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Speaker 2: They only use that language because they don't have good arguments.

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Speaker 2: It's so lazy individuals that call the ICE agents untrained,

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Speaker 3: You have Keith Ellison when he says the.

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Speaker 1: Deployment of thousands of armed masked DHS agents to Minnesota, they.

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Speaker 2: Only say armed and masked like they say an assault weapon.

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Speaker 3: It's just to go in fear monger.

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Speaker 2: And yet here is fear mongering about what they call

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Speaker 2: armed with water bottles and cell phones. Some fantastic comments

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Lyndahl Realty here on Twin City's

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Speaker 4: There's a great article in the Free Press called Minneapolis

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Speaker 4: that Renee Good and her wife and the other protesters

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Speaker 4: actions merit no consequences. You hold a phone in front

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Speaker 2: That's the great tragedy in all this. And thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, Tom, what a great point.

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Speaker 3: They do.

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Speaker 2: They feel like holding a phone in front of your faces,

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Speaker 2: That is the difference between liberals and conservatives. You're actually

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Speaker 3: You do. But I'm gonna help you out.

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Speaker 2: And provide you clarity to those videos and what you're

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Speaker 2: Those videos help the left. As I said last hour

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Speaker 2: dock ktok number one on your presets. But those videos

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Speaker 2: without the context perpetuates the left's false narratives to agitate

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Speaker 2: film again and orange pepper, spray, rinse, repeat. This is desperation.

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Speaker 2: This is a crumbling regime that's being exposed for just

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Speaker 3: What people are feeling with me, Yeah, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Here's Minneapolis man baby may or Mom Jean's Jacob Fry

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Speaker 3: We don't use the word invasion lightly.

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Speaker 5: What we are seeing is thousands, plural thousands of federal

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Speaker 2: Let me stop here. They're only having tremendous impact on

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Speaker 3: There's no other way to describe it other than evil.

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Speaker 6: John, don't forget about the teachers and the teachers union

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're letting the students and using them as

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Speaker 2: Wait a second, is this moron still thinking that this

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's see here the individuals being arrested by ICE.

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Speaker 2: Bill Walsh, Center of the American Experiment. He writes this,

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Speaker 3: We're way beyond that at this point in time, Jacob.

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Speaker 5: That's just the way this works in American society, and

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Speaker 7: Good thank you, mister mayor.

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Speaker 3: And let me say thank you, may Or her.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, well, I'm sitting here and just thinking

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Speaker 3: Have you heard about that problem?

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Speaker 11: It's very simple. For those on the left, it is

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Speaker 3: And to that point, listen to this good morning.

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Speaker 12: Did you know there are thirty three thousand detainers for

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Speaker 3: Yep, gotta love it, have a good day, and it

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Speaker 2: Six thousand plus, it's close to sixty eight hundred almost

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Speaker 3: None of what we're talking about right now.

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Speaker 2: The dynamic is exactly the same thing Ice was doing,

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Speaker 2: exactly the same thing. If you suddenly had a movement

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Speaker 3: Chaos. That's exactly what's happening with Ice right now.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you concerned about what you're seeing,

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Speaker 2: Truth of the matter is there has been reasonable suspicion.

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Speaker 2: It's the context that's left out of so many of

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Speaker 2: Ice can go listen, observers can go out and watch

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Speaker 3: The incident at Roosevelt never would.

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Speaker 2: So let me get to the instances, because you know what,

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Speaker 2: The Richfield Target incident, the individual was arrested for assaulting

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Speaker 7: At that store.

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Speaker 3: This didn't happen in Louisiana.

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Speaker 13: Let me give you a statistic here, Martha Well over

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Speaker 2: And it's not just their base of voters that the

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Speaker 3: It's also the students listen to this good morning.

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Speaker 2: And the next thing is, boy, the indoctrination is strong

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Speaker 2: It's just the worst of the worst of Democrat leadership,

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Speaker 15: We are seeing indiscriminate takings of people by this masked

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Speaker 15: And I think most Americans want to live in a

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Speaker 2: I had to breathe deep in my desire to respond

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Speaker 2: Former legislator here in Minnesota had a couple of comments

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Speaker 2: With regard to the students protesting against ice and who's

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Speaker 16: This came in, hey John top from Saint Paul. Again

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Speaker 16: are on their own to go to the capitol.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's really interesting because I remember years and

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Speaker 2: years ago where and not here in Minnesota, but in Arizona,

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Speaker 2: where Democrats were constantly trying to go and make an

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Speaker 2: excuse of responsibility relating to students when they're outside of school,

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Speaker 2: especially when it came to meals and such as always

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Speaker 2: like a this is a reoccurring theme. Governor Tim Wallas

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Speaker 2: isn't the first one to focus on food. So it's

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Speaker 2: funny to me that if they're washing their hands of

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Speaker 2: any responsibility of the students protesting, And again, apologies to

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Speaker 2: mad Deine We're going to get to him in just

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Speaker 2: a second, but I do want to sneak in these

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Speaker 2: talkbacks regarding to the comments from Congresswoman Kelly Morrison, who

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Speaker 2: said this yesterday on MS now.

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Speaker 15: And we are seeing indiscriminate takings of people by this

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Speaker 15: masked secret police that is ice. They are wanting to

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Speaker 15: create this secret police force that has no accountability and

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Speaker 15: no transparency. And I think the American public needs to

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Speaker 15: ask itself, is this the country that we want to

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Speaker 15: live in? We are a country of laws, and it's

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Speaker 15: what has distinguished us from the rest.

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Speaker 7: Of the world.

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Speaker 3: Did you just say that we are a nation of

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Speaker 3: the laws?

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Speaker 12: Be it Keith Elison assuing the federal government to enforce

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Speaker 12: the Can we make it make sense?

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Speaker 14: I have a good day, so let me get this

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Speaker 14: right job.

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Speaker 17: Kelly Morrison said that we are a country of laws.

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Speaker 14: Invited Biden, Mayorchis Harris, Obama.

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Speaker 3: Why did they all go ahead and.

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Speaker 18: Choose not to enforce laws that are on the books,

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Speaker 18: legit laws.

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Speaker 3: See, that's the thing with communists.

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Speaker 14: We're never going to have reprieve from communists.

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Speaker 3: We're just going to have to keep fighting. So let's

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Speaker 3: say they get used to it all right. One more

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Speaker 3: Good morning to Chile.

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Speaker 7: Brian from the North Branch have Representative Morrison.

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Speaker 18: I actually believe that the rule of law should be

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Speaker 18: helping Ice instead of calling them Nazis and trying to

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Speaker 18: get them hurd murdered on the job. It's amazing.

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Speaker 7: Just the hypocrisy is astounding. Great show, great podcast yesterday too,

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Speaker 7: a great day and listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm convinced that all of this is happening because of

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Speaker 2: what's taking place with exposure of the fraud here in

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Speaker 2: Minnesota and how Democrats just simply cannot hide from it anymore,

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Speaker 2: and so they're desperate to go and change the subject,

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Speaker 2: to focus on something else, and to invite as much

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Speaker 2: chaos as possible because they have no policies to run

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Speaker 2: on later this year. To that point, very pleased to

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show. And thank you so much Matt

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Speaker 2: Dean from the Center of the American Experiment American Experiment

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Speaker 2: dot org for being patient.

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Speaker 3: I greatly appreciate it.

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Speaker 17: Good morning, Good morning, sir, and it's always good to

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Speaker 17: hear come and sense responses to a stern lecture from

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Speaker 17: Kelly Morrison.

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Speaker 2: So happy to I know you ran you know briefly

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Speaker 2: for the Republican ticket for governor back in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: If you thought about we.

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Speaker 2: Have like what sixteen seventeen people that are running nowt

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Speaker 2: you thought about throwing your hat back into the ring.

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Speaker 17: I know, I think there's a lot of good choices already,

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Speaker 17: and they're all better than Tim Walls, So I think

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Speaker 17: we're in good shape.

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Speaker 3: I am curious.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're you're now working over it and providing

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Speaker 2: commentary over at to you know, center of the American experiment.

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Speaker 2: You did serve in office for a number of years

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Speaker 2: going back to twenty thirteen. Just you your take on

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Speaker 2: what we're experiencing right now comparatively speaking to back then.

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Speaker 2: I'm always interested to get the perspective of somebody who's

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Speaker 2: been involved in Minnesota politics far longer than I have.

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Speaker 17: Well, if you go back, actually to two thousand and

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Speaker 17: five was my first session with Tom Emmer and I

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Speaker 17: were in the same class coming in, so I've been

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Speaker 17: at this a while. And when we started, there was

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Speaker 17: Democrats on the other side of the aisle who could

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Speaker 17: be relied upon occasionally from time to time for common

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Speaker 17: sense and putting putting differences aside, and like closing up bills,

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Speaker 17: where I remember Governor Polenty at that time saying you'd

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Speaker 17: fight and fight and fight and say, all right, you guys,

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Speaker 17: take off your jerseys, figure it out, and get me

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Speaker 17: something to sign.

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Speaker 7: And that's what we did. You know, that was kind

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Speaker 7: of how it worked.

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Speaker 17: And now it's the particularly I'll be, you know, ungracious

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Speaker 17: to the Democrats, but their committee chairs don't know what's

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Speaker 17: in their bills. All they know is the talking points

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Speaker 17: that you get from people like Kelly Porson and they

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Speaker 17: don't know really what they're voting for, which is I

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Speaker 17: think the biggest difference is that it's not like forty

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Speaker 17: percent don't know, it's probably ninety. So that's I think

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Speaker 17: the scariest part of the change in the last I'd

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Speaker 17: say since COVID, there's been a mark change when they

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Speaker 17: said showing up was optional at the Capitol and actually

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Speaker 17: getting things done was optional. So that's the biggest change

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Speaker 17: that I've seen is that the Democrats have been co

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Speaker 17: opted by the far left and they really don't understand

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Speaker 17: the bills.

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Speaker 2: Man Dean, was that a so you know you mentioned

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Speaker 2: the change or over from COVID. Was that the catalyst

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Speaker 2: or had it been moving. Do you think that way

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Speaker 2: for a longer period of time? Is there a way,

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Speaker 2: you know, is there a quick answer to point to

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Speaker 2: one thing in particular that they're brought about, sort of

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Speaker 2: the diminishing return of your Democrat representative here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I think that being co opted by weirdos is

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Speaker 17: probably the number one reason. And if that was a

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Speaker 17: result of COVID or not, I don't know, or if

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Speaker 17: it just coincided with that. I think that that's what

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Speaker 17: you can see now is that their members are very,

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Speaker 17: very virulently like far left, not just left, and they

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Speaker 17: couldn't pass a test on the bills that they signed.

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Speaker 2: Let's get say this piece from Center of the American

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Speaker 2: experien me in American Experiment dot org. State legislative auditors

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Speaker 2: want to know why basic fraud controls were shut down?

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Speaker 2: What's the matter with Minnesota. So we talked about this

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Speaker 2: a bit last week, well actually not a bit, quite

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Speaker 2: a bit. The Minnesota Legislative Auditor the OLA released this

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Speaker 2: and I'm working off of your piece here. The shocking

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Speaker 2: new report examining the most mostly examines mostly ignored controls

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Speaker 2: over tax payer money handed out by the State's Behavioral

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Speaker 2: Health Administration. You go on to write in this, Matt,

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Speaker 2: the audit found that the Behavioral Health Administration did not

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Speaker 2: comply with the most requirements tested and did not have

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Speaker 2: adequate internal controls over grant funds.

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Speaker 3: It's not an isolated problem.

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Speaker 2: A culture has developed in the Walls Administration that prioritizes

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Speaker 2: getting money out the door to desired groups while pushing

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Speaker 2: those who get in the way. It's a lengthy piece.

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Speaker 2: I encourage everybody to go and check it out, but

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Speaker 2: I wanted to invite you on to kind of summarize

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Speaker 2: the most important aspect of what you covered in this piece.

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Speaker 2: And you start off specifically getting into how this is

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Speaker 2: not just about looking the other way relating to the

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Speaker 2: red flags being raised when it came to fraud.

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Speaker 3: Can you expand upon that a bit there, Matt Deane.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: So I think a lot of people think, well, it's

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Speaker 17: maybe it's always been like this in Minnesota. You know,

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Speaker 17: we're big hearted people and we're we're overly generous to

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Speaker 17: the point of being chumps. But we kind of go, oh,

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Speaker 17: we're a self righteous lot up here. We got a

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Speaker 17: bunch of you know, Norwegians and Swedes that you know

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Speaker 17: are semi communists, will you know, far from back from

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Speaker 17: the farming days. And we kind of we kind of

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Speaker 17: throw that in with the taxes and the bad weather

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Speaker 17: that were overly generous. And that's that's kind of why

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Speaker 17: this happened. And that's not really what's going on at all.

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Speaker 17: This is about organized crime. It's not about the generosity

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Speaker 17: of the taxpayers of Minnesota. And I tie that directly

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Speaker 17: to Tim Walls because I recalled when he started his

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Speaker 17: free lunch for kids program, which was actually a politically

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Speaker 17: very smart of him to do. He showed up and

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Speaker 17: he was handing out you know, hamburgers and jello squares

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Speaker 17: at a school and they said, well, hey, you're already

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Speaker 17: out of money in this in this program.

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Speaker 7: What's going on?

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Speaker 17: And he said, well, that's a good problem to have.

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Speaker 17: And he took that to you know, hector and Badger

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Speaker 17: whoever he was being interviewed by, that there was no

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Speaker 17: money in that program. And that really is the attitude

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Speaker 17: that clears the way for fraud. Where if you if

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Speaker 17: you raise your hand and you say all the money

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Speaker 17: has gone, or boy, this program now costs one hundred

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Speaker 17: million and three years ago it costs five million, don't

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Speaker 17: you and we don't have any more people. Don't you

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Speaker 17: think maybe we ought to look into it. Then you

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Speaker 17: are either a problem or a racist or both, and

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Speaker 17: whether you're within the agencies or outside. But this isn't

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Speaker 17: a problem that we had ten years ago. We ten

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Speaker 17: years ago we were overly generous. Now we are just

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Speaker 17: a target for fraudsters who can take money by the

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Speaker 17: bag fall and they're not going to see any consequences

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Speaker 17: for it. So that's the big change that I wanted

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Speaker 17: to highlight and to kind of go through program by program,

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Speaker 17: And it is a lengthy piece, but I want people

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Speaker 17: to be able to look at it and go, Okay,

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Speaker 17: this is a cultural thing that basically is somebody out

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Speaker 17: front of like it's kind of like the the you know,

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Speaker 17: I picture Tim Walls like out at Minneapolis Saint Paul

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Speaker 17: at Airport with those orange flashlights, you know, directing the

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Speaker 17: plane right like, you know, moving up to gate number

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Speaker 17: five for the fraudsters, because that's exactly what they're doing,

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Speaker 17: is they're clearing away for organized crime to commit fraud again.

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Speaker 7: People and the.

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Speaker 17: Biggest, the biggest victims of this are the people who

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Speaker 17: need this stuff, people with developmental disabilities, people who are

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Speaker 17: poor who actually need, people who you know, have profound

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Speaker 17: disabilities who rely on these programs to live.

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Speaker 7: Those are the people who are being hurt the most.

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Speaker 2: Talking with Matt Dean over at Center of the American

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Speaker 2: Experiment American Experiment dot org, I'm curious your thoughts on this,

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Speaker 2: and I've asked this question to a number of different people.

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Speaker 2: The thing that I can't wrap my head around is

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Speaker 2: it seems clear that none of this was sustainable, like

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Speaker 2: everything that you've mentioned in this piece, and you get

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Speaker 2: further in here and we can talk about it in

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Speaker 2: a moment, I think we have some time. But like

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Speaker 2: hiding fraud by making it untraceable, and maybe that's a

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Speaker 2: part of the answer to my question. Maybe they figured

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Speaker 2: that they did enough to skew the criticism, they can

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Speaker 2: get away with it.

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Speaker 3: But when I see all of what's.

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Speaker 2: Being now, it just seems as if it was inevitable

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Speaker 2: that this would end up getting exposed. And so with that,

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Speaker 2: it just has me scratching my head, going, you know,

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Speaker 2: what were they thinking. Did they just not expect that

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Speaker 2: it was going to get exposed? Did they anticipate that

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Speaker 2: perhaps they did make things untraceable, and there was a

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Speaker 2: media in the way in which they cover this that

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Speaker 2: shields them from any kind of scrutiny. Your thoughts, your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on that. Do you think that they thought it

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Speaker 2: was eventually going to be revealed, they would just continue

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Speaker 2: to have this fraud occur in perpetuity.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: It kind of reminds me of of a Sopranos episode

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Speaker 17: where Tony takes over a sporting goods store and he

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Speaker 17: basically just runs the thing into the ground with all

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Speaker 17: the merchandise and credit that he has, and and everybody

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Speaker 17: knows how that ends, right, And they think that they're

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Speaker 17: always going to get bailed out with more money, because

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Speaker 17: they always get bailed out with more money.

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Speaker 7: So there is there is a history of.

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Speaker 17: That in Minnesota, which these programs have a never ending

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Speaker 17: a supply of money supplied by the taxpayers of the

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Speaker 17: state of Minnesota. You bring up a great point about

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Speaker 17: media coverage, and I will give you credit because I

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Speaker 17: remember when the legislators were hearing from whistleblowers like people

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Speaker 17: like Nick Zirwass, people like Steve Dreshouse, people like Merk

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Speaker 17: Kansen who were going out to these places, and I

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Speaker 17: remember Mary saying, you know, why do you have black

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Speaker 17: plastic tied up, taped up all over your windows?

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Speaker 7: You know, and she's out there trying to get her

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Speaker 7: kid enrolled.

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Speaker 17: And there was no footprints in the snow of the playground,

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Speaker 17: there was no diapers in the trash bins, and the

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Speaker 17: you know, the whistleblowers were correct. And when these legislators

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Speaker 17: tried to bring it up, they got from from MPR

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Speaker 17: and the Star Tribune the same business they got from

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Speaker 17: the Walls Administration, and you, to your credit, put them

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Speaker 17: on and actually started some real you know, looks at

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Speaker 17: where this money is going.

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Speaker 7: So that's really I think a credit to you when.

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Speaker 2: It comes to others who are out there, you know,

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Speaker 2: doing sort of the on the street work of getting

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Speaker 2: this exposure. Nick Shirley specifically, I know that you highlight

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Speaker 2: him in here, and thank you for the kind.

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Speaker 3: Words there, Matt de and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned in the piece Nick Shirley in the Last

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Speaker 2: the Last Straw. We actually have a new clip from

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Speaker 2: David who was along with Nick Shirley and exposing the

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Speaker 2: Leering Center, and they're talking about even further fraud relating

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Speaker 2: to Somali translators. I'm going to share some audio with that,

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Speaker 2: and I guess they have another bombshell report that's supposed

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Speaker 2: to be even bigger than the Leering Center daycare tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Talk a little bit though about the impact of that

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Speaker 2: video on what we're talking about right now relating to

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Speaker 2: the fraud.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think if you look at what that impact had,

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Speaker 17: and I don't know how many hundreds of millions of

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Speaker 17: views it has had, but it's in hundreds of millions,

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Speaker 17: and everybody in the country is now making fun of Minnesota.

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Speaker 17: And there's one thing that the left in Minnesota does

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Speaker 17: not like. It's being made fun of. It's actually an

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Speaker 17: incredibly effective way of getting the truth because they do

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Speaker 17: not like that at all. That is actually causing real change,

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Speaker 17: and you see the governor stepping aside.

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Speaker 7: He's not going to be running again. That is just

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Speaker 7: I think one piece of the problems that Democrats have

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Speaker 7: in the state. But what you really expose is is

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Speaker 7: the compliant media. And in the piece, I bring up

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Speaker 7: Scott Stillman, who was the original whistleblower from the Department

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Speaker 7: of Human Services who said, hey, I'm tracking cash from

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Speaker 7: the childcare centers in Minnesota to places in Africa and

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Speaker 7: training camps, and he's a forensic auditor from the FBI.

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Speaker 17: I have a problem with that. He got investigated by

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Speaker 17: his boss and she hired an outside consulting group instead

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Speaker 17: of talking to the guy.

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Speaker 7: She never talked to him.

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Speaker 17: She hired an outside firm to basically smear him and

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Speaker 17: spent ninety thousand dollars on that. She got reassigned, kept

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Speaker 17: her job. Was never sanctioned for that, but just think

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Speaker 17: of what that did to all of the staff people

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Speaker 17: there saying if I find the wrong kind of fraud,

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Speaker 17: I'm going to get exposed and driven out. And the

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Speaker 17: compliant MPR published leaked documents from this guy leaked from

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Speaker 17: the administration to just absolutely comply, and so did the

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Speaker 17: Star Tribune. So so I think it really exposes our

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Speaker 17: media culture in Minnesota, just as much as it does

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Speaker 17: the Walls administration and their lack of controls like, oh,

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Speaker 17: for example, keeping receipts or any paperwork for supposed work done,

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Speaker 17: which the auditors have a problem with.

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Speaker 2: Matt Dean Americanexperiment dot Org the piece What's the matter

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Speaker 2: with Minnesota?

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Speaker 3: I encourage everybody to go there and check it out.

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Speaker 2: One last thing, Matt before I let you go, and

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Speaker 2: if you can, if it's possible to sort of do

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Speaker 2: like a thirty second answer on this Governor Tim Walls,

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Speaker 2: he's dropped out of his run for a third term.

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Speaker 2: We still don't have an announcement on who the candidate

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Speaker 2: will be. Nobody's really been talking about it over the

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Speaker 2: course of the past week since Walls dropped out early

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Speaker 2: last week, and that being the front runner to replace him.

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Speaker 2: Amy Klobashar, this is going to be really difficult for

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Speaker 2: whoever the Democrats picked, because I'm very much of the

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Speaker 2: opinion that, you know, Governor Tim Walls is a liability,

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Speaker 2: especially with everything happening right now, anybody who announces their

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Speaker 2: run for the governorship, I think it's going to go

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Speaker 2: right back to Walls. Do you support what Walls is

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Speaker 2: doing regarding the fraud regarding ice here in Minnesota? Do

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Speaker 2: you have a quick sort of you know, what are

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Speaker 2: your thoughts in prediction about what happens on the Democrat

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Speaker 2: side when it comes to the governor's race.

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Speaker 17: This is going to be very, very problematic for them

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Speaker 17: because if you look, they would not allow any hearings

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Speaker 17: on the OLA reports. The Legislative auditor reports that I

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Speaker 17: reference because it dealt with the Somali population. They said

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Speaker 17: that explicitly to the auditor. So they all have this

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Speaker 17: issue in the fraud issue. I tell you what, once

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Speaker 17: you start looking in it, it just gets.

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Speaker 7: Worse and worse.

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Speaker 17: So I think it's going to be a big problem

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Speaker 17: for anybody on the Democrat side. And I think even

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Speaker 17: if it's Amy klobash Ar, if they think.

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Speaker 7: That that's going to solve this problem, they're wrong.

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Speaker 2: Matt Dean, thank you so much for the time this morning,

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Speaker 2: and sorry I was running a little bit late there,

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Speaker 2: but it was always great to speak with you. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for coming on today.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for your great work.

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Speaker 16: Sir.

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Speaker 2: Coming up MPs finance chief who signed contracts with questionable

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Speaker 2: transportation companies placed on leave and Alph the news. We'll

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Speaker 2: also share with you the audio Nick Shirley is exposing

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Speaker 2: brand new fraud here in Minneapolis, an aspect of the

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Speaker 2: fraud that we have not heard about yet, and this

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Speaker 2: comment came into the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: We'll answer it on the other side.

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Speaker 2: An hour three of today's show here on Twin City's

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Speaker 2: News Talk AM eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.

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Speaker 18: rock band or racehorse.

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