. But we are 786 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 8: running against time for our three stars. 787 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you can't. You can't. You can't do the 788 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: timetable based on them. 789 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 3: You can't. 790 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: They've done great. They have three Cups. Nobody appreciates what 791 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: they've done more than me. This isn't about making sure 792 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: they get last one last kick at the can. It's 793 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: about building organically to a championship level team, no matter 794 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: when that comes through. If it comes through with them 795 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: still here, I'd have no problem with that. But but 796 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: you can't base it on that. You can't rush this 797 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: the process, rush the process because of them. 798 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 8: So I hit fifty. 799 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: Not bad. Let's go to a talk back. 800 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 12: Super genius Eric and Toledo. 801 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 14: Hey, besides having absolutely no personality whatsoever and never showing 802 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 14: him motion, what made Mike Johnston such a god awful coach? 803 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: He just wasn't ready for this level. He was a junior, 804 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: a coach where he should have stayed. I think that's 805 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: where he is now. I think he did some Ahl 806 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: stuff too, but just wasn't ready, not least because the 807 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: Penguins were so packed with stars. Although they started off 808 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: very well with him as coach, and then the players 809 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: just kind of turned on him. 810 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: Let's go to Eric, Eric, what's up? 811 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 15: Hey, Mark, big fan? I'm also a big fan of Arsenal, 812 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,959 Speaker 15: and I know you're an intelligent fan of a rival team. 813 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 7: Just wondering what your thoughts are of them. 814 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 15: Are they legit? Are they pretenders? 815 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: And they're they're they're legit and they should win the 816 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: league that have to blow it, which they've certainly done before. 817 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: But I mean all they do is score off set 818 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: pieces and corners. They're not an entertaining team to watch. 819 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: They're not as creative as their talent dictates. If they win, Hey, 820 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: any way you want it, that's the way you need it, 821 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: to quote Journey, but but I'm not impressed by the 822 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: way they play football. 823 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 15: If that, if that resonates, And since you also watched 824 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 15: Liverpool win with Covid limming, is there any coincidence that 825 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 15: our stol might win a serious trophy and World War 826 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 15: three is also potentially gonna happen at the same time. 827 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about World War three, and I 828 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: care more about the English Premier League than I do that. 829 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: You know, we're always involved in some conflict of the other. 830 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: I don't mean to to tread lightly upon it bit 831 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: or make or crack wise, but I mean, you know, 832 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm sixty five of I mean, if I gave myself 833 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: headaches over stuff like that, it always have a headache 834 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: so I think when you win, you win, and the 835 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: backdrop doesn't matter. 836 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: Let's go to a talkback. Hey, double M just finished 837 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 2: a book about Jim Thorpe. 838 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 3: Is he the greatest athlete? 839 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 2: Or is that something that can't be defined. It's tough 840 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: to define. 841 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: I might go with Jesse Owens with all the gold 842 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: medals at the Nazi Olympics, not only proving his athleticism, 843 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: but in a hostile environment, just a really tension pack situation. 844 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's tough to define best athlete. 845 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,479 Speaker 2: You know, I would? I mean, what about what about 846 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 2: John Cena? 847 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: Okay, get more calls in eight three I'm kidding eight 848 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: three three four one two. 849 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 2: Just he was the first wrestler that came to mind.